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+ <B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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+ <I>Thu Jun 9 04:09:28 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 9 June 2011 03:15, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le jeudi 09 juin 2011 &#224; 02:40 +0300, Ahmad Samir a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, but I was talking about the actual submitting to */release, not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fixing the package itself. IIUC the submission rights will be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> restricted to the Sec team.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry to be picky, but there is no submit to */release, it is frozen.
+</I>
+I meant */updates, it's a typo.
+
+[..]
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+&gt;<i> And in my proposition, there is also no submit to */update, there is a
+</I>&gt;<i> move from */updates_testing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So for managing the submit to updates_testing and the whole process, I
+</I>&gt;<i> think it should be open to any packagers. It should be maintainers
+</I>&gt;<i> responsibility to do the update ( prepare, do a test build, check,
+</I>&gt;<i> submit ), even if secteam members could be proactive for that. But the
+</I>&gt;<i> process should not be restricted to them, or it will not scale ( and
+</I>&gt;<i> given we want to have bugfixes updates, it wouldn't make much sense to
+</I>&gt;<i> call the team like this ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+A balance between leaving it open for all, and not restricting it too
+much so as not to make updating take more time, is needed, I think.
+
+&gt;<i> Since ensuring that a update is a minimal change is (to me) a quality
+</I>&gt;<i> issue, I propose to add to the QA list of things to check before
+</I>&gt;<i> refusing a update :
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;it doesn't fullfill the requirement of minimal changes ( with
+</I>&gt;<i> exceptions&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But that requires QA people to have minimal packaging notions, which
+</I>&gt;<i> could be a problem :/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Again, nothing prevent people from the secteam to also be part of the QA
+</I>&gt;<i> team.
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Michael Scherer
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+Ahmad Samir
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