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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001326.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001326.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bb38f94d4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001326.html @@ -0,0 +1,124 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101022002648.143579f3%40werewolf.home%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001335.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>J.A. Magallón</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101022002648.143579f3%40werewolf.home%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">jamagallon at ono.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 22 00:26:48 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001335.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1326">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1326">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1326">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1326">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 17:16:06 +0100, Buchan Milne <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bgmilne at multilinks.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> On Thursday, 21 October 2010 06:37:37 Olivier Thauvin wrote: +</I>><i> > * J.A. Magallón (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jamagallon at ono.com</A>) wrote: +</I>><i> > > On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 18:34:24 +0200, Olivier Thauvin +</I>... +><i> > +</I>><i> > > - could be the arch names more uniform ? in my personal scripts/setups +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > I use x86-32 and x86-64. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Is x86-32 a valid architecture for rpm etc.? While uniformity might be nice, +</I>><i> unfortunately vendors don't necessarily choose uniform architecure names, and +</I>><i> it might be better to match the repo structure to values that can be +</I>><i> determined directly (and not heuristcally) . +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I've also never seen 'uname -m' report x86-32 or x86_32. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > > Moreover, perhaps in a not so near future some +</I>><i> > > adventurous soul builds Mageia on ARM or Sparc, so why not sort things +</I>><i> > > like +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > distrib/cauldron/srpm +</I>><i> > > distrib/cauldron/x86/32/iso +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > /rpm +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > /64 +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > /arm/32 +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > /64 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I don't know if memory address space is a useful differentiator here, as +</I>><i> features differ substantially in different ARM cores of the same family or +</I>><i> architecture version. E.g., Fedora has an 'armv5tel' architecture, N900 ships +</I>><i> .deb's with 'armel' as the architecture. See +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > /sparc/32 +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > /64 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> AFAIK, the valid architecture names for sparc are sparc,sparc64,sparcv9. +</I>><i> +</I> +I was just thinking of people navigating the tree structure looking for what +to download and install. Directory names have not to be the same as RPMs +architecture, isn't it ? And is more neutral, you can decide you build the +distro for Pentium3 at least and dont have to change the folder names... ;) + +And, btw, what brain-damaged mind got the names i386 and x86_64 ? Solaris on +x86 uses i86pc (arch -k). Somebody should try to push upstream (in rpm, perhaps) +a decent naming scheme [x86,x86-32] - x86-64, [sparc,sparc-32] - sparc-64. +You said that fedora on ARM uses esoteric arch codes, couldn't be possible +to use x86-32 and try to get it into upstream RPM ? + +Looking for that info (where that thing was born), I found that this naming +scheme (x86-32,x86-64) is even described in Wikipedia: + +<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86</A> +<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_64">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_64</A> + +so it looks not so insane after all... + +-- +J.A. 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As soon we do free software people +</I>><i> > must be able to distribute our code in the same way any projects does. +</I>><i> > Replies like "svn is readable" or "we have rpm" is not appropriated. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Now come the question: "what is a valid mirror ?", eg, what a mirror +</I>><i> > should have as file to be valid ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I suggest to not give the choice and avoid mistake by saying except +</I>><i> > "peoples" a mirror must respect the whole tree to be valid. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I would also exclude software/ from regular mirror, because this may not +</I>><i> requires as much redundancy than regular mirror ( ie, I doubt many +</I>><i> people will download tarball on a regular basis, and most softwre +</I>><i> project are fine with 2 or 3 mirror ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On the other hand, it may not add much overhead to mirrors anyway. +</I> +I like the idea to centralize everything from external point of view: eg +if you find a mageia mirror, you have everything. + +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Something I would like to add is database dumps ( cleaned from password +</I>><i> and private information, of course ), and maybe svn backup, stuff like +</I>><i> that. So people who wish to fork our project will not have the same +</I>><i> problem as we did. +</I> +I was thinking to push svn on mirror. + +As potential problem, all these backup can add a lot of work and +bandwidth on mirrors. I am not against, I am in favor of this, but +just listing issues we can encoutered. + +><i> And this would also provides use with a "linus t" backup system :p +</I> +BTW: the misc-backup.rpm is taking a lot of place :)= + +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > This mean everything must exists with this structure under the top level +</I>><i> > path. +</I>><i> > This way may avoid issues like mandriva on ibiblio (only 2005 and 2007.1 +</I>><i> > seems to exists...) +</I>><i> > <A HREF="ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/mandriva/Mandrivalinux/">ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/mandriva/Mandrivalinux/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I would let people choose what they mirror based on version. Ie, someone +</I>><i> could mirror the last version only, the 3 last, etc, etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This will likely provides enough flexibility without sacrifing too much +</I>><i> the simplicity. +</I> +In fact we have no way to deny to someone to do a partial mirror. The +question is from our point of view, do we encourage people to create +non testable mirror or untrusted mirror (not update enough to ensure +last security update get sync). + +It also make difficult the listing (eg having a gazillon of url for each +distrib, which is the current problem of easyurpmi). + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101022/6b51c82e/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001335.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001328.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1327">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1327">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1327">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1327">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001328.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001328.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a40a5c0d2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001328.html @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Dxmu6TfuWXaCW0FVcSr9YGE-MCDLkUHZ5OPdyp%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001327.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001330.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Dxmu6TfuWXaCW0FVcSr9YGE-MCDLkUHZ5OPdyp%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 22 02:07:53 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001327.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001330.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1328">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1328">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1328">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1328">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/10/22 Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> In fact we have no way to deny to someone to do a partial mirror. The +</I>><i> question is from our point of view, do we encourage people to create +</I>><i> non testable mirror or untrusted mirror (not update enough to ensure +</I>><i> last security update get sync). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It also make difficult the listing (eg having a gazillon of url for each +</I>><i> distrib, which is the current problem of easyurpmi). +</I> +I think this is an easy one. Do it like it was done at Mandriva. +Define what a "valid" mirror is, then list only "valid" mirrors. +Besides that people can put up mirrors in any way they want and use +them in any way they want. They are just not listed as "official +mirrors of Mageia". +Same happened with our Mandriva mirror. I wouldn't mirror the /debug +branches, so I was told that my mirror was not official and it was +taken from the list. Everybody was happy, the maintainers of the list, +me, and all people who used my mirror (it was not crowded, even at +release time). A solution suitable for everybody. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001327.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001330.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1328">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1328">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1328">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1328">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001329.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001329.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5c498b798 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001329.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C201010220256.04563.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001334.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001336.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C201010220256.04563.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 22 02:56:04 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001334.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001336.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1329">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1329">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1329">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1329">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op donderdag 21 oktober 2010 22:38:19 schreef Olivier Thauvin: +><i> * Maarten Vanraes (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>) wrote: +</I>><i> > Op woensdag 20 oktober 2010 18:34:24 schreef Olivier Thauvin: +</I>><i> > > Hi, +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > You can find here: +</I>><i> > > <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/</A> +</I>><i> > > the current mirror tree proposal. +</I>><i> > > We now have to discuss it, I think. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > i didn't follow the whole previous discussion about the mirror tree, but +</I>><i> > would it be advisable to have a noarch subdir, next to i586 and x86_64 ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This is not on my side. The internal distribution tree structure is more +</I>><i> related to build system than the global mirror tree structure. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> At least, the tree I am suggesting neither deny it, neither make it +</I>><i> easier. +</I> +That is true, however from a globabl mirror pov; it kind of makes sense: + +suppose people would want to do the arm or other ports, the noarch packages +can be exactly the same; therefor there is no need to list the noarch packages +in i586 and having them symlinked or whatever to x86_64 which will have larger +.cz and people will need to mirror both if they want x86_64 only, etc... + +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001334.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001336.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1329">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1329">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1329">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1329">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001330.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001330.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5f6f21928 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001330.html @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C4CC0EE12.9000700%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001328.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001333.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>andré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C4CC0EE12.9000700%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 22 03:51:14 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001328.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001333.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1330">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1330">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1330">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1330">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : +><i> 2010/10/22 Olivier Thauvin<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>>: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> In fact we have no way to deny to someone to do a partial mirror. The +</I>>><i> question is from our point of view, do we encourage people to create +</I>>><i> non testable mirror or untrusted mirror (not update enough to ensure +</I>>><i> last security update get sync). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> It also make difficult the listing (eg having a gazillon of url for each +</I>>><i> distrib, which is the current problem of easyurpmi). +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> I think this is an easy one. Do it like it was done at Mandriva. +</I>><i> Define what a "valid" mirror is, then list only "valid" mirrors. +</I>><i> Besides that people can put up mirrors in any way they want and use +</I>><i> them in any way they want. They are just not listed as "official +</I>><i> mirrors of Mageia". +</I>><i> Same happened with our Mandriva mirror. I wouldn't mirror the /debug +</I>><i> branches, so I was told that my mirror was not official and it was +</I>><i> taken from the list. Everybody was happy, the maintainers of the list, +</I>><i> me, and all people who used my mirror (it was not crowded, even at +</I>><i> release time). A solution suitable for everybody. +</I>><i> +</I> +Excellent point. As you say, a solution suitable for everyone. +Although for elements which are unlikely to be useful and take up a lot +of space, it could still be useful to exclude them from the mirrors. + +A variation of this could be, for mirrors constrained by disk space, to +not keep as many older releases. For example, suppose releases are +every 6 months, supported for 3 years, for 6 supported releases. Some +mirrors might only keep 4 releases, or maybe 2, and still be considered +official mirrors by Mageia. +This would be workable, as long as Mageia required a reasonable minimum +of releases. +(I would say at least 2.) +Of course, Mageia would have to specify which mirrors only contained +some supported releases. + +my 2 cents :) +- André (andre999) +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001328.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001333.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1330">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1330">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1330">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1330">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001331.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001331.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..94665f7db --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001331.html @@ -0,0 +1,148 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C4CC0FB7F.4070604%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001336.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001332.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>andré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C4CC0FB7F.4070604%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 22 04:48:31 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001336.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001332.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1331">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1331">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1331">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1331">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +><i> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 18:34, Olivier Thauvin +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Now come the question: "what is a valid mirror ?", eg, what a mirror +</I>>><i> should have as file to be valid ? +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Not sure if we discussed in depth MirrorBrain +</I>><i> (<A HREF="http://www.mirrorbrain.org/">http://www.mirrorbrain.org/</A> ) for managing mirrors index and +</I>><i> redirections. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If we were going to use it, could we, for instance, leave mirrors some +</I>><i> liberty to mirror what branch they want (with some guidances and +</I>><i> preferences of course) and let our MirrorBrain instance check and +</I>><i> build the list of valid mirrors for the file actually requested? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This, provided that _consistent_ branches of the tree are mirrored, +</I>><i> and not only a file here, a file there. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On one hand, this would introduce at least to other things to check: +</I>><i> - having enough distributed mirrors that map the whole tree; +</I>><i> - having download/install tools take this into account. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On the other hand, this could allow more mirrors to take part in this, +</I>><i> in that it may require less storage space and less bandwidth usage. +</I>><i> +</I>This is an excellent idea, at least to some degree. +Many users (like myself) like to download ISOs, which like the release +repositories, will change every 6 months (or whatever the release period). +Otherwise they remain static, which means no maintenance for the mirror +sites. +These elements tend to have relatively large space requirements. +As well, they would have a very large demand (bandwidth) at release +time, to lessen considerably afterwards. + +The update/backport/testing/debug repositories (or whatever Mageia will +call them) are considerably smaller, but in constant flux, thus +requiring regular updates on the mirror sites. +These transient repositories would tend to have a relatively constant, +lower bandwidth demand. + +So at least static/transient would be a natural separation. +As long as the division is by Mageia's repositories, it should be +workable if mirrors select repositories on other bases. + +I think it would be useful to keep the update/backport repositories +together, since they are likely to be used together, and maybe all +transient repositories. +Having the ISOs on separate mirrors should cause no problem, as users +are likely to download an ISO by itself, one at a time. + +><i> It's not the only reason to use MirrorBrain anyway, but I wondered if +</I>><i> this could be a complementary reason. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Not sure, insights welcome. +</I>><i> +</I>After a quick look at the MirrorBrain features page, I say let's get it. + +There is a problem with the current Mandriva mirror system, using Rpmdrake. +I'm in Montréal, and the nearest Mandriva mirror is not very reliable. +It also allows only one direct download at a time. So when I download +ISOs, I go directly to another mirror, use multiple connexions, to +download the ISO relatively fast, which is fine. + +For updates and incremental downloads it is much easier to use Rpmdrake. +However, often, after having selected a package, I get an error message +saying the package could not be downloaded because of a problem with the +mirror site. +(I suspect that usually the site is just not in sync.) + +MirrorBrain seems to be the perfect solution for this problem, as well +as dealing with partial mirrors. + +Interestingly, if for some reason a mirror site cannot carry a +particular package because of restrictions imposed by the country where +it is located, MirrorBrain will be able to cope. So that simplifies the +problem of dealing with legislative/copyright/patent restrictions as well. + +So at least 3 reasons to get MirrorBrain :) +><i> Cheers, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Romain +</I>><i> +</I> +my 2 cents + +- André (andre999) + +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001336.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001332.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1331">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1331">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1331">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1331">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001332.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001332.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7e34fa2b9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001332.html @@ -0,0 +1,105 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimZhVq_9TWh7wFRqyNpH0sh%2BRWVO6%2BTM%2ByZiiNK%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001331.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001337.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimZhVq_9TWh7wFRqyNpH0sh%2BRWVO6%2BTM%2ByZiiNK%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 22 07:33:59 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001331.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001337.