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It allow to check is a mirror synced or not +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Comparing to mandriva there is no more split between devel/stable, all +</I>><i> > distributions goes into distribs/ and all isos file into iso/. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> I've seen that the distribs directory has sub-directory called stable1 +</I>><i> and cauldron, will this sub-directory will be present in iso/ too ? +</I> +As soon stable1 means "our first distrib" yes, but I don't think +cauldron will be needed under iso/. + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101021/976018cc/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001320.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1301">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1301">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1301">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1301">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001302.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001302.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1568e90b9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001302.html @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101020223234.GK7479%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001323.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001303.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101020223234.GK7479%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 00:32:34 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001323.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001303.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1302">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1302">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1302">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1302">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>* Wolfgang Bornath (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>) wrote: +><i> 2010/10/20 Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>>: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I read the FM but I thought it may be outdated because it was written +</I>><i> > almost 3 weeks before this new information about the tree structure +</I>><i> > was posted. 3 weeks in this stage means a looooong time.... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If the readme is showing realistic numbers I am afraid our server +</I>><i> can't act as mirror because we only have 2x500 GB harddisks. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Currently we are mirroring Mandriva 2009.1, 2010.0 and 2010.1 - +</I>><i> altogether 360G (without Cooker). We were ready to reduce this to the +</I>><i> current Mandriva version to make place for Mageia. But 700 is too +</I>><i> much, sorry. +</I> +I am not sure our mirror will reach 700MB but sice the current cooker +tree is near of 80Go (w/o iso), and if I take as base 2 release per +year, then I obtain 700GB in three years. + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101021/ccd44599/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001323.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001303.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1302">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1302">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1302">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1302">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001303.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001303.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..773daecd1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001303.html @@ -0,0 +1,67 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin7BqpRF7q9Mx0svbqSgmO3XT0na0BfFChO%3DQ%2B6%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001302.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001305.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin7BqpRF7q9Mx0svbqSgmO3XT0na0BfFChO%3DQ%2B6%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 00:41:57 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001302.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001305.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1303">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1303">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1303">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1303">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/10/21 Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> I am not sure our mirror will reach 700MB but sice the current cooker +</I>><i> tree is near of 80Go (w/o iso), and if I take as base 2 release per +</I>><i> year, then I obtain 700GB in three years. +</I> +So 350Go would be enough for the current version plus the previous 2 +versions (including ISOs). Would that be a "valid" mirror? +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001302.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001305.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1303">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1303">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1303">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1303">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001304.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001304.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..24341782b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001304.html @@ -0,0 +1,129 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101020224416.GL7479%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001316.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001315.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101020224416.GL7479%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 00:44:16 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001316.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001315.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1304">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1304">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1304">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1304">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>* Remy CLOUARD (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">shikamaru at mandriva.org</A>) wrote: +><i> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 06:34:24PM +0200, Olivier Thauvin wrote: +</I>><i> > Hi, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > The peoples/ directory is dedicated to contributors and must allow +</I>><i> > anyone to share files related to the distribution (testing rpms, +</I>><i> > preworks) in an unofficial ways. +</I>><i> > How this can be setup in practice still have to be discuss. +</I>><i> Hi, I would like to ask some details about this: +</I>><i> As some of you might know, I’m using awesome for a window manager and +</I>><i> have been providing RPMS for quite some time for it on my website. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> May I use the peoples repository to provide it as well as a customized +</I>><i> cairo (with xcb enabled) ? +</I> +As a mirror manager I say yes: I'll discuss with sys-admin team about +how we can setup this, with a per user disk space limit (to avoid +issue). + +From a project point of view it is veey different. The mirror tree is +what some people will see about Mageia and I do think: +- people content must be related to mageia +- everything that can be included in the distrib must provide as RPMs + using BS +- people content must respect our policies. + +In a nutshell: this must be discuss. Having a people is at time just an +idea, but it solve a need I had in mandriva to provide some rpms for +testing purpose. + +><i> +</I>><i> Will users be able to add this as another repository ? +</I> +I don't know any process to deny someone to push hdlists and rpms. +However I don't think it is a good idea to use this space as an +alternative to oficial mageia. The risk is to confuse people. + +Also, I'd like to notice this space is not a way to provide your own +project, there is platform for that (sourceforge, zarb, gnu, etc...) + +><i> +</I>><i> I must admit the process was quite painful for me up till now, this +</I>><i> sounds to me like an easy way to provide and maintain this RPM. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If we switch to git for the VCS, I would just make my own branch on top +</I>><i> of the regular cairo/awesome branch, and it would definitely ease this +</I>><i> process. WDYT ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards, +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Rémy CLOUARD +</I>><i> () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail +</I>><i> /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments +</I> + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101021/3997dda6/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001316.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001315.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1304">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1304">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1304">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1304">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001305.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001305.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..422d27ede --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001305.html @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101020224754.GM7479%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001303.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001306.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101020224754.GM7479%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 00:47:54 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001303.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001306.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1305">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1305">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1305">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1305">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>* Wolfgang Bornath (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>) wrote: +><i> 2010/10/21 Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>>: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I am not sure our mirror will reach 700MB but sice the current cooker +</I>><i> > tree is near of 80Go (w/o iso), and if I take as base 2 release per +</I>><i> > year, then I obtain 700GB in three years. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So 350Go would be enough for the current version plus the previous 2 +</I>><i> versions (including ISOs). Would that be a "valid" mirror? +</I> +If the rules I suggested are applied and at time, yes. +But be aware the tree will grow release after release. + +I am waiting the release cycle to be defined to know how much space +we'll need. If we choose to do only one release per year, the 700GB size +will occur only in 6 years. And if we don't import all rpms for mandriva +the size need will be less again. + +Regards. + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101021/3896340f/attachment-0001.asc> +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001303.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001306.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1305">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1305">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1305">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1305">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001306.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001306.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a0d5e28d4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001306.html @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DZK_hYDgbFxRdYFUrf_iEoL8fWZYE5SMg4wM5S%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001305.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001316.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DZK_hYDgbFxRdYFUrf_iEoL8fWZYE5SMg4wM5S%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 01:05:02 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001305.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001316.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1306">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1306">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1306">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1306">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/10/21 Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> I am waiting the release cycle to be defined to know how much space +</I>><i> we'll need. If we choose to do only one release per year, the 700GB size +</I>><i> will occur only in 6 years. And if we don't import all rpms for mandriva +</I>><i> the size need will be less again. +</I> +Yes, there are some variables not yet defined but at least for the +first 3-4 releases our space will do :) + +Thx for explaining. Suggestion: I think it will avoid other people +having the same question if you add a short sentence to the readme +explaining that the 700Go is the cumulated size for 3 years :) + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001305.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001316.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1306">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1306">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1306">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1306">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001307.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001307.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2675cbee5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001307.html @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DOWDy8k8Zz09JdVumVP%3Dk37RFfQSt6Djj0hiSb%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001324.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001308.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?</H1> + <B>Robert Xu</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DOWDy8k8Zz09JdVumVP%3Dk37RFfQSt6Djj0hiSb%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?">robxu9 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 01:39:35 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001324.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001308.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1307">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1307">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1307">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1307">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 17:30, Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> 2010/10/20 Gustavo Giampaoli <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>>><i> 2010/10/20 Tux99 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>>: +</I>>>><i> I hope you are not serious about this. Creepy unique identifiers (or any +</I>>>><i> other tracking method) have absolutely no place in a FOSS community OS. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Only if the default option is "NOT" enabled and system asks the user +</I>>><i> "if he/she wants to collaborate with anonymous statistics" and +</I>>><i> something like "if you don't know, use the default option NO". +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Don't know you, but I don't feel "hurt" nor feel my freedom violated +</I>>><i> if it lets me choose. Different from Windows that does whatever MS +</I>>><i> says without ask. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The problem is that according to Robert's suggestion you do not have +</I>><i> this choice if you want to file a bug report. I fear you will not get +</I>><i> that many bug reports from privacy aware users if this system is used. +</I>><i> +</I> +wait, what? I did not say that. What I am saying is that you have a choice, +just that for newbies you shouldn't have to learn how to sign up for a +bugzilla account and such... That would make Mageia look bug-prone, +in my opinion. + +-- +later, Robert Xu +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001324.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001308.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1307">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1307">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1307">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1307">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001308.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001308.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..24554159a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001308.html @@ -0,0 +1,118 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101021014323.009d70d3%40werewolf.home%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001307.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001311.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>J.A. Magallón</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101021014323.009d70d3%40werewolf.home%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">jamagallon at ono.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 01:43:23 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001307.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001311.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1308">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1308">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1308">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1308">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 18:34:24 +0200, Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>> wrote: + +><i> Hi, +</I>... +><i> +</I>><i> Now come the question: "what is a valid mirror ?", eg, what a mirror +</I>><i> should have as file to be valid ? +</I>><i> +</I> +Some ideas (probably silly ;)). + +Why don't you split mirrors in 2 categories: +- Software (RPM) repo mirrors, available for network install or urpmi. + (distrib+people+software). +- ISO mirrors. Avaliable for torrenting or ftp. MDV2010.1 release isos are + about 15Gb. With 2 releases per year, thats 30Gb per year, 200 Gb on 6 + years. Some places can just mirror this...you lower the 700Gb to 500, + not bad. + +so mirroring can be done by version (or was this what you wanted to avoid?). + +BTW +<nitpickin> +- could you kill the final 's' on all the names ? + distribs -> distrib + iso (you didnt named it 'isos') + peoples -> people + software (not softwares) +- could you not mix case in names (SRPMS <-> x86_64), just srpms... +- could be the arch names more uniform ? in my personal scripts/setups + I use x86-32 and x86-64. Moreover, perhaps in a not so near future some + adventurous soul builds Mageia on ARM or Sparc, so why not sort things + like + distrib/cauldron/srpm + distrib/cauldron/x86/32/iso + /rpm + /64 + /arm/32 + /64 + /sparc/32 + /64 + The drawback is that ISOs are in the same tree so no separate mirroring + is possible, but I think you didn't want this anyways. + +All this renaming in case it is not some kind of standard for tree layout +or the like... +</nitpickin> + +Just my 2€cent, you will judge... + +-- +J.A. 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It's usually irresponsible to backport a +</I>>><i> package without taking that package maintainer's opinion into account. +</I>>><i> (an infamous example on that is gwibber being backported to 2010.1). +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> I agree it should be preferably the maintainer doing the backport, or he +</I>><i> should at least be consulted. +</I>><i> +</I>I think that should be an explicit policy of Mageia. +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> New users who frequented the forums always got to know what backports +</I>>><i> are pretty fast. And bugzilla is the perfect system for asking for a +</I>>><i> backport, that worked pretty good. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> The wast majority of 'normal' users never uses the forum. +</I>><i> Backports shouldn't be something that only users who frequent the forum +</I>><i> find out about. +</I>><i> +</I>True. Although I suspect that they are more likely to use the forum +than formally make a bug report. +>><i> That's they way backports has always worked, no specific patches, just +</I>>><i> the latest cooker package pushed to backports "as is with no official +</I>>><i> support", that's reasonable, packagers shouldn't promise to support +</I>>><i> backports when they can't due to various reasons (time, effort.. etc). +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> But IMHO that should change in Mageia, we should promise support by the way +</I>><i> of timely updates, especially when security issues are present. +</I>><i> +</I>That can only change if we have more ressources. At least at first, we +risk to have somewhat less, without the financial input from the +commercial side that exists for Mandriva. +>>><i> Backports shouldn't be second choice, it should be the default, +</I>>>><i> since that +</I>>>><i> would make Mageia stand out from other distros as being the distro +</I>>>><i> were +</I>>>><i> users get the latest versions of apps before any other major +</I>>>><i> distro +</I>>>><i> provides them. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> Enabling them by default defies the purpose of having backports at +</I>>><i> all; it's not for new users, it's more for slightly experienced users +</I>>><i> or power users who want the latest versions of apps. +</I>>><i> +</I>Agreed. +><i> That's exactly the crucial bit that IMHO needs to change, backports are +</I>><i> very interesting for 'normal' users so we should make sure normal users +</I>><i> can use them. +</I>><i> Don't you see how attractive it is especially for 'normal' users to have +</I>><i> access to the latest versions all the time? +</I>><i> +</I>I would expect that 'normal' users would be most concerned that the +system just work. +The 'latest versions' is more a preoccupation of a minority of at least +moderately experienced users, who probably also like trying out all +sorts of new software. +Not at all typical of the population in general, but admittedly more +common among Linux users. + +><i> Sure, not everyone wants them, but by integrating the skip.list in the +</I>><i> update GUI we could keep 'conservative' users happy too +</I>That would certainly help, and not just for 'conservative' users. Often +a particular package only has problems on some systems. A more readily +accessible skip.list blacklist would make it easier to avoid accidently +re-installing a package that didn't work as expected the first time, for +whatever reason. + +- André (andre999) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001314.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001310.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1309">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1309">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1309">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1309">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001310.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001310.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7d7372984 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001310.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CBFBE8C.3080803%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001309.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001312.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?</H1> + <B>andré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CBFBE8C.3080803%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 06:16:12 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001309.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001312.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1310">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1310">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1310">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1310">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Fernando Parra a écrit : +><i> On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 01:44:29 +0200 +</I>><i> Michael Scherer<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc-QFiJtcdG+fw at public.gmane.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> I do not think I am ok to be counted in the "we" you use. I do not think +</I>>><i> I want, nor that I will even try to get a considerable number of new +</I>>><i> users, I want a sustainable number of users that can be properly taught +</I>>><i> of free software way and ecosystem, so they can be later part of the +</I>>><i> community as people who help us in very direct way. And that's what I +</I>>><i> will try to do. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> -- +</I>>><i> Michael Scherer +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> There are a biological law: Grow up in population or die, as simple as that. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards from Mexico +</I>><i> +</I> +Also known as the lemming principle. +(The rodents that suicide en masse every few years as their answer to +overpopulation.) + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001309.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001312.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1310">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1310">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1310">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1310">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001311.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001311.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..969a76f8b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001311.html @@ -0,0 +1,154 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101021053736.GN7479%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001308.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001314.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101021053736.GN7479%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 07:37:37 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001308.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001314.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1311">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1311">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1311">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1311">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>* J.A. Magallón (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jamagallon at ono.com</A>) wrote: +><i> On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 18:34:24 +0200, Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Hi, +</I>><i> ... +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Now come the question: "what is a valid mirror ?", eg, what a mirror +</I>><i> > should have as file to be valid ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Some ideas (probably silly ;)). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Why don't you split mirrors in 2 categories: +</I>><i> - Software (RPM) repo mirrors, available for network install or urpmi. +</I>><i> (distrib+people+software). +</I>><i> - ISO mirrors. Avaliable for torrenting or ftp. MDV2010.1 release isos are +</I>><i> about 15Gb. With 2 releases per year, thats 30Gb per year, 200 Gb on 6 +</I>><i> years. Some places can just mirror this...you lower the 700Gb to 500, +</I>><i> not bad. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> so mirroring can be done by version (or was this what you wanted to avoid?). +</I> +Yes, I tried to avoid it because I perfectly know mirrors will take care +to mirror new version every 6 months (ibiblio example again, nobody had +a look for several years, at least since 2008). + +><i> +</I>><i> BTW +</I>><i> <nitpickin> +</I>><i> - could you kill the final 's' on all the names ? +</I>><i> distribs -> distrib +</I> +Done + +><i> iso (you didnt named it 'isos') +</I>><i> peoples -> people +</I> +Done + +><i> software (not softwares) +</I> +Is already 'software' + +><i> - could you not mix case in names (SRPMS <-> x86_64), just srpms... +</I> +This part depend on BS and how this team working on it will organise the +distrib. I'll suggest them. + +><i> - could be the arch names more uniform ? in my personal scripts/setups +</I>><i> I use x86-32 and x86-64. Moreover, perhaps in a not so near future some +</I>><i> adventurous soul builds Mageia on ARM or Sparc, so why not sort things +</I>><i> like +</I>><i> distrib/cauldron/srpm +</I>><i> distrib/cauldron/x86/32/iso +</I>><i> /rpm +</I>><i> /64 +</I>><i> /arm/32 +</I>><i> /64 +</I>><i> /sparc/32 +</I>><i> /64 +</I> +This depend again on BS part. + +><i> The drawback is that ISOs are in the same tree so no separate mirroring +</I>><i> is possible, but I think you didn't want this anyways. +</I> +I'll take care to this. + +><i> +</I>><i> All this renaming in case it is not some kind of standard for tree layout +</I>><i> or the like... +</I>><i> </nitpickin> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Just my 2€cent, you will judge... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> J.A. 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+ +This, provided that _consistent_ branches of the tree are mirrored, +and not only a file here, a file there. + +On one hand, this would introduce at least to other things to check: + - having enough distributed mirrors that map the whole tree; + - having download/install tools take this into account. + +On the other hand, this could allow more mirrors to take part in this, +in that it may require less storage space and less bandwidth usage. + +It's not the only reason to use MirrorBrain anyway, but I wondered if +this could be a complementary reason. + +Not sure, insights welcome. + + +Cheers, + +Romain +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001310.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001313.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1312">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1312">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1312">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1312">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001313.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001313.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2c4a6e9c4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001313.html @@ -0,0 +1,122 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C201010211936.07276.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001312.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001318.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C201010211936.07276.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 19:36:07 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001312.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001318.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1313">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1313">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1313">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1313">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op woensdag 20 oktober 2010 18:34:24 schreef Olivier Thauvin: +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You can find here: +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/</A> +</I>><i> the current mirror tree proposal. +</I>><i> We now have to discuss it, I think. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Here notes: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The 'mageia_timestamp' is a file updated on the main server every 5 +</I>><i> minutes. It allow to check is a mirror synced or not +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Comparing to mandriva there is no more split between devel/stable, all +</I>><i> distributions goes into distribs/ and all isos file into iso/. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The updates/ tree disapear, avoiding some possible dependencies issues +</I>><i> in updates rpms. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The peoples/ directory is dedicated to contributors and must allow +</I>><i> anyone to share files related to the distribution (testing rpms, +</I>><i> preworks) in an unofficial ways. +</I>><i> How this can be setup in practice still have to be discuss. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Finally the software/ directory should allow you to distribute the +</I>><i> tarball (not rpm) for software we do. As soon we do free software people +</I>><i> must be able to distribute our code in the same way any projects does. +</I>><i> Replies like "svn is readable" or "we have rpm" is not appropriated. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Now come the question: "what is a valid mirror ?", eg, what a mirror +</I>><i> should have as file to be valid ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I suggest to not give the choice and avoid mistake by saying except +</I>><i> "peoples" a mirror must respect the whole tree to be valid. +</I>><i> This mean everything must exists with this structure under the top level +</I>><i> path. +</I>><i> This way may avoid issues like mandriva on ibiblio (only 2005 and 2007.1 +</I>><i> seems to exists...) +</I>><i> <A HREF="ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/mandriva/Mandrivalinux/">ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/mandriva/Mandrivalinux/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Comment and idea welcome. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards. +</I> + +i didn't follow the whole previous discussion about the mirror tree, but would +it be advisable to have a noarch subdir, next to i586 and x86_64 ? + +it would mean that if you use i586, you'd need noarch too; and the same thing +with x86_64; but imo, the setup might use a little less storage or it'd be +easier set up; and less hacks required? + +if you'd do a dual arch CD; you could easily have noarch, i586 and x86_64 next +to eachother; imo. + +also, if we split up more packages to use noarch for content stuff or xxx-doc +subpackages or whatever... +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001312.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001318.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1313">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1313">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1313">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1313">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001314.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001314.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9da3e4032 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001314.html @@ -0,0 +1,204 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C201010211716.06866.bgmilne%40multilinks.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001311.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001309.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Buchan Milne</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C201010211716.06866.bgmilne%40multilinks.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">bgmilne at multilinks.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 18:16:06 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001311.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001309.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1314">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1314">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1314">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1314">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thursday, 21 October 2010 06:37:37 Olivier Thauvin wrote: +><i> * J.A. Magallón (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jamagallon at ono.com</A>) wrote: +</I>><i> > On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 18:34:24 +0200, Olivier Thauvin +</I><<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>> wrote: +><i> > > Hi, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > ... +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > > Now come the question: "what is a valid mirror ?", eg, what a mirror +</I>><i> > > should have as file to be valid ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Some ideas (probably silly ;)). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Why don't you split mirrors in 2 categories: +</I>><i> > - Software (RPM) repo mirrors, available for network install or urpmi. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > (distrib+people+software). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > - ISO mirrors. Avaliable for torrenting or ftp. MDV2010.1 release isos +</I>><i> > are +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > about 15Gb. With 2 releases per year, thats 30Gb per year, 200 Gb on 6 +</I>><i> > years. Some places can just mirror this...you lower the 700Gb to 500, +</I>><i> > not bad. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > so mirroring can be done by version (or was this what you wanted to +</I>><i> > avoid?). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes, I tried to avoid it because I perfectly know mirrors will take care +</I>><i> to mirror new version every 6 months (ibiblio example again, nobody had +</I>><i> a look for several years, at least since 2008). +</I> +This will result in fewer mirrors (those that cannot or choose not to dedicate +~ 1TiB). I would rather consider other solutions to this problem. On my own +mirror (which has a total of 820GB available at present), I use exclude +options to rsync in my mirror scripts (but, I have to change these after each +release). + +Maybe instead we could provide exclude-list files on the mirror, so mirror +maintainers can use --exclude-from=/path/to/mageia/mirror_cfg/old_releases.cfg + +Also, in order to try and expedite getting what most users need out to mirrors +first, I would prefer either: +-development tree separate from releases +-development release should be selected last by mirroring tools (e.g. follow +alphabetically all stable releases if not separate) + + +><i> +</I>><i> > BTW +</I>><i> > <nitpickin> +</I>><i> > - could you kill the final 's' on all the names ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > distribs -> distrib +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Done +</I> +Maybe 'releases' or 'release' instead? + +><i> +</I>><i> > iso (you didnt named it 'isos') +</I>><i> > peoples -> people +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Done +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > software (not softwares) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Is already 'software' +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > - could you not mix case in names (SRPMS <-> x86_64), just srpms... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This part depend on BS and how this team working on it will organise the +</I>><i> distrib. I'll suggest them. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > - could be the arch names more uniform ? in my personal scripts/setups +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I use x86-32 and x86-64. +</I> +Is x86-32 a valid architecture for rpm etc.? While uniformity might be nice, +unfortunately vendors don't necessarily choose uniform architecure names, and +it might be better to match the repo structure to values that can be +determined directly (and not heuristcally) . + +I've also never seen 'uname -m' report x86-32 or x86_32. + +><i> > Moreover, perhaps in a not so near future some +</I>><i> > adventurous soul builds Mageia on ARM or Sparc, so why not sort things +</I>><i> > like +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > distrib/cauldron/srpm +</I>><i> > distrib/cauldron/x86/32/iso +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > /rpm +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > /64 +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > /arm/32 +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > /64 +</I> +I don't know if memory address space is a useful differentiator here, as +features differ substantially in different ARM cores of the same family or +architecture version. E.g., Fedora has an 'armv5tel' architecture, N900 ships +.deb's with 'armel' as the architecture. See +<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture</A> + +><i> > +</I>><i> > /sparc/32 +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > /64 +</I> +AFAIK, the valid architecture names for sparc are sparc,sparc64,sparcv9. + +><i> +</I>><i> This depend again on BS part. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > The drawback is that ISOs are in the same tree so no separate mirroring +</I>><i> > is possible, but I think you didn't want this anyways. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'll take care to this. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > All this renaming in case it is not some kind of standard for tree layout +</I>><i> > or the like... +</I>><i> > </nitpickin> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Just my 2€cent, you will judge... +</I> +The readme file mentions that mirrors must sync every 2 hours. For tier1 +mirrors, I would agree, however you may need to stagger sync intervals to +lower tiers (e.g. 4 hours at tier2 and 12 hours at tier3). + +It may be worthwhile to try and estimate the actual rsync bandwidth that must +be achieved to make a specific tier. + +(I am not able to sync every 2 hours, probably not 4, maybe 12, though my +mirror currently syncs daily - for Mandriva I could sync 'official' more +regularly, but not 'devel'). + + +Regards, +Buchan +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001311.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001309.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1314">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1314">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1314">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1314">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001315.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001315.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9b0e925a2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001315.html @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C201010212055.20928.stormi%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001304.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001321.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C201010212055.20928.stormi%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">stormi at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 20:55:20 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001304.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001321.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1315">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1315">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1315">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1315">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le jeudi 21 octobre 2010 00:44:16, Olivier Thauvin a écrit : +><i> In a nutshell: this must be discuss. Having a people is at time just an +</I>><i> idea, but it solve a need I had in mandriva to provide some rpms for +</I>><i> testing purpose. +</I> +I don't understand very well what kind of packages would go into "people" rather than in dedicated testing media. What would be the difference ? + +Regards + +Samuel Verschelde +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001304.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001321.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1315">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1315">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1315">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1315">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001316.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001316.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c215b7a76 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001316.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C201010212056.58090.stormi%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001306.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001304.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C201010212056.58090.stormi%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">stormi at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 20:56:58 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001306.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001304.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1316">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1316">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1316">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1316">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le jeudi 21 octobre 2010 00:47:54, Olivier Thauvin a écrit : +><i> * Wolfgang Bornath (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>) wrote: +</I>><i> > 2010/10/21 Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>>: +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > I am not sure our mirror will reach 700MB but sice the current cooker +</I>><i> > > tree is near of 80Go (w/o iso), and if I take as base 2 release per +</I>><i> > > year, then I obtain 700GB in three years. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > So 350Go would be enough for the current version plus the previous 2 +</I>><i> > versions (including ISOs). Would that be a "valid" mirror? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If the rules I suggested are applied and at time, yes. +</I>><i> But be aware the tree will grow release after release. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I am waiting the release cycle to be defined to know how much space +</I>><i> we'll need. If we choose to do only one release per year, the 700GB size +</I>><i> will occur only in 6 years. And if we don't import all rpms for mandriva +</I>><i> the size need will be less again. +</I> +If we choose to do only one release per year, the backports media may grow faster, but indeed probably less rapidly than a whole release tree. + +Samuel +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001306.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001304.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1316">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1316">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1316">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1316">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001317.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001317.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a3da64f59 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001317.html @@ -0,0 +1,142 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101021193649.GA4319%40shikamaru.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001321.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001322.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Remy CLOUARD</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101021193649.GA4319%40shikamaru.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">shikamaru at mandriva.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 21:36:49 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001321.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001322.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1317">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1317">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1317">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1317">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:44:16AM +0200, Olivier Thauvin wrote: +><i> * Remy CLOUARD (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">shikamaru at mandriva.org</A>) wrote: +</I>><i> > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 06:34:24PM +0200, Olivier Thauvin wrote: +</I>><i> > > Hi, +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > The peoples/ directory is dedicated to contributors and must allow +</I>><i> > > anyone to share files related to the distribution (testing rpms, +</I>><i> > > preworks) in an unofficial ways. +</I>><i> > > How this can be setup in practice still have to be discuss. +</I>><i> > Hi, I would like to ask some details about this: +</I>><i> > As some of you might know, I’m using awesome for a window manager and +</I>><i> > have been providing RPMS for quite some time for it on my website. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > May I use the peoples repository to provide it as well as a customized +</I>><i> > cairo (with xcb enabled) ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As a mirror manager I say yes: I'll discuss with sys-admin team about +</I>><i> how we can setup this, with a per user disk space limit (to avoid +</I>><i> issue). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> From a project point of view it is veey different. The mirror tree is +</I>><i> what some people will see about Mageia and I do think: +</I>><i> - people content must be related to mageia +</I>Well, RPMS compiled for mageia are by definition related to mageia :-) +><i> - everything that can be included in the distrib must provide as RPMs +</I>><i> using BS +</I>Well this would allow the chroot to fetch packages from these +alternatives repositories and could automate the process. +><i> - people content must respect our policies. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In a nutshell: this must be discuss. Having a people is at time just an +</I>><i> idea, but it solve a need I had in mandriva to provide some rpms for +</I>><i> testing purpose. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Will users be able to add this as another repository ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I don't know any process to deny someone to push hdlists and rpms. +</I>><i> However I don't think it is a good idea to use this space as an +</I>><i> alternative to oficial mageia. The risk is to confuse people. +</I>Well, I don’t think it’s about confusing people, after all these +packages are in a different subtree than regular packages, rather +giving choice. I know at least one person who said on #mageia-de that +mageia would be a no-go for him if he couldn’t have awesome. + +In Gentoo you have the ability to define your own USE flags to tweak +your system to your needs. Here’s what it says when you activate the xcb +flag and emerge cairo: + +WARN: postinst +You have enabled the Cairo XCB backend which is used only by +a select few apps. The Cairo XCB backend is presently +un-maintained and needs a lot of work to get it caught up +to the Xrender and Xlib backends, which are the backends used +by most applications. See: +<A HREF="http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xcb/2008-December/004139.html">http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xcb/2008-December/004139.html</A> + +I thought about using a README.urpmi to show in the %post section in a +similar way. Of course we’re not gentoo and as we provide precompiled +packages it doesn’t allow us to do things in a similar way (though we +could provide some mechanisms like AUR for arch). + +The whole idea is that some people won’t feel “ghettoized” because they +use something different than KDE or GNOME, though the concept can be +extended to anything and not just window managers/desktop environments. +><i> +</I>><i> Also, I'd like to notice this space is not a way to provide your own +</I>><i> project, there is platform for that (sourceforge, zarb, gnu, etc...) +</I>Don’t get me wrong here, I was not talking about hosting a project, just +packages for mageia. + +Regards, +-- +Rémy CLOUARD +() ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail +/\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 230 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101021/ae9f457e/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001321.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001322.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1317">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1317">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1317">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1317">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001318.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001318.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..671bdf318 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001318.html @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101021203818.GS7479%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001313.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001319.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101021203818.GS7479%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 22:38:19 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001313.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001319.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1318">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1318">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1318">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1318">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>* Maarten Vanraes (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>) wrote: +><i> Op woensdag 20 oktober 2010 18:34:24 schreef Olivier Thauvin: +</I>><i> > Hi, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > You can find here: +</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/</A> +</I>><i> > the current mirror tree proposal. +</I>><i> > We now have to discuss it, I think. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> i didn't follow the whole previous discussion about the mirror tree, but would +</I>><i> it be advisable to have a noarch subdir, next to i586 and x86_64 ? +</I> +This is not on my side. The internal distribution tree structure is more +related to build system than the global mirror tree structure. + +At least, the tree I am suggesting neither deny it, neither make it +easier. + +Regards. + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101021/9b2334bf/attachment-0001.asc> +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001313.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001319.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1318">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1318">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1318">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1318">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001319.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001319.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1a9f99011 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001319.html @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mageia%20repository%20sections%2C%20licenses%2C%20restrictions%2C%0A%09firmware%20etc&In-Reply-To=%3C201010212239.30233.stormi%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001318.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc</H1> + <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mageia%20repository%20sections%2C%20licenses%2C%20restrictions%2C%0A%09firmware%20etc&In-Reply-To=%3C201010212239.30233.stormi%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc">stormi at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 22:39:30 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001318.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1319">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1319">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1319">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1319">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mercredi 13 octobre 2010 20:22:01, Michael Scherer a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> Le mardi 12 octobre 2010 à 18:02 +0300, Anssi Hannula a écrit : +</I>><i> > Hi all! +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Do people have any thoughts on what kind of repository/media sectioning we +</I>><i> > should use on Mageia, and what should those sections contain? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Note that I won't talk about backports / private repositories in this post, +</I>><i> > only about the basic sectioning and packages in those. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Some points to consider (I've written my opinion in ones where I have one): +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > == Do we want a separated core repository? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > No separated core: Fedora, Debian, Opensuse +</I>><i> > Separated core: Mandriva (main), Ubuntu (main), Arch (Core) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> How do we decide what would be in core ? +</I> +I don't know exactly, however I'd like we clearly separate officially supported packages from the others. + +Some people will tell me "what's the difference, we are a community distro now", but I think we still have to clearly say what packages we give : +- guaranteed security updates +- guaranteed bugfix updates for important bugs +- (If some parts of my proposal at <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=rollingdebate">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=rollingdebate</A> are kept) supported backports (for the most-wanted packages) + +There may be a QA Coordination Team which would help choose which packages are in main/core and which are in extra, along with the other teams and maybe user votes. + +Main : packages which have a regular maintainer or maintainer team. If you install them, you know you can trust the team to maintain it properly. + +Contrib/extra : other packages. + +In a perfect world, with infinite man power, everything would be in "main" and there would be no "extra". However in our real world, we have to decide which packages are guaranteed (main) and which ones are outside QA Team responsibility. One of our goals will be to increase the perimeter of "main", when we get more contributers. + +Another difference : as in Mandriva, there would be stricter rules about package updates in main than in contrib/extra. This is important to help provide high quality packages and updates in main. + +If there is a clearly defined set of supported packages, with a support policy I can trust, then I can recommend Mageia for server use and corporate workstation use. If we meld everything in one big bag of packages, I can only fear for the distribution's quality. + +However, I don't know if there has to be separate media or any other *clear* way to differentiate supported packages from extra packages. + +Best regards + +Samuel Verschelde +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001318.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1319">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1319">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1319">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1319">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001320.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001320.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..dcd50fd7e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001320.html @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3Cm3bp6n9t4i.fsf%40euphor.blino.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001301.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001323.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Olivier Blin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3Cm3bp6n9t4i.fsf%40euphor.blino.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">mageia at blino.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 22:40:45 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001301.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001323.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1320">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1320">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1320">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1320">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>> writes: + +>><i> I've seen that the distribs directory has sub-directory called stable1 +</I>>><i> and cauldron, will this sub-directory will be present in iso/ too ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As soon stable1 means "our first distrib" yes, but I don't think +</I>><i> cauldron will be needed under iso/. +</I> +It could be if we build snapshots of the dev distro automatically + +-- +Olivier Blin - blino +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001301.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001323.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1320">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1320">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1320">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1320">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001321.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001321.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..dd27e68f3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001321.html @@ -0,0 +1,96 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101021204842.GT7479%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001315.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001317.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101021204842.GT7479%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 22:48:42 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001315.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001317.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1321">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1321">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1321">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1321">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>* Samuel Verschelde (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">stormi at laposte.net</A>) wrote: +><i> Le jeudi 21 octobre 2010 00:44:16, Olivier Thauvin a écrit : +</I>><i> > In a nutshell: this must be discuss. Having a people is at time just an +</I>><i> > idea, but it solve a need I had in mandriva to provide some rpms for +</I>><i> > testing purpose. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I don't understand very well what kind of packages would go into "people" rather than in dedicated testing media. What would be the difference ? +</I> +I can give the example I had on Mandriva: I did some work on 'rpm' +package itself, but since breaking this pakage would have lock the whole +Bs I'd prefer to first have it tested by some people. +This directory is in this case the perfect place. At this time, +"testing" media did not exists thought. + +Another example could be the XFCE live Cd done by some people in past, +hosted on distrib-coffee as mandriva where not able to push it on thier +mirror (this issue get solved latelly). + +Pushing something on the mageia Mirror need some control. The people +place give the opportunity to contributors to distribute somethings w/o +needing "super user" privileges, but with a clear "unofficial" state. + +I am pretty sure some people will find usage to it. + +><i> +</I>><i> Regards +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Samuel Verschelde +</I>-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101021/de6c6c5e/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001315.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001317.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1321">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1321">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1321">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1321">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001322.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001322.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d2b68cbe5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001322.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101021205117.GU7479%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001317.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001324.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101021205117.GU7479%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 22:51:17 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001317.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001324.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1322">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1322">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1322">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1322">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>* Remy CLOUARD (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">shikamaru at mandriva.org</A>) wrote: +><i> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:44:16AM +0200, Olivier Thauvin wrote: +</I>><i> > * Remy CLOUARD (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">shikamaru at mandriva.org</A>) wrote: +</I>><i> > Also, I'd like to notice this space is not a way to provide your own +</I>><i> > project, there is platform for that (sourceforge, zarb, gnu, etc...) +</I>><i> Don’t get me wrong here, I was not talking about hosting a project, just +</I>><i> packages for mageia. +</I> +I was just listing potential issue I was thinking to. I am not saying +people/ is not the right place for such thing neither ;) + + + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101021/6e614d2e/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001317.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001324.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1322">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1322">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1322">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1322">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001323.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001323.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0e72a7178 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001323.html @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101021205249.GV7479%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001320.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001302.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C20101021205249.GV7479%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 22:52:49 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001320.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001302.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1323">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1323">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1323">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1323">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>* Olivier Blin (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at blino.org</A>) wrote: +><i> Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>> writes: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> >> I've seen that the distribs directory has sub-directory called stable1 +</I>><i> >> and cauldron, will this sub-directory will be present in iso/ too ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > As soon stable1 means "our first distrib" yes, but I don't think +</I>><i> > cauldron will be needed under iso/. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It could be if we build snapshots of the dev distro automatically +</I> +In this case, yes of course. "I don't think" does not mean it's a +reality for ever ;) It's just my current feeling according information I +have ;) + +><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Olivier Blin - blino +</I>-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101021/eca3ef39/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001320.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001302.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1323">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1323">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1323">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1323">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001324.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001324.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3803c7b52 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/001324.html @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C201010212255.32203.r.h.michel%2Bmageia%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001322.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001307.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure</H1> + <B>Renaud MICHEL</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20tree%20structure&In-Reply-To=%3C201010212255.32203.r.h.michel%2Bmageia%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure">r.h.michel+mageia at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 22:55:32 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001322.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001307.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1324">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1324">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1324">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1324">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On jeudi 21 octobre 2010 at 21:36, Remy CLOUARD wrote : +><i> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:44:16AM +0200, Olivier Thauvin wrote: +</I>><i> > I don't know any process to deny someone to push hdlists and rpms. +</I>><i> > However I don't think it is a good idea to use this space as an +</I>><i> > alternative to oficial mageia. The risk is to confuse people. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, I don’t think it’s about confusing people, after all these +</I>><i> packages are in a different subtree than regular packages, rather +</I>><i> giving choice. I know at least one person who said on #mageia-de that +</I>><i> mageia would be a no-go for him if he couldn’t have awesome. +</I> +awesome is already in mandriva, why wouldn't it be in mageia? +If there is someone willing to package it, he may as well do it in the core +repository (be it main or contrib, or whatever they will be called). + +-- +Renaud Michel +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001322.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001307.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1324">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1324">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1324">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1324">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8ff0690ce --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101021/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,167 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-dev 21 October 2010 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>21 October 2010 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Oct 21 00:29:43 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Oct 21 22:55:32 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 24<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="001320.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A><A NAME="1320"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001303.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A><A NAME="1303"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001306.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A><A NAME="1306"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001317.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A><A NAME="1317"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001324.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A><A NAME="1324"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001308.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A><A NAME="1308"> </A> +<I>J.A. 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Magallón +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01287618203-01287639457- --> +<LI><A HREF="001311.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A><A NAME="1311"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01287618203-01287639457-01287677766- --> +<LI><A HREF="001314.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A><A NAME="1314"> </A> +<I>Buchan Milne +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01287629286- --> +<LI><A HREF="001309.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="1309"> </A> +<I>andré +</I> + +<!--0 01287634572- --> +<LI><A HREF="001310.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="1310"> </A> +<I>andré +</I> + +<!--0 01287659372- --> +<LI><A HREF="001312.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A><A NAME="1312"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<!--0 01287682567- --> +<LI><A HREF="001313.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A><A NAME="1313"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01287682567-01287693499- --> +<LI><A HREF="001318.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure +</A><A NAME="1318"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01287693570- --> +<LI><A HREF="001319.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc +</A><A NAME="1319"> </A> +<I>Samuel Verschelde +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Thu Oct 21 22:55:32 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Thu Oct 21 22:55:36 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + |