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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?</H1>
+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+ <I>Sat Jul 9 12:32:51 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>2011/7/9 andre999 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andr55 at laposte.net</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/7/8 Thorsten van Lil&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt;:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am 08.07.2011 10:42, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/7/8 James Kerr&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jim at jkerr82508.free-online.co.uk</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This thread has strayed far from the original question, which could be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> re-stated as:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Should tainted free software and tainted nonfree software be commingled
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> single tainted repository?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> How can tainted software be free software at the same time?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Because free is a matter of license, while tainted is a matter of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> patents.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> For example, the libdvdcss2 is free, as the the source-code is open (GPL)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but it touches the patent issue, so it's tainted.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, if you regard patents not as a criterium for free or non-free
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> then this division makes sense.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> From that point of view we need the same structure as PLF
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (tainted-free and tainted-non-free).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As well, the question of patent claims is a totally hypothetical problem, in
+</I>&gt;<i> almost every country -- including the USA -- for mirrors that carry distros
+</I>&gt;<i> like Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> (In the USA, the patent office used to systematically refuse patent claims
+</I>&gt;<i> on software. &#160;And patents are only examined for conflicting US patents
+</I>&gt;<i> before being registered. &#160;Not for the acceptability of the patent itself.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So basically, tainted is for the benefit of those who would like to support
+</I>&gt;<i> software patents.
+</I>
+You say that people who obey to the laws of their country are to blame
+for obeying these laws? That's ridiculous.
+The fact that nobody (in FOSS community) has been called to court yet
+does not mean that the related laws do not exist!
+The Debian paper (Romain linked to) has an answer to the reasons.
+
+Besides, tainted is not only about patents, it's also about software
+which is illegal in certain countries (like libdvdcss).
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