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All non-free goes into non-free +</I>>>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>>>><i> 2. Software which may be illegal in some countries (mostly because of +</I>>>>>>>><i> licensing) will go into tainted. +</I>>>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>>>><i> That's all. Clear and simple. +</I>>>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>>>><i> The question about GPL or other free licenses is not touched by +</I>>>>>>>><i> tainted. So, everything which does not have to go to tainted will go +</I>>>>>>>><i> to free (core) or non-free, depending on it's status. +</I>>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>>><i> Indeed. +</I>>>>>>><i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy#acceptable_licenses">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy#acceptable_licenses</A> +</I>>>>>>><i> says: +</I>>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>>><i> "The tainted section accepts software under a license that is might be +</I>>>>>>><i> free or open source and which cannot be redistributed publicly in +</I>>>>>>><i> certain areas in the world, or due to patents issues." +</I>>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>>><i> Reformulating it in an other, more explicit way maybe: +</I>>>>>>><i>  - "core" hosts 100% free software that can be redistributed anywhere +</I>>>>>>><i> (or almost, the world is a bit more complicated than that) +</I>>>>>>><i>  - "nonfree" hosts non-free software that can be redistributed +</I>>>>>>><i> anywhere (same) +</I>>>>>>><i>  - "tainted" hosts all the rest, be it free software or not. +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>><i> Third point is wrong, "a license that is might be free or open +</I>>>>>><i> source", which, I think, means only software with an open source +</I>>>>>><i> software License. +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> I understand this as: software that might be free or open source => +</I>>>>><i> can be not free or open source. "might" expressed the possibility, not +</I>>>>><i> the requirement. IOW, tainted does not discriminate free and non free +</I>>>>><i> software. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> It does differentiate; given that Anssi is the one who worked on the +</I>>>><i> tainted policy the most, and he doesn't think faac should be in +</I>>>><i> tainted, is enough to say that the wording in the wiki needs to +</I>>>><i> express our stance on the issue in a clearer way... +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I don't remember saying that. Any consistent solution is acceptable to +</I>>><i> me (including put-in-nonfree, put-in-tainted, put-in-nowhere). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> There was opposition (from e.g. misc) to having nonfree stuff in +</I>>><i> tainted, though. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This discussion reminds me of the recent Oracle claims of patent +</I>><i> infringement against Google, over Google's use of Java in Android. +</I>><i> These patents were all issued by the US patent office. +</I>><i> Google referred about 100 of these claims to the patent office for +</I>><i> evaluation. +</I>><i> The patent office invalidated all but 17. +</I>><i> And these 17 may yet be invalidated by the courts. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Google has not yet referred many other of the patent claims for examination +</I>><i> by the patent office. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So patent claims only _potentially_ result in legal problems. (As well as +</I>><i> only in a few countries.) +</I> +"potentially" and "only in a few countries" are not valid arguments - +especially for those who live in such countries. + +><i> Which makes me think that the free/non-free distinction is probably much +</I>><i> more important. +</I> +I must admit I do not understand the cause of this discussion, maybe I +am thinking in too simple ways. Free goes in core, non-free goes in +non-free. If a non-free software has a restrictive license it goes in +tainted. A free software can not have a restrictive license, if it has +it is not free and goes in tainted. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006430.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006437.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6432">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6432">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6432">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6432">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |