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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000083.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000083.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..73b3e15a1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000083.html @@ -0,0 +1,114 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Need%20help%20for%20mageia-app-db%27s%20licence&In-Reply-To=%3C4D1F4AE0.9050109%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000084.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence</H1> + <B>andre999</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Need%20help%20for%20mageia-app-db%27s%20licence&In-Reply-To=%3C4D1F4AE0.9050109%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jan 1 16:40:16 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#83">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#83">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#83">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#83">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Samuel Verschelde a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In the process of releasing mageia-app-db 0.1, we have to fix licensing issues. +</I>><i> Could someone help us on that ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I never released free software before, so I'd like to know what to do once the +</I>><i> licence has been chosen : +</I>><i> - create a simple LICENSE file at the root of the project ? +</I>><i> - add a notice in every source file ? (there are lots of them, many +</I>><i> automatically generated by the framework mechanisms) +</I>><i> - other ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Among the possible licences, there's Gnu Affero GPLv3, which forces anyone +</I>><i> running the software (or one of its derivatives) on a server to make the +</I>><i> source code available to users. However, I don't know if this license is +</I>><i> compatible with our XML-RPC querying sophie.zarb.org when needed (does the Gnu +</I>><i> Affero GPLv3 imply that we must also give sophie's source code to users (sophie +</I>><i> being a separate project from Olivier Thauvin), and does it imply that sophie +</I>><i> should be under the Gnu Affero GPLv3 licence ? I think not but I'd like to be +</I>><i> sure. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Samuel Verschelde +</I> +Hi Samuel + +I'm no expert, but reading the Affero GPLv3 licence, it looks like it is +what you're looking for. + +In section (1) Source Code, it requires releasing "Corresponding +Source", defined as : +---- +The "Corresponding Source" for a work in object code form means all the +source code needed to generate, install, and (for an executable work) +run the object code and to modify the work, including scripts to control +those activities. However, it does not include the work's System +Libraries, or general-purpose tools or generally available free programs +which are used unmodified in performing those activities but which are +not part of the work. For example, Corresponding Source includes +interface definition files associated with source files for the work, +and the source code for shared libraries and dynamically linked +subprograms that the work is specifically designed to require, such as +by intimate data communication or control flow between those subprograms +and other parts of the work. +---- +So it wouldn't require you to release sophie source code, since you are +only using it unmodified. It is not part of mageia-app-db. + +Under the heading "How to Apply These Terms to Your New Programs", + it suggests attaching a brief copyright notice at the beginning of +each source file, with a pointer to where the full notice is found. +Also adding info on how to contact you by "electronic and paper mail" + +See <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl.html">http://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl.html</A> + +Regards +André +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#83">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#83">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#83">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#83">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000084.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000084.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f3a8a4083 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000084.html @@ -0,0 +1,125 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Need%20help%20for%20mageia-app-db%27s%20licence&In-Reply-To=%3C201101021307.00283.stormi%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000083.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000085.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence</H1> + <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Need%20help%20for%20mageia-app-db%27s%20licence&In-Reply-To=%3C201101021307.00283.stormi%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence">stormi at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 2 13:07:00 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000083.html">[Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-webteam] Designing mageia-app-db's homepage +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#84">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#84">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#84">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#84">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le samedi 1 janvier 2011 16:40:16, andre999 a écrit : +><i> Samuel Verschelde a écrit : +</I>><i> > Hi, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > In the process of releasing mageia-app-db 0.1, we have to fix licensing +</I>><i> > issues. Could someone help us on that ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I never released free software before, so I'd like to know what to do +</I>><i> > once the licence has been chosen : +</I>><i> > - create a simple LICENSE file at the root of the project ? +</I>><i> > - add a notice in every source file ? (there are lots of them, many +</I>><i> > automatically generated by the framework mechanisms) +</I>><i> > - other ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Among the possible licences, there's Gnu Affero GPLv3, which forces +</I>><i> > anyone running the software (or one of its derivatives) on a server to +</I>><i> > make the source code available to users. However, I don't know if this +</I>><i> > license is compatible with our XML-RPC querying sophie.zarb.org when +</I>><i> > needed (does the Gnu Affero GPLv3 imply that we must also give sophie's +</I>><i> > source code to users (sophie being a separate project from Olivier +</I>><i> > Thauvin), and does it imply that sophie should be under the Gnu Affero +</I>><i> > GPLv3 licence ? I think not but I'd like to be sure. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Regards +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Samuel Verschelde +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hi Samuel +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'm no expert, but reading the Affero GPLv3 licence, it looks like it is +</I>><i> what you're looking for. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In section (1) Source Code, it requires releasing "Corresponding +</I>><i> Source", defined as : +</I>><i> ---- +</I>><i> The "Corresponding Source" for a work in object code form means all the +</I>><i> source code needed to generate, install, and (for an executable work) +</I>><i> run the object code and to modify the work, including scripts to control +</I>><i> those activities. However, it does not include the work's System +</I>><i> Libraries, or general-purpose tools or generally available free programs +</I>><i> which are used unmodified in performing those activities but which are +</I>><i> not part of the work. For example, Corresponding Source includes +</I>><i> interface definition files associated with source files for the work, +</I>><i> and the source code for shared libraries and dynamically linked +</I>><i> subprograms that the work is specifically designed to require, such as +</I>><i> by intimate data communication or control flow between those subprograms +</I>><i> and other parts of the work. +</I>><i> ---- +</I>><i> So it wouldn't require you to release sophie source code, since you are +</I>><i> only using it unmodified. It is not part of mageia-app-db. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Under the heading "How to Apply These Terms to Your New Programs", +</I>><i> it suggests attaching a brief copyright notice at the beginning of +</I>><i> each source file, with a pointer to where the full notice is found. +</I>><i> Also adding info on how to contact you by "electronic and paper mail" +</I>><i> +</I>><i> See <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl.html">http://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl.html</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards +</I>><i> André +</I> +Thanks, this is the license we finally chose. + +I added a LICENSE file at the project's root. We'll try to add a copyright +notice at the beginning of most source files. + +Regards + +Samuel +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000083.html">[Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-webteam] Designing mageia-app-db's homepage +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#84">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#84">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#84">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#84">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000085.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000085.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..879f3749e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000085.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Designing mageia-app-db's homepage + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Designing%20mageia-app-db%27s%20homepage&In-Reply-To=%3C201101021312.54646.stormi%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000084.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000086.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Designing mageia-app-db's homepage</H1> + <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Designing%20mageia-app-db%27s%20homepage&In-Reply-To=%3C201101021312.54646.stormi%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Designing mageia-app-db's homepage">stormi at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 2 13:12:54 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#85">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#85">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#85">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#85">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi + +If someone is interested, there's a new available task to help mageia-app-db : +help designing the home page (layout, contents...) :) + +I started to write down some ideas in +<A HREF="http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/mageia-app-db/wiki/Homepage">http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/mageia-app-db/wiki/Homepage</A> + +Any contribution is welcome : +- comments +- ideas +- mock-up + +Have a nice day ! + +Regards + +Samuel Verschelde + +-- +mageia-app-db +<A HREF="http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/mageia-app-db/wiki">http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/mageia-app-db/wiki</A> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#85">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#85">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#85">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#85">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000086.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000086.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bad8ef590 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000086.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%202011%20first%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinWbeEtKDHjqHsP6vjtoEND56QDTmuBJyfjLO%3DG%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000085.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000088.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%202011%20first%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinWbeEtKDHjqHsP6vjtoEND56QDTmuBJyfjLO%3DG%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 3 11:17:38 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-webteam] Designing mageia-app-db's homepage +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#86">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#86">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#86">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#86">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi everyone, + +have a great, happy new year 2011! Again, thank you to be part of this +and to make it happen. + +We're going to hold our meeting on coming Wednesday, 6th, at 14:00 UTC +on <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-web">irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-web</A> as always (please note that we +hold a doodle-like check for the preferred meeting time, here: +<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=web#preferred_meeting_time">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=web#preferred_meeting_time</A> - feel +free to add your own, so we can refine later). + +So, topics: + * past meeting action status - see +<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-web/2010/mageia-web.2010-12-15-14.52.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-web/2010/mageia-web.2010-12-15-14.52.html</A> + - transifex + - catdap/identity + - forum + - bugzilla + * maintainers db - <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=web:maintdb">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=web:maintdb</A> (kosmas) + * team org, FOSDEM meeting + * wishes for a long term roadmap for the web side of things + * other? + +Cheers, + +Romain +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-webteam] Designing mageia-app-db's homepage +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#86">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#86">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#86">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#86">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000087.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000087.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c02bcf8b3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000087.html @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Donation pages update & redirection + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Donation%20pages%20update%20%26%20redirection&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinH%2BOSoRWMWRSHJXUzowNB6H3bJNRybLqTABHVr%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000089.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000090.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Donation pages update & redirection</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Donation%20pages%20update%20%26%20redirection&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinH%2BOSoRWMWRSHJXUzowNB6H3bJNRybLqTABHVr%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Donation pages update & redirection">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 3 21:00:59 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000089.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000090.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam Meeting, Dec 01 2010 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#87">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#87">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#87">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#87">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi there, + +as some noticed it after my previous message, we moved the donation +pages from donate.mageia.org/* to www.mageia.org/*/donate. + +The rationale is that: + - Mageia got its own bank & paypal accounts + - we wanted to move it under www.mageia.org + +Things have been made a little in a hurry just before the holidays, +and we benefited from several translations already (not all). We still +need to port the donation reporting script (amount, donators) from +Paypal notifications (we have a copy of the previous code). + +In the meantime, we should have done this sooner; we have updated all +mageia.org links to not to point to donate.mageia.org anymore, but... +there still may be some somewhere. So we're going to move/update DNS +records for donate.mageia.org and rewrite all URLs to new pages. It's +a matter of a few hours. + +Cheers, + +Romain +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000089.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000090.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam Meeting, Dec 01 2010 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#87">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#87">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#87">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#87">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000088.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000088.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ef9fac84c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000088.html @@ -0,0 +1,95 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%202011%20first%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D9N_EeoTrSh4hxVpARBfsTUosZUUABvm65R%3DCt%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000086.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000089.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%202011%20first%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D9N_EeoTrSh4hxVpARBfsTUosZUUABvm65R%3DCt%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jan 5 12:25:52 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000089.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#88">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#88">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#88">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#88">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 11:17, Romain d'Alverny <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Hi everyone, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> have a great, happy new year 2011! Again, thank you to be part of this +</I>><i> and to make it happen. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We're going to hold our meeting on coming Wednesday, 6th, at 14:00 UTC +</I>><i> on <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-web">irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-web</A> as always (please note that we +</I>><i> hold a doodle-like check for the preferred meeting time, here: +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=web#preferred_meeting_time">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=web#preferred_meeting_time</A> - feel +</I>><i> free to add your own, so we can refine later). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So, topics: +</I>><i>  * past meeting action status - see +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-web/2010/mageia-web.2010-12-15-14.52.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-web/2010/mageia-web.2010-12-15-14.52.html</A> +</I>><i>    - transifex +</I>><i>    - catdap/identity +</I>><i>    - forum +</I>><i>    - bugzilla +</I>><i>  * maintainers db - <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=web:maintdb">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=web:maintdb</A> (kosmas) +</I>><i>  * team org, FOSDEM meeting +</I>><i>  * wishes for a long term roadmap for the web side of things +</I>><i>  * other? +</I> +Adding: + * calendaring solution; + - caldav servers (found DAViCal, <A HREF="http://www.davical.org/">http://www.davical.org/</A> ; +Radicale, <A HREF="http://www.radicale.org/">http://www.radicale.org/</A> ), + - clients (web facing and others), + - boths? + - <A HREF="http://www.agendadulibre.org/">http://www.agendadulibre.org/</A> w/ +<A HREF="http://www.agendadulibre.org/svn/">http://www.agendadulibre.org/svn/</A> (specific, PHP-based) + - <A HREF="http://www.agendadulibre.qc.ca/">http://www.agendadulibre.qc.ca/</A> w/ +<A HREF="http://gitorious.org/agenda-du-libre">http://gitorious.org/agenda-du-libre</A> inspired from above, but +reimplemented in Python/Django + - <A HREF="http://www.php-calendar.com/">http://www.php-calendar.com/</A> (generic) + - <A HREF="http://phpicalendar.net/">http://phpicalendar.net/</A> (generic) + +Romain +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000089.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#88">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#88">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#88">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#88">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000089.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000089.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fcbdc5afb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000089.html @@ -0,0 +1,64 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%202011%20first%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimhg6czT6quhGFELKDC9rPFnGZipGSg-4Ybyqoq%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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My point was: We +</I>>>><i> have 32 people registeres in the wiki and how many did say sth.? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There obviously is a delta between people that registered on the wiki +</I>><i> at first, and people that actually stand up (or that are just able to +</I>><i> keep up through the IRC at these times). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Not all 32 on the wiki registered on the mageia-webteam ml (and some +</I>><i> are on the ml and not in the wiki list); we can notify them once more +</I>><i> on January and then clean up the list I guess? +</I> +I just notified people that were in the wiki list and not yet +subscribed to this list (about 20 I think). I will clean up the list +later and change the contact/join instructions. + +Note that there are already 33 subscribers to the list. + +><i> Anyway, what's is really important is that we have enough people +</I>><i> showing up and building/releasing things within the team. We're +</I>><i> reaching that point I believe. +</I> +Cheers, + +Romain +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000087.html">[Mageia-webteam] Donation pages update & redirection +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000091.html">[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#90">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#90">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#90">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#90">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000091.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000091.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..dd285495d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000091.html @@ -0,0 +1,84 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Catdap%20trunk%20instance%2C%20and%20update&In-Reply-To=%3C1294268872.29097.64.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000090.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000092.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Catdap%20trunk%20instance%2C%20and%20update&In-Reply-To=%3C1294268872.29097.64.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Jan 6 00:07:51 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000090.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam Meeting, Dec 01 2010 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000092.html">[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#91">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#91">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#91">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#91">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi, +some people asked us^W to have a trunk installation of catdap, and so +here it is : +<A HREF="https://identity-trunk.mageia.org/">https://identity-trunk.mageia.org/</A> + +Updated every 15 minutes, from trunk. + +yes, it look nicer than <A HREF="https://identity.mageia.org/">https://identity.mageia.org/</A> . I suspect the +merge didn't went as well as I thought. + +I plan to announce it to the unsuspecting world once trunk is fully +merged in branch/live and then ask people to register to it for sympa +ml, and tx, and so on, unless someone give a raeson to not do it. + +There is several forms to enhance ( so far, i only work on login and +register one, and I would get ride of captcha on the register one if +possible ), I followed mainly this guide to refresh my memory +<A HREF="http://www.lukew.com/resources/articles/WebForms_LukeW.pdf">http://www.lukew.com/resources/articles/WebForms_LukeW.pdf</A> , but not +everything is done. + +For example, the register page could be more usable if the title was not +so huge ( IMHO ) ( and getting ride of the captcha would also help, it +depend on what we want to prevent, a simple mathematical question would +be better ). + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000090.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam Meeting, Dec 01 2010 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000092.html">[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#91">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#91">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#91">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#91">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000092.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000092.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1f3688676 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000092.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Catdap%20trunk%20instance%2C%20and%20update&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D_MQ8JpWuFz1pEWbvvwpArpMOSQZE%2BJL6ZLjt1%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000091.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000095.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Catdap%20trunk%20instance%2C%20and%20update&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D_MQ8JpWuFz1pEWbvvwpArpMOSQZE%2BJL6ZLjt1%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Jan 6 09:45:03 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000091.html">[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000095.html">[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#92">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#92">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#92">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#92">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 00:07, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +><i> some people asked us^W to have a trunk installation of catdap, and so +</I>><i> here it is : +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://identity-trunk.mageia.org/">https://identity-trunk.mageia.org/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Updated every 15 minutes, from trunk. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> yes, it look nicer than <A HREF="https://identity.mageia.org/">https://identity.mageia.org/</A> . I suspect the +</I>><i> merge didn't went as well as I thought. +</I> +I did the merge (from live to trunk, several weeks ago) but I believe +trunk evolved on its afterwise. + +So probably yes, no merge has been done from trunk to live afterwise. + +><i> For example, the register page could be more usable if the title was not +</I>><i> so huge ( IMHO ) ( and getting ride of the captcha would also help, it +</I>><i> depend on what we want to prevent, a simple mathematical question would +</I>><i> be better ). +</I> +Yep. + +Romain +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000091.html">[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000095.html">[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#92">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#92">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#92">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#92">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000093.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000093.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5f9c9d140 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000093.html @@ -0,0 +1,121 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Webteam%20peers%2C%20bootstrapping&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimKFwPkb5ys%3DdEP5JYu06xhVE8nBFgZFM8JNDMV%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000095.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000094.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Webteam%20peers%2C%20bootstrapping&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimKFwPkb5ys%3DdEP5JYu06xhVE8nBFgZFM8JNDMV%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Jan 6 12:09:51 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000095.html">[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000094.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#93">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#93">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#93">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#93">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi there, + +we need to bootstrap the team organisation, so we can know especially +who is _in_ the team, can elect/be elected team +representative/leader/deputy leader, and vote for team formal +decisions (as well as having a base to dispatch some credentials, such +as having the production commit button, for instance). And start to +think about the mentoring process. + +As suggested by misc during yesterday's meeting (notes: +<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-web/2011/mageia-web.2011-01-05-14.07.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-web/2011/mageia-web.2011-01-05-14.07.html</A> +), I will, as "first fellow", name first peers. Here they are: + + * Oliver Burger (obgr): wiki, calendar, catdap + * Kosmas Chatzimichalis (kosmas): maint-db + * Toni Korpela (TMKCodes): secretary + * Damien Lallement (damsweb): infra, blog, website + * Buchan Milne (blingme): catdap + * Olivier Thauvin (nanar): epoll + * Samuel Verschelde (stormi): mageia-app-db + * Pascal Villarem (maât): forum + * Raphaël Jadot (ash): forum + +Of course, as usual, I may have forgotten someone. So, the new peers +are welcome to suggest others if any. + +I left some people out, who are especially active in other teams +(sysadm, marketing, artwork, packaging), follow the web team (and +that's good) but I'm not sure it's relevant to have a decisive voice +in the team's decisions; open for discussion. + +(what is below is a draft) + +What do peers have that non-peers do not? + * they have a decisive voice in team decisions (they vote). Non-peers +have a consultative voice. + * any peer can be elected representative to the Council, leader or +deputy leader. + +After this first designation process is done, how to become a team peer? + * you must demonstrate your constructive contributions to the team +work (patches, development, design insights, other); and your +understanding of the project's code of conduct +(<A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/about/code-of-conduct/">http://mageia.org/en/about/code-of-conduct/</A> ); + * you must find a mentor (that is, an existing peer that recommends +you and mentors you for your first steps in the team); just ask; + * your mentor proposes you to the team peers; and explain why (during +a meeting or on the list); should be short/quick/clear; + * unless a significant number (?) of peers refuse, you're in. + +This process can take from a few hours to a few months, depending on +you (already known, obvious contributions; or fresh new comer, no +active work yet). Of course, one can start contributing in many ways +before having a mentor and before applying. + +What is mentoring here? explaining/demonstrating the whole Web setup, +a specific application, conventions, team processes. Validating the +apprentice work and that s/he can be a peer. + +Here we are. + +Cheers, + +Romain +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000095.html">[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000094.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#93">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#93">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#93">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#93">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000094.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000094.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..589d08971 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000094.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Webteam%20peers%2C%20bootstrapping&In-Reply-To=%3C1294316373.3329.3.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000093.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000096.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Webteam%20peers%2C%20bootstrapping&In-Reply-To=%3C1294316373.3329.3.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Jan 6 13:19:33 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000093.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000096.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#94">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#94">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#94">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#94">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le jeudi 06 janvier 2011 à 12:09 +0100, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +><i> Hi there, +</I> +><i> (what is below is a draft) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What do peers have that non-peers do not? +</I>><i> * they have a decisive voice in team decisions (they vote). Non-peers +</I>><i> have a consultative voice. +</I>><i> * any peer can be elected representative to the Council, leader or +</I>><i> deputy leader. +</I> +How are access to $VCS will be handled ? + +The possibility of having access to server to either read logs or run +some limited commands was also asked, how would it articulate with this +scheme ? + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000093.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000096.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#94">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#94">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#94">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#94">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000095.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000095.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5a7f01823 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000095.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Catdap%20trunk%20instance%2C%20and%20update&In-Reply-To=%3C1294318127.3329.9.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000092.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000093.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Catdap%20trunk%20instance%2C%20and%20update&In-Reply-To=%3C1294318127.3329.9.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Jan 6 13:48:47 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000092.html">[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000093.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#95">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#95">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#95">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#95">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le jeudi 06 janvier 2011 à 09:45 +0100, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +><i> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 00:07, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > some people asked us^W to have a trunk installation of catdap, and so +</I>><i> > here it is : +</I>><i> > <A HREF="https://identity-trunk.mageia.org/">https://identity-trunk.mageia.org/</A> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Updated every 15 minutes, from trunk. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > yes, it look nicer than <A HREF="https://identity.mageia.org/">https://identity.mageia.org/</A> . I suspect the +</I>><i> > merge didn't went as well as I thought. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I did the merge (from live to trunk, several weeks ago) but I believe +</I>><i> trunk evolved on its afterwise. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So probably yes, no merge has been done from trunk to live afterwise. +</I> +I did one yesterday see commit 212 and 211, without much success +despites reading the doc and using svn since years ( granted, i never do +merge ). + +So I will fix it by hand, or do it with git-svn, whatever. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000092.html">[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000093.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#95">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#95">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#95">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#95">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000096.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000096.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..15f1682d8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000096.html @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Webteam%20peers%2C%20bootstrapping&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DpW-CA%3D171xaOZQbEr0Rbzw97Bq2ru%2Bc%3DMo_jG%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000094.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000097.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Webteam%20peers%2C%20bootstrapping&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DpW-CA%3D171xaOZQbEr0Rbzw97Bq2ru%2Bc%3DMo_jG%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Jan 6 14:27:05 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000094.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000097.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#96">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#96">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#96">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#96">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 13:19, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +><i> Le jeudi 06 janvier 2011 à 12:09 +0100, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +</I>>><i> What do peers have that non-peers do not? +</I>>><i> [...] +</I>><i> How are access to $VCS will be handled ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The possibility of having access to server to either read logs or run +</I>><i> some limited commands was also asked, how would it articulate with this +</I>><i> scheme ? +</I> +I had written a § about it but thought it was too early here. Anyway, +here are my thoughts: + + * VCSes: + - read access for everyone (peers & non-peers); + - write access for: + - webmasters (specific role, see below) + - app manager, who should in turn be able to provide a write +access to other peers (developers), on demand? if that's possible + - or for all peers, with each developer/app manager having a +careful look at what happens. + - or maybe it can be app-specific (depending on the app-criticity) + - of course, something making push/merge requests possible could +help (writable only by manager+webmasters, leaving everyone else push +changes to be merged after review) + + * server logs: + - read access to webmasters + - some limited commands? what type? rsync/svn/git types? + + * server deployment: + - staging from a branch available to all peers + - production push from staging available to webmasters only + +Webmasters are necessarily peers; they do master the whole websites, +deploy into production with the assistance of app developers (in +short, with sysadm, they are the ones having the production-push +button and the ability to check on logs). Of course, this requires +webmasters & sysadm to go along well. So sysadm would have at least a +consultative say on who can become a webmaster. + +At this time, this role is managed by (non-sysadm people): me and +damsweb for blog/www (editorial stuff), I believe all the rest is +pushed by sysadm at this time. + +Advice? + +Romain +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000094.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000097.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#96">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#96">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#96">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#96">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000097.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000097.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6ac753f0b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000097.html @@ -0,0 +1,123 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Webteam%20peers%2C%20bootstrapping&In-Reply-To=%3C4D25D0E9.3060704%40vilarem.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000096.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000099.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping</H1> + <B>Maât</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Webteam%20peers%2C%20bootstrapping&In-Reply-To=%3C4D25D0E9.3060704%40vilarem.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping">maat-ml at vilarem.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Jan 6 15:25:45 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000096.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000099.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#97">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#97">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#97">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#97">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 06/01/2011 14:27, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +><i> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 13:19, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> Le jeudi 06 janvier 2011 à 12:09 +0100, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +</I>>>><i> What do peers have that non-peers do not? +</I>>>><i> [...] +</I>>><i> How are access to $VCS will be handled ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The possibility of having access to server to either read logs or run +</I>>><i> some limited commands was also asked, how would it articulate with this +</I>>><i> scheme ? +</I>><i> I had written a § about it but thought it was too early here. Anyway, +</I>><i> here are my thoughts: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> * VCSes: +</I>><i> - read access for everyone (peers & non-peers); +</I>><i> - write access for: +</I>><i> - webmasters (specific role, see below) +</I>><i> - app manager, who should in turn be able to provide a write +</I>><i> access to other peers (developers), on demand? if that's possible +</I>><i> - or for all peers, with each developer/app manager having a +</I>><i> careful look at what happens. +</I>Indeed integration and merging need to be controlled by a restricted number of people + +but we could also provide branches or repos with write access to developpers (subversions sub-repos are perfect for that unless we decide to use things like git or mercurial) + +but if i'm not mitaken there is nothing available offering such a fine grained access control :-/ + +><i> - or maybe it can be app-specific (depending on the app-criticity) +</I>><i> - of course, something making push/merge requests possible could +</I>><i> help (writable only by manager+webmasters, leaving everyone else push +</I>><i> changes to be merged after review) +</I>><i> +</I>Have we designed the standard lifecycles for patches and the standard merge/qualification processes ? +><i> * server logs: +</I>><i> - read access to webmasters +</I>><i> - some limited commands? what type? rsync/svn/git types? +</I>><i> +</I>for example : forums we'll be deploying forums versions with git +><i> * server deployment: +</I>><i> - staging from a branch available to all peers +</I>?? +><i> - production push from staging available to webmasters only +</I>ok +><i> Webmasters are necessarily peers; they do master the whole websites, +</I>><i> deploy into production with the assistance of app developers (in +</I>><i> short, with sysadm, they are the ones having the production-push +</I>><i> button and the ability to check on logs). Of course, this requires +</I>><i> webmasters & sysadm to go along well. +</I>yup +><i> So sysadm would have at least a +</I>><i> consultative say on who can become a webmaster. +</I>><i> +</I>agreed +><i> At this time, this role is managed by (non-sysadm people): me and +</I>><i> damsweb for blog/www (editorial stuff), I believe all the rest is +</I>><i> pushed by sysadm at this time. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Advice? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Romain +</I>OK with the schema but i wonder how we'll manage ACL part without pain :-/ + +Maât + + + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000096.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000099.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#97">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#97">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#97">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#97">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000098.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000098.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8260a794b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000098.html @@ -0,0 +1,171 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Webteam%20peers%2C%20bootstrapping&In-Reply-To=%3C1294325052.3329.47.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000105.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000100.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Webteam%20peers%2C%20bootstrapping&In-Reply-To=%3C1294325052.3329.47.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Jan 6 15:44:12 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000105.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000100.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#98">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#98">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#98">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#98">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le jeudi 06 janvier 2011 à 14:27 +0100, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +><i> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 13:19, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > Le jeudi 06 janvier 2011 à 12:09 +0100, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +</I>><i> >> What do peers have that non-peers do not? +</I>><i> >> [...] +</I>><i> > How are access to $VCS will be handled ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > The possibility of having access to server to either read logs or run +</I>><i> > some limited commands was also asked, how would it articulate with this +</I>><i> > scheme ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I had written a § about it but thought it was too early here. Anyway, +</I>><i> here are my thoughts: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> * VCSes: +</I>><i> - read access for everyone (peers & non-peers); +</I>the easy part + +><i> - write access for: +</I>><i> - webmasters (specific role, see below) +</I>so we need a group in ldap for that, i guess ? + +><i> - app manager, who should in turn be able to provide a write +</I>><i> access to other peers (developers), on demand? if that's possible +</I> +everything is possible, but IMHO, question is "wouldn't it be better to +have one single group". + +Historically at Mandriva, once you had commit right, you could commit +everywhere, and few problem arised from that. Same goes to gnome. I am +not keen on adding acl everywhere given the increased administrative +load it create ( for sysadmin as we either have to do it, or write some +delegation tools, for people who need to request before fixing anything, +and for app manager who need to approve requests ). + +><i> - or for all peers, with each developer/app manager having a +</I>><i> careful look at what happens. +</I>><i> - or maybe it can be app-specific (depending on the app-criticity) +</I>><i> - of course, something making push/merge requests possible could +</I>><i> help (writable only by manager+webmasters, leaving everyone else push +</I>><i> changes to be merged after review) +</I> +I would let people decide, with a strong emphasis on letting people in +mga-commiters group by default. In 7 years at mdv, I never seen any +problem of mis commiting, and I think the potential problem a separation +would solve do not suffice to justify the cost. + +Now, I only speak of a svn centric view and workflow, as for git, it +could be much more different ( or not ). + +For git like all dvcs, we are slightly more free in term of workflow, as +explained for example here +<A HREF="http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.1.18-html/en/user-guide/bazaar_workflows.html">http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.1.18-html/en/user-guide/bazaar_workflows.html</A> . + +And so I feel that industrialisation of project hosting ( as we are +somehow starting to do ) will be detrimental to the freedom of choice, +and we should agree on a few workflow before starting to deploy too much +things. ( ie, if we do want to automate thing, and that's one of the +sysadmin team goal ). + +Deploying a simple git repository managed like a svn one would be easy +and fast. But that would be marginally better than git-svn. + +Deploying a full system with workflow delegation is much more difficult, +but that's what we would want. + +So a compromise would be to decide for 1 simple workflow, use for +everything in the first place, and postpone the deployment of a full +system to later. + +><i> * server logs: +</I>><i> - read access to webmasters +</I>><i> - some limited commands? what type? rsync/svn/git types? +</I> +Well, limited command could be hard to achieve. I assume that read logs +is just "set permission properly" ( easy to do ). Limitation of command +could be done with sudo, but wouldn't change much if we give access to +shell. + +><i> * server deployment: +</I>><i> - staging from a branch available to all peers +</I>><i> - production push from staging available to webmasters only +</I> +We can : +- use sudo + script + ldap group +- use $VCS based tags/branch + acl ( potentially based on ldap group +again ) + +><i> Webmasters are necessarily peers; they do master the whole websites, +</I>><i> deploy into production with the assistance of app developers (in +</I>><i> short, with sysadm, they are the ones having the production-push +</I>><i> button and the ability to check on logs). Of course, this requires +</I>><i> webmasters & sysadm to go along well. So sysadm would have at least a +</I>><i> consultative say on who can become a webmaster. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> At this time, this role is managed by (non-sysadm people): me and +</I>><i> damsweb for blog/www (editorial stuff), I believe all the rest is +</I>><i> pushed by sysadm at this time. +</I> +dams is sysadmin ( and I am picky, but sysadmin is the name of the team +in ldap, I do not know why people say sysadm everywhere, likely because +of the name of the list and irc channel :/ ). + +So to summarize : +- external people +- webteam members +- webmasters + +So 1st step, adding 2 group to ldap ? +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000105.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000100.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#98">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#98">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#98">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#98">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000099.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000099.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3a364e408 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000099.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Webteam%20peers%2C%20bootstrapping&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin%2BkHDshv-AHs8SbXX6%3D1x_Qf6f8nkh_0%3D8x0HX%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000097.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000102.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Webteam%20peers%2C%20bootstrapping&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin%2BkHDshv-AHs8SbXX6%3D1x_Qf6f8nkh_0%3D8x0HX%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Jan 6 17:44:58 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000097.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000102.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#99">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#99">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#99">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#99">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 15:25, Maât <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">maat-ml at vilarem.net</A>> wrote: +><i> Le 06/01/2011 14:27, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +</I>>><i>      - of course, something making push/merge requests possible could +</I>>><i> help (writable only by manager+webmasters, leaving everyone else push +</I>>><i> changes to be merged after review) +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Have we designed the standard lifecycles for patches and the standard merge/qualification processes ? +</I> +Not. We need some practice on this first I guess. + +>><i>    - some limited commands? what type? rsync/svn/git types? +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> for example : forums we'll be deploying forums versions with git +</I> +Ok, but that does not necessarily mean access to the server (this can +be triggered indirectly). + +>><i>  * server deployment: +</I>>><i>    - staging from a branch available to all peers +</I> +That is, ability to sync trunk (or whatever branch) to staging server. +That's an option that allows everyone to see up-to-date working apps +(and to quickly acknolewge broken ones). Or we can have a cron from +VCS to staging. + +Romain +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000097.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000102.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#99">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#99">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#99">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#99">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000100.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000100.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5fd8a1975 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000100.html @@ -0,0 +1,137 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Webteam%20peers%2C%20bootstrapping&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimfTXnEhsivYnLeXk%3DS5P42mZNEFN%3DOJvj-izP6%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000098.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000101.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Webteam%20peers%2C%20bootstrapping&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimfTXnEhsivYnLeXk%3DS5P42mZNEFN%3DOJvj-izP6%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Jan 6 18:05:00 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000098.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000101.html">[Mageia-webteam] Calendar on the website +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#100">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#100">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#100">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#100">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 15:44, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +><i> Le jeudi 06 janvier 2011 à 14:27 +0100, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +</I>>><i>  * VCSes: +</I>>><i>    - read access for everyone (peers & non-peers); +</I>><i> the easy part +</I> +Always start with the easy part. + +>><i>    - write access for: +</I>>><i>      - webmasters (specific role, see below) +</I>><i> so we need a group in ldap for that, i guess ? +</I> +Yes. + +><i> For git like all dvcs, we are slightly more free in term of workflow, as +</I>><i> explained for example here +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.1.18-html/en/user-guide/bazaar_workflows.html">http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.1.18-html/en/user-guide/bazaar_workflows.html</A> . +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And so I feel that industrialisation of project hosting ( as we are +</I>><i> somehow starting to do ) will be detrimental to the freedom of choice, +</I>><i> and we should agree on a few workflow before starting to deploy too much +</I>><i> things. ( ie, if we do want to automate thing, and that's one of the +</I>><i> sysadmin team goal ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Deploying a simple git repository managed like a svn one would be easy +</I>><i> and fast. But that would be marginally better than git-svn. +</I> +Indeed, unless you adapt manually for each project (one with a +gatekeeper merging changes, one with open bar^Waccess, etc.) + +><i> Deploying a full system with workflow delegation is much more difficult, +</I>><i> but that's what we would want. +</I> +Well... I may write it too fast, but I am not sure that, for instance +a gitorious setup (hard part) would prevent several workflows to grow +depending on the team working on it. + +><i> So a compromise would be to decide for 1 simple workflow, use for +</I>><i> everything in the first place, and postpone the deployment of a full +</I>><i> system to later. +</I> +Yes, but what workflow then? + +>><i>  * server logs: +</I>>><i>    - read access to webmasters +</I>>><i>    - some limited commands? what type? rsync/svn/git types? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, limited command could be hard to achieve. I assume that read logs +</I>><i> is just "set permission properly" ( easy to do ). Limitation of command +</I>><i> could be done with sudo, but wouldn't change much if we give access to +</I>><i> shell. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i>  * server deployment: +</I>>><i>    - staging from a branch available to all peers +</I>>><i>    - production push from staging available to webmasters only +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We can : +</I>><i> - use sudo + script + ldap group +</I>><i> - use $VCS based tags/branch + acl ( potentially based on ldap group +</I>><i> again ) +</I> +Hmm, sorry I'm lost here. + +><i> ( and I am picky, but sysadmin is the name of the team +</I>><i> in ldap, I do not know why people say sysadm everywhere, likely because +</I>><i> of the name of the list and irc channel  :/ ). +</I> +Indeed :-p and that's 2 (!) chars less to type. + +><i> So to summarize : +</I>><i> - external people +</I>><i> - webteam members +</I>><i> - webmasters +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So 1st step, adding 2 group to ldap ? +</I> +Yep. webmasters and webpeers (or webteam members). + +Romain +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000098.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000101.html">[Mageia-webteam] Calendar on the website +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#100">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#100">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#100">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#100">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000101.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000101.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4e18b2328 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000101.html @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Calendar on the website + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Calendar%20on%20the%20website&In-Reply-To=%3C201101061802.23501.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000100.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000104.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Calendar on the website</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Calendar%20on%20the%20website&In-Reply-To=%3C201101061802.23501.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Calendar on the website">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Jan 6 18:02:23 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000100.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000104.html">[Mageia-webteam] Calendar on the website +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#101">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#101">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#101">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#101">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>About the calendar solution we were talking about last meeting: + +I have created a wiki page to gather our needs and the possible +solutions. +<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=web:calendar">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=web:calendar</A> + +Feel free to add needs and solutions. I will then try and create some +kind of table matching those two lists to have sth. for decide, what +solution to take. + +Oliver aka obgr_seneca +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000100.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000104.html">[Mageia-webteam] Calendar on the website +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#101">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#101">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#101">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#101">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000102.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000102.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d3e93ff03 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000102.html @@ -0,0 +1,111 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Webteam%20peers%2C%20bootstrapping&In-Reply-To=%3C4D25FA88.9050403%40vilarem.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000099.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000105.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping</H1> + <B>Maât</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Webteam%20peers%2C%20bootstrapping&In-Reply-To=%3C4D25FA88.9050403%40vilarem.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping">maat-ml at vilarem.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Jan 6 18:23:20 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000099.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000105.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#102">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#102">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#102">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#102">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 06/01/2011 17:44, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +><i> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 15:25, Maât <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">maat-ml at vilarem.net</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> Le 06/01/2011 14:27, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +</I>>>><i> - of course, something making push/merge requests possible could +</I>>>><i> help (writable only by manager+webmasters, leaving everyone else push +</I>>>><i> changes to be merged after review) +</I>>><i> Have we designed the standard lifecycles for patches and the standard merge/qualification processes ? +</I>><i> Not. We need some practice on this first I guess. +</I>k + +>>><i> - some limited commands? what type? rsync/svn/git types? +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> for example : forums we'll be deploying forums versions with git +</I>><i> Ok, but that does not necessarily mean access to the server (this can +</I>><i> be triggered indirectly). +</I>Yup but this means coding yet an other specific wrapper ? + + +>>><i> * server deployment: +</I>>>><i> - staging from a branch available to all peers +</I>><i> That is, ability to sync trunk (or whatever branch) to staging server. +</I>><i> That's an option that allows everyone to see up-to-date working apps +</I>><i> (and to quickly acknolewge broken ones). Or we can have a cron from +</I>><i> VCS to staging. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Romain +</I>This imply limiting ourselves to one trunk and limiting our capacity to thread features developement nope ? + +I'd rather see a model with many trunks/tags/branches available for (one for each active dev) and ~user dirs allowing people to switch their personnal instance to the trunk/tag/branch they want to play with... + +for a given project we would have a SVN repos organization like that : + +$baseurl/$project_root/main/{trunk|tags|branches} + + +$baseurl/$project_root/devs/$nickname/{trunk|tags|branches} + + +$baseurl/$project_root = name of the application + + +$baseurl/$project_root/devs/$nickname => repos dedicated to $nickname developer work + + +$baseurl/$project_root/main => official public repos where "webmasters" merge developpers work + +Then for apache testing organization we could have : + +<A HREF="http://thesdeverver.mageia.org/manager">http://thesdeverver.mageia.org/manager</A> => where $nickname can log on and click to switch it's own instance to what he wants (application,repository,tag or branch or trunk) + +<A HREF="http://the-dev-server.mageia.org/testing/~$nickname/">http://the-dev-server.mageia.org/testing/~$nickname/</A> => where he tests the application he just switched to + +what do you think ? + + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000099.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000105.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#102">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#102">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#102">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#102">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000103.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000103.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9586b0cf0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000103.html @@ -0,0 +1,113 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Gitorious - LDAP installation-integration Feasibilty + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Gitorious%20-%20LDAP%20installation-integration%0A%09Feasibilty&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikWUTJyJeiMpFj51-b8GhvrObP5hGqU86Y7Mym3%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000106.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000123.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Gitorious - LDAP installation-integration Feasibilty</H1> + <B>Kosmas Chatzimichalis</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Gitorious%20-%20LDAP%20installation-integration%0A%09Feasibilty&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikWUTJyJeiMpFj51-b8GhvrObP5hGqU86Y7Mym3%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Gitorious - LDAP installation-integration Feasibilty">Kosmas at mach7x.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Jan 6 18:48:44 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000106.html">[Mageia-webteam] Calendar on the website +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000123.html">[Mageia-webteam] Gitorious - LDAP installation-integration Feasibilty +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#103">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#103">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#103">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#103">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Further to the discussion about gitorious setup and integration with ldap: + +First there is a need for a git setup, as at this moment there are two +projects using git (mageia-app-db, mageia-maintainers-db). + +In order to be able to use git, we can either host the projects +externally, or install git in the mageia servers and host the projects +there. +At the moment both projects are hosted externally, but when the mageia +servers have a git installation they can be transferred there. + +For installing git on the mageia servers, we can either install plain +git or an application like gitorious, as suggested in the list +previously. + +The first option about the plain git installation should be straight +forward and as simple as: urpmi git-core. Some more information about +transferring or creating git repositories from one server to another +can be found here: [1][2] + +For the gitorious setup as it is a Ruby on Rails application there are +some requirements to be able to install it. +A blog post with full details can be found here: [3] +During the installation of gitorious there are two options: +Either install the application from source code or from the available rpm [4]. +Before this stage though a few dependencies and requirements would +need to be installed. +Most of them are also relevant to the mageia-maintenainers-db. + +NOTE: As mentioned before, I'm available to help on this stage, as +I've done similar installations before. + +Finally, about the integration with ldap. +After a quick search, it seems that is possible and there are people +out there that have done that. +There are probably two different ways of achieving this. +First one seems to be through Apache and mod_ldap and smart http ([5][6]) +Second one seem to be through PAM authentication ([6][7]) + +So, at this stage and without going into the actual installation +details, it seems that is possible to use git/gitorious and ldap. + + +[1] <A HREF="http://www.42.mach7x.com/2010/03/12/getting-your-github-git-project-to-dreamhost/">http://www.42.mach7x.com/2010/03/12/getting-your-github-git-project-to-dreamhost/</A> +[2] <A HREF="http://railstips.org/blog/archives/2008/11/23/gitn-your-shared-host-on/">http://railstips.org/blog/archives/2008/11/23/gitn-your-shared-host-on/</A> +[3] <A HREF="http://cjohansen.no/en/ruby/setting_up_gitorious_on_your_own_server">http://cjohansen.no/en/ruby/setting_up_gitorious_on_your_own_server</A> +[4] <A HREF="http://rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/mandriva/devel/cooker/i586/media/contrib/release/gitorious-0.9-4mdv2011.0.noarch.html">http://rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/mandriva/devel/cooker/i586/media/contrib/release/gitorious-0.9-4mdv2011.0.noarch.html</A> +[5] <A HREF="http://progit.org/2010/03/04/smart-http.html">http://progit.org/2010/03/04/smart-http.html</A> +[6] <A HREF="http://serverfault.com/questions/139426/updating-the-path-for-running-an-command-through-ssh-with-ldap-user-account">http://serverfault.com/questions/139426/updating-the-path-for-running-an-command-through-ssh-with-ldap-user-account</A> +[7] <A HREF="http://serverfault.com/questions/75566/which-version-control-systems-support-ldap-ad-users-and-groups/75656#75656">http://serverfault.com/questions/75566/which-version-control-systems-support-ldap-ad-users-and-groups/75656#75656</A> +[6] <A HREF="http://serverfault.com/questions/133090/using-ldap-as-auth-method-for-git-repositories">http://serverfault.com/questions/133090/using-ldap-as-auth-method-for-git-repositories</A> + +Kosmas +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000106.html">[Mageia-webteam] Calendar on the website +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000123.html">[Mageia-webteam] Gitorious - LDAP installation-integration Feasibilty +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#103">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#103">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#103">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#103">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000104.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000104.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9f1adffa6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000104.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Calendar on the website + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Calendar%20on%20the%20website&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimFqa5TfMUXX1AJYZXpJW0_bCZ8UfSEuruZh7uN%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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I will then try and create some +</I>><i> kind of table matching those two lists to have sth. for decide, what +</I>><i> solution to take. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Oliver aka obgr_seneca +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-webteam mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">Mageia-webteam at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam</A> +</I>><i> +</I> +Or, if we wanted to create our own solution: + +<A HREF="http://media.railscasts.com/videos/213_calendars.mov">http://media.railscasts.com/videos/213_calendars.mov</A> + +Kosmas +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000101.html">[Mageia-webteam] Calendar on the website +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000106.html">[Mageia-webteam] Calendar on the website +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#104">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#104">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#104">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#104">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000105.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000105.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0fce14360 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000105.html @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Webteam%20peers%2C%20bootstrapping&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinO8hSNSp6weq-cT4FX2i4rgcOWRhnGYzEV66VN%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000102.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000098.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Webteam%20peers%2C%20bootstrapping&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinO8hSNSp6weq-cT4FX2i4rgcOWRhnGYzEV66VN%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Jan 6 19:06:47 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000102.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000098.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#105">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#105">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#105">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#105">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 18:23, Maât <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">maat-ml at vilarem.net</A>> wrote: +>>><i> for example : forums we'll be deploying forums versions with git +</I>>><i> Ok, but that does not necessarily mean access to the server (this can +</I>>><i> be triggered indirectly). +</I>><i> Yup but this means coding yet an other specific wrapper ? +</I> +Hmm yes. That's maybe too soon. But that would allow to integrate with +a test suite on the test server (+ reporting + blocking production +push in case of tests failures). + +>>>><i>  * server deployment: +</I>>>>><i>    - staging from a branch available to all peers +</I>>><i> That is, ability to sync trunk (or whatever branch) to staging server. +</I>>><i> That's an option that allows everyone to see up-to-date working apps +</I>>><i> (and to quickly acknolewge broken ones). Or we can have a cron from +</I>>><i> VCS to staging. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This imply limiting ourselves to one trunk and limiting our capacity to thread features developement nope ? +</I> +Somehow, yes. :-/ + +><i> I'd rather see a model with many trunks/tags/branches available for (one for each active dev) and ~user dirs allowing people to switch their personnal instance to the trunk/tag/branch they want to play with... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> for a given project we would have a SVN repos organization like that : +</I>><i> [...] +</I> +Well, that makes a lot of branches to create for each project and for +each new peer in a team. + +That's where I like git and even more tools such as gitorious/github +(everyone gets his own branches on his own public space and can push +their changes back). It automates some tedious parts. + +><i> Then for apache testing organization we could have : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://thesdeverver.mageia.org/manager">http://thesdeverver.mageia.org/manager</A> => where $nickname can log on and click to switch it's own instance to what he wants (application,repository,tag or branch or trunk) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://the-dev-server.mageia.org/testing/~$nickname/">http://the-dev-server.mageia.org/testing/~$nickname/</A> => where he tests the application he just switched to +</I>><i> +</I>><i> what do you think ? +</I> +Hmmm why not. Will need some work for the testing deployment +(especially for db-based apps). + +As for the workflow, if it's not too inconsistent/repetitive (?): + * a dev (team peer or not) works on her platform, tests there; keeps +a branch on mageia.org; + * pushes changes for code review and merge into trunk (by any +available peer) from her branch; + * tests/staging are done with the trunk - if it breaks, it depends: +fix it easily/quickly or reverse the merge; + * the trunk is merged/branched in a production branch before being +moved to production server; + * production fixes are merged back into the trunk; + * and so on. + +This in the perspective of encouraging small features increments to be +pushed to production as soon as possible (instead of waiting of having +all pieces fall together). That's not a general rule of course but... +a preference. + + +Romain +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000102.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000098.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#105">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#105">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#105">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#105">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000106.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000106.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..40e7fb448 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000106.html @@ -0,0 +1,64 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Calendar on the website + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Calendar%20on%20the%20website&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikO8uTnn99%3DZ5m64V2et4416JsWpG4BVyjGHLNx%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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I will do a quick +test of merging the last change in trunk, creating a account and then +announce it to people on -i18n for sympa. + +And say to send their remark here, so prepare to be flooded :) + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000123.html">[Mageia-webteam] Gitorious - LDAP installation-integration Feasibilty +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000108.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#107">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#107">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#107">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#107">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000108.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000108.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0b0c5ab0a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000108.html @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20catdap%20deployment&In-Reply-To=%3C1294364718.3329.174.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000107.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000109.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20catdap%20deployment&In-Reply-To=%3C1294364718.3329.174.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Jan 7 02:45:17 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000107.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000109.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#108">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#108">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#108">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#108">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le jeudi 06 janvier 2011 à 21:39 +0100, Michael Scherer a écrit : +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> so I finally finish the merge of catdap ( by hand ). I will do a quick +</I>><i> test of merging the last change in trunk, creating a account and then +</I>><i> announce it to people on -i18n for sympa. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And say to send their remark here, so prepare to be flooded :) +</I> +So, among the bug that I have seen and that will likely be reported by +people : +- the template link lead to non existant page + - <A HREF="http://mageia.org/policies/privacy/">http://mageia.org/policies/privacy/</A> + - <A HREF="http://mageia.org/faq/accounts/">http://mageia.org/faq/accounts/</A> +- the registration mail suffer from a problem when using utf8 ( ie, é +are missing, which make it look weird in french ) +- we still have self signed certs + +and we do not have the "beta" stamp i proposed to add :/ + +I am working a less generic form for editing user, but I do not think it +will be ready soon. + +So the only thing left is announcing. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000107.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000109.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#108">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#108">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#108">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#108">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000109.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000109.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..334056e32 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000109.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20catdap%20deployment&In-Reply-To=%3C201101070306.43663.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000108.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000110.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20catdap%20deployment&In-Reply-To=%3C201101070306.43663.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Jan 7 03:06:43 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000108.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000110.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#109">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#109">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#109">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#109">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op vrijdag 07 januari 2011 02:45:17 schreef Michael Scherer: +><i> Le jeudi 06 janvier 2011 à 21:39 +0100, Michael Scherer a écrit : +</I>><i> > Hi, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > so I finally finish the merge of catdap ( by hand ). I will do a quick +</I>><i> > test of merging the last change in trunk, creating a account and then +</I>><i> > announce it to people on -i18n for sympa. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > And say to send their remark here, so prepare to be flooded :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So, among the bug that I have seen and that will likely be reported by +</I>><i> people : +</I>><i> - the template link lead to non existant page +</I>><i> - <A HREF="http://mageia.org/policies/privacy/">http://mageia.org/policies/privacy/</A> +</I>><i> - <A HREF="http://mageia.org/faq/accounts/">http://mageia.org/faq/accounts/</A> +</I>><i> - the registration mail suffer from a problem when using utf8 ( ie, é +</I>><i> are missing, which make it look weird in french ) +</I>><i> - we still have self signed certs +</I>><i> +</I>><i> and we do not have the "beta" stamp i proposed to add :/ +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I am working a less generic form for editing user, but I do not think it +</I>><i> will be ready soon. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So the only thing left is announcing. +</I> +small question, + +why isn't the forgot_password in there? + +was it even useful for me to do all that work? +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000108.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000110.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#109">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#109">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#109">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#109">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000110.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000110.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d7b4cadf8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000110.html @@ -0,0 +1,96 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20catdap%20deployment&In-Reply-To=%3C1294367770.3329.179.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000109.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000111.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20catdap%20deployment&In-Reply-To=%3C1294367770.3329.179.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Jan 7 03:36:10 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000109.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000111.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#110">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#110">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#110">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#110">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le vendredi 07 janvier 2011 à 03:06 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : +><i> Op vrijdag 07 januari 2011 02:45:17 schreef Michael Scherer: +</I>><i> > Le jeudi 06 janvier 2011 à 21:39 +0100, Michael Scherer a écrit : +</I>><i> > > Hi, +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > so I finally finish the merge of catdap ( by hand ). I will do a quick +</I>><i> > > test of merging the last change in trunk, creating a account and then +</I>><i> > > announce it to people on -i18n for sympa. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > And say to send their remark here, so prepare to be flooded :) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > So, among the bug that I have seen and that will likely be reported by +</I>><i> > people : +</I>><i> > - the template link lead to non existant page +</I>><i> > - <A HREF="http://mageia.org/policies/privacy/">http://mageia.org/policies/privacy/</A> +</I>><i> > - <A HREF="http://mageia.org/faq/accounts/">http://mageia.org/faq/accounts/</A> +</I>><i> > - the registration mail suffer from a problem when using utf8 ( ie, é +</I>><i> > are missing, which make it look weird in french ) +</I>><i> > - we still have self signed certs +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > and we do not have the "beta" stamp i proposed to add :/ +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I am working a less generic form for editing user, but I do not think it +</I>><i> > will be ready soon. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > So the only thing left is announcing. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> small question, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> why isn't the forgot_password in there? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> was it even useful for me to do all that work? +</I> +I guess I forgot to merge it before my holidays. +I do not remember what were the issue, sorry. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000109.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000111.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#110">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#110">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#110">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#110">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000111.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000111.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cf534cab5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000111.html @@ -0,0 +1,110 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20catdap%20deployment&In-Reply-To=%3C201101071827.35905.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000110.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000113.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20catdap%20deployment&In-Reply-To=%3C201101071827.35905.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Jan 7 18:27:35 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000110.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000113.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#111">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#111">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#111">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#111">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op vrijdag 07 januari 2011 03:36:10 schreef Michael Scherer: +><i> Le vendredi 07 janvier 2011 à 03:06 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : +</I>><i> > Op vrijdag 07 januari 2011 02:45:17 schreef Michael Scherer: +</I>><i> > > Le jeudi 06 janvier 2011 à 21:39 +0100, Michael Scherer a écrit : +</I>><i> > > > Hi, +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > so I finally finish the merge of catdap ( by hand ). I will do a +</I>><i> > > > quick test of merging the last change in trunk, creating a account +</I>><i> > > > and then announce it to people on -i18n for sympa. +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > And say to send their remark here, so prepare to be flooded :) +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > So, among the bug that I have seen and that will likely be reported by +</I>><i> > > people : +</I>><i> > > - the template link lead to non existant page +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > - <A HREF="http://mageia.org/policies/privacy/">http://mageia.org/policies/privacy/</A> +</I>><i> > > - <A HREF="http://mageia.org/faq/accounts/">http://mageia.org/faq/accounts/</A> +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > - the registration mail suffer from a problem when using utf8 ( ie, é +</I>><i> > > are missing, which make it look weird in french ) +</I>><i> > > - we still have self signed certs +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > and we do not have the "beta" stamp i proposed to add :/ +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > I am working a less generic form for editing user, but I do not think +</I>><i> > > it will be ready soon. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > So the only thing left is announcing. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > small question, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > why isn't the forgot_password in there? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > was it even useful for me to do all that work? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I guess I forgot to merge it before my holidays. +</I>><i> I do not remember what were the issue, sorry. +</I> +IIRC, you didn't want to review that, because of your limited Catdap knowledge +and wanted blingme to review it. + +tbf, this is also a feature that will attract attention, and since it works, +it would be a good idea to put it on trunk and test it out. + +you could even rework the style of the page to match the register (you've done +that before) + +I'm sure you can understand my feelings about this. + +if you weren't planning on using it, it would have appreciated you telling me +so in the beginning. +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000110.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000113.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#111">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#111">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#111">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#111">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000112.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000112.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a3c1f6de0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000112.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Need%20help%20for%20mageia-app-db%27s%20licence&In-Reply-To=%3C201101071832.21955.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000113.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000114.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Need%20help%20for%20mageia-app-db%27s%20licence&In-Reply-To=%3C201101071832.21955.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Jan 7 18:32:21 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000113.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000114.html">[Mageia-webteam] license at the bottom of temporary wiki +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#112">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#112">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#112">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#112">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op vrijdag 31 december 2010 19:12:47 schreef Samuel Verschelde: +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In the process of releasing mageia-app-db 0.1, we have to fix licensing +</I>><i> issues. Could someone help us on that ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I never released free software before, so I'd like to know what to do once +</I>><i> the licence has been chosen : +</I>><i> - create a simple LICENSE file at the root of the project ? +</I>><i> - add a notice in every source file ? (there are lots of them, many +</I>><i> automatically generated by the framework mechanisms) +</I>><i> - other ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Among the possible licences, there's Gnu Affero GPLv3, which forces anyone +</I>><i> running the software (or one of its derivatives) on a server to make the +</I>><i> source code available to users. However, I don't know if this license is +</I>><i> compatible with our XML-RPC querying sophie.zarb.org when needed (does the +</I>><i> Gnu Affero GPLv3 imply that we must also give sophie's source code to +</I>><i> users (sophie being a separate project from Olivier Thauvin), and does it +</I>><i> imply that sophie should be under the Gnu Affero GPLv3 licence ? I think +</I>><i> not but I'd like to be sure. +</I> +usually a file with license is enough + +about sophie: + - usually there's some kind of config file where host or url is put in, you +release it with example.com and the people deploying the app can then configure +it. + +the important part is that this should be easily forkable, if desired. i would +suggest GPL compatibility, also, put in a spec file so we can package it. + +------------------------------------------------------- +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000113.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000114.html">[Mageia-webteam] license at the bottom of temporary wiki +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#112">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#112">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#112">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#112">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000113.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000113.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cf1756635 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000113.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20catdap%20deployment&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTiknzwJyts%2BZGHANx%2Bwwgu-sJHQc-3op%2BU-7gF_5%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000111.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000112.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20catdap%20deployment&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTiknzwJyts%2BZGHANx%2Bwwgu-sJHQc-3op%2BU-7gF_5%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Jan 7 18:35:20 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000111.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000112.html">[Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#113">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#113">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#113">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#113">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 03:06, Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Op vrijdag 07 januari 2011 02:45:17 schreef Michael Scherer: +</I>>><i> So, among the bug that I have seen and that will likely be reported by +</I>>><i> people : +</I>>><i> - the template link lead to non existant page +</I>>><i>   - <A HREF="http://mageia.org/policies/privacy/">http://mageia.org/policies/privacy/</A> +</I> +Will rewrite the URL. + +>><i>   - <A HREF="http://mageia.org/faq/accounts/">http://mageia.org/faq/accounts/</A> +</I> +Need to be created. + +>><i> and we do not have the "beta" stamp i proposed to add :/ +</I> +Ok, we can see that with artwork, or here. I guess it's more a matter +of how we put it than a difficulty to do so. + - top banner, 10px height, orange with "beta" centered so it's very obvious? + - "beta" red superscript label next to the title? + - other? + +><i> why isn't the forgot_password in there? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> was it even useful for me to do all that work? +</I> +I believe it's a matter of putting it into the trunk. We do need it. + +But maybe we could have a more clear view of how branches/features are +used/merged here (and who are reviewers)? (not sure) + +Romain +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000111.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000112.html">[Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#113">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#113">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#113">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#113">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000114.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000114.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d1dec4baf --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000114.html @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] license at the bottom of temporary wiki + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20license%20at%20the%20bottom%20of%20temporary%20wiki&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikPHf1_GvtJC6jBg1jJO-A5ymbpst604S0VVd%3DL%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000112.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000119.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] license at the bottom of temporary wiki</H1> + <B>Benoit Audouard</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20license%20at%20the%20bottom%20of%20temporary%20wiki&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikPHf1_GvtJC6jBg1jJO-A5ymbpst604S0VVd%3DL%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] license at the bottom of temporary wiki">baud123 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 9 01:40:25 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000112.html">[Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000119.html">[Mageia-webteam] license at the bottom of temporary wiki +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#114">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#114">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#114">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#114">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi, + +You may not have seen my request of changing license of temporary wiki + after the end of latest packagers meeting on 5th january (when shikamaru +identified that he may "migrate" some policies pages to temporary wiki). + +So, maybe change the license at the bottom of <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki">http://mageia.org/wiki</A> to +CC-by-sa instead of CC-by-NC-sa if things are inspired from mdv wiki (for +license compliancy), +the change is in a conf' file of dokuwiki +- iirc conf/local.php according to +<A HREF="http://www.dokuwiki.org/config:license(yep">http://www.dokuwiki.org/config:license(yep</A> yet another 5 min changes +/o\) +- and BTW I'll look how to change donation link to +<A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/donate/">http://mageia.org/en/donate/</A> at the bottom too... (for the moment being, +seems it can be changed in the php page not in the conf') +I don't think it would be seen as a bad move as the current wiki mainly +holds content that we all approved to share (though we forgot to enforce a +license to begin with...). + +furthermore, as the name implies, temporary wiki may not benefit from +"automatic" migration, so people may have to migrate manually the content +(losing the history of it), hence, better to have no licensing issues with +destination (even if from the participants state of mind, it's not really +imho). +I see only 2 problems : +- attribution is usually lost (as was the case when vdanen moved from Twiki +to mediawiki in former time), that's not a problem for me as I understand we +do what we can, though adding a phrase like "derived from [original link] +under license CC-by-sa" at the bottom may do it, or to go farther "including +contribution from [list of contributers from history page]" to be more +royalist than the king, not compulsory imho , may _really__ be welcomed well +by some people though +- license (share alike) should not be overlooked or set aside, as it's +important for some people like me, as an incentive to contribute to libre +software (which NC is not) + +Thanks for your involvement, I keep another mail about wiki requirements for +tomorrow^Wtoday :-) one thing at a time, even if it takes 5 mn each time. +@++ +Ben' aka baud123 +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-webteam/attachments/20110109/ba5548ee/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000112.html">[Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000119.html">[Mageia-webteam] license at the bottom of temporary wiki +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#114">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#114">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#114">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#114">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000115.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000115.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8837ce2e1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000115.html @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Comments about identity-trunk + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Comments%20about%20identity-trunk&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTik%2BQA-SborcXaNU2JUOY42HkyNkOJdZUqp8HDhg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000119.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000120.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Comments about identity-trunk</H1> + <B>Ludovic Bellière</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Comments%20about%20identity-trunk&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTik%2BQA-SborcXaNU2JUOY42HkyNkOJdZUqp8HDhg%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Comments about identity-trunk">xrogaan at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 9 14:22:54 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000119.html">[Mageia-webteam] license at the bottom of temporary wiki +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000120.html">[Mageia-webteam] Comments about identity-trunk +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#115">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#115">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#115">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#115">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hello there, I just register myself on the mageia identity trunk, and +I just ran in a couple of trivial issues. + +First, there is no indication of whom created this soft and whom to +contact nor any link to a source code. I know, this software was made +in a hurry, but still, it could help. + +Second, there is an option to add attributes. But somehow, I can +register more information on myself and I don't understand why. +Somebody on the irc said it was for "security reasons"... Really ? Are +you afraid of my initials or my phone number ? ;) You should filter +sensitive attributes and non-sensitive. Also, I could have helped but +I'm afraid to not knowing perl. + +Also, it appears that the names with accents are badly displayed or +registered. My name is Bellière, and with it, I always see when +something is wrong with charset :). + +I wish you good luck and patience. + +-- +Ludovic Bellière +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000119.html">[Mageia-webteam] license at the bottom of temporary wiki +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000120.html">[Mageia-webteam] Comments about identity-trunk +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#115">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#115">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#115">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#115">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000116.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000116.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3c8094973 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000116.html @@ -0,0 +1,67 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Wiki setup + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Wiki%20setup&In-Reply-To=%3C201101091515.36069.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000120.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000117.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Wiki setup</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Wiki%20setup&In-Reply-To=%3C201101091515.36069.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Wiki setup">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 9 15:15:35 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000120.html">[Mageia-webteam] Comments about identity-trunk +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000117.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#116">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#116">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#116">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#116">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I'm exploring the multilingual setup (including scripts for easy +adding of additional languages if necessary). +I've done a demo setup on a local machine, but before I'm going any +further, I'd like to know which approach to follow. +Using e.g. "wiki.mageia.org/de" or "de.wiki.mageia.org" for the German +wiki? + +Oliver +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000120.html">[Mageia-webteam] Comments about identity-trunk +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000117.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#116">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#116">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#116">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#116">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000117.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000117.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e346974a4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000117.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Wiki%20setup&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTik3NRPMbFcW%2BdQMZ0r4jAX1PJO-8C0x0cHAkprM%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000116.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000118.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Wiki%20setup&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTik3NRPMbFcW%2BdQMZ0r4jAX1PJO-8C0x0cHAkprM%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 9 18:04:12 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000116.html">[Mageia-webteam] Wiki setup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000118.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#117">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#117">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#117">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#117">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 15:55, Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> 2011/1/9 Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>>: +</I>>><i> I'm exploring the multilingual setup (including scripts for easy +</I>>><i> adding of additional languages if necessary). +</I>>><i> I've done a demo setup on a local machine, but before I'm going any +</I>>><i> further, I'd like to know which approach to follow. +</I>>><i> Using e.g. "wiki.mageia.org/de" or "de.wiki.mageia.org" for the German +</I>>><i> wiki? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'd go for the pattern that is mostly used on the net: "name.tld/<language>", +</I>><i> as we already see it with "blog.mageia.org/en" +</I> +Yes. And we would use wiki.mageia.org for either a locale negotatied +redirection, or a summary of all existing wikis. + +Romain +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000116.html">[Mageia-webteam] Wiki setup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000118.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#117">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#117">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#117">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#117">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000118.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000118.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7debaabdd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000118.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Wiki%20setup&In-Reply-To=%3C201101092132.38384.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000117.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000121.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Wiki%20setup&In-Reply-To=%3C201101092132.38384.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 9 21:32:38 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000117.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000121.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#118">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#118">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#118">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#118">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>"Romain d'Alverny" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>> schrieb am 2011-01-09 +><i> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 15:55, Wolfgang Bornath +</I><<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> > 2011/1/9 Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>>: +</I>><i> >> I'm exploring the multilingual setup (including scripts for easy +</I>><i> >> adding of additional languages if necessary). +</I>><i> >> I've done a demo setup on a local machine, but before I'm going +</I>><i> >> any further, I'd like to know which approach to follow. +</I>><i> >> Using e.g. "wiki.mageia.org/de" or "de.wiki.mageia.org" for the +</I>><i> >> German wiki? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I'd go for the pattern that is mostly used on the net: +</I>><i> > "name.tld/<language>", as we already see it with +</I>><i> > "blog.mageia.org/en" +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes. And we would use wiki.mageia.org for either a locale +</I>><i> negotatied redirection, or a summary of all existing wikis. +</I>><i> +</I>And on further consideration. It's easier to add languages cause you +don't need to change anything in apache/dns config as you would have to +using sub domains. +Didn't think about that! + +So I'll use name.tld/<language> and write some script for adding +languages. Should be done till web team meeting. + +Oliver +Oliver +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000117.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000121.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#118">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#118">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#118">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#118">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000119.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000119.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f091b8a88 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000119.html @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] license at the bottom of temporary wiki + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20license%20at%20the%20bottom%20of%20temporary%20wiki&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinrs%3D1%3D7BgLhPJORq_f4n5xBjgToVWJ%3DDxmaPxY%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000114.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000115.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] license at the bottom of temporary wiki</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20license%20at%20the%20bottom%20of%20temporary%20wiki&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinrs%3D1%3D7BgLhPJORq_f4n5xBjgToVWJ%3DDxmaPxY%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] license at the bottom of temporary wiki">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 9 22:54:34 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000114.html">[Mageia-webteam] license at the bottom of temporary wiki +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000115.html">[Mageia-webteam] Comments about identity-trunk +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#119">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#119">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#119">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#119">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 01:40, Benoit Audouard <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">baud123 at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> You may not have seen my request of changing license of temporary wiki +</I>><i>  after the end of latest packagers meeting on 5th january (when shikamaru +</I>><i> identified that he may "migrate" some policies pages to temporary wiki). +</I>><i> So, maybe change the license at the bottom of <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki">http://mageia.org/wiki</A> to +</I>><i> CC-by-sa instead of CC-by-NC-sa if things are inspired from mdv wiki (for +</I>><i> license compliancy), +</I>><i> the change is in a conf' file of dokuwiki +</I> +Thanks for the notification. Indeed that would be an issue. + +The footer page license is the default of dokuwiki it seems. We just +didn't check this. And in no way are we ever going to use the NC +provision that is, at best, just unpracticable. + +><i> - iirc conf/local.php according to <A HREF="http://www.dokuwiki.org/config:license">http://www.dokuwiki.org/config:license</A> +</I>><i> (yep yet another 5 min changes /o\) +</I> +Fixed already. + +><i> - and BTW I'll look how to change donation link to +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/donate/">http://mageia.org/en/donate/</A> at the bottom too... (for the moment being, +</I>><i> seems it can be changed in the php page not in the conf') +</I> +Not critical, but yes, if you have a recipe for that... + +><i> furthermore, as the name implies, temporary wiki may not benefit from +</I>><i> "automatic" migration, so people may have to migrate manually the content +</I>><i> (losing the history of it), hence, better to have  no licensing issues with +</I>><i> destination (even if from the participants state of mind, it's not really +</I>><i> imho). +</I>><i> I see only 2 problems : +</I>><i> - attribution is usually lost (as was the case when vdanen moved from Twiki +</I>><i> to mediawiki in former time), that's not a problem for me as I understand we +</I>><i> do what we can, though adding a phrase like "derived from [original link] +</I>><i> under license CC-by-sa" at the bottom may do it, or to go farther "including +</I>><i> contribution from [list of contributers from history page]" to be more +</I>><i> royalist than the king, not compulsory imho , may _really__ be welcomed well +</I>><i> by some people though +</I> +We may set up a page in the next wiki stating the list of various +contributors to the previous wiki. But one has to raise his hand to do +that. + +Romain +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000114.html">[Mageia-webteam] license at the bottom of temporary wiki +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000115.html">[Mageia-webteam] Comments about identity-trunk +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#119">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#119">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#119">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#119">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000120.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000120.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2d0c9f64b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000120.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Comments about identity-trunk + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Comments%20about%20identity-trunk&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim3aPuWeeS9FnUBbbMfmfBdXc9pgKrmJUgVeyhz%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000115.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000116.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Comments about identity-trunk</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Comments%20about%20identity-trunk&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim3aPuWeeS9FnUBbbMfmfBdXc9pgKrmJUgVeyhz%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Comments about identity-trunk">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 9 23:45:53 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000115.html">[Mageia-webteam] Comments about identity-trunk +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000116.html">[Mageia-webteam] Wiki setup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#120">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#120">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#120">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#120">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi, + +thank you for your remarks. + +2011/1/9 Ludovic Bellière <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">xrogaan at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> First, there is no indication of whom created this soft and whom to +</I>><i> contact nor any link to a source code. I know, this software was made +</I>><i> in a hurry, but still, it could help. +</I> +Yes. I will add a link in the footer to the wiki project page (that +will need to be updated later), or maybe on a section that is more of +interest for everyone. + +><i> Second, there is an option to add attributes. But somehow, I can +</I>><i> register more information on myself and I don't understand why. +</I>><i> Somebody on the irc said it was for "security reasons"... Really ? Are +</I>><i> you afraid of my initials or my phone number ? ;) You should filter +</I>><i> sensitive attributes and non-sensitive. Also, I could have helped but +</I>><i> I'm afraid to not knowing perl. +</I> +As you said, this app is being brought up in a relative hurry. We can +improve on that. + +><i> Also, it appears that the names with accents are badly displayed or +</I>><i> registered. My name is Bellière, and with it, I always see when +</I>><i> something is wrong with charset :). +</I> +Yep. + +Added your points to the list of issues: +<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=web:identity#issues">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=web:identity#issues</A> + +Cheers! + +Romain +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000115.html">[Mageia-webteam] Comments about identity-trunk +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000116.html">[Mageia-webteam] Wiki setup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#120">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#120">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#120">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#120">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000121.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000121.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d7c7cd71d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000121.html @@ -0,0 +1,115 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Wiki%20setup&In-Reply-To=%3C1294614254.30856.12.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000118.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000122.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Wiki%20setup&In-Reply-To=%3C1294614254.30856.12.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 10 00:04:14 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000118.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000122.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#121">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#121">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#121">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#121">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le dimanche 09 janvier 2011 à 21:32 +0100, Oliver Burger a écrit : +><i> "Romain d'Alverny" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>> schrieb am 2011-01-09 +</I>><i> > On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 15:55, Wolfgang Bornath +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > > 2011/1/9 Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>>: +</I>><i> > >> I'm exploring the multilingual setup (including scripts for easy +</I>><i> > >> adding of additional languages if necessary). +</I> +Scripts are nice, puppet recipe are better ( because well, I will +rewrite scripts to be puppet configuration ) + + +><i> > >> I've done a demo setup on a local machine, but before I'm going +</I>><i> > >> any further, I'd like to know which approach to follow. +</I>><i> > >> Using e.g. "wiki.mageia.org/de" or "de.wiki.mageia.org" for the +</I>><i> > >> German wiki? +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > I'd go for the pattern that is mostly used on the net: +</I>><i> > > "name.tld/<language>", as we already see it with +</I>><i> > > "blog.mageia.org/en" +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Yes. And we would use wiki.mageia.org for either a locale +</I>><i> > negotatied redirection, or a summary of all existing wikis. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> And on further consideration. It's easier to add languages cause you +</I>><i> don't need to change anything in apache/dns config as you would have to +</I>><i> using sub domains. +</I>><i> Didn't think about that! +</I> +Depend on how the setup is done. I am pretty sure that we will still +have apache configuration job to do none the less. And I think adding a +language is a pretty rare moment so we can tolerate to do it. I am also +thinking into tying dns, apache and all with a list of language +declaration, provided enough work is done. + + + +And the downside is that you will have one and only one server for wiki, +no way to split among many server ( as noted by Benoit Audouard ). + +Now, what I would want to see is : +1) who decide the language that goes ( because someone has to decide, I +do not think that media is so flexible that anybody can start here own +language, and if there + +2) How many database do we need ( ie, creation of 1 big db, or several +smaller one ). + +3) is this : 1 big wiki instance, or several smaller one ? + +Do we ever plan to have wiki not linked to language content ? ( like per +team wiki, or that will be section on the english one ? ) + +I guess I can also take for granted that we will not manage 1 set of +extension per language ? +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000118.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000122.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#121">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#121">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#121">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#121">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000122.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000122.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f202abf2d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000122.html @@ -0,0 +1,136 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Wiki%20setup&In-Reply-To=%3C1294618023.30856.41.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000121.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000124.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Wiki%20setup&In-Reply-To=%3C1294618023.30856.41.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 10 01:07:03 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000121.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000124.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#122">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#122">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#122">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#122">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le lundi 10 janvier 2011 à 00:24 +0100, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +><i> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 00:04, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > And the downside is that you will have one and only one server for wiki, +</I>><i> > no way to split among many server ( as noted by Benoit Audouard ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There would be ways to do so, if needed (front prox[y|ies] with +</I>><i> rewrite/redirection rules to name one). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The question is, do we need to plan today for this kind of scaling issue? +</I> +I do not think, but on the other hand, it may much easier now that +later. And well, even if there is lots of ram on alamut, I wonder what +would happen if we do have a crash ( ie, would we be able to cope with +the load spread on other server in case of crash ). + +We do not intend to have a crash, and so far, i think we would be mostly +safe ( once we do have a backup server ), but it is not to me to remind +the fate of Mandriva servers :/ + +><i> > Now, what I would want to see is : +</I>><i> > 1) who decide the language that goes ( because someone has to decide, I +</I>><i> > do not think that media is so flexible that anybody can start here own +</I>><i> > language, and if there +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That would be a wiki team (that is a mix of i18n and doc team I +</I>><i> guess?). Against a specific policy (like, having a sufficient list of +</I>><i> involved-enough people to take care of a newly open wiki locale). +</I> +Yup, so that should be decided ( not right now, but taken care if +possible before announcing the wiki ). + +Just also to be sure, we do not plan for any specific complex acl ? +( IMHO, we should try to avoid, and if not possible, use group acl if +possible, and in last ressort, login based acl to avoid duplication ). + + +><i> > 2) How many database do we need ( ie, creation of 1 big db, or several +</I>><i> > smaller one ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1 per language. +</I> +Good. +Can I also remind that we try to use postgresql everywhere, and that +would be nice to keep it this way ( mediawiki does support it, so that's +just to remind when doing the test ) ? + +><i> > 3) is this : 1 big wiki instance, or several smaller one ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Depends how you set it up. @ Mandriva, we had a single code instance, +</I>><i> and small custom config files (1 per locale). +</I> +I would favor this too because that's seems simpler. + +><i> > Do we ever plan to have wiki not linked to language content ? ( like per +</I>><i> > team wiki, or that will be section on the english one ? ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I did not understand this one. :) +</I> +Ie, there will be only wiki/en, wiki/de, wiki/pt ? + +No wiki/team/sysadmin/ , or something like that, or per project wiki if +any ? + +><i> > I guess I can also take for granted that we will not manage 1 set of +</I>><i> > extension per language ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Same codebase for every locale if possible (that's achievable). +</I> +Good, so that mean that there is only 1 wiki team, and not several one +( like it was at Mandriva (or at least, like i thought it was)). + +I assume that this will be handled like i18n ? +Otherwise, each team will want a different set of extensions ( or at +least, the risk is not null that 2 teams request 2 redundant or +incompatible extensions, based on personal preference ). + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000121.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000124.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#122">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#122">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#122">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#122">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000123.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000123.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..35da80ff5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000123.html @@ -0,0 +1,264 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Gitorious - LDAP installation-integration Feasibilty + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Gitorious%20-%20LDAP%20installation-integration%0A%20Feasibilty&In-Reply-To=%3C1294662328.30856.237.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000103.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000107.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Gitorious - LDAP installation-integration Feasibilty</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Gitorious%20-%20LDAP%20installation-integration%0A%20Feasibilty&In-Reply-To=%3C1294662328.30856.237.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Gitorious - LDAP installation-integration Feasibilty">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 10 13:25:28 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000103.html">[Mageia-webteam] Gitorious - LDAP installation-integration Feasibilty +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000107.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#123">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#123">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#123">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#123">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le jeudi 06 janvier 2011 à 17:48 +0000, Kosmas Chatzimichalis a écrit : +><i> Further to the discussion about gitorious setup and integration with ldap: +</I> +First, I am likely to be quite undiplomatic ( yeah as usual ), and +basically say "no" so beware :) + +><i> First there is a need for a git setup, as at this moment there are two +</I>><i> projects using git (mageia-app-db, mageia-maintainers-db). +</I> +Sorry, but I would not call this a need, but a personal preference. +2 teams deciding on their own to use whatever suit them is not what I +call a need. + +Yes, I would also love git, but that's because I would love it that I +recognize it as a personal preference. While I guess several people does +it too, I am not a fool enough to claim that git is the vcs that +everybody will love. So "setting up $product" is not a need. Once the +community have decided ( ie, more than the few people that participate +on this thread ), yes, this would be a need. + +Since the choice of a DVCS is traditionally a total flamewar ( see for +example the gnome migration ), I would prefer to have community opinion +on the subject before calling this a need. Ie, see with developers, see +with I18N, see with sysadmin. + +If someone did start to use darcs for a project ( like usually Nanar +does as this is his favorite VCS ), would we be saying "we need to host +darcs ?". Likely. And yet, I would not think we should, because we would +finish by requiring to host everything. This is exactly what is +happening now for the web server, where we will end doing python, php, +perl and ruby. And that's why I think we can do better in term of +ressources planning than just saying "we need that because me and some +others decided". + +Ask to developers their opinion, ask to i18n too, and that would be fine +with me. I am pretty sure that most people will be ok, but we cannot be +sure. + +In the case of gnome, the cost of learning to use git was a problem for +translators. We do plan to reduce that with transifex, but some people +asked if tx was mandatory, so you can see that some people may have a +opinion on that, and should in all case be aware of such change, even if +it will likely cause no problem. + +><i> In order to be able to use git, we can either host the projects +</I>><i> externally, or install git in the mageia servers and host the projects +</I>><i> there. +</I>><i> At the moment both projects are hosted externally, but when the mageia +</I>><i> servers have a git installation they can be transferred there. +</I> +So what about the bugs, wiki, etc are you ready to move this to bugzilla +and others software ? + +><i> For installing git on the mageia servers, we can either install plain +</I>><i> git or an application like gitorious, as suggested in the list +</I>><i> previously. +</I> +Again "setting gitorious" is not a need, it is a personal choice. No one +has a need of "we need to use this product". It should be "here is what +the community as a whole need, let's find something to fulfill it". + +Otherwise, we end with people each pushing their own personal preference +without first discussing with others, causing frustration, likely +duplication, and so causing inadequate installation, more work and less +contribution ( du to the complexity ). + +For example, gitorious can be used as review tool. Since Derek already +proposed reviewboard for this +( <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-sysadm/2010-November/000323.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-sysadm/2010-November/000323.html</A> ), it would be better to first assess our needs, then decide. I do not think having 2 tools to achieve the same thing is a good idea. +( not to mention that there is others tools like this, for example +gerrit ). + +Code review is indeed a good idea, and both gitorious and reviewboard +would be usable for that. But that doesn't mean that's a so good idea +that we should setup 2 or 3 systems for that, nor rush to have it right +now. First a process, later a product. + +Gitorious is also likely to overlap with the forge project that we are +speaking from time to time ( and that's still unspecified ). As Romain +said, maybe this will be bugzilla + $VCS, and some people asked for +trac, some for redmine. This would also be a lot of duplication. + +Gitorious does wiki + git viewer + review. We need to define what +features we need, and in the case of a forge , what we would want for it +( likely adding a bug tracker, a download area ), and see how it +integrate with that. + +I like the idea of gitorious, don't get me wrong, I even did a test +installation of the rpm because that's what was planned for mdv. But we +need to do things in order, think on what we want to achieve. And that +mean to think of needs without saying the name of a product, with +community input, with proper process. + +Ie, what is gitorious used for ? +Social coding ( ie, review of patch ) ? +Glorified git repository viewer ? +Others ( like web interface to mange git ) ? + +( yes, I know that a long way to say "no" ) + +><i> The first option about the plain git installation should be straight +</I>><i> forward and as simple as: urpmi git-core. Some more information about +</I>><i> transferring or creating git repositories from one server to another +</I>><i> can be found here: [1][2] +</I> +Again, sorry to disagree, that's not as straightforward as it seems. + +First, we need to decide basic things, like "where do people push +personal branch" ( because that sound like a use case for git, or people +would have used git-svn ). + +And "what is our policy around the various thing that people can do with +git", like rewriting history ( that we should forbid I guess ), etc. + +Depending on the usage, we also need various things like a git +repository browser, various checks ( see post-commit hook for svn ), +maybe acl ( and therefor, integration with ldap ), commit mail, etc. + +That's unfortunately slightly not as simple than "urpmi git-core". + +And that would requires community input first, like all policies ( or at +least, that's what we should achieve ). + +><i> For the gitorious setup as it is a Ruby on Rails application there are +</I>><i> some requirements to be able to install it. +</I>><i> A blog post with full details can be found here: [3] +</I>><i> During the installation of gitorious there are two options: +</I>><i> Either install the application from source code or from the available rpm [4]. +</I>><i> Before this stage though a few dependencies and requirements would +</I>><i> need to be installed. +</I>><i> Most of them are also relevant to the mageia-maintenainers-db. +</I> +I doubt having sphinxsearch or a message queuing server is gonna be +needed for any kind of maintainer db ( I hope not ). And the fact that +most of them are also used by another project is not much helping, since +we didn't even decided on the infrastructure to deploy. More ever, what +is shared is likely the simpler part ( ruby modules ). The problematic +one are more complex to setup ( ie, indexing daemon, git/ssh management +integration, message queuing using a java daemon ). + +There is also others issues, for example, the documentation speak of +phusion and mod_passenger. If we use it on alamut ( our current +application server ), since mod_perl is already used for bugzilla, +apache will have ruby and perl interpreter embedded, a combination that +I would prefer to avoid for basic performance reason ( and that's why I +asked for fast cgi support, to at least keep sanity to a acceptable +level ). So we may need to setup more than just a web application, like +2nd ruby application server. + +And it would also be nice to take in account the fact that we try to use +postgresql as much as possible, but since that's a rails app, I take for +granted it does ( even if some bug report say it +doesn't :<A HREF="http://gitorious.lighthouseapp.com/projects/53751/tickets/2-group-by-query-error-on-postgresql">http://gitorious.lighthouseapp.com/projects/53751/tickets/2-group-by-query-error-on-postgresql</A> ). + +><i> NOTE: As mentioned before, I'm available to help on this stage, as +</I>><i> I've done similar installations before. +</I> +Well, the goal is not to set it as a one time setup. We can perfectly do +that without much problem ( even if for gitorious, the installation +procedure is bigger than the note I took for installing our newest +server ). + +The goal is to make a repeatable installation using puppet ( and a +maintainable one too ), since puppet give us automation ( useful for +testing upgrade, for disaster recovery, for ensuring everything is +correctly setup ), and is backed with a vcs ( useful for automated +communication, for traceability, for sharing our work, and for easier +integration of external contribution ). + +><i> Finally, about the integration with ldap. +</I>><i> After a quick search, it seems that is possible and there are people +</I>><i> out there that have done that. +</I>><i> There are probably two different ways of achieving this. +</I>><i> First one seems to be through Apache and mod_ldap and smart http +</I>><i> ([5][6]) +</I>><i> Second one seem to be through PAM authentication ([6][7]) +</I> +You are speaking of git or gitorious ? + +If this is for git, yes, we know how to integrate it, that should be +trivial using git + ssh ( at least if no acl are involved and to use it +like we use svn with a single reference repository ). + +Now for gitorious, that's more complex. Does it support ldap to the +point that the ssh key is managed by ldap outside of gitorious ? + +I was under the impression that gitorious used a system like gitosis +where the acl and ssh keys are managed for a unique account by +gitorious, duplicating the information we have in our ldap, and that's +not optimal, and in fact would quite a duplication of what we do with +current group based acl. + +If it support ldap in the web interface, does it support it fully ? +Ie, if someone change name or email, is it updated ? Can we force people +to go to catdap to register and prevent non ldap login ? + +Etc. + +So to summarize : +- I think we need community input for git, at least for the policy and +workflow that should be setup, and to confirm it will not cause trouble +in unexpected way. + +- gitorious is likely to be more problematic, for all aformentioned +technical and organisational reason I outlined. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000103.html">[Mageia-webteam] Gitorious - LDAP installation-integration Feasibilty +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000107.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#123">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#123">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#123">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#123">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000124.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000124.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..631ab014b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000124.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Mailling%20lists%20for%20web%20team&In-Reply-To=%3C1294665724.30856.253.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000122.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000125.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Mailling%20lists%20for%20web%20team&In-Reply-To=%3C1294665724.30856.253.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 10 14:22:04 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000122.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000125.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#124">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#124">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#124">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#124">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi, + +since it seems that finally, sympa is working, I can now do the 2nd part +of the job, aka getting mls for all teams. + +here is what I propose : + +a public discussion list : +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">web-discuss at ml</A> ( or <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">web-team at ml</A> or <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">web at ml</A> , but I would prefer to have a +consistant naming across all teams, as exceptions are usually confusing +and annoying ). + +a public list for various svn commits : +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">web-commits at ml</A> +getting the one of web/ svn repository for the moment, catdap ( unless +we do per project ml ), maybe others. + +Anything else needed ? + + + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000122.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000125.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#124">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#124">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#124">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#124">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000125.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000125.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7a766f822 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000125.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Mailling%20lists%20for%20web%20team&In-Reply-To=%3C34FA1DB7-C7C1-45F1-B743-99DB13CBA49F%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000124.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000126.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Mailling%20lists%20for%20web%20team&In-Reply-To=%3C34FA1DB7-C7C1-45F1-B743-99DB13CBA49F%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 10 14:52:37 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000124.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000126.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#125">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#125">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#125">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#125">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 10 janv. 2011 à 14:22, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> a écrit : +><i> a public discussion list : +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">web-discuss at ml</A> ( or <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">web-team at ml</A> or <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">web at ml</A> , but I would prefer to have a +</I>><i> consistant naming across all teams, as exceptions are usually confusing +</I>><i> and annoying ). +</I> +What is the consistent scheme? (if there is one emerging already) + +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">web at ml</A> would be straight to the point I guess. + +><i> a public list for various svn commits : +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">web-commits at ml</A> +</I>><i> getting the one of web/ svn repository for the moment, catdap ( unless +</I>><i> we do per project ml ), maybe others. +</I> +Tes. + +><i> Anything else ? +</I> +At this point it looks good. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000124.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000126.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#125">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#125">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#125">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#125">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000126.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000126.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b040b8d96 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000126.html @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Mailling%20lists%20for%20web%20team&In-Reply-To=%3C1294669343.30856.259.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000125.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000128.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Mailling%20lists%20for%20web%20team&In-Reply-To=%3C1294669343.30856.259.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 10 15:22:23 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000125.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000128.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#126">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#126">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#126">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#126">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le lundi 10 janvier 2011 à 14:52 +0100, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +><i> Le 10 janv. 2011 à 14:22, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> a écrit : +</I>><i> > a public discussion list : +</I>><i> > <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">web-discuss at ml</A> ( or <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">web-team at ml</A> or <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">web at ml</A> , but I would prefer to have a +</I>><i> > consistant naming across all teams, as exceptions are usually confusing +</I>><i> > and annoying ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What is the consistent scheme? (if there is one emerging already) +</I> +Well, it would be easier if there was one :) + +><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">web at ml</A> would be straight to the point I guess. +</I> +ok. + +><i> > a public list for various svn commits : +</I>><i> > <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">web-commits at ml</A> +</I>><i> > getting the one of web/ svn repository for the moment, catdap ( unless +</I>><i> > we do per project ml ), maybe others. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Tes. +</I> +Missing a t ? + +If we setup monitoring of website ( and well, we likely will ), I guess +we could add another ml for that, or depending on the tool, directly +mail people. + +><i> > Anything else ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> At this point it looks good. +</I> +As proposed in the past, we could also have $<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">ldap_group_name at team.mageia</A> +alias, to contact all team members ( ie, all peers, or all webmasters ), +but the use case seemed rather limited in the past. But just in case +this changed, I will ask to each team, do we have a usage ? + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000125.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000128.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#126">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#126">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#126">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#126">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000127.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000127.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..78fb132c3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000127.html @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Mailling%20lists%20for%20web%20team&In-Reply-To=%3C4D2B18D6.2080808%40vilarem.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000128.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000129.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team</H1> + <B>Maât</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Mailling%20lists%20for%20web%20team&In-Reply-To=%3C4D2B18D6.2080808%40vilarem.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team">maat-ml at vilarem.net + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 10 15:33:58 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000128.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000129.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#127">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#127">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#127">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#127">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 10/01/2011 14:22, Michael Scherer a écrit : +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> since it seems that finally, sympa is working, I can now do the 2nd part +</I>><i> of the job, aka getting mls for all teams. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> here is what I propose : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> a public discussion list : +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">web-discuss at ml</A> ( or <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">web-team at ml</A> or <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">web at ml</A> , but I would prefer to have a +</I>><i> consistant naming across all teams, as exceptions are usually confusing +</I>><i> and annoying ) +</I>ok for me web-discuss or web or whatever :) + +><i> ) ?a public list for various svn commits : +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">web-commits at ml</A> +</I>><i> getting the one of web/ svn repository for the moment, catdap ( unless +</I>><i> we do per project ml ), maybe others. +</I>cool :) + +><i> Anything else needed ? +</I>><i> +</I>web-security (non public) for security alerts, security holes and things like that ? +(ut to us to keep it only for that and disclose afterwards on -discuss if we can) + +what do u think ? + + + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000128.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000129.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#127">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#127">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#127">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#127">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000128.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000128.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c4d7c5e63 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000128.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Mailling%20lists%20for%20web%20team&In-Reply-To=%3CB3E0CB51-3493-4041-AD6B-D626AEEAA16B%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000126.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000127.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Mailling%20lists%20for%20web%20team&In-Reply-To=%3CB3E0CB51-3493-4041-AD6B-D626AEEAA16B%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 10 15:55:45 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000126.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000127.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#128">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#128">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#128">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#128">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 10 janv. 2011 à 15:22, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> a écrit : +>><i> +</I>>>><i> a public list for various svn commits : +</I>>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">web-commits at ml</A> +</I>>>><i> getting the one of web/ svn repository for the moment, catdap ( unless +</I>>>><i> we do per project ml ), maybe others. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Tes. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Missing a t ? +</I> +Nah. I meant "yes" but auto-correct "fixed" it. :-) + +><i> If we setup monitoring of website ( and well, we likely will ), I guess +</I>><i> we could add another ml for that, or depending on the tool, directly +</I>><i> mail people. +</I> +-commit would make sense too + direct notification and public (web) status report. But one step at a time. + +>><i> +</I>><i> we could also have $<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">ldap_group_name at team.mageia</A> +</I>><i> alias, to contact all team members [...] But just in case +</I>><i> this changed, I will ask to each team, do we have a usage ? +</I> +Decisions/elections calls a least, but I don't see more than that. + +Romain +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000126.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000127.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#128">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#128">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#128">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#128">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000129.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000129.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..19508304f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000129.html @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Mailling%20lists%20for%20web%20team&In-Reply-To=%3C6D474D0E-E152-47ED-9DAA-8FDC355AE5E2%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000127.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000131.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Mailling%20lists%20for%20web%20team&In-Reply-To=%3C6D474D0E-E152-47ED-9DAA-8FDC355AE5E2%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 10 15:58:29 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000127.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000131.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#129">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#129">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#129">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#129">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 10 janv. 2011 à 15:33, Maât : +>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> web-security (non public) for security alerts, security holes and things like that ? +</I> +Ah yes. Who would read this? All peers? 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+</I>><i> > +</I>><i> web-security (non public) for security alerts, security holes and things like that ? +</I>><i> (ut to us to keep it only for that and disclose afterwards on -discuss if we can) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> what do u think ? +</I> +IMHO, security should be handled by a dedicated group, who would be +cross team. + +IE, while web is likely to be the one where most attack will occurs, +since it is likely where we will have most of the code, security problem +can also happen on various non web level ( likely lower one handled by +sysadmin ). + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000131.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000132.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#130">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#130">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#130">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#130">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000131.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000131.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2f18a1964 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000131.html @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Mailling%20lists%20for%20web%20team&In-Reply-To=%3C4D2B2201.6070104%40vilarem.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000129.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000130.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team</H1> + <B>Maât</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Mailling%20lists%20for%20web%20team&In-Reply-To=%3C4D2B2201.6070104%40vilarem.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team">maat-ml at vilarem.net + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 10 16:13:05 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000129.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000130.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#131">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#131">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#131">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#131">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 10/01/2011 15:58, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +><i> Le 10 janv. 2011 à 15:33, Maât : +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> web-security (non public) for security alerts, security holes and things like that ? +</I>><i> Ah yes. Who would read this? All peers? Webmasters only? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Romain +</I>dunno... i guess at least webmasters ans sysadmins... + +...perhaps more : App lead devs ? Peers with "security" label printed on them ? + +(the goal is to have security problems quickly fixed) + + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000129.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000130.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#131">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#131">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#131">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#131">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000132.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000132.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..866fb1388 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000132.html @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Initial%20hosting%20requirements%20for%20maintainers%20db&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimBVNbpL0nzxTzaDHNUh%3D142%3DoEEW%2BKspB3h-Mv%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000130.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000133.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db</H1> + <B>Kosmas Chatzimichalis</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Initial%20hosting%20requirements%20for%20maintainers%20db&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimBVNbpL0nzxTzaDHNUh%3D142%3DoEEW%2BKspB3h-Mv%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db">Kosmas at mach7x.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jan 12 00:07:58 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000130.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000133.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#132">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#132">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#132">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#132">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>The initial requirements for installing the maintainers db in the +mageia server are: + +1. RVM (Ruby version manager) +2. Rubygems (1.3.7) +3. Rails (3.0.3) +4. MySQL or PostgreSQL (if everything else is using it). +5. Passenger (Apache mod_rails) + +Kosmas +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000130.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000133.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#132">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#132">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#132">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#132">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000133.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000133.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..19b614070 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000133.html @@ -0,0 +1,151 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Initial%20hosting%20requirements%20for%20maintainers%20db&In-Reply-To=%3C1294796195.32187.210.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000132.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000134.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Initial%20hosting%20requirements%20for%20maintainers%20db&In-Reply-To=%3C1294796195.32187.210.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jan 12 02:36:35 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000132.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000134.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#133">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#133">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#133">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#133">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mardi 11 janvier 2011 à 23:07 +0000, Kosmas Chatzimichalis a écrit : +><i> The initial requirements for installing the maintainers db in the +</I>><i> mageia server are: +</I> +Again I am sorry to be harsh and quite direct, but the requirements +seems rather "too much". + +I do not think it would be wise for us to host a full environment for +each application based on every coder preference, especially when taking +in account that our main product is a Linux distribution, ie basically a +environnement that serve as a base for running other softwares. + +So bypassing this seems rather odd. I would maybe do it for a business +critical complex application whose fate of my company depend on, but I +do not think this project belong on this category for the moment, nor +that it couldn't be fulfilled by what we offer in the distribution so +far. + +><i> 1. RVM (Ruby version manager) +</I> +><i>From what I know, that would likely mean compiling our own ruby version +</I>on the server, using its own separate set of gems. In term of work, it +would like adding a specific chroot, or a special vm of a different +distribution just to host the application. ( different distribution +since that would be totally unintegrated with the rest of the servers ) + +I am sorry to say that I do not really see this as a good idea, because +that put the burden of taking care of the environnement on sysadmin +(especially security wise), and totally bypass the collaboration system +that we have setup ( ie puppet + svn + integrated shared hosting ). + +><i> 2. Rubygems (1.3.7) +</I>><i> 3. Rails (3.0.3) +</I> +Again, I would rather use the package given by the distribution used on +the server ( ie a Mandriva 2010.1 for the moment, soon to be upgraded to +the first Mageia release ). This would mean for the moment rails 2.3.10 +and ruby-RubyGems 1.3.5. + +A small minor backport would be of course ok ( ie for rubygems ), but a +full update of the rails stack is likely be more work, especially since +it would requires others updates ( like the various active-* parts ). + +Moreover, using distribution rpm give everybody the same set of module +to work with, if the need to host/develop multiple rails applications +arise ( and I think we cannot exclude this possibility ) without having +to have 1 set of gems per application. And again, we will not need to +handle security ourself ( or at least, no need to do the hard work as +this is the goal of the security team ). + +So far, we were perfectly able to do it for every perl web application +we wrote ( be it epoll, mga-mirrors, catdap ), and also for external +applications in python and perl ( sympa, bugzilla, transifex ). + +><i> 4. MySQL or PostgreSQL (if everything else is using it). +</I> +I would strongly support Postgresql, as we do have a server running, and +that everything is using it on the web server so far ( ie, the 5 +database enabled application use it, and wiki should also ). + +Given the fact that the maintainer db is basically a simple CRUD web +application, I doubt that this will change much for you as I do not +expect any advanced mysql features, except the old "autoincrement vs +trigger" trick. But I also hope that modern ORM used nowadays are able +to hide that sort of low level details. + +Again, if there is no other way but to use mysql, we could, but I do not +think this is the case. + +><i> 5. Passenger (Apache mod_rails) +</I> +As I told in my answer on the git topic, could we avoid using passenger, +and switch to fastcgi ? + +Otherwise, the web server will likely suffer of bloat since each process +will bundle perl interpreter + modules (due to bugzilla installation +that requires mod_perl) and a ruby interpreter + modules. And I think we +should avoid this for performance reasons, since processes are reused +between each request by apache ( standard mpm-prefork, as I am not sure +that everything will be thread safe ). + +We also use fastcgi to be able to finely tune application, by deciding +how much server should be started per web application. And so far, every +application we use are able to do it, except bugzilla who requires +mod_perl for the moment. + +I know that rails support it too, and we will take care of using static +mode to avoid the issue of slow startup of the server, problem which is +basically the same for catalyst, who is used on 3 of our applications +( epoll, catdap, mga-mirrors ) at the moment, the same for django, used +for transifex . + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000132.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000134.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#133">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#133">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#133">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#133">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000134.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000134.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a231225fa --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000134.html @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Initial%20hosting%20requirements%20for%20maintainers%20db&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinv0PWw-sgZvca-R%2BoeT6Z0eOufKZsrrrz_Ezqc%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000133.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000135.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Initial%20hosting%20requirements%20for%20maintainers%20db&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinv0PWw-sgZvca-R%2BoeT6Z0eOufKZsrrrz_Ezqc%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jan 12 10:36:55 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000133.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000135.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#134">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#134">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#134">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#134">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 02:36, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +><i> Le mardi 11 janvier 2011 à 23:07 +0000, Kosmas Chatzimichalis a écrit : +</I>>><i> The initial requirements for installing the maintainers db in the +</I>>><i> mageia server are: [...] +</I>>><i> 1. RVM (Ruby version manager) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> From what I know, that would likely mean compiling our own ruby version +</I>><i> on the server, using its own separate set of gems. In term of work, it +</I>><i> would like adding a specific chroot, or a special vm of a different +</I>><i> distribution just to host the application. ( different distribution +</I>><i> since that would be totally unintegrated with the rest of the servers ) +</I> +What's the possible alternative? + +>><i> 2. Rubygems (1.3.7) +</I>>><i> 3. Rails (3.0.3) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> [...] This would mean for the moment rails 2.3.10 +</I>><i> and ruby-RubyGems 1.3.5. +</I> +Kosmas, can you backport your app to these versions? + +><i> Moreover, using distribution rpm give everybody the same set of module +</I>><i> to work with, if the need to host/develop multiple rails applications +</I>><i> arise ( and I think we cannot exclude this possibility ) without having +</I>><i> to have 1 set of gems per application. And again, we will not need to +</I>><i> handle security ourself ( or at least, no need to do the hard work as +</I>><i> this is the goal of the security team ). +</I> +What about seeing with ruby packagers about this? (Kosmas?) + +>><i> 5. Passenger (Apache mod_rails) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As I told in my answer on the git topic, could we avoid using passenger, +</I>><i> and switch to fastcgi ? +</I> +Kosmas, can you check this? + + +Cheers, + +Romain +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000133.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000135.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#134">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#134">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#134">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#134">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000135.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000135.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6e4f648c1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000135.html @@ -0,0 +1,129 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Initial%20hosting%20requirements%20for%20maintainers%20db&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DUnG9QChb6Z9G5neru%2BfN1g%2BRXJiUCJymXB%2Bq3%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000134.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000136.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db</H1> + <B>Kosmas Chatzimichalis</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Initial%20hosting%20requirements%20for%20maintainers%20db&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DUnG9QChb6Z9G5neru%2BfN1g%2BRXJiUCJymXB%2Bq3%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db">Kosmas at mach7x.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jan 12 11:10:15 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000134.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000136.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#135">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#135">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#135">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#135">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 12 January 2011 09:36, Romain d'Alverny <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 02:36, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> Le mardi 11 janvier 2011 à 23:07 +0000, Kosmas Chatzimichalis a écrit : +</I>>>><i> The initial requirements for installing the maintainers db in the +</I>>>><i> mageia server are: [...] +</I>>>><i> 1. RVM (Ruby version manager) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> From what I know, that would likely mean compiling our own ruby version +</I>>><i> on the server, using its own separate set of gems. In term of work, it +</I>>><i> would like adding a specific chroot, or a special vm of a different +</I>>><i> distribution just to host the application. ( different distribution +</I>>><i> since that would be totally unintegrated with the rest of the servers ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What's the possible alternative? +</I>><i> +</I>By using RVM, we won't need a chroot environment for gem installation +as installation can be done in a user's account. +Consequent gem installations don't need sudo permission and are +installed on user's account. +Some information about the installation is here: + +<A HREF="http://rvm.beginrescueend.com/rvm/install/">http://rvm.beginrescueend.com/rvm/install/</A> + +I also believe that the actual ruby installation is handled by the rvm. + +Alternatively, the ruby version needed is either 1.8.7 or 1.9.2, but +that will actually depend on the rails version used. + + + +>>><i> 2. Rubygems (1.3.7) +</I>>>><i> 3. Rails (3.0.3) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> [...] This would mean for the moment rails 2.3.10 +</I>>><i> and ruby-RubyGems 1.3.5. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Kosmas, can you backport your app to these versions? +</I>><i> +</I>Can definitely try Romain. + +Just as a note dreamhost updated all their servers to 3.0.3 and +RubyGems 1.3..6 in a matter of few weeks, and although I don't know if +they had problems, I'm sure that they are security conscious about +their servers as well. + +>><i> Moreover, using distribution rpm give everybody the same set of module +</I>>><i> to work with, if the need to host/develop multiple rails applications +</I>>><i> arise ( and I think we cannot exclude this possibility ) without having +</I>>><i> to have 1 set of gems per application. And again, we will not need to +</I>>><i> handle security ourself ( or at least, no need to do the hard work as +</I>>><i> this is the goal of the security team ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What about seeing with ruby packagers about this? (Kosmas?) +</I> +I can see about that Romain, but using Rails 3 makes gem installation +and dependency solving much easier. +Any suggestion about who I should be contacting? + +><i> +</I>>>><i> 5. Passenger (Apache mod_rails) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> As I told in my answer on the git topic, could we avoid using passenger, +</I>>><i> and switch to fastcgi ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Kosmas, can you check this? +</I> +Yes, this one shouldn't be a problem as I don't have to deal with the +server setup, although having used fastcgi in the past, I can remember +having issues with loading of the application and sometimes not +responding. +But if Michael is willing to look after that it shouldn't be a problem. + +Kosmas +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000134.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000136.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#135">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#135">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#135">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#135">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000136.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000136.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f8ad31c77 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000136.html @@ -0,0 +1,124 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Initial%20hosting%20requirements%20for%20maintainers%20db&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimDD-WexCZp2Br2pOnEOcr9w-f1SNWzZNwpHaFQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000135.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000137.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Initial%20hosting%20requirements%20for%20maintainers%20db&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimDD-WexCZp2Br2pOnEOcr9w-f1SNWzZNwpHaFQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jan 12 11:22:10 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000135.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000137.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#136">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#136">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#136">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#136">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:10, Kosmas Chatzimichalis <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">Kosmas at mach7x.com</A>> wrote: +><i> On 12 January 2011 09:36, Romain d'Alverny <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 02:36, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>>>><i> Le mardi 11 janvier 2011 à 23:07 +0000, Kosmas Chatzimichalis a écrit : +</I>>>>><i> The initial requirements for installing the maintainers db in the +</I>>>>><i> mageia server are: [...] +</I>>>>><i> 1. RVM (Ruby version manager) +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> From what I know, that would likely mean compiling our own ruby version +</I>>>><i> on the server, using its own separate set of gems. [...] +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> What's the possible alternative? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> By using RVM, we won't need a chroot environment for gem installation +</I>><i> as installation can be done in a user's account. +</I>><i> Consequent gem installations don't need sudo permission and are +</I>><i> installed on user's account. +</I> +Something tells me that misc won't find this a consolation. :-p + +Misc, if in the end, hosting a rails stack does make things less +consistent than with other stacks, we may as well set up a host on a +Gandi server and dedicate it (package management and security +mgmt-wise to the rails stack). + +I'm not saying this should be this way but that would be an option to consider. + +>>>><i> 2. Rubygems (1.3.7) +</I>>>>><i> 3. Rails (3.0.3) +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> [...] This would mean for the moment rails 2.3.10 +</I>>>><i> and ruby-RubyGems 1.3.5. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Kosmas, can you backport your app to these versions? +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Can definitely try Romain. +</I> +See with packagers first, but thank you to try Kosmas. + +><i> Just as a note dreamhost updated all their servers to 3.0.3 and +</I>><i> RubyGems 1.3..6 in a matter of few weeks, and although I don't know if +</I>><i> they had problems, I'm sure that they are security conscious about +</I>><i> their servers as well. +</I> +There's no question about it. But Dreamhost is a business, moreover, a +hosting business so they can dedicate way more people/servers about it +than us, at this time. + +>>><i> Moreover, using distribution rpm give everybody the same set of module +</I>>>><i> to work with, if the need to host/develop multiple rails applications +</I>>>><i> arise ( and I think we cannot exclude this possibility ) without having +</I>>>><i> to have 1 set of gems per application. And again, we will not need to +</I>>>><i> handle security ourself ( or at least, no need to do the hard work as +</I>>>><i> this is the goal of the security team ). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> What about seeing with ruby packagers about this? (Kosmas?) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I can see about that Romain, but using Rails 3 makes gem installation +</I>><i> and dependency solving much easier. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Any suggestion about who I should be contacting? +</I> +Try contact pterjan (past maintainers, not sure if he's still active) +and/or shikamaru on #mageia-dev. That would really help I guess. +Thanks a lot! + + +Romain +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000135.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000137.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#136">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#136">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#136">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#136">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000137.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000137.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6fc2fdd3d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000137.html @@ -0,0 +1,137 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Initial%20hosting%20requirements%20for%20maintainers%20db&In-Reply-To=%3C1294829551.32187.293.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000136.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000138.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Initial%20hosting%20requirements%20for%20maintainers%20db&In-Reply-To=%3C1294829551.32187.293.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jan 12 11:52:31 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000136.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000138.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#137">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#137">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#137">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#137">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mercredi 12 janvier 2011 à 11:22 +0100, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +><i> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:10, Kosmas Chatzimichalis <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">Kosmas at mach7x.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > On 12 January 2011 09:36, Romain d'Alverny <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> >> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 02:36, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> >>> Le mardi 11 janvier 2011 à 23:07 +0000, Kosmas Chatzimichalis a écrit : +</I>><i> >>>> The initial requirements for installing the maintainers db in the +</I>><i> >>>> mageia server are: [...] +</I>><i> >>>> 1. RVM (Ruby version manager) +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> From what I know, that would likely mean compiling our own ruby version +</I>><i> >>> on the server, using its own separate set of gems. [...] +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> What's the possible alternative? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > By using RVM, we won't need a chroot environment for gem installation +</I>><i> > as installation can be done in a user's account. +</I>><i> > Consequent gem installations don't need sudo permission and are +</I>><i> > installed on user's account. +</I> +You do install a self compiled separate ruby in a separate prefix, with +a separate set of gems in a different prefix. If the only difference +with a chroot is that you do not need to use "chroot", then there isn't +much difference to me, and then my point was not clear enough. + +><i> Something tells me that misc won't find this a consolation. :-p +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Misc, if in the end, hosting a rails stack does make things less +</I>><i> consistent than with other stacks, we may as well set up a host on a +</I>><i> Gandi server and dedicate it (package management and security +</I>><i> mgmt-wise to the rails stack). +</I> +How would that making it more consistent ? +Moreover, dedicating a vm just mean one more server to handle, that's +hardly can be counted as "less work". + + +><i> I'm not saying this should be this way but that would be an option to consider. +</I> +I do think people do not really understand what I am saying, despite me +asking to 2 set people to read my mail twice. + +Hosting this on alamut ( our shared application server ) or on a gandi +server is the same, we would a different set of non integrated packages. + +Non integrated because that use a totally different system ( ie gem/rvm +vs rpm/urpmi ) with totally different versions ( ie, defined by coders +instead of the one agreed when we decided to use the distribution ), +totally different update mechanism, and with different requirements. + +And those gems would need to be taken care like we do for package since +they are packages. Except we would be on out own. No people to make sure +they work together ( as upstream developers usually do not care at all, +ask shikamaru about the gitorious rpm in cooker and some rpm requiring +older version, and some not ), no people to make sure that security +update occurs with minimal change ( usually that "let's pack all changes +together", which result in more version update than required, with code +changes ). + + +Another option that I consider would be to use another stack. Nanar +already told me that he would be able to do it quite fast in catalyst, +and I consider myself being able to do it in django without much problem +if I dedicate enough time ( I am quite rusty but for a simple CRUD +application, it would be quite ok ). + +><i> > Just as a note dreamhost updated all their servers to 3.0.3 and +</I>><i> > RubyGems 1.3..6 in a matter of few weeks, and although I don't know if +</I>><i> > they had problems, I'm sure that they are security conscious about +</I>><i> > their servers as well. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There's no question about it. But Dreamhost is a business, moreover, a +</I>><i> hosting business so they can dedicate way more people/servers about it +</I>><i> than us, at this time. +</I> +And well, the equivalent with dreamhost would be you to ask them to keep +a custom or old version of rails just for you. I am not sure they would +say "yes". + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000136.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000138.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#137">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#137">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#137">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#137">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000138.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000138.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ae048df8d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000138.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Initial%20hosting%20requirements%20for%20maintainers%20db&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DTEN9ik4tbyc0dajz1VF9s11VneP3pTwrW%2B_-%3D%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000137.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000139.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db</H1> + <B>Kosmas Chatzimichalis</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Initial%20hosting%20requirements%20for%20maintainers%20db&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DTEN9ik4tbyc0dajz1VF9s11VneP3pTwrW%2B_-%3D%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db">Kosmas at mach7x.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jan 12 12:04:55 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000137.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000139.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#138">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#138">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#138">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#138">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> Another option that I consider would be to use another stack. Nanar +</I>><i> already told me that he would be able to do it quite fast in catalyst, +</I>><i> and I consider myself being able to do it in django without much problem +</I>><i> if I dedicate enough time ( I am quite rusty but for a simple CRUD +</I>><i> application, it would be quite ok ). +</I>><i> +</I> +Romain, + +As I've said in the past, I haven't tried to force the building of +this application in the Rails stack. +As this is the stack I'm working with and I like at the moment, and I +would like to help, that's why I've offered to to do it. + +Now if other people can build it in other stacks, that it wouldn't +cause any problem, I don't have any problem with that. + +Just let me know if you need any Ruby on Rails application in the +future, that I can help with. + +Kosmas +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000137.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000139.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#138">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#138">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#138">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#138">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000139.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000139.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f940b1d7d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000139.html @@ -0,0 +1,120 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Initial%20hosting%20requirements%20for%20maintainers%20db&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimoUoMs37nTinws8-HHRfinA2Q0kzOvOtJfOxeU%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000138.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000140.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Initial%20hosting%20requirements%20for%20maintainers%20db&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimoUoMs37nTinws8-HHRfinA2Q0kzOvOtJfOxeU%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jan 12 12:29:14 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000138.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000140.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#139">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#139">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#139">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#139">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:52, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +><i> Le mercredi 12 janvier 2011 à 11:22 +0100, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +</I>>><i> Misc, if in the end, hosting a rails stack does make things less +</I>>><i> consistent than with other stacks, we may as well set up a host on a +</I>>><i> Gandi server and dedicate it (package management and security +</I>>><i> mgmt-wise to the rails stack). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> How would that making it more consistent ? +</I>><i> Moreover, dedicating a vm just mean one more server to handle, that's +</I>><i> hardly can be counted as "less work". +</I> +I never said that. At best, it would just mean, more "isolated"/delegable. + +><i> Non integrated because that use a totally different system ( ie gem/rvm +</I>><i> vs rpm/urpmi ) with totally different versions ( ie, defined by coders +</I>><i> instead of the one agreed when we decided to use the distribution ), +</I>><i> totally different update mechanism, and with different requirements. +</I> +Perfectly aware of that. Or we could as well host it somewhere else, +just to host the application on a matching stack. I'm not saying it's +the best solution, but it may be a temporary option to keep open. + +><i> Another option that I consider would be to use another stack. Nanar +</I>><i> already told me that he would be able to do it quite fast in catalyst, +</I>><i> and I consider myself being able to do it in django without much problem +</I>><i> if I dedicate enough time ( I am quite rusty but for a simple CRUD +</I>><i> application, it would be quite ok ). +</I> +Obviously we still have to learn to let it go at some times, delegate, +welcome newcomers and new ideas, new stacks, if we want ever to grow +the whole thing. It has a cost (flexibility and work), sure, but it +has a payback too. + +Look here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=web#list_of_registered_people">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=web#list_of_registered_people</A> + +There's a huge pool of skills in PHP, Ruby and Django, comparatively +to Perl (that is quoted only once). + +It's not by sticking to a single stack mostly only handled by +sysadmins (Catalyst in this case) that we will achieve that delegation +and growth. I'm not saying it's crap, I'm saying it does not fit the +pool of volunteers we have for contributions in web development. + +That's precisely why I suggested that other stacks may be considered +(Rails, Django, Symfony) for maintainers db. Because it first more our +volunteers. + +><i> And well, the equivalent with dreamhost would be you to ask them to keep +</I>><i> a custom or old version of rails just for you. I am not sure they would +</I>><i> say "yes". +</I> +Sure. But they may have to keep up with updates at some pace because +there is competition on this ground with other hosting services. And +that forces developers, sometimes, to migrate their apps to higher +revisions. + +But it's not the same context as here. Still, and this is why I asked +Kosmas to see with packagers, it would help somehow to find a +solution, if sustainable, to get packages a little bit more up to +date. In this regard, it helps maintainers to have feedback from +developers I guess. + + +Romain +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000138.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000140.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#139">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#139">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#139">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#139">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000140.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000140.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3e4f75c82 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000140.html @@ -0,0 +1,153 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Initial%20hosting%20requirements%20for%20maintainers%20db&In-Reply-To=%3C1294835393.32187.350.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000139.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000141.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Initial%20hosting%20requirements%20for%20maintainers%20db&In-Reply-To=%3C1294835393.32187.350.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jan 12 13:29:53 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000139.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000141.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#140">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#140">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#140">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#140">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mercredi 12 janvier 2011 à 12:29 +0100, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +><i> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:52, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Non integrated because that use a totally different system ( ie gem/rvm +</I>><i> > vs rpm/urpmi ) with totally different versions ( ie, defined by coders +</I>><i> > instead of the one agreed when we decided to use the distribution ), +</I>><i> > totally different update mechanism, and with different requirements. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Perfectly aware of that. Or we could as well host it somewhere else, +</I>><i> just to host the application on a matching stack. I'm not saying it's +</I>><i> the best solution, but it may be a temporary option to keep open. +</I> +Then, as decided in the past for the case of the forum hosting done by +MLO, that would mean no access to ldap if the sysadmin team do not +manage the server. + +However, having a separate account database could be done indeed. +But I think we will quickly agree that it is not a good idea. + + + +><i> > Another option that I consider would be to use another stack. Nanar +</I>><i> > already told me that he would be able to do it quite fast in catalyst, +</I>><i> > and I consider myself being able to do it in django without much problem +</I>><i> > if I dedicate enough time ( I am quite rusty but for a simple CRUD +</I>><i> > application, it would be quite ok ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Obviously we still have to learn to let it go at some times, delegate, +</I>><i> welcome newcomers and new ideas, new stacks, if we want ever to grow +</I>><i> the whole thing. It has a cost (flexibility and work), sure, but it +</I>><i> has a payback too. +</I> +I am just mentioning it for completeness, telling another alternative +that should be also be kept open. + +I am not against rails hosting. I would have told exactly the same to +someone asking to use python-virtualenv and django, or similar +technology on any other language. + +I just ask that using it do not totally disrupt our hosting and +procedures. And I would not ask if I was not sure that it could be +done. + +The current rails stack in Mandriva do not seems to be unusable to the +point to compile our own, as gitorious worked with it among others. And +while I understand that it can be a pain to use older versions of the +stack for a coders, it does seems a so strong requirement. That's still +ruby, that's still rails. + +><i> It's not by sticking to a single stack mostly only handled by +</I>><i> sysadmins (Catalyst in this case) that we will achieve that delegation +</I>><i> and growth. I'm not saying it's crap, I'm saying it does not fit the +</I>><i> pool of volunteers we have for contributions in web development. +</I> +I didn't ask to stick to one stack so sorry if I gave that impression. + +And given the current state of the server, we are already supporting 2 +stack ( django is the other one for transifex ), and also applications +without any kind of web stack ( like bugzilla and sympa ), and planning +to support a 3rd one ( symphony for stormi web application ). + +I would even be ok if people used custom fastcgi from my point of view +( but you prefer to have people use a popular web stack, I perfectly +understand that you set some requirement on that part and concur in that +sense ). + +I am not even against supporting a 4th stack ( namely rails ), despites +the fact that is is more than most commercial shop, since we engineered +the server for that ( ie fast-cgi ). We anticipated the fact that we +would have to cope with everybody using his preferred stack, be it here +or upstream ( ie transifex vs epoll vs gitorious vs custom php +application ). + +So my request is "make and test the application to work with : +- fastcgi, should not be a problem, rails support it +- postgresql ( again, i do not see any complex request that would cause +trouble ) +- our version of rails and ruby ( ie 1.8 or 1.9.1 ), and rails 2.3. +" + +I do not have the impression to ask for the moon, I do not ask for a rpm +package to be done, nor to have a rigorous code review regarding +security, or specific development method, requirement on the +documentation, memory usage, time of response, etc. + +There is nothing exotic to my eye : +- standard version of ruby +- a well know database, respecting SQL 2003 standard +- a specific version of rails, which is unfortunately not the latest + +Nothing that can't be installed ( server just run Mandriva 2010.1 so a +vm or rvm could perfectly mimic the setup ruby wise ), nothing that +would requires esoteric knowledge. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000139.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000141.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#140">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#140">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#140">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#140">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000141.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000141.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5d322bc85 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000141.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Initial%20hosting%20requirements%20for%20maintainers%20db&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Dfw4z6S6wpaiHfj7BKk2HsCaK%2BjzGg4QfxOP%3Dy%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000140.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000146.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Initial%20hosting%20requirements%20for%20maintainers%20db&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Dfw4z6S6wpaiHfj7BKk2HsCaK%2BjzGg4QfxOP%3Dy%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jan 12 13:57:18 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000140.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000146.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#141">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#141">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#141">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#141">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 13:29, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +><i> The current rails stack in Mandriva do not seems to be unusable to the +</I>><i> point to compile our own, as gitorious worked with it among others. And +</I>><i> while I understand that it can be a pain to use older versions of the +</I>><i> stack for a coders, it does seems a so strong requirement. That's still +</I>><i> ruby, that's still rails. +</I> +That's why I asked Kosmas to report the situation to ruby* packagers +of the distribution. We would rather improve ruby-based development +content on Mageia than encourage developers to stay behind. + +><i> So my request is "make and test the application to work with : +</I>><i> - fastcgi, should not be a problem, rails support it +</I>><i> - postgresql ( again, i do not see any complex request that would cause +</I>><i> trouble ) +</I>><i> - our version of rails and ruby ( ie 1.8 or 1.9.1 ), and rails 2.3. +</I> +Already said this morning too. + + +Romain +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000140.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000146.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#141">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#141">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#141">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#141">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000142.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000142.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c7f30be81 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000142.html @@ -0,0 +1,116 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C4D2E0EC4.3040308%40vilarem.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000146.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000143.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs</H1> + <B>Maât</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C4D2E0EC4.3040308%40vilarem.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs">maat-ml at vilarem.net + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jan 12 21:27:48 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000146.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000143.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#142">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#142">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#142">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#142">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi there, + +As it seems VM creation takes a little bit of time due to people being under heavy load at work Anne and misc considered the option of creation the Xen VM on one of our servers (we could migrate the VM on atalante later) + +For that misc asked for Forum needs... + +For the beginning i'll consider that we are going to put everything on the same machine (DB and PHP). This is not rally brilliant to virtualize DB servers but i guess this will not kill the VM in the first monthes as the tables will not be big. + +So phpBB needs a LAMP Stack : Apache + PHP5 + MysSQL5 (it prefers to have MySQLi extention) + +And we'll need with php the optional : +-- zlib compression (better having it) +-- remote ftp support (well... i'm not in favor even if documentation asks for it) +-- XML support (better having it) +-- Image Magick support (better having it) +-- GD support (same as Image magick) + +For source management git will be used... so we'll need it too :) + +As forum have often to face bruteforce having Fail2ban would be really great... for every open service like ssh but also for forums... i'd like to have Fail2ban parse a file of phpBB failed login to trigger a IP low level ban during a few hours or more... + +For forum management we'll need : +-- access to sources (read/write) +-- access to data zones (avatars and uploaded things) (read/write) +-- access to accesslogs and errorlogs (read) +-- hability to change php log levels +-- access to php logs (read) +-- console access to database(s) (i'd prefer to avoid completely phpMyadmin on the forum server) + +For performance questions : i guess forum opening will trigger a rather vast amount of people coming (at least to register their nicks)... i'd be happy to avoid the server being loaded to death. + +So i'm targetting at least one thousand simultaneous users being active on the forum... that will do for apache tuning. + +For database that will mean 800 to 1200 requests per seconds... + +We'll have 2 - 3 monthes to see the tables grow and tune the indexes and the memory accordingly. + +But i think our needs will stabilize around 4-6 GO for RAM if the forum gets really used (we'll have to tune mysql to keep many requests in cache) apache+mysql all included... if we split later apache and mysql on separate machines the needs on each machine will be obviously lower. + +For app disk space code is under 50 megs... and with hundred of avatars uploader we will not grow above 1GO + +For database disk space even after years of activity we'll remain under 5GO + +We'll need to set up some tables with havy read and write accesses with InnoDB (not all) : that would be great to have one file per table innodb option enabled + +Nota : i'd like to use https (at least for admin accesses)... so that will mean to enable ssl and open 443 port also + +That's all for system level... i think directory structures (Which concerns apache web root config) can be dealt with later... + +Tell me if you have got everything you need for VM creation... + +Cheers, + +Maât + + + + + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000146.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000143.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#142">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#142">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#142">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#142">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000143.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000143.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b57b9fca8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000143.html @@ -0,0 +1,151 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3CA31E65CCB1B23F49A8B97A3A0947018D02D24C7D%40EXCHANGE2003.ccq.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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This is not rally brilliant to +</I>><i> virtualize DB servers but i guess this will not kill the VM in the +</I>><i> first monthes as the tables will not be big. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So phpBB needs a LAMP Stack : Apache + PHP5 + MysSQL5 (it prefers to +</I>><i> have MySQLi extention) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And we'll need with php the optional : +</I>><i> -- zlib compression (better having it) +</I>><i> -- remote ftp support (well... i'm not in favor even if documentation +</I>><i> asks for it) +</I>><i> -- XML support (better having it) +</I>><i> -- Image Magick support (better having it) +</I>><i> -- GD support (same as Image magick) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For source management git will be used... so we'll need it too :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As forum have often to face bruteforce having Fail2ban would be really +</I>><i> great... for every open service like ssh but also for forums... i'd +</I>><i> like to have Fail2ban parse a file of phpBB failed login to trigger a +</I>><i> IP low level ban during a few hours or more... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For forum management we'll need : +</I>><i> -- access to sources (read/write) +</I>><i> -- access to data zones (avatars and uploaded things) (read/write) +</I>><i> -- access to accesslogs and errorlogs (read) +</I>><i> -- hability to change php log levels +</I>><i> -- access to php logs (read) +</I>><i> -- console access to database(s) (i'd prefer to avoid completely +</I>><i> phpMyadmin on the forum server) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For performance questions : i guess forum opening will trigger a rather +</I>><i> vast amount of people coming (at least to register their nicks)... i'd +</I>><i> be happy to avoid the server being loaded to death. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So i'm targetting at least one thousand simultaneous users being active +</I>><i> on the forum... that will do for apache tuning. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For database that will mean 800 to 1200 requests per seconds... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We'll have 2 - 3 monthes to see the tables grow and tune the indexes +</I>><i> and the memory accordingly. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But i think our needs will stabilize around 4-6 GO for RAM if the forum +</I>><i> gets really used (we'll have to tune mysql to keep many requests in +</I>><i> cache) apache+mysql all included... if we split later apache and mysql +</I>><i> on separate machines the needs on each machine will be obviously lower. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For app disk space code is under 50 megs... and with hundred of avatars +</I>><i> uploader we will not grow above 1GO +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For database disk space even after years of activity we'll remain under +</I>><i> 5GO +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We'll need to set up some tables with havy read and write accesses with +</I>><i> InnoDB (not all) : that would be great to have one file per table +</I>><i> innodb option enabled +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Nota : i'd like to use https (at least for admin accesses)... so that +</I>><i> will mean to enable ssl and open 443 port also +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's all for system level... i think directory structures (Which +</I>><i> concerns apache web root config) can be dealt with later... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Tell me if you have got everything you need for VM creation... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maât +</I> +Hi Maat, + +I am sincerely happy you suggest it. It could ease and speed things up a +little. xkomodor and I are under pretty heavy load of work right now and for +myself I also have technical issues in installing and connecting to the vms +right now and don't have enough time to spare on it as I would like to. Sorry +for the inconveniences... + + +Patrick Dubeau (alias DaaX) - Webmaster MLO +<A HREF="http://www.mandrivalinux-online.org">http://www.mandrivalinux-online.org</A> + + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000142.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000144.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#143">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#143">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#143">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#143">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000144.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000144.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1eec9ccc3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000144.html @@ -0,0 +1,100 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C20110112213734.GL21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000143.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000145.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs</H1> + <B>nicolas vigier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C20110112213734.GL21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jan 12 22:37:34 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000143.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000145.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#144">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#144">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#144">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#144">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Maât wrote: + +><i> Hi there, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As it seems VM creation takes a little bit of time due to people being under heavy load at work Anne and misc considered the option of creation the Xen VM on one of our servers (we could migrate the VM on atalante later) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For that misc asked for Forum needs... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For the beginning i'll consider that we are going to put everything on the same machine (DB and PHP). This is not rally brilliant to virtualize DB servers but i guess this will not kill the VM in the first monthes as the tables will not be big. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So phpBB needs a LAMP Stack : Apache + PHP5 + MysSQL5 (it prefers to have MySQLi extention) +</I> +Do you know if it would be possible to use Postgresql instead of MySQL ? +We already have a Postgresql server running on alamut that we could use. + +><i> +</I>><i> And we'll need with php the optional : +</I>><i> -- zlib compression (better having it) +</I>><i> -- remote ftp support (well... i'm not in favor even if documentation asks for it) +</I>><i> -- XML support (better having it) +</I>><i> -- Image Magick support (better having it) +</I>><i> -- GD support (same as Image magick) +</I> +Do you have a list of packages needed ? Or config files to change ? + +><i> +</I>><i> For source management git will be used... so we'll need it too :) +</I> +Why do you need source management ? What would be hosted in this +source repository exactly ? + +Do you need modifications in phpBB sources ? + +If that's only for configuration files, we can host them on puppet svn +and deploy them with puppet. + +Can we have access to the sources, list of changes (if changes are +needed), and configuration files somewhere ? + +If a source management is needed, I would use Mageia svn for now, and +later an other source management software when it is setup on Mageia +servers. + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000143.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000145.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#144">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#144">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#144">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#144">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000145.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000145.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3d356bce4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000145.html @@ -0,0 +1,123 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C4D2E25B8.6070509%40vilarem.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000144.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000149.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs</H1> + <B>Maât</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C4D2E25B8.6070509%40vilarem.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs">maat-ml at vilarem.net + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jan 12 23:05:44 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000144.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000149.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#145">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#145">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#145">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#145">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 12/01/2011 22:37, nicolas vigier a écrit : +><i> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Maât wrote: +</I>>><i> Hi there, +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> As it seems VM creation takes a little bit of time due to people being under heavy load at work Anne and misc considered the option of creation the Xen VM on one of our servers (we could migrate the VM on atalante later) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> For that misc asked for Forum needs... +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> For the beginning i'll consider that we are going to put everything on the same machine (DB and PHP). This is not rally brilliant to virtualize DB servers but i guess this will not kill the VM in the first monthes as the tables will not be big. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> So phpBB needs a LAMP Stack : Apache + PHP5 + MysSQL5 (it prefers to have MySQLi extention) +</I>><i> Do you know if it would be possible to use Postgresql instead of MySQL ? +</I>><i> We already have a Postgresql server running on alamut that we could use. +</I>phpBB3 is supposed to work with PostgreSQL 7.3+ though it's not as widely used as MySQL as a phpBB backend. + +The problem (for me) is that i just know the basic of PostgreSQL... so we'll need someone else skilled enough to tune it (and i'd be truly happy to learn from him/her) + +>><i> And we'll need with php the optional : +</I>>><i> -- zlib compression (better having it) +</I>>><i> -- remote ftp support (well... i'm not in favor even if documentation asks for it) +</I>>><i> -- XML support (better having it) +</I>>><i> -- Image Magick support (better having it) +</I>>><i> -- GD support (same as Image magick) +</I>><i> Do you have a list of packages needed ? Or config files to change ? +</I>Nothing to change or configure for these so packaged version would be ok + +(we'll need to play with php.ini, my.cnf and apache config i think that's all) + +I guess all of these come automatically with task-lamp-php + +>><i> For source management git will be used... so we'll need it too :) +</I>><i> Why do you need source management ? What would be hosted in this +</I>><i> source repository exactly ? +</I>><i> +</I>Because wel'll use git to switch from version to version... (.git part will not be under apache web root so this will not affect security) + +There will be a central node repos (somewhere... perhaps github or gitorious) cloned from upstream phpbb... from there we'll clone dev repos to add our changes... templates, mods integrations, specific patches etc. + +We'll clone also integration repos (used for first test level) from which test repos will be cloned and then production will be at the end + +Of these 3 i'd like at least to have test on the server (and production obviously) + +><i> Do you need modifications in phpBB sources ? +</I>><i> +</I>yes... some coming from (more or less) official patches (called "mods") some coming from ash and i and perhaps other php devs + +><i> If that's only for configuration files, we can host them on puppet svn +</I>><i> and deploy them with puppet. +</I>><i> +</I>if you want to play with puppet for production and having us not touching it with our dirty hands (^^) i'm perfectly ok with that... but i neeed a integration and testing forum with cascaded by git cloning (and i need to sync database of test from production to simulate version migration then cancel and replay as much a i need) so that we test our changes (and the migration process) on a perfectly identic env before putting them in production. + +(And git will be the spine of all that process) + +><i> Can we have access to the sources, list of changes (if changes are +</I>><i> needed), and configuration files somewhere ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If a source management is needed, I would use Mageia svn for now, and +</I>><i> later an other source management software when it is setup on Mageia +</I>><i> servers. +</I>Svn does not offer enough flexibility for playing with our repository while keeping a true link with upstream to merge their change with ours without pain :-/ + +(Sorry but here SVN is not an option we should consider viable imho) + + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000144.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000149.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#145">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#145">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#145">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#145">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000146.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000146.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7fef1aa0b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000146.html @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Initial%20hosting%20requirements%20for%20maintainers%20db&In-Reply-To=%3C201101130036.32516.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000141.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000142.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Initial%20hosting%20requirements%20for%20maintainers%20db&In-Reply-To=%3C201101130036.32516.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Jan 13 00:36:32 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000141.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000142.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#146">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#146">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#146">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#146">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op woensdag 12 januari 2011 13:57:18 schreef Romain d'Alverny: +><i> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 13:29, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > The current rails stack in Mandriva do not seems to be unusable to the +</I>><i> > point to compile our own, as gitorious worked with it among others. And +</I>><i> > while I understand that it can be a pain to use older versions of the +</I>><i> > stack for a coders, it does seems a so strong requirement. That's still +</I>><i> > ruby, that's still rails. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's why I asked Kosmas to report the situation to ruby* packagers +</I>><i> of the distribution. We would rather improve ruby-based development +</I>><i> content on Mageia than encourage developers to stay behind. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > So my request is "make and test the application to work with : +</I>><i> > - fastcgi, should not be a problem, rails support it +</I>><i> > - postgresql ( again, i do not see any complex request that would cause +</I>><i> > trouble ) +</I>><i> > - our version of rails and ruby ( ie 1.8 or 1.9.1 ), and rails 2.3. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Already said this morning too. +</I> +I don't mean to intrude, but i thought the idea was to have a quick solution ( +that's why a framework would be best). + +if this needs to be built and tested and configured in puppet; perhaps we +should not use this sort of framework. because the installation and discussion +between teams takes too much time to begin with, imho. + +We can always do it properly later. but i think we need a quick solution. +perhaps something that is already installed like Catalyst or that other +framework. +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000141.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000142.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#146">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#146">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#146">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#146">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000147.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000147.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3fd308b1f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000147.html @@ -0,0 +1,95 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C1294921144.32187.514.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000159.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000151.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C1294921144.32187.514.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Jan 13 13:19:04 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000159.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000151.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#147">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#147">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#147">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#147">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le jeudi 13 janvier 2011 à 13:06 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : +><i> On 12 January 2011 21:27, Maât <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">maat-ml at vilarem.net</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > So phpBB needs a LAMP Stack : Apache + PHP5 + MysSQL5 (it prefers to have MySQLi extention) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> (...) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > For performance questions : i guess forum opening will trigger a rather vast amount of people coming +</I>><i> > (at least to register their nicks)... i'd be happy to avoid the server being loaded to death. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > So i'm targetting at least one thousand simultaneous users being active on the forum... that will do for apache tuning. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> or use nginx instead of apache. +</I>><i> Load peaks are exactly where nginx beats apache (one process per core +</I>><i> vs one process/thread per connection): +</I>><i> - stable memory usage over time +</I>><i> - less unhandled requests on load +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On one server I set up, nginx+php-fpm+mysql handled 1.5 millions +</I>><i> request in one hour with ridiculous load +</I>><i> as well as ridiculous stable memory usage (2gb where most where system +</I>><i> buffers & cache) +</I> +With php as fast-cgi, or using fpm ? + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000159.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000151.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#147">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#147">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#147">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#147">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000148.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000148.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fcfcd4ee0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000148.html @@ -0,0 +1,324 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C1294921744.6060.0.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000150.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000153.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C1294921744.6060.0.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Jan 13 13:29:04 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000150.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000153.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#148">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#148">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#148">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#148">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mercredi 12 janvier 2011 à 21:27 +0100, Maât a écrit : +><i> Hi there, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As it seems VM creation takes a little bit of time due +</I>><i> to people being under heavy load at work Anne and misc +</I>><i> considered the option of creation the Xen VM on one of +</I>><i> our servers (we could migrate the VM on atalante later) +</I> +The exact technology should not matter much, that's also what puppet is +made for. Ie, unless we plan to do a migration at the system image +level, we could simply install the 2nd vm, put puppet, clone the +computer, migrate the db and ip. + +( not that I do not like xen, but I would prefer something else ). + +><i> For that misc asked for Forum needs... +</I> +I think I didn't make myself clear. I wanted information to deploy it +like where is the git stored ( a url, not "it is on a server" ), who +will need what access, etc. But the information you gave are also +important ( and bring lots of question as you can see ). + +><i> For the beginning i'll consider that we are going to put everything on the same machine +</I>><i> (DB and PHP). This is not rally brilliant to virtualize DB servers but i guess this will +</I>><i> not kill the VM in the first monthes as the tables will not be big. +</I> +AFAIK, using virtio and proper cache, this should not be much a problem. + +><i> So phpBB needs a LAMP Stack : Apache + PHP5 + MysSQL5 (it prefers to have MySQLi extention) +</I> +No specific requirement in term of version, using 2010.1 rpm should be +ok, I assume ? + +><i> And we'll need with php the optional : +</I>><i> -- zlib compression (better having it) +</I>><i> -- remote ftp support (well... i'm not in favor even if documentation asks for it) +</I>We could drop outgoing connexion if needed. + +( yes, php make me paranoid in term of security ) + +><i> -- XML support (better having it) +</I>><i> -- Image Magick support (better having it) +</I> +php-image-magick. I do think there is a conspiration to make me have a +stroke. Security research by a friend of mine on ImageMagick do not make +feel safe to know we will use it, but if this is required, we have no +choice. + +Just to know, what will it be used for ( I assume this will be used to +resize avatar ) ? + +><i> -- GD support (same as Image magick) +</I> +Does the forum support suhoshin, or various php hardening measures ? + +Did you do various testing with a hardened configuration with dangerous +call disabled ( mainly remote url access for a start, but i also think +we can use opendir restriction, etc, etc ). + +Does it have non regression testing ( so we can enable stuff and see if +anything break ? ) ? + +><i> For source management git will be used... so we'll need it too :) +</I> +Just git clone ? +I have a puppet module for this, just need tests before I commit. + +For git hosting, again, while I am in favor, there is a few questions to +answer and prepare it, see my previous mail about what is needed. + +><i> As forum have often to face bruteforce having Fail2ban would be really great... +</I>><i> for every open service like ssh +</I> +On ssh level, and for me, that's a vote in favor of "no". We use ssh +keys only for admins, so fail2ban will just cause trouble. + +><i> but also for forums... i'd like to have Fail2ban +</I>><i> parse a file of phpBB failed login to trigger a IP low level ban during a +</I>><i> few hours or more... +</I> +Well, if you give us the configuration, we can see. +We can also use the trick that Olivier deployed on d-c to avoid numerous +connexions from the same IP ( in case someone decide to be smart and do +simultaneous attempts to log ). + +><i> For forum management we'll need : +</I> +>>><i> we +</I>Traceback (most recent call last): + File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module> +NameError: name 'we' is not defined + +or for those who are not CxO-fluent ( private joke ), who is 'we', in +term of organisation ( ie, do we need to create a ldap group, etc ) ? + +><i> -- access to sources (read/write) +</I>I rather keep this automated from git, for security reasons and to avoid +human errors. I would even add a cron job that does a git diff or +something similar, to detect if someone uploaded a file manually, or +touched to it using apache. + +In fact, as a security measure, I think the user that will write the +source should put it read only for apache. Ie, use a separate system +user for that. + +><i> -- access to data zones (avatars and uploaded things) (read/write) +</I>You mean apache will need it, no ? + +Direct access seems to me a pretty rare event, we can grant access if +there is a really lots of request, ie if you annoy admin enough to make +them give it rather than doing themselves. + +><i> -- access to accesslogs and errorlogs (read) +</I>then this should be merged with the webmasters concept that romain +explained. For now, we didn't setup anything ( we didn't even split log +file on alamut, even if this should be trivial ). + +><i> -- ability to change php log levels +</I>This can be done by php, I think. + +><i> -- access to php logs (read) +</I>same as accesslogs + +><i> -- console access to database(s) (i'd prefer to avoid completely phpMyadmin on the forum server) +</I>I would prefer avoid giving console access until there is a real need. I would favor then a remote +mysql access, and forcing ssl, maybe even limited by fixed ip address if you wish to avoid bruteforce. + +( I will not go to the point of proposing to use a vpn too, but +almost ). + +Maybe we could think of some kind of ssh bastion for such access ( or +maybe that's overkill too ). + +><i> For performance questions : i guess forum opening will trigger a rather vast +</I>><i> amount of people coming (at least to register their nicks)... i'd be happy to +</I>><i> avoid the server being loaded to death. +</I> +Registration will be done on catdap from what I think we agreed on, no ? +( correct me if I am wrong ). + +So we need to work on that part ( starting more processes, and so +letting us tune that with puppet ( this is hardcoded now, AFAIK ). So +depending on where we host the forum, we can surely avoid this effect. + +><i> So i'm targetting at least one thousand simultaneous users being active on the +</I>><i> forum... that will do for apache tuning. +</I> +Ok so let's say 120 simultaneous process for apache, which also mean we +need to keep apache process as lean as possible ( ie, no unused module +loaded ). I assume that there is no guarantee on being thread safe from +php and associated library, so we will use mpm-prefork. + +Since the server is isolated and serve only for php hosting, I guess +using fast-cgi will not bring much to the equation, when compared to +mod_php. + +Let's also assume 30 processes for forum registration on catdap ( if I +am not wrong on that part, of course ) ? We could surely mitigate the +potential overload by not announcing this on every possible channel at +the same time ( ie, first a mail, then a blog post, then +identica/twitter ). + +Should we also maybe need to tune ldap ? + +><i> For database that will mean 800 to 1200 requests per seconds... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We'll have 2 - 3 months to see the tables grow and tune the indexes and the memory accordingly. +</I> +That mean that we will have to deploy some monitoring, and we didn't +decided anything ( buchan proposed hobbit, I proposed munin, purely by +familiarity ). + +What metrics would you need so we can work on them in priority ( once we +start to set up something ) ? + +><i> But i think our needs will stabilize around 4-6 GO for RAM if the forum gets really +</I>><i> used (we'll have to tune mysql to keep many requests in cache) apache+mysql all +</I>><i> included... if we split later apache and mysql on separate machines the needs on +</I>><i> each machine will be obviously lower. +</I> +No cache ( squid, varnish ) ? +No php level cache too ? + +( not that it may be requested now ) + +><i> For app disk space code is under 50 megs... and with hundred of avatars uploader +</I>><i> we will not grow above 1GO +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For database disk space even after years of activity we'll remain under 5GO +</I> +Ok so let's allocate a 10 g partition for the db + ssthat on lvm. +We should take in account logs, and logs backup ( french law requires 1 +year of logs ). + +How many logs are to be expected per day ? +The only busy webserver I can think of is d-c, but Nanar and I just +discovered that the configuration is not good. +So now, that's 5g of log, uncompressed, per month. + + +><i> We'll need to set up some tables with heavy read and write accesses with InnoDB (not all) : +</I>><i> that would be great to have one file per table innodb option enabled +</I> +Ok, I guess it should be safe to enable it for all mysql db I guess. + +><i> Nota : i'd like to use https (at least for admin accesses)... so that will mean to enable +</I>><i> ssl and open 443 port also +</I> +We did not plan to let people use their password under cleartext at all. +Centralized auth have been setup ( and should be used for forum too ), +so people will reuse their password, the same used at others part of the +infrastructure, and that mean svn, or bugzilla, etc. Since people with +access will use it, no cleartext at all when the password is sent ( or +over my dead body, after fighting my ghost ). + +I guess we can make exception for the cookie, as long as it is not +shared ( ie, we will have to rethink the scheme if we deploy SSO ). + +That also mean that people will complain because of firefox if we do not +buy a certificate. + + +><i> That's all for system level... i think directory structures (Which concerns apache web root config) can be dealt with later... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Tell me if you have got everything you need for VM creation... +</I> +What I needed was more information for forum deployment, not vm +requirements, I guess I didn't express myself clearly. The requirement +for the vm in term of memory/disk have been roughly drafted before. What +I would prefer is a deployment document. + +Ideally, I would also prefer that discussion regarding forum development +occurs on public ml ( for webteam here ) rather than private mail +exchange. + +So @sysadmins, where do we host this ( for temporary creation and setup +until MLO do it ) : + +10 g of disk ( let's say 20 ) +4 to 6 g of ram +( and I guess 1 or cpu ). + +Alamut ? + + +In term of network, do we use a reverse proxy, or do we ask for a ip to +LO. I would suggest a reverse proxy, easier to setup ( and no fiddling +with bridge ). + + +What virt technology ? + +I am quite biased in favor of libvirtd + kvm + virt-manager, as this is +supported by upstream and redhat, but maybe other have different +experiences. + +-- +Michael Scherer + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000150.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000153.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#148">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#148">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#148">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#148">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000149.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000149.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..47731a910 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000149.html @@ -0,0 +1,168 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C1294921772.6060.1.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000145.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000152.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C1294921772.6060.1.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Jan 13 13:29:32 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000145.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000152.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#149">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#149">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#149">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#149">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mercredi 12 janvier 2011 à 23:05 +0100, Maât a écrit : +><i> Le 12/01/2011 22:37, nicolas vigier a écrit : +</I>><i> > On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Maât wrote: +</I> +><i> >> So phpBB needs a LAMP Stack : Apache + PHP5 + MysSQL5 (it prefers to have MySQLi extention) +</I>><i> > Do you know if it would be possible to use Postgresql instead of MySQL ? +</I>><i> > We already have a Postgresql server running on alamut that we could use. +</I>><i> phpBB3 is supposed to work with PostgreSQL 7.3+ though it's not as widely used as MySQL as a phpBB backend. +</I> +Great, so more testing to do /o\ + +><i> The problem (for me) is that i just know the basic of PostgreSQL... so we'll need someone else skilled +</I>><i> enough to tune it (and i'd be truly happy to learn from him/her) +</I> +Nanar will be able to do it, even if hosting a small database like this +may not be very appealing to him. There is just 5g, when compared to +sophie, I let him give the numbers. + +But I would prefer to have it hosted on mysql if we later migrate to +another vm. The lag Marseille <-> Toulouse will not be good if it can be +avoided. We could also setup a different postgresql server on the forum +vm in this case. + +In any case, postgresql to mysql conversion doesn't look doable. + +><i> There will be a central node repos (somewhere... perhaps github or gitorious) cloned from upstream +</I>><i> phpbb... from there we'll clone dev repos to add our changes... templates, mods integrations, specific patches etc. +</I> +I would prefer to have it hosted on our servers, for various and obvious +reasons ( like : "handling the auth and permission ourself" "proper +bugtracker integration", etc ). + +But we are not ready, see my answer about gitorious. So here is a +proposal in 4 steps : + +Now : +- we do a git checkout every 5 minutes ( just need the url, and +testing ) + +Later ( like short term ): +- sysadmins do work to have a git repository, who will be the exact +state of production, and be the reference. That where changes are +pushed, and where the server take his checkout. So this way, the project +handle who can push to it using ldap (unification of auth, delegatation +etc ). + +Later again ( like mid term ) : +- you express your needs in term of hosting ( like what type of hook, +requirement in term of web interface, "need to do review" "need to show +dancing hamster" , etc ) when we do a call for that ( you can do before, +but this will potentially be lost ). + +Once we have installed this : +- you switch to our infrastructure. + +><i> We'll clone also integration repos (used for first test level) from which test +</I>><i> repos will be cloned and then production will be at the end +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of these 3 i'd like at least to have test on the server (and production obviously) +</I> +Since we do have puppet and can clone machine, I would then prefer to +have a separate vm for test than for production, unless there is problem +with the intended usage (like you really need to have the exact same +hardware, for load testing purpose ). + +><i> > Do you need modifications in phpBB sources ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> yes... some coming from (more or less) official patches (called "mods") some coming from ash and i and perhaps other php devs +</I> +/me close eyes when reading "(more of less) official patches". + +><i> > If that's only for configuration files, we can host them on puppet svn +</I>><i> > and deploy them with puppet. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> if you want to play with puppet for production and having us not touching it with our dirty hands (^^) i'm perfectly ok with +</I>><i> that... but i neeed a integration and testing forum with cascaded by git cloning +</I>><i> (and i need to sync database of test from production to simulate version migration then cancel and replay as much a i need) +</I> +Could we do it with a master/slave replication without much trouble ? +( and possibly, one that would automatically recreate the db once it is +dropped ) + +Or we can do snapshot using lvm, but I think this can be quite fragile. + + +><i> so that we test our changes (and the migration process) on a perfectly identic env before putting them in production. +</I> +As said, I would strongly favor a automated deployment using git, at +least on production server. + +><i> (And git will be the spine of all that process) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Can we have access to the sources, list of changes (if changes are +</I>><i> > needed), and configuration files somewhere ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > If a source management is needed, I would use Mageia svn for now, and +</I>><i> > later an other source management software when it is setup on Mageia +</I>><i> > servers. +</I>><i> Svn does not offer enough flexibility for playing with our repository while +</I>><i> keeping a true link with upstream to merge their change with ours without pain :-/ +</I>><i> +</I>><i> (Sorry but here SVN is not an option we should consider viable imho) +</I> +As I said, if people want us to host git, there is a few questions to +answer first ( I guess that 2 weeks to gather requirement should +suffice, given proper flamewar handling ) + +-- +Michael Scherer + + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000145.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000152.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#149">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#149">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#149">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#149">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000150.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000150.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d9f641c25 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000150.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimbSg3AkAhhtUh_W3KuTz7Q_OgeXdTcxZyJ3E0C%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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There is just 5g, when compared to +</I>><i> sophie, I let him give the numbers. +</I> +Sophie: +- on disk size: ~ 200GB +- biggers tables, rows estimated to 150 millions, next table 16 millions +- 1208570 rpms in it currently + +I manage 5 posgresql servers at works. + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-webteam/attachments/20110113/3ae129a4/attachment-0001.asc> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000149.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000154.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#152">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#152">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#152">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#152">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000153.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000153.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1ed87c965 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000153.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C1294924501.6060.7.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000148.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000156.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C1294924501.6060.7.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Jan 13 14:15:01 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000148.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000156.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#153">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#153">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#153">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#153">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le jeudi 13 janvier 2011 à 13:29 +0100, Michael Scherer a écrit : + +><i> How many logs are to be expected per day ? +</I>><i> The only busy webserver I can think of is d-c, but Nanar and I just +</I>><i> discovered that the configuration is not good. +</I>><i> So now, that's 5g of log, uncompressed, per month. +</I> +And 165m, once compressed in bz2 ( but it took like 1 hour ) + +( for access.log ). + +I guess we should dedicate 30/35g to logs, maybe more ? +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000148.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000156.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#153">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#153">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#153">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#153">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000154.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000154.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..815dd6f12 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000154.html @@ -0,0 +1,100 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20%20%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C4D3031C1.1010008%40vilarem.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000152.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000155.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs</H1> + <B>Maât</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20%20%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C4D3031C1.1010008%40vilarem.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs">maat-ml at vilarem.net + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Jan 14 12:21:37 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000152.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000155.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#154">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#154">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#154">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#154">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 13/01/2011 13:50, Olivier Thauvin a écrit : +><i> * Michael Scherer (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>) wrote: +</I>>><i> Le mercredi 12 janvier 2011 à 23:05 +0100, Maât a écrit : +</I>>>><i> Le 12/01/2011 22:37, nicolas vigier a écrit : +</I>>>>><i> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Maât wrote: +</I>>>>>><i> So phpBB needs a LAMP Stack : Apache + PHP5 + MysSQL5 (it prefers to have MySQLi extention) +</I>>>>><i> Do you know if it would be possible to use Postgresql instead of MySQL ? +</I>>>>><i> We already have a Postgresql server running on alamut that we could use. +</I>>>><i> phpBB3 is supposed to work with PostgreSQL 7.3+ though it's not as widely used as MySQL as a phpBB backend. +</I>>><i> Great, so more testing to do /o\ +</I>><i> In practice, if the SQL was properly written, the SQL must work on any +</I>><i> PGSQL version, especially since it have to work on other SQL server +</I>><i> (mysql). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But who know with php apps. +</I>><i> +</I>Troll™ detected ^^ + +>>><i> The problem (for me) is that i just know the basic of PostgreSQL... so we'll need someone else skilled +</I>>>><i> enough to tune it (and i'd be truly happy to learn from him/her) +</I>>><i> Nanar will be able to do it, even if hosting a small database like this +</I>>><i> may not be very appealing to him. There is just 5g, when compared to +</I>>><i> sophie, I let him give the numbers. +</I>><i> Sophie: +</I>><i> - on disk size: ~ 200GB +</I>><i> - biggers tables, rows estimated to 150 millions, next table 16 millions +</I>><i> - 1208570 rpms in it currently +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I manage 5 posgresql servers at works. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>\o/ Master ! + +Teach me :) + +Nota : the difficult part with a forum is not really in the table size for tuning but in the complexity of requests with lots of joins mixed with the number of simultaneous read&write calls which can quickly make the server bite the dust :-/ + +=> clever indexing, good cache and memory tuning, good storage format (to avoid pessimistic table locking and to allow quick parsing with sometimes fulltext indexes) + +(and database backup while users are using the forum without making it unusable can also be a challenge) + +cheers, +Maât + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000152.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000155.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#154">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#154">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#154">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#154">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000155.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000155.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..64df57738 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000155.html @@ -0,0 +1,157 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C4D317B0E.2000905%40vilarem.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000154.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000157.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs</H1> + <B>Maât</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C4D317B0E.2000905%40vilarem.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs">maat-ml at vilarem.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jan 15 11:46:38 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000154.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000157.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#155">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#155">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#155">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#155">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 13/01/2011 13:29, Michael Scherer a écrit : + +----8<---- +><i> In any case, postgresql to mysql conversion doesn't look doable. +</I>><i> +</I>It could be done using things like TOS + +>><i> There will be a central node repos (somewhere... perhaps github or gitorious) cloned from upstream +</I>>><i> phpbb... from there we'll clone dev repos to add our changes... templates, mods integrations, specific patches etc. +</I>><i> I would prefer to have it hosted on our servers, for various and obvious +</I>><i> reasons ( like : "handling the auth and permission ourself" "proper +</I>><i> bugtracker integration", etc ). +</I>Indeed + +><i> But we are not ready, see my answer about gitorious. So here is a +</I>><i> proposal in 4 steps : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Now : +</I>><i> - we do a git checkout every 5 minutes ( just need the url, and +</I>><i> testing ) +</I>Ouch + +><i> Later ( like short term ): +</I>><i> - sysadmins do work to have a git repository, who will be the exact +</I>><i> state of production, and be the reference. That where changes are +</I>><i> pushed, and where the server take his checkout. So this way, the project +</I>><i> handle who can push to it using ldap (unification of auth, delegatation +</I>><i> etc ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Later again ( like mid term ) : +</I>><i> - you express your needs in term of hosting ( like what type of hook, +</I>><i> requirement in term of web interface, "need to do review" "need to show +</I>><i> dancing hamster" , etc ) when we do a call for that ( you can do before, +</I>><i> but this will potentially be lost ). +</I>ok for that + +><i> Once we have installed this : +</I>><i> - you switch to our infrastructure. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> We'll clone also integration repos (used for first test level) from which test +</I>>><i> repos will be cloned and then production will be at the end +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Of these 3 i'd like at least to have test on the server (and production obviously) +</I>><i> Since we do have puppet and can clone machine, I would then prefer to +</I>><i> have a separate vm for test than for production, unless there is problem +</I>><i> with the intended usage (like you really need to have the exact same +</I>><i> hardware, for load testing purpose ). +</I>Nope... the we don't need to have cascading git repos... each integration/testing/production can be cloned from reference + +>>><i> Do you need modifications in phpBB sources ? +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> yes... some coming from (more or less) official patches (called "mods") some coming from ash and i and perhaps other php devs +</I>><i> /me close eyes when reading "(more of less) official patches". +</I>><i> +</I>That's the way phpBB people deals with "mods" : authors (not phpBB Team) publish them on the mods dedicated forum, and you are free to use (or not) them without warranty at all some are widely used and well known to be stable... + +That's why integration and testing stages are so important + +>>><i> If that's only for configuration files, we can host them on puppet svn +</I>>>><i> and deploy them with puppet. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> if you want to play with puppet for production and having us not touching it with our dirty hands (^^) i'm perfectly ok with +</I>>><i> that... but i neeed a integration and testing forum with cascaded by git cloning +</I>>><i> (and i need to sync database of test from production to simulate version migration then cancel and replay as much a i need) +</I>><i> Could we do it with a master/slave replication without much trouble ? +</I>><i> ( and possibly, one that would automatically recreate the db once it is +</I>><i> dropped ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Or we can do snapshot using lvm, but I think this can be quite fragile. +</I>><i> +</I>Nope... master/slave replication will not fit my needs : i need 2 separate bases. The production i won't play with it. + +For testing : once i updated the code to the new version there can be SQL modifications : new tables, alter tables, insert or update for rows... + +This will be triggered from admin board of phpBB... with a master/slave this would be forbidden or would brake replication + +But we could perfectly use the last (nightly ,) production backup to populate the test base when i need to go back to "clean production state" + + +>><i> so that we test our changes (and the migration process) on a perfectly identic env before putting them in production. +</I>><i> As said, I would strongly favor a automated deployment using git, at +</I>><i> least on production server. +</I>ok for me + +>><i> (And git will be the spine of all that process) +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Can we have access to the sources, list of changes (if changes are +</I>>>><i> needed), and configuration files somewhere ? +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> If a source management is needed, I would use Mageia svn for now, and +</I>>>><i> later an other source management software when it is setup on Mageia +</I>>>><i> servers. +</I>>><i> Svn does not offer enough flexibility for playing with our repository while +</I>>><i> keeping a true link with upstream to merge their change with ours without pain :-/ +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> (Sorry but here SVN is not an option we should consider viable imho) +</I>><i> As I said, if people want us to host git, there is a few questions to +</I>><i> answer first ( I guess that 2 weeks to gather requirement should +</I>><i> suffice, given proper flamewar handling ) +</I> + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000154.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000157.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#155">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#155">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#155">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#155">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000156.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000156.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6fe1b44de --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000156.html @@ -0,0 +1,335 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C4D3187E0.8090504%40vilarem.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000153.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000159.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs</H1> + <B>Maât</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C4D3187E0.8090504%40vilarem.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs">maat-ml at vilarem.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jan 15 12:41:20 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000153.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000159.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#156">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#156">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#156">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#156">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 13/01/2011 13:29, Michael Scherer a écrit : +><i> Le mercredi 12 janvier 2011 à 21:27 +0100, Maât a écrit : +</I>>><i> Hi there, +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> As it seems VM creation takes a little bit of time due +</I>>><i> to people being under heavy load at work Anne and misc +</I>>><i> considered the option of creation the Xen VM on one of +</I>>><i> our servers (we could migrate the VM on atalante later) +</I>><i> The exact technology should not matter much, that's also what puppet is +</I>><i> made for. Ie, unless we plan to do a migration at the system image +</I>><i> level, we could simply install the 2nd vm, put puppet, clone the +</I>><i> computer, migrate the db and ip. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ( not that I do not like xen, but I would prefer something else ). +</I>Well I mentionned Xen because Atalante uses it... but if this is not a problem for puppet then ok for me :) + + +>><i> For that misc asked for Forum needs... +</I>><i> I think I didn't make myself clear. I wanted information to deploy it +</I>><i> like where is the git stored ( a url, not "it is on a server" ), who +</I>><i> will need what access, etc. But the information you gave are also +</I>><i> important ( and bring lots of question as you can see ). +</I>><i> +</I>Atm it's stored on Ennael's dedibox :) + + + +>><i> For the beginning i'll consider that we are going to put everything on the same machine +</I>>><i> (DB and PHP). This is not rally brilliant to virtualize DB servers but i guess this will +</I>>><i> not kill the VM in the first monthes as the tables will not be big. +</I>><i> AFAIK, using virtio and proper cache, this should not be much a problem. +</I>ok then + +>><i> So phpBB needs a LAMP Stack : Apache + PHP5 + MysSQL5 (it prefers to have MySQLi extention) +</I>><i> No specific requirement in term of version, using 2010.1 rpm should be +</I>><i> ok, I assume ? +</I>indeed + +>><i> And we'll need with php the optional : +</I>>><i> -- zlib compression (better having it) +</I>>><i> -- remote ftp support (well... i'm not in favor even if documentation asks for it) +</I>><i> We could drop outgoing connexion if needed. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ( yes, php make me paranoid in term of security ) +</I>><i> +</I>quite understandable :o) + +>><i> -- XML support (better having it) +</I>>><i> -- Image Magick support (better having it) +</I>><i> php-image-magick. I do think there is a conspiration to make me have a +</I>><i> stroke. Security research by a friend of mine on ImageMagick do not make +</I>><i> feel safe to know we will use it, but if this is required, we have no +</I>><i> choice. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Just to know, what will it be used for ( I assume this will be used to +</I>><i> resize avatar ) ? +</I>yes +>><i> -- GD support (same as Image magick) +</I>><i> Does the forum support suhoshin, or various php hardening measures ? +</I>><i> +</I>Dunno... but we can check that. phpBB forum's got a few threads of errors mentionning suhosin but i suspect they did not try very hard + +><i> Did you do various testing with a hardened configuration with dangerous +</I>><i> call disabled ( mainly remote url access for a start, but i also think +</I>><i> we can use opendir restriction, etc, etc ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Does it have non regression testing ( so we can enable stuff and see if +</I>><i> anything break ? ) ? +</I>><i> +</I>Testing and integration envs are perfect for that :) + + +>><i> For source management git will be used... so we'll need it too :) +</I>><i> Just git clone ? +</I>><i> I have a puppet module for this, just need tests before I commit. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For git hosting, again, while I am in favor, there is a few questions to +</I>><i> answer and prepare it, see my previous mail about what is needed. +</I>><i> +</I>we need cloning, branch/tag switching and sync with reference repos + +>><i> As forum have often to face bruteforce having Fail2ban would be really great... +</I>>><i> for every open service like ssh +</I>><i> On ssh level, and for me, that's a vote in favor of "no". We use ssh +</I>><i> keys only for admins, so fail2ban will just cause trouble. +</I>... + +>><i> but also for forums... i'd like to have Fail2ban +</I>>><i> parse a file of phpBB failed login to trigger a IP low level ban during a +</I>>><i> few hours or more... +</I>><i> Well, if you give us the configuration, we can see. +</I>ok + +><i> We can also use the trick that Olivier deployed on d-c to avoid numerous +</I>><i> connexions from the same IP ( in case someone decide to be smart and do +</I>><i> simultaneous attempts to log ). +</I>ok too... i'm curious to see what the trick is :) + +>><i> For forum management we'll need : +</I>><i> ---- 8<---- +</I>><i> or for those who are not CxO-fluent ( private joke ), who is 'we', in +</I>><i> term of organisation ( ie, do we need to create a ldap group, etc ) ? +</I>><i> +</I>We = those who maintain forum at forum admin level (ash and i atm) + +For integration and testing we'll prehaps need a little bit more + +For production you can keep that for sysadmins i guess (till now i got to be sysadmin & forum admin so this will need a little bit of tuning to adapt myself) + +>><i> -- access to sources (read/write) +</I>><i> I rather keep this automated from git, for security reasons and to avoid +</I>><i> human errors. I would even add a cron job that does a git diff or +</I>><i> something similar, to detect if someone uploaded a file manually, or +</I>><i> touched to it using apache. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In fact, as a security measure, I think the user that will write the +</I>><i> source should put it read only for apache. Ie, use a separate system +</I>><i> user for that. +</I>yup that's wise + +but some dirs (avatars upload dir, file upload dir, emoticon uplad dir, cache dir) will need to be writable for apache... + +>><i> -- access to data zones (avatars and uploaded things) (read/write) +</I>><i> You mean apache will need it, no ? +</I>indeed... apache will need it in the fist place, but sometimes there can be need to delete an avatar, resize it, replace it with something not offensive, make it read only to prevent user re-changing again and again... + +><i> Direct access seems to me a pretty rare event, we can grant access if +</I>><i> there is a really lots of request, ie if you annoy admin enough to make +</I>><i> them give it rather than doing themselves. +</I>Well you're right we can tune organisation later... so let's say that sysadmin will take care of low level tasks on production forum... + +>><i> -- access to accesslogs and errorlogs (read) +</I>><i> then this should be merged with the webmasters concept that romain +</I>><i> explained. For now, we didn't setup anything ( we didn't even split log +</I>><i> file on alamut, even if this should be trivial ). +</I>><i> +</I>indeed forum admins have obviously tasks that are close to this "webmaster" concept + +>><i> -- ability to change php log levels +</I>><i> This can be done by php, I think. +</I>><i> +</I>if php global config allows it. + +>><i> -- access to php logs (read) +</I>><i> same as accesslogs +</I>yup + +>><i> -- console access to database(s) (i'd prefer to avoid completely phpMyadmin on the forum server) +</I>><i> I would prefer avoid giving console access until there is a real need. I would favor then a remote +</I>><i> mysql access, and forcing ssl, maybe even limited by fixed ip address if you wish to avoid bruteforce. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ( I will not go to the point of proposing to use a vpn too, but +</I>><i> almost ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe we could think of some kind of ssh bastion for such access ( or +</I>><i> maybe that's overkill too ). +</I>><i> +</I>well for forum administration i daily use sql CLI because that's loads more effective than using phpBB SQL interface or uglier things like phpMyadmin :-/ + +>><i> For performance questions : i guess forum opening will trigger a rather vast +</I>>><i> amount of people coming (at least to register their nicks)... i'd be happy to +</I>>><i> avoid the server being loaded to death. +</I>><i> Registration will be done on catdap from what I think we agreed on, no ? +</I>><i> ( correct me if I am wrong ). +</I>you are right but once registered they'll go to the forum (in particular if they came to registration form through a link on the forum) + +><i> So we need to work on that part ( starting more processes, and so +</I>><i> letting us tune that with puppet ( this is hardcoded now, AFAIK ). So +</I>><i> depending on where we host the forum, we can surely avoid this effect. +</I>:<i>-/ +</I> +>><i> So i'm targetting at least one thousand simultaneous users being active on the +</I>>><i> forum... that will do for apache tuning. +</I>><i> Ok so let's say 120 simultaneous process for apache, which also mean we +</I>><i> need to keep apache process as lean as possible ( ie, no unused module +</I>><i> loaded ). I assume that there is no guarantee on being thread safe from +</I>><i> php and associated library, so we will use mpm-prefork. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Since the server is isolated and serve only for php hosting, I guess +</I>><i> using fast-cgi will not bring much to the equation, when compared to +</I>><i> mod_php. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Let's also assume 30 processes for forum registration on catdap ( if I +</I>><i> am not wrong on that part, of course ) ? We could surely mitigate the +</I>><i> potential overload by not announcing this on every possible channel at +</I>><i> the same time ( ie, first a mail, then a blog post, then +</I>><i> identica/twitter ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Should we also maybe need to tune ldap ? +</I>well nginx could be an option as Thierry said... dunno if ldap will be loaded though + + +>><i> For database that will mean 800 to 1200 requests per seconds... +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> We'll have 2 - 3 months to see the tables grow and tune the indexes and the memory accordingly. +</I>><i> That mean that we will have to deploy some monitoring, and we didn't +</I>><i> decided anything ( buchan proposed hobbit, I proposed munin, purely by +</I>><i> familiarity ). +</I>><i> +</I>That can be done a little bit later :) + +><i> What metrics would you need so we can work on them in priority ( once we +</I>><i> start to set up something ) ? +</I>><i> +</I>the ram used by database and by the web server, the number of threads, the cpu load, and perhaps some data from the database server (cache fill level, number of locked requests, time taken by long requests - over 1 sec -)... + +>><i> But i think our needs will stabilize around 4-6 GO for RAM if the forum gets really +</I>>><i> used (we'll have to tune mysql to keep many requests in cache) apache+mysql all +</I>>><i> included... if we split later apache and mysql on separate machines the needs on +</I>>><i> each machine will be obviously lower. +</I>><i> No cache ( squid, varnish ) ? +</I>><i> No php level cache too ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ( not that it may be requested now ) +</I>we can see that later indeed :) + +>><i> For app disk space code is under 50 megs... and with hundred of avatars uploader +</I>>><i> we will not grow above 1GO +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> For database disk space even after years of activity we'll remain under 5GO +</I>><i> Ok so let's allocate a 10 g partition for the db + ssthat on lvm. +</I>><i> We should take in account logs, and logs backup ( french law requires 1 +</I>><i> year of logs ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> How many logs are to be expected per day ? +</I>><i> The only busy webserver I can think of is d-c, but Nanar and I just +</I>><i> discovered that the configuration is not good. +</I>><i> So now, that's 5g of log, uncompressed, per month. +</I>><i> +</I>it will depend on the success of mageia but that can be rather high + + +>><i> We'll need to set up some tables with heavy read and write accesses with InnoDB (not all) : +</I>>><i> that would be great to have one file per table innodb option enabled +</I>><i> Ok, I guess it should be safe to enable it for all mysql db I guess. +</I>yes + +>><i> Nota : i'd like to use https (at least for admin accesses)... so that will mean to enable +</I>>><i> ssl and open 443 port also +</I>><i> We did not plan to let people use their password under cleartext at all. +</I>><i> Centralized auth have been setup ( and should be used for forum too ), +</I>><i> so people will reuse their password, the same used at others part of the +</I>><i> infrastructure, and that mean svn, or bugzilla, etc. Since people with +</I>><i> access will use it, no cleartext at all when the password is sent ( or +</I>><i> over my dead body, after fighting my ghost ). +</I>so https for all ? ok for me but that will be a little bit heavier for cpu + +><i> I guess we can make exception for the cookie, as long as it is not +</I>><i> shared ( ie, we will have to rethink the scheme if we deploy SSO ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That also mean that people will complain because of firefox if we do not +</I>><i> buy a certificate. +</I>><i> +</I>:<i>-( +</I> +>><i> That's all for system level... i think directory structures (Which concerns apache web root config) can be dealt with later... +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Tell me if you have got everything you need for VM creation... +</I>><i> What I needed was more information for forum deployment, not vm +</I>><i> requirements, I guess I didn't express myself clearly. The requirement +</I>><i> for the vm in term of memory/disk have been roughly drafted before. What +</I>><i> I would prefer is a deployment document. +</I>><i> +</I>ash and i are writing one atm + +your mail changes some things... so let's adapt it :) + +----8<---- + +(pfeeew... sorry for the length guy) + +Maât + + + + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000153.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000159.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#156">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#156">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#156">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#156">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000157.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000157.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..717ce154c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000157.html @@ -0,0 +1,144 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20%20%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C20110115151159.GB23639%40sisay.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000155.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000158.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs</H1> + <B>Michael scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20%20%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C20110115151159.GB23639%40sisay.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jan 15 16:11:59 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000155.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000158.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#157">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#157">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#157">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#157">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:46:38AM +0100, Maât wrote: +><i> Le 13/01/2011 13:29, Michael Scherer a écrit : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ----8<---- +</I>><i> > In any case, postgresql to mysql conversion doesn't look doable. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> It could be done using things like TOS +</I> +Url ? + +><i> > But we are not ready, see my answer about gitorious. So here is a +</I>><i> > proposal in 4 steps : +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Now : +</I>><i> > - we do a git checkout every 5 minutes ( just need the url, and +</I>><i> > testing ) +</I>><i> Ouch +</I> +Why ouch ? + +5 minutes is too often, not often enough ? +( this is configurable, as this is based on cron ) + +I would prefer a pull based approach rather than push, because +1) this is already written +2) this is more secure + +But it may not be good for deployment. + +><i> >>> Do you need modifications in phpBB sources ? +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >> yes... some coming from (more or less) official patches (called "mods") some coming from ash +</I>><i> >> and i and perhaps other php devs +</I>><i> > /me close eyes when reading "(more of less) official patches". +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> That's the way phpBB people deals with "mods" : authors (not phpBB Team) publish them on the mods +</I>><i> dedicated forum, and you are free to use (or not) them without warranty at all some are widely +</I>><i> used and well known to be stable... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's why integration and testing stages are so important +</I> +Because software distribution is crappy ? +That's indeed a good reason ( now, do not be asthonished if we joke on php... ) + +><i> >>> If that's only for configuration files, we can host them on puppet svn +</I>><i> >>> and deploy them with puppet. +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >> if you want to play with puppet for production and having us not touching it with our dirty hands (^^) i'm perfectly ok with +</I>><i> >> that... but i neeed a integration and testing forum with cascaded by git cloning +</I>><i> >> (and i need to sync database of test from production to simulate version migration then cancel and replay as much a i need) +</I>><i> > Could we do it with a master/slave replication without much trouble ? +</I>><i> > ( and possibly, one that would automatically recreate the db once it is +</I>><i> > dropped ) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Or we can do snapshot using lvm, but I think this can be quite fragile. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> Nope... master/slave replication will not fit my needs : i need 2 separate bases. The production i won't play +</I>><i> with it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For testing : once i updated the code to the new version there can be SQL modifications : new tables, alter tables, +</I>><i> insert or update for rows... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This will be triggered from admin board of phpBB... with a master/slave this would be forbidden or would brake +</I>><i> replication +</I> +That's the idea, stop the replication for testing purposes. Hence my note about recreating it once we +drop the slave. + +We start with a clean db, we replicate. +Once we want to test the upgrade, we stop replication, we test. +We drop the db, we resync if needed + +Once we finished the test, we drop the tables, and we restart the synchronisation. + +><i> But we could perfectly use the last (nightly ,) production backup to populate the test base when i need to go +</I>><i> back to "clean production state" +</I> +This requires use to do backup, and so have at least a backup process +But we can also do it. I just think that replication would be less heavy +on IO than dump/reload when needed ( and would be easier to automate ). + +I wonder if we could distribute sql dump of the forum on mirror ( like we could for bugs ). I see +no obvious use for that at the moment, but liberating data can lead to unexpected usages, and would +be a interesting move ( or a at least, a interesting thought experiment, since there is private messages +involved, so this would requires cleaning ) + +-- +Michael Scherer +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000155.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000158.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#157">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#157">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#157">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#157">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000158.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000158.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9169e9d40 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000158.html @@ -0,0 +1,161 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20%20%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C4D31C15F.70104%40vilarem.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000157.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000160.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs</H1> + <B>Maât</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20%20%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C4D31C15F.70104%40vilarem.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs">maat-ml at vilarem.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jan 15 16:46:39 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000157.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000160.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#158">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#158">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#158">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#158">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 15/01/2011 16:11, Michael scherer a écrit : +><i> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:46:38AM +0100, Maât wrote: +</I>>><i> Le 13/01/2011 13:29, Michael Scherer a écrit : +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> ----8<---- +</I>>>><i> In any case, postgresql to mysql conversion doesn't look doable. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> It could be done using things like TOS +</I>><i> Url ? +</I><A HREF="http://fr.talend.com/products-data-integration/talend-open-studio.php">http://fr.talend.com/products-data-integration/talend-open-studio.php</A> + +>>><i> But we are not ready, see my answer about gitorious. So here is a +</I>>>><i> proposal in 4 steps : +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Now : +</I>>>><i> - we do a git checkout every 5 minutes ( just need the url, and +</I>>>><i> testing ) +</I>>><i> Ouch +</I>><i> Why ouch ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 5 minutes is too often, not often enough ? +</I>><i> ( this is configurable, as this is based on cron ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I would prefer a pull based approach rather than push, because +</I>><i> 1) this is already written +</I>><i> 2) this is more secure +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But it may not be good for deployment. +</I>><i> +</I>ok for pull but human-triggered ! + +in case of a commit pushed by error i don't want production forum follow the move by itself ! + +>>>>><i> Do you need modifications in phpBB sources ? +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> yes... some coming from (more or less) official patches (called "mods") some coming from ash +</I>>>>><i> and i and perhaps other php devs +</I>>>><i> /me close eyes when reading "(more of less) official patches". +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> That's the way phpBB people deals with "mods" : authors (not phpBB Team) publish them on the mods +</I>>><i> dedicated forum, and you are free to use (or not) them without warranty at all some are widely +</I>>><i> used and well known to be stable... +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> That's why integration and testing stages are so important +</I>><i> Because software distribution is crappy ? +</I>><i> That's indeed a good reason ( now, do not be asthonished if we joke on php... ) +</I>cleanlyness of projet is not linked with the language or technology used... it's much more linked to the way people are organized inside the communities :) +>>>>><i> If that's only for configuration files, we can host them on puppet svn +</I>>>>>><i> and deploy them with puppet. +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> if you want to play with puppet for production and having us not touching it with our dirty hands (^^) i'm perfectly ok with +</I>>>>><i> that... but i neeed a integration and testing forum with cascaded by git cloning +</I>>>>><i> (and i need to sync database of test from production to simulate version migration then cancel and replay as much a i need) +</I>>>><i> Could we do it with a master/slave replication without much trouble ? +</I>>>><i> ( and possibly, one that would automatically recreate the db once it is +</I>>>><i> dropped ) +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Or we can do snapshot using lvm, but I think this can be quite fragile. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> Nope... master/slave replication will not fit my needs : i need 2 separate bases. The production i won't play +</I>>><i> with it. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> For testing : once i updated the code to the new version there can be SQL modifications : new tables, alter tables, +</I>>><i> insert or update for rows... +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> This will be triggered from admin board of phpBB... with a master/slave this would be forbidden or would brake +</I>>><i> replication +</I>><i> That's the idea, stop the replication for testing purposes. Hence my note about recreating it once we +</I>><i> drop the slave. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We start with a clean db, we replicate. +</I>><i> Once we want to test the upgrade, we stop replication, we test. +</I>><i> We drop the db, we resync if needed +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Once we finished the test, we drop the tables, and we restart the synchronisation. +</I>><i> +</I>Haaaaaa ! + +that's brilliant ! + +(i'm ashamed to admit that i did not imagine to use db synchronization this way) + +Of course if this is doable i'm ok more twice than one :) + +>><i> But we could perfectly use the last (nightly ,) production backup to populate the test base when i need to go +</I>>><i> back to "clean production state" +</I>><i> This requires use to do backup, and so have at least a backup process +</I>><i> But we can also do it. I just think that replication would be less heavy +</I>><i> on IO than dump/reload when needed ( and would be easier to automate ). +</I>><i> +</I>doing backups would be a good idea imho + +><i> I wonder if we could distribute sql dump of the forum on mirror ( like we could for bugs ). I see +</I>><i> no obvious use for that at the moment, but liberating data can lead to unexpected usages, and would +</I>><i> be a interesting move ( or a at least, a interesting thought experiment, since there is private messages +</I>><i> involved, so this would requires cleaning ) +</I>><i> +</I>that would need cleaning indeed as french law (and imho ethics too wether legally enforced or not) protects personal data + +cheers + +Maât + + + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000157.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000160.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#158">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#158">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#158">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#158">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000159.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000159.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..85611b712 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000159.html @@ -0,0 +1,378 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3CA31E65CCB1B23F49A8B97A3A0947018D01870767%40EXCHANGE2003.ccq.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000156.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000147.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs</H1> + <B>Dubeau, Patrick</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3CA31E65CCB1B23F49A8B97A3A0947018D01870767%40EXCHANGE2003.ccq.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs">Patrick.Dubeau at ccq.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jan 15 19:04:11 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000156.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000147.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#159">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#159">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#159">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#159">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> + +----- Message d'origine ----- +De : Maât [mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">maat-ml at vilarem.net</A>] +Envoyé : Saturday, January 15, 2011 06:41 AM +À : Mageia Web team discussion list <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">mageia-webteam at mageia.org</A>> +Objet : Re: [Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs + +Le 13/01/2011 13:29, Michael Scherer a écrit : +><i> Le mercredi 12 janvier 2011 à 21:27 +0100, Maât a écrit : +</I>>><i> Hi there, +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> As it seems VM creation takes a little bit of time due +</I>>><i> to people being under heavy load at work Anne and misc +</I>>><i> considered the option of creation the Xen VM on one of +</I>>><i> our servers (we could migrate the VM on atalante later) +</I>><i> The exact technology should not matter much, that's also what puppet is +</I>><i> made for. Ie, unless we plan to do a migration at the system image +</I>><i> level, we could simply install the 2nd vm, put puppet, clone the +</I>><i> computer, migrate the db and ip. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ( not that I do not like xen, but I would prefer something else ). +</I>Well I mentionned Xen because Atalante uses it... but if this is not a +problem for puppet then ok for me :) + + +>><i> For that misc asked for Forum needs... +</I>><i> I think I didn't make myself clear. I wanted information to deploy it +</I>><i> like where is the git stored ( a url, not "it is on a server" ), who +</I>><i> will need what access, etc. But the information you gave are also +</I>><i> important ( and bring lots of question as you can see ). +</I>><i> +</I>Atm it's stored on Ennael's dedibox :) + + + +>><i> For the beginning i'll consider that we are going to put everything on the +</I>same machine +>><i> (DB and PHP). This is not rally brilliant to virtualize DB servers but i +</I>guess this will +>><i> not kill the VM in the first monthes as the tables will not be big. +</I>><i> AFAIK, using virtio and proper cache, this should not be much a problem. +</I>ok then + +>><i> So phpBB needs a LAMP Stack : Apache + PHP5 + MysSQL5 (it prefers to have +</I>MySQLi extention) +><i> No specific requirement in term of version, using 2010.1 rpm should be +</I>><i> ok, I assume ? +</I>indeed + +>><i> And we'll need with php the optional : +</I>>><i> -- zlib compression (better having it) +</I>>><i> -- remote ftp support (well... i'm not in favor even if documentation asks +</I>for it) +><i> We could drop outgoing connexion if needed. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ( yes, php make me paranoid in term of security ) +</I>><i> +</I>quite understandable :o) + +>><i> -- XML support (better having it) +</I>>><i> -- Image Magick support (better having it) +</I>><i> php-image-magick. I do think there is a conspiration to make me have a +</I>><i> stroke. Security research by a friend of mine on ImageMagick do not make +</I>><i> feel safe to know we will use it, but if this is required, we have no +</I>><i> choice. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Just to know, what will it be used for ( I assume this will be used to +</I>><i> resize avatar ) ? +</I>yes +>><i> -- GD support (same as Image magick) +</I>><i> Does the forum support suhoshin, or various php hardening measures ? +</I>><i> +</I>Dunno... but we can check that. phpBB forum's got a few threads of errors +mentionning suhosin but i suspect they did not try very hard + +><i> Did you do various testing with a hardened configuration with dangerous +</I>><i> call disabled ( mainly remote url access for a start, but i also think +</I>><i> we can use opendir restriction, etc, etc ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Does it have non regression testing ( so we can enable stuff and see if +</I>><i> anything break ? ) ? +</I>><i> +</I>Testing and integration envs are perfect for that :) + + +>><i> For source management git will be used... so we'll need it too :) +</I>><i> Just git clone ? +</I>><i> I have a puppet module for this, just need tests before I commit. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For git hosting, again, while I am in favor, there is a few questions to +</I>><i> answer and prepare it, see my previous mail about what is needed. +</I>><i> +</I>we need cloning, branch/tag switching and sync with reference repos + +>><i> As forum have often to face bruteforce having Fail2ban would be really +</I>great... +>><i> for every open service like ssh +</I>><i> On ssh level, and for me, that's a vote in favor of "no". We use ssh +</I>><i> keys only for admins, so fail2ban will just cause trouble. +</I>... + +>><i> but also for forums... i'd like to have Fail2ban +</I>>><i> parse a file of phpBB failed login to trigger a IP low level ban during a +</I>>><i> few hours or more... +</I>><i> Well, if you give us the configuration, we can see. +</I>ok + +><i> We can also use the trick that Olivier deployed on d-c to avoid numerous +</I>><i> connexions from the same IP ( in case someone decide to be smart and do +</I>><i> simultaneous attempts to log ). +</I>ok too... i'm curious to see what the trick is :) + +>><i> For forum management we'll need : +</I>><i> ---- 8<---- +</I>><i> or for those who are not CxO-fluent ( private joke ), who is 'we', in +</I>><i> term of organisation ( ie, do we need to create a ldap group, etc ) ? +</I>><i> +</I>We = those who maintain forum at forum admin level (ash and i atm) + +For integration and testing we'll prehaps need a little bit more + +For production you can keep that for sysadmins i guess (till now i got to be +sysadmin & forum admin so this will need a little bit of tuning to adapt +myself) + +>><i> -- access to sources (read/write) +</I>><i> I rather keep this automated from git, for security reasons and to avoid +</I>><i> human errors. I would even add a cron job that does a git diff or +</I>><i> something similar, to detect if someone uploaded a file manually, or +</I>><i> touched to it using apache. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In fact, as a security measure, I think the user that will write the +</I>><i> source should put it read only for apache. Ie, use a separate system +</I>><i> user for that. +</I>yup that's wise + +but some dirs (avatars upload dir, file upload dir, emoticon uplad dir, cache +dir) will need to be writable for apache... + +>><i> -- access to data zones (avatars and uploaded things) (read/write) +</I>><i> You mean apache will need it, no ? +</I>indeed... apache will need it in the fist place, but sometimes there can be +need to delete an avatar, resize it, replace it with something not offensive, +make it read only to prevent user re-changing again and again... + +><i> Direct access seems to me a pretty rare event, we can grant access if +</I>><i> there is a really lots of request, ie if you annoy admin enough to make +</I>><i> them give it rather than doing themselves. +</I>Well you're right we can tune organisation later... so let's say that +sysadmin will take care of low level tasks on production forum... + +>><i> -- access to accesslogs and errorlogs (read) +</I>><i> then this should be merged with the webmasters concept that romain +</I>><i> explained. For now, we didn't setup anything ( we didn't even split log +</I>><i> file on alamut, even if this should be trivial ). +</I>><i> +</I>indeed forum admins have obviously tasks that are close to this "webmaster" +concept + +>><i> -- ability to change php log levels +</I>><i> This can be done by php, I think. +</I>><i> +</I>if php global config allows it. + +>><i> -- access to php logs (read) +</I>><i> same as accesslogs +</I>yup + +>><i> -- console access to database(s) (i'd prefer to avoid completely +</I>phpMyadmin on the forum server) +><i> I would prefer avoid giving console access until there is a real need. I +</I>would favor then a remote +><i> mysql access, and forcing ssl, maybe even limited by fixed ip address if +</I>you wish to avoid bruteforce. +><i> +</I>><i> ( I will not go to the point of proposing to use a vpn too, but +</I>><i> almost ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe we could think of some kind of ssh bastion for such access ( or +</I>><i> maybe that's overkill too ). +</I>><i> +</I>well for forum administration i daily use sql CLI because that's loads more +effective than using phpBB SQL interface or uglier things like phpMyadmin :-/ + +>><i> For performance questions : i guess forum opening will trigger a rather +</I>vast +>><i> amount of people coming (at least to register their nicks)... i'd be happy +</I>to +>><i> avoid the server being loaded to death. +</I>><i> Registration will be done on catdap from what I think we agreed on, no ? +</I>><i> ( correct me if I am wrong ). +</I>you are right but once registered they'll go to the forum (in particular if +they came to registration form through a link on the forum) + +><i> So we need to work on that part ( starting more processes, and so +</I>><i> letting us tune that with puppet ( this is hardcoded now, AFAIK ). So +</I>><i> depending on where we host the forum, we can surely avoid this effect. +</I>:<i>-/ +</I> +>><i> So i'm targetting at least one thousand simultaneous users being active on +</I>the +>><i> forum... that will do for apache tuning. +</I>><i> Ok so let's say 120 simultaneous process for apache, which also mean we +</I>><i> need to keep apache process as lean as possible ( ie, no unused module +</I>><i> loaded ). I assume that there is no guarantee on being thread safe from +</I>><i> php and associated library, so we will use mpm-prefork. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Since the server is isolated and serve only for php hosting, I guess +</I>><i> using fast-cgi will not bring much to the equation, when compared to +</I>><i> mod_php. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Let's also assume 30 processes for forum registration on catdap ( if I +</I>><i> am not wrong on that part, of course ) ? We could surely mitigate the +</I>><i> potential overload by not announcing this on every possible channel at +</I>><i> the same time ( ie, first a mail, then a blog post, then +</I>><i> identica/twitter ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Should we also maybe need to tune ldap ? +</I>well nginx could be an option as Thierry said... dunno if ldap will be loaded +though + + +>><i> For database that will mean 800 to 1200 requests per seconds... +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> We'll have 2 - 3 months to see the tables grow and tune the indexes and +</I>the memory accordingly. +><i> That mean that we will have to deploy some monitoring, and we didn't +</I>><i> decided anything ( buchan proposed hobbit, I proposed munin, purely by +</I>><i> familiarity ). +</I>><i> +</I>That can be done a little bit later :) + +><i> What metrics would you need so we can work on them in priority ( once we +</I>><i> start to set up something ) ? +</I>><i> +</I>the ram used by database and by the web server, the number of threads, the +cpu load, and perhaps some data from the database server (cache fill level, +number of locked requests, time taken by long requests - over 1 sec -)... + +>><i> But i think our needs will stabilize around 4-6 GO for RAM if the forum +</I>gets really +>><i> used (we'll have to tune mysql to keep many requests in cache) +</I>apache+mysql all +>><i> included... if we split later apache and mysql on separate machines the +</I>needs on +>><i> each machine will be obviously lower. +</I>><i> No cache ( squid, varnish ) ? +</I>><i> No php level cache too ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ( not that it may be requested now ) +</I>we can see that later indeed :) + +>><i> For app disk space code is under 50 megs... and with hundred of avatars +</I>uploader +>><i> we will not grow above 1GO +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> For database disk space even after years of activity we'll remain under +</I>5GO +><i> Ok so let's allocate a 10 g partition for the db + ssthat on lvm. +</I>><i> We should take in account logs, and logs backup ( french law requires 1 +</I>><i> year of logs ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> How many logs are to be expected per day ? +</I>><i> The only busy webserver I can think of is d-c, but Nanar and I just +</I>><i> discovered that the configuration is not good. +</I>><i> So now, that's 5g of log, uncompressed, per month. +</I>><i> +</I>it will depend on the success of mageia but that can be rather high + + +>><i> We'll need to set up some tables with heavy read and write accesses with +</I>InnoDB (not all) : +>><i> that would be great to have one file per table innodb option enabled +</I>><i> Ok, I guess it should be safe to enable it for all mysql db I guess. +</I>yes + +>><i> Nota : i'd like to use https (at least for admin accesses)... so that will +</I>mean to enable +>><i> ssl and open 443 port also +</I>><i> We did not plan to let people use their password under cleartext at all. +</I>><i> Centralized auth have been setup ( and should be used for forum too ), +</I>><i> so people will reuse their password, the same used at others part of the +</I>><i> infrastructure, and that mean svn, or bugzilla, etc. Since people with +</I>><i> access will use it, no cleartext at all when the password is sent ( or +</I>><i> over my dead body, after fighting my ghost ). +</I>so https for all ? ok for me but that will be a little bit heavier for cpu + +><i> I guess we can make exception for the cookie, as long as it is not +</I>><i> shared ( ie, we will have to rethink the scheme if we deploy SSO ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That also mean that people will complain because of firefox if we do not +</I>><i> buy a certificate. +</I>><i> +</I>:<i>-( +</I> +>><i> That's all for system level... i think directory structures (Which +</I>concerns apache web root config) can be dealt with later... +>><i> +</I>>><i> Tell me if you have got everything you need for VM creation... +</I>><i> What I needed was more information for forum deployment, not vm +</I>><i> requirements, I guess I didn't express myself clearly. The requirement +</I>><i> for the vm in term of memory/disk have been roughly drafted before. What +</I>><i> I would prefer is a deployment document. +</I>><i> +</I>ash and i are writing one atm + +your mail changes some things... so let's adapt it :) + +----8<---- + +(pfeeew... sorry for the length guy) + +Maât + + + + +_______________________________________________ +Mageia-webteam mailing list +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">Mageia-webteam at mageia.org</A> +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam</A> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000156.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000147.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#159">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#159">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#159">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#159">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000160.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000160.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3090887db --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000160.html @@ -0,0 +1,116 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20%20%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C1295268131.24697.7.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000158.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000150.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20%20%20Forum%20VM%20needs&In-Reply-To=%3C1295268131.24697.7.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 17 13:42:10 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000158.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000150.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#160">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#160">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#160">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#160">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le samedi 15 janvier 2011 à 16:46 +0100, Maât a écrit : +><i> Le 15/01/2011 16:11, Michael scherer a écrit : +</I>><i> > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:46:38AM +0100, Maât wrote: +</I>><i> >> Le 13/01/2011 13:29, Michael Scherer a écrit : +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> ----8<---- +</I>><i> >>> In any case, postgresql to mysql conversion doesn't look doable. +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >> It could be done using things like TOS +</I>><i> > Url ? +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://fr.talend.com/products-data-integration/talend-open-studio.php">http://fr.talend.com/products-data-integration/talend-open-studio.php</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> >>> But we are not ready, see my answer about gitorious. So here is a +</I>><i> >>> proposal in 4 steps : +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> Now : +</I>><i> >>> - we do a git checkout every 5 minutes ( just need the url, and +</I>><i> >>> testing ) +</I>><i> >> Ouch +</I>><i> > Why ouch ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > 5 minutes is too often, not often enough ? +</I>><i> > ( this is configurable, as this is based on cron ) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I would prefer a pull based approach rather than push, because +</I>><i> > 1) this is already written +</I>><i> > 2) this is more secure +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > But it may not be good for deployment. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> ok for pull but human-triggered ! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> in case of a commit pushed by error i don't want production forum follow the move by itself ! +</I> +We could had a post receive hook that check that any commit comes from +testing first. Ie, no way to commit to production without pushing to +testing first. + +I would even check that the commit was in testing for at least X days or +X hours. But this may cause trouble for security fix. On the other hand, +you don't want to rush a security fix... + +><i> >> But we could perfectly use the last (nightly ,) production backup to populate the test base when i need to go +</I>><i> >> back to "clean production state" +</I>><i> > This requires use to do backup, and so have at least a backup process +</I>><i> > But we can also do it. I just think that replication would be less heavy +</I>><i> > on IO than dump/reload when needed ( and would be easier to automate ). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> doing backups would be a good idea imho +</I> +Yeah, obviously yes. But we either do them on the same server ( and +that's kinda useless I fear ), or we do this cross servers ( and that's +kinda complex ). + +We could for a start dump pgsql on valstar, and sync svn on alamut. + +Or use rabbit, there is 2 To, we could spare some for backups ? + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000158.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000150.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#160">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#160">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#160">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#160">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000161.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000161.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..36d4b7c5e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000161.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 3 meeting + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%202011/week%203%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimCnuNJ8BfL_4%3Dp6o2DhTuZ1T8BzTPghT7SAZZr%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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define +generic tasks for a more-distributed edition/translation team + - requires: basic PHP knowledge, basic design/typography skills, +serious mastering at HTML/CSS + * team peers review & mentoring process (is the list ok, someone to +add/start to mentor) + +Cheers! + +Romain +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000151.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000166.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 3 meeting +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#161">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#161">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#161">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#161">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000162.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000162.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f391c5ef3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000162.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Calendars - maint db + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Calendars%20-%20maint%20db&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikvJ6RJix9Pm4y0%2B4LyA4q4k7epM4keiM6_YCY9%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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If someone else wants to have a look at +it? + +Oliver +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000165.html">[Mageia-webteam] Calendars - maint db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000164.html">[Mageia-webteam] Meeting today +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#163">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#163">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#163">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#163">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000164.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000164.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..84fe34642 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000164.html @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Meeting today + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Meeting%20today&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTiko4sCoPzjaSNkiZWgUvUuRwBa-homK9tC8QWX6%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000163.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000167.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Meeting today</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Meeting%20today&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTiko4sCoPzjaSNkiZWgUvUuRwBa-homK9tC8QWX6%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Meeting today">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jan 19 14:57:06 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000163.html">[Mageia-webteam] Meeting today +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000167.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#164">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#164">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#164">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#164">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 13:39, Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> The state of my assignments: +</I>><i> - wiki: ready, just write some things up and talk with sysadmin team +</I>><i> about it +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - calendar: didn't get to it. If someone else wants to have a look at +</I>><i> it? +</I> +Thanks for the notice Oliver, good luck with your work! + +Romain +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000163.html">[Mageia-webteam] Meeting today +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000167.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#164">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#164">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#164">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#164">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000165.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000165.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f79dfe8d9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000165.html @@ -0,0 +1,62 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Calendars - maint db + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Calendars%20-%20maint%20db&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikPZN5jPAw%2BD0NukRT72NBg3Sx-Tuav__czy3hB%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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Like +</I>><i> 1 hour of fun debbuging to found out the exact issue. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - I found out after upgrading qemu and libvirtd ( so again 1 hour of fun +</I>><i> to rebuild on mdv cluster without success ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - kernel-server do not work in qemu, for some reason. Again, 1 hour of +</I>><i> fun to found out. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Current status : server is booting. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Soon to be puppetified and installed. ( and kinda documented too ) +</I>><i> +</I>\o/ + +Good news ! + +Thanks a lot Misc... + + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000164.html">[Mageia-webteam] Meeting today +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000168.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#167">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#167">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#167">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#167">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000168.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000168.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..daec2ed15 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000168.html @@ -0,0 +1,118 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20New%20test%20tree%20in%20ldap&In-Reply-To=%3C4D3D4952.3060905%40vilarem.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000167.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000169.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap</H1> + <B>Maât</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20New%20test%20tree%20in%20ldap&In-Reply-To=%3C4D3D4952.3060905%40vilarem.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap">maat-ml at vilarem.net + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 24 10:41:38 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000167.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000169.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#168">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#168">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#168">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#168">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 24/01/2011 10:18, Michael Scherer a écrit : +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As asked by forum team, I have created a ldap subtree for testing the +</I>><i> phpbb ldap integration, since they want to test on a server that is not +</I>><i> managed by us, and so this could cause security issues ie, if a remote +</I>><i> server is compromised for various reasons ( like not being treated as +</I>><i> production, which is a reasonable assumption for a test server ) and +</I>><i> someone start to gather username, email, and so on. +</I>great ! Thank you Misc :) + +><i> The tree is dc=test_ldap, there is just the top level entry and there is +</I>><i> no acl. ( maybe I should have called it test_ldap_forum ) +</I>><i> +</I>ok + +><i> I am ok to give the manager password of this tree for testing and +</I>><i> letting people create what they want ( that's just a test one, after +</I>><i> all ), but maybe we can organize ourself better. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maat, besides this, what do you need ? +</I>I need a "system account" (used by phpbb to log itself on the ldap) with it's password + +The one given previously by Buchan was : + +cn=phpbb,ou=System Accounts,dc=mageia,dc=org + +Then i need a few "users" and "admin" accounts on ldap test : + +-- forumadmin +-- maat +-- ashledombos +-- test_user +-- test_moderator + +That's all for ldap <-> forum connection + +Then we'll need to decide where our git reference repository will be hosted + +Atm on ennael's dedibox we have a repos cloned from phpBB's github official repos which i started while phpBB stable version was 3.0.7PL1. + +Now phpBB stable version is 3.0.8... as our customization is not heavy i want to take the opportunity (that we'll never have again) to fresh-start from upstream and re-apply our changes (theme, seo, umil...) so i just need a fresh git repos cloned from <A HREF="https://github.com/phpbb/phpbb3.git">https://github.com/phpbb/phpbb3.git</A> with at least write access for ashledombos and i + +That's all i think... + +Cheers, +Maât + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000167.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000169.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#168">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#168">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#168">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#168">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000169.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000169.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a514b068e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000169.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20New%20test%20tree%20in%20ldap&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DJnGFpG_ZiEmdAT2VTJO1arzueHgxTs8hTESZT%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000168.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000174.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap</H1> + <B>Kosmas Chatzimichalis</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20New%20test%20tree%20in%20ldap&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DJnGFpG_ZiEmdAT2VTJO1arzueHgxTs8hTESZT%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap">Kosmas at mach7x.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 24 12:20:58 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000168.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000174.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#169">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#169">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#169">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#169">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 24 January 2011 09:41, Maât <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">maat-ml at vilarem.net</A>> wrote: + +><i> Le 24/01/2011 10:18, Michael Scherer a écrit : +</I>><i> > Hi, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > As asked by forum team, I have created a ldap subtree for testing the +</I>><i> > phpbb ldap integration, since they want to test on a server that is not +</I>><i> > managed by us, and so this could cause security issues ie, if a remote +</I>><i> > server is compromised for various reasons ( like not being treated as +</I>><i> > production, which is a reasonable assumption for a test server ) and +</I>><i> > someone start to gather username, email, and so on. +</I>><i> great ! Thank you Misc :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > The tree is dc=test_ldap, there is just the top level entry and there is +</I>><i> > no acl. ( maybe I should have called it test_ldap_forum ) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I> +Wouldn't a similar integration needed for the maintainer's db? +Would we need a different user name for the application, or we would have a +group that exists there and has admin permissions in the app? + +I was going to ask about the integration options and how we are actually +need to get the data, so that was good timing :-) + +Should I be using the details mentioned in previous emails, for connecting +to the server and testing? + +Thanks +Kosmas +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-webteam/attachments/20110124/7f6238a1/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000168.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000174.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#169">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#169">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#169">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#169">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000170.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000170.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ff256bd21 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000170.html @@ -0,0 +1,95 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Viewvc installation + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Viewvc%20installation&In-Reply-To=%3C1295876769.29541.9.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000178.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000172.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Viewvc installation</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Viewvc%20installation&In-Reply-To=%3C1295876769.29541.9.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Viewvc installation">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 24 14:46:09 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000178.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-webteam] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#170">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#170">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#170">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#170">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi, + +since people have asked for it since a long time, and since no much +people commented on viewvc vs websvn +( <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-sysadm/2011-January/002145.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-sysadm/2011-January/002145.html</A> ), and so based on the fact that websvn run svn to get information ( thus would potentially overload the server when google bot team with yahoo to explore the server and our patches ), I have setup viewvc. + +I can also setup websvn if someone really need, but a quick check showed +that both tools are quite similar in term of features, the only +difference being the usage of svn commandline. + +There is 2 questions left ( with a default answer with a timeout of 2 +days ) : +- what should be the name ( svn.mageia.org cannot be used, as it point +to a different server, a redirect can be setup to another url +however ) ? +( default answer : viewvc.mageia.org ) + +- do people from the web team want to customize it ( ie, if someone +devote time for that, i can add it to web like the others web +application ) ? +( default answer : I will report this to when it will be needed ) + +For the moment, it is not in the dns, but should soon be so people can +take a look at it. + +I would just ask to not take the url as granted, in case someone find a +better name ( I am not completely satisfied by viewvc.mageia.org, but it +the easiest to type that I could find, and was more than enough for the +test I add to do ). + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000178.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-webteam] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#170">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#170">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#170">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#170">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000171.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000171.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d418c8c23 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000171.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Current bugzilla status + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Current%20bugzilla%20status&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikcP7hhH5frXPDMbm4SJF1Tp-bDQYSwcTe5V3Ah%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000189.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000176.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Current bugzilla status</H1> + <B>Dexter Morgan</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Current%20bugzilla%20status&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikcP7hhH5frXPDMbm4SJF1Tp-bDQYSwcTe5V3Ah%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Current bugzilla status">dmorganec at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 24 16:09:44 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000189.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000176.html">[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#171">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#171">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#171">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#171">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hello to all, + +i wanted to mail you before but missed some time. + +Regarding the bugzilla, the install have been done, +categories/componments/... have been added. + +I added the same page as mdv to report bugs ( +<A HREF="http://bugs.mageia.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided&classification=__all">http://bugs.mageia.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided&classification=__all</A> +) . + +What's left is the page that show the bugs when done because for now +we use the std page but which doesn't show the rpm field. + +does someone have time to do it ? +If yes please send me the diff so i can test on my wm. + + +thanks in advance +D.Morgan +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000189.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000176.html">[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#171">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#171">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#171">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#171">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000172.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000172.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a4bde4f4f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000172.html @@ -0,0 +1,109 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Viewvc installation + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Viewvc%20installation&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D%3DdioqyJkWm5ymXaYTvfak8DOLOKaLiB9wGk6Z%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000170.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000181.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Viewvc installation</H1> + <B>Benoit Audouard</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Viewvc%20installation&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D%3DdioqyJkWm5ymXaYTvfak8DOLOKaLiB9wGk6Z%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Viewvc installation">baud123 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 24 17:17:30 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000170.html">[Mageia-webteam] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000181.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#172">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#172">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#172">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#172">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Re, + +2011/1/24 Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> + +><i> people commented on viewvc vs websvn +</I>><i> ( <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-sysadm/2011-January/002145.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-sysadm/2011-January/002145.html</A>), and so based on the fact that websvn run svn to get information ( thus +</I>><i> would potentially overload the server when google bot team with yahoo to +</I>><i> explore the server and our patches ), I have setup viewvc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I can also setup websvn if someone really need, but a quick check showed +</I>><i> that both tools are quite similar in term of features, the only +</I>><i> difference being the usage of svn commandline. +</I>><i> +</I> +Just as an example, at tuxfamily we have both +- <A HREF="http://websvn.tuxfamily.org">http://websvn.tuxfamily.org</A> with webSVN +- and <A HREF="http://svn.tuxfamily.org">http://svn.tuxfamily.org</A> with viewvc (which works with cvs too iirc) + +one functionality in viewvc may be disabled : "Download tarball" (it's +sometimes epic when google or any search-crawler begins to work on these +links...). The equivalent in websvn exists and could be disabled too. + +There is 2 questions left ( with a default answer with a timeout of 2 +><i> days ) : +</I>><i> - what should be the name ( svn.mageia.org cannot be used, as it point +</I>><i> to a different server, a redirect can be setup to another url +</I>><i> however ) ? +</I>><i> ( default answer : viewvc.mageia.org ) +</I> + +websvn.mageia.org may be an alternative not depending on the tool used (or +webvcs to be even more general, though git or hg have their own source code +webviewer, so imho it's not that much relevant to find a generic name... as +we would end with webgit / webhg depending on future "wishes"). In the end, +there may even be a generic forge.mageia.org listing all source code +repositories and related projects that will emerge one day or the other :-) + +I did not find the 2nd question to be answered^Wcommented ? (perhaps it was +the "redirect thing", that webteam or sysadm can answer directly ?). + +tl;dr ;-) well <A HREF="http://websvn.mageia.org">http://websvn.mageia.org</A> or <A HREF="http://viewvc.mageia.org">http://viewvc.mageia.org</A> are ok +for me. + +@++ +Ben'. aka baud123 +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-webteam/attachments/20110124/48e8778a/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000170.html">[Mageia-webteam] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000181.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#172">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#172">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#172">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#172">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000173.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000173.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..57c15a97f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000173.html @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20New%20test%20tree%20in%20ldap&In-Reply-To=%3C1295889032.31817.14.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000177.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000178.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20New%20test%20tree%20in%20ldap&In-Reply-To=%3C1295889032.31817.14.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 24 18:10:32 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000177.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000178.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#173">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#173">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#173">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#173">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le lundi 24 janvier 2011 à 10:41 +0100, Maât a écrit : + +><i> Then we'll need to decide where our git reference repository will be hosted +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Atm on ennael's dedibox we have a repos cloned from phpBB's github official +</I>><i> repos which i started while phpBB stable version was 3.0.7PL1. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Now phpBB stable version is 3.0.8... as our customization is not heavy i want +</I>><i> to take the opportunity (that we'll never have again) to fresh-start from upstream +</I>><i> and re-apply our changes (theme, seo, umil...) so i just need a fresh git repos +</I>><i> cloned from <A HREF="https://github.com/phpbb/phpbb3.git">https://github.com/phpbb/phpbb3.git</A> with at least write access for +</I>><i> ashledombos and i +</I> +I have created ( or at least pushed on valstar after tested it on a vm ) +a git repository. I will add soon the various bits ( like a more +suitable dns host, check that anonymous checkout is ok ), and tell you +more definitive connexion information. ( And look on syntax check and +commit mail ). + +There is no plan to install a web interface soon ( as the default one is +quite crapp^w suboptimal from my memories, gitorious and co are much +more complex, and cgit requires git code to be compiled and is not +packaged ). + +The write access is restricted to people in mga-forum-developers group +that I just created and for the moment, that's you and ashledombos. + +So far, the git is still experimental and quite open ( ie, I didn't +restrict tags or anything, except non-fastforward rebase ). + +And sorry for others ( especially for kosmas ), I would prefer to first +see how it goes with 1 project before hosting more than one, so people +will have to wait until that. + +I will take a look at filling ldap later tonight, and send mail with a +password. +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000177.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000178.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#173">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#173">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#173">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#173">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000174.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000174.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..358658638 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000174.html @@ -0,0 +1,103 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20New%20test%20tree%20in%20ldap&In-Reply-To=%3C1295889254.31817.18.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000169.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000175.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20New%20test%20tree%20in%20ldap&In-Reply-To=%3C1295889254.31817.18.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 24 18:14:14 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000169.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000175.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#174">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#174">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#174">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#174">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le lundi 24 janvier 2011 à 11:20 +0000, Kosmas Chatzimichalis a écrit : +><i> On 24 January 2011 09:41, Maât <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">maat-ml at vilarem.net</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Le 24/01/2011 10:18, Michael Scherer a écrit : +</I>><i> > > Hi, +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > As asked by forum team, I have created a ldap subtree for testing the +</I>><i> > > phpbb ldap integration, since they want to test on a server that is not +</I>><i> > > managed by us, and so this could cause security issues ie, if a remote +</I>><i> > > server is compromised for various reasons ( like not being treated as +</I>><i> > > production, which is a reasonable assumption for a test server ) and +</I>><i> > > someone start to gather username, email, and so on. +</I>><i> > great ! Thank you Misc :) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > > The tree is dc=test_ldap, there is just the top level entry and there is +</I>><i> > > no acl. ( maybe I should have called it test_ldap_forum ) +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Wouldn't a similar integration needed for the maintainer's db? +</I> +Yes. + +><i> Would we need a different user name for the application, or we would have a +</I>><i> group that exists there and has admin permissions in the app? +</I> +The login do not have write access to the ldap, it just here to connect +to ldap,do the login ( like misc ) to ldap login mapping ( like +uid=misc,ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org ), and then test if the password is +correct by binding to ldap using ldap login and the password. + +Now, if you need to store something to ldap, we can arrange something, +but that would requires to change ACLs ( and I think that it is better +to not use ldap to store this, for various reason like "ldap is more +complex to manage than sql" ) + +><i> I was going to ask about the integration options and how we are actually +</I>><i> need to get the data, so that was good timing :-) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Should I be using the details mentioned in previous emails, for connecting +</I>><i> to the server and testing? +</I> +I will mail you a account/password once I have created it on the ldap. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000169.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000175.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#174">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#174">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#174">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#174">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000175.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000175.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..832bc6059 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000175.html @@ -0,0 +1,124 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20New%20test%20tree%20in%20ldap&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimxX8T2ZCKbSpcAoVLpK97z7ZwPh4jDQjNWtJxE%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000174.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000177.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap</H1> + <B>Kosmas Chatzimichalis</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20New%20test%20tree%20in%20ldap&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimxX8T2ZCKbSpcAoVLpK97z7ZwPh4jDQjNWtJxE%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap">Kosmas at mach7x.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 24 18:54:01 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000174.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000177.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#175">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#175">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#175">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#175">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i>And sorry for others ( especially for kosmas ), I would prefer to first +</I>><i>see how it goes with 1 project before hosting more than one, so people +</I>><i>will have to wait until that. +</I> +That's not a problem :-) +It can wait for a later date, as at the moment I'm fine using gitorious! + + +On 24 January 2011 17:14, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: + +><i> Le lundi 24 janvier 2011 à 11:20 +0000, Kosmas Chatzimichalis a écrit : +</I>><i> > On 24 January 2011 09:41, Maât <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">maat-ml at vilarem.net</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > > Le 24/01/2011 10:18, Michael Scherer a écrit : +</I>><i> > > > Hi, +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Wouldn't a similar integration needed for the maintainer's db? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes. +</I>><i> +</I> +Ok. That's great, thanks. + + +><i> +</I>><i> > Would we need a different user name for the application, or we would have +</I>><i> a +</I>><i> > group that exists there and has admin permissions in the app? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The login do not have write access to the ldap, it just here to connect +</I>><i> to ldap,do the login ( like misc ) to ldap login mapping ( like +</I>><i> uid=misc,ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org ), and then test if the password is +</I>><i> correct by binding to ldap using ldap login and the password. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Now, if you need to store something to ldap, we can arrange something, +</I>><i> but that would requires to change ACLs ( and I think that it is better +</I>><i> to not use ldap to store this, for various reason like "ldap is more +</I>><i> complex to manage than sql" ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I was thinking along the lines, about permissions of who can edit/create +</I>entries in the maintainers db? +So, if a user (maintainer with admin permissions?) has the necessary entry +in the ldap, then they should be able to change things in the maintainers +db. +I don't think there will be a need to have write permissions to ldap, unless +we want to create maintainers in maint db app, and write that to the ldap. +I will send another email with a few questions about maint db later on. + + + +><i> > I was going to ask about the integration options and how we are actually +</I>><i> > need to get the data, so that was good timing :-) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Should I be using the details mentioned in previous emails, for +</I>><i> connecting +</I>><i> > to the server and testing? +</I>><i> I will mail you a account/password once I have created it on the ldap +</I>><i> +</I> +OK. That's great thanks Michael. +Again I was thinking about a maintainer, that I should be doing a lookup in +ldap, but I could be testing that with my account I suppose. + +Kosmas +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-webteam/attachments/20110124/a8ed26f6/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000174.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000177.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#175">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#175">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#175">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#175">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000176.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000176.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f55e7f9b8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000176.html @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Maintainers%20db%20app%20questions&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DpjMY3NvdgXd7ZBzwkG8nOEjGF-VkX1-t7Ub4H%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000171.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000179.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions</H1> + <B>Kosmas Chatzimichalis</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Maintainers%20db%20app%20questions&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DpjMY3NvdgXd7ZBzwkG8nOEjGF-VkX1-t7Ub4H%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions">Kosmas at mach7x.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 24 19:07:00 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000171.html">[Mageia-webteam] Current bugzilla status +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000179.html">[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#176">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#176">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#176">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#176">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>A few questions about the maintainers db application, that are more detailed +than the initial spec. + + + - Do we need first name, surname for maintainers or we would only be + using email? + - If we do store first name, surname are they compulsory, or can be + omitted? + - Where do we take the information from? Is there a database at the + moment, that we can take maintainers, packages information? + - If information is taken initially from another database, where is the + new information created? Or in other words, do we create new media, + maintainer, package in the app or is that created somewhere else? + - How do we integrate with ldap? Would that be used to lookup for + administration permissions for maintainers? Or would we need different users + as admins that are not necessarily maintainers. + - Would the first maintainer be the admin for a particular package? + - Can the admin of a package be changed later on? + +P.S. The link for the staging/test application is here for anyone that +missed it first time (I'm adding it to the wiki as well): +<A HREF="http://maintdb.mageia.org.uk/">http://maintdb.mageia.org.uk/</A> +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-webteam/attachments/20110124/394bcd40/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000171.html">[Mageia-webteam] Current bugzilla status +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000179.html">[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#176">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#176">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#176">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#176">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000177.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000177.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5065851a1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000177.html @@ -0,0 +1,115 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20New%20test%20tree%20in%20ldap&In-Reply-To=%3C1295893524.31817.45.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000175.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000173.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20New%20test%20tree%20in%20ldap&In-Reply-To=%3C1295893524.31817.45.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 24 19:25:24 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000175.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000173.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#177">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#177">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#177">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#177">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le lundi 24 janvier 2011 à 17:54 +0000, Kosmas Chatzimichalis a écrit : +><i> > +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > > Would we need a different user name for the application, or we would have +</I>><i> > a +</I>><i> > > group that exists there and has admin permissions in the app? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > The login do not have write access to the ldap, it just here to connect +</I>><i> > to ldap,do the login ( like misc ) to ldap login mapping ( like +</I>><i> > uid=misc,ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org ), and then test if the password is +</I>><i> > correct by binding to ldap using ldap login and the password. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Now, if you need to store something to ldap, we can arrange something, +</I>><i> > but that would requires to change ACLs ( and I think that it is better +</I>><i> > to not use ldap to store this, for various reason like "ldap is more +</I>><i> > complex to manage than sql" ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I was thinking along the lines, about permissions of who can edit/create +</I>><i> entries in the maintainers db? +</I>><i> So, if a user (maintainer with admin permissions?) has the necessary entry +</I>><i> in the ldap, then they should be able to change things in the maintainers +</I>><i> db. +</I> +I think that simply checking if someone is in some ldap group would be +sufficient. ( and more in conformance with the way the rest of +infrastructure is managed ). I would even add for more than 1 group so +we can have sysadmin and another group of packagers, if delegation is +needed. + +There is various way to handle this, and I think you should ask to +packagers about what they would want, especially with regard to multiple +maintainers per packages ( not for now, of course as the goal was to +have something ready fast, but such improvements were quite asked +afaik ). Ie, who can accept another packagers or not ? + +We do not have any upload restrictions yet, but I guess that sooner or +later, some parts will be restricted, and it would be better to have +them maintainers based rather than duplicating the username in the +buildsystem configuration. + + +><i> I don't think there will be a need to have write permissions to ldap, unless +</I>><i> we want to create maintainers in maint db app, and write that to the ldap. +</I>><i> I will send another email with a few questions about maint db later on. +</I> +Yup, the maintainer creation should be done on ldap first, as people +need a account to maintain anything. + +><i> OK. That's great thanks Michael. +</I>><i> Again I was thinking about a maintainer, that I should be doing a lookup in +</I>><i> ldap, but I could be testing that with my account I suppose. +</I> +I am not sure that would work :/ + +The ldap is quite restricted to protect privacy of users, and only +service accounts should be able to get such informations. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000175.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000173.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#177">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#177">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#177">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#177">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000178.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000178.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3d71b9330 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000178.html @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20%20%20New%20test%20tree%20in%20ldap&In-Reply-To=%3C4D3DC42E.9030305%40vilarem.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000173.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000170.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap</H1> + <B>Maât</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20%20%20New%20test%20tree%20in%20ldap&In-Reply-To=%3C4D3DC42E.9030305%40vilarem.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap">maat-ml at vilarem.net + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 24 19:25:50 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000173.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000170.html">[Mageia-webteam] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#178">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#178">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#178">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#178">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 24/01/2011 18:10, Michael Scherer a écrit : +><i> Le lundi 24 janvier 2011 à 10:41 +0100, Maât a écrit : +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Then we'll need to decide where our git reference repository will be hosted +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Atm on ennael's dedibox we have a repos cloned from phpBB's github official +</I>>><i> repos which i started while phpBB stable version was 3.0.7PL1. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Now phpBB stable version is 3.0.8... as our customization is not heavy i want +</I>>><i> to take the opportunity (that we'll never have again) to fresh-start from upstream +</I>>><i> and re-apply our changes (theme, seo, umil...) so i just need a fresh git repos +</I>>><i> cloned from <A HREF="https://github.com/phpbb/phpbb3.git">https://github.com/phpbb/phpbb3.git</A> with at least write access for +</I>>><i> ashledombos and i +</I>><i> I have created ( or at least pushed on valstar after tested it on a vm ) +</I>><i> a git repository. I will add soon the various bits ( like a more +</I>><i> suitable dns host, check that anonymous checkout is ok ), and tell you +</I>><i> more definitive connexion information. ( And look on syntax check and +</I>><i> commit mail ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There is no plan to install a web interface soon ( as the default one is +</I>><i> quite crapp^w suboptimal from my memories, gitorious and co are much +</I>><i> more complex, and cgit requires git code to be compiled and is not +</I>><i> packaged ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The write access is restricted to people in mga-forum-developers group +</I>><i> that I just created and for the moment, that's you and ashledombos. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So far, the git is still experimental and quite open ( ie, I didn't +</I>><i> restrict tags or anything, except non-fastforward rebase ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And sorry for others ( especially for kosmas ), I would prefer to first +</I>><i> see how it goes with 1 project before hosting more than one, so people +</I>><i> will have to wait until that. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I will take a look at filling ldap later tonight, and send mail with a +</I>><i> password. +</I> +Ok Michael... thanks a lot :) + +I'll check tomorrow... + +Maât + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000173.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000170.html">[Mageia-webteam] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#178">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#178">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#178">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#178">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000179.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000179.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6a9957d36 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000179.html @@ -0,0 +1,106 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Maintainers%20db%20app%20questions&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikw39TKDKtvksDNH%2BKQRg5c7RzX-jjPVOxQ64AM%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000176.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000180.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Maintainers%20db%20app%20questions&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikw39TKDKtvksDNH%2BKQRg5c7RzX-jjPVOxQ64AM%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 24 19:35:12 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000176.html">[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000180.html">[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#179">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#179">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#179">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#179">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi Kosmas, + +On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 19:07, Kosmas Chatzimichalis <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">Kosmas at mach7x.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Do we need first name, surname for maintainers or we would only be using +</I>><i> email? +</I> +Username + firstname/surname. + +><i> If we do store first name, surname are they compulsory, or can be omitted? +</I> +Can be omitted. Those should be sourced from the LDAP. + +><i> Where do we take the information from? Is there a database at the moment, +</I>><i> that we can take maintainers, packages information? +</I> +That precisely the goal of this app. :-) + +><i> Or in other words, do we create new media, maintainer, +</I>><i> package in the app or is that created somewhere else? +</I> +Ask this on mageia-dev@ ml maybe. But try not to overspecify this at this time. + +><i> How do we integrate with ldap? Would that be used to lookup for +</I>><i> administration permissions for maintainers? +</I> +I don't think so. That sort of info would be in the db maintainers. + +><i> Or would we need different users as admins that are not necessarily maintainers. +</I>><i> Would the first maintainer be the admin for a particular package? +</I> +Yes. + +><i> Can the admin of a package be changed later on? +</I> +Yes. (maybe you would better store the "admin" flag in the +relationship between the user and the package). + +><i> P.S. The link for the staging/test application is here for anyone that +</I>><i> missed it first time (I'm adding it to the wiki as well): +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://maintdb.mageia.org.uk/">http://maintdb.mageia.org.uk/</A> +</I> +Cool. Thanks! + +Romain +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000176.html">[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000180.html">[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#179">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#179">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#179">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#179">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000180.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000180.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..96c2d01a7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000180.html @@ -0,0 +1,124 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Maintainers%20db%20app%20questions&In-Reply-To=%3C1295894268.31817.56.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000179.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000184.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Maintainers%20db%20app%20questions&In-Reply-To=%3C1295894268.31817.56.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 24 19:37:48 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000179.html">[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000184.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#180">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#180">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#180">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#180">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le lundi 24 janvier 2011 à 18:07 +0000, Kosmas Chatzimichalis a écrit : +><i> A few questions about the maintainers db application, that are more detailed +</I>><i> than the initial spec. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - Do we need first name, surname for maintainers or we would only be +</I>><i> using email? +</I> +mhh, what about login + email ? +I do not fully understand the question + +><i> - If we do store first name, surname are they compulsory, or can be +</I>><i> omitted? +</I>I would rather fetch them from ldap, or at least, make ldap the +reference for that, and keep the information in the db as cache, so +people have one location to change everything. + +><i> - Where do we take the information from? Is there a database at the +</I>><i> moment, that we can take maintainers, packages information? +</I>We don't have anything yet. + +><i> - If information is taken initially from another database, where is the +</I>><i> new information created? Or in other words, do we create new media, +</I>><i> maintainer, package in the app or is that created somewhere else? +</I>A good question. +Maintainers list come from ldap. + +Media should IMHO be not required, but if needed, I would rather have a +list somewhere acting as a reference. ( maybe ldap ? ). Some people +spoke of having different maintainers for stable and devel, but I do not +think we are enough to have that. + +Packages are not stored anywhere yet, and I do not know if someone +planned something. But packages would likely be created on upload by a +script, with the people uploading becoming the maintainer. + +><i> - How do we integrate with ldap? +</I>for authentication I think + +><i> Would that be used to lookup for +</I>><i> administration permissions for maintainers? Or would we need different users +</I>><i> as admins that are not necessarily maintainers. +</I>I would use the following permissions : +- define a group for people who can connect on the interface ( like, +packagers ) +- define a group that can connect as admin ( like be able to change +anything, ie sysadmins ) + +That was the scheme used at Mandriva, and I think it is sufficient, +So yes, using ldap for admin permission is a good idea. + +><i> - Would the first maintainer be the admin for a particular package? +</I>That could be done, yes but some people would maybe prefer more than 1 +admin, or shared admins with everybody. I can ask during meeting on +Wednesday the opinion of others packagers. + +><i> - Can the admin of a package be changed later on? +</I>That's imho required, yes. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000179.html">[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000184.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#180">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#180">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#180">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#180">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000181.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000181.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..69bccf469 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000181.html @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Viewvc%20installation&In-Reply-To=%3C201101242000.47261.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000172.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000182.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Viewvc%20installation&In-Reply-To=%3C201101242000.47261.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 24 20:00:47 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-webteam] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000182.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#181">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#181">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#181">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#181">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op maandag 24 januari 2011 14:46:09 schreef Michael Scherer: +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> since people have asked for it since a long time, and since no much +</I>><i> people commented on viewvc vs websvn +</I>><i> ( <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-sysadm/2011-January/002145.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-sysadm/2011-January/002145.html</A> +</I>><i> ), and so based on the fact that websvn run svn to get information ( thus +</I>><i> would potentially overload the server when google bot team with yahoo to +</I>><i> explore the server and our patches ), I have setup viewvc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I can also setup websvn if someone really need, but a quick check showed +</I>><i> that both tools are quite similar in term of features, the only +</I>><i> difference being the usage of svn commandline. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There is 2 questions left ( with a default answer with a timeout of 2 +</I>><i> days ) : +</I>><i> - what should be the name ( svn.mageia.org cannot be used, as it point +</I>><i> to a different server, a redirect can be setup to another url +</I>><i> however ) ? +</I>><i> ( default answer : viewvc.mageia.org ) +</I> +i want svn.mageia.org, so perhaps instead of redirect, you could do a +proxypass (with some caching; it's mostly static anyway)? then for all i care, +you can use viewvc or something else, if something else is done later on. + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-webteam] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000182.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#181">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#181">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#181">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#181">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000182.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000182.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c401afad2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000182.html @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Viewvc%20installation&In-Reply-To=%3C20110124210335.GO21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000181.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000183.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation</H1> + <B>nicolas vigier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Viewvc%20installation&In-Reply-To=%3C20110124210335.GO21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 24 22:03:35 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000181.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000183.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#182">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#182">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#182">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#182">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, 24 Jan 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote: + +><i> +</I>><i> i want svn.mageia.org, so perhaps instead of redirect, you could do a +</I>><i> proxypass (with some caching; it's mostly static anyway)? then for all i care, +</I>><i> you can use viewvc or something else, if something else is done later on. +</I> +Why do you want it on svn.mageia.org ? Unless there's a good reason, we +should try to keep it simple. And using a proxy on valstar to redirect +to alamut, which is using a copy of the svn from valstar, is not very +simple. And we're trying to avoid installing too many things on valstar. + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000181.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000183.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#182">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#182">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#182">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#182">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000183.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000183.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9de34164b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000183.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Viewvc%20installation&In-Reply-To=%3C201101251923.35611.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000182.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000190.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Viewvc%20installation&In-Reply-To=%3C201101251923.35611.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jan 25 19:23:35 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000182.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000190.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#183">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#183">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#183">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#183">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op maandag 24 januari 2011 22:03:35 schreef nicolas vigier: +><i> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote: +</I>><i> > i want svn.mageia.org, so perhaps instead of redirect, you could do a +</I>><i> > proxypass (with some caching; it's mostly static anyway)? then for all i +</I>><i> > care, you can use viewvc or something else, if something else is done +</I>><i> > later on. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Why do you want it on svn.mageia.org ? Unless there's a good reason, we +</I>><i> should try to keep it simple. And using a proxy on valstar to redirect +</I>><i> to alamut, which is using a copy of the svn from valstar, is not very +</I>><i> simple. And we're trying to avoid installing too many things on valstar. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-sysadm mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">Mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm</A> +</I> +the only reason i want it on svn; is because that makes it all the more +transparent. ie: for users working with svn just means using svn.mageia.org . +if it's <A HREF="svn://">svn://</A> or <A HREF="http://">http://</A> or svn+<A HREF="ssh://">ssh://</A> or whatever. + +tbh a simple proxypass on a machine that has apache(if indeed it has.) anyway, +is not so complicated. with caching on it, it would reduce the load to the svn +machine. + +perhaps with this setup it would not be needed to have a copy (due to the +caching), but i can be wrong. + +in any case, keeping simple is the best option, but i think from user pov +using svn.mageia.org is just simple for them. +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000182.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000190.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#183">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#183">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#183">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#183">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000184.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000184.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..579a8bae4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000184.html @@ -0,0 +1,100 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Viewvc%20installation&In-Reply-To=%3C201101252201.31240.