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And if +</I>><i> > > > > we ship something in update and in backports, we would have the +</I>><i> > > > > same packages with 2 different releases, and that doesn't seems a +</I>><i> > > > > good idea. +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > Worse, the backport would be preferred to the update :/ +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > You should have said all this right from the start rather than +</I>><i> > > > assuming that we would have all these elements in mind :) +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > Samuel +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > I suggest we add this point to tonight's meeting topics and that a +</I>><i> > > decision be taken then. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Then we would adapt the updates policy and the current packages in +</I>><i> > > updates_testing if the 0 release in updates is abandoned. We must also +</I>><i> > > decide if we continue to use subrels or not (using them could avoid +</I>><i> > > unneeded rebuilds in cauldron when there are packaging bugs in +</I>><i> > > updates). +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Best regards +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Samuel +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Ok, there will be no meeting tonight, so let's decide it on the ML. Was +</I>><i> > everyone convinced by misc's demonstration and do we agree to stop using +</I>><i> > the 0 release for updates and activate the +</I>><i> > Youri::Submit::Test::Precedence check on submit to prevent higher +</I>><i> > releases in mageia n than in mageia n+1 ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > And if yes do we use subrels for subsequent modifications of packages +</I>><i> > that are proper to the mageia 1 branch ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I vote yes for both questions. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Samuel +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Just to make things clear, contrarily as what was said in some of the +</I>><i> previous mails, I was told on IRC by misc and dmorgan that we should +</I>><i> always use subrels for updates. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So this means that, when pushing foo-2-1.mga2 from cauldron to 1/updates, +</I>><i> it will become foo-2-1.1.mga1 and not foo-2-1.mga1 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It means also that you will have to bump the release in cauldron in order +</I>><i> to be allowed to submit the update, in that case. But as misc said, it +</I>><i> should not happen very often : +</I>><i> - providing new versions as updates should remain an exception per updates +</I>><i> policy +</I>><i> - if the package in cauldron already has a release > 1, no need to bump it +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hope it's clear. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Best regards +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Samuel Verschelde +</I> +We have updates blocked by this release 0 issue, so we need a quick decision. +I propose that if tomorrow nobody reacted against the proposal, it will be +adopted. + +Best regards + +Samuel +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007080.html">[Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007086.html">[Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7083">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7083">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7083">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7083">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |