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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?</H1>
+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+ <I>Wed Jul 6 17:57:02 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>2011/7/6 Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On 6 July 2011 14:27, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 14:04, Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 6 July 2011 13:58, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:10, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If we go back to the beginning of the discussion where to put such
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packages which were in PLF we made a clear difference:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1. All non-free goes into non-free
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2. Software which may be illegal in some countries (mostly because of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> licensing) will go into tainted.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That's all. Clear and simple.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The question about GPL or other free licenses is not touched by
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tainted. So, everything which does not have to go to tainted will go
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to free (core) or non-free, depending on it's status.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Indeed. <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy#acceptable_licenses">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy#acceptable_licenses</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> says:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;The tainted section accepts software under a license that is might be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> free or open source and which cannot be redistributed publicly in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> certain areas in the world, or due to patents issues.&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Reformulating it in an other, more explicit way maybe:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- &quot;core&quot; hosts 100% free software that can be redistributed anywhere
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (or almost, the world is a bit more complicated than that)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- &quot;nonfree&quot; hosts non-free software that can be redistributed anywhere (same)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- &quot;tainted&quot; hosts all the rest, be it free software or not.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Third point is wrong, &quot;a license that is might be free or open
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> source&quot;, which, I think, means only software with an open source
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> software License.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I understand this as: software that might be free or open source =&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> can be not free or open source. &quot;might&quot; expressed the possibility, not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the requirement. IOW, tainted does not discriminate free and non free
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> software.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It does differentiate; given that Anssi is the one who worked on the
+</I>&gt;<i> tainted policy the most, and he doesn't think faac should be in
+</I>&gt;<i> tainted, is enough to say that the wording in the wiki needs to
+</I>&gt;<i> express our stance on the issue in a clearer way...
+</I>
+The point we made when discussing these issues was:
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+ - to provide a section where people who only want free software can
+have all free software (core)
+ - to provide a section where people who want non-free software
+(mainly proprietary drivers, plugins, codecs) can have their drivers,
+plugins, whatever (non-free)
+ - to provide a section where we can put software which may be illegal
+to use in certain countries (some codecs, libdvdcss2, etc.), so users
+and mirror maintainers in such countries can decide for themselves to
+use this or not (tainted)
+
+That's all. Now saying that faac should not be in tainted, where
+should it go if not in tainted? How does faac differ to other software
+which is in tainted? The only reason it should not be in tainted would
+be that we can not distribute it at all.
+This brings us back to the core of the discussion what kind of
+software Mageia should or should not provide.
+
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+wobo
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