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How are you supposed to configure a server in some +</I>>>>>><i> automated manner without plain-old configuration files ? +</I>>>>><i> If i'm not wrong you can still drop plain text files in +</I>>>>><i> /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Provided you want to do nothing fancy like bridge, vlan and +</I>>>><i> others stuff that are used by sysadmins. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> As I said in my initial email, but was not clear. All of these things +</I>>><i> will be supported in a much nicer way in the near future. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But so far, this is not supported. And since we have said we do not +</I>><i> remove non systemd from Mageia 2 +</I>><i> ( <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/006701.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/006701.html</A> ) , +</I>><i> I think we cannot take systemd for granted before mageia 3. +</I> +Yup, that's why I mentioned mageia 3 in my initial mail. + +><i> And precisely, because we are not gonna keep only systemd for mageia 2, +</I>><i> we cannot depreciate network script. +</I> +Oh yeah, I'm not proposing any of this for mga2... + +>><i> But yes, Fedora will switch and we can follow, but it would be nice to +</I>>><i> be at the fore front here if possible. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Would we have too much ressources, maybe. But so far, there is already +</I>><i> enough work on <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/">http://check.mageia.org/</A> to keep people busy, and I do +</I>><i> not really see the need to add more breakage and shiny stuff when we are +</I>><i> far from being able to take care of what we already have. +</I> +Well, fixing the existing stuff or switching to new shiney things with +no doubt (different) breakages, is much of a muchness IMO. Sure it does +take some initial work, but also allows us to get fixes from other +parties rather than having to fix everything ourselves which is, overall +a net positive in terms of resources. + +Col + + + + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>] +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>] + PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>] + Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>] +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007444.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007465.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7447">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7447">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7447">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7447">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |