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Changelog is the same as in cauldron. + +Option 2: + svn checkout \ + svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/backports/1/foobar/current">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/backports/1/foobar/current</A> \ + foobar + cd foobar && svn merge -r prevrev:HEAD \ + svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/foobar/current">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/foobar/current</A> + svn commit + # copy all the log entries from the cauldron interval to the log msg + and submit. + Note: results in broken changelogs unless one does manual + markreleases, but changelogs are already broken both in mga1 updates + and in cauldron (youri issue [1]). This is more notable here, though, + as backports happen generally more often multiple times than updates. + +Repeat with 1.3. + +Correct? + +[1] <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2633">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2633</A> + +-- +Anssi Hannula +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="010213.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Opening Backports (once again...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="010219.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Opening Backports (once again...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#10215">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#10215">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#10215">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#10215">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |