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How are you supposed to configure a server in some +</I>><i> >>>>> automated manner without plain-old configuration files ? +</I>><i> >>>> If i'm not wrong you can still drop plain text files in +</I>><i> >>>> /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> Provided you want to do nothing fancy like bridge, vlan and +</I>><i> >>> others stuff that are used by sysadmins. +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> As I said in my initial email, but was not clear. All of these things +</I>><i> >> will be supported in a much nicer way in the near future. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > But so far, this is not supported. And since we have said we do not +</I>><i> > remove non systemd from Mageia 2 +</I>><i> > ( <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/006701.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/006701.html</A> ) , +</I>><i> > I think we cannot take systemd for granted before mageia 3. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yup, that's why I mentioned mageia 3 in my initial mail. +</I> +Oups, I misread :/ + +Then my answer is "we didn't even released 2, so let's keep discussion +about 3 for later" + +( seriously, it didn't even occurs to me that we would start discussing +3 right now ) + +Personnaly, I think that would be good to have something better than +current initscripts and shell based approach for managing network +( since we already manage the network with ifplugd, having a daemon is +not a so big problem, and I am sure we could have a mode where the +daemon apply the configuration and then disappear, if that make people +less nervous ). But I would really make sure that people agree with the +change. I would rather avoid having the same type of discussion than on +fedora-devel + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007447.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007445.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7465">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7465">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7465">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7465">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |