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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+ <I>Sat Dec 17 11:58:31 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>2011/12/17 Florian Hubold &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Am 17.12.2011 11:26, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/12/17 Sander Lepik &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">sander.lepik at eesti.ee</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 17.12.2011 12:10, Wolfgang Bornath kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I really beg to think the whole matter over again, at least until it is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mature enough to be implemented in cauldron for practical test.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> People will get used to it rather fast.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> May be yes, may be no. I'm thinking about those computer adepts who
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have spent 10-15 years with the Ctrl-Alt-F1 combo, is it so easy to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> change a grown habit which is like the &quot;Red = Stop!&quot; paradigma? I'm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> thinking also about all those who spend time with different distros,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> having to change one of the most common procedures just for Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm thinking of rather new Linuxers who follow advice in documentation
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - ALL docs on the net talk about Ctrl-Alt-F1, all generic books like
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Linux in a Nutshell or others talk about Ctrl-Alt-F1.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So, my question is whether a second's flickering during startup really
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> justifies such a strong change?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, maybe you haven't heard of the related problems yet:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata#Xserver_crashes">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata#Xserver_crashes</A>
+</I>
+Of course I read that part of the Errata but did not relate it to the
+matter of this thread - how could I as a non-developer? The relation
+has not been mentioned in the errata.
+
+As I wrote in my first mail I am not really against this change if
+there is a reason. There seems to be a reason (as you say), so it's
+ok. But still I think all open questions (especially the one about the
+situation of a crashing or failing x server) need to be addressed
+before the change is made in cauldron to be tested by a broader
+userbase. And I still think it needs to be announced all over the
+place when the change will be implemented.
+
+About the question how hard it is to press another key: not hard. But
+the Ctrl-Alt-F1 has been a standard in ALL distributions and ALL
+documentations (even in the generic books about &quot;Learning Linux&quot;), a
+standard like the SAA menue standard (&quot;File&quot; on the left, &quot;Help&quot; on
+the right) or the &quot;F1 opens Help&quot; standard. Therefore changing this is
+a bit more than usual changes between versions.
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