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000180.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000185.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Viewvc%20installation&In-Reply-To=%3C201101252201.31240.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jan 25 22:01:31 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000180.html">[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000185.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#184">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#184">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#184">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#184">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op dinsdag 25 januari 2011 21:37:08 schreef Pascal Terjan: +><i> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 18:23, Maarten Vanraes +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > Op maandag 24 januari 2011 22:03:35 schreef nicolas vigier: +</I>><i> >> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote: +</I>><i> >> > i want svn.mageia.org, so perhaps instead of redirect, you could do a +</I>><i> >> > proxypass (with some caching; it's mostly static anyway)? then for all +</I>><i> >> > i care, you can use viewvc or something else, if something else is +</I>><i> >> > done later on. +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> Why do you want it on svn.mageia.org ? Unless there's a good reason, we +</I>><i> >> should try to keep it simple. And using a proxy on valstar to redirect +</I>><i> >> to alamut, which is using a copy of the svn from valstar, is not very +</I>><i> >> simple. And we're trying to avoid installing too many things on valstar. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > the only reason i want it on svn; is because that makes it all the more +</I>><i> > transparent. ie: for users working with svn just means using +</I>><i> > svn.mageia.org . if it's <A HREF="svn://">svn://</A> or <A HREF="http://">http://</A> or svn+<A HREF="ssh://">ssh://</A> or whatever. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> svn is accessible on there with <A HREF="svn://">svn://</A> or svn+<A HREF="ssh://">ssh://</A> and we can add +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://">http://</A> but that would be to use svn, not for the interface +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > tbh a simple proxypass on a machine that has apache(if indeed it has.) +</I>><i> > anyway, is not so complicated. with caching on it, it would reduce the +</I>><i> > load to the svn machine. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > perhaps with this setup it would not be needed to have a copy (due to the +</I>><i> > caching), but i can be wrong. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > in any case, keeping simple is the best option, but i think from user pov +</I>><i> > using svn.mageia.org is just simple for them. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well using svn for svn access (over anything, including http) and +</I>><i> something else for a web interface makes sense to me +</I> +Well, i gave my thoughts on it, you all can decide on what you want. + +NOTE: you can even have both svn access and viewvc interface over the same +server... like svn.mageia.org/viewvc could be proxypassed to the viewvc +installation. +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000180.html">[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000185.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#184">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#184">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#184">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#184">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000185.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000185.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f8844a9db --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000185.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%202011/week%204%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinChxXW017OERmbYK4qpv81r6-4v%2Bx0L-N%2Bj49f%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000184.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000186.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%202011/week%204%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinChxXW017OERmbYK4qpv81r6-4v%2Bx0L-N%2Bj49f%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jan 26 00:48:20 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000184.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000186.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#185">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#185">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#185">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#185">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi there, + +as usual: <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-web">irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-web</A> at 14:00 UTC. + + * no specifics here, see last meeting notes for the progress review +<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-web/2011/mageia-web.2011-01-19-14.12.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-web/2011/mageia-web.2011-01-19-14.12.html</A> + * please add your topic + +I may be late by ~15 minutes. + +I wonder here too (as for marcom team) if we couldn't spend less time +in the meetings, and have the progress review made here (or, for that +matter, on some dedicated interface). Just a thought if that could +help. We will still need to have a regular, weekly meeting point, +would it be only 10 minutes long. + +Cheers, + +Romain +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000184.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000186.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#185">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#185">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#185">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#185">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000186.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000186.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0392fe1be --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000186.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%202011/week%204%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3C201101260817.41780.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000185.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000187.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%202011/week%204%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3C201101260817.41780.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jan 26 08:17:41 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000185.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000187.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#186">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#186">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#186">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#186">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op woensdag 26 januari 2011 00:48:20 schreef Romain d'Alverny: +><i> Hi there, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> as usual: <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-web">irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-web</A> at 14:00 UTC. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> * no specifics here, see last meeting notes for the progress review +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-web/2011/mageia-web.2011-01-19-14.12.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-web/2011/mageia-web.2011-01-19-14.12.html</A> +</I>><i> * please add your topic +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I may be late by ~15 minutes. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I wonder here too (as for marcom team) if we couldn't spend less time +</I>><i> in the meetings, and have the progress review made here (or, for that +</I>><i> matter, on some dedicated interface). Just a thought if that could +</I>><i> help. We will still need to have a regular, weekly meeting point, +</I>><i> would it be only 10 minutes long. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Romain +</I> + +afaik blingme did some bugfixing on identity, i donno how far he got. perhaps +you could ask him. +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000185.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000187.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#186">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#186">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#186">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#186">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000187.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000187.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5fdda5284 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000187.html @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%202011/week%204%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinPppyrvThfAX8e1AghzNHSoixfnuJbzE2AASg-%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000186.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000191.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%202011/week%204%20meeting&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinPppyrvThfAX8e1AghzNHSoixfnuJbzE2AASg-%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jan 26 15:59:41 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000186.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000191.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#187">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#187">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#187">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#187">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 00:48, Romain d'Alverny <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Hi there, [...] +</I> +And... here are the logs: +<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-web/2011/mageia-web.2011-01-26-14.22.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-web/2011/mageia-web.2011-01-26-14.22.html</A> + +Missing points to review: + * catdap/identity (some commits this week, what's the status, issues +to port to bugzilla) (blingme) + * blogs migration and planet setup (damsweb) + * website migration (rda) + +Cheers! + +Romain +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000186.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000191.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#187">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#187">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#187">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#187">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000188.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000188.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..21fb84a7e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000188.html @@ -0,0 +1,116 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Viewvc%20installation&In-Reply-To=%3C1296069331.3567.59.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000190.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000189.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Viewvc%20installation&In-Reply-To=%3C1296069331.3567.59.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jan 26 20:15:31 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000190.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000189.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#188">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#188">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#188">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#188">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le lundi 24 janvier 2011 à 14:46 +0100, Michael Scherer a écrit : +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> since people have asked for it since a long time, and since no much +</I>><i> people commented on viewvc vs websvn +</I>><i> ( <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-sysadm/2011-January/002145.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-sysadm/2011-January/002145.html</A> ), and so based on the fact that websvn run svn to get information ( thus would potentially overload the server when google bot team with yahoo to explore the server and our patches ), I have setup viewvc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I can also setup websvn if someone really need, but a quick check showed +</I>><i> that both tools are quite similar in term of features, the only +</I>><i> difference being the usage of svn commandline. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There is 2 questions left ( with a default answer with a timeout of 2 +</I>><i> days ) : +</I>><i> - what should be the name ( svn.mageia.org cannot be used, as it point +</I>><i> to a different server, a redirect can be setup to another url +</I>><i> however ) ? +</I>><i> ( default answer : viewvc.mageia.org ) +</I> +So for now, the proposal : +websvn +svnweb +svn-browse +vc +codeview +svn + +svn is a no-go, for reasons exposed before. + +vc and codeview should IMHO be kept for something that is not svn +specific, and viewvc is ( unless we go back to cvs, of course... ). I +would love to have a codeview that point to svn/git/whatever + +instructions or something like that ( like a coder portal ), so running +viewvc on that vhost do not seems a good idea. Ie, it would waste a good +name for something too specific. So I would in favor of not using them. + +websvn is the name of another software to view svn repository. We all +agree to not use viewvc for the vhost, so using websvn seems rather +couter intuitive. + +this let us with svn-browse vs svnweb. svnweb is shorter, and do not +have a hyphen so it is easier to type. + +So svnweb ? + +Ie : + +svnweb -> point to viewvc + +svn -> redirect on svnweb ( later, if enough people complain about +this ) + +vc/codeview/later -> some portal that explain where to find code, how to +get it, licensing, etc ? ( later ) + +So anybody has something else to add ( or strongly disagree and can give +convincing reasons ) ? +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000190.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000189.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#188">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#188">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#188">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#188">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000189.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000189.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..def625c15 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000189.html @@ -0,0 +1,122 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Viewvc%20installation&In-Reply-To=%3C201101262035.43663.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000188.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000171.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Viewvc%20installation&In-Reply-To=%3C201101262035.43663.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jan 26 20:35:43 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000188.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000171.html">[Mageia-webteam] Current bugzilla status +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#189">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#189">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#189">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#189">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op woensdag 26 januari 2011 20:15:31 schreef Michael Scherer: +><i> Le lundi 24 janvier 2011 à 14:46 +0100, Michael Scherer a écrit : +</I>><i> > Hi, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > since people have asked for it since a long time, and since no much +</I>><i> > people commented on viewvc vs websvn +</I>><i> > ( <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-sysadm/2011-January/002145.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-sysadm/2011-January/002145.html</A> +</I>><i> > ), and so based on the fact that websvn run svn to get information ( +</I>><i> > thus would potentially overload the server when google bot team with +</I>><i> > yahoo to explore the server and our patches ), I have setup viewvc. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I can also setup websvn if someone really need, but a quick check showed +</I>><i> > that both tools are quite similar in term of features, the only +</I>><i> > difference being the usage of svn commandline. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > There is 2 questions left ( with a default answer with a timeout of 2 +</I>><i> > days ) : +</I>><i> > - what should be the name ( svn.mageia.org cannot be used, as it point +</I>><i> > to a different server, a redirect can be setup to another url +</I>><i> > however ) ? +</I>><i> > ( default answer : viewvc.mageia.org ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So for now, the proposal : +</I>><i> websvn +</I>><i> svnweb +</I>><i> svn-browse +</I>><i> vc +</I>><i> codeview +</I>><i> svn +</I>><i> +</I>><i> svn is a no-go, for reasons exposed before. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> vc and codeview should IMHO be kept for something that is not svn +</I>><i> specific, and viewvc is ( unless we go back to cvs, of course... ). I +</I>><i> would love to have a codeview that point to svn/git/whatever + +</I>><i> instructions or something like that ( like a coder portal ), so running +</I>><i> viewvc on that vhost do not seems a good idea. Ie, it would waste a good +</I>><i> name for something too specific. So I would in favor of not using them. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> websvn is the name of another software to view svn repository. We all +</I>><i> agree to not use viewvc for the vhost, so using websvn seems rather +</I>><i> couter intuitive. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> this let us with svn-browse vs svnweb. svnweb is shorter, and do not +</I>><i> have a hyphen so it is easier to type. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So svnweb ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ie : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> svnweb -> point to viewvc +</I>><i> +</I>><i> svn -> redirect on svnweb ( later, if enough people complain about +</I>><i> this ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> vc/codeview/later -> some portal that explain where to find code, how to +</I>><i> get it, licensing, etc ? ( later ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So anybody has something else to add ( or strongly disagree and can give +</I>><i> convincing reasons ) ? +</I> +svnweb could be mistaken for websvn; but i still like it better. also so later +we could have gitweb as similar name. (eg: if we decide to keep packages on +svn and git for software) + +the codeview portal sounds like a good idea +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000188.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000171.html">[Mageia-webteam] Current bugzilla status +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#189">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#189">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#189">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#189">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000190.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000190.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ede3f1bbd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000190.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Viewvc%20installation&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimS2%3DvzWCidqJoOmbFad0pyVeMsQ8M%2BOsDupdMW%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000183.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000188.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation</H1> + <B>Pascal Terjan</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Viewvc%20installation&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimS2%3DvzWCidqJoOmbFad0pyVeMsQ8M%2BOsDupdMW%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation">pterjan at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jan 25 21:37:08 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000183.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000188.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#190">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#190">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#190">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#190">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 18:23, Maarten Vanraes +<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Op maandag 24 januari 2011 22:03:35 schreef nicolas vigier: +</I>>><i> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote: +</I>>><i> > i want svn.mageia.org, so perhaps instead of redirect, you could do a +</I>>><i> > proxypass (with some caching; it's mostly static anyway)? then for all i +</I>>><i> > care, you can use viewvc or something else, if something else is done +</I>>><i> > later on. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Why do you want it on svn.mageia.org ? Unless there's a good reason, we +</I>>><i> should try to keep it simple. And using a proxy on valstar to redirect +</I>>><i> to alamut, which is using a copy of the svn from valstar, is not very +</I>>><i> simple. And we're trying to avoid installing too many things on valstar. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> the only reason i want it on svn; is because that makes it all the more +</I>><i> transparent. ie: for users working with svn just means using svn.mageia.org . +</I>><i> if it's <A HREF="svn://">svn://</A> or <A HREF="http://">http://</A> or svn+<A HREF="ssh://">ssh://</A> or whatever. +</I> +svn is accessible on there with <A HREF="svn://">svn://</A> or svn+<A HREF="ssh://">ssh://</A> and we can add +<A HREF="http://">http://</A> but that would be to use svn, not for the interface + +><i> tbh a simple proxypass on a machine that has apache(if indeed it has.) anyway, +</I>><i> is not so complicated. with caching on it, it would reduce the load to the svn +</I>><i> machine. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> perhaps with this setup it would not be needed to have a copy (due to the +</I>><i> caching), but i can be wrong. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> in any case, keeping simple is the best option, but i think from user pov +</I>><i> using svn.mageia.org is just simple for them. +</I> +Well using svn for svn access (over anything, including http) and +something else for a web interface makes sense to me +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000183.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000188.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#190">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#190">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#190">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#190">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000191.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000191.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0a73d8d00 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000191.html @@ -0,0 +1,95 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20planet.mageia.org%20-%20info/discuss%20about%20the%0A%09installation&In-Reply-To=%3C9979d99ca7b797dd891fca25f1b42d7a%40localhost%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000187.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000194.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation</H1> + <B>Damien Lallement</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20planet.mageia.org%20-%20info/discuss%20about%20the%0A%09installation&In-Reply-To=%3C9979d99ca7b797dd891fca25f1b42d7a%40localhost%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation">mageia at damsweb.net + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Jan 28 13:31:21 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000187.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000194.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#191">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#191">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#191">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#191">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hello folks, + +planet.mageia.org is an old discussion (started in September (mostly +IRL) when we installed blogs). +It's an important website to spread Mageia and an aggregator about the +project. + +As previously discussed on IRC or IRL, we have analyzed the different +web based aggregator platforms we known: +- planetplanet (<A HREF="http://www.planetplanet.org/">http://www.planetplanet.org/</A>) +- planet venus (<A HREF="http://intertwingly.net/code/venus/">http://intertwingly.net/code/venus/</A>) + +Then, we met Pascal Chevrel, from Mozilla Europe, in November, and +discussed on a lot of things. +He explained us how they were managing the Mozilla Europe Planet and +made us discovered moonmoon (<A HREF="http://moonmoon.org">http://moonmoon.org</A>). +This platform fits all our requirements: "Moonmoon is stupidly simple" +(no DB, no comments, no votes, flat files, ...) + +We expect to install this web based agregator on "champagne" to start +ASAP the Mageia Planet. + +For know, we thought, for agregatted blogs on it, of the following +rules: +- anyone who asks for it +- who is peer in a team +- only post with a Mageia tag will appear on the planet. + +What do you think about all of this? Any comments or remarks? +Thank you for the feedback. + +Cheers, +-- +Damien Lallement +aka "damsweb" or "coincoin" on IRC and twitter + +<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A> + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000187.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000194.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#191">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#191">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#191">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#191">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000192.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000192.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..22dc74b07 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000192.html @@ -0,0 +1,95 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Starting%20to%20clean%20the%20mess%20of%20web%20services&In-Reply-To=%3C1296228240.4639.59.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000208.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000193.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Starting%20to%20clean%20the%20mess%20of%20web%20services&In-Reply-To=%3C1296228240.4639.59.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Jan 28 16:24:00 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000208.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000193.html">[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#192">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#192">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#192">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#192">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi, + +as there is a growing number of external tools used all around the +project for official stuff in some form of anarchy ( the last one I +discovered today is dlvr.it ), I propose that we add on the wiki the +list of services used, and who has the password, who created it, etc. + +Later, we should ensure that enough people have the password to prevent +catastrophic bus error or what happened to the Mandriva twitter account. + +And we should better find a way to not have to rely on member memories +( or "save on my computer" checkbox for question of reliability, +security, etc, and password management ( like not having to distribute +to a unspecified list of people ). + +For example, for flickr, we could imagine some kind of system where +pictures are first uploaded temporarily on our server , and then pushed +to flickr. So people do not have to use a shared account and we know who +did what, who is active, etc. + +So the first step for that is to list the service used, it is fast, and +who currently know the password, I started the list on the wiki : + +<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=sysadmin#list_of_webservices_password">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=sysadmin#list_of_webservices_password</A> + + +-- +Michael Scherer + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000208.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000193.html">[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#192">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#192">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#192">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#192">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000193.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000193.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ba3f8b6eb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000193.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Starting%20to%20clean%20the%20mess%20of%20web%20services&In-Reply-To=%3Cee2d485e26d1e66a0484b639f9c3dd71%40localhost%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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Any comments or remarks? +</I>><i> Thank you for the feedback. +</I> +i think for the current needs it's perfect. please, let us know about the +progress about this work (and try to publish a related post in the blog when +it is ready) +><i> +</I>><i> Cheers, +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Damien Lallement +</I>><i> aka "damsweb" or "coincoin" on IRC and twitter +</I>><i> +</I> +cheers, +Marcello +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000191.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000197.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#194">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#194">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#194">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#194">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000195.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000195.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..17e12ceb1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000195.html @@ -0,0 +1,100 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Starting%20to%20clean%20the%20mess%20of%20web%20services&In-Reply-To=%3Ccfa90894acebd454ba311ba2859921e3%40www.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000193.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000196.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Starting%20to%20clean%20the%20mess%20of%20web%20services&In-Reply-To=%3Ccfa90894acebd454ba311ba2859921e3%40www.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jan 29 13:43:19 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000193.html">[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000196.html">[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#195">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#195">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#195">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#195">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:30:42 +0100, Damien Lallement wrote: +><i> On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:24:00 +0100, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> +</I>><i> wrote: +</I>>><i> Hi, +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> [...] +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=sysadmin#list_of_webservices_password">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=sysadmin#list_of_webservices_password</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Done. :-) +</I> + In the [...], there was : + "the list of services used, and who has the password, who created it, + etc." + + the "who created it" part is not really filled. Not that it is + important per se, but we do not know + whose email have been used, who know the possible secret question + answer, etc. + + And a 2nd step would be to assign this to the email of the + association president, as it seems rather logical to have him/her + control this, as we likely + all agree this is a important part of the communication. + + Ideally, explaining what is used with each account would be nice. For + example, google is used + for name reservation at gmail, but also for google analytics ( despites + us still only having + a draft of privacy policy ), and for youtube ( unless there is a + separate account for that too ). + The same goes for the others. + +-- + Michael Scherer +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000193.html">[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000196.html">[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#195">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#195">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#195">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#195">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000196.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000196.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9d1c10aba --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000196.html @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Starting%20to%20clean%20the%20mess%20of%20web%20services&In-Reply-To=%3C20110129161259.GD21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000195.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000199.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services</H1> + <B>nicolas vigier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Starting%20to%20clean%20the%20mess%20of%20web%20services&In-Reply-To=%3C20110129161259.GD21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jan 29 17:12:59 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000195.html">[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000199.html">[Mageia-webteam] Join +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#196">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#196">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#196">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#196">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, 29 Jan 2011, Michael Scherer wrote: + +><i> On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:30:42 +0100, Damien Lallement wrote: +</I>>><i> On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:24:00 +0100, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> +</I>>><i> wrote: +</I>>>><i> Hi, +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> [...] +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=sysadmin#list_of_webservices_password">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=sysadmin#list_of_webservices_password</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Done. :-) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In the [...], there was : +</I>><i> "the list of services used, and who has the password, who created it, etc." +</I>><i> +</I>><i> the "who created it" part is not really filled. Not that it is important +</I>><i> per se, but we do not know +</I>><i> whose email have been used, who know the possible secret question answer, +</I>><i> etc. +</I> +Most are registered with mageiaorg gmail account, and were created the +day the name of the project was decided (to avoid someone else registering +it). + +><i> And a 2nd step would be to assign this to the email of the +</I>><i> association president, as it seems rather logical to have him/her control +</I>><i> this, as we likely +</I>><i> all agree this is a important part of the communication. +</I> +Or <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">board at mageia.org</A> ? + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000195.html">[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000199.html">[Mageia-webteam] Join +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#196">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#196">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#196">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#196">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000197.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000197.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..51e31a31d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000197.html @@ -0,0 +1,151 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20planet.mageia.org%20-%20info/discuss%20about%20the%0A%20installation&In-Reply-To=%3C1296442052.26055.46.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000194.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000198.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20planet.mageia.org%20-%20info/discuss%20about%20the%0A%20installation&In-Reply-To=%3C1296442052.26055.46.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 31 03:47:32 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000194.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000198.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#197">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#197">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#197">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#197">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le vendredi 28 janvier 2011 à 13:31 +0100, Damien Lallement a écrit : +><i> Hello folks, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> planet.mageia.org is an old discussion (started in September (mostly +</I>><i> IRL) when we installed blogs). +</I>><i> It's an important website to spread Mageia and an aggregator about the +</I>><i> project. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As previously discussed on IRC or IRL, we have analyzed the different +</I>><i> web based aggregator platforms we known: +</I>><i> - planetplanet (<A HREF="http://www.planetplanet.org/">http://www.planetplanet.org/</A>) +</I>><i> - planet venus (<A HREF="http://intertwingly.net/code/venus/">http://intertwingly.net/code/venus/</A>) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Then, we met Pascal Chevrel, from Mozilla Europe, in November, and +</I>><i> discussed on a lot of things. +</I>><i> He explained us how they were managing the Mozilla Europe Planet and +</I>><i> made us discovered moonmoon (<A HREF="http://moonmoon.org">http://moonmoon.org</A>). +</I>><i> This platform fits all our requirements: "Moonmoon is stupidly simple" +</I>><i> (no DB, no comments, no votes, flat files, ...) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We expect to install this web based agregator on "champagne" to start +</I>><i> ASAP the Mageia Planet. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For know, we thought, for agregatted blogs on it, of the following +</I>><i> rules: +</I>><i> - anyone who asks for it +</I>><i> - who is peer in a team +</I>><i> - only post with a Mageia tag will appear on the planet. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What do you think about all of this? Any comments or remarks? +</I>><i> Thank you for the feedback. +</I> +That's quite short on lots of areas. + +I will let the future technical hurdles aside and keep the real fun for +later, and just goes on the obvious ones : + +"post with a mageia tag" just mean nothing, that doesn't give any +indication. If I use a blog system that do not support tag, I cannot be +syndicated ? If I post commercial stuff ( already happened ) or insult +people ( also already happened ), that's ok since there is a tag ? +If this is not ok, what does happen ? + +Another usual area of contention is "Can someone post in a foreign +language" ? + +What happen if someone is no longer a peer, does it get un-syndicated ? + +What if someone or someone's post are a cause of controversy without +being clearly immoral/illegal/etc, and people complains ? +Non exhaustive list of people complains : +- Planet gnome : + - Mark Shuttleworth ( controversy before he got syndicated ), + - Phillipe Van Hoof ( belgian policy and pro flamand topics, and + quite extreme opinions ), + - David Schlesinger ( basically dissing gnu zealots, and doing Apple + promotion ), + - Miguel Da Icaza ( mono promotion ) +Planet Fedora : + - María Gracia Leandro ( posted daily photos on her blog ), + - Nicu Buculei ( posted a photo seen as sexist ( removed now ) ) +Planet Debian : + - Raphael Herzog ( used some tools seen as too intrusive on a + privacy level for the debian server, was seen as being asked + to be "flattred" ) + +and that's all the recent examples I have got on my head. Not that I +cannot find more if I seek, but I guess that's sufficient to explain +that there is quite interesting challenge preparing. + +Not to mention there is also small potential legal issues : +Should we ask the content be under a free license ( or the website would +not mix ) ? +Are we ( we == association ) responsible for this ? +( IMHO, it would not matter much under DADVSI provisions, and I do not +expect much trouble at all, but the question have to be asked none the +less, at least to be consistent with ourself ) + + While being co editor at Planet Mandriva, I just didn't care about that +( PLF style ), and we were also quite 'liberal' in term of choosing who +could enter and who would get out, but that didn't cause trouble. People +could post what they wanted about what they wanted, in the language they +wanted. + +But given the numerous issues that I have seen while discussing with +people in charge of others planets, more precise guidelines should be +described. + +Or if you do not want guideline ( which I can also understand, because +that's usually a point of friction and so a time lose ), this should be +made clearer. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000194.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000198.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#197">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#197">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#197">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#197">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000198.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000198.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..57c2eedae --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000198.html @@ -0,0 +1,126 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20planet.mageia.org%20-%20info/discuss%20about%20the%0A%09installation&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin3T1YdiyUuHjOyfU%3DZmWAB7fmed4Xs83DvT2o%2B%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000197.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000201.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20planet.mageia.org%20-%20info/discuss%20about%20the%0A%09installation&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin3T1YdiyUuHjOyfU%3DZmWAB7fmed4Xs83DvT2o%2B%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 31 09:55:01 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000197.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000201.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#198">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#198">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#198">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#198">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 03:47, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +><i> "post with a mageia tag" just mean nothing, that doesn't give any +</I>><i> indication. If I use a blog system that do not support tag, I cannot be +</I>><i> syndicated ? If I post commercial stuff ( already happened ) or insult +</I>><i> people ( also already happened ), that's ok since there is a tag ? +</I>><i> If this is not ok, what does happen ? +</I> +Why don't propose simple solutions as well here then? + + a. an author gives the right feed URL that does the filter on her +side (up to her to use her system of choice for that) + b. (provided we get that implemented on our side) the feed items (RSS +2 or Atom) have a category attribute with "mageia" we filter on + +And yes, it has to be filtered by the Mageia topic; off-topic stuff +(regarding the project as a whole, it's not only about technical +stuff) should not appear in such a feed. And yes, we rely on authors +benevolence in this regard. + +><i> Another usual area of contention is "Can someone post in a foreign +</I>><i> language" ? +</I> +That's an option to have locale-based planets, yes, if there are +enough of different locales in play. + +><i> What happen if someone is no longer a peer, does it get un-syndicated ? +</I> +On request (from either side). + +><i> What if someone or someone's post are a cause of controversy without +</I>><i> being clearly immoral/illegal/etc, and people complains ? +</I> +Case by case management. People who get syndicated have to see this as +a privilege and be careful with it, as careful they are regarding the +project and the community. + +Marcom team will manage this (feed syndication) and will have a final +say on issues solving. + +><i> and that's all the recent examples I have got on my head. Not that I +</I>><i> cannot find more if I seek, but I guess that's sufficient to explain +</I>><i> that there is quite interesting challenge preparing. +</I> +We can't prepare for all that can go wrong. And we won't. It's not +worth the time focusing more on what can go wrong than on what can be +good. + +><i> Should we ask the content be under a free license ( or the website would +</I>><i> not mix ) ? +</I> +No. A verbatim (or more permissive) license is enough and ok. +Requesting to be syndicated is a de-facto license to at least +reproduce verbatim ones blog posts (or it makes no sense to ask to be +syndicated). + +><i> Are we ( we == association ) responsible for this ? +</I> +No (French law). That's only a technical syndication service. Deciding +whose blogs get syndicated does not equate editing these blogs future +contents. + +><i> Or if you do not want guideline ( which I can also understand, because +</I>><i> that's usually a point of friction and so a time lose ), this should be +</I>><i> made clearer. +</I> +That's what a draft is for: set first loose rules good enough to start +and adapt with time. + + +Romain +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000197.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000201.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#198">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#198">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#198">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#198">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000199.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000199.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c2e396a77 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000199.html @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Join + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Join&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DEKkP0v8yksMZEntiQUn_7XguDiSM08HAr_xHV%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000196.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000200.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Join</H1> + <B>Romulo Pires</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Join&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DEKkP0v8yksMZEntiQUn_7XguDiSM08HAr_xHV%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Join">romulo.pires123 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 31 12:26:56 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000196.html">[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000200.html">[Mageia-webteam] Join +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#199">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#199">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#199">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#199">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hello, I'm starting in mageia project and i want to help... i need +know what have to do. 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I'm PHP programmer! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I want to help =) +</I>><i> +</I>What are your level? :) + +-- +Sandro Cazzaniga +IRC: Kharec (irc.freenode.net) +Twitter: @Kharec +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000199.html">[Mageia-webteam] Join +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000202.html">[Mageia-webteam] Join +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#200">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#200">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#200">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#200">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000201.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000201.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..821d0ea9f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000201.html @@ -0,0 +1,134 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20planet.mageia.org%20-%20info/discuss%20about%20the%0A%20installation&In-Reply-To=%3C1296473417.11975.26.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000198.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000203.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20planet.mageia.org%20-%20info/discuss%20about%20the%0A%20installation&In-Reply-To=%3C1296473417.11975.26.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 31 12:30:17 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000198.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000203.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#201">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#201">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#201">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#201">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le lundi 31 janvier 2011 à 09:55 +0100, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : + +><i> b. (provided we get that implemented on our side) the feed items (RSS +</I>><i> 2 or Atom) have a category attribute with "mageia" we filter on +</I> +I assume the goal is automated filtering by reader and tools ? +( cause, that's not the way I do use my feedreader, but I guess some +others may work like this ). + +If this is a desirable feature ( and that's IMHO a good idea ), then +this must be supported by the tool ( or decide to patch it, but I think +we previously agreed to avoid that when possible ). So while I have +nothing against moonmoon ( and not because the author is from Metz ), it +may not have this feature. + +><i> And yes, it has to be filtered by the Mageia topic; off-topic stuff +</I>><i> (regarding the project as a whole, it's not only about technical +</I>><i> stuff) should not appear in such a feed. And yes, we rely on authors +</I>><i> benevolence in this regard. +</I> +Well, this has to be clearly said. That's not the same policy on all +planet, and I think that having a tag is not enough ( see Adam W post on +planet Mandriva, some people have seen them too off topic, but it has a +tag Mandriva nonetheless ). + +><i> > Another usual area of contention is "Can someone post in a foreign +</I>><i> > language" ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's an option to have locale-based planets, yes, if there are +</I>><i> enough of different locales in play. +</I> +Well, if I post in french ( which I often do ), should it be encouraged, +refused, accepted ? I have no opinion on this again ( and do not plan to +be syndicated at all ), but that's usually something that cause +discussion, and I think it is better to not waste people time by at +least anticipating now the issue. + +><i> > What if someone or someone's post are a cause of controversy without +</I>><i> > being clearly immoral/illegal/etc, and people complains ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Case by case management. People who get syndicated have to see this as +</I>><i> a privilege and be careful with it, as careful they are regarding the +</I>><i> project and the community. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marcom team will manage this (feed syndication) and will have a final +</I>><i> say on issues solving. +</I> +Marcom, marketing or communication ? + +( AFAIK, even with talk of merging them, they are still separate, no ? ) + +Shouldn't the board have the final say ( as one of the duty is conflict +management ) ? + + +><i> > and that's all the recent examples I have got on my head. Not that I +</I>><i> > cannot find more if I seek, but I guess that's sufficient to explain +</I>><i> > that there is quite interesting challenge preparing. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We can't prepare for all that can go wrong. And we won't. It's not +</I>><i> worth the time focusing more on what can go wrong than on what can be +</I>><i> good. +</I> +Of course, we can't prepare for all that will goes wrong. But I think +that a few concepts are sufficient to prepare for what went wrong on +other projects. + +We can hardly call "community feed aggregation" a new field of +experimentation, given the fact that it is a common practice in free +software since years. And we can also take for granted that unspecified +things will likely be interpreted differently. + +So just giving a few clear guidelines now about what should and +shouldn't be syndicated will likely prevent losing lots of time later. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000198.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000203.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#201">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#201">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#201">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#201">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000202.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000202.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b05705867 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000202.html @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Join + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Join&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimc3Ne0zTpKO7FfH%3DQwkxg5d1gBRTREz7rCkRgn%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000200.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000207.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Join</H1> + <B>Romulo Pires</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Join&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimc3Ne0zTpKO7FfH%3DQwkxg5d1gBRTREz7rCkRgn%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Join">romulo.pires123 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 31 12:38:41 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000200.html">[Mageia-webteam] Join +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000207.html">[Mageia-webteam] Speaking of calendar +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#202">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#202">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#202">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#202">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/1/31 Cazzaniga Sandro <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> Le 31/01/2011 12:26, Romulo Pires a écrit : +</I>>><i> Hello, I'm starting in mageia project and i want to help... i need +</I>>><i> know what have to do. I'm PHP programmer! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I want to help =) +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> What are your level? :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Sandro Cazzaniga +</I>><i> IRC: Kharec (irc.freenode.net) +</I>><i> Twitter: @Kharec +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-webteam mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">Mageia-webteam at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam</A> +</I>><i> +</I> +My level is Intermediate :P + + +-- +Romulo Pires Pinto +UFF/IC/BCC +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000200.html">[Mageia-webteam] Join +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000207.html">[Mageia-webteam] Speaking of calendar +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#202">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#202">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#202">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#202">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000203.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000203.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..aca1d8cc5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000203.html @@ -0,0 +1,119 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20planet.mageia.org%20-%20info/discuss%20about%20the%0A%09installation&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimN9MQ51d1R%3D08_LN-N%2B9zJhZZAWYNLj7LJVHmV%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000201.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000204.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20planet.mageia.org%20-%20info/discuss%20about%20the%0A%09installation&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimN9MQ51d1R%3D08_LN-N%2B9zJhZZAWYNLj7LJVHmV%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 31 16:50:57 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000201.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000204.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#203">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#203">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#203">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#203">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:30, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +><i> If this is a desirable feature ( and that's IMHO a good idea ), then +</I>><i> this must be supported by the tool ( or decide to patch it, but I think +</I>><i> we previously agreed to avoid that when possible ). So while I have +</I>><i> nothing against moonmoon ( and not because the author is from Metz ), it +</I>><i> may not have this feature. +</I> +Sure. It looks like it doesn't. But that's not the hard part, I've got +a patch ready for that (highly unlikely to make it to the master +branch though). + +We've got to decide whether we leave it to the author to provide a +feed filtered on her side, or whether we do the filtering based on +category (one is exclusive of the other, provided one would should the +former because categories are not available on their platform). + +>><i> And yes, it has to be filtered by the Mageia topic; off-topic stuff +</I>>><i> (regarding the project as a whole, it's not only about technical +</I>>><i> stuff) should not appear in such a feed. And yes, we rely on authors +</I>>><i> benevolence in this regard. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, this has to be clearly said. That's not the same policy on all +</I>><i> planet, and I think that having a tag is not enough ( see Adam W post on +</I>><i> planet Mandriva, some people have seen them too off topic, but it has a +</I>><i> tag Mandriva nonetheless ). +</I> +How do you suggest to manage it otherwise? + +><i> Well, if I post in french ( which I often do ), should it be encouraged, +</I>><i> refused, accepted ? +</I> +Should be accepted. If there is a significant number of posts in a +given locale, it may be the occasion to open a separate, +locale-specific planet. We can plan for this, or do it already +(English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, other?). What do you all think? + +><i> Marcom, marketing or communication ? +</I> +Both. + +><i> ( AFAIK, even with talk of merging them, they are still separate, no ? ) +</I> +That's a separate issue (merging them has not been disputed since it's +been proposed; at most, encouraged). + +><i> Shouldn't the board have the final say ( as one of the duty is conflict +</I>><i> management ) ? +</I> +The board always has a final say, that's a given. But that should +still be exceptional and repeating it over and over won't entrust +teams on themselves. + +><i> We can hardly call "community feed aggregation" a new field of +</I>><i> experimentation, given the fact that it is a common practice in free +</I>><i> software since years. And we can also take for granted that unspecified +</I>><i> things will likely be interpreted differently. +</I> +That's the interesting part; to let thing go different. + +Nonetheless, how would you act on this then? 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And yes, we rely on authors +</I>><i> >> benevolence in this regard. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Well, this has to be clearly said. That's not the same policy on all +</I>><i> > planet, and I think that having a tag is not enough ( see Adam W post on +</I>><i> > planet Mandriva, some people have seen them too off topic, but it has a +</I>><i> > tag Mandriva nonetheless ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> How do you suggest to manage it otherwise? +</I> +No, I do not say that using a tag is not good on a technical level. I +say that the definition should be IMHO clearer than "using a tag". Ie, +what do we expect on the tag. + +><i> > Marcom, marketing or communication ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Both. +</I> +Well, to me, this look like the job of communication more than +marketing, but maybe I mistake the purpose of the marketing team. + +><i> > Shouldn't the board have the final say ( as one of the duty is conflict +</I>><i> > management ) ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The board always has a final say, that's a given. But that should +</I>><i> still be exceptional and repeating it over and over won't entrust +</I>><i> teams on themselves. +</I> +If we entrust the marketing team to do conflict management and editorial +control, it should be clearly said. If the duty is shared among the +board, the web team, the communication team, the marketing team, it may +not be so final say, and I can only foresee potential conflicts. + +><i> > We can hardly call "community feed aggregation" a new field of +</I>><i> > experimentation, given the fact that it is a common practice in free +</I>><i> > software since years. And we can also take for granted that unspecified +</I>><i> > things will likely be interpreted differently. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's the interesting part; to let thing go different. +</I> +If we want to be different, then I still have my old proposal of having +a feed of feeds instead of a feed of articles. But this requires to +write lots of software, patchs and a protocol ( and not enough space in +the margin for this ) + +><i> Nonetheless, how would you act on this then? (filtering, policy for +</I>><i> aggregation, etc.) +</I> +Personally, I would not do it. At least, not now. All teams are not +started, website is still at zarb, blogs also at zarb, catdap is not +announced ( and would be nice with more polish ), lots of more pressing +needs ( maintainers db, wiki ), etc. + + +Now, if I wanted to do it, I would still aim for having the minimal +requirement of maintainability. People ( as long they have a email +alias, ie are peers ) decide what they blog, how they blog, etc. Some +kind of wiki way applied to feed aggregations. I would even push to +delegate the feeds in ldap so people can change themselves without +anyone intervention. + + +But let's pretend we should have to decide and what to filter ( because +i am pretty sure that the free-for-all POV is not universally shared ). + +First, I would try to clearly articulate the goal of the website. Having +"a regular stream of news about Mageia" is not the same as "discovering +the life of contributors". For example, the aforementioned chocolate +cake pictures is likely not ok if the goal is to speak only of Mageia. + +Getting the target audience is also important, and anticipate where it +should be displayed. + +This allows to know if we want someone see the word fuck or not. We may +not want to have strong political comments on the frontpage of the +project ( As said, I personally wouldn't care, but I guess that's not a +universal view ). + +The rest will then come by itself after that. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000203.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000205.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#204">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#204">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#204">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#204">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000205.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000205.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fead2c85a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000205.html @@ -0,0 +1,128 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20planet.mageia.org%20-%20info/discuss%20about%20the%0A%09installation&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinR0rxaQ1NrAg00zEux_DhDqRu7ASSLQNZwba8B%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000204.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000206.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20planet.mageia.org%20-%20info/discuss%20about%20the%0A%09installation&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinR0rxaQ1NrAg00zEux_DhDqRu7ASSLQNZwba8B%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 31 18:36:25 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000204.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000206.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#205">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#205">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#205">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#205">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 18:19, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +><i> Le lundi 31 janvier 2011 à 16:50 +0100, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +</I>><i> No, I do not say that using a tag is not good on a technical level. I +</I>><i> say that the definition should be IMHO clearer than "using a tag". Ie, +</I>><i> what do we expect on the tag. +</I> +For RSS 2.0/Atom feeds (required), the item (so the blog post) must +have a "mageia" category at least (case insensitive). + +><i> Well, to me, this look like the job of communication more than +</I>><i> marketing, but maybe I mistake the purpose of the marketing team. +</I> +Both teams are merged into one for the time being; so tasks/purposes +are interleaved for the time being. Should it grow, we'll see. + +>><i> The board always has a final say, that's a given. But that should +</I>>><i> still be exceptional and repeating it over and over won't entrust +</I>>><i> teams on themselves. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If we entrust the marketing team to do conflict management and editorial +</I>><i> control, it should be clearly said. +</I> +It has been said from the first day that, for the sake of subsidiarity +and relevance, each team has a say on its own matters. That's what +trust and delegation is about: we expect teams to self-manage and +manage their work well. + +Planet is a communication matter, it is handled by the communication +team (here, marcom as it is interleaved). All the rest (webteam, +sysadmin) in this regard has only a provider role. + +Now, as has been said too, should a team-level decision raise issues +on its own, it escalates to Council, then to Board, if necessary. +Nothing new. + +><i> Now, if I wanted to do it, I would still aim for having the minimal +</I>><i> requirement of maintainability. People ( as long they have a email +</I>><i> alias, ie are peers ) decide what they blog, how they blog, etc. Some +</I>><i> kind of wiki way applied to feed aggregations. I would even push to +</I>><i> delegate the feeds in ldap so people can change themselves without +</I>><i> anyone intervention. +</I> +Patch CatDap for that, then. Maybe. But it looks more complex than it +should be for the time being. Later maybe. + +><i> First, I would try to clearly articulate the goal of the website. Having +</I>><i> "a regular stream of news about Mageia" is not the same as "discovering +</I>><i> the life of contributors". For example, the aforementioned chocolate +</I>><i> cake pictures is likely not ok if the goal is to speak only of Mageia. +</I> +You're mixing several things. The "website" as such has several roles; +the planet is one tiny role among others in the "self-recognition & +promotion of contributors thoughts" part. + +><i> This allows to know if we want someone see the word fuck or not. +</I> +I don't care about setting rules for that - that's the comm'team job +and I believe that for the beginning, this can be left to authors' +common sense. And we will see how it evolves. Saying that it should +first relate to Mageia is enough. Comm'team will be free and welcome +to chart it otherwise (now or later). + +><i> We may not want to have strong political comments on the frontpage of the +</I>><i> project ( As said, I personally wouldn't care, but I guess that's not a +</I>><i> universal view ). +</I> +The planet won't be on the frontpage (where only official news of the +project will be, speaking of news feeds), it's a separate page, on its +own first, of which posts may be syndicated somewhere in a "news" or +"community" area in the website. + +Romain +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000204.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000206.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#205">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#205">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#205">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#205">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000206.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000206.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b03a7ca3b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000206.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20planet.mageia.org%20-%20info/discuss%20about%20the%0A%20installation&In-Reply-To=%3C1296497404.12892.115.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000205.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000208.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20planet.mageia.org%20-%20info/discuss%20about%20the%0A%20installation&In-Reply-To=%3C1296497404.12892.115.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 31 19:10:04 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000205.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000208.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#206">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#206">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#206">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#206">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le lundi 31 janvier 2011 à 18:36 +0100, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +><i> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 18:19, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > First, I would try to clearly articulate the goal of the website. Having +</I>><i> > "a regular stream of news about Mageia" is not the same as "discovering +</I>><i> > the life of contributors". For example, the aforementioned chocolate +</I>><i> > cake pictures is likely not ok if the goal is to speak only of Mageia. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You're mixing several things. The "website" as such has several roles; +</I>><i> the planet is one tiny role among others in the "self-recognition & +</I>><i> promotion of contributors thoughts" part. +</I> +Just to be clear, when I said "the website", I spoke of +planet.mageia.org as a website. Not of www.mageia.org ( who serve on +more than regular stream of news ) or the whole web plateform ( who also +serve as more than that ). + +So I do not understand what others roles you are speaking of if you +speak of planet.mageia.org, or what do you mean for "website" if this is +not planet.mageia.org + +Am I right to assume you speak of the whole web plateform ? +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000205.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000208.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#206">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#206">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#206">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#206">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000207.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000207.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..01cdb41c6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000207.html @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] Speaking of calendar + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Speaking%20of%20calendar&In-Reply-To=%3C1296498831.12892.119.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000202.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Speaking of calendar</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20Speaking%20of%20calendar&In-Reply-To=%3C1296498831.12892.119.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Speaking of calendar">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 31 19:33:51 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000202.html">[Mageia-webteam] Join +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#207">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#207">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#207">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#207">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi, + +I just received this my mail : +<A HREF="http://code.grical.org/wiki">http://code.grical.org/wiki</A> + +There is a list of calendars at the end of the page, and a list of web +site ( can be useful to push our events there ). And the software may +also be useful. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000202.html">[Mageia-webteam] Join +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#207">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#207">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#207">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#207">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000208.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000208.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e02fb9f2b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000208.html @@ -0,0 +1,62 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20planet.mageia.org%20-%20info/discuss%20about%20the%0A%09installation&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinuxKXBtbueDbVF_QbOyTi8FJkVEpZ63A%2B9TZi9%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000206.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000192.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-webteam%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-webteam%5D%20planet.mageia.org%20-%20info/discuss%20about%20the%0A%09installation&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinuxKXBtbueDbVF_QbOyTi8FJkVEpZ63A%2B9TZi9%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 31 20:45:59 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000206.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000192.html">[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#208">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#208">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#208">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#208">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 19:10, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +><i> Am I right to assume you speak of the whole web plateform ? +</I> +Yes, sorry. I don't understand the planet as a website on its own. A +page/summary/snippet, at most. :-p + +Romain +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000206.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000192.html">[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#208">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#208">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#208">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#208">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2a9b35ef4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,677 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC 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NAME="141"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000161.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 3 meeting +</A><A NAME="161"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000164.html">[Mageia-webteam] Meeting today +</A><A NAME="164"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000165.html">[Mageia-webteam] Calendars - maint db +</A><A NAME="165"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000166.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 3 meeting +</A><A NAME="166"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000179.html">[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions +</A><A NAME="179"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000185.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting +</A><A NAME="185"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000187.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting +</A><A NAME="187"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000198.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A><A NAME="198"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000203.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A><A NAME="203"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000205.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A><A NAME="205"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000208.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A><A NAME="208"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000157.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="157"> </A> +<I>Michael scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000144.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="144"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000182.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A><A NAME="182"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000196.html">[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services +</A><A NAME="196"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Mon Jan 31 20:45:59 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jan 31 20:46:07 CET 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/date.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/date.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5b5703a81 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/date.html @@ -0,0 +1,677 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-webteam January 2011 Archive by date</title> + <META NAME="robots" 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+</A><A NAME="85"> </A> +<I>Samuel Verschelde +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting +</A><A NAME="86"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000087.html">[Mageia-webteam] Donation pages update & redirection +</A><A NAME="87"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting +</A><A NAME="88"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000089.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting +</A><A NAME="89"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000090.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam Meeting, Dec 01 2010 +</A><A NAME="90"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000091.html">[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update +</A><A NAME="91"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000092.html">[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update +</A><A NAME="92"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000093.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="93"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000094.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="94"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000095.html">[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update +</A><A NAME="95"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000096.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="96"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000097.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="97"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000098.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="98"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000099.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="99"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000101.html">[Mageia-webteam] Calendar on the website +</A><A NAME="101"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000100.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="100"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000102.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="102"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000103.html">[Mageia-webteam] Gitorious - LDAP installation-integration Feasibilty +</A><A NAME="103"> </A> +<I>Kosmas Chatzimichalis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000104.html">[Mageia-webteam] Calendar on the website +</A><A NAME="104"> </A> +<I>Kosmas Chatzimichalis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000105.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="105"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000106.html">[Mageia-webteam] Calendar on the website +</A><A NAME="106"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000107.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A><A NAME="107"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000108.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A><A NAME="108"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000109.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A><A NAME="109"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000110.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A><A NAME="110"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000111.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A><A NAME="111"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000112.html">[Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence +</A><A NAME="112"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000113.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A><A NAME="113"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000114.html">[Mageia-webteam] license at the bottom of temporary wiki +</A><A NAME="114"> </A> +<I>Benoit Audouard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000115.html">[Mageia-webteam] Comments about identity-trunk +</A><A NAME="115"> </A> +<I>Ludovic Bellière +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000116.html">[Mageia-webteam] Wiki setup +</A><A NAME="116"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000117.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A><A NAME="117"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000118.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A><A NAME="118"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000119.html">[Mageia-webteam] license at the bottom of temporary wiki +</A><A NAME="119"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000120.html">[Mageia-webteam] Comments about identity-trunk +</A><A NAME="120"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000121.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A><A NAME="121"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000122.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A><A NAME="122"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000123.html">[Mageia-webteam] Gitorious - LDAP installation-integration Feasibilty +</A><A NAME="123"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000124.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A><A NAME="124"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000125.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A><A NAME="125"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000126.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A><A NAME="126"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000127.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A><A NAME="127"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000128.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A><A NAME="128"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000129.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A><A NAME="129"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000130.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A><A NAME="130"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000131.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A><A NAME="131"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000132.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="132"> </A> +<I>Kosmas Chatzimichalis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000133.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="133"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000134.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="134"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000135.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="135"> </A> +<I>Kosmas Chatzimichalis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000136.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="136"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000137.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="137"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000138.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="138"> </A> +<I>Kosmas Chatzimichalis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000139.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="139"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000140.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="140"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000141.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="141"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000142.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="142"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000143.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="143"> </A> +<I>Dubeau, Patrick +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000144.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="144"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000145.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="145"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000146.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="146"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000150.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="150"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000147.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="147"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000148.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="148"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000149.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="149"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000151.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="151"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000152.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="152"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000153.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="153"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000154.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="154"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000155.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="155"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000156.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="156"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000157.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="157"> </A> +<I>Michael scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000158.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="158"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000159.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="159"> </A> +<I>Dubeau, Patrick +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000160.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="160"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000161.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 3 meeting +</A><A NAME="161"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000162.html">[Mageia-webteam] Calendars - maint db +</A><A NAME="162"> </A> +<I>Kosmas Chatzimichalis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000163.html">[Mageia-webteam] Meeting today +</A><A NAME="163"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000164.html">[Mageia-webteam] Meeting today +</A><A NAME="164"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000165.html">[Mageia-webteam] Calendars - maint db +</A><A NAME="165"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000166.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 3 meeting +</A><A NAME="166"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000167.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="167"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000168.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A><A NAME="168"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000169.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A><A NAME="169"> </A> +<I>Kosmas Chatzimichalis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000170.html">[Mageia-webteam] Viewvc installation +</A><A NAME="170"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000171.html">[Mageia-webteam] Current bugzilla status +</A><A NAME="171"> </A> +<I>Dexter Morgan +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-webteam] Viewvc installation +</A><A NAME="172"> </A> +<I>Benoit Audouard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000173.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A><A NAME="173"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000174.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A><A NAME="174"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000175.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A><A NAME="175"> </A> +<I>Kosmas Chatzimichalis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000176.html">[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions +</A><A NAME="176"> </A> +<I>Kosmas Chatzimichalis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000177.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A><A NAME="177"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000178.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A><A NAME="178"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000179.html">[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions +</A><A NAME="179"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000180.html">[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions +</A><A NAME="180"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000181.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A><A NAME="181"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000182.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A><A NAME="182"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000183.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A><A NAME="183"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000190.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A><A NAME="190"> </A> +<I>Pascal Terjan +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000184.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A><A NAME="184"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000185.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting +</A><A NAME="185"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000186.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting +</A><A NAME="186"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000187.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting +</A><A NAME="187"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000188.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A><A NAME="188"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000189.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A><A NAME="189"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000191.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A><A NAME="191"> </A> +<I>Damien Lallement +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000192.html">[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services +</A><A NAME="192"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000193.html">[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services +</A><A NAME="193"> </A> +<I>Damien Lallement +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000194.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A><A NAME="194"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000195.html">[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services +</A><A NAME="195"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000196.html">[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services +</A><A NAME="196"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000197.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A><A NAME="197"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000198.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A><A NAME="198"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000199.html">[Mageia-webteam] Join +</A><A NAME="199"> </A> +<I>Romulo Pires +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000200.html">[Mageia-webteam] Join +</A><A NAME="200"> </A> +<I>Cazzaniga Sandro +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000201.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A><A NAME="201"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000202.html">[Mageia-webteam] Join +</A><A NAME="202"> </A> +<I>Romulo Pires +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000203.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A><A NAME="203"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000204.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A><A NAME="204"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000205.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A><A NAME="205"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000206.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A><A NAME="206"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000207.html">[Mageia-webteam] Speaking of calendar +</A><A NAME="207"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000208.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A><A NAME="208"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Mon Jan 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<b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Jan 31 20:45:59 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 126<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting +</A><A NAME="86"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting +</A><A NAME="88"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000089.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting +</A><A NAME="89"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000161.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 3 meeting +</A><A NAME="161"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000166.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 3 meeting +</A><A NAME="166"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000185.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting +</A><A NAME="185"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000186.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting +</A><A NAME="186"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000187.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011/week 4 meeting +</A><A NAME="187"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000152.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="152"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000154.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="154"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000157.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="157"> </A> +<I>Michael scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000158.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="158"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000160.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="160"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000178.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A><A NAME="178"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000167.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="167"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000144.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="144"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000145.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="145"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000150.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="150"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000147.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="147"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000149.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="149"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000151.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="151"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000155.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="155"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000168.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A><A NAME="168"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000169.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A><A NAME="169"> </A> +<I>Kosmas Chatzimichalis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000173.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A><A NAME="173"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000174.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A><A NAME="174"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000175.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A><A NAME="175"> </A> +<I>Kosmas Chatzimichalis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000177.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] New test tree in ldap +</A><A NAME="177"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000181.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A><A NAME="181"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000182.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A><A NAME="182"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000183.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A><A NAME="183"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000190.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A><A NAME="190"> </A> +<I>Pascal Terjan +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000184.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A><A NAME="184"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000188.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A><A NAME="188"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000189.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Viewvc installation +</A><A NAME="189"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000117.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A><A NAME="117"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000118.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A><A NAME="118"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000121.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A><A NAME="121"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000122.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A><A NAME="122"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000101.html">[Mageia-webteam] Calendar on the website +</A><A NAME="101"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000104.html">[Mageia-webteam] Calendar on the website +</A><A NAME="104"> </A> +<I>Kosmas Chatzimichalis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000106.html">[Mageia-webteam] Calendar on the website +</A><A NAME="106"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000162.html">[Mageia-webteam] Calendars - maint db +</A><A NAME="162"> </A> +<I>Kosmas Chatzimichalis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000165.html">[Mageia-webteam] Calendars - maint db +</A><A NAME="165"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000107.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A><A NAME="107"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000108.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A><A NAME="108"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000109.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A><A NAME="109"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000110.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A><A NAME="110"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000111.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A><A NAME="111"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000113.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A><A NAME="113"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000091.html">[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update +</A><A NAME="91"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000092.html">[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update +</A><A NAME="92"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000095.html">[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update +</A><A NAME="95"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000115.html">[Mageia-webteam] Comments about identity-trunk +</A><A NAME="115"> </A> +<I>Ludovic Bellière +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000120.html">[Mageia-webteam] Comments about identity-trunk +</A><A NAME="120"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000171.html">[Mageia-webteam] Current bugzilla status +</A><A NAME="171"> </A> +<I>Dexter Morgan +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-webteam] Designing mageia-app-db's homepage +</A><A NAME="85"> </A> +<I>Samuel Verschelde +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000087.html">[Mageia-webteam] Donation pages update & redirection +</A><A NAME="87"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000142.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="142"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000143.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="143"> </A> +<I>Dubeau, Patrick +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000148.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="148"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000153.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="153"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000156.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="156"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000159.html">[Mageia-webteam] Forum VM needs +</A><A NAME="159"> </A> +<I>Dubeau, Patrick +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000103.html">[Mageia-webteam] Gitorious - LDAP installation-integration Feasibilty +</A><A NAME="103"> </A> +<I>Kosmas Chatzimichalis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000123.html">[Mageia-webteam] Gitorious - LDAP installation-integration Feasibilty +</A><A NAME="123"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000132.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="132"> </A> +<I>Kosmas Chatzimichalis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000133.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="133"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000134.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="134"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000135.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="135"> </A> +<I>Kosmas Chatzimichalis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000136.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="136"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000137.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="137"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000138.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="138"> </A> +<I>Kosmas Chatzimichalis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000139.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="139"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000140.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="140"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000141.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="141"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000146.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="146"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000199.html">[Mageia-webteam] Join +</A><A NAME="199"> </A> +<I>Romulo Pires +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000200.html">[Mageia-webteam] Join +</A><A NAME="200"> </A> +<I>Cazzaniga Sandro +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000202.html">[Mageia-webteam] Join +</A><A NAME="202"> </A> +<I>Romulo Pires +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000114.html">[Mageia-webteam] license at the bottom of temporary wiki +</A><A NAME="114"> </A> +<I>Benoit Audouard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000119.html">[Mageia-webteam] license at the bottom of temporary wiki +</A><A NAME="119"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000124.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A><A NAME="124"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000125.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A><A NAME="125"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000126.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A><A NAME="126"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000127.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A><A NAME="127"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000128.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A><A NAME="128"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000129.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A><A NAME="129"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000130.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A><A NAME="130"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000131.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A><A NAME="131"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000176.html">[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions +</A><A NAME="176"> </A> +<I>Kosmas Chatzimichalis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000179.html">[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions +</A><A NAME="179"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000180.html">[Mageia-webteam] Maintainers db app questions +</A><A NAME="180"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000163.html">[Mageia-webteam] Meeting today +</A><A NAME="163"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000164.html">[Mageia-webteam] Meeting today +</A><A NAME="164"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000083.html">[Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence +</A><A NAME="83"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence +</A><A NAME="84"> </A> +<I>Samuel Verschelde +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000112.html">[Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence +</A><A NAME="112"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000191.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A><A NAME="191"> </A> +<I>Damien Lallement +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000194.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A><A NAME="194"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000198.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A><A NAME="198"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000203.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A><A NAME="203"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000205.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A><A NAME="205"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000208.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A><A NAME="208"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000197.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A><A NAME="197"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000201.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A><A NAME="201"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000204.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A><A NAME="204"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000206.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A><A NAME="206"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000207.html">[Mageia-webteam] Speaking of calendar +</A><A NAME="207"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000192.html">[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services +</A><A NAME="192"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000193.html">[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services +</A><A NAME="193"> </A> +<I>Damien Lallement +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000195.html">[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services +</A><A NAME="195"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000196.html">[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services +</A><A NAME="196"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000170.html">[Mageia-webteam] Viewvc installation +</A><A NAME="170"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-webteam] Viewvc installation +</A><A NAME="172"> </A> +<I>Benoit Audouard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000090.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam Meeting, Dec 01 2010 +</A><A NAME="90"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000093.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="93"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000094.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="94"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000096.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="96"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000097.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="97"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000098.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="98"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000099.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="99"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000100.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="100"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000102.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="102"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000105.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="105"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000116.html">[Mageia-webteam] Wiki setup +</A><A NAME="116"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Mon Jan 31 20:45:59 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jan 31 20:46:07 CET 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/thread.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/thread.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a4e1daa06 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-webteam/2011-January/thread.html @@ -0,0 +1,909 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-webteam January 2011 Archive by thread</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>January 2011 Archives by thread</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Jan 1 16:40:16 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Jan 31 20:45:59 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 126<p> + <ul> + +<!--0 01293896416- --> +<LI><A HREF="000083.html">[Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence +</A><A NAME="83"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01293896416-01293970020- --> +<LI><A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence +</A><A NAME="84"> </A> +<I>Samuel Verschelde +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01293970374- --> +<LI><A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-webteam] Designing mageia-app-db's homepage +</A><A NAME="85"> </A> +<I>Samuel Verschelde +</I> + +<!--0 01294049858- --> +<LI><A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting +</A><A NAME="86"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01294049858-01294226752- --> +<LI><A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting +</A><A NAME="88"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01294049858-01294226752-01294241218- --> +<LI><A HREF="000089.html">[Mageia-webteam] 2011 first meeting +</A><A NAME="89"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01294084859- --> +<LI><A HREF="000087.html">[Mageia-webteam] Donation pages update & redirection +</A><A NAME="87"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<!--0 01294247518- --> +<LI><A HREF="000090.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam Meeting, Dec 01 2010 +</A><A NAME="90"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<!--0 01294268871- --> +<LI><A HREF="000091.html">[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update +</A><A NAME="91"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01294268871-01294303503- --> +<LI><A HREF="000092.html">[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update +</A><A NAME="92"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01294268871-01294303503-01294318127- --> +<LI><A HREF="000095.html">[Mageia-webteam] Catdap trunk instance, and update +</A><A NAME="95"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01294312191- --> +<LI><A HREF="000093.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="93"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01294312191-01294316373- --> +<LI><A HREF="000094.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="94"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01294312191-01294316373-01294320425- --> +<LI><A HREF="000096.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="96"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01294312191-01294316373-01294320425-01294323945- --> +<LI><A HREF="000097.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="97"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<!--3 01294312191-01294316373-01294320425-01294323945-01294332298- --> +<LI><A HREF="000099.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="99"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<!--3 01294312191-01294316373-01294320425-01294323945-01294332298-01294334600- --> +<LI><A HREF="000102.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="102"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<!--3 01294312191-01294316373-01294320425-01294323945-01294332298-01294334600-01294337207- --> +<LI><A HREF="000105.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="105"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<!--3 01294312191-01294316373-01294320425-01294325052- --> +<LI><A HREF="000098.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="98"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--3 01294312191-01294316373-01294320425-01294325052-01294333500- --> +<LI><A HREF="000100.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A><A NAME="100"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01294333343- --> +<LI><A HREF="000101.html">[Mageia-webteam] Calendar on the website +</A><A NAME="101"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01294333343-01294336791- --> +<LI><A HREF="000104.html">[Mageia-webteam] Calendar on the website +</A><A NAME="104"> </A> +<I>Kosmas Chatzimichalis +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01294333343-01294336791-01294337343- --> +<LI><A HREF="000106.html">[Mageia-webteam] Calendar on the website +</A><A NAME="106"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01294336124- --> +<LI><A HREF="000103.html">[Mageia-webteam] Gitorious - LDAP installation-integration Feasibilty +</A><A NAME="103"> </A> +<I>Kosmas Chatzimichalis +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01294336124-01294662328- --> +<LI><A HREF="000123.html">[Mageia-webteam] Gitorious - LDAP installation-integration Feasibilty +</A><A NAME="123"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01294346382- --> +<LI><A HREF="000107.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A><A NAME="107"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01294346382-01294364717- --> +<LI><A HREF="000108.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A><A NAME="108"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01294346382-01294364717-01294366003- --> +<LI><A HREF="000109.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A><A NAME="109"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01294346382-01294364717-01294366003-01294367770- --> +<LI><A HREF="000110.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A><A NAME="110"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--3 01294346382-01294364717-01294366003-01294367770-01294421255- --> +<LI><A HREF="000111.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A><A NAME="111"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<!--3 01294346382-01294364717-01294366003-01294421720- --> +<LI><A HREF="000113.html">[Mageia-webteam] catdap deployment +</A><A NAME="113"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01294421541- --> +<LI><A HREF="000112.html">[Mageia-webteam] Need help for mageia-app-db's licence +</A><A NAME="112"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<!--0 01294533625- --> +<LI><A HREF="000114.html">[Mageia-webteam] license at the bottom of temporary wiki +</A><A NAME="114"> </A> +<I>Benoit Audouard +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01294533625-01294610074- --> +<LI><A HREF="000119.html">[Mageia-webteam] license at the bottom of temporary wiki +</A><A NAME="119"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01294579374- --> +<LI><A HREF="000115.html">[Mageia-webteam] Comments about identity-trunk +</A><A NAME="115"> </A> +<I>Ludovic Bellière +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01294579374-01294613153- --> +<LI><A HREF="000120.html">[Mageia-webteam] Comments about identity-trunk +</A><A NAME="120"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01294582535- --> +<LI><A HREF="000116.html">[Mageia-webteam] Wiki setup +</A><A NAME="116"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<!--0 01294592652- --> +<LI><A HREF="000117.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A><A NAME="117"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01294592652-01294605158- --> +<LI><A HREF="000118.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A><A NAME="118"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01294592652-01294605158-01294614254- --> +<LI><A HREF="000121.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A><A NAME="121"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01294618023- --> +<LI><A HREF="000122.html">[Mageia-webteam] [Mageia-sysadm] Wiki setup +</A><A NAME="122"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--0 01294665724- --> +<LI><A HREF="000124.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A><A NAME="124"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01294665724-01294667557- --> +<LI><A HREF="000125.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A><A NAME="125"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01294665724-01294667557-01294669343- --> +<LI><A HREF="000126.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A><A NAME="126"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01294665724-01294667557-01294669343-01294671345- --> +<LI><A HREF="000128.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A><A NAME="128"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--1 01294665724-01294670038- --> +<LI><A HREF="000127.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A><A NAME="127"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01294665724-01294670038-01294671509- --> +<LI><A HREF="000129.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A><A NAME="129"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01294665724-01294670038-01294671509-01294672385- --> +<LI><A HREF="000131.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A><A NAME="131"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +</UL> +<!--2 01294665724-01294670038-01294672336- --> +<LI><A HREF="000130.html">[Mageia-webteam] Mailling lists for web team +</A><A NAME="130"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01294787278- --> +<LI><A HREF="000132.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="132"> </A> +<I>Kosmas Chatzimichalis +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01294787278-01294796195- --> +<LI><A HREF="000133.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="133"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01294787278-01294796195-01294825015- --> +<LI><A HREF="000134.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="134"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01294787278-01294796195-01294825015-01294827015- --> +<LI><A HREF="000135.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="135"> </A> +<I>Kosmas Chatzimichalis +</I> + +<!--3 01294787278-01294796195-01294825015-01294827015-01294827730- --> +<LI><A HREF="000136.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="136"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<!--3 01294787278-01294796195-01294825015-01294827015-01294827730-01294829551- --> +<LI><A HREF="000137.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="137"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--3 01294787278-01294796195-01294825015-01294827015-01294827730-01294829551-01294830295- --> +<LI><A HREF="000138.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A><A NAME="138"> </A> +<I>Kosmas Chatzimichalis +</I> + +<!--3 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+</A><A NAME="193"> </A> +<I>Damien Lallement +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01296228240-01296228642-01296304999- --> +<LI><A HREF="000195.html">[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services +</A><A NAME="195"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01296228240-01296228642-01296304999-01296317579- --> +<LI><A HREF="000196.html">[Mageia-webteam] Starting to clean the mess of web services +</A><A NAME="196"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01296473216- --> +<LI><A HREF="000199.html">[Mageia-webteam] Join +</A><A NAME="199"> </A> +<I>Romulo Pires +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01296473216-01296473257- --> +<LI><A HREF="000200.html">[Mageia-webteam] Join +</A><A NAME="200"> </A> +<I>Cazzaniga Sandro +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01296473216-01296473257-01296473921- --> +<LI><A HREF="000202.html">[Mageia-webteam] Join +</A><A NAME="202"> </A> +<I>Romulo Pires +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01296498831- --> +<LI><A HREF="000207.html">[Mageia-webteam] Speaking of calendar +</A><A NAME="207"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Mon Jan 31 20:45:59 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jan 31 20:46:07 CET 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + |