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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20meetbot%20migration%20to%20the%20gandibox&In-Reply-To=%3C1285896422.5530.287.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] meetbot migration to the gandibox">misc at zarb.org
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+ <I>Fri Oct 1 03:27:02 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+I have migrated the meetbot instance to the gandibox server, with a
+plugin backported from 2010.1. A new user was created for this, the bot
+have been copied, and some basic documentation can be found in
+~irc_bots/documentation/
+
+I have also removed Backport and Testing sources, as well as debug and
+Non-free, installed apache-mpm-prefork, fixed /etc/hosts so apache could
+start ( and notified a gandi coder of the problem ), added a cname
+meetbot.mageia.org to the server, with corresponding vhost and settings,
+and set up a autostart based on cron (with @reboot syntax ).
+
+I have also installed screen, zsh and bash-completion.
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20servers%20configuration%20tool&In-Reply-To=%3C20101001102936.GR21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] servers configuration tool">boklm at mars-attacks.org
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+ <I>Fri Oct 1 12:29:36 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+On Mandriva build system we were using cfengine. I think cfengine is
+quite simple, works correctly, and some of us already know how to use
+it. But other people are also using puppet. Do you have opinions about
+what we should use for Mageia servers ?
+
+Nicolas
+
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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 01 octobre 2010 &#224; 12:29 +0200, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Mandriva build system we were using cfengine. I think cfengine is
+</I>&gt;<i> quite simple, works correctly, and some of us already know how to use
+</I>&gt;<i> it.
+</I>
+what version of cfengine ? because there is cfengine 2, not maintained
+AFAIK, and cfengine 3, that none of us know.
+
+&gt;<i> But other people are also using puppet. Do you have opinions about
+</I>&gt;<i> what we should use for Mageia servers ?
+</I>
+Having to use cfengine 2 on zarb and mdv, and puppet on my own server, I
+would say I prefer puppet.
+
+Puppet community seems more alive, and favors a modular approach. I also
+think it is easier to extend and understand ( both use a dsl, but I
+found it as easier to understand puppet dsl than cfengine one ).
+
+Guillomovitch proposed we switch to puppet, but I do not exactly know
+the reason.
+
+On the other hand, we already have part of the configuration from mdv in
+cfengine, which is a important point too.
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
+</PRE>
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+
+This is the current list of people in the sysadmin team :
+- boklm
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+- rapsys
+- misc
+- sevalienor
+- coling
+- neoclust
+- TMB
+
+As misc suggested, we can present ourself on this mailing list. So you
+can answer to this thread to present you.
+
+Nicolas
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and nicolas vigier at 06/10/10 15:02 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> This is the current list of people in the sysadmin team :
+</I>&gt;<i> - boklm
+</I>&gt;<i> - damsweb
+</I>&gt;<i> - rapsys
+</I>&gt;<i> - misc
+</I>&gt;<i> - sevalienor
+</I>&gt;<i> - coling
+</I>&gt;<i> - neoclust
+</I>&gt;<i> - TMB
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As misc suggested, we can present ourself on this mailing list. So you
+</I>&gt;<i> can answer to this thread to present you.
+</I>
+Hello!
+
+I'm Colin. I'm sure most of you know me from before so I'll forego the
+full introduction!
+
+In terms of sysadmin, I tend to be fairly available (not all the time
+obviously, but I'm usually not too far away) and thus can help out when
+dealing when things go wrong at awkward times etc.
+
+In terms of skills related to sysadmin work, I maintain two web hosting
+infrastructures based on RHEL and CentOS and look after our (modest)
+office infrastructure (mostly based on Mandriva 2010.1 + OSX - no windows!).
+
+I've experience with MySQL, Apache, Bind, DHCP, LDAP, Subversion, Git
+and SSH + all the usual things.
+
+I tend to overcomplicate my home network &quot;for fun&quot; to try and expand my
+experience in that area.
+
+I think that will do as a introduction to me :D
+
+
+Cheers
+
+Col
+
+
+PS Can the reply-to for this list be set to the list address please?
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>]
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>]
+ PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>]
+ Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>]
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 06 octobre 2010 &#224; 16:02 +0200, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is the current list of people in the sysadmin team :
+</I>&gt;<i> - boklm
+</I>&gt;<i> - damsweb
+</I>&gt;<i> - rapsys
+</I>&gt;<i> - misc
+</I>&gt;<i> - sevalienor
+</I>&gt;<i> - coling
+</I>&gt;<i> - neoclust
+</I>&gt;<i> - TMB
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As misc suggested, we can present ourself on this mailing list. So you
+</I>&gt;<i> can answer to this thread to present you.
+</I>
+
+
+Ok, so for those that do not know me ( ie, nobody, since I have met in
+person every one on the list ), my name is Michael Scherer, I am living
+most of the time in Paris suburb with Olivier Thauvin ( nanar ).
+
+I have been involved in Mandriva since a long time, first as a packager,
+then as a trainee, then again as a packager and a sysadmin of the
+cluster. I am also a admin of zarb.org servers, and involved in various
+free software activity. I have no job at the moment, but this may change
+in the end of the week.
+
+I have been working as sysadmin for Council of Europe for 3 months, and
+as a python coder for 1 year and half for INL and the CNRS ( french
+research institute ).
+
+Regarding my technical skills, I can code in perl, ruby, little bit of
+C, ruby, and php among others.
+
+As a sysadmin and like colin, I also know the usual stuff : apache,
+postfix, nagios, munin, openldap, netfilter, etc. I have been quite
+interested in puppet recently, having converted my own servers to it,
+and I try also to expand my knowledge by using uncommon software for fun
+( like powerdns, nginx, quagga ( yeah, there is a ospf router in the
+home network )).
+
+And I have the super power of firewall piercing :)
+
+I am often available by night and in the afternoon ( Paris time ), but I
+am also often out of the town.
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 06 octobre 2010 &#224; 15:52 +0100, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+
+&gt;<i> PS Can the reply-to for this list be set to the list address please?
+</I>
+Done
+
+FYI, I am in favor of changing from mailman to sympa ( because mailman
+default are annoying, and because sympa can get users from ldap, which
+seems to be a big win in the long run ).
+
+And I would also like to make this list public ( albeit with restricted
+posting for us ). Public because :
+- we want to promote openess
+- we can refer to our discussions to others groups this way
+- people who will join the team later will be able to see how we work
+before joining
+- people will ( I hope ) not ask us news when they can have the same
+level of access than us to the information
+- we can use a external search engine to find our discussions
+- we will not appear like cabal
+- and others sysadmins groups ( for other projects ) could get
+information from us, which could help them to setup their own projects
+
+I see however some downsides :
+- we cannot discuss confidential or private matters ( like people real
+name, security incident if there is a embargo )
+- we should take care of not telling too much about us ( example : &quot;i am
+gone in holiday for 3 weeks, come and rob my house&quot; )
+
+WDYT ?
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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+<PRE>On Wed, 06 Oct 2010, Michael Scherer wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Le mercredi 06 octobre 2010 &#224; 15:52 +0100, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; PS Can the reply-to for this list be set to the list address please?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Done
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> FYI, I am in favor of changing from mailman to sympa ( because mailman
+</I>&gt;<i> default are annoying, and because sympa can get users from ldap, which
+</I>&gt;<i> seems to be a big win in the long run ).
+</I>
+Yes. I agree.
+
+&gt;<i> And I would also like to make this list public ( albeit with restricted
+</I>&gt;<i> posting for us ). Public because :
+</I>&gt;<i> - we want to promote openess
+</I>&gt;<i> - we can refer to our discussions to others groups this way
+</I>&gt;<i> - people who will join the team later will be able to see how we work
+</I>&gt;<i> before joining
+</I>&gt;<i> - people will ( I hope ) not ask us news when they can have the same
+</I>&gt;<i> level of access than us to the information
+</I>&gt;<i> - we can use a external search engine to find our discussions
+</I>&gt;<i> - we will not appear like cabal
+</I>&gt;<i> - and others sysadmins groups ( for other projects ) could get
+</I>&gt;<i> information from us, which could help them to setup their own projects
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I see however some downsides :
+</I>&gt;<i> - we cannot discuss confidential or private matters ( like people real
+</I>&gt;<i> name, security incident if there is a embargo )
+</I>&gt;<i> - we should take care of not telling too much about us ( example : &quot;i am
+</I>&gt;<i> gone in holiday for 3 weeks, come and rob my house&quot; )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> WDYT ?
+</I>
+I agree that most discussions should be public. Maybe we could have a
+second mailing list for public discussions. And keep this one private,
+to receive crontab emails (if they can potentially contain confidential
+infos), and other private emails ?
+
+Nicolas
+
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 07 octobre 2010 &#224; 14:22 +0200, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; And I would also like to make this list public ( albeit with restricted
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; posting for us ). Public because :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - we want to promote openess
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - we can refer to our discussions to others groups this way
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - people who will join the team later will be able to see how we work
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; before joining
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - people will ( I hope ) not ask us news when they can have the same
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; level of access than us to the information
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - we can use a external search engine to find our discussions
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - we will not appear like cabal
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - and others sysadmins groups ( for other projects ) could get
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; information from us, which could help them to setup their own projects
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I see however some downsides :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - we cannot discuss confidential or private matters ( like people real
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; name, security incident if there is a embargo )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - we should take care of not telling too much about us ( example : &quot;i am
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; gone in holiday for 3 weeks, come and rob my house&quot; )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; WDYT ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree that most discussions should be public. Maybe we could have a
+</I>&gt;<i> second mailing list for public discussions. And keep this one private,
+</I>&gt;<i> to receive crontab emails (if they can potentially contain confidential
+</I>&gt;<i> infos), and other private emails ?
+</I>
+Well, if crontab emails contained informations, even non confidential,
+it would be a good start :)
+
+I would prefer to have a -private list, so people know that private is a
+exception rather then the norm.
+
+
+( and boklm, we didn't have your mail for the presentation )
+( and for the others too )
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As misc suggested, we can present ourself on this mailing list. So you
+</I>&gt;<i> can answer to this thread to present you.
+</I>
+Ok. Pr&#233;sentation for me :
+I was previously working at Mandriva (actually Edge-IT) since January
+2007. I was working mainly on R&amp;D projects (XtreemOS, qualipso, etc
+...), and also as admin of the build system.
+
+I know how to admin the usual software like postfix, apache, bind, svn,
+etc ...
+
+And I am living in Paris, so I can probably have access to Vitry
+datacenter where we will be hosting most Mageia servers.
+
+Nicolas
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+&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I agree that most discussions should be public. Maybe we could have a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; second mailing list for public discussions. And keep this one private,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to receive crontab emails (if they can potentially contain confidential
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; infos), and other private emails ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, if crontab emails contained informations, even non confidential,
+</I>&gt;<i> it would be a good start :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would prefer to have a -private list, so people know that private is a
+</I>&gt;<i> exception rather then the norm.
+</I>
+Ok, yes, it's more clear with private in the name.
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is the current list of people in the sysadmin team :
+</I>
+&gt;<i> - TMB
+</I>
+&gt;<i> As misc suggested, we can present ourself on this mailing list. So you
+</I>&gt;<i> can answer to this thread to present you.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+So,
+I am Thomas Backlund, and have been using Redhat until about 2001, and
+switched to Mandr* Linux and been a user/sysadmin since that.
+
+I mostly do kernels, and my first &quot;help&quot; with main kernels was IIRC
+around 2.4.21-0.pre4.3mdk, and my first tmb series kernels rolled out:
+* Thu Aug 28 2003 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">tmb at iki.fi</A>&gt; 2.4.22-1.tmb.1mdk
+:<i>)
+</I>
+I maintain some linux servers both at home, work and for some external
+companys..
+
+I know may way around LAMP, DNS/DHCP, ssh, postfix, some LDAP, VCS, ...
+
+I usually monitor my e-mail almost constantly when I'm awake,
+and most of the times I have good internet connections, so remote access
+isn't a problem...
+And weekends I'm usually up very late (sometimes until the morning and
+the neighbours wake up :)...)
+
+At work I'm primary Manager/Responsible for Linux, Firewalls and a
+2008R2 AD network with Windows and Mac OSX workstations...
+I also am responsible for Exchange and mail flow/spam filtering...
+
+I'm always interested in new things, both on hw and sw side :)
+
+I'm planning to get me an Android phone, and sticking Mageia on it at
+some point too :)
+
+Thats all for now...
+
+--
+Thomas
+
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+
+My name is Derek Morgan, i leave in france and had lessons on network (
+ldap, postfix, ... ), i can learn stuff i don't know yet ( and i love to
+learn :) ).
+
+I am available all day and night if needed ( like nagios sending sms ).
+
+
+I will be happy to help on configuring Gosa to help to configure our ldap
+easily, and other things when needed.
+
+
+I am proud to be part of mageia sysadmin team.
+
+
+
+---
+Derek Morgan
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+Here is some infos about the machines we have, or we will have.
+
+Currently we have those machines available :
+- one dedibox server :
+ <A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-v3.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-v3.xhtml</A>
+- two gandi virtual machines, one share for each :
+ <A HREF="http://en.gandi.net/hosting/">http://en.gandi.net/hosting/</A>
+
+Later, we should be able to install some machines in a datacenter
+(thanks to rapsys). It should be at least 4 powerfull machines. Each
+one should have between 4 and 12 cores, 8 or 12GB of RAM, and a lot of
+disk space.
+
+Before we are able to setup the machines in the datacenter, we can start
+using the machines we already have. They are currently used for this :
+ - the dedibox is used to setup the forum
+ - the first gandi VM is used by :
+ * meetbot
+ * a temporary svn server (to host the website, and servers config)
+ * an ldap server (Buchan is working on it)
+ - the second gandi VM is not used yet, but should be used to host the
+ main website soon
+
+I think we can probably start soon to setup the following services :
+ - dns servers (one on a gandi VM, an other one on the dedibox)
+ - mailing list server on ml.mageia.org on the dedibox as we may need
+ new lists soon to organize teams. If using sympa, with users managed by
+ the ldap server, we need the ldap server and its web interface ready.
+ But we can start testing now.
+ - main mageia web site (on the second gandi VM)
+ - epoll
+
+Later, the machines in the datacenter can be used for this :
+ - Server1: bugzilla/nagios/dns1/sql/ldap/api/mail/mailling/pastebin/wiki/planet
+ - Server2: svn/git/BS scheduler/hdlists/primary mirror
+ - Server3: BS node
+ - Server4: BS node
+
+If you have any other ideas, comments or questions, don't hesitate to
+reply.
+
+Nicolas
+
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 08 octobre 2010 &#224; 01:07 +0200, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here is some infos about the machines we have, or we will have.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Currently we have those machines available :
+</I>&gt;<i> - one dedibox server :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-v3.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-v3.xhtml</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> - two gandi virtual machines, one share for each :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.gandi.net/hosting/">http://en.gandi.net/hosting/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Later, we should be able to install some machines in a datacenter
+</I>&gt;<i> (thanks to rapsys). It should be at least 4 powerfull machines. Each
+</I>&gt;<i> one should have between 4 and 12 cores, 8 or 12GB of RAM, and a lot of
+</I>&gt;<i> disk space.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Before we are able to setup the machines in the datacenter, we can start
+</I>&gt;<i> using the machines we already have. They are currently used for this :
+</I>&gt;<i> - the dedibox is used to setup the forum
+</I>&gt;<i> - the first gandi VM is used by :
+</I>&gt;<i> * meetbot
+</I>&gt;<i> * a temporary svn server (to host the website, and servers config)
+</I>&gt;<i> * an ldap server (Buchan is working on it)
+</I>&gt;<i> - the second gandi VM is not used yet, but should be used to host the
+</I>&gt;<i> main website soon
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think we can probably start soon to setup the following services :
+</I>&gt;<i> - dns servers (one on a gandi VM, an other one on the dedibox)
+</I>&gt;<i> - mailing list server on ml.mageia.org on the dedibox as we may need
+</I>&gt;<i> new lists soon to organize teams. If using sympa, with users managed by
+</I>&gt;<i> the ldap server, we need the ldap server and its web interface ready.
+</I>&gt;<i> But we can start testing now.
+</I>&gt;<i> - main mageia web site (on the second gandi VM)
+</I>&gt;<i> - epoll
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Later, the machines in the datacenter can be used for this :
+</I>&gt;<i> - Server1: bugzilla/nagios/dns1/sql/ldap/api/mail/mailling/pastebin/wiki/planet
+</I>John have working on updating planet on zarb.org, i guess he will be
+able to transfer that.
+
+&gt;<i> - Server2: svn/git/BS scheduler/hdlists/primary mirror
+</I>is this were the key to sign packages will be kept ?
+
+&gt;<i> - Server3: BS node
+</I>&gt;<i> - Server4: BS node
+</I>
+Does people have direct access on both ?
+
+&gt;<i> If you have any other ideas, comments or questions, don't hesitate to
+</I>&gt;<i> reply.
+</I>
+No backup server ? No postfix ( primary and secondary ) ? No wiki ?
+Would all web applications be hosted on the same server ( ie epoll,
+transifex and other applications ? )
+
+We should have a secondary ldap. I would also add a ticket system which
+is not bugzilla ( as infrastructure as a product would be weird ).
+
+And we may need somewhere to write the doc, if possible something that
+can be used offline.
+
+We also need to discuss what is our responsibility and what is not ( ie,
+who is root on what server, mainly the website one, and who decide of
+the various setting, mainly php/apache ). I would propose that we
+leverage a VCS + some soft like cfengine/puppet to delegate some part
+( like some vhosts settings on some server ) to some others groups ( and
+this would also provides tracability, ie, no direct root access ).
+
+
+--
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 08/10/10 00:41 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 08 octobre 2010 &#224; 01:07 +0200, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Here is some infos about the machines we have, or we will have.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Currently we have those machines available :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - one dedibox server :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-v3.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-v3.xhtml</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - two gandi virtual machines, one share for each :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.gandi.net/hosting/">http://en.gandi.net/hosting/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Later, we should be able to install some machines in a datacenter
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (thanks to rapsys). It should be at least 4 powerfull machines. Each
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> one should have between 4 and 12 cores, 8 or 12GB of RAM, and a lot of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> disk space.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Before we are able to setup the machines in the datacenter, we can start
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> using the machines we already have. They are currently used for this :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - the dedibox is used to setup the forum
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - the first gandi VM is used by :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * meetbot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * a temporary svn server (to host the website, and servers config)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * an ldap server (Buchan is working on it)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - the second gandi VM is not used yet, but should be used to host the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> main website soon
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think we can probably start soon to setup the following services :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - dns servers (one on a gandi VM, an other one on the dedibox)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - mailing list server on ml.mageia.org on the dedibox as we may need
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> new lists soon to organize teams. If using sympa, with users managed by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the ldap server, we need the ldap server and its web interface ready.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But we can start testing now.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - main mageia web site (on the second gandi VM)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - epoll
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Later, the machines in the datacenter can be used for this :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Server1: bugzilla/nagios/dns1/sql/ldap/api/mail/mailling/pastebin/wiki/planet
+</I>&gt;<i> John have working on updating planet on zarb.org, i guess he will be
+</I>&gt;<i> able to transfer that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No backup server ? No postfix ( primary and secondary ) ? No wiki ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Would all web applications be hosted on the same server ( ie epoll,
+</I>&gt;<i> transifex and other applications ? )
+</I>
+&quot;mail&quot; is mentioned above which I presume to mean postfix. Shall we just
+decide now not to host any mail accounts (i.e. pop or imap) and only
+provide forwarding services or will we provide real accounts?
+
+&gt;<i> We should have a secondary ldap. I would also add a ticket system which
+</I>&gt;<i> is not bugzilla ( as infrastructure as a product would be weird ).
+</I>
+Is it really worth adding a separate ticketing system for this?
+Integrating it with LDAP so people can report problems etc. etc. (or
+would you prefer an uber simple ticket system so that if someone wants
+to report that e.g. LDAP is broken, they'll be able to! :D
+
+&gt;<i> And we may need somewhere to write the doc, if possible something that
+</I>&gt;<i> can be used offline.
+</I>
+Doc in git? Download it locally or view it live on web, plus update it
+easily? Just a thought.
+
+Col
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+<PRE>On Fri, 01 Oct 2010, Michael Scherer wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 01 octobre 2010 &#224; 12:29 +0200, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Mandriva build system we were using cfengine. I think cfengine is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; quite simple, works correctly, and some of us already know how to use
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> what version of cfengine ? because there is cfengine 2, not maintained
+</I>&gt;<i> AFAIK, and cfengine 3, that none of us know.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But other people are also using puppet. Do you have opinions about
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; what we should use for Mageia servers ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Having to use cfengine 2 on zarb and mdv, and puppet on my own server, I
+</I>&gt;<i> would say I prefer puppet.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Puppet community seems more alive, and favors a modular approach. I also
+</I>&gt;<i> think it is easier to extend and understand ( both use a dsl, but I
+</I>&gt;<i> found it as easier to understand puppet dsl than cfengine one ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Guillomovitch proposed we switch to puppet, but I do not exactly know
+</I>&gt;<i> the reason.
+</I>
+Interesting. I have never used puppet, but I'm ok to use it (if you
+think that's better).
+
+&gt;<i> On the other hand, we already have part of the configuration from mdv in
+</I>&gt;<i> cfengine, which is a important point too.
+</I>
+I think we did not use very advanced features of cfengine, so maybe it
+would be not too difficult to convert to puppet.
+
+By the way, do you have a backup of the cfengine directory on the
+Mandriva build system ?
+
+Nicolas
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 08 octobre 2010 &#224; 08:58 +0100, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 08/10/10 00:41 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le vendredi 08 octobre 2010 &#224; 01:07 +0200, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Here is some infos about the machines we have, or we will have.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Currently we have those machines available :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - one dedibox server :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-v3.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-v3.xhtml</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - two gandi virtual machines, one share for each :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://en.gandi.net/hosting/">http://en.gandi.net/hosting/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Later, we should be able to install some machines in a datacenter
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (thanks to rapsys). It should be at least 4 powerfull machines. Each
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; one should have between 4 and 12 cores, 8 or 12GB of RAM, and a lot of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; disk space.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Before we are able to setup the machines in the datacenter, we can start
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; using the machines we already have. They are currently used for this :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - the dedibox is used to setup the forum
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - the first gandi VM is used by :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; * meetbot
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; * a temporary svn server (to host the website, and servers config)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; * an ldap server (Buchan is working on it)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - the second gandi VM is not used yet, but should be used to host the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; main website soon
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I think we can probably start soon to setup the following services :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - dns servers (one on a gandi VM, an other one on the dedibox)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - mailing list server on ml.mageia.org on the dedibox as we may need
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; new lists soon to organize teams. If using sympa, with users managed by
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the ldap server, we need the ldap server and its web interface ready.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; But we can start testing now.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - main mageia web site (on the second gandi VM)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - epoll
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Later, the machines in the datacenter can be used for this :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - Server1: bugzilla/nagios/dns1/sql/ldap/api/mail/mailling/pastebin/wiki/planet
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; John have working on updating planet on zarb.org, i guess he will be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; able to transfer that.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; No backup server ? No postfix ( primary and secondary ) ? No wiki ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Would all web applications be hosted on the same server ( ie epoll,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; transifex and other applications ? )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;mail&quot; is mentioned above which I presume to mean postfix. Shall we just
+</I>&gt;<i> decide now not to host any mail accounts (i.e. pop or imap) and only
+</I>&gt;<i> provide forwarding services or will we provide real accounts?
+</I>
+indeed. I think we should start small and give alias only.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; We should have a secondary ldap. I would also add a ticket system which
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is not bugzilla ( as infrastructure as a product would be weird ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is it really worth adding a separate ticketing system for this?
+</I>&gt;<i> Integrating it with LDAP so people can report problems etc. etc. (or
+</I>&gt;<i> would you prefer an uber simple ticket system so that if someone wants
+</I>&gt;<i> to report that e.g. LDAP is broken, they'll be able to! :D
+</I>
+I would hope that
+1) nagios could detect when ldap is broken
+2) user could contact us in case of problem without using ticket ( even
+if we should not do it too often, cause this may be a mess )
+
+Regarding a separate ticket, well, maybe we can find something that
+could be best suited to our duty.
+
+Ie, there is no version or release, nor plateform, nor source rpm or
+specific data for the infrastructure.
+
+Or more precisely, there is maybe specific adjustments to do that would
+conflict with a bugzilla used for software, and packages. For example,
+we can decide to have a field &quot;server&quot;, that would not make sense. We
+may also want to not interfere with packagers stats, or think like
+that.
+
+But I am not sure, hence my question :)
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; And we may need somewhere to write the doc, if possible something that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; can be used offline.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Doc in git? Download it locally or view it live on web, plus update it
+</I>&gt;<i> easily? Just a thought.
+</I>
+Well, a doc in a vcs, along with configuration, yup.
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Later, the machines in the datacenter can be used for this :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Server1: bugzilla/nagios/dns1/sql/ldap/api/mail/mailling/pastebin/wiki/planet
+</I>&gt;<i> John have working on updating planet on zarb.org, i guess he will be
+</I>&gt;<i> able to transfer that.
+</I>
+Good !
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Server2: svn/git/BS scheduler/hdlists/primary mirror
+</I>&gt;<i> is this were the key to sign packages will be kept ?
+</I>
+Yes, at least for Cooker.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Server3: BS node
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Server4: BS node
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Does people have direct access on both ?
+</I>
+I think that for security, we should not allow people to log in to the
+build nodes and Server2 (which replace kenobi). Except minimal access
+with restricted commands to allow &quot;mdvsys submit&quot; to work.
+
+About servers for packagers to test package builds, I think we should
+have separate servers.
+
+With current Mandriva build system, any contributor (even apprentice
+without submit rights) can easily become root with iurt (or using a
+security issue in any package, because any package from the repository
+can be installed), access the mandrake account and then login to almost
+any server in the BS using mandrake ssh key, and then silently replace
+packages on the repository. We can probably trust long time
+contributors, but it's difficult to trust people we don't know who asked
+for an apprentice account.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If you have any other ideas, comments or questions, don't hesitate to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; reply.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No backup server ? No postfix ( primary and secondary ) ? No wiki ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Would all web applications be hosted on the same server ( ie epoll,
+</I>&gt;<i> transifex and other applications ? )
+</I>
+Yes, backup server is still missing. We will maybe need to buy one, or
+find an other server to do it. For now, maybe the servers can backup
+each others.
+
+For the wiki and all web apps, yes they will be on the same server. I
+think the server is quite fast.
+
+&gt;<i> We should have a secondary ldap. I would also add a ticket system which
+</I>&gt;<i> is not bugzilla ( as infrastructure as a product would be weird ).
+</I>
+Do you have some suggestions for the ticket system ?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And we may need somewhere to write the doc, if possible something that
+</I>&gt;<i> can be used offline.
+</I>
+So something other than the wiki ?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We also need to discuss what is our responsibility and what is not ( ie,
+</I>&gt;<i> who is root on what server, mainly the website one, and who decide of
+</I>&gt;<i> the various setting, mainly php/apache ). I would propose that we
+</I>&gt;<i> leverage a VCS + some soft like cfengine/puppet to delegate some part
+</I>&gt;<i> ( like some vhosts settings on some server ) to some others groups ( and
+</I>&gt;<i> this would also provides tracability, ie, no direct root access ).
+</I>
+Yes, good idea. We should also send commit logs to this mailing so we
+know when something is changed.
+
+Nicolas
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As misc suggested, we can present ourself on this mailing list. So you
+</I>&gt;<i> can answer to this thread to present you.
+</I>
+We now have two new members in the sysadmin team, Nanar and blino.
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+
+We plan to install the servers in the datacenter this week. Damien will
+buy the hard disks we need tomorrow (tuesday). On Wednesday afternoon
+we will install the servers. I think we should install Mandriva 2010.1
+on the servers. On thursday we will drive to Marseille (Damien, Misc and
+me) and bring the servers to Ielo datacenter. On friday morning we will
+rack the machines and setup the network. On friday night all machines
+should be accessible by ssh, and we come back to Paris.
+
+Now we need to find names for the servers. Or a naming scheme.
+
+Any ideas ?
+
+Maybe one can be called Valstar.
+
+Nicolas
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and nicolas vigier at 18/10/10 15:51 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Now we need to find names for the servers. Or a naming scheme.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any ideas ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe one can be called Valstar.
+</I>
+Usual suspects:
+ * Simpsons Characters
+ * Star Wars Characters
+ * Place names.
+
+I've a bit bored of the first two, so how about naming the servers after
+the places where the founding members were born (or their favourite place).
+
+Col
+
+
+
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+
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+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>]
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>]
+ PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>]
+ Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>]
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+<PRE>Le lundi 18 octobre 2010 &#224; 15:54 +0100, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and nicolas vigier at 18/10/10 15:51 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Now we need to find names for the servers. Or a naming scheme.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Any ideas ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Maybe one can be called Valstar.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Usual suspects:
+</I>&gt;<i> * Simpsons Characters
+</I>&gt;<i> * Star Wars Characters
+</I>&gt;<i> * Place names.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've a bit bored of the first two, so how about naming the servers after
+</I>&gt;<i> the places where the founding members were born (or their favourite place).
+</I>
+I think we could indeed find a rotating naming scheme, ie we let 1
+person decide the name, and decide who will be the next to choose among
+the group who can decide ( and people cannot decide twice ).
+
+This way, we maximise the happiness of people :p
+
+And we can start by boklm, and use the current sysadmin group as the
+group who choose.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think we could indeed find a rotating naming scheme, ie we let 1
+</I>&gt;<i> person decide the name, and decide who will be the next to choose among
+</I>&gt;<i> the group who can decide ( and people cannot decide twice ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This way, we maximise the happiness of people :p
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And we can start by boklm, and use the current sysadmin group as the
+</I>&gt;<i> group who choose.
+</I>
+Good idea.
+
+We will have the following servers (maybe others later) :
+ - Server1: bugzilla/nagios/dns1/sql/ldap/api/mail/mailling/pastebin/wiki/planet
+ - Server2(valstar): svn/git/BS scheduler/hdlists/primary mirror
+ - Server3: BS node
+ - Server4: BS node
+ - Server5: backup server
+ - gandi VM1: used for dns, secondary mx, meetbot, temporary svn
+ - gandi VM2: website
+
+I select &quot;valstar&quot; for Server2 name. Misc you can select the name for an
+other server in the list (and select someone else to choose a name).
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+<PRE>Le lundi 18 octobre 2010 &#224; 17:38 +0200, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Mon, 18 Oct 2010, Michael Scherer wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I think we could indeed find a rotating naming scheme, ie we let 1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; person decide the name, and decide who will be the next to choose among
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the group who can decide ( and people cannot decide twice ).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This way, we maximise the happiness of people :p
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And we can start by boklm, and use the current sysadmin group as the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; group who choose.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Good idea.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We will have the following servers (maybe others later) :
+</I>&gt;<i> - Server1(alamut): bugzilla/nagios/dns1/sql/ldap/api/mail/mailling/pastebin/wiki/planet
+</I>&gt;<i> - Server2(valstar): svn/git/BS scheduler/hdlists/primary mirror
+</I>&gt;<i> - Server3: BS node
+</I>&gt;<i> - Server4: BS node
+</I>&gt;<i> - Server5: backup server
+</I>&gt;<i> - gandi VM1: used for dns, secondary mx, meetbot, temporary svn
+</I>&gt;<i> - gandi VM2: website
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> I select &quot;valstar&quot; for Server2 name. Misc you can select the name for an
+</I>&gt;<i> other server in the list (and select someone else to choose a name).
+</I>
+Ok, I take the server1, and I propose to name it Alamut.
+
+And I nominate Coling for the next server.
+
+
+--
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 18/10/10 17:23 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And we can start by boklm, and use the current sysadmin group as the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> group who choose.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Good idea.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We will have the following servers (maybe others later) :
+</I>&gt;<i> - Server1(alamut): bugzilla/nagios/dns1/sql/ldap/api/mail/mailling/pastebin/wiki/planet
+</I>&gt;<i> - Server2(valstar): svn/git/BS scheduler/hdlists/primary mirror
+</I>&gt;<i> - Server3(ecosse): BS node
+</I>&gt;<i> - Server4: BS node
+</I>&gt;<i> - Server5: backup server
+</I>&gt;<i> - gandi VM1: used for dns, secondary mx, meetbot, temporary svn
+</I>&gt;<i> - gandi VM2: website
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Ok, I take the server1, and I propose to name it Alamut.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And I nominate Coling for the next server.
+</I>
+OK, I'll take a build node and call it &#201;cosse. If possible please paint
+it blue with a couple white stripes crossing it :p
+
+And I nominate Thomas for the next server.
+
+Col
+
+
+--
+
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+<PRE>Colin Guthrie skrev 18.10.2010 19:34:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 18/10/10 17:23 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And we can start by boklm, and use the current sysadmin group as the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> group who choose.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Good idea.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We will have the following servers (maybe others later) :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Server1(alamut): bugzilla/nagios/dns1/sql/ldap/api/mail/mailling/pastebin/wiki/planet
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Server2(valstar): svn/git/BS scheduler/hdlists/primary mirror
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Server3(ecosse): BS node
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Server4(jonund): BS node
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Server5: backup server
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - gandi VM1: used for dns, secondary mx, meetbot, temporary svn
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - gandi VM2: website
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ok, I take the server1, and I propose to name it Alamut.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And I nominate Coling for the next server.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> OK, I'll take a build node and call it &#201;cosse. If possible please paint
+</I>&gt;<i> it blue with a couple white stripes crossing it :p
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And I nominate Thomas for the next server.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+So I'll take the other build node and call it Jonund.
+
+And I nominate damsweb for the next server.
+
+--
+Thomas
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+<PRE>On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:34:47 +0300, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">tmb at iki.fi</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie skrev 18.10.2010 19:34:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 18/10/10 17:23 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And we can start by boklm, and use the current sysadmin group as the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> group who choose.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Good idea.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We will have the following servers (maybe others later) :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Server1(alamut): bugzilla/nagios/dns1/sql/ldap/api/mail/mailling/pastebin/wiki/planet
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Server2(valstar): svn/git/BS scheduler/hdlists/primary mirror
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Server3(ecosse): BS node
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Server4(jonund): BS node
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Server5(fiona): backup server
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - gandi VM1: used for dns, secondary mx, meetbot, temporary svn
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - gandi VM2: website
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ok, I take the server1, and I propose to name it Alamut.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And I nominate Coling for the next server.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> OK, I'll take a build node and call it &#201;cosse. If possible please paint
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it blue with a couple white stripes crossing it :p
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And I nominate Thomas for the next server.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I'll take the other build node and call it Jonund.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And I nominate damsweb for the next server.
+</I>
+Hello I choose server 5 and call it &quot;fiona&quot; (like in Shrek :p).
+And I nominate dmorgan for the next server.
+--
+Damien Lallement
+aka &quot;damsweb&quot; or &quot;coincoin&quot; on IRC and twitter
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:34:47 +0300, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">tmb at iki.fi</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Colin Guthrie skrev 18.10.2010 19:34:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 18/10/10 17:23 did gyre and
+</I>&gt;<i> gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; And we can start by boklm, and use the current sysadmin group as the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; group who choose.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Good idea.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; We will have the following servers (maybe others later) :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - Server1(alamut):
+</I>&gt;<i> bugzilla/nagios/dns1/sql/ldap/api/mail/mailling/pastebin/wiki/planet
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - Server2(valstar): svn/git/BS scheduler/hdlists/primary mirror
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - Server3(ecosse): BS node
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - Server4(jonund): BS node
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - Server5(fiona): backup server
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - gandi VM1: used for dns, secondary mx, meetbot, temporary svn
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - gandi VM2: website
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Ok, I take the server1, and I propose to name it Alamut.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; And I nominate Coling for the next server.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; OK, I'll take a build node and call it &#201;cosse. If possible please paint
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; it blue with a couple white stripes crossing it :p
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; And I nominate Thomas for the next server.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So I'll take the other build node and call it Jonund.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And I nominate damsweb for the next server.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hello I choose server 5 and call it &quot;fiona&quot; (like in Shrek :p).
+</I>&gt;<i> And I nominate dmorgan for the next server.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hi all,
+
+i propose kouign-amann for the gandi VM1
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+<PRE>Le mardi 19 octobre 2010 &#224; 22:21 +0200, Derek Morgan a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Damien Lallement &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia at damsweb.net</A>&gt;wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:34:47 +0300, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">tmb at iki.fi</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Colin Guthrie skrev 18.10.2010 19:34:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; 'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 18/10/10 17:23 did gyre and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; And we can start by boklm, and use the current sysadmin group as the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; group who choose.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Good idea.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; We will have the following servers (maybe others later) :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; - Server1(alamut):
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; bugzilla/nagios/dns1/sql/ldap/api/mail/mailling/pastebin/wiki/planet
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; - Server2(valstar): svn/git/BS scheduler/hdlists/primary mirror
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; - Server3(ecosse): BS node
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; - Server4(jonund): BS node
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; - Server5(fiona): backup server
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; - gandi VM1: used for dns, secondary mx, meetbot, temporary svn
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; - gandi VM2: website
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Ok, I take the server1, and I propose to name it Alamut.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; And I nominate Coling for the next server.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; OK, I'll take a build node and call it &#201;cosse. If possible please paint
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; it blue with a couple white stripes crossing it :p
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; And I nominate Thomas for the next server.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; So I'll take the other build node and call it Jonund.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; And I nominate damsweb for the next server.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello I choose server 5 and call it &quot;fiona&quot; (like in Shrek :p).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And I nominate dmorgan for the next server.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i propose kouign-amann for the gandi VM1
+</I>
+and you need to give the name of the next person to choose, who will
+also be the last one for the moment.
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+<PRE>Le lundi 18 octobre 2010 &#224; 17:34 +0100, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 18/10/10 17:23 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; And we can start by boklm, and use the current sysadmin group as the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; group who choose.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Good idea.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We will have the following servers (maybe others later) :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Server1(alamut): bugzilla/nagios/dns1/sql/ldap/api/mail/mailling/pastebin/wiki/planet
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Server2(valstar): svn/git/BS scheduler/hdlists/primary mirror
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Server3(ecosse): BS node
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Server4: BS node
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Server5: backup server
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - gandi VM1: used for dns, secondary mx, meetbot, temporary svn
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - gandi VM2: website
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Ok, I take the server1, and I propose to name it Alamut.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And I nominate Coling for the next server.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> OK, I'll take a build node and call it &#201;cosse. If possible please paint
+</I>&gt;<i> it blue with a couple white stripes crossing it :p
+</I>
+I am not sure that &#233; is valid for the hostname, so it will be ecosse,
+no ?
+
+
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 20/10/10 13:23 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Le lundi 18 octobre 2010 &#224; 17:34 +0100, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 18/10/10 17:23 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And we can start by boklm, and use the current sysadmin group as the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> group who choose.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Good idea.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We will have the following servers (maybe others later) :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Server1(alamut): bugzilla/nagios/dns1/sql/ldap/api/mail/mailling/pastebin/wiki/planet
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Server2(valstar): svn/git/BS scheduler/hdlists/primary mirror
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Server3(ecosse): BS node
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Server4: BS node
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Server5: backup server
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - gandi VM1: used for dns, secondary mx, meetbot, temporary svn
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - gandi VM2: website
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ok, I take the server1, and I propose to name it Alamut.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And I nominate Coling for the next server.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> OK, I'll take a build node and call it &#201;cosse. If possible please paint
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it blue with a couple white stripes crossing it :p
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am not sure that &#233; is valid for the hostname, so it will be ecosse,
+</I>&gt;<i> no ?
+</I>
+Yeah, that's why I wrote it without the acute in the server list above :p
+
+Col
+
+--
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+<PRE>On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Derek Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Damien Lallement &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia at damsweb.net</A>&gt;wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:34:47 +0300, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">tmb at iki.fi</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Colin Guthrie skrev 18.10.2010 19:34:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 18/10/10 17:23 did gyre and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; And we can start by boklm, and use the current sysadmin group as the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; group who choose.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Good idea.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; We will have the following servers (maybe others later) :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - Server1(alamut):
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bugzilla/nagios/dns1/sql/ldap/api/mail/mailling/pastebin/wiki/planet
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - Server2(valstar): svn/git/BS scheduler/hdlists/primary mirror
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - Server3(ecosse): BS node
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - Server4(jonund): BS node
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - Server5(fiona): backup server
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - gandi VM1(kouign-amann): used for dns, secondary mx, meetbot,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> temporary svn
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - gandi VM2: website
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Ok, I take the server1, and I propose to name it Alamut.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; And I nominate Coling for the next server.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; OK, I'll take a build node and call it &#201;cosse. If possible please paint
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; it blue with a couple white stripes crossing it :p
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; And I nominate Thomas for the next server.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; So I'll take the other build node and call it Jonund.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; And I nominate damsweb for the next server.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello I choose server 5 and call it &quot;fiona&quot; (like in Shrek :p).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And I nominate dmorgan for the next server.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i propose kouign-amann for the gandi VM1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Now this is up to severine to choose the name of the next machine.
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+<PRE>2010/10/22 Derek Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Derek Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Damien Lallement &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia at damsweb.net</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:34:47 +0300, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">tmb at iki.fi</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Colin Guthrie skrev 18.10.2010 19:34:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 18/10/10 17:23 did gyre and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; And we can start by boklm, and use the current sysadmin group as
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; group who choose.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Good idea.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; We will have the following servers (maybe others later) :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &#160; - Server1(alamut):
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; bugzilla/nagios/dns1/sql/ldap/api/mail/mailling/pastebin/wiki/planet
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &#160; - Server2(valstar): svn/git/BS scheduler/hdlists/primary mirror
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &#160; - Server3(ecosse): BS node
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &#160; - Server4(jonund): BS node
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &#160; - Server5(fiona): backup server
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &#160; - gandi VM1(kouign-amann): used for dns, secondary mx, meetbot,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; temporary svn
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &#160; - gandi VM2(champagne): website
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Ok, I take the server1, and I propose to name it Alamut.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; And I nominate Coling for the next server.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; OK, I'll take a build node and call it &#201;cosse. If possible please
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; paint
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; it blue with a couple white stripes crossing it :p
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; And I nominate Thomas for the next server.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; So I'll take the other build node and call it Jonund.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; And I nominate damsweb for the next server.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hello I choose server 5 and call it &quot;fiona&quot; (like in Shrek :p).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And I nominate dmorgan for the next server.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i propose kouign-amann for the gandi VM1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now this is up to severine to choose the name of the next machine.
+</I>
+Hello all,
+
+I propose the name &quot;champagne&quot; for gandi VM2.
+
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+<PRE>On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:13 AM, Derek Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i propose kouign-amann for the gandi VM1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now this is up to severine to choose the name of the next machine.
+</I>
+Hi,
+
+there was some issues with for some people ( long + use of - )
+
+so i change the name of the gandi VM1 to :
+
+KRAMPOUEZH
+
+
+regards
+Derek
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+
+so first the good news. I have done some cleaning ( mainly removal of
+avahi, mandi and other packages that are not relevant on a server ).
+While on it, I have also added the ipv6 that we didn't set up when in
+DC.
+
+So if you have ipv6 connectivity, you can ping ecosse, alamut and
+jonund.
+
+So where is the bad news ? Well, if you have ip v6 connectivity, you
+cannot ping valstar. And if you only have ip v4 connectivity, you cannot
+either.
+
+I connected this afternoon, so it was working one hour ago. I am pretty
+sure that I didn't touched to the network, not to a point that would
+render it unusable. Unfortunately, not only valstar has no admin card,
+but I think it also suffer from a bios bug that sometimes prevent a
+restart after a power shortage. IIRC, the power is doubled so it should
+not happen much.
+
+However, it seems that alamut just got rebooted too :
+
+$ ssh <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at alamut.mageia.org</A> uptime
+19:13:38 up 5:21, 0 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
+
+We ( me and dams ) will investigate and report.
+
+I will also post a planning later ( about what is needed, what is
+planned, etc, etc ).
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+so now the server are in place, we have to install them. Here is a
+proposal of the needed services :
+
+so as said on the blog, one of the first task should be to migrate dns
+from zarb to mageia.org.
+- primary dns ( on alamut )
+- secondary dns ( at gandi )
+
+Since zarb.org is hosted in the same rack, having the secundary dns
+doesn't seems like a smart idea.
+
+This one requires to collaborate with rda has he take care of the domain
+at gandi. I assume that no one has a objection to use bind for that ?
+
+
+Then we need to deploy the basic infrastructure for us. Again, I assume
+that no one is against apache :
+- ldap ( valstar or alamut ? )
+- apache
+- buchan application
+- create account for us.
+
+I would also and as I said before, use puppet/svn to manage the servers.
+But this part will require a full mail on his own.
+
+- puppetmaster ( valstar )
+- svn ( requires ldap ), on valstar
+- manage/migrate config
+
+Then we have to take care of installing the first web applications, and
+that requires a db :
+- postgresql ( alamut )
+- epoll ( alamut )
+
+
+then the rest is less prioritary :
+- postfix ( alamut )
+- migrate to sympa ( alamut )
+- enter everybody in the ldap
+- nagios/munin ( or similar ) ( alamut )
+- migrate blogs
+- migrate wiki
+- nanar application for mirror
+- etc.
+
+So is there any tasks that you think should be done before this ? ( ie,
+not something that will likely appear in etc ).
+
+&quot;saving valstar&quot; do not count, of course we need to find out what
+happened.
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+so as I said in the previous mail ( and before ), I propose that we use
+puppet+svn to manage the servers. Since this may not be obvious to
+everybody here is a long mail with a long explanation of each point.
+( spoiler, there is a bold proposal in the middle ).
+
+
+So first, what is puppet ?
+--------------------------
+
+As I didn't found a better explanation than the one of their website,
+let's cut and paste :
+
+&quot;Puppet is an open source data center automation and configuration
+management framework. Puppet provides system administrators with a
+simplified platform that allows for consistent, transparent, and
+flexible systems management.&quot;
+
+If you have heard of cfengine ( used at mdv ), or bcfg2, puppet is
+similar. It allows you to describe your computers in a configuration
+file and take care of installing and setting them according the
+configuration file. For example, you can say 'for server of group web
+server, install apache php, and use this config file, and start this
+process'. Usually, such system are combined with a regular vcs like svn,
+for reason that I will outline later.
+
+To quickly explain how it work, there is a central server ( called
+&quot;puppetmaster&quot; for puppet ) and a agent on each computer. Agents fetch
+the config from puppetmaster after a configurable interval of time and
+apply it ( ie, install rpm, change configfile, reload software, run
+tasks, etc ).
+
+
+So why use a configuration management system and a vcs ?
+--------------------------------------------------------
+
+First, it provides use with a audit trail. Like for code, we know who
+changed what and why. The goal is not to distribute blame, but to be
+able to have more information about a change ( ie, if 2 years ago, I
+changed some php variable that later found out to break some web
+software, the changelog will tell us why it was changed in the first
+place, maybe to fix another important software ). It allows us to repeat
+a configuration ( useful to migrate a service or to reinstall a
+server ), to rollback to previous versions of the configuration, and to
+work concurrently.
+
+It also ensure that process are running which add a extra safety layer
+in case of problem. And we can use hooks to check file before applying
+them automatically, or send mail to the admin when there is a change.
+For example, you can no longer commit broken dns zone since they are
+checked them before applying automatically ( provided you write the
+proper script, of course ).
+
+
+Why use puppet and not $FOO ?
+-----------------------------
+
+That's a good question. First, let's be honest, I take care of puppet in
+mdv, so of course, I am biased. In term of softwares, there is lots of
+choice
+( <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_configuration_management_software">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_configuration_management_software</A> ), but reading on the topic on the web, we can safely restrict our discussion to cfengine 2, cfengine 3, puppet, bcfg2, chef.
+
+Chef is not packaged, nor easy to setup ( imho ) unless you use gems
+( which is a bad idea ). The configuration is basically written ruby. It
+seems nice, but no one played with it around me ( except people at
+CERN ).
+
+Cfengine 2 is what is used at zarb, and also lightly used at mandriva. I
+took a look at mandriva configuration, it is mainly used to prevent
+service from starting and to manage fstab. So nothing that could prevent
+a migration and in fact, almost nothing to reuse. The version 2 is also
+the legacy branch, and I am not sure it is maintained ( guillomovitch
+may know better than me ).
+So far, I think boklm, blino, me and maybe nanar know it.
+
+Bcfg2 is not packaged, and use xml for config file, which is imho a bad
+point for it. I have some friends that use it, they do not seems unhappy
+with it. yet, I found few information about it besides the web site.
+
+Cfengine3 is not packaged either. And the configuration language is
+different from cfengine 2, which would mean that we will likely have to
+re-learn it, for those that know the older version.
+
+Puppet is packaged ( by me ). It is used by several free software group
+( afaik, redhat and mozilla among others ), maintained by a enterprise
+and there is a healthy community providing modules and software around
+it. From what I know, Nanar and I know how to use it. Boklm also started
+to look at it.
+
+So I think we should first use a packaged software, for various obvious
+reasons. So the choice is basically between puppet and cfengine2. I
+asked to guillomovitch, our zarb.org cfengine expert about the migration
+to cfengine3, and he told me he was planning to use puppet instead. And
+having used both in production ( either zarb.org or my own server ), I
+think puppet is nicer and provides more high level component than
+cfengine 2, and is maintained. And since there will be almost no
+configuration reuse from Mandriva, I do not think it will be worth to
+keep it.
+
+
+Why use svn and not $FOO ?
+---------------------------
+
+Again a good question. At zarb, we use svn. At mdv, afaik, we used
+nothing, cfengine was just here to automate the cluster setup, which is
+a similar yet different task than the one we are discussing now. So, as
+I prefer DVCS, I tested git + puppet for you, 6 months ago. And after 3
+weeks, I have migrated to svn the whole system. The git hooks are just
+too complex for my poor mind ( ie, checking the syntax of puppet, bind,
+etc before applying was not easy ). So since svn is quite straight
+forward with that, and since we can always use git-svn to have the best
+of both world, I suggest to use svn.
+
+( yes, hg, bzr, cvs and the gazillion others were not suggested ).
+
+Now, if someone is a git-hooks master, I have no problem with git.
+
+What would be the work flow ?
+-----------------------------
+
+So the idea is :
+- a admin commit some config change in svn repository,
+- svn check the syntax if needed ( pre-commit hook )
+- svn extract the configuration with a post-commit hook ( and send a
+email ),
+- puppetmaster notice the change,
+- puppetmaster reload the configuration
+- each server get the configuration after some time
+- each server apply the configuration, and send mail in case of problem
+
+We can also add ACLs if needed.
+
+Could we also use svn to manage the documentation ?
+---------------------------------------------------
+
+Indeed, that's a good suggestion. I have learned that the documentation
+is indeed something that I never find when I need, and I have been often
+frustrated by the lack of useful tools to exploit it ( lik grep ). So,
+to me, it make sense to have the documentation along the configuration
+since I always have a checkout of the configuration on my home, and
+since I often update it. ( which is usually not the case with most
+wikis, as this requires extranous step ).
+
+
+Where is the bold proposal ?
+-----------------------------
+
+And now, for the very very bold part of the proposal :
+
+this svn should be public. Ie, people could browse it, changelog should
+be sent on this ml ( which is public ), and people could even do
+anonymous checkout.
+
+So I expect three type of reactions at this part of the mail :
+
+People who say &quot;mhh, I do not understand what he speak about&quot;.
+
+People who say &quot;this make sense, we are doing free software&quot;.
+
+And admins who are screaming &quot;argh, what about the passwords and
+security !&quot;
+
+
+So for people who do not understand, well, either reread or ask me on
+irc, or by mail. There is no shame into asking questions.
+
+For people who are screaming, first, no need to scream, I cannot hear
+you. And I have of course thought of that, and we can either :
+
+1) do a search and replace in puppet config for password stored in a
+secure location in the svn hooks that do the checkout
+
+2) use extlookup, a puppet feature that do this, provides we use it
+properly
+( <A HREF="http://www.devco.net/archives/2009/08/31/complex_data_and_puppet.php">http://www.devco.net/archives/2009/08/31/complex_data_and_puppet.php</A> ).
+
+Ie, we can store the passwords in a private CSV file somewhere, while
+publishing everything else. Obviously, stuff that count as data ( such
+as private certificates, gpg keys, etc ) should not be stored in svn, or
+not in the public one. And everything that would be considered as
+personal information should not be stored in the public svn either.
+
+And so for those that think, &quot;this make sense&quot;, yes, it make sense, but
+more than simple making sense, it bring some advantages :
+
+Sharing is the basis of the free software ethics. And so that show our
+commitment to free software.
+
+Publishing our configuration is also perfectly in line with the values
+of the project :
+
+&quot;We will empower our user base by demystifying advanced technologies&quot;
+-&gt; publishing our work as sysadmin is a step toward demystifying
+
+&quot;Mageia will always adhere to high security and privacy
+standards/technologies to protect our users' data.&quot;
+
+-&gt; letting everybody audit is IMHO a high security standard, while
+security by obscurity is not. We always say that free software is better
+for security for this reason, so we are consistent with this idea.
+
+&quot;We will cooperate with other OSS distributions and core and kernel
+developers with code contribution.&quot;
+
+-&gt; if the configuration is treated like code, so we are cooperating by
+giving it. For other distribution that may want to know how we do, be it
+big distros or smaller ones. For various project that want to know how
+we handle specific part of the infrastructure.
+
+&quot;We will maintain the vibrancy within our Community, always aiming to
+lead the way in collaborative development.&quot;
+
+-&gt; people are eager to help us as sysadmin. I received lots of help
+propositions. However for security reasons, I do not think we should
+have a group of 20 persons, neither we should have a too complex
+organisation for admins. Publishing the config allows us to collaborate
+with others by letting them :
+ - review our changes, as the svn changelog on cooker
+ - directly send patches, which can be much clearer to us
+ - directly search when they see a problem ( for very simple problem of
+course )
+ - help us to communicate with everybody when we fix problem or do some
+changes.
+
+More ever, this allow us to see who is motivated to help us, who is able
+to understand our infrastructure, and therefor, this can help us to
+recruit new admins in case of need, and allows us to manage the erosion
+of our group. This also bring a gentle introduction to new comers, who
+can see what happen.
+
+Finally, using this will allow us to have a forkable infrastructure. And
+this would a real innovation I think ( at least, a innovation good
+enough to be communicated ).
+
+I do not plan to let the project go bad, of course, but I also didn't
+intend Mandriva to disappear either.
+
+So in the future, if something goes wrong for any kind of reason, or if
+some peoples prefer to work without us, we are offering them what
+Mandriva didn't offered, a easy way to fork. And while I do hope it will
+not matter much in practice, I think that's a strong statement to
+demonstrate that we learned from our errors and that we have evolved.
+
+
+So, WDYT ?
+( please do not let me be warnocked
+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warnocked">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warnocked</A> )
+
+PS : baud, as I know you will ask me later and read this mail, yes, you
+can use use under CC-BY-SA or what you want.
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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+there is now a kernel-2.6.33.7-2.1mnb for 2010.1 at:
+
+<A HREF="http://tmb.mine.nu/Mandriva/2010.1/">http://tmb.mine.nu/Mandriva/2010.1/</A>
+<A HREF="http://tmb2.mine.nu/Mandriva/2010.1/">http://tmb2.mine.nu/Mandriva/2010.1/</A>
+
+With the fix:
+- vmscan: raise the bar to PAGEOUT_IO_SYNC stalls
+ (Fixes &quot;system goes unresponsive under memory pressure and lots of
+ dirty/writeback pages&quot; bug. (<A HREF="http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/4/4/86">http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/4/4/86</A>))
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+This was also suggested by blino to help the BS
+
+--
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+there is now a kernel-2.6.33.7-2.1mnb for 2010.1 at:
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+<A HREF="http://tmb2.mine.nu/Mandriva/2010.1/">http://tmb2.mine.nu/Mandriva/2010.1/</A>
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+With the fix:
+- vmscan: raise the bar to PAGEOUT_IO_SYNC stalls
+ (Fixes &quot;system goes unresponsive under memory pressure and lots of
+ dirty/writeback pages&quot; bug. (<A HREF="http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/4/4/86">http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/4/4/86</A>))
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+This was also suggested by blino to help the BS
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+<PRE>* Michael Scherer (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> so now the server are in place, we have to install them. Here is a
+</I>&gt;<i> proposal of the needed services :
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Then we need to deploy the basic infrastructure for us. Again, I assume
+</I>&gt;<i> that no one is against apache :
+</I>&gt;<i> - ldap ( valstar or alamut ? )
+</I>&gt;<i> - apache
+</I>&gt;<i> - buchan application
+</I>
+May I suggest to setup all our web on same server, especially since a
+lot use perl-Catalyst (buchan's one, epoll and the one I did to manage
+mirror).
+
+May I also suggest all our web be installed using RPM ?
+Notice I got some issue using catalyst in fcgi mod, but it works fine in
+server mode + apache as proxy.
+
+&gt;<i> - create account for us.
+</I>
+Yup, especially if we have to work on them :)
+
+&gt;<i> Then we have to take care of installing the first web applications, and
+</I>&gt;<i> that requires a db :
+</I>&gt;<i> - postgresql ( alamut )
+</I>&gt;<i> - epoll ( alamut )
+</I>+ MGA::Mirror, the tools currently on distrib-coffee to manage mirrors.
+
+I want to migrate it ASAP because http on distrib-coffee is not reliable
+due to load made by some distributions.
+
+Can I take this part since I know pgsql and I'll need them myself.
+
+BTW: I hope pgsql can have a dedicated fs, it can help to avoid out of
+space.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> then the rest is less prioritary :
+</I>&gt;<i> - postfix ( alamut )
+</I>&gt;<i> - migrate to sympa ( alamut )
+</I>&gt;<i> - enter everybody in the ldap
+</I>&gt;<i> - nagios/munin ( or similar ) ( alamut )
+</I>&gt;<i> - migrate blogs
+</I>&gt;<i> - migrate wiki
+</I>&gt;<i> - nanar application for mirror
+</I>
+Once pgsql + catalyst is installed, this part is easy to do. Notice it
+need a MTA to work, only to send mail.
+
+MY 2 cents.
+
+&gt;<i> - etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So is there any tasks that you think should be done before this ? ( ie,
+</I>&gt;<i> not something that will likely appear in etc ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;saving valstar&quot; do not count, of course we need to find out what
+</I>&gt;<i> happened.
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Michael Scherer
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>--
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+Olivier Thauvin
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 24 octobre 2010 &#224; 12:58 +0200, Olivier Thauvin a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> * Michael Scherer (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; so now the server are in place, we have to install them. Here is a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; proposal of the needed services :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Then we need to deploy the basic infrastructure for us. Again, I assume
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that no one is against apache :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - ldap ( valstar or alamut ? )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - apache
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - buchan application
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> May I suggest to setup all our web on same server, especially since a
+</I>&gt;<i> lot use perl-Catalyst (buchan's one, epoll and the one I did to manage
+</I>&gt;<i> mirror).
+</I>
+That's planned, except for specific reasons.
+
+&gt;<i> May I also suggest all our web be installed using RPM ?
+</I>
+That's also what I would love to see. Question is now, should this rpm
+be sent to upstream distro, be made on the server, or offered as a
+separate repository ?
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Then we have to take care of installing the first web applications, and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that requires a db :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - postgresql ( alamut )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - epoll ( alamut )
+</I>&gt;<i> + MGA::Mirror, the tools currently on distrib-coffee to manage mirrors.
+</I>
+I would have have thought it was less urgent at the moment ( ie, it goes
+to etc ). But if people do the work, that's ok, I cannot force people to
+no do it ( except Olivier as I have his stuffed rabbit in hostage, or
+maybe that's the reverse ).
+
+&gt;<i> I want to migrate it ASAP because http on distrib-coffee is not reliable
+</I>&gt;<i> due to load made by some distributions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can I take this part since I know pgsql and I'll need them myself.
+</I>
+Yup.
+
+&gt;<i> BTW: I hope pgsql can have a dedicated fs, it can help to avoid out of
+</I>&gt;<i> space.
+</I>
+We have setup lvm, iirc.
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at alamut</A> ~]# vgs
+ VG #PV #LV #SN Attr VSize VFree
+ vg_main 1 0 0 wz--n- 917,45g 917,45g
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; then the rest is less prioritary :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - postfix ( alamut )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - migrate to sympa ( alamut )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - enter everybody in the ldap
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - nagios/munin ( or similar ) ( alamut )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - migrate blogs
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - migrate wiki
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - nanar application for mirror
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Once pgsql + catalyst is installed, this part is easy to do. Notice it
+</I>&gt;<i> need a MTA to work, only to send mail.
+</I>
+I guess MTA to send mail should be part of the default installation,
+yes.
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+getting in the DC, and post a report. I also discussed with dams, and he
+told me he was the one who rebooted alamut to check something, so the
+hypothesis about a power shortage is likely wrong, and so we think it is
+a kernel panic ( and we didn't have the time to setup the magic sysctl
+setting to reboot after kernel panic ).
+
+But as I know that some people are likely to be interested into getting
+news about that ( like rda, for instance, as he tried to subscribed to
+this list and expressed interest about it ), does people think we should
+let everybody subscribe on this list ?
+
+I would be in favor of this, because it would in the continuity of what
+we did ( ie, open the archives, etc ), but I do not want to do so
+without the input of the others, as people may have a different PoV on
+the subject.
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+So WDYT ?
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+--
+Michael Scherer
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+<PRE>On Sunday, 24 October 2010 11:58:26 Olivier Thauvin wrote:
+&gt;<i> * Michael Scherer (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; so now the server are in place, we have to install them. Here is a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; proposal of the needed services :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Then we need to deploy the basic infrastructure for us. Again, I assume
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that no one is against apache :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - ldap ( valstar or alamut ? )
+</I>
+At this stage, I am thinking that we may want 3 servers running LDAP:
+-Master LDAP server, which is primarily not used by read-only clients. I
+haven't tested referrals yet in my app, so for now CatDap will probably need
+to use it. Could possibly be used as fall-back for either of the slaves
+-1 slave used primarily for infrastructure support, but not exposed to much
+external traffic. Mostly nss_ldap/pam_ldap on build hosts, and any other
+infrastructure stuff which we decide to put in LDAP. If the total userbase is
+too large we could consider a partial replica (e.g. only posixAccount
+entries), though we may need to test this a bit ...
+-1 slave used primarily for external traffic, e.g. forum, wiki etc. This could
+be the web server running some of these applications.
+
+If this is excessive, we could consider combining master and internal read
+access on one server (but I would prefer to have at least one fall-back
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; - apache
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - buchan application
+</I>
+Interim name for my app is CatDap, but feel free to suggest a better name.
+
+&gt;<i> May I suggest to setup all our web on same server, especially since a
+</I>&gt;<i> lot use perl-Catalyst (buchan's one, epoll and the one I did to manage
+</I>&gt;<i> mirror).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> May I also suggest all our web be installed using RPM ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Notice I got some issue using catalyst in fcgi mod, but it works fine in
+</I>&gt;<i> server mode + apache as proxy.
+</I>
+I will try and create a package today. I think all the dependencies should be
+available for Mdv2010.0 and up. However, if we want to have any contributions
+(skinning work from web team, localisations) with quick testing, it may be
+useful to run one instance from an svn checkout.
+
+BTW., do we want to run these apps on separate virtual hosts? Should I ship
+vhost definition in apache config (e.g. for identity.mageia.org)?
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; - create account for us.
+</I>
+Set up host authentication to LDAP first? We will need SSL certificates for
+LDAP hosts as well. Self-signed certs or certs from self-signed CA are fine.
+
+&gt;<i> Yup, especially if we have to work on them :)
+</I>
+I have created some accounts in LDAP, and I am happy to create any we need to
+proceed to the point where the account registration portion of CatDap is
+running. However, I think we may want to get internal use of it (for
+registration) before opening the gates ...
+
+Also, I probably need to start work on the admin features, for now I am
+planning:
+-user modification (e.g. add posixAccount to existing user account, modify any
+attributes necessary manually,
+-group management (add groups, modify group membership etc.)
+
+Please let me know what other features are important sooner than later.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Then we have to take care of installing the first web applications, and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that requires a db :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - postgresql ( alamut )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - epoll ( alamut )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> + MGA::Mirror, the tools currently on distrib-coffee to manage mirrors.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I want to migrate it ASAP because http on distrib-coffee is not reliable
+</I>&gt;<i> due to load made by some distributions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can I take this part since I know pgsql and I'll need them myself.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW: I hope pgsql can have a dedicated fs, it can help to avoid out of
+</I>&gt;<i> space.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; then the rest is less prioritary :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - postfix ( alamut )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - migrate to sympa ( alamut )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - enter everybody in the ldap
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - nagios/munin ( or similar ) ( alamut )
+</I>
+xymon?
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; - migrate blogs
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - migrate wiki
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - nanar application for mirror
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Once pgsql + catalyst is installed, this part is easy to do. Notice it
+</I>&gt;<i> need a MTA to work, only to send mail.
+</I>
+CatDap also requires an MTA for registration (sending only).
+
+Regards,
+Buchan
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+<PRE>Le lundi 25 octobre 2010 &#224; 10:24 +0100, Buchan Milne a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Sunday, 24 October 2010 11:58:26 Olivier Thauvin wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * Michael Scherer (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; so now the server are in place, we have to install them. Here is a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; proposal of the needed services :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Then we need to deploy the basic infrastructure for us. Again, I assume
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; that no one is against apache :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; - ldap ( valstar or alamut ? )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At this stage, I am thinking that we may want 3 servers running LDAP:
+</I>&gt;<i> -Master LDAP server, which is primarily not used by read-only clients. I
+</I>&gt;<i> haven't tested referrals yet in my app, so for now CatDap will probably need
+</I>&gt;<i> to use it. Could possibly be used as fall-back for either of the slaves
+</I>&gt;<i> -1 slave used primarily for infrastructure support, but not exposed to much
+</I>&gt;<i> external traffic. Mostly nss_ldap/pam_ldap on build hosts, and any other
+</I>&gt;<i> infrastructure stuff which we decide to put in LDAP. If the total userbase is
+</I>&gt;<i> too large we could consider a partial replica (e.g. only posixAccount
+</I>&gt;<i> entries), though we may need to test this a bit ...
+</I>&gt;<i> -1 slave used primarily for external traffic, e.g. forum, wiki etc. This could
+</I>&gt;<i> be the web server running some of these applications.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If this is excessive, we could consider combining master and internal read
+</I>&gt;<i> access on one server (but I would prefer to have at least one fall-back
+</I>
+For the moment, we have 5 servers, so for the beggining, it may indeed
+be too much. So basically, ldap master on valstar ( ie, svn hdlist,
+etc ) and external on alamut ?
+
+And later, a ldap slave on the server used for forum ?
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; May I suggest to setup all our web on same server, especially since a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; lot use perl-Catalyst (buchan's one, epoll and the one I did to manage
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mirror).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; May I also suggest all our web be installed using RPM ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Notice I got some issue using catalyst in fcgi mod, but it works fine in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; server mode + apache as proxy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I will try and create a package today. I think all the dependencies should be
+</I>&gt;<i> available for Mdv2010.0 and up. However, if we want to have any contributions
+</I>&gt;<i> (skinning work from web team, localisations) with quick testing, it may be
+</I>&gt;<i> useful to run one instance from an svn checkout.
+</I>
+Ie, have a production instance and a devel instance ?
+
+Nothing prevent us from doing rpm from svn snapshot at regular interval
+too.
+
+&gt;<i> BTW., do we want to run these apps on separate virtual hosts? Should I ship
+</I>&gt;<i> vhost definition in apache config (e.g. for identity.mageia.org)?
+</I>
+I would say &quot;yes&quot;
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; - create account for us.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Set up host authentication to LDAP first? We will need SSL certificates for
+</I>&gt;<i> LDAP hosts as well. Self-signed certs or certs from self-signed CA are fine.
+</I>
+Ok.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Yup, especially if we have to work on them :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have created some accounts in LDAP, and I am happy to create any we need to
+</I>&gt;<i> proceed to the point where the account registration portion of CatDap is
+</I>&gt;<i> running. However, I think we may want to get internal use of it (for
+</I>&gt;<i> registration) before opening the gates ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, I probably need to start work on the admin features, for now I am
+</I>&gt;<i> planning:
+</I>&gt;<i> -user modification (e.g. add posixAccount to existing user account, modify any
+</I>&gt;<i> attributes necessary manually,
+</I>&gt;<i> -group management (add groups, modify group membership etc.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please let me know what other features are important sooner than later.
+</I>
+ssh keys support ( as I think we will use it for us ) ? After a second
+tought, we can do it by hand,
+
+I also think notification of subscription could be interesting, but
+again, we may not need it now.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; then the rest is less prioritary :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; - postfix ( alamut )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; - migrate to sympa ( alamut )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; - enter everybody in the ldap
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; - nagios/munin ( or similar ) ( alamut )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> xymon?
+</I>
+yup, why, as long it is packaged, i am ok.
+
+
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+
+so a quick report.
+
+Valstar is back, thanks to Sylvain Rochet ( gradator ).
+It seems that the firewall was misconfigurated.
+
+So on 23/10/2010, I connected on the server to remove unused services
+( avahi, mandi, dbus, etc ). I have also removed shorewall, as we
+disabled it on all servers at the moment ( I am more familiar with a
+regular iptables initscripts ).
+
+Except that removing shorewall run service shorewall stop, which in turn
+activate the firewall.
+
+All servers except one ( valstar ) had shorewall correctly turned off by
+Pascal ( maat ). I took care of valstar, but i just disabled the service
+with chkconfig. So once I removed the package, it started to drop
+everything in INPUT.
+According to the logs, this happened around 15h30 CEST
+
+Oct 23 15:28:59 valstar logger: Shorewall Stopped
+
+Since I was still logged in, I didn't see anything wrong ( as I assume
+that the firewall will not cut working connection )
+
+But after that, trying to connect again showed me a error.
+
+We ( dams and I ) decided to wait until monday ( as we couldn't do
+anything when the DC was closed, and I was sick, so did maat ), and
+discussed with gradator today, and decided that it was easiest to ask
+for a reboot than to ask to maat to go to marseille this evening.
+
+On 25/10/2010, at 15:30 ( again ), gradator looked at the server, see it
+was a firewall issue, rebooted it without firewall and so the server is
+now ok.
+
+I inspected it, it work fine, there is no firewall rules loaded upon
+startup so the problem should not repeat itself.
+
+So, while I recognize I am at fault for this, I think that the shorewall
+package have a unexpected side effect, and IMVHO, it should not setup a
+restrictive firewall when we remove it ( and I do not say this only
+because I am ashamed of causing the problem ).
+
+In the future, how could we avoid problem like this ?
+
+Easiest answer is to have servers with RAC, but we don't except on
+alamut. I am not sure we can add one if we manage to get one.
+
+Another solution is a serial cable. But this can be tricky to set up
+( we did for zarb )
+
+WDYT ?
+--
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+wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> But as I know that some people are likely to be interested into getting
+</I>&gt;<i> news about that ( like rda, for instance, as he tried to subscribed to
+</I>&gt;<i> this list and expressed interest about it ), does people think we should
+</I>&gt;<i> let everybody subscribe on this list ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would be in favor of this, because it would in the continuity of what
+</I>&gt;<i> we did ( ie, open the archives, etc ), but I do not want to do so
+</I>&gt;<i> without the input of the others, as people may have a different PoV on
+</I>&gt;<i> the subject.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So WDYT ?
+</I>
+I agree with your POV.
+--
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+<PRE>Hi fellow admins,
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+In order to let you rui^W crash^W manage the server like I did, I need
+your ssh keys to be sent here.
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+So if you didn't already do ( ie, if you are not nanar, not coincoin and
+not me ), please sent it to me.
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:53:25 +0200, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But as I know that some people are likely to be interested into getting
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> news about that ( like rda, for instance, as he tried to subscribed to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this list and expressed interest about it ), does people think we should
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> let everybody subscribe on this list ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I would be in favor of this, because it would in the continuity of what
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we did ( ie, open the archives, etc ), but I do not want to do so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> without the input of the others, as people may have a different PoV on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the subject.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So WDYT ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree with your POV.
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+&gt;<i> Hi fellow admins,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In order to let you rui^W crash^W manage the server like I did, I need
+</I>&gt;<i> your ssh keys to be sent here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So if you didn't already do ( ie, if you are not nanar, not coincoin and
+</I>&gt;<i> not me ), please sent it to me.
+</I>
+Hello,
+
+Please find mine attached
+
+Thanks!
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+<PRE>On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi fellow admins,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In order to let you rui^W crash^W manage the server like I did, I need
+</I>&gt;<i> your ssh keys to be sent here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So if you didn't already do ( ie, if you are not nanar, not coincoin and
+</I>&gt;<i> not me ), please sent it to me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Michael Scherer
+</I>
+Hello,
+
+Please find mine attached
+
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+---
+Thanks!
+Dexter Morgan
+Bug serial Killer
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 25/10/10 21:04 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hi fellow admins,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In order to let you rui^W crash^W manage the server like I did, I need
+</I>&gt;<i> your ssh keys to be sent here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So if you didn't already do ( ie, if you are not nanar, not coincoin and
+</I>&gt;<i> not me ), please sent it to me.
+</I>
+Here is mine.
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+<PRE>On Mon, 25 Oct 2010, Michael Scherer wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> valstar is still down. I will contact LO soon, and see with maat about
+</I>&gt;<i> getting in the DC, and post a report. I also discussed with dams, and he
+</I>&gt;<i> told me he was the one who rebooted alamut to check something, so the
+</I>&gt;<i> hypothesis about a power shortage is likely wrong, and so we think it is
+</I>&gt;<i> a kernel panic ( and we didn't have the time to setup the magic sysctl
+</I>&gt;<i> setting to reboot after kernel panic ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But as I know that some people are likely to be interested into getting
+</I>&gt;<i> news about that ( like rda, for instance, as he tried to subscribed to
+</I>&gt;<i> this list and expressed interest about it ), does people think we should
+</I>&gt;<i> let everybody subscribe on this list ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would be in favor of this, because it would in the continuity of what
+</I>&gt;<i> we did ( ie, open the archives, etc ), but I do not want to do so
+</I>&gt;<i> without the input of the others, as people may have a different PoV on
+</I>&gt;<i> the subject.
+</I>
+I also agree about opening subscriptions, as this list is for public
+discussions, this will be more convenient for readers.
+
+When the new mail server is setup, we can also have a sysadm alias to
+contact sysadmin team members only, if needed.
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+Nicolas
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> so a quick report.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Valstar is back, thanks to Sylvain Rochet ( gradator ).
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems that the firewall was misconfigurated.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So on 23/10/2010, I connected on the server to remove unused services
+</I>&gt;<i> ( avahi, mandi, dbus, etc ). I have also removed shorewall, as we
+</I>&gt;<i> disabled it on all servers at the moment ( I am more familiar with a
+</I>&gt;<i> regular iptables initscripts ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Except that removing shorewall run service shorewall stop, which in turn
+</I>&gt;<i> activate the firewall.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All servers except one ( valstar ) had shorewall correctly turned off by
+</I>&gt;<i> Pascal ( maat ). I took care of valstar, but i just disabled the service
+</I>&gt;<i> with chkconfig. So once I removed the package, it started to drop
+</I>&gt;<i> everything in INPUT.
+</I>&gt;<i> According to the logs, this happened around 15h30 CEST
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oct 23 15:28:59 valstar logger: Shorewall Stopped
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Since I was still logged in, I didn't see anything wrong ( as I assume
+</I>&gt;<i> that the firewall will not cut working connection )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But after that, trying to connect again showed me a error.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We ( dams and I ) decided to wait until monday ( as we couldn't do
+</I>&gt;<i> anything when the DC was closed, and I was sick, so did maat ), and
+</I>&gt;<i> discussed with gradator today, and decided that it was easiest to ask
+</I>&gt;<i> for a reboot than to ask to maat to go to marseille this evening.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 25/10/2010, at 15:30 ( again ), gradator looked at the server, see it
+</I>&gt;<i> was a firewall issue, rebooted it without firewall and so the server is
+</I>&gt;<i> now ok.
+</I>
+The shorewall package had been reinstalled ?
+
+&gt;<i> I inspected it, it work fine, there is no firewall rules loaded upon
+</I>&gt;<i> startup so the problem should not repeat itself.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, while I recognize I am at fault for this, I think that the shorewall
+</I>&gt;<i> package have a unexpected side effect, and IMVHO, it should not setup a
+</I>&gt;<i> restrictive firewall when we remove it ( and I do not say this only
+</I>&gt;<i> because I am ashamed of causing the problem ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In the future, how could we avoid problem like this ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Easiest answer is to have servers with RAC, but we don't except on
+</I>&gt;<i> alamut. I am not sure we can add one if we manage to get one.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Another solution is a serial cable. But this can be tricky to set up
+</I>&gt;<i> ( we did for zarb )
+</I>
+Regarding this issue, we can have a default firewall config deployed by
+puppet. Maybe puppet can also be useful to recover access to machines
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, 25 Oct 2010, Michael Scherer wrote:
+</I>
+&gt;<i> &gt; On 25/10/2010, at 15:30 ( again ), gradator looked at the server, see it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; was a firewall issue, rebooted it without firewall and so the server is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; now ok.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The shorewall package had been reinstalled ?
+</I>
+No. I removed because I wanted to avoid side effect, but I guess I was
+too paranoid.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; In the future, how could we avoid problem like this ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Easiest answer is to have servers with RAC, but we don't except on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; alamut. I am not sure we can add one if we manage to get one.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Another solution is a serial cable. But this can be tricky to set up
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ( we did for zarb )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regarding this issue, we can have a default firewall config deployed by
+</I>&gt;<i> puppet. Maybe puppet can also be useful to recover access to machines
+</I>&gt;<i> in some cases.
+</I>
+Yep.
+Like commiting a crontask that clean the firewall :p
+
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+<PRE>On Sun, 24 Oct 2010, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> May I also suggest all our web be installed using RPM ?
+</I>
+I am not sure RPM is the best tool to manage web applications in our
+case, especially for the ones that change often :
+ - it requires root permissions to be updated (or giving sudo access to
+ update the rpm, but this is equivalent to giving root access), and we
+ probably want the web team to be able to update some web applications
+ by themself.
+ - sometimes we may need to have different versions of the same
+ applications installed in different paths (one for testing, one for
+ production for instance. Or if we need different blogs or wiki
+ instances)
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+For some web applications it won't be a problem to use an RPM, but for
+others maybe not.
+
+Nicolas
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, 24 Oct 2010, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> May I also suggest all our web be installed using RPM ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am not sure RPM is the best tool to manage web applications in our
+</I>&gt;<i> case, especially for the ones that change often :
+</I>&gt;<i> - it requires root permissions to be updated (or giving sudo access to
+</I>&gt;<i> update the rpm, but this is equivalent to giving root access), and we
+</I>&gt;<i> probably want the web team to be able to update some web applications
+</I>&gt;<i> by themself.
+</I>&gt;<i> - sometimes we may need to have different versions of the same
+</I>&gt;<i> applications installed in different paths (one for testing, one for
+</I>&gt;<i> production for instance. Or if we need different blogs or wiki
+</I>&gt;<i> instances)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For some web applications it won't be a problem to use an RPM, but for
+</I>&gt;<i> others maybe not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nicolas
+</I>
+boklm president!
+
+I entirely agree with nicolas.
+For me, Web apps and RPMs are not necessary a good thing.
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, 24 Oct 2010, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> May I also suggest all our web be installed using RPM ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am not sure RPM is the best tool to manage web applications in our
+</I>&gt;<i> case, especially for the ones that change often :
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- it requires root permissions to be updated (or giving sudo access to
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; update the rpm, but this is equivalent to giving root access), and we
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; probably want the web team to be able to update some web applications
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; by themself.
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- sometimes we may need to have different versions of the same
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; applications installed in different paths (one for testing, one for
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; production for instance. Or if we need different blogs or wiki
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; instances)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For some web applications it won't be a problem to use an RPM, but for
+</I>&gt;<i> others maybe not.
+</I>
+I second that. Managing web apps is more likely to happen as:
+ * dev/test on local machines, by anyone
+ * commit/deploy/validate to staging server, triggered by anyone on the team,
+ * commit/deploy on production server, triggered by any webmaster.
+
+So svn/git/rsync (or such tools) will be used. RPM is not really a
+practicable option here, but maybe for very specific apps that will
+not be retouched at all.
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Romain d'Alverny at 26/10/10 13:43 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> So svn/git/rsync (or such tools) will be used. RPM is not really a
+</I>&gt;<i> practicable option here, but maybe for very specific apps that will
+</I>&gt;<i> not be retouched at all.
+</I>
+Yeah, I definitely agree here. I think using certain
+components/dependencies of webapps from RPMs is OK (I'm guessing a lot
+of the perl stuff, Zend Framework, pear etc.), but I never use the
+webapps themselves from RPM packages.
+
+Running test upgrades and sandboxes etc. is nigh on impossible via an
+RPM route and sometimes massive incompatibilities can result (e.g.
+upgrading from Joomla 1.0.x to 1.5.x will break your site completely
+unless you prepare it specifically beforehand!)
+
+So I'd certainly be in favour of using git or svn (preferably the former).
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+cguthrie(at)mandriva.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>]
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>]
+ PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>]
+ Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>]
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+<PRE>Le mardi 26 octobre 2010 &#224; 14:35 +0200, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Sun, 24 Oct 2010, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; May I also suggest all our web be installed using RPM ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am not sure RPM is the best tool to manage web applications in our
+</I>&gt;<i> case, especially for the ones that change often :
+</I>&gt;<i> - it requires root permissions to be updated (or giving sudo access to
+</I>&gt;<i> update the rpm, but this is equivalent to giving root access), and we
+</I>&gt;<i> probably want the web team to be able to update some web applications
+</I>&gt;<i> by themself.
+</I>
+Well, that's a question of giving permissions, not using rpm or not.
+
+And that's a question that I think I have already asked on irc when we
+devised the team, what is the role of the web team exactly regarding our
+servers and the software and how do we articulate with them.
+
+Ie, who is in charge of the following :
+- setup of web application
+ - apache side
+ - filesystem side
+ - database side
+
+- setup of infrastructure ( ie apache module)
+
+- who is in charge of securing
+ - the servers
+ - each applications
+
+- who is in charge of backuping
+ - the server
+ - the applications
+
+Is everything taken care of the sysadm team, in which case no permission
+should be given to webteam, or some part of this are ( beware, because
+some part are dependent, ie people who setup a application take care of
+the security and of bugfixing it ), and so will the sysadm team act like
+a shared server provider toward various member of the community ?
+
+And if we choose the path of a shared server provider, shall the web
+team alone be able to have a web site, or should we open the possibility
+to others team to do so ? ( ie, if the designers want to setup a custom
+webapp, who shall take care of that ? )
+
+
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 15:23, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> And that's a question that I think I have already asked on irc when we
+</I>&gt;<i> devised the team, what is the role of the web team exactly regarding our
+</I>&gt;<i> servers and the software and how do we articulate with them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ie, who is in charge of the following :
+</I>&gt;<i> - setup of web application
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- apache side
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- filesystem side
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- database side
+</I>
+Sysadm. Per request of webteam.
+
+&gt;<i> - setup of infrastructure ( ie apache module)
+</I>
+Sysadm. Per request of webteam.
+
+&gt;<i> - who is in charge of securing
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- the servers
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- each applications
+</I>
+Both. Server security is going to be affected by application security
+and this is the webteam role to control that part. And to assume/fix
+potential issues.
+
+&gt;<i> - who is in charge of backuping
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- the server
+</I>
+sysadm.
+
+&gt;<i> &#160;- the applications
+</I>
+Webteam. Destroying and restoring a webapp must be a process taken
+into account at their level. Doesn't prevent sysadmins to be able to
+run it as well.
+
+It's likely going to be a back-and-forth process but ideally, the
+webteam would ask, for a given web app, for:
+ - a database type and access (with expected usage size),
+ - a vhost (provided it's not under an existing vhost),
+ - a web repository where to put and update files (so they must have a
+write access on this),
+ - a specific Apache config,
+ - a read access to related Apache logs
+ - a list of needed modules (PHP, Ruby, Perl, others)
+
+And should be able to work with this.
+
+However we can think to future provision to some webteam people
+(webmasters for instance) extended rights (Apache config write access,
+reloading Apache, extended rights on database). Depends on situation
+and roles.
+
+&gt;<i> Is everything taken care of the sysadm team, in which case no permission
+</I>&gt;<i> should be given to webteam, or some part of this are ( beware, because
+</I>&gt;<i> some part are dependent, ie people who setup a application take care of
+</I>&gt;<i> the security and of bugfixing it ), and so will the sysadm team act like
+</I>&gt;<i> a shared server provider toward various member of the community ?
+</I>
+More like a shared-server provider. However situation may differ from
+web app to web app. Don't know for sure yet. But as a start, I would
+go per the process described above.
+
+&gt;<i> And if we choose the path of a shared server provider, shall the web
+</I>&gt;<i> team alone be able to have a web site, or should we open the possibility
+</I>&gt;<i> to others team to do so ? ( ie, if the designers want to setup a custom
+</I>&gt;<i> webapp, who shall take care of that ? )
+</I>
+They should see that with the webteam or be part of it. That's the
+place where all Web-related stuff (be it technical or not) should be
+gathered and discussed.
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>* Romain d'Alverny (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 15:23, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> Sysadm. Per request of webteam.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - setup of infrastructure ( ie apache module)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sysadm. Per request of webteam.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - who is in charge of securing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;- the servers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;- each applications
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Both. Server security is going to be affected by application security
+</I>&gt;<i> and this is the webteam role to control that part. And to assume/fix
+</I>&gt;<i> potential issues.
+</I>
+From the experience I had with epoll, seting-up the application were
+complicated in past due by the lack of dependencies in the rpm or on
+perl side.
+Epoll need a lot of perl module, mainly because Catalyst is splitted in
+several part.
+
+I solved the issue since (on both perl side and rpm side).
+
+Since you prefer to not using rpm, the work to setup such application
+get more complicated, especially if the sys admin don't know perl (in
+this case, the same apply to php apps, python, etc...).
+
+I don't like the &quot;svn snapshot&quot; way for officially in use web apps. It
+works for testing the devel version, but I'd really hope anyone
+working on web apps is able to have a clear roadmap and managing branch
+for quick security fixes.
+And since you have a stable branch and a devel one, you are able to
+quickly redo a rpm.
+
+Or are we assuming Mageia will not be able to provide security fixes as
+rpm for anyone using the distribution and so we prefer ourself to bypass
+them ?
+
+BTW: who is the webteam ? Does CatDap (Buchan's apps) and MGA::Mirrors
+(mine) make us entering in webteam ? Is the Bs part of webteam works ?
+
+--
+
+Olivier Thauvin
+CNRS - LATMOS
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+<PRE>On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 16:06, Olivier Thauvin
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> * Romain d'Alverny (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 15:23, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sysadm. Per request of webteam.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - setup of infrastructure ( ie apache module)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sysadm. Per request of webteam.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - who is in charge of securing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;- the servers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;- each applications
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Both. Server security is going to be affected by application security
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and this is the webteam role to control that part. And to assume/fix
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> potential issues.
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> Since you prefer to not using rpm, the work to setup such application
+</I>&gt;<i> get more complicated, especially if the sys admin don't know perl (in
+</I>&gt;<i> this case, the same apply to php apps, python, etc...).
+</I>
+I know this firsthand, from both sides, yes. That's the webteam
+responsibility to provide this info for installing/upgrading the app,
+and that partially requires from the webteam some knowledge about the
+system.
+
+So indeed, both teams need to know/understand each other.
+
+&gt;<i> I don't like the &quot;svn snapshot&quot; way for officially in use web apps. It
+</I>&gt;<i> works for testing the devel version, but I'd really hope anyone
+</I>&gt;<i> working on web apps is able to have a clear roadmap and managing branch
+</I>&gt;<i> for quick security fixes.
+</I>
+Sure. But it happens to break nonetheless. What is crucial is not that
+there is no breach (there will), it's that it is quickly reported and
+fixed.
+
+&gt;<i> And since you have a stable branch and a devel one, you are able to
+</I>&gt;<i> quickly redo a rpm.
+</I>
+I understand that but a RPM is an unnecessary step here IMHO. A web
+app/development life cycle in dev/production is not the same as one
+for a packaged app for a distribution.
+
+All I care here as a Web dev/project manager is:
+ - working on the app
+ - making sure it works
+ - pushing to prod
+ - check again
+ - iterate.
+
+Pushing deployment from dev to production, assuming all tests pass,
+should be ideally as fast as pushing a single button and waiting for a
+few seconds. And it may not be a trivial thing either (not just
+pushing files, but moving the app into several states for a clean
+migration).
+
+At some extent, RPM dependencies would be a useful thing for setting
+up the application but this mostly happens once (first install) and
+can be easily hosted within the web application itself (and then
+handle the error) - WordPress and Drupal do it for instance.
+
+I perfectly understand that this does not fit with the packaging
+reasoning for a Linux distribution.
+
+
+&gt;<i> Or are we assuming Mageia will not be able to provide security fixes as
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm for anyone using the distribution and so we prefer ourself to bypass
+</I>&gt;<i> them ?
+</I>
+Not related. If these are regular web apps, we may as well port
+changes and fixes back to the upstream project (be it our own) and
+have these repackaged. But packaging is not the focus of the webteam.
+
+
+&gt;<i> BTW: who is the webteam ? Does CatDap (Buchan's apps) and MGA::Mirrors
+</I>&gt;<i> (mine) make us entering in webteam ? Is the Bs part of webteam works ?
+</I>
+The webteam, well, I'm preparing to shoot a first mail to people who
+gathered on the wiki page; mostly developers and web integrators.
+Nothing definitive, but I'm a volunteer to lead the first efforts for
+the team.
+
+About CatDap and MGA:Mirrors, yes, hopefully. That makes you part of
+it in that other webteam members should be aware of this app and
+reciprocally, all members should collaborate.
+
+The BS is a separate kind of a beast but indeed, parts of it could
+definitely benefit from web team developers/integrators (code,
+organisation, design/graphics/UX levels).
+
+So we can discuss this further with other future webteam members but I
+will seriously not manage a production environment that goes through
+packaging for app updates.
+
+That does not mean I don't care about security - that means that
+there's a balance to find and that web developers have to be in charge
+of their apps security as well. So if that means we need to have
+separate servers to isolate risks, so be it. If that means we need to
+go for a different type of hosting, so be it.
+
+And I don't say that harshly. :-p just in case.
+
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>On Tue, 26 Oct 2010, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> From the experience I had with epoll, seting-up the application were
+</I>&gt;<i> complicated in past due by the lack of dependencies in the rpm or on
+</I>&gt;<i> perl side.
+</I>&gt;<i> Epoll need a lot of perl module, mainly because Catalyst is splitted in
+</I>&gt;<i> several part.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I solved the issue since (on both perl side and rpm side).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Since you prefer to not using rpm, the work to setup such application
+</I>&gt;<i> get more complicated, especially if the sys admin don't know perl (in
+</I>&gt;<i> this case, the same apply to php apps, python, etc...).
+</I>
+It's not &quot;not using rpm at all for any web apps&quot;. I think we can use RPM
+packages when it's more convenient. In some cases such as epoll, it can
+be more convenient to use an RPM. But not in all cases. I think it
+depends on the application, and how we use it.
+
+For the main mageia.org website for instance, do we want to use a
+package that we will have to update, rebuild, and ask an admin to
+install it, each time someone in the web team wants to fix a typo ?
+
+Nicolas
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+<PRE>Le lundi 25 octobre 2010 &#224; 22:04 +0200, Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi fellow admins,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In order to let you rui^W crash^W manage the server like I did, I need
+</I>&gt;<i> your ssh keys to be sent here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So if you didn't already do ( ie, if you are not nanar, not coincoin and
+</I>&gt;<i> not me ), please sent it to me.
+</I>
+I have added the keys that were sent to me in puppet ( without svn or
+anything yet, nothing fancy ).
+
+So, a quick ( well, not so quick ) explanation of what I did :
+1) setup puppetmaster ( ie, the reference ) on valstar :
+
+ urpmi puppet-server
+ create some files in /etc/puppet/manifests/
+
+ site.pp , who just reference the 2 others :
+
+ [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at valstar</A> manifests]# ls
+ common.pp nodes.pp site.pp
+ [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at valstar</A> manifests]# cat site.pp
+ import &quot;common&quot;
+ import &quot;nodes&quot;
+
+ nodes.pp (arbitrary name ) contains the list of nodes, and their
+ class ( here, only one class, default_mageia_server, defined in
+common ):
+
+ node alamut {
+ include default_mageia_server
+ }
+
+in common.pp, we have this class :
+
+class default_mageia_server {
+ include default_ssh_root_key
+ include base_packages
+}
+
+which lead me to the 2 first type of thing we will do with puppet
+1) packages installation :
+
+class base_packages {
+
+ $package_list = ['screen', 'vim-enhanced']
+
+ package { $package_list:
+ ensure =&gt; installed;
+ }
+}
+
+basically, this mean that screen and vim-enhanced will be installed by
+default, using urpmi ( or the appropriate tool depending on the OS ), on
+every server. Add packages if needed, please keep the comment I have
+added about who requested what and why, if not obvious ( first one to
+install kde will be killed so hard that even his ancestors will die (tm)
+sinfest ).
+
+We can also use this to ensure a package is never installed ( just cut
+and past the class, and change the list, and the ensure value. See
+puppet doc for that .
+
+2) ssh_keys installation.
+
+Like packages, there is a type for ssh keys :
+
+class default_ssh_root_key {
+ ssh_authorized_key { &quot;ssh key misc&quot;:
+ type =&gt; &quot;ssh-rsa&quot;,
+ key =&gt; &quot;insert-real-long-key-here&quot;,
+ user =&gt; &quot;root&quot;
+ }
+ ssh_authorized_key { &quot;ssh key blino&quot;:
+ type =&gt; &quot;ssh-dss&quot;,
+ key =&gt; &quot;insert-real-longer-and-stronger-bigger-blino-key-here&quot;,
+ user =&gt; &quot;root&quot;
+ }
+}
+
+this mean that my key ( and blino's one ) is added to the proper file
+directly, with correct permission. I have added blino, nanar, dmorgan,
+coling, dams and me. Others didn't send it yet.
+
+
+that's for the basic part. Puppetmaster reload itself when it detect the
+config change. And it refuse invalid config in case of problem as does
+the puppet agent on each node.
+
+
+So next, on each server ( the 4 one in LO, I am taking care of the gandi
+vm as soon as I finished to write this mail ), I have setup the puppet
+agent :
+
+
+2) setup puppet
+for each node :
+
+ urpmi puppet
+ vim /etc/puppet/puppet.conf ( add a &quot;server = valstar.mageia.org&quot;
+ entry in [puppetd], will likely be taken care by puppet itself
+ later )
+ service puppet start
+
+on valstar, to authenticate the request ( ie, when puppet is started, it
+exchanges ssl certs with the master to encrypt future exchange ).
+
+puppetca --list
+puppetca --sign server
+
+on the node that just signed :
+tail -f /var/log/messages, see there is no error, and test that we can
+still connect as root.
+Beware, this changed with puppet 2.6 some months ago, so i suggest
+people to read the documentation if they read this mail after the end of
+2010 :).
+
+If you have any questions on how to use puppet after this quick
+introduction, do not hesitate to ping me on irc, or better here so
+everybody will get the answer.
+
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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+
+I have opened a irc channel ( #mageia-sysadm, as that's the name of the
+team, and I propose to try to keep this convention ), so we can discuss
+more easily on irc than the rather scathered discussion we have
+( between #mageia, #mageia-fr, private discussion, #lost-oasis,
+#mageia-meeting ).
+
+I would also propose that we discuss about how we decide who does what.
+
+IE, someone want to take care of something, it send a email about &quot;i
+will do this&quot;, do it, and send a email &quot;i did this&quot; ( if we don't
+forget ).
+
+
+--
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, WDYT ?
+</I>&gt;<i> ( please do not let me be warnocked
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warnocked">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warnocked</A> )
+</I>
+I agree with your email. I think that if nobody is against this, we can
+go with this.
+
+First we need the basic puppet config and organisation, to let different
+people start working on some services.
+
+I created the directory svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/adm/puppet.">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/adm/puppet.</A> In this
+directory we have the subdirectory &quot;manifests&quot; to be checked out in
+/etc/puppet/manifests and &quot;modules&quot; to be checked out in
+/etc/puppet/modules.
+
+Do you know any good puppet configuration examples ?
+This one is interesting :
+<A HREF="http://www.example42.com/puppet/browseinfrastructures.php">http://www.example42.com/puppet/browseinfrastructures.php</A>
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+Nicolas
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have opened a irc channel ( #mageia-sysadm, as that's the name of the
+</I>&gt;<i> team, and I propose to try to keep this convention ), so we can discuss
+</I>&gt;<i> more easily on irc than the rather scathered discussion we have
+</I>&gt;<i> ( between #mageia, #mageia-fr, private discussion, #lost-oasis,
+</I>&gt;<i> #mageia-meeting ).
+</I>
+And I also forgot, I have activated a logging bot I have prepared
+before, ( Muet_d_hiver, Wintermute translated in french ). It is based
+on supybot ( like the meetbot instance in #mageia-meeting ) and for now,
+it just log in some directories.
+
+But I was planning to put the log in a website, as there is likely some
+people who do not use screen/tmux + irssi/etc and therefore will miss
+some discussions ( for example, rda, or member of the webteam, or
+severine, or people outside mageia like gradator ), and it is also
+easier to reference.
+
+If someone is against, do not hesitate to tell why so we can tweak the
+setup or remove it ( it also log #mageia-council, -dev and -board, who
+are quite unused but registered some weeks ago for the futur, I didn't
+really wanted to add it elsewhere without the consent of others users,
+or the legitimacy to do so, ie, it will have to be seen with the irc
+council )
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+&gt;<i> Le mardi 26 octobre 2010 &#224; 17:29 +0200, Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have opened a irc channel ( #mageia-sysadm, as that's the name of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> team, and I propose to try to keep this convention ), so we can discuss
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> more easily on irc than the rather scathered discussion we have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ( between #mageia, #mageia-fr, private discussion, #lost-oasis,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> #mageia-meeting ).
+</I>
+Ok.
+
+&gt;<i> And I also forgot, I have activated a logging bot I have prepared
+</I>&gt;<i> before, ( Muet_d_hiver, Wintermute translated in french ). It is based
+</I>&gt;<i> on supybot ( like the meetbot instance in #mageia-meeting ) and for now,
+</I>&gt;<i> it just log in some directories.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But I was planning to put the log in a website, as there is likely some
+</I>&gt;<i> people who do not use screen/tmux + irssi/etc and therefore will miss
+</I>&gt;<i> some discussions ( for example, rda, or member of the webteam, or
+</I>&gt;<i> severine, or people outside mageia like gradator ), and it is also
+</I>&gt;<i> easier to reference.
+</I>
+Ok for me. If we could add an action into it so that it could
+highlight points of discussions (a bit like meetbot, but without the
+session open/close. Not sure if this is clear, I'll try to draft it
+otherwise.
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+&gt;<i> Le mardi 26 octobre 2010 &#224; 17:29 +0200, Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have opened a irc channel ( #mageia-sysadm, as that's the name of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> team, and I propose to try to keep this convention ), so we can discuss
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> more easily on irc than the rather scathered discussion we have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ( between #mageia, #mageia-fr, private discussion, #lost-oasis,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> #mageia-meeting ).
+</I>
+Ok.
+
+&gt;<i> And I also forgot, I have activated a logging bot I have prepared
+</I>&gt;<i> before, ( Muet_d_hiver, Wintermute translated in french ). It is based
+</I>&gt;<i> on supybot ( like the meetbot instance in #mageia-meeting ) and for now,
+</I>&gt;<i> it just log in some directories.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But I was planning to put the log in a website, as there is likely some
+</I>&gt;<i> people who do not use screen/tmux + irssi/etc and therefore will miss
+</I>&gt;<i> some discussions ( for example, rda, or member of the webteam, or
+</I>&gt;<i> severine, or people outside mageia like gradator ), and it is also
+</I>&gt;<i> easier to reference.
