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+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+<PRE>Op woensdag 14 december 2011 23:19:40 schreef Michael Scherer:
+&gt;<i> Le samedi 10 d&#233;cembre 2011 &#224; 12:14 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; You're explaining why having orphan packages is bad and it's hard to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; disagree, but I fail to see why such a mailing list for people who are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ready to devote some time to orphan packages would make things worse.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It's not because it's not the ideal solution that it's bad, is it?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Because such a mailling list would just incite people to add package and
+</I>&gt;<i> never remove them, because &quot;that's not really unmaintained, that's
+</I>&gt;<i> collectively maintained&quot;. Which is just a non sense.
+</I>
+like mysql
+
+&gt;<i> That's how it was in Mandriva, so the proposition is just not helping.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Each time a cleaning was attempted, someone said &quot;but come on, we are
+</I>&gt;<i> taking care of it collectively, so you cannot remove, it could still
+</I>&gt;<i> help&quot;. And so almost nothing was removed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I see no reason to think it will be different. Same situation, same
+</I>&gt;<i> spirit, same users, same outcome.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Either people agree that we should have no orphans, and then the list is
+</I>&gt;<i> useless, or they think we should keep orphans, and then this is causing
+</I>&gt;<i> issues. Middle ground ( like &quot;let's keep orphan for X months&quot; ) are just
+</I>&gt;<i> a variation of the first one, and so we would just be discussing the
+</I>&gt;<i> duration.
+</I>
+imho this mailing list is only good to notify other of maintainer who aren't
+active with their package, and to let people see: &quot;oops, this one is
+unmaintained, but i need it, so i'll maintain it.&quot;
+
+so imo it should contain information: maintainership (if any), # bugs, perhaps
+even other packages that require or buildrequire it...
+
+i think this mailing list would be good, (not only for having no maintainer)
+
+&gt;<i> So let's try to make a proposal, if there is a list, after how many
+</I>&gt;<i> months should a package be removed from the repository if not maintained
+</I>&gt;<i> ( and by maintained, I do not say &quot;not changes or anything&quot;, I really
+</I>&gt;<i> mean &quot;no one listed as maintainer&quot; ) ?
+</I>
+otoh, this is difficult, eg:
+
+mysql have no maintainer atm
+i want to provide mariadb as alternative, and be maintainer of that. (and drop
+mysql)
+
+but a convergence time is required, imho.
+
+so, i would say, packages could be dropped if no maintainer is set for 3
+months unless someone is doing the work to get this dropped as a result of
+something else.
+
+agreed?
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