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+<div dir="ltr">Alright.<br>To be honest, I wasn&#39;t sure about dtsiamasiotis, the name did sound familiar, just not familiar enough.<br>So, barring any objections, I will create a page in the new wiki with a table, and that whole list of people (except for Dimosthenis).<br>
+The columns will be: IRC nick, forum nick, email, tasks/contributions. For anybody whom I don&#39;t have any information in any cell I will leave blank, and that can be filled in later. The table will be sorted alphabetically by IRC nick.<br>
+Aside from that, Thorsten&#39;s contact information (his IRC nick) will be available directly from the main artwork page.<br>For starters, I will only post IRC nicks and the tasks/contributions that I know of, and anybody who wants more information about them should let me know, either on-list or in a private email.<br>
+<br>Now, what about the guidelines?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Thorsten van Lil <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de">tvl83@gmx.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+Am 09.11.2011 15:44, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">
+On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de" target="_blank">tvl83@gmx.de</a><br></div><div class="im">
+&lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de" target="_blank">tvl83@gmx.de</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
+<br>
+    Am 09.11.2011 14:49, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:<br>
+<br>
+        On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Romain d&#39;Alverny<br>
+        &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div class="im">
+        &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
+<br>
+            On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 22:57, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de" target="_blank">tvl83@gmx.de</a><br>
+        &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de" target="_blank">tvl83@gmx.de</a>&gt;<br></div><div><div></div><div class="h5">
+        &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de" target="_blank">tvl83@gmx.de</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de" target="_blank">tvl83@gmx.de</a>&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
+         &gt; The question that came in my mind is: Do we need a list of team<br>
+            members?<br>
+         &gt; What benefit has one of it, if he is listed?<br>
+<br>
+            Being a team _peer_ member is distinct than just attending.<br>
+        I know it<br>
+            may sound ludicrous or over-theorical, but this is important<br>
+        to know<br>
+            who gets a vote and who doesn&#39;t, in some situation (such as<br>
+        electing<br>
+            the leader, the deputy leader, and deciding on serious<br>
+        issues if a<br>
+            vote is needed). So, in this point of view, yes, having a<br>
+        list of who<br>
+            is a peer is important.<br>
+<br>
+            It&#39;s important too so that it can be written somewhere for write<br>
+            accesses in some places (yes, the storage thing is lagging<br>
+        behind), so<br>
+            that we can roughly know how many people are involved (there&#39;s a<br>
+            user/group web app in the works), etc.<br>
+<br>
+         &gt; If it is just like the &quot;Credits&quot; in games/films, than it should<br>
+            be those<br>
+         &gt; who send artworks/patches to mageia. But this is not really fair,<br>
+         &gt; because so many people spend time in discussing, bringing good<br>
+            ideas or<br>
+         &gt; their opinions.<br>
+<br>
+            Credits are a distinct thing. For instance, Olivier Faurax<br>
+        (for the<br>
+            original design) and Alexn83 (for reworking it) have to be<br>
+        in such a<br>
+            list for the current logo (and if we are for an exact<br>
+        changelog of it,<br>
+            we can as well add Hélène, but that was an offline work).<br>
+<br>
+         &gt; Naming everyone who is a active member of the list would be more<br>
+            fair,<br>
+         &gt; but that would be round about 20 members.<br>
+<br>
+            As a reminder, being a peer means having been recognized by<br>
+        other<br>
+            peers. And as we did for other teams, this list has to be<br>
+        bootstrapped<br>
+            by the leader.<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+        Hear that Thorsten? Let&#39;s see a list of peers.<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+    If you ask me that politely  :)<br>
+<br>
+    On the quick, some proposals:<br>
+<br>
+    tumbeliina<br>
+    dimosthenis<br>
+    alexn83<br>
+    Oliver Faurax<br>
+    rda<br>
+    ennael<br>
+    dmorgen<br>
+    trish<br>
+    Oliver Burger<br>
+    Max<br>
+    Donald Steward<br>
+    Zlatko<br>
+    dtsiamasiotis<br>
+    mikala<br>
+    dams<br>
+    TeaAge<br>
+<br>
+    Regards,<br>
+    Thorsten<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+Thank you :)<br>
+Now, I still think of myself as the new guy, and this might be a good<br>
+judge of who is active and who isn&#39;t: names I don&#39;t recognize. If I<br>
+don&#39;t recognize the name, that means they haven&#39;t been active since<br>
+early June.<br>
+And those are:<br>
+Zlatko<br>
+dtsiamasiotis<br>
+dimosthenis<br>
+</div></div></blockquote>
+<br>
+Zlatko is a designer who responded on the call for designer on the blog. He told me he is reading the list. However he already did some work for mageia. Have a look at bug #261<br>
+<a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261" target="_blank">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_<u></u>bug.cgi?id=261</a><br>
+<br>
+dtsiamasiotis has attend to many meating. Also some you were attending too (<a href="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-artwork.2011-07-06-17.11.html" target="_blank">http://meetbot.mageia.org/<u></u>mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-<u></u>artwork.2011-07-06-17.11.html</a>)<u></u>. He also was responsible for new icons for harddrake2.<br>
+
+<br>
+Dimosthenis .... I&#39;m not sure, to be honest. I put him to the list, but dtsiamasiotis was meant. So we can discard him I guess.<div class="im"><br>
+<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<br>
+Next, if I am not mistaken, rda and Oliver Burger are primarily not in<br>
+the artwork team, they just do a little bit of everything :P So, do we<br>
+put them in as well? And what about ennael? She REALLY does everything,<br>
+but does she need to be listed as part of each and every team?<br>
+And what about AlexN83? If I am not mistaken nobody has been able to<br>
+make contact with him since before Mga1...<br>
+<br>
+</blockquote>
+<br></div>
+Well, who do want on the list? Everyone who played a part for the artwork team and is on the list. As rda pointed, those have a vote for representatives etc.<br>
+rda lead all meetings before I did and founded the artwork group. Oliver did a lot for the wiki especially in question of design and is actively part of a lot discussions around artwork.<br>
+AlexN83 could never be contact since mga1, as you said. But as we are still using his work and he is always welcome to came back, I would put him on the list.<br>
+Ennael ... a round the release of Mga1 she cared a lot of artwork and made sure we had a nice KDE menu icon (that has not come from the artwork team).<br><font color="#888888">
+<br>
+Thorsten</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
+<br>
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