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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] [RFC] nouveau, swrastg, libdri-drivers-experimental</H1>
+ <B>Anssi Hannula</B>
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+<PRE>On 05.12.2011 08:09, Anssi Hannula wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. nouveau
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I propose to move nouveau DRI drivers from libdri-drivers-experimental
+</I>&gt;<i> to libdri-drivers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora moved them out of -experimental in last January, Ubuntu in last
+</I>&gt;<i> June, OpenSUSE in July (though OpenSUSE doesn't have the legacy
+</I>&gt;<i> nouveau_vieux DRI driver at all), and Debian a week ago.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've been running with it for the last week or so with no problems on my
+</I>&gt;<i> card.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> WDYT?
+</I>
+No one was against, so I'm moving nouveau drivers to main dri-drivers
+package.
+
+&gt;<i> 2. swrastg
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems we have both swrast_dri.so and swrastg_dri.so in libdri-drivers
+</I>&gt;<i> package.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> swrast_dri.so is the traditional SW rasterizer used when there is no HW
+</I>&gt;<i> support.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> swrastg_dri.so is the Gallium3d-based rasterizer which is considerably
+</I>&gt;<i> faster.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However, actually only swrast_dri.so is used, so should we:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) switch to swrastg, drop swrast (Fedora in Nov 2010)
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) keep it as is, unused (~4 MB)
+</I>&gt;<i> 3) move swrastg to libdri-drivers-experimental (Ubuntu in Jun 2010,
+</I>&gt;<i> Debian a week ago) which nouveau is probably moving out of
+</I>&gt;<i> 4) drop swrastg completely for now (seemingly OpenSUSE)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunately I have no idea on the status of swrastg beyond the above
+</I>&gt;<i> distro information, and the fact that it does indeed work as tested
+</I>&gt;<i> while writing this, and XBMC runs smoother with it than with swrast.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd be somewhat inclined to follow Fedora here, but I'm not at all sure.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> WDYT (see also below)?
+</I>
+Seems 1 was more preferred in general, so I'll do that and drop legacy
+swrast.
+
+&gt;<i> Implementation note: With a quick look I didn't find any easy way to
+</I>&gt;<i> switch a system to use swrastg_dri.so when both are installed; if we
+</I>&gt;<i> want to provide switching between them, we need to either
+</I>&gt;<i> a) use alternatives for swrast_dri.so, or
+</I>&gt;<i> b) have swrastg_dri.so in a different dir and have that path first in
+</I>&gt;<i> the dri search path so that when -experimental is installed, it
+</I>&gt;<i> will get preferred (while mesa has the needed code already, xserver
+</I>&gt;<i> would need a trivial patch as it currently has a single search path)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> WDYT?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+--
+Anssi Hannula
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