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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101216/001737.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101216/001737.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..330b0818d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101216/001737.html @@ -0,0 +1,153 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout&In-Reply-To=%3C201012160447.07148.ewilcox%40bex.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001738.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout</H1> + <B>Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout&In-Reply-To=%3C201012160447.07148.ewilcox%40bex.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout">ewilcox at bex.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Dec 16 10:47:07 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001738.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1737">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1737">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1737">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1737">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 02:44:21AM -0500, Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. wrote: +|<i> >Consideration of software patents and copyrights does not constitute | | +</I>|<i> implicit +</I> | >support for them. It does however constitute explicit support for | | +obediance of + | >the law. Like it or not, patent and copyright laws do exist in some | +countries + | >(especially the U.S.A. - my home), and it is our responsibility to take +those + | >laws into considertion (whether we want to or not). Laws can not be +changed by + | >ignoring them, only broken. People who break laws are criminals - no ifs, + | >ands, or buts, about it. If the Mageia community chooses to opeate as a + | >criminal organization, I will have nothing to do with it. + | I don't agree on most of the above, and i believe the last sentence to be + | offensive, but i will not retaliate lest it becomes a flame war. + +I do not see how that statement is offensive. It is a simple statement of fact. +If the Mageia community chooses to ignore the laws of some countries for any +reason (even if the community can not be prosecuted), I want nothing to do +with it. I do not believe that this will be the case, but that is how I feel. +A strongly stated position, honestly presented should never cause offense to +any one. If I havce offended you, I appologize as that was not my intent, but I +will not appologize for my beliefs. + + | >We are discussing whether to accomodate software patent and copyright law +in + | >countries where it exists. I can see no way to avoud doing so. We can +include + | >patented software in our distribution if we choose to do so (and I think +we + | >should), but we must provide both mirror hosts and end users (including +me) a + | >method of easily excluding such software. By doing so, we give our users +and + | >supporters the freedom to choose to obey the law where they live and still +use + | >or support our distribution. + | The biggest problem is the variety of patent laws existing in the world, + | besides the fact that patents are not granted worldwide, thus forcing + | mageia to taint software that should not be under different + | legislations. See the difference between fair-use clauses in laws about + | circumvention devices. + +The variety of laws that exist is not the issue, the fact that they do exist +is, and this is why I think PLF is a good place for "questionable" software. +If we choose to provide such software ourselves, then it should be in a +"tainted" listing or repo. + + | >As I see it, we already have a usable mirror lay-out (posted earlier in +this + | >thread). The only real discussion that should remain is whether to include +the + | >"tainted" branch in the official Mageia tree, or to offer it in an alternate + | >repository such as PLF (my earlier suggestion). + | I don't believe a separate repository would give any benefit, in any + | case it would be software provided by mageia, and built on mageia + | build-cluster. + +If we place the "tainted" software in the official Mageia mirror, then it should +be in its own directory. If we put it in PLF, then it will get its own +repository as a natural course of events. In either case, what is most +important is that the user be able to install Mageia without the potential +risk that such software may present, then if the user chooses to install the +"questionable" software, (s)he is making an informed decision. + + | >In either case, I do not believe that ALL patented (or Copyrighted) +software + | >should be placed there (in the "tainted" branch). Some such software comes + | >with explicit permission to use (perhaps nVidia and/or ATI drivers?). In +other + | >cases, we may be able to contact the patent or copyright holder and get + | >explicit permission to include their software in our distribution. In such + | >cases, we should be able to safely (for both our users and supporters) +include + | >the patented / copyrighted software with the official branch of our + | >distribution. + | Software with non-free license but permission to distribute should end + | in non-free, software with a non-free license and no permission to + | distribute should not be distributed. But this is a very different issue + | from free-software possibly breaking some patent. Please do not mix the + | two issues. + +I agree with both parts of your first statement. I was not thinking at all +about free software that may break some patent, but perhaps I should have. +There is free software that is known to be patent infringing (writing +(creating) an mp3 file comes to mind). It is such software that should be +placed separately (perhaps in a "non-free" or "tainted" directory) from the +main Mageia distribution. I have no problem with such software being +distributed where it is legal. I simply want to make it easy for end users and +miror hosts to exclude this software where it is illegal. I will not enter +into the argument that it is not illegal untill the patent holder comes after +you. To my way of thinking, that feels very similar to saying that stealing is +not a crime untill you get caught. + +-- +Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. +Registered Linux User 247790 +ICQ 41060744 +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001738.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1737">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1737">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1737">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1737">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101216/001738.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101216/001738.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e6a3c411a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101216/001738.html @@ -0,0 +1,142 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim_0fKiYM6N-1OmkKOf%2Bn6Cva27cpB_0tYf%2BQOd%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001737.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001739.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim_0fKiYM6N-1OmkKOf%2Bn6Cva27cpB_0tYf%2BQOd%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Dec 16 12:36:51 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001737.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001739.html">[Mageia-dev] First packagers meeting +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1738">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1738">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1738">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1738">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:47, Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ewilcox at bex.net</A>> wrote: +><i> If the Mageia community chooses to ignore the laws of some countries for any +</I>><i> reason (even if the community can not be prosecuted), I want nothing to do +</I>><i> with it. +</I> +So you do already. The common subset of laws of all countries in the +world is like... almost empty. The global tendency in the past decades +is to grow this common subset but it's far from being achieved (and +may as well reverse, history showed us). + +As a matter of fact, Mageia as an organisation fostering free software +and innovation through collaboration is likely to ignore/refute/fight, +by whatever mean and at whatever relevant scale, laws that would +censor/prohibit, as such: + - reverse-engineering + - cryptography tools + - freedom of speech + - user privacy + - to name just 4 of them. + +See? There are significant countries in this case. + +"Obey the law" is not rule #0 in life (even more if unbalanced). If it +were, we would mostly all be slaves, instead of free citizens. + +><i> A strongly stated position, honestly presented should never cause offense to +</I>><i> any one. +</I> +You cannot please everyone. Law of life. + +><i> If I havce offended you, I appologize as that was not my intent, but I +</I>><i> will not appologize for my beliefs. +</I> +And you should not. :-) As long as things are said with respect. + +><i> The variety of laws that exist is not the issue, the fact that they do exist +</I>><i> is, and this is why I think PLF is a good place for "questionable" software. +</I>><i> If we choose to provide such software ourselves, then it should be in a +</I>><i> "tainted" listing or repo. +</I> +Yes. But this is still an "imperfect" solution as the frontier between +what should be in tainted and core will vary according to the +territory you are in. So we have to decide on a _reasonable_ frontier, +that will not match strictly everyone anyway. + +><i> I have no problem with such software being distributed where it is legal. +</I>><i> I simply want to make it easy for end users and +</I>><i> miror hosts to exclude this software where it is illegal. +</I> +We can't do it totally for three reasons: + * law is not universally the same; + * law changes, wherever it is. What is legal today may be illegal +tomorrow. What was illegal today may be legal tomorrow. + * patents may be invalid or have expired (although properly registered). + +So again, that does not help us but realize that we cannot have a +stable layout policy for what comes under "core", "non-free" and +"tainted". This is a matter of finding a reasonable balance, regarding +a given set of laws (likely, European/US laws). + +Because, otherwise: + * as soon as someone claims having a patent anywhere on some methods +implemented in some software of core, it should move to "tainted" +(with all consequences). + * as soon as a patent expire (or its invalidity is revealed through a +court decision), all related "tainted" packages may move into "core" +or "non-free". + +So indeed, we've got to build this "tainted" repository and fill it +with what we think it should reasonably be with; that means having a +policy (list of questions to ask to qualify the package/software to +enter "tainted" or not). I proposed one earlier, that was extreme +(that was the goal). We should have a similar one, amended. + +><i> I will not enter +</I>><i> into the argument that it is not illegal untill the patent holder comes after +</I>><i> you. To my way of thinking, that feels very similar to saying that stealing is +</I>><i> not a crime untill you get caught. +</I> +Do not map physical/concrete world metaphors to immaterial world. It +is not the same. Not the same rules apply. And thinking/law is lagging +a lot in this regard, as for any new/young stuff. + +Cheers, + +Romain +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001737.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001739.html">[Mageia-dev] First packagers meeting +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1738">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1738">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1738">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1738">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101216/001739.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101216/001739.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5b4344488 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101216/001739.html @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] First packagers meeting + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20First%20packagers%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3CPine.LNX.4.44.1012161334430.12735-100000%40outpost-priv%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001738.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001740.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] First packagers meeting</H1> + <B>Tux99</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20First%20packagers%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3CPine.LNX.4.44.1012161334430.12735-100000%40outpost-priv%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] First packagers meeting">tux99-mga at uridium.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Dec 16 13:36:57 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001738.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001740.html">[Mageia-dev] First packagers meeting +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1739">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1739">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1739">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1739">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> +Could these meetings in the future please be announced with a bit more +notice? + +One day before is not enough time, I wasn't able to read ML mail in the +past two days, only saw this now and already missed it... :-( + +Thanks in advance! + + +On Tue, 14 Dec 2010, Anne nicolas wrote: + +><i> Hi there! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As you may have noticed, Mageia teams creation is in progress. i18n +</I>><i> has just started last week. It's now packagers turn. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You have registered on wiki: +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging.">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging.</A> Please have a look on +</I>><i> this page. You will find very first items to setup this team. +</I>><i> mageia-dev will be the official mailing-list for packagers. So if you +</I>><i> know people who want to become packagers and who are not registered, +</I>><i> please inform them about it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> First packagers meeting will happen on 15, december 19h30 UTC on +</I>><i> #mageia-dev. Here are the topics to start with: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - quick introduction of people attending meeting +</I>><i> - setup internal organization: meetings planning, representatives, +</I>><i> relations with other Mageia teams to synchronize work +</I>><i> - setup mentoring for incoming packagers (who, when, how...) +</I>><i> - work on packaging policies, starting from Mandriva Linux policies +</I>><i> - work on mentoring process to make life easier for mentors +</I>><i> - organize work for packages import in Mageia svn +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Feel free to comment before meeting. We will have a bot to log our meeting. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> See you on Wednesday +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001738.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001740.html">[Mageia-dev] First packagers meeting +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1739">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1739">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1739">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1739">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101216/001740.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101216/001740.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..55b626119 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101216/001740.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] First packagers meeting + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20First%20packagers%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DUpu0gv9pKUD6RmKVZqbBdVW33d%3Dkpf97gyzHu%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001739.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001741.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] First packagers meeting</H1> + <B>Leandro Dorileo</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20First%20packagers%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DUpu0gv9pKUD6RmKVZqbBdVW33d%3Dkpf97gyzHu%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] First packagers meeting">ldorileo at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Dec 16 17:02:31 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001739.html">[Mageia-dev] First packagers meeting +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001741.html">[Mageia-dev] First packagers meeting +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1740">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1740">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1740">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1740">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi + +On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Tux99 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>> wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> Could these meetings in the future please be announced with a bit more +</I>><i> notice? +</I> + +The meeting has been announced in the ML since last week when reported +the I18n meeting, now there`s a schedule[1] what makes easier to know +when the next metting is about to happen. + +[1] - <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-dev/2010/mageia-dev.2010-12-15-19.30.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-dev/2010/mageia-dev.2010-12-15-19.30.html</A> + + +Regards.... + +-- +Leandro Dorileo +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001739.html">[Mageia-dev] First packagers meeting +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001741.html">[Mageia-dev] First packagers meeting +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1740">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1740">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1740">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1740">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101216/001741.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101216/001741.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6c293e4ba --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101216/001741.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] First packagers meeting + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20First%20packagers%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinFM6gO_iZYkhh6SoMhTmmUt5vz2aBXx%3DNKx0Wo%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001740.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001742.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] First packagers meeting</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20First%20packagers%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinFM6gO_iZYkhh6SoMhTmmUt5vz2aBXx%3DNKx0Wo%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] First packagers meeting">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Dec 16 18:29:52 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001740.html">[Mageia-dev] First packagers meeting +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001742.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1741">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1741">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1741">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1741">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/12/16 Leandro Dorileo <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ldorileo at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Tux99 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Could these meetings in the future please be announced with a bit more +</I>>><i> notice? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The meeting has been announced in the ML since last week when reported +</I>><i> the I18n meeting, now there`s a schedule[1] what makes easier to know +</I>><i> when the next metting is about to happen. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> [1] - <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-dev/2010/mageia-dev.2010-12-15-19.30.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-dev/2010/mageia-dev.2010-12-15-19.30.html</A> +</I> +I think tux99 is referring to the packager team meeting which was +announced a bit late. + +I think this "problem" will vanish as there will be a fixed schedule +like with other team meetings. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001740.html">[Mageia-dev] First packagers meeting +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001742.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1741">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1741">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1741">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1741">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101216/001742.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101216/001742.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..184a1e2f1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101216/001742.html @@ -0,0 +1,233 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mageia policies + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mageia%20policies&In-Reply-To=%3C20101216182132.GB4551%40shikamaru.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001741.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001743.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies</H1> + <B>Remy CLOUARD</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mageia%20policies&In-Reply-To=%3C20101216182132.GB4551%40shikamaru.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies">shikamaru at mandriva.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Dec 16 19:21:32 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001741.html">[Mageia-dev] First packagers meeting +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001743.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1742">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1742">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1742">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1742">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi, + +As promised, you’ll find a list of existing policies that we could use +for Mageia. As we said during our first meeting, the idea is to avoid +NIH syndrome and reuse what already exists. + +Here is a list of some of Mandriva policies for review. I tried to +organize them in sections, some of them might be rather incomplete, or +outdated. Please announce which subsection you’re going to proofread, +that will allow us to get through them faster (2 or 3 people max per +page should be good) + +As for the process, I would be in favor of creating one thread per +policy review, because that could help people having knowledge in some +area to sort out these mails and reply to them specifically. + +Some of these policies have already been discussed in previous threads, +in that case we shouldn’t create a new one. + +New packagers might want to take a look at some of these policies +too, it will help you getting faster on par with the prerequisites to +become a packager too. + +WARNING, long list coming. + +Licenses +- Licensing policy + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Licensing_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Licensing_policy</A> -> this policy will have + to be reviewed to match our mirroring layout, otherwise, it should + also include allowed licenses (those can be retrieved with rpmlint -i) +- Mandriva Linux Valid Licenses + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mandriva_Linux_Valid_Licenses">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mandriva_Linux_Valid_Licenses</A> -> seems + outdated + +Common Packaging Practices +- RPM Groups + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Policies/GroupTag">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Policies/GroupTag</A> + -> there has been some discussions this evening about having more + fine-grained groups. IMHO, I think we have already a lot of things to + do to review packages for import, I think we should postpone this + after the first release. +- RPM specs file syntax + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/RPM_specs_file_syntax">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/RPM_specs_file_syntax</A> -> maybe add a + section about subpackages, where to put the %files section, use of + spaces/tabs. + tbh I just discovered this one while making this list. +- Versioning scheme + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Distribution_specific_release_tag_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Distribution_specific_release_tag_policy</A> + -> this one needs a bit of cleaning IMHO, there are quite some + discussions inside the page, while these should happen in discussion. + Some information might need to be adapted to Mageia (ie mdk->mga) +- Preversions + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/packaging/Policies/PreVersions">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/packaging/Policies/PreVersions</A> + -> old, needs to be reworked (what about changesets in hg or git ?) +- Post-Release Support Policy + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Support">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Support</A> -> This one needs to be + adapted to match our mirroring structure (see the mirror layout thread + and the mirror policy item below) +- Freeze policy + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Freeze">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Freeze</A> -> draft +- Maintainers Policy + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Roles/Maintainer">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Roles/Maintainer</A> + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Maintainers_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Maintainers_policy</A> -> this one is + quite recent, and is still discussed, not sure we will follow this + every convention mentionned here either. +- XDG menu system policy + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/XDG_menu_system_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/XDG_menu_system_policy</A> +- Charset + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Charset_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Charset_policy</A> -> not sure we need to keep + this one, should be UTF-8 by default (though C is the default on the + mandriva cluster). Besides, translations aren’t in specs AFAIK +- Alternatives policy + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Alternatives_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Alternatives_policy</A> -> not sure we want to + have a lot of packages with alternatives, I was always told these are + a pain to maintain, shall we take this ? +- Multiarch policy + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Multiarch_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Multiarch_policy</A> +- SSL Certificates + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/SSL_certificates_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/SSL_certificates_policy</A> +- LSB + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Howto/LSB_Package">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Howto/LSB_Package</A> + + +Subpackages Packaging Practices +- Locales + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Packaging_%26_Localisation_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Packaging_%26_Localisation_policy</A> +- Libraries + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Libraries_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Libraries_policy</A> -> maybe add a section + about header files for devel packages +- Libtool archives (*.la) policy + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Libtool_archives_%28*.la%29_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Libtool_archives_%28*.la%29_policy</A> -> + maybe merge it into the library policy ? + +Language Specific Policies +- Perl + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Perl_library_packaging_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Perl_library_packaging_policy</A> +- Python + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Python_packaging_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Python_packaging_policy</A> + (draft) +- Ruby + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Ruby_packaging_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Ruby_packaging_policy</A> + (draft too, some things need to be discussed too, ie naming + conventions) +- Java + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Native_Java_Packaging_Policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Native_Java_Packaging_Policy</A> + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Java_Packaging_Policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Java_Packaging_Policy</A> + (Do we need to merge these pages ?) +- TCL + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Policies/Tcl">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Policies/Tcl</A> +- OCaml + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Ocaml_library_packaging_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Ocaml_library_packaging_policy</A> + (are there people interested in maintaining OCaml packages ? if yes, + please add it on <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging</A> +- Haskell + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Policies/Haskell">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Policies/Haskell</A> + same as above + + +Specific types of packages +- Kernel + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Kernel_Patches">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Kernel_Patches</A> +- DKMS + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/DKMS_packaging_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/DKMS_packaging_policy</A> +- Initscripts + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Policies/Initscripts">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Policies/Initscripts</A> +- Drakxtools + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/DrakXGui">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/DrakXGui</A> +- Xorg + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Packaging/Modular_X">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Packaging/Modular_X</A> (outdated) +- Fonts + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Fonts_packaging_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Fonts_packaging_policy</A> +- KDE 4 + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/KDE_4_packaging_policies">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/KDE_4_packaging_policies</A> +- Web applications policy + <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Web_applications_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Web_applications_policy</A> + + +Mirror policy +<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mandriva_Mirror_Structure_Policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mandriva_Mirror_Structure_Policy</A> , +<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Mirror_Structure">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Mirror_Structure</A> and +<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/SoftwareMedia">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/SoftwareMedia</A> +Well, as we are going to a different mirroring structure, I think these +ones need to be fully reworked from the discussions (see +<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mirrors_policy">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mirrors_policy</A>) + +Bug policy +<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Bug_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Bug_policy</A> +This one should be handled in coordination with (or by) the triage team. + +Some hidden policies might also be included in various howtos, I might +miss some of them : +<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Tools/RPM/Howto">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Tools/RPM/Howto</A> + +Finally, the following links are not policies, but I think they could be +included too : +<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Problems">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Problems</A> +<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Problems/Overlinking">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Problems/Overlinking</A> +<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Problems/Underlinking">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Problems/Underlinking</A> + +I’m not sure this list is complete, most are taken from these pages : +<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Packaging/Tools">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Packaging/Tools</A> +<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Category:Packaging_Policies">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Category:Packaging_Policies</A> + +Thanks in advance to all reviewers, + +Regards, +-- +Rémy CLOUARD +() ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail +/\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 230 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101216/de148046/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001741.html">[Mageia-dev] First packagers meeting +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001743.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1742">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1742">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1742">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1742">[ author ]</a> + 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HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mageia%20policies&In-Reply-To=%3C4D0A7717.4080605%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies">cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Dec 16 21:31:19 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001742.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1743">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1743">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1743">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1743">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 16/12/2010 19:21, Remy CLOUARD a écrit : +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As promised, you’ll find a list of existing policies that we could use +</I>><i> for Mageia. As we said during our first meeting, the idea is to avoid +</I>><i> NIH syndrome and reuse what already exists. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Here is a list of some of Mandriva policies for review. I tried to +</I>><i> organize them in sections, some of them might be rather incomplete, or +</I>><i> outdated. Please announce which subsection you’re going to proofread, +</I>><i> that will allow us to get through them faster (2 or 3 people max per +</I>><i> page should be good) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As for the process, I would be in favor of creating one thread per +</I>><i> policy review, because that could help people having knowledge in some +</I>><i> area to sort out these mails and reply to them specifically. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Some of these policies have already been discussed in previous threads, +</I>><i> in that case we shouldn’t create a new one. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> New packagers might want to take a look at some of these policies +</I>><i> too, it will help you getting faster on par with the prerequisites to +</I>><i> become a packager too. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> WARNING, long list coming. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Licenses +</I>><i> - Licensing policy +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Licensing_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Licensing_policy</A> -> this policy will have +</I>><i> to be reviewed to match our mirroring layout, otherwise, it should +</I>><i> also include allowed licenses (those can be retrieved with rpmlint -i) +</I>><i> - Mandriva Linux Valid Licenses +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mandriva_Linux_Valid_Licenses">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mandriva_Linux_Valid_Licenses</A> -> seems +</I>><i> outdated +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Common Packaging Practices +</I>><i> - RPM Groups +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Policies/GroupTag">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Policies/GroupTag</A> +</I>><i> -> there has been some discussions this evening about having more +</I>><i> fine-grained groups. IMHO, I think we have already a lot of things to +</I>><i> do to review packages for import, I think we should postpone this +</I>><i> after the first release. +</I>><i> - RPM specs file syntax +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/RPM_specs_file_syntax">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/RPM_specs_file_syntax</A> -> maybe add a +</I>><i> section about subpackages, where to put the %files section, use of +</I>><i> spaces/tabs. +</I>><i> tbh I just discovered this one while making this list. +</I>><i> - Versioning scheme +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Distribution_specific_release_tag_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Distribution_specific_release_tag_policy</A> +</I>><i> -> this one needs a bit of cleaning IMHO, there are quite some +</I>><i> discussions inside the page, while these should happen in discussion. +</I>><i> Some information might need to be adapted to Mageia (ie mdk->mga) +</I>><i> - Preversions +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/packaging/Policies/PreVersions">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/packaging/Policies/PreVersions</A> +</I>><i> -> old, needs to be reworked (what about changesets in hg or git ?) +</I>><i> - Post-Release Support Policy +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Support">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Support</A> -> This one needs to be +</I>><i> adapted to match our mirroring structure (see the mirror layout thread +</I>><i> and the mirror policy item below) +</I>><i> - Freeze policy +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Freeze">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Freeze</A> -> draft +</I>><i> - Maintainers Policy +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Roles/Maintainer">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Roles/Maintainer</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Maintainers_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Maintainers_policy</A> -> this one is +</I>><i> quite recent, and is still discussed, not sure we will follow this +</I>><i> every convention mentionned here either. +</I>><i> - XDG menu system policy +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/XDG_menu_system_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/XDG_menu_system_policy</A> +</I>><i> - Charset +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Charset_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Charset_policy</A> -> not sure we need to keep +</I>><i> this one, should be UTF-8 by default (though C is the default on the +</I>><i> mandriva cluster). Besides, translations aren’t in specs AFAIK +</I>><i> - Alternatives policy +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Alternatives_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Alternatives_policy</A> -> not sure we want to +</I>><i> have a lot of packages with alternatives, I was always told these are +</I>><i> a pain to maintain, shall we take this ? +</I>><i> - Multiarch policy +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Multiarch_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Multiarch_policy</A> +</I>><i> - SSL Certificates +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/SSL_certificates_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/SSL_certificates_policy</A> +</I>><i> - LSB +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Howto/LSB_Package">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Howto/LSB_Package</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Subpackages Packaging Practices +</I>><i> - Locales +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Packaging_%26_Localisation_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Packaging_%26_Localisation_policy</A> +</I>><i> - Libraries +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Libraries_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Libraries_policy</A> -> maybe add a section +</I>><i> about header files for devel packages +</I>><i> - Libtool archives (*.la) policy +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Libtool_archives_%28*.la%29_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Libtool_archives_%28*.la%29_policy</A> -> +</I>><i> maybe merge it into the library policy ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Language Specific Policies +</I>><i> - Perl +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Perl_library_packaging_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Perl_library_packaging_policy</A> +</I>><i> - Python +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Python_packaging_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Python_packaging_policy</A> +</I>><i> (draft) +</I>><i> - Ruby +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Ruby_packaging_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Ruby_packaging_policy</A> +</I>><i> (draft too, some things need to be discussed too, ie naming +</I>><i> conventions) +</I>><i> - Java +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Native_Java_Packaging_Policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Native_Java_Packaging_Policy</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Java_Packaging_Policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Java_Packaging_Policy</A> +</I>><i> (Do we need to merge these pages ?) +</I>><i> - TCL +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Policies/Tcl">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Policies/Tcl</A> +</I>><i> - OCaml +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Ocaml_library_packaging_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Ocaml_library_packaging_policy</A> +</I>><i> (are there people interested in maintaining OCaml packages ? if yes, +</I>><i> please add it on <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging</A> +</I>><i> - Haskell +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Policies/Haskell">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Policies/Haskell</A> +</I>><i> same as above +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Specific types of packages +</I>><i> - Kernel +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Kernel_Patches">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Kernel_Patches</A> +</I>><i> - DKMS +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/DKMS_packaging_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/DKMS_packaging_policy</A> +</I>><i> - Initscripts +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Policies/Initscripts">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Policies/Initscripts</A> +</I>><i> - Drakxtools +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/DrakXGui">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/DrakXGui</A> +</I>><i> - Xorg +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Packaging/Modular_X">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Packaging/Modular_X</A> (outdated) +</I>><i> - Fonts +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Fonts_packaging_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Fonts_packaging_policy</A> +</I>><i> - KDE 4 +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/KDE_4_packaging_policies">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/KDE_4_packaging_policies</A> +</I>><i> - Web applications policy +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Web_applications_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Web_applications_policy</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Mirror policy +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mandriva_Mirror_Structure_Policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mandriva_Mirror_Structure_Policy</A> , +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Mirror_Structure">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Mirror_Structure</A> and +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/SoftwareMedia">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/SoftwareMedia</A> +</I>><i> Well, as we are going to a different mirroring structure, I think these +</I>><i> ones need to be fully reworked from the discussions (see +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mirrors_policy">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mirrors_policy</A>) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Bug policy +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Bug_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Bug_policy</A> +</I>><i> This one should be handled in coordination with (or by) the triage team. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Some hidden policies might also be included in various howtos, I might +</I>><i> miss some of them : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Tools/RPM/Howto">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Tools/RPM/Howto</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Finally, the following links are not policies, but I think they could be +</I>><i> included too : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Problems">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Problems</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Problems/Overlinking">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Problems/Overlinking</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Problems/Underlinking">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Problems/Underlinking</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I’m not sure this list is complete, most are taken from these pages : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Packaging/Tools">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Packaging/Tools</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Category:Packaging_Policies">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Category:Packaging_Policies</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thanks in advance to all reviewers, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards, +</I>Very good job, shika! :) + +-- +Sandro Cazzaniga +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001742.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1743">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1743">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1743">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1743">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101216/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101216/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6d2704881 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101216/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-dev 16 December 2010 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>16 December 2010 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Dec 16 10:47:07 CET 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Dec 16 21:31:19 CET 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 7<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="001741.html">[Mageia-dev] First packagers meeting +</A><A NAME="1741"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001742.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies +</A><A NAME="1742"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001740.html">[Mageia-dev] First packagers meeting +</A><A NAME="1740"> </A> +<I>Leandro Dorileo +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001737.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout +</A><A NAME="1737"> </A> +<I>Ernest N. 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