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| author | Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> | 2013-04-14 13:46:12 +0000 |
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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101020/002526.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101020/002526.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bdc0a54b6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101020/002526.html @@ -0,0 +1,122 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3C1287605636.7374.38.camel%40localhost.localdomain%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002512.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002515.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions</H1> + <B>David Coulette</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3C1287605636.7374.38.camel%40localhost.localdomain%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions">dcoulette at yahoo.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Oct 20 22:13:56 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002512.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002515.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2526">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2526">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2526">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2526">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mercredi 20 octobre 2010 à 16:05 +0200, Kristoffer Grundström a +écrit : +><i> Right, but perhaps a video during the installation teaching them what +</I>><i> they should know for future installations would help. +</I>><i> +</I>"In this video we will show you how not to wipe out all your precious +data when repatitioning a harddrive, so that newt time you are more +cautious. Cheers from the team" + + +Providing educative material for beginners is a very good idea but ... + definitely not in an installer : installing an operating system is +always a risky procedure : the unknowing user should be guided or +informed BEFORE even inserting the installation media. +Educationnal material should be available through manuals, tutorial +videos, or better direct help from a more advanced user. + +Trying to adapt the interface of a crucial piece of software to +educate newbies is a recipe for disaster : +- there's not limit on the amout of things people may not know so you +end up targeting people who know nothing and anyway will need help from +someone else. The attempt looks like trying to design a pen for people +who don't know yet how to write. +- the dumbing down of the interface bears the risk of making the +installer harder to use by knowlegeable users, who act based on accurate +and technical information. + +One could argue for multi-level interface but you'll have to make +assumptions about the categories of users you create : apart from the +usual "sensible_defaults/advanced" modes you would have to encompass the +whole spectrum from absolute newbie to expert sysadmin. + +I'm not advocating making a text-mode obscure installer, just that the +installer has a precise function : installing a system based on +unequivocal input from the user. Auto-detection of hardaware and +sensible defaults make the process easier and faster for the most common +cases, but you can't always avoid requesting more "technical" input from +the user. + +Your idea of video is a good one : you could even extend it to +interactive ones. A web app acting as an installation simulator/tutor +could ease the process greatly for new users, with no risk for their +system. They could at least, during that "training session",be guided to +gather the relevant data about their system and their configuration +choices before doing the installation itself. + +IMHO separation of educationnal material from software interface make +both better : +- the educational material can be as verbose as necessary, adaptable to +different kind of users. +- the installer interface can do its job properly : provide accurate and +effective data exchange between the user and the installer. + +Sorry for the long rant..;) I saw too many interfaces dumbed down to the +point of being useless to everyone, newbies included. + +Cheers. + + + + + + + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002512.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002515.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2526">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2526">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2526">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2526">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |