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I'm thinking about those computer adepts who +</I>><i> >> have spent 10-15 years with the Ctrl-Alt-F1 combo, is it so easy to +</I>><i> >> change a grown habit which is like the "Red = Stop!" paradigma? I'm +</I>><i> >> thinking also about all those who spend time with different distros, +</I>><i> >> having to change one of the most common procedures just for Mageia. +</I>><i> >> I'm thinking of rather new Linuxers who follow advice in documentation +</I>><i> >> - ALL docs on the net talk about Ctrl-Alt-F1, all generic books like +</I>><i> >> Linux in a Nutshell or others talk about Ctrl-Alt-F1. +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> So, my question is whether a second's flickering during startup really +</I>><i> >> justifies such a strong change? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Well, maybe you haven't heard of the related problems yet: +</I>><i> > <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata#Xserver_crashes">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata#Xserver_crashes</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of course I read that part of the Errata but did not relate it to the +</I>><i> matter of this thread - how could I as a non-developer? The relation +</I>><i> has not been mentioned in the errata. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As I wrote in my first mail I am not really against this change if +</I>><i> there is a reason. There seems to be a reason (as you say), so it's +</I>><i> ok. But still I think all open questions (especially the one about the +</I>><i> situation of a crashing or failing x server) need to be addressed +</I>><i> before the change is made in cauldron to be tested by a broader +</I>><i> userbase. And I still think it needs to be announced all over the +</I>><i> place when the change will be implemented. +</I> +it does need to be announced all over the place. + +><i> About the question how hard it is to press another key: not hard. But +</I>><i> the Ctrl-Alt-F1 has been a standard in ALL distributions and ALL +</I>><i> documentations (even in the generic books about "Learning Linux"), a +</I>><i> standard like the SAA menue standard ("File" on the left, "Help" on +</I>><i> the right) or the "F1 opens Help" standard. Therefore changing this is +</I>><i> a bit more than usual changes between versions. +</I> +well, that may be true, but not anymore on all distros and during installation +times not anymore as well... + +if we get such a dynamic scheme, that would be nice. but that will likely only +work on systemd... what about sysvinit? it was still supposed to be the +default for mga2 ... + +but we can test, and work on that... if it doesn't work with sysvinit +properly, i still vote for returning to F7 ... but we can change that for beta +release... +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="010561.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: X11 now starts on tty1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="010566.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: X11 now starts on tty1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#10563">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#10563">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#10563">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#10563">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |