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+ <B>Anne Wilson</B>
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+ <I>Thu Jul 26 12:57:13 CEST 2012</I>
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+On 26/07/12 03:45, TJ wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The US is a strange place that often makes little sense. We drive
+</I>&gt;<i> on the parkway, and park on the driveway,
+</I>
+Perfect examples of needing to be aware of clarity :-)
+
+&gt;<i> And add to that all the words we've integrated from languages from
+</I>&gt;<i> all over the world - our infamous &quot;melting-pot&quot; at work - and you
+</I>&gt;<i> get a hopeless mess. But it's our mess, and we like it that way.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Equally true of en_GB - we like our own mess, but we shouldn't inflict
+on others anything that could confuse them.
+
+&gt;<i> BTW Anne, sorry, but to my ears &quot;thoil&quot; sounds like something
+</I>&gt;<i> someone with a lisp would say when describing a planting medium.
+</I>
+Haha! Still, you have to admit that having a single word that implies
+so much is useful :-)
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As they say in NY, put out or get out. The British translation
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> for that would be: get down from your high horse and help out
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> or just go away.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> OR &quot;Put up, or shut up&quot; :-)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't remember hearing Max's version in Upstate New York. The
+</I>&gt;<i> high horse variation is older usage (My grandmother favored it.
+</I>&gt;<i> Oops. Sorry. *favoured* it.), and Anne's version is the most common
+</I>&gt;<i> here. Another version is &quot;Put your money where your mouth is.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Agreed - often used here.
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So please, you are welcome to join the Mageia team and provide
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> an en_GB translation for what is missing. You are welcome to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sit in silent defiance and nurse your stubbornness. But this,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this angst-driven tirade? This is not welcome at all. It only
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> generates more angst.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> After a bad start, just relax. You will be welcomed if you do
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> give your effort.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Lord knows I can't speak for all Americans, but for my own part I
+</I>&gt;<i> could easily adapt if British were the default language, rather
+</I>&gt;<i> than American. I have traveled to Canada and have cruised through
+</I>&gt;<i> web sites that used British spelling, and have felt no offense
+</I>&gt;<i> (Oops again. *offence,* isn't it?) at seeing it. If it will help
+</I>&gt;<i> international relations, I'm more than willing to exist with
+</I>&gt;<i> spellings that look odd to me. After a while, I doubt they'd still
+</I>&gt;<i> look so odd.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Heck, you can use Cockney if you want. Sounds like fun.
+</I>
+There I draw the line :-D Much of Cockney rhyming slang was
+deliberate to avoid outsiders understanding a conversation, even down
+to reversing words, such as 'yobs' for 'boys'.
+
+I enjoy diversions into language like this, but of course the crux of
+the matter in this context is that we all agree that clarity counts
+most, and a little give-and-take always helps.
+
+Anne
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