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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+ <I>Mon Aug 1 13:10:08 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>2011/8/1 Thomas Lottmann &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">skipercooker at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I should have written this mail much sooner, but finally, I am totally,
+</I>&gt;<i> completely and starting to be hatefully fed up of these tools.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The Mandriva/Mageia tools that manage the network on computers, especially
+</I>&gt;<i> the wireless networks are completely dysfunctional. While the Network Center
+</I>&gt;<i> does not seem to even communicate with the system tools to know what is
+</I>&gt;<i> happening during the link setup, it does not auto-refresh network lists
+</I>&gt;<i> properly.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Since 2010.1 now even mixes up itself in it's own network scripts (the ones
+</I>&gt;<i> stored in wireless.d). This maxes it wrongly detect numerous wireless points
+</I>&gt;<i> (he seen WPA2 Enterperise hotspots as opened or WEP, or more nerving,
+</I>&gt;<i> becomes incapable or storing the right authentication information). A tool
+</I>&gt;<i> that breaks itself is a complete shame!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The GUI is also appalling. Despite it's numerous possibilities, it is a mess
+</I>&gt;<i> and 60% of it cannot be used by something else than the system or a network
+</I>&gt;<i> expert.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The code itself is undocumented and it extremely difficult to read.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> These tools are getting really bad and not working properly anyway since a
+</I>&gt;<i> long time now. So either we fix it and improve it (recoding?), either we
+</I>&gt;<i> definitely switch to Network Manager. I am ready to participate if necessary
+</I>&gt;<i> (despite my lack of competence), but I do not want to see these tools 'as
+</I>&gt;<i> is' on my computer anymore, and no longer want to see these issues that down
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia's reputation in comparison to other popular projects here such as
+</I>&gt;<i> Arch, Fedora or Ubuntu, who do have proper tools delivered by default.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is not the first time I complain about this tool. We should not leave
+</I>&gt;<i> this unchanged. It is far too annoying and pushing to so much loss of time.
+</I>
+While I cannot confirm the problems you are talking about in former
+Mandriva (2010.x) nor in Mageia 1, I do have the problems in Mageia
+Cauldron, mostly caused by (guess what?) - network-manager! I reported
+about this in the forum
+(<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=15&amp;t=869">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=15&amp;t=869</A>).
+Just current case: after an update run in Cauldron my wifi does not
+connect, then connects and disconnects again after a few seconds.
+After trying several measurements like removing the setup-script,
+removing the connection in MCC, etc., all without result, I
+de-installed network-manager and configured wifi again by the draktool
+without NM - it works now.
+
+As you see, my &quot;mileage&quot; varies from yours. :)
+
+--
+wobo
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