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+ <B>Samuel Verschelde</B>
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+ <I>Thu Aug 25 19:12:26 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 25 ao&#251;t 2011 14:09:26, Stew Benedict a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 08/24/2011 08:50 PM, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I was told that QA Team's work's visibility needs to be improved, so as a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; team member I'll try to give you some sort of status report.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - 1 has been validated by QA one month ago, but was assigned to security
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; team following updates policy for security fixes, and got not answer. We
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; have to improve either the policy or the security team here (or both).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you have a pointer to this bug? I'm not finding it in bugzilla. I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> not sure what I can do with it once assigned back to secteam, aside from
+</I>&gt;<i> write an advisory text. I don't have admin rights to release it, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i> (afaik). It was basically my understanding that the secteam role is to
+</I>&gt;<i> initiate the bug, provide patches, POC, and advisory text and the
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainer do the update and pass it on to QA. I've stopped even
+</I>&gt;<i> intiating because they are just sitting there in the new/unassigned
+</I>&gt;<i> state. some for 2 months or more now. While a shiny new KDE is nice, not
+</I>&gt;<i> pushing updates for published vulnerabilities makes us look bad, imho.
+</I>
+It's <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2239">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2239</A>
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+I think the initial idea in the updates policy is that security fixes have to
+be tested by secteam to ensure that the security problem is not there anymore,
+because sometimes the upstream or the packager fixes it in a wrong way or does
+a mistake, so we need to ensure the security problems are really fixed.
+Otherwise we risk saying that a security issue is fixed when it's not.
+Obviously, this can't happen if the security team doesn't grow. Maybe some
+kind of joint effort from security and QA could help ?
+
+I already know updates that have been pushed without the security fixes being
+tested.
+
+Also, the security bugs being open in bugzilla and not adressed by the
+packagers is a really big issue, that we have to find a way to fix as soon as
+possible. Can you give us a link to the list of pending security issues ?
+
+Best regards
+
+Samuel Verschelde
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