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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001674.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001674.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0a2d667a4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001674.html @@ -0,0 +1,67 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to twitter in blog page + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20wrong%20reference%20to%20twitter%20in%20blog%20page&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA51D2E.9030106%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001692.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to twitter in blog page</H1> + <B>Philippe DIDIER</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20wrong%20reference%20to%20twitter%20in%20blog%20page&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA51D2E.9030106%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to twitter in blog page">philippedidier at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 01:28:46 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001692.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to twitter in blog page +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1674">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1674">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1674">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1674">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> + +would you please correct this in the source of the blog : in the widget area +<a href="<A HREF="http://www.twitter.com/mageia_os">http://www.twitter.com/mageia_os</A> <view-source:<A HREF="http://www.twitter.com/mageia_os">http://www.twitter.com/mageia_os</A>>" target="_blank"><img src="<A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/fr/wp-content/images/icon-twitter.png">http://blog.mageia.org/fr/wp-content/images/icon-twitter.png</A> <view-source:<A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/fr/wp-content/images/icon-twitter.png">http://blog.mageia.org/fr/wp-content/images/icon-twitter.png</A>>"></a> + +it must be +href="<A HREF="http://www.twitter.com/mageia_org">http://www.twitter.com/mageia_org</A> <view-source:<A HREF="http://www.twitter.com/mageia_os">http://www.twitter.com/mageia_os</A>>" + + +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101001/4eb6a0ea/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001692.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to twitter in blog page +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1674">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1674">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1674">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1674">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001675.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001675.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1c95ab7c4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001675.html @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20en%20Enli2010&In-Reply-To=%3C201009301833.36276.dlucio%40okay.com.mx%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001692.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001677.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010</H1> + <B>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20en%20Enli2010&In-Reply-To=%3C201009301833.36276.dlucio%40okay.com.mx%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010">dlucio at okay.com.mx + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 01:33:35 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001692.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to twitter in blog page +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001677.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1675">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1675">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1675">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1675">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Ehlo All, + +Well I got an oportunity on presenting Mageia in Enli2010 conferences +(www.enli.org.mx). Can we all work on a presentation? So mexican people get +involved and see this + +I will place initial ODP in a public place so we may place suggestion. + +Regards, + +LD +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001692.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to twitter in blog page +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001677.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1675">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1675">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1675">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1675">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001676.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001676.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..eaa78eb62 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001676.html @@ -0,0 +1,71 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] wrong ref in the blog page + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20wrong%20ref%20in%20the%20blog%20page&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA51F0D.6000306%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001678.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001679.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] wrong ref in the blog page</H1> + <B>Philippe DIDIER</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20wrong%20ref%20in%20the%20blog%20page&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA51F0D.6000306%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] wrong ref in the blog page">philippedidier at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 01:36:45 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001678.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001679.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1676">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1676">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1676">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1676">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> In the source code of the blog there's a wrong ref to twitter in the +"widget-area" class +it is written : +"<A HREF="http://www.twitter.com/mageia_os">http://www.twitter.com/mageia_os</A>" + +clicking on twitter symbol leads to a page that doesn't exist in twitter !!! + +it must be : +"<A HREF="http://www.twitter.com/mageia_org">http://www.twitter.com/mageia_org</A>" + + + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001678.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001679.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1676">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1676">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1676">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1676">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001677.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001677.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c097cdbb6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001677.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20en%20Enli2010&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA52330.700%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001675.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001678.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010</H1> + <B>Thomas Lottmann</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20en%20Enli2010&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA52330.700%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010">skiperdrake at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 01:54:24 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001675.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001678.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1677">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1677">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1677">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1677">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> Le 01/10/2010 01:33, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz a écrit : +><i> Ehlo All, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well I got an oportunity on presenting Mageia in Enli2010 conferences +</I>><i> (www.enli.org.mx). Can we all work on a presentation? So mexican people get +</I>><i> involved and see this +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I will place initial ODP in a public place so we may place suggestion. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> LD +</I> +Sure, there must be a several introductory things that can be told about +Mageia, but it will only be introductory though, as Mageia is still in +construction. +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001675.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001678.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1677">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1677">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1677">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1677">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001678.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001678.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..00923dbb1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001678.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20en%20Enli2010&In-Reply-To=%3C201009301939.25578.dlucio%40okay.com.mx%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001677.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001676.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010</H1> + <B>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20en%20Enli2010&In-Reply-To=%3C201009301939.25578.dlucio%40okay.com.mx%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010">dlucio at okay.com.mx + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 02:39:25 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001677.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001676.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong ref in the blog page +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1678">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1678">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1678">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1678">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le jeudi 30 septembre 2010 18:54:24, Thomas Lