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+ <B>Remy CLOUARD</B>
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+ <I>Thu Oct 21 21:36:49 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:44:16AM +0200, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
+&gt;<i> * Remy CLOUARD (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">shikamaru at mandriva.org</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 06:34:24PM +0200, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; The peoples/ directory is dedicated to contributors and must allow
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; anyone to share files related to the distribution (testing rpms,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; preworks) in an unofficial ways.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; How this can be setup in practice still have to be discuss.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi, I would like to ask some details about this:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As some of you might know, I&#8217;m using awesome for a window manager and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; have been providing RPMS for quite some time for it on my website.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; May I use the peoples repository to provide it as well as a customized
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; cairo (with xcb enabled) ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As a mirror manager I say yes: I'll discuss with sys-admin team about
+</I>&gt;<i> how we can setup this, with a per user disk space limit (to avoid
+</I>&gt;<i> issue).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> From a project point of view it is veey different. The mirror tree is
+</I>&gt;<i> what some people will see about Mageia and I do think:
+</I>&gt;<i> - people content must be related to mageia
+</I>Well, RPMS compiled for mageia are by definition related to mageia :-)
+&gt;<i> - everything that can be included in the distrib must provide as RPMs
+</I>&gt;<i> using BS
+</I>Well this would allow the chroot to fetch packages from these
+alternatives repositories and could automate the process.
+&gt;<i> - people content must respect our policies.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In a nutshell: this must be discuss. Having a people is at time just an
+</I>&gt;<i> idea, but it solve a need I had in mandriva to provide some rpms for
+</I>&gt;<i> testing purpose.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Will users be able to add this as another repository ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know any process to deny someone to push hdlists and rpms.
+</I>&gt;<i> However I don't think it is a good idea to use this space as an
+</I>&gt;<i> alternative to oficial mageia. The risk is to confuse people.
+</I>Well, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s about confusing people, after all these
+packages are in a different subtree than regular packages, rather
+giving choice. I know at least one person who said on #mageia-de that
+mageia would be a no-go for him if he couldn&#8217;t have awesome.
+
+In Gentoo you have the ability to define your own USE flags to tweak
+your system to your needs. Here&#8217;s what it says when you activate the xcb
+flag and emerge cairo:
+
+WARN: postinst
+You have enabled the Cairo XCB backend which is used only by
+a select few apps. The Cairo XCB backend is presently
+un-maintained and needs a lot of work to get it caught up
+to the Xrender and Xlib backends, which are the backends used
+by most applications. See:
+<A HREF="http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xcb/2008-December/004139.html">http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xcb/2008-December/004139.html</A>
+
+I thought about using a README.urpmi to show in the %post section in a
+similar way. Of course we&#8217;re not gentoo and as we provide precompiled
+packages it doesn&#8217;t allow us to do things in a similar way (though we
+could provide some mechanisms like AUR for arch).
+
+The whole idea is that some people won&#8217;t feel &#8220;ghettoized&#8221; because they
+use something different than KDE or GNOME, though the concept can be
+extended to anything and not just window managers/desktop environments.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, I'd like to notice this space is not a way to provide your own
+</I>&gt;<i> project, there is platform for that (sourceforge, zarb, gnu, etc...)
+</I>Don&#8217;t get me wrong here, I was not talking about hosting a project, just
+packages for mageia.
+
+Regards,
+--
+R&#233;my CLOUARD
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