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+ <B>Robert Xu</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?">robxu9 at gmail.com
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+ <I>Wed Oct 20 18:14:54 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:11, andr&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andr55 at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+[snip!]
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Good analogy :)
+</I>&gt;<i> It's like an accellerated version of &quot;pass a message to the person to the
+</I>&gt;<i> left in the circle&quot;. &#160;By the time it completes the circle and comes back (to
+</I>&gt;<i> the right), the original message is unrecognisable.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's much better to help the user formulate a useful bug report,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that's easier / more productive for all involved parties.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> True. &#160;Even the most na&#239;ve user can produce a good bug report with some
+</I>&gt;<i> help, if they are willing to put in some effort. &#160;A thank you email would be
+</I>&gt;<i> a nice touch, especially for challenged users. &#160;(I forget if Bugzilla
+</I>&gt;<i> already acknowleges bug reports.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The critical part is the ability to directly contact the user with the
+</I>&gt;<i> problem. &#160;For Bugzilla, you have to log in, so there is an email adresse for
+</I>&gt;<i> contact. &#160;And this is generally the case for forums. &#160;If we use a forum for
+</I>&gt;<i> submitting bugs, we need the same login so that Bugzilla has a contact email
+</I>&gt;<i> available. &#160;This is doable, and would also be more convenient for all
+</I>&gt;<i> contributors.
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course, there is still the barrier of getting the user to sign up for an
+</I>&gt;<i> account ... :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Another possibility is to have a Bugzilla assistant on the desktop, where
+</I>&gt;<i> the user is asked to describe the problem, give an email adresse, which is
+</I>&gt;<i> sent to Bugzilla.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The approach of OpenOffice (official) could always be used for crashes.
+</I>&gt;<i> A bug report page opens as OpenOffice restarts automatically on a crash.
+</I>&gt;<i> Relevent info has already been gathered, viewable on a sub-page.
+</I>&gt;<i> The user is asked to optionally describe what he was doing, and is invited
+</I>&gt;<i> to optionally enter their email adresse if there are furthur questions (and
+</I>&gt;<i> informed that it will only be used for the purposes of the bug in question).
+</I>&gt;<i> And if the user provides an email adresse, they receive a thank you email
+</I>&gt;<i> with the bug tracking number.
+</I>&gt;<i> Very easy, and probably provides as much info as the average bugzilla
+</I>&gt;<i> report.
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course, only useful when a program crashes, where it can be automatically
+</I>&gt;<i> sensed that there is a problem. &#160;And it will produce a lot of duplicate bug
+</I>&gt;<i> reports, evidently.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+You could use a tool like abrt, which can detect duplicate bug
+reports, if I am correct.
+It'll also make filing bug reports easier...
+Maybe you could modify it to give a personal UUID for each computer,
+so that the user
+is not forced to register?
+
+--
+later, Robert Xu
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