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1332">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1332">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1332">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1332">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 21 October 2010 22:48, Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>> wrote: +><i> * Samuel Verschelde (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">stormi at laposte.net</A>) wrote: +</I>>><i> Le jeudi 21 octobre 2010 00:44:16, Olivier Thauvin a écrit : +</I>>><i> > In a nutshell: this must be discuss. Having a people is at time just an +</I>>><i> > idea, but it solve a need I had in mandriva to provide some rpms for +</I>>><i> > testing purpose. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I don't understand very well what kind of packages would go into "people" rather than in dedicated testing media. What would be the difference ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I can give the example I had on Mandriva: I did some work on 'rpm' +</I>><i> package itself, but since breaking this pakage would have lock the whole +</I>><i> Bs I'd prefer to first have it tested by some people. +</I>><i> This directory is in this case the perfect place. At this time, +</I>><i> "testing" media did not exists thought. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Another example could be the XFCE live Cd done by some people in past, +</I>><i> hosted on distrib-coffee as mandriva where not able to push it on thier +</I>><i> mirror (this issue get solved latelly). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Pushing something on the mageia Mirror need some control. The people +</I>><i> place give the opportunity to contributors to distribute somethings w/o +</I>><i> needing "super user" privileges, but with a clear "unofficial" state. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I am pretty sure some people will find usage to it. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Regards +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Samuel Verschelde +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Olivier Thauvin +</I>><i> CNRS  -  LATMOS +</I>><i> ♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +</I>><i> +</I> +Adding to what Nanar said, the way I see it, the stuff in people/ are +like the stuff we put in <A HREF="http://kenobi.mandriva.com/~contributor-name">http://kenobi.mandriva.com/~contributor-name</A> +sometimes; i.e. rpm packages to test (e.g. during cooker freeze before +asking for a push request on maintainers@)... etc. Just it'll be a bit +of a bigger place AND it won't put a load on the build clusters +themselves rather the load will be on mirrors, which is good IMHO. + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001331.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001337.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1332">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1332">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1332">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1332">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001333.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001333.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..623ccdb9f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001333.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C1287727913.26766.2.camel%40athene%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001330.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001334.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>herman</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C1287727913.26766.2.camel%40athene%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">herman at aeronetworks.ca + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 22 08:11:53 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001330.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001334.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1333">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1333">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1333">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1333">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 17:07 -0700, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +><i> 2010/10/22 Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>>: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > In fact we have no way to deny to someone to do a partial mirror. The +</I>><i> > question is from our point of view, do we encourage people to create +</I>><i> > non testable mirror or untrusted mirror (not update enough to ensure +</I>><i> > last security update get sync). +</I>><i> Besides that people can put up mirrors in any way they want and use +</I>><i> them in any way they want. They are just not listed as "official +</I>><i> mirrors of Mageia". +</I>><i> Everybody was happy, the maintainers of the list, +</I>><i> me, and all people who used my mirror (it was not crowded, even at +</I>><i> release time). A solution suitable for everybody. +</I>So should we have an 'Official mirror list' and an 'Unofficial mirror +list'? Because a mirror that is not listed at all, is rather hard to +find. + + + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001330.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001334.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1333">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1333">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1333">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1333">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001334.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001334.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..af746d403 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001334.html @@ -0,0 +1,84 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DOdCczsjWK6MS8S%2BSyt2-ZB-TYvm4rkpsVU1Xk%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001333.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001329.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DOdCczsjWK6MS8S%2BSyt2-ZB-TYvm4rkpsVU1Xk%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 22 08:18:08 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001333.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001329.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1334">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1334">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1334">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1334">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 22 October 2010 08:11, herman <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">herman at aeronetworks.ca</A>> wrote: +><i> On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 17:07 -0700, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +</I>>><i> 2010/10/22 Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>>: +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > In fact we have no way to deny to someone to do a partial mirror. The +</I>>><i> > question is from our point of view, do we encourage people to create +</I>>><i> > non testable mirror or untrusted mirror (not update enough to ensure +</I>>><i> > last security update get sync). +</I>>><i> Besides that people can put up mirrors in any way they want and use +</I>>><i> them in any way they want. They are just not listed as "official +</I>>><i> mirrors of Mageia". +</I>>><i> Everybody was happy, the maintainers of the list, +</I>>><i> me, and all people who used my mirror (it was not crowded, even at +</I>>><i> release time). A solution suitable for everybody. +</I>><i> So should we have an 'Official mirror list' and an 'Unofficial mirror +</I>><i> list'?  