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Their site says that they are open to hosting such packages for +</I>><i> all distros, as long as there are volonteers to support the packages. +</I> +Have you looked at the names of people involved with PLF? Have you seen the +same names posting on this list? + +><i> And since Mageia is (at least initially) compatible with Mandriva, their +</I>><i> page "easyurpmi" could be easily modified to set up mirror sources for +</I>><i> Mageia users. (Call our version "easymageia" ?) +</I> +easyurpmi should not be necessary. Users should not be expected to paste +random commands from random sites into a root shell. + +><i> Using PLF for contrained packages offers a plus for mirror sites willing +</I>><i> to host such packages. +</I>><i> They need only mirror one PLF tree for all distros - be it Mandriva, +</I>><i> Unity, or Mageia. +</I> +Alternatively, the whole dichotomy that necessitated contributors to create a +separate project should be addressed differently, but keeping the packages +integrated into the distribution, but avoiding legal issues by making it easy +for entities hosting the files to avoid infringement. + +><i> Interestingly, in a search for all packages containing "codec" or "mp" +</I>><i> (for mpeg) in the name, I found only 2 packages in PLF that weren't +</I>><i> already in Mandriva : one being quotations from the Simpsons, which the +</I>><i> package said was there for copyright reasons. +</I>><i> All the other PLF packages I found in the above searches were in +</I>><i> Mandriva main. +</I> +Duh. They are the same package, just built with different options. + +><i> Many if not all of which were in PLF for patent reasons, according to +</I>><i> the package description. +</I>><i> Which brings up a difference of PLF packages : the PLF description +</I>><i> usually ends with a line specifying why they are there. (At least +</I>><i> packages destined for Mandriva users.) +</I> +Search for plf in e.g. <A HREF="http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-">http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-</A> +bin/viewvc.cgi/packages/cooker/ffmpeg/current/SPECS/ffmpeg.spec?revision=612098&view=markup + +><i> So if a user wants to avoid patent constrained packages, they are +</I>><i> identified as such in PLF - but not in Mandriva. +</I> +Intentionally. I don't think Mandriva would have liked a note saying "If you +want the patent-encumbered features in this package, visit +<A HREF="http://plf.zarb.org">http://plf.zarb.org</A>", which could have been sufficiently complicit for DMCA +issues. + +><i> > This is only a suggestion (and we may have already moved past this +</I>><i> > point), but perhaps this will let us be more flexible to the end users +</I>><i> > (both DeskTop and Server). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For that point, end users could also use the install routines on the +</I>><i> distribution media, or the (rpm) package categories, to selectively +</I>><i> install Desktop and/or server packages. Both of which could use +</I>><i> improvement. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But the suggestion regarding PLF is interesting ... +</I> +No, we were looking for a more optimal solution than PLF ... +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001682.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001684.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1683">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1683">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1683">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1683">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |