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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default.</H1>
+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+ <I>Tue Aug 23 11:10:25 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Le mardi 23 ao&#251;t 2011 &#224; 09:30 +0100, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Michael scherer at 22/08/11 13:14 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 08:44:01AM -0300, Balcaen John wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Le Monday 22 August 2011 12:57:23 Guillaume Rousse a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; On 22/08/2011 11:57, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I also have it on good authority that many of the features lacking
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; in NetworkManager (such as bridging configuration) will be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; available in the not too distant future and many other more
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; advanced networking features such as fast-start DHCP,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; per-interface DNS, 4-8's DNS fallback and several other nice
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; features will ultimately be possible too.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; While I don't care about configuration wizards, I do about
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; initscripts. How are you supposed to configure a server in some
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; automated manner without plain-old configuration files ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; If i'm not wrong you can still drop plain text files in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Provided you want to do nothing fancy like bridge, vlan and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; others stuff that are used by sysadmins.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As I said in my initial email, but was not clear. All of these things
+</I>&gt;<i> will be supported in a much nicer way in the near future.
+</I>
+But so far, this is not supported. And since we have said we do not
+remove non systemd from Mageia 2
+( <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/006701.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/006701.html</A> ) ,
+I think we cannot take systemd for granted before mageia 3.
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+And precisely, because we are not gonna keep only systemd for mageia 2,
+we cannot depreciate network script.
+
+&gt;<i> But yes, Fedora will switch and we can follow, but it would be nice to
+</I>&gt;<i> be at the fore front here if possible.
+</I>
+Would we have too much ressources, maybe. But so far, there is already
+enough work on <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/">http://check.mageia.org/</A> to keep people busy, and I do
+not really see the need to add more breakage and shiny stuff when we are
+far from being able to take care of what we already have.
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+--
+Michael Scherer
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