Because a mirror that is not listed at all, is rather hard to +</I>><i> find. +</I>><i> +</I> +I think wobo meant "local" mirrors, e.g. the mandrivauser.de mirror +was mainly used by German users who found out about it from +mandrivauser.de forums. (and having a list of "unofficial mirrors" +will be a pain, how would one differentiate "unofficial" mirrors that +just don't mirror some sub-trees, e.g. debug, and "unofficial" mirrors +that are just plain old/don't-get-synced-regularly). + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001333.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001329.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1334">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1334">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1334">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1334">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001335.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001335.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f729f840e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001335.html @@ -0,0 +1,119 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C1287728383.19455.2.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001326.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001327.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C1287728383.19455.2.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 22 08:19:43 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001326.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001327.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1335">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1335">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1335">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1335">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le vendredi 22 octobre 2010 à 00:26 +0200, J.A. Magallón a écrit : +><i> On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 17:16:06 +0100, Buchan Milne <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bgmilne at multilinks.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > On Thursday, 21 October 2010 06:37:37 Olivier Thauvin wrote: +</I>><i> > > * J.A. Magallón (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jamagallon at ono.com</A>) wrote: +</I>><i> > > > On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 18:34:24 +0200, Olivier Thauvin +</I>><i> ... +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > > - could be the arch names more uniform ? in my personal scripts/setups +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > I use x86-32 and x86-64. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Is x86-32 a valid architecture for rpm etc.? While uniformity might be nice, +</I>><i> > unfortunately vendors don't necessarily choose uniform architecure names, and +</I>><i> > it might be better to match the repo structure to values that can be +</I>><i> > determined directly (and not heuristcally) . +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I've also never seen 'uname -m' report x86-32 or x86_32. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > > > Moreover, perhaps in a not so near future some +</I>><i> > > > adventurous soul builds Mageia on ARM or Sparc, so why not sort things +</I>><i> > > > like +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > distrib/cauldron/srpm +</I>><i> > > > distrib/cauldron/x86/32/iso +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > /rpm +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > /64 +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > /arm/32 +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > /64 +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I don't know if memory address space is a useful differentiator here, as +</I>><i> > features differ substantially in different ARM cores of the same family or +</I>><i> > architecture version. E.g., Fedora has an 'armv5tel' architecture, N900 ships +</I>><i> > .deb's with 'armel' as the architecture. See +</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture</A> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > /sparc/32 +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > /64 +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > AFAIK, the valid architecture names for sparc are sparc,sparc64,sparcv9. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I was just thinking of people navigating the tree structure looking for what +</I>><i> to download and install. Directory names have not to be the same as RPMs +</I>><i> architecture, isn't it ? And is more neutral, you can decide you build the +</I>><i> distro for Pentium3 at least and dont have to change the folder names... ;) +</I>><i> +</I> +This will have a impact on the usability of the $ARCH keyword in url for +urpmi. Ie, the name must be derived from what we use for name of arch in +rpm, given the way this feature was coded. + +Which in turn is arbitrary, iirc, but we may need to keep compatibility +with previous mandriva version, as we plan to offer a upgrade path. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001326.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001327.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1335">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1335">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1335">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1335">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001336.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001336.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..16a68ad23 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001336.html @@ -0,0 +1,105 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101022143648.GC4319%40shikamaru.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001329.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001331.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Remy CLOUARD</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101022143648.GC4319%40shikamaru.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">shikamaru at mandriva.org + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 22 16:36:48 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001329.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001331.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1336">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1336">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1336">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1336">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 02:56:04AM +0200, Maarten Vanraes wrote: +><i> Op donderdag 21 oktober 2010 22:38:19 schreef Olivier Thauvin: +</I>><i> > * Maarten Vanraes (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>) wrote: +</I>><i> > > Op woensdag 20 oktober 2010 18:34:24 schreef Olivier Thauvin: +</I>><i> > > > Hi, +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > You can find here: +</I>><i> > > > <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/</A> +</I>><i> > > > the current mirror tree proposal. +</I>><i> > > > We now have to discuss it, I think. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > i didn't follow the whole previous discussion about the mirror tree, but +</I>><i> > > would it be advisable to have a noarch subdir, next to i586 and x86_64 ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > This is not on my side. The internal distribution tree structure is more +</I>><i> > related to build system than the global mirror tree structure. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > At least, the tree I am suggesting neither deny it, neither make it +</I>><i> > easier. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That is true, however from a globabl mirror pov; it kind of makes sense: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> suppose people would want to do the arm or other ports, the noarch packages +</I>><i> can be exactly the same; therefor there is no need to list the noarch packages +</I>><i> in i586 and having them symlinked or whatever to x86_64 which will have larger +</I>><i> .cz and people will need to mirror both if they want x86_64 only, etc... +</I>Actually, that’s exactly the point where it’s uncomfortable to have +noarch outside the arch tree. + +If we only had i586 and x86_64 things would be quite simple, because +packages are built at the same time. Now consider more exotic arch: You +have to have machines that will compile for this arch. The problem is +that they might be lagging behind a bit if they’re not powerful enough, +or if we don’t have a sufficient number of machines. + +If some noarch packages depend on arch dependant packages, and these +packages are not uptodate for arch $foo, that will lead to broken +packages in this arch. + +Thus, having noarch packages outside the $foo tree is not feasible at +the moment. + +Please also note that cross-compile is not an option either (but I’m not +an expert in this area to explain it in details). + +Regards, +-- +Rémy CLOUARD +() ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail +/\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001329.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001331.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1336">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1336">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1336">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1336">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001337.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001337.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a18d7b540 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001337.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101022143714.GD4319%40shikamaru.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001332.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001338.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Remy CLOUARD</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101022143714.GD4319%40shikamaru.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">shikamaru at mandriva.org + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 22 16:37:14 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001332.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001338.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1337">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1337">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1337">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1337">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:55:32PM +0200, Renaud MICHEL wrote: +><i> On jeudi 21 octobre 2010 at 21:36, Remy CLOUARD wrote : +</I>><i> > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:44:16AM +0200, Olivier Thauvin wrote: +</I>><i> > > I don't know any process to deny someone to push hdlists and rpms. +</I>><i> > > However I don't think it is a good idea to use this space as an +</I>><i> > > alternative to oficial mageia. The risk is to confuse people. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Well, I don’t think it’s about confusing people, after all these +</I>><i> > packages are in a different subtree than regular packages, rather +</I>><i> > giving choice. I know at least one person who said on #mageia-de that +</I>><i> > mageia would be a no-go for him if he couldn’t have awesome. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> awesome is already in mandriva, why wouldn't it be in mageia? +</I>><i> If there is someone willing to package it, he may as well do it in the core +</I>><i> repository (be it main or contrib, or whatever they will be called). +</I>This is off-topic, I was just taking awesome as an example. + +Awesome in current Mandriva is outdated (v2.3.6) whereas 3.4.8 was +released. It’s just like comparing kde3 or kde4. + +Regards, +-- +Rémy CLOUARD +() ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail +/\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 230 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101022/dbe4a34b/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001332.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001338.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1337">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1337">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1337">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1337">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001338.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001338.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..060ede646 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/001338.html @@ -0,0 +1,63 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikkqAVKAGcS5J2hQYJEDgBrDpfG1R8woGMcVBc8%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001337.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikkqAVKAGcS5J2hQYJEDgBrDpfG1R8woGMcVBc8%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 22 16:48:16 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001337.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1338">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1338">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1338">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1338">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>There has always been the occasional user who needs just this special +application. Instead of telling the world that $DISTRO is not for him +if it does not serve this special app he can always ask a packager to +pack it. + +Many communities do have a "Package Requests" section in their forums +for such occasions. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001337.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1338">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1338">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1338">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1338">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..25d2d046d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101022/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,112 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-dev 22 October 2010 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>22 October 2010 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Oct 22 00:26:48 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Oct 22 16:48:16 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 13<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="001328.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A><A NAME="1328"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001338.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A><A NAME="1338"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001336.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A><A NAME="1336"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001337.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A><A NAME="1337"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001326.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A><A NAME="1326"> </A> +<I>J.A. 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