+</I>
+Ok for me. If we could add an action into it so that it could
+highlight points of discussions (a bit like meetbot, but without the
+session open/close. Not sure if this is clear, I'll try to draft it
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+Romain
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> so now the server are in place, we have to install them. Here is a
+</I>&gt;<i> proposal of the needed services :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> so as said on the blog, one of the first task should be to migrate dns
+</I>&gt;<i> from zarb to mageia.org.
+</I>&gt;<i> - primary dns ( on alamut )
+</I>&gt;<i> - secondary dns ( at gandi )
+</I>
+As we want to store the DNS config (and everything) in puppet, I think
+the first thing needed now is the main puppet configuration and
+structure.
+
+We can use the temporary svn for now to store puppet config (until the
+real svn is available, which will requires LDAP).
+
+Then we can have everybody working on the different services setup in
+puppet.
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+<PRE>Le mardi 26 octobre 2010 &#224; 18:00 +0200, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Sat, 23 Oct 2010, Michael Scherer wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; so now the server are in place, we have to install them. Here is a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; proposal of the needed services :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; so as said on the blog, one of the first task should be to migrate dns
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; from zarb to mageia.org.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - primary dns ( on alamut )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - secondary dns ( at gandi )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As we want to store the DNS config (and everything) in puppet, I think
+</I>&gt;<i> the first thing needed now is the main puppet configuration and
+</I>&gt;<i> structure.
+</I>
+ok, I will work on it.
+
+&gt;<i> We can use the temporary svn for now to store puppet config (until the
+</I>&gt;<i> real svn is available, which will requires LDAP).
+</I>
+Ok for me.
+
+&gt;<i> Then we can have everybody working on the different services setup in
+</I>&gt;<i> puppet.
+</I>
+Well, we can also let people setup first ( and document ) and then
+migrate and let people learn puppet in the mean time ( for example, with
+some kind of paid programming, one that know puppet and that edit the
+file and explain to the other one how he achieve the same result in
+puppet than doing it by hand ).
+--
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+<PRE>Le mardi 26 octobre 2010 &#224; 17:57 +0200, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; And I also forgot, I have activated a logging bot I have prepared
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; before, ( Muet_d_hiver, Wintermute translated in french ). It is based
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; on supybot ( like the meetbot instance in #mageia-meeting ) and for now,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it just log in some directories.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But I was planning to put the log in a website, as there is likely some
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; people who do not use screen/tmux + irssi/etc and therefore will miss
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; some discussions ( for example, rda, or member of the webteam, or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; severine, or people outside mageia like gradator ), and it is also
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; easier to reference.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok for me. If we could add an action into it so that it could
+</I>&gt;<i> highlight points of discussions (a bit like meetbot, but without the
+</I>&gt;<i> session open/close. Not sure if this is clear, I'll try to draft it
+</I>&gt;<i> otherwise.
+</I>
+I can understand what you mean, but I fear this would requires a supybot
+patch, or a custom plugin, a custom bot.
+( note that I used supybot just because it was installed and as a test,
+and writing irc bot is so trivial that I wrote so far 2 in python, 1 in
+ruby, 2 in perl and 1 in perl 6, and that people wrote irc bot in every
+language I have searched, from x86 asm to php ).
+
+But yes, drafting a set of requirement would be good :
+
+- produce webpage output, one for each day
+ - with a css / templates ?
+ - who can be read easyly ( ie different color for different people )
+ - with proper anchor support ( so link to the web page can be given )
+- produce text output
+- possible to stop logging ( with a prefix like supybot does )
+
+( and the usual &quot;not written in some obscure dialect mixig cobol and
+fortran&quot;, &quot;not taking 3g of ram&quot;, etc ).
+
+But this is not the priority for the moment
+
+--
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+<PRE>2010/10/25 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 25/10/10 21:04 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi fellow admins,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In order to let you rui^W crash^W manage the server like I did, I need
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> your ssh keys to be sent here.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So if you didn't already do ( ie, if you are not nanar, not coincoin and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not me ), please sent it to me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Here is my key.
+
+--
+sev
+
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+<PRE>Le mardi 26 octobre 2010 &#224; 17:41 +0200, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Sun, 24 Oct 2010, Michael Scherer wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So, WDYT ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ( please do not let me be warnocked
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warnocked">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warnocked</A> )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree with your email. I think that if nobody is against this, we can
+</I>&gt;<i> go with this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> First we need the basic puppet config and organisation, to let different
+</I>&gt;<i> people start working on some services.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I created the directory svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/adm/puppet.">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/adm/puppet.</A> In this
+</I>&gt;<i> directory we have the subdirectory &quot;manifests&quot; to be checked out in
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/puppet/manifests and &quot;modules&quot; to be checked out in
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/puppet/modules.
+</I>
+Ok so I setup /etc/puppet/ to auto extracted from this svn each 5
+minutes. I have added the cronjob in puppet, as well as the key of
+severine, and a basic openssh module.
+
+For people who want to commit, connect on krampouezh.mageia.org, create
+yourself a account ( until we migrate to ldap for this ) and you can
+then checkout/commit on it.
+
+We will need to add the ntp setup, some MTA, ( maybe the timezone so we
+will not have issue for the next server ) and then once we have a basic
+MTA, a svn hook to send commit mail here.
+
+Again, if you have any question, do not hesitate.
+
+&gt;<i> Do you know any good puppet configuration examples ?
+</I>&gt;<i> This one is interesting :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.example42.com/puppet/browseinfrastructures.php">http://www.example42.com/puppet/browseinfrastructures.php</A>
+</I>
+I used a too complex setup with numerous empty directory, so I guess no,
+I only found bad example :p
+To me, the current one ( manifests for the configure file, and modules/
+for modules ) is fine at the moment.
+
+I suggest that we first become used to puppet and then decide how to
+split, if needed.
+
+I like the idea of having a directory nodes, with one file per node, and
+for the rest, I do not think it is worth the added complexity at the
+moment.
+
+
+--
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+ <B>J&#233;r&#244;me H&#233;nin</B>
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+<PRE>Hi everyone,
+
+I read that some sysadmins came to Marseille last week to install
+servers in the ielo.net data center. Too bad that I didn't see that
+earlier: I live very close to that place, maybe I could have helped
+with something. I know that being physically close to the servers is
+not often useful, but if there anything I can do, please let me know.
+At least, next time people come here to tend to the servers, I can
+offer a round of drinks, or even a pizza, who knows :-)
+
+Cheers,
+J&#233;r&#244;me
+
+PS: I hope this is not too far off-topic for this list. If it is, I
+apologize. Please flame me off-list to reduce traffic ;-)
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+<PRE>Le mardi 26 octobre 2010 &#224; 23:50 +0200, J&#233;r&#244;me H&#233;nin a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I read that some sysadmins came to Marseille last week to install
+</I>&gt;<i> servers in the ielo.net data center. Too bad that I didn't see that
+</I>&gt;<i> earlier: I live very close to that place, maybe I could have helped
+</I>&gt;<i> with something. I know that being physically close to the servers is
+</I>&gt;<i> not often useful, but if there anything I can do, please let me know.
+</I>&gt;<i> At least, next time people come here to tend to the servers, I can
+</I>&gt;<i> offer a round of drinks, or even a pizza, who knows :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> J&#233;r&#244;me
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS: I hope this is not too far off-topic for this list. If it is, I
+</I>&gt;<i> apologize. Please flame me off-list to reduce traffic ;-)
+</I>
+Hi,
+
+No problem. We already have someone near Marseille ( maat from AUFML, in
+Aix en provence ), and you are the third one to propose your help
+( second being Olivier Faurax, living in La Ciota ). And the Lost Oasis
+people are very helpful, so I doubt we will need to ask you something.
+
+And on friday, we were 4, that was enough to move, mount and setup the
+servers, and we just finished in time ( ie, it was a 1 day mission, not
+much time to chat or drink, unfortunately ).
+But thanks for the offer, we will see next time.
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+
+so, we know have a working ( or I hope so ) DNS master on alamut and a
+slave on krampouezh, for mageia.org and mageia.fr zones.
+
+I copied the file from zarb.org, I only need to check the dns
+replication on krampouezh, and to move the NS from zarb to here ( but
+tomorrow, because as you may see by looking at the svn history, I was
+not really at my best tonight ). The module could likely be improved,
+but I am not fluent enough with the syntax to achieve what I really
+want :/
+
+I have also added ntp synchronisation ( and removed my timezone module
+as it was not working ).
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+
+A summary of this long evening.
+
+We have to start anyway, so I started on valstar.
+
+I did setup the mirror tree here:
+/distrib/mirror
+on a logical volume (distrib) of 1GB mount here:
+/distrib
+
+This tree can be modified in several ways: mount -o bind, ln -s, change
+directory name...
+
+With misc's help I commit everything to allow valstar to be primary
+mirror:
+- a dedicated user &quot;mirror&quot; for the global tree, currently in
+ /etc/passwd but I think this user must go into ldap for nfs share. If
+uid need to be changed, no problem, I'll chown everything. Also if Bs
+have its own user, this is not a problem to chown some part of the tree.
+- rsyncd config, setup from puppet (rsyncd.conf, xinetd)
+- a cron job to update time_stamp file (this file allow to check how a
+ mirror is updated).
+
+At time haven't changed the CNAME to point rsync.mageia.org on valstar,
+but the setup is ready.
+
+Comments welcome of course.
+
+Regards.
+
+--
+
+Olivier Thauvin
+CNRS - LATMOS
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+ <B>Damien Lallement</B>
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> so, we know have a working ( or I hope so ) DNS master on alamut and a
+</I>&gt;<i> slave on krampouezh, for mageia.org and mageia.fr zones.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I copied the file from zarb.org, I only need to check the dns
+</I>&gt;<i> replication on krampouezh, and to move the NS from zarb to here ( but
+</I>&gt;<i> tomorrow, because as you may see by looking at the svn history, I was
+</I>&gt;<i> not really at my best tonight ). The module could likely be improved,
+</I>&gt;<i> but I am not fluent enough with the syntax to achieve what I really
+</I>&gt;<i> want :/
+</I>
+Great
+
+&gt;<i> I have also added ntp synchronisation ( and removed my timezone module
+</I>&gt;<i> as it was not working ).
+</I>
+Erm... Are you sure? :-)
+I have added ntp synchronisation on all servers on monday...
+--
+Damien Lallement
+aka &quot;damsweb&quot; or &quot;coincoin&quot; on IRC and twitter
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+&gt;<i> &gt; I have also added ntp synchronisation ( and removed my timezone module
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; as it was not working ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Erm... Are you sure? :-)
+</I>&gt;<i> I have added ntp synchronisation on all servers on monday...
+</I>
+Yeah, added this in puppet, I was not clear, sorry.
+( ie, if we install a new server, we will get it by default once we add
+it to puppet ).
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+&gt;<i> Hi fellow admins,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In order to let you rui^W crash^W manage the server like I did, I need
+</I>&gt;<i> your ssh keys to be sent here.
+</I>
+Ok, my ssh key.
+
+Thanks
+Nicolas
+
+-------------- next part --------------
+ssh-dss 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 <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at shinagawa</A>
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+<PRE>On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 03:00:32PM +0200, nicolas vigier wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, 25 Oct 2010, Michael Scherer wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi fellow admins,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; In order to let you rui^W crash^W manage the server like I did, I need
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; your ssh keys to be sent here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok, my ssh key.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i> Nicolas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+&gt;<i> ssh-dss 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 <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at shinagawa</A>
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+We need to re-send our ssh key ? :)
+--
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+&gt;<i> We need to re-send our ssh key ? :)
+</I>
+Only if you are a admin, or I would have contacted all packagers, and
+made a announce for that.
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+
+We now have puppet running on the servers thanks to misc.
+
+You can checkout the puppet configuration in svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/adm/puppet">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/adm/puppet</A>
+(or <A HREF="svn://svn.mageia.org/adm/puppet">svn://svn.mageia.org/adm/puppet</A> for anonymous acces).
+
+In puppet/manifests/nodes.pp you can see the list of services that need
+to be configured.
+
+Now we need to see who wants to work on which services.
+
+- LDAP servers and web interface
+ Buchan setup a test server on the gandi VM and developed a web
+ interface. misc plans to work on the setup tomorrow, and I can help
+ too.
+
+- Build system (urli scheduler, youri, iurt on build nodes etc ...)
+ boklm, blino, misc, others ?
+
+- mirror
+ Nanar
+
+- bugzilla
+- mail server (primary and secondary mx)
+- mailing lists server
+- transifex
+- mageia.org web site and blogs
+- pastebin
+- wiki (we need to discuss which software to use)
+- Nagios (and/or other monitoring software)
+
+So, who wants to work on which parts ?
+
+Nicolas
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+database, the wiki, the blogs, the mageia.org website (not now, but
+maybe later), sympa mailing lists, transifex, and maybe others tools
+later.
+
+We can use MySQL (or forks), PostreSQL, or both.
+
+One server for everything, or multiple servers.
+
+Any ideas about this ?
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 28 octobre 2010 &#224; 18:38 +0200, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We now have puppet running on the servers thanks to misc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can checkout the puppet configuration in svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/adm/puppet">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/adm/puppet</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> (or <A HREF="svn://svn.mageia.org/adm/puppet">svn://svn.mageia.org/adm/puppet</A> for anonymous acces).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In puppet/manifests/nodes.pp you can see the list of services that need
+</I>&gt;<i> to be configured.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now we need to see who wants to work on which services.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - LDAP servers and web interface
+</I>&gt;<i> Buchan setup a test server on the gandi VM and developed a web
+</I>&gt;<i> interface. misc plans to work on the setup tomorrow, and I can help
+</I>&gt;<i> too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - Build system (urli scheduler, youri, iurt on build nodes etc ...)
+</I>&gt;<i> boklm, blino, misc, others ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - mirror
+</I>&gt;<i> Nanar
+</I>
+- epoll
+ -&gt; nanar
+
+- svn ( ie, moving them to valstar, and also set proper and decent hook,
+like checking what is commited, send mail, etc, etc ).
+
+
+&gt;<i> - bugzilla
+</I>this includes also trying to import bug from mandriva, or something like
+that, and ldap integration.
+
+&gt;<i> - mail server (primary and secondary mx)
+</I>I can take this part.
+
+&gt;<i> - mailing lists server
+</I>-&gt; sympa, or ennael will kill us :)
+
+&gt;<i> - transifex
+</I>transifex requires a rpm, most packages are in cooker, there is just one
+or two rpm to take from fedora ( with transifex ). Transifex being a
+django application, this can be tricky to deploy. I suggest to use wsgi,
+as :
+1) cgi is slow
+2) mod_python is deprecated ( unfortunatly )
+3) fast-cgi with apache is too complex.
+
+I do not plan to do it soon, but I can give a hand on this, or do it if
+no one do it before me.
+
+&gt;<i> - mageia.org web site and blogs
+</I>this requires working with webteam, so see with rda for details
+
+&gt;<i> - pastebin
+</I>personnaly, I do not think it is a high priority task at the moment, and
+beware, there is almost nothing packaged ( not even distributed I
+think ), yet there is various requirement ( mostly antispam related ).
+
+
+&gt;<i> - wiki (we need to discuss which software to use)
+</I>this is a task that was given to ennael and mrTom, according to last
+meeting
+( <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2010/mageia-meeting.2010-10-25-18.35.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2010/mageia-meeting.2010-10-25-18.35.html</A> )
+
+&gt;<i> - Nagios (and/or other monitoring software)
+</I>
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 28 octobre 2010 &#224; 19:02 +0200, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> We will need an SQL server for bugzilla, the packages maintainers
+</I>&gt;<i> database, the wiki, the blogs, the mageia.org website (not now, but
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe later), sympa mailing lists, transifex, and maybe others tools
+</I>&gt;<i> later.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We can use MySQL (or forks), PostreSQL, or both.
+</I>
+Both.
+
+bugzilla use mysql or postgresql
+
+package db ( if we reuse the one of mandriva ) use mysql
+
+wiki not decided yet
+
+blog use wordpress, so mysql ( postgresql is still experimental )
+
+sympa can use both ( or even anything supported by dbi such as
+<A HREF="http://search.cpan.org/~rehsack/DBD-AnyData-0.110/lib/DBD/AnyData.pm">http://search.cpan.org/~rehsack/DBD-AnyData-0.110/lib/DBD/AnyData.pm</A> )
+
+epoll requires postgresql.
+
+our current perl webapp, catdap and mga::mirror requires postgresql.
+
+transifex, being in django support mysql or postgresql
+<A HREF="http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/databases/">http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/databases/</A>
+( or sqlite or firebird )
+
+so we have a majority of database agnostic tools, except a few one that
+requires each their own.
+
+Given the activity around mysql and forks, wouldn't it be safer for us
+to use postgresql when possible for the moment ?
+( not that I think it will change much, IMHO, even if nanar will say me
+that postgresql &gt;&gt; mysql )
+
+&gt;<i> One server for everything, or multiple servers.
+</I>
+I would go for :
+
+one postgresql sql server for bugzilla, sympa, epoll transflex, on
+alamut or valstar ( since everything will be in local network )
+
+one mysql db for maintainers and maybe others when they appear.
+
+one separated mysql db for web ( blog ) on the next gandi vm ( so there
+is no lag )
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+<PRE>On 28 October 2010 18:44, &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> - allow ibiblio to reach mageia share
+</I>
+(...)
+
+&gt;<i> --- puppet/modules/rsyncd/templates/rsyncd.conf 2010-10-28 15:07:52 UTC (rev
+</I>&gt;<i> 50)
+</I>&gt;<i> +++ puppet/modules/rsyncd/templates/rsyncd.conf 2010-10-28 16:44:05 UTC (rev
+</I>&gt;<i> 51)
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -10,3 +10,6 @@
+</I>&gt;<i> distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr \
+</I>&gt;<i> distribipsl.aero.jussieu.fr \
+</I>&gt;<i> ibiblio.org \
+</I>&gt;<i> + 152.46.7.122 \
+</I>&gt;<i> + 152.19.134.16 \
+</I>&gt;<i> +
+</I>
+This is dirt
+Cannot they have DNS names for those?
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+&gt;<i> On 28 October 2010 18:44, &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - allow ibiblio to reach mageia share
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (...)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; --- puppet/modules/rsyncd/templates/rsyncd.conf 2010-10-28 15:07:52 UTC (rev
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 50)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; +++ puppet/modules/rsyncd/templates/rsyncd.conf 2010-10-28 16:44:05 UTC (rev
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 51)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; @@ -10,3 +10,6 @@
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr \
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; distribipsl.aero.jussieu.fr \
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ibiblio.org \
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; + 152.46.7.122 \
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; + 152.19.134.16 \
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; +
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is dirt
+</I>&gt;<i> Cannot they have DNS names for those?
+</I>
+This is the information given by ibiblio. first IP is current server,
+second is futur IP.
+
+I agree hostname would be better, except they change their DNS.
+
+I tried to be quick to have this setup ASAP.
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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 29 octobre 2010 &#224; 03:15 +0200, Remco Rijnders a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:55:57AM +0200, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at mageia.org</A> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC &quot;-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;<A HREF="http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd">http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd</A>&quot;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;html xmlns=&quot;<A HREF="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml</A>&quot;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;head&gt;&lt;meta http-equiv=&quot;content-type&quot; content=&quot;text/html; charset=utf-8&quot; /&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;title&gt;[53] - deploy ldap with puppet on valstar&lt;/title&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;snip&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For those of us reading mail with a mail client that doesn't handle
+</I>&gt;<i> HTML-only mail very gracefully out of the box (pine, mutt for example), it
+</I>&gt;<i> would be nice if these svn (?) notifications would be sent as text only or
+</I>&gt;<i> would at least have a text only representation in the mail.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I imagine there are more people than just me who'd find this useful as the
+</I>&gt;<i> current mails are almost unreadable to us.
+</I>
+Currently, this doesn't seems possible to have both of them with the
+current module, we are using a perl module for the post-commit hook :
+
+#!/usr/bin/perl -MSVN::Notify::Config=$0
+--- #YAML:1.0
+'':
+ PATH: &quot;/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin&quot;
+ handler: HTML::ColorDiff
+ with-diff: 1
+ to: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A>
+ from: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at mageia.org</A>
+
+
+But maybe using this one could do the trick :
+<A HREF="http://search.cpan.org/~dwheeler/SVN-Notify-2.80/lib/SVN/Notify/Alternative.pm">http://search.cpan.org/~dwheeler/SVN-Notify-2.80/lib/SVN/Notify/Alternative.pm</A>
+
+But for the moment, I do not have much time to test this.
+--
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+<PRE>Le 28/10/2010 19:02, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> We will need an SQL server for bugzilla, the packages maintainers
+</I>&gt;<i> database, the wiki, the blogs, the mageia.org website (not now, but
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe later), sympa mailing lists, transifex, and maybe others tools
+</I>&gt;<i> later.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We can use MySQL (or forks), PostreSQL, or both.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> One server for everything, or multiple servers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any ideas about this ?
+</I>
+The SQL Server won't be used for blogs as blogs will be hosted on Gandi.
+So not on the same network.
+Perf will be quite bad if WP is on Gandi but BDD on alamut I think...
+
+Same thing for the BDD for www no?
+
+But perhaps we can dump SQL on Gandi and save it on alamut for security
+reasons.
+
+My 2cts
+Dams
+--
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 29 octobre 2010 &#224; 13:56 +0200, Damien Lallement a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 28/10/2010 19:02, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We will need an SQL server for bugzilla, the packages maintainers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; database, the wiki, the blogs, the mageia.org website (not now, but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; maybe later), sympa mailing lists, transifex, and maybe others tools
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; later.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We can use MySQL (or forks), PostreSQL, or both.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; One server for everything, or multiple servers.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Any ideas about this ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The SQL Server won't be used for blogs as blogs will be hosted on Gandi.
+</I>&gt;<i> So not on the same network.
+</I>&gt;<i> Perf will be quite bad if WP is on Gandi but BDD on alamut I think...
+</I>
+While I agree, I wonder how bad the performance hit will be in practice,
+in fact.
+Maybe we could later make a small test blog to see.
+And the reason of using gandi was also the separation of servers, so a
+downtime of alamut do not impact the blog and www.
+
+&gt;<i> Same thing for the BDD for www no?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But perhaps we can dump SQL on Gandi and save it on alamut for security
+</I>&gt;<i> reasons.
+</I>
+We need a sql server for epoll, for bugzilla, for maintainers db, for
+transifex and for sympa ( for the first software ).
+
+
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+<PRE>On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 6:38 PM, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We now have puppet running on the servers thanks to misc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can checkout the puppet configuration in svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/adm/puppet">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/adm/puppet</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> (or <A HREF="svn://svn.mageia.org/adm/puppet">svn://svn.mageia.org/adm/puppet</A> for anonymous acces).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In puppet/manifests/nodes.pp you can see the list of services that need
+</I>&gt;<i> to be configured.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now we need to see who wants to work on which services.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - LDAP servers and web interface
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; Buchan setup a test server on the gandi VM and developed a web
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; interface. misc plans to work on the setup tomorrow, and I can help
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - Build system (urli scheduler, youri, iurt on build nodes etc ...)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; boklm, blino, misc, others ?
+</I>
+I can help for the BS too.
+
+what still need to be done ?
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+
+I have deployed ldap on the server, I will try to work on deploying
+catdap this weekend ( but I am quite busy, even if my girlfriend
+explained to me that monday was a banking holidays ).
+
+Since the application is still in flux for the moment, I will likely use
+some kind of automated svn snapshot, until we declare the application to
+be &quot;stable&quot;.
+
+Catalyst permit to use mod_perl, fastcgi, standalone daemon and cgi for
+deployement. Each have its pros and cons, anyone has a opinion on it ?
+
+I didn't really look in depth for the differences at the moment, but I
+will later this weekend.
+
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+<PRE>Le mardi 26 octobre 2010 &#224; 16:39 +0200, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 16:06, Olivier Thauvin
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * Romain d'Alverny (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 15:23, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Sysadm. Per request of webteam.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; - setup of infrastructure ( ie apache module)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Sysadm. Per request of webteam.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; - who is in charge of securing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; - the servers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; - each applications
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Both. Server security is going to be affected by application security
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; and this is the webteam role to control that part. And to assume/fix
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; potential issues.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Since you prefer to not using rpm, the work to setup such application
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; get more complicated, especially if the sys admin don't know perl (in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; this case, the same apply to php apps, python, etc...).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I know this firsthand, from both sides, yes. That's the webteam
+</I>&gt;<i> responsibility to provide this info for installing/upgrading the app,
+</I>&gt;<i> and that partially requires from the webteam some knowledge about the
+</I>&gt;<i> system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So indeed, both teams need to know/understand each other.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I don't like the &quot;svn snapshot&quot; way for officially in use web apps. It
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; works for testing the devel version, but I'd really hope anyone
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; working on web apps is able to have a clear roadmap and managing branch
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for quick security fixes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sure. But it happens to break nonetheless. What is crucial is not that
+</I>&gt;<i> there is no breach (there will), it's that it is quickly reported and
+</I>&gt;<i> fixed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And since you have a stable branch and a devel one, you are able to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; quickly redo a rpm.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I understand that but a RPM is an unnecessary step here IMHO. A web
+</I>&gt;<i> app/development life cycle in dev/production is not the same as one
+</I>&gt;<i> for a packaged app for a distribution.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All I care here as a Web dev/project manager is:
+</I>&gt;<i> - working on the app
+</I>&gt;<i> - making sure it works
+</I>&gt;<i> - pushing to prod
+</I>&gt;<i> - check again
+</I>&gt;<i> - iterate.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Pushing deployment from dev to production, assuming all tests pass,
+</I>&gt;<i> should be ideally as fast as pushing a single button and waiting for a
+</I>&gt;<i> few seconds. And it may not be a trivial thing either (not just
+</I>&gt;<i> pushing files, but moving the app into several states for a clean
+</I>&gt;<i> migration).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At some extent, RPM dependencies would be a useful thing for setting
+</I>&gt;<i> up the application but this mostly happens once (first install) and
+</I>&gt;<i> can be easily hosted within the web application itself (and then
+</I>&gt;<i> handle the error) - WordPress and Drupal do it for instance.
+</I>
+It also prevent the removal of used dependencies.
+This can happen either when we are cleaning the server, or when we
+upgrade the server, or another application.
+
+If tomorrow, we discover a huge security hole in php-hugesecurityhole
+rpm, we need to know who use it to assess the security of the
+infrastructure. And without knowing what other packages use the rpm,
+this is gonna be slightly complicated to know if we are affected or not.
+
+
+&gt;<i> So we can discuss this further with other future webteam members but I
+</I>&gt;<i> will seriously not manage a production environment that goes through
+</I>&gt;<i> packaging for app updates.
+</I>
+Well, if creating a package is just a single command ( as would be a
+upgrade to the production server ), I do not think it will be much of a
+problem. The only issue is to find someone skilled enough to create a
+shell script for that and I do not really think that it will be a big
+problem. We have a team of 8 admins and there is several volunteers
+eager to help, it would be quite weird to have no one able to do it in
+time.
+
+&gt;<i> That does not mean I don't care about security - that means that
+</I>&gt;<i> there's a balance to find and that web developers have to be in charge
+</I>&gt;<i> of their apps security as well. So if that means we need to have
+</I>&gt;<i> separate servers to isolate risks, so be it. If that means we need to
+</I>&gt;<i> go for a different type of hosting, so be it.
+</I>
+Separating server do not really help much, if there is a security
+problem, it will be there wherever you are. You can reduce the impact of
+course, but that's just a consolation. We will have work to do to be
+sure the server is clean after being audited, the reputation will be
+affected none the less, and if the server is used for
+spam/attack/whatever, we have to take care of this.
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+<PRE>On Fri, 29 Oct 2010, Dexter Morgan wrote:
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can help for the BS too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> what still need to be done ?
+</I>
+What still needs to be done :
+ - package (or update package) iurt and install it on build nodes
+ - setup ssh keys to allow ssh access from valstar to build nodes, from
+ ~mageia account (or someone else has better name to replace ~mandrake
+ account ?)
+ - install youri on valstar
+ - install and package ulri
+ - select scripts from robots directory which are needed, and
+ clean/update/install them :
+ <A HREF="http://svn.mandriva.com/svn/soft/build_system/upload/robot/trunk/">http://svn.mandriva.com/svn/soft/build_system/upload/robot/trunk/</A>
+ - package/install BS web interface :
+ <A HREF="http://svn.mandriva.com/svn/soft/build_system/web/">http://svn.mandriva.com/svn/soft/build_system/web/</A>
+ - maybe other things I forget
+
+Nicolas
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+<PRE>Revision: 68
+Author: blino
+Date: 2010-10-31 20:35:57 +0100 (Sun, 31 Oct 2010)
+Log Message:
+-----------
+valstar needs task-bs-cluster-main
+
+Modified Paths:
+--------------
+ puppet/manifests/nodes.pp
+
+Modified: puppet/manifests/nodes.pp
+===================================================================
+--- puppet/manifests/nodes.pp 2010-10-29 01:23:27 UTC (rev 67)
++++ puppet/manifests/nodes.pp 2010-10-31 19:35:57 UTC (rev 68)
+@@ -48,6 +48,10 @@
+ package {&quot;puppet-server&quot;:
+ ensure =&gt; &quot;installed&quot;
+ }
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++ package {&quot;task-bs-cluster-main&quot;:
++ ensure =&gt; &quot;installed&quot;
++ }
+ }
+
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+After some discussions tonight with blino on IRC about build system,
+some infos :
+
+ * contrary to Mandriva build system, for better security, only admins
+ will have shell access to the build nodes and valstar. We should provide
+ Cauldron nodes for packagers to test builds, but it will be on separate
+ servers.
+
+ * to submit builds, packagers will use &quot;mdvsys/repsys submit&quot; from their
+ computer, or from Cauldron test nodes. mdvsys/repsys require ssh to
+ connect to valstar and run youri wrapper. We will setup a restricted
+ shell to only allow commands needed by mdvsys/repsys, and ssh/git
+ (valstar is also the svn/git server). On Mandriva svn server we used
+ this script as the default shell to restrict to only ssh/git commands :
+ <A HREF="http://svn.gna.org/svn/savane/trunk/backend/accounts/sv_membersh.pl">http://svn.gna.org/svn/savane/trunk/backend/accounts/sv_membersh.pl</A>
+ We can update this script to also allow commands used by mdvsys/repsys.
+
+ * On Mandriva build system we had one ~mandrake user doing everything
+ (build bots, scheduler, mirrors, sign packages ...). Now we can split
+ this to have one user for each task. We can have the following users :
+ - buildbot (to run iurt on build nodes)
+ - schedbot (youri/ulri/emi)
+ - signbot (sign packages)
+ However we already have a mirror user on valstar. Is it ok, or should
+ we rename it to &quot;mirrorbot&quot; ? Or remove the &quot;bot&quot; suffix from other
+ users ?
+
+Nicolas
+
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+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000076.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Located near ielo.net / Lost Oasis
+</A><A NAME="76">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>J&#233;r&#244;me H&#233;nin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000028.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="28">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mailling list subscription
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000080.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning advance of the night
+</A><A NAME="80">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000121.html">[Mageia-sysadm] SQL Server
+</A><A NAME="121">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000013.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="13">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Derek Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000029.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="29">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Derek Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000033.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="33">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Derek Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000035.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="35">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Derek Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mailling list subscription
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000123.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do
+</A><A NAME="123">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000117.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [53] - deploy ldap with puppet on valstar -- html mail
+</A><A NAME="117">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000001.html">[Mageia-sysadm] meetbot migration to the gandibox
+</A><A NAME="1">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000003.html">[Mageia-sysadm] servers configuration tool
+</A><A NAME="3">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000006.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="6">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000007.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="7">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000009.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="9">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000015.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Infos about the machines
+</A><A NAME="15">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000018.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Infos about the machines
+</A><A NAME="18">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000023.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="23">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000025.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="25">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000030.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="30">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000031.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="31">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000036.html">[Mageia-sysadm] good news, bad news
+</A><A NAME="36">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000037.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="37">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000038.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [LONG] A not so modest proposal
+</A><A NAME="38">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mailling list subscription
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-sysadm] valstar is back
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-sysadm] valstar is back
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-sysadm] irc channel, and some guideline for coordination
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-sysadm] irc channel, and some guideline for coordination
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000072.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="72">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-sysadm] irc channel, and some guideline for coordination
+</A><A NAME="73">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000075.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [LONG] A not so modest proposal
+</A><A NAME="75">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000077.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Located near ielo.net / Lost Oasis
+</A><A NAME="77">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000078.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning advance of the night
+</A><A NAME="78">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000081.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning advance of the night
+</A><A NAME="81">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="84">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000100.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do
+</A><A NAME="100">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000101.html">[Mageia-sysadm] SQL Server
+</A><A NAME="101">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000120.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [53] - deploy ldap with puppet on valstar -- html mail
+</A><A NAME="120">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000122.html">[Mageia-sysadm] SQL Server
+</A><A NAME="122">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000124.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ldap deployement
+</A><A NAME="124">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000125.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="125">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000041.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="41">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000079.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Setting up primary mirror
+</A><A NAME="79">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000103.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [51] - allow ibiblio to reach mageia share
+</A><A NAME="103">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000102.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [51] - allow ibiblio to reach mageia share
+</A><A NAME="102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000034.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="34">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>S&#233;verine Wiltgen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000074.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="74">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>S&#233;verine Wiltgen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-sysadm] irc channel, and some guideline for coordination
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-sysadm] irc channel, and some guideline for coordination
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [40] - config file of bind need to be inside the chroot, not outside
+</A><A NAME="85">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [41] - fix wrong filename
+</A><A NAME="86">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000087.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [42] - fix the filename here too
+</A><A NAME="87">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [43] - fix missing comma
+</A><A NAME="88">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000089.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [44] - correctly manage timezone on server
+</A><A NAME="89">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000090.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [45] - convert the cronjob to the native cron type
+</A><A NAME="90">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000091.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [46] - remove file now that I checked that the cron job is ok
+</A><A NAME="91">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000092.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [47] - fix the configuration file ( guess next time, I will go to sleep instead of working during the night )
+</A><A NAME="92">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000093.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [48] - subtle fix for puppet on 2010.0, that will use service rather the initscript ( on krampouezh )
+</A><A NAME="93">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000094.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [49] add list of things to setup
+</A><A NAME="94">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000095.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [50] add transiflex on alamut (thanks @damsweb for noticing)
+</A><A NAME="95">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000098.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [51] - allow ibiblio to reach mageia share
+</A><A NAME="98">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000097.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [52] add SQL server in TODO list
+</A><A NAME="97">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000104.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [53] - deploy ldap with puppet on valstar
+</A><A NAME="104">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000105.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [54] -fix templates naming
+</A><A NAME="105">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000106.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [55] - add postgresql config
+</A><A NAME="106">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000107.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [56] - typo
+</A><A NAME="107">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000108.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [57] - typo
+</A><A NAME="108">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000109.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [58] - typo
+</A><A NAME="109">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000110.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [59] - typo
+</A><A NAME="110">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000111.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [60] - add login management to postgresql
+</A><A NAME="111">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000112.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [61] - enable ssl
+</A><A NAME="112">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000113.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [62] - fix the config file so it work on x86_64 and x86
+</A><A NAME="113">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000114.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [63] - add ldap config file, with ldap restricted to localhost ( until we set a firewall or stricter acl)
+</A><A NAME="114">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000115.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [64] - allow epoll user to connect locally to epoll db
+</A><A NAME="115">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000116.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [65] - sync with change at zarb ( ldap, ns )
+</A><A NAME="116">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000118.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [66] - check postgres is running
+</A><A NAME="118">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000119.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [67] - typo
+</A><A NAME="119">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000127.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [68] valstar needs task-bs-cluster-main
+</A><A NAME="127">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000002.html">[Mageia-sysadm] servers configuration tool
+</A><A NAME="2">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000004.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="4">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000008.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="8">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000010.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="10">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000011.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="11">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000014.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Infos about the machines
+</A><A NAME="14">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000017.html">[Mageia-sysadm] servers configuration tool
+</A><A NAME="17">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000019.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Infos about the machines
+</A><A NAME="19">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000020.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="20">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000021.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="21">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000024.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="24">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mailling list subscription
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-sysadm] valstar is back
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [LONG] A not so modest proposal
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="71">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000082.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="82">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000096.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do
+</A><A NAME="96">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000099.html">[Mageia-sysadm] SQL Server
+</A><A NAME="99">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000126.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do
+</A><A NAME="126">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000128.html">[Mageia-sysadm] About build system setup
+</A><A NAME="128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Oct 31 21:28:41 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Oct 31 21:28:46 CET 2010</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
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+
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
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+ <h1>October 2010 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Oct 1 03:27:02 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Oct 31 21:28:41 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 128<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000001.html">[Mageia-sysadm] meetbot migration to the gandibox
+</A><A NAME="1">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000002.html">[Mageia-sysadm] servers configuration tool
+</A><A NAME="2">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000003.html">[Mageia-sysadm] servers configuration tool
+</A><A NAME="3">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000004.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="4">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000005.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="5">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000006.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="6">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000007.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="7">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000008.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="8">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000009.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="9">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000010.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="10">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000011.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="11">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000012.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="12">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000013.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="13">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Derek Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000014.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Infos about the machines
+</A><A NAME="14">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000015.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Infos about the machines
+</A><A NAME="15">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000016.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Infos about the machines
+</A><A NAME="16">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000017.html">[Mageia-sysadm] servers configuration tool
+</A><A NAME="17">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000018.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Infos about the machines
+</A><A NAME="18">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000019.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Infos about the machines
+</A><A NAME="19">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000020.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="20">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000021.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="21">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000022.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="22">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000023.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="23">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000024.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="24">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000025.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="25">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000026.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="26">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000027.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="27">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000028.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="28">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000029.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="29">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Derek Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000030.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="30">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000031.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="31">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000032.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="32">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000033.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="33">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Derek Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000034.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="34">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>S&#233;verine Wiltgen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000035.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="35">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Derek Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000036.html">[Mageia-sysadm] good news, bad news
+</A><A NAME="36">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000037.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="37">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000038.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [LONG] A not so modest proposal
+</A><A NAME="38">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000040.html">[Mageia-sysadm] 2010.1 kernel with the vmscan fix
+</A><A NAME="40">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000039.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: 2010.1 kernel with the vmscan fix
+</A><A NAME="39">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000041.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="41">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mailling list subscription
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-sysadm] valstar is back
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mailling list subscription
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mailling list subscription
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mailling list subscription
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-sysadm] valstar is back
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-sysadm] valstar is back
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-sysadm] irc channel, and some guideline for coordination
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [LONG] A not so modest proposal
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-sysadm] irc channel, and some guideline for coordination
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-sysadm] irc channel, and some guideline for coordination
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-sysadm] irc channel, and some guideline for coordination
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="71">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000072.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="72">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-sysadm] irc channel, and some guideline for coordination
+</A><A NAME="73">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000074.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="74">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>S&#233;verine Wiltgen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000075.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [LONG] A not so modest proposal
+</A><A NAME="75">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000076.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Located near ielo.net / Lost Oasis
+</A><A NAME="76">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>J&#233;r&#244;me H&#233;nin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000077.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Located near ielo.net / Lost Oasis
+</A><A NAME="77">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000078.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning advance of the night
+</A><A NAME="78">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000079.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Setting up primary mirror
+</A><A NAME="79">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000080.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning advance of the night
+</A><A NAME="80">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000081.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning advance of the night
+</A><A NAME="81">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000082.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="82">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000083.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="83">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cazzaniga-Sandro
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="84">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [40] - config file of bind need to be inside the chroot, not outside
+</A><A NAME="85">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [41] - fix wrong filename
+</A><A NAME="86">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000087.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [42] - fix the filename here too
+</A><A NAME="87">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [43] - fix missing comma
+</A><A NAME="88">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000089.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [44] - correctly manage timezone on server
+</A><A NAME="89">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000090.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [45] - convert the cronjob to the native cron type
+</A><A NAME="90">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000091.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [46] - remove file now that I checked that the cron job is ok
+</A><A NAME="91">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000092.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [47] - fix the configuration file ( guess next time, I will go to sleep instead of working during the night )
+</A><A NAME="92">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000093.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [48] - subtle fix for puppet on 2010.0, that will use service rather the initscript ( on krampouezh )
+</A><A NAME="93">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000094.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [49] add list of things to setup
+</A><A NAME="94">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000095.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [50] add transiflex on alamut (thanks @damsweb for noticing)
+</A><A NAME="95">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000096.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do
+</A><A NAME="96">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000098.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [51] - allow ibiblio to reach mageia share
+</A><A NAME="98">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000097.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [52] add SQL server in TODO list
+</A><A NAME="97">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000099.html">[Mageia-sysadm] SQL Server
+</A><A NAME="99">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000100.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do
+</A><A NAME="100">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000101.html">[Mageia-sysadm] SQL Server
+</A><A NAME="101">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000102.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [51] - allow ibiblio to reach mageia share
+</A><A NAME="102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000103.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [51] - allow ibiblio to reach mageia share
+</A><A NAME="103">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000104.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [53] - deploy ldap with puppet on valstar
+</A><A NAME="104">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000105.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [54] -fix templates naming
+</A><A NAME="105">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000106.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [55] - add postgresql config
+</A><A NAME="106">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000107.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [56] - typo
+</A><A NAME="107">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000108.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [57] - typo
+</A><A NAME="108">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000109.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [58] - typo
+</A><A NAME="109">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000110.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [59] - typo
+</A><A NAME="110">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000111.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [60] - add login management to postgresql
+</A><A NAME="111">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000112.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [61] - enable ssl
+</A><A NAME="112">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000113.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [62] - fix the config file so it work on x86_64 and x86
+</A><A NAME="113">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000114.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [63] - add ldap config file, with ldap restricted to localhost ( until we set a firewall or stricter acl)
+</A><A NAME="114">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000115.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [64] - allow epoll user to connect locally to epoll db
+</A><A NAME="115">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000117.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [53] - deploy ldap with puppet on valstar -- html mail
+</A><A NAME="117">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000116.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [65] - sync with change at zarb ( ldap, ns )
+</A><A NAME="116">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000118.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [66] - check postgres is running
+</A><A NAME="118">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000119.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [67] - typo
+</A><A NAME="119">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000120.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [53] - deploy ldap with puppet on valstar -- html mail
+</A><A NAME="120">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000121.html">[Mageia-sysadm] SQL Server
+</A><A NAME="121">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000122.html">[Mageia-sysadm] SQL Server
+</A><A NAME="122">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000124.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ldap deployement
+</A><A NAME="124">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000123.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do
+</A><A NAME="123">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000125.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="125">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000126.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do
+</A><A NAME="126">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000127.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [68] valstar needs task-bs-cluster-main
+</A><A NAME="127">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000128.html">[Mageia-sysadm] About build system setup
+</A><A NAME="128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Oct 31 21:28:41 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Oct 31 21:28:46 CET 2010</i>
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+ <h1>October 2010 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Oct 1 03:27:02 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Oct 31 21:28:41 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 128<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000040.html">[Mageia-sysadm] 2010.1 kernel with the vmscan fix
+</A><A NAME="40">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [40] - config file of bind need to be inside the chroot, not outside
+</A><A NAME="85">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [41] - fix wrong filename
+</A><A NAME="86">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000087.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [42] - fix the filename here too
+</A><A NAME="87">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [43] - fix missing comma
+</A><A NAME="88">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000089.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [44] - correctly manage timezone on server
+</A><A NAME="89">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000090.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [45] - convert the cronjob to the native cron type
+</A><A NAME="90">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000091.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [46] - remove file now that I checked that the cron job is ok
+</A><A NAME="91">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000092.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [47] - fix the configuration file ( guess next time, I will go to sleep instead of working during the night )
+</A><A NAME="92">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000093.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [48] - subtle fix for puppet on 2010.0, that will use service rather the initscript ( on krampouezh )
+</A><A NAME="93">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000094.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [49] add list of things to setup
+</A><A NAME="94">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000095.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [50] add transiflex on alamut (thanks @damsweb for noticing)
+</A><A NAME="95">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000098.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [51] - allow ibiblio to reach mageia share
+</A><A NAME="98">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000102.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [51] - allow ibiblio to reach mageia share
+</A><A NAME="102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000103.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [51] - allow ibiblio to reach mageia share
+</A><A NAME="103">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000097.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [52] add SQL server in TODO list
+</A><A NAME="97">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000104.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [53] - deploy ldap with puppet on valstar
+</A><A NAME="104">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000117.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [53] - deploy ldap with puppet on valstar -- html mail
+</A><A NAME="117">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000120.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [53] - deploy ldap with puppet on valstar -- html mail
+</A><A NAME="120">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000105.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [54] -fix templates naming
+</A><A NAME="105">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000106.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [55] - add postgresql config
+</A><A NAME="106">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000107.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [56] - typo
+</A><A NAME="107">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000108.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [57] - typo
+</A><A NAME="108">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000109.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [58] - typo
+</A><A NAME="109">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000110.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [59] - typo
+</A><A NAME="110">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000111.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [60] - add login management to postgresql
+</A><A NAME="111">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000112.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [61] - enable ssl
+</A><A NAME="112">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000113.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [62] - fix the config file so it work on x86_64 and x86
+</A><A NAME="113">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000114.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [63] - add ldap config file, with ldap restricted to localhost ( until we set a firewall or stricter acl)
+</A><A NAME="114">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000115.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [64] - allow epoll user to connect locally to epoll db
+</A><A NAME="115">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000116.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [65] - sync with change at zarb ( ldap, ns )
+</A><A NAME="116">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000118.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [66] - check postgres is running
+</A><A NAME="118">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000119.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [67] - typo
+</A><A NAME="119">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000127.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [68] valstar needs task-bs-cluster-main
+</A><A NAME="127">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000038.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [LONG] A not so modest proposal
+</A><A NAME="38">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [LONG] A not so modest proposal
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000075.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [LONG] A not so modest proposal
+</A><A NAME="75">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000128.html">[Mageia-sysadm] About build system setup
+</A><A NAME="128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000039.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: 2010.1 kernel with the vmscan fix
+</A><A NAME="39">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000036.html">[Mageia-sysadm] good news, bad news
+</A><A NAME="36">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000014.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Infos about the machines
+</A><A NAME="14">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000015.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Infos about the machines
+</A><A NAME="15">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000016.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Infos about the machines
+</A><A NAME="16">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000018.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Infos about the machines
+</A><A NAME="18">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000019.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Infos about the machines
+</A><A NAME="19">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-sysadm] irc channel, and some guideline for coordination
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-sysadm] irc channel, and some guideline for coordination
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-sysadm] irc channel, and some guideline for coordination
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-sysadm] irc channel, and some guideline for coordination
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-sysadm] irc channel, and some guideline for coordination
+</A><A NAME="73">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000124.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ldap deployement
+</A><A NAME="124">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000096.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do
+</A><A NAME="96">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000100.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do
+</A><A NAME="100">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000123.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do
+</A><A NAME="123">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000126.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do
+</A><A NAME="126">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000076.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Located near ielo.net / Lost Oasis
+</A><A NAME="76">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>J&#233;r&#244;me H&#233;nin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000077.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Located near ielo.net / Lost Oasis
+</A><A NAME="77">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mailling list subscription
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mailling list subscription
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mailling list subscription
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mailling list subscription
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000001.html">[Mageia-sysadm] meetbot migration to the gandibox
+</A><A NAME="1">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000078.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning advance of the night
+</A><A NAME="78">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000080.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning advance of the night
+</A><A NAME="80">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000081.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning advance of the night
+</A><A NAME="81">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000037.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="37">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000041.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="41">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="71">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000072.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="72">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000125.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="125">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000004.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="4">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000005.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="5">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000006.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="6">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000007.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="7">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000008.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="8">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000009.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="9">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000010.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="10">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000011.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="11">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000012.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="12">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000013.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="13">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Derek Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000020.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="20">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000002.html">[Mageia-sysadm] servers configuration tool
+</A><A NAME="2">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000003.html">[Mageia-sysadm] servers configuration tool
+</A><A NAME="3">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000017.html">[Mageia-sysadm] servers configuration tool
+</A><A NAME="17">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000079.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Setting up primary mirror
+</A><A NAME="79">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000021.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="21">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000022.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="22">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000023.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="23">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000024.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="24">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000025.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="25">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000026.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="26">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000027.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="27">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000028.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="28">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000029.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="29">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Derek Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000030.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="30">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000031.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="31">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000032.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="32">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000033.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="33">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Derek Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000034.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="34">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>S&#233;verine Wiltgen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000035.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="35">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Derek Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000099.html">[Mageia-sysadm] SQL Server
+</A><A NAME="99">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000101.html">[Mageia-sysadm] SQL Server
+</A><A NAME="101">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000121.html">[Mageia-sysadm] SQL Server
+</A><A NAME="121">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000122.html">[Mageia-sysadm] SQL Server
+</A><A NAME="122">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000074.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="74">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>S&#233;verine Wiltgen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000082.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="82">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000083.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="83">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cazzaniga-Sandro
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="84">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-sysadm] valstar is back
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-sysadm] valstar is back
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-sysadm] valstar is back
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Oct 31 21:28:41 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Oct 31 21:28:46 CET 2010</i>
+ <p>
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+ </a></b></li>
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+ <h1>October 2010 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Oct 1 03:27:02 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Oct 31 21:28:41 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 128<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01285896422- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000001.html">[Mageia-sysadm] meetbot migration to the gandibox
+</A><A NAME="1">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01285928976- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000002.html">[Mageia-sysadm] servers configuration tool
+</A><A NAME="2">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01285928976-01285934054- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000003.html">[Mageia-sysadm] servers configuration tool
+</A><A NAME="3">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285928976-01285934054-01286530486- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000017.html">[Mageia-sysadm] servers configuration tool
+</A><A NAME="17">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01286373740- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000004.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="4">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01286373740-01286376767- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000005.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="5">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01286373740-01286376767-01286382696- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000007.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="7">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01286373740-01286376767-01286382696-01286454162- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000008.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="8">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286373740-01286376767-01286382696-01286454162-01286455338- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000009.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="9">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286373740-01286376767-01286382696-01286454162-01286455338-01286457482- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000011.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="11">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01286373740-01286381818- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000006.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="6">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01286373740-01286457240- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000010.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="10">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01286373740-01286471452- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000012.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="12">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01286373740-01286573233- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000020.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="20">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01286488770- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000013.html">[Mageia-sysadm] presentations
+</A><A NAME="13">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Derek Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01286492858- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000014.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Infos about the machines
+</A><A NAME="14">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01286492858-01286494890- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000015.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Infos about the machines
+</A><A NAME="15">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01286492858-01286494890-01286524728- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000016.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Infos about the machines
+</A><A NAME="16">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01286492858-01286494890-01286524728-01286545062- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000018.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Infos about the machines
+</A><A NAME="18">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01286492858-01286494890-01286548170- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000019.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Infos about the machines
+</A><A NAME="19">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01287413487- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000021.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="21">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01287413487-01287413676- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000022.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="22">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01287413487-01287413676-01287414227- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000023.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="23">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01287413487-01287413676-01287414227-01287416285- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000024.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="24">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01287413487-01287413676-01287414227-01287416285-01287418990- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000025.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="25">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01287413487-01287413676-01287414227-01287416285-01287418990-01287419660- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000026.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="26">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01287413487-01287413676-01287414227-01287416285-01287418990-01287419660-01287423287- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000027.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="27">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01287413487-01287413676-01287414227-01287416285-01287418990-01287419660-01287423287-01287482569- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000028.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="28">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01287413487-01287413676-01287414227-01287416285-01287418990-01287419660-01287423287-01287482569-01287519685- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000029.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="29">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Derek Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01287413487-01287413676-01287414227-01287416285-01287418990-01287419660-01287423287-01287482569-01287519685-01287523143- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000030.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="30">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01287413487-01287413676-01287414227-01287416285-01287418990-01287419660-01287423287-01287482569-01287519685-01287699232- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000033.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="33">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Derek Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01287413487-01287413676-01287414227-01287416285-01287418990-01287419660-01287423287-01287482569-01287519685-01287699232-01287775071- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000034.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="34">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>S&#233;verine Wiltgen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01287413487-01287413676-01287414227-01287416285-01287418990-01287419660-01287423287-01287482569-01287519685-01287699232-01287780063- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000035.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="35">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Derek Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01287413487-01287413676-01287414227-01287416285-01287418990-01287419660-01287577436- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000031.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="31">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01287413487-01287413676-01287414227-01287416285-01287418990-01287419660-01287577436-01287607420- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000032.html">[Mageia-sysadm] some news about the servers
+</A><A NAME="32">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01287861365- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000036.html">[Mageia-sysadm] good news, bad news
+</A><A NAME="36">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01287862961- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000037.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="37">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01287862961-01287917906- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000041.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="41">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01287862961-01287917906-01287919482- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01287862961-01287917906-01287998691- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01287862961-01287917906-01287998691-01288004735- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01287862961-01287917906-01288096504- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01287862961-01287917906-01288096504-01288096965- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01287862961-01287917906-01288096504-01288096982- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01287862961-01287917906-01288096504-01288096982-01288097501- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01287862961-01287917906-01288096504-01288099433- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01287862961-01287917906-01288096504-01288099433-01288100661- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01287862961-01287917906-01288096504-01288099433-01288100661-01288102001- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01287862961-01287917906-01288096504-01288099433-01288100661-01288102001-01288103992- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01287862961-01287917906-01288096504-01288099433-01288100661-01288102001-01288103992-01288428951- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000125.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="125">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01287862961-01287917906-01288096504-01288099433-01288100661-01288102001-01288104013- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01287862961-01288108815- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="71">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01287862961-01288108815-01288109047- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000072.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
+</A><A NAME="72">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01287878118- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000038.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [LONG] A not so modest proposal
+</A><A NAME="38">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01287878118-01288107660- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [LONG] A not so modest proposal
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01287878118-01288107660-01288115212- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000075.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [LONG] A not so modest proposal
+</A><A NAME="75">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01287901735- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000040.html">[Mageia-sysadm] 2010.1 kernel with the vmscan fix
+</A><A NAME="40">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01287902037- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000039.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: 2010.1 kernel with the vmscan fix
+</A><A NAME="39">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288000405- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mailling list subscription
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01288000405-01288018715- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mailling list subscription
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01288000405-01288018715-01288038723- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mailling list subscription
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01288000405-01288092425- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mailling list subscription
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01288017192- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-sysadm] valstar is back
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01288017192-01288094160- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-sysadm] valstar is back
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01288017192-01288094160-01288095143- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-sysadm] valstar is back
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01288037068- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01288037068-01288039026- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01288037068-01288040270- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01288037068-01288042636- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01288037068-01288042636-01288111854- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000074.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="74">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>S&#233;verine Wiltgen
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01288037068-01288104395- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01288037068-01288184432- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000082.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="82">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01288037068-01288184432-01288186670- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000083.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="83">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cazzaniga-Sandro
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01288037068-01288184432-01288186670-01288187423- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ssh keys
+</A><A NAME="84">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01288106954- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-sysadm] irc channel, and some guideline for coordination
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01288106954-01288108352- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-sysadm] irc channel, and some guideline for coordination
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01288106954-01288108352-01288108631- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-sysadm] irc channel, and some guideline for coordination
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01288106954-01288108352-01288108641- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-sysadm] irc channel, and some guideline for coordination
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01288106954-01288108352-01288108641-01288109465- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-sysadm] irc channel, and some guideline for coordination
+</A><A NAME="73">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01288129856- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000076.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Located near ielo.net / Lost Oasis
+</A><A NAME="76">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>J&#233;r&#244;me H&#233;nin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01288129856-01288130951- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000077.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Located near ielo.net / Lost Oasis
+</A><A NAME="77">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01288139231- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000078.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning advance of the night
+</A><A NAME="78">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01288139231-01288183407- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000080.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning advance of the night
+</A><A NAME="80">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01288139231-01288183407-01288184137- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000081.html">[Mageia-sysadm] planning advance of the night
+</A><A NAME="81">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01288140661- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000079.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Setting up primary mirror
+</A><A NAME="79">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288192273- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [40] - config file of bind need to be inside the chroot, not outside
+</A><A NAME="85">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288192431- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [41] - fix wrong filename
+</A><A NAME="86">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288192829- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000087.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [42] - fix the filename here too
+</A><A NAME="87">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288192908- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [43] - fix missing comma
+</A><A NAME="88">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288194683- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000089.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [44] - correctly manage timezone on server
+</A><A NAME="89">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288195308- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000090.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [45] - convert the cronjob to the native cron type
+</A><A NAME="90">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288195505- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000091.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [46] - remove file now that I checked that the cron job is ok
+</A><A NAME="91">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288196811- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000092.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [47] - fix the configuration file ( guess next time, I will go to sleep instead of working during the night )
+</A><A NAME="92">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288197657- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000093.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [48] - subtle fix for puppet on 2010.0, that will use service rather the initscript ( on krampouezh )
+</A><A NAME="93">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288276360- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000094.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [49] add list of things to setup
+</A><A NAME="94">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288278473- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000095.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [50] add transiflex on alamut (thanks @damsweb for noticing)
+</A><A NAME="95">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288283907- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000096.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do
+</A><A NAME="96">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01288283907-01288285642- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000100.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do
+</A><A NAME="100">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01288283907-01288379956- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000123.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do
+</A><A NAME="123">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01288283907-01288379956-01288546680- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000126.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do
+</A><A NAME="126">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01288284245- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000098.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [51] - allow ibiblio to reach mageia share
+</A><A NAME="98">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01288284245-01288292709- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000102.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [51] - allow ibiblio to reach mageia share
+</A><A NAME="102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01288284245-01288292709-01288302010- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000103.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [51] - allow ibiblio to reach mageia share
+</A><A NAME="103">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01288284470- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000097.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [52] add SQL server in TODO list
+</A><A NAME="97">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288285332- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000099.html">[Mageia-sysadm] SQL Server
+</A><A NAME="99">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01288285332-01288287005- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000101.html">[Mageia-sysadm] SQL Server
+</A><A NAME="101">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01288285332-01288353361- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000121.html">[Mageia-sysadm] SQL Server
+</A><A NAME="121">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01288285332-01288353361-01288354631- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000122.html">[Mageia-sysadm] SQL Server
+</A><A NAME="122">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01288306557- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000104.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [53] - deploy ldap with puppet on valstar
+</A><A NAME="104">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01288306557-01288314919- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000117.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [53] - deploy ldap with puppet on valstar -- html mail
+</A><A NAME="117">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01288306557-01288314919-01288317416- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000120.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [53] - deploy ldap with puppet on valstar -- html mail
+</A><A NAME="120">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01288308451- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000105.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [54] -fix templates naming
+</A><A NAME="105">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288309291- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000106.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [55] - add postgresql config
+</A><A NAME="106">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288309425- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000107.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [56] - typo
+</A><A NAME="107">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288309801- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000108.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [57] - typo
+</A><A NAME="108">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288309845- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000109.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [58] - typo
+</A><A NAME="109">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288309878- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000110.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [59] - typo
+</A><A NAME="110">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288310360- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000111.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [60] - add login management to postgresql
+</A><A NAME="111">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288312688- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000112.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [61] - enable ssl
+</A><A NAME="112">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288312837- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000113.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [62] - fix the config file so it work on x86_64 and x86
+</A><A NAME="113">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288314358- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000114.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [63] - add ldap config file, with ldap restricted to localhost ( until we set a firewall or stricter acl)
+</A><A NAME="114">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288314744- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000115.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [64] - allow epoll user to connect locally to epoll db
+</A><A NAME="115">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288315086- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000116.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [65] - sync with change at zarb ( ldap, ns )
+</A><A NAME="116">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288315363- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000118.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [66] - check postgres is running
+</A><A NAME="118">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288315407- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000119.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [67] - typo
+</A><A NAME="119">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288377942- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000124.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ldap deployement
+</A><A NAME="124">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288553758- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000127.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [68] valstar needs task-bs-cluster-main
+</A><A NAME="127">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root at mageia.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01288556921- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000128.html">[Mageia-sysadm] About build system setup
+</A><A NAME="128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Oct 31 21:28:41 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Oct 31 21:28:46 CET 2010</i>
+ <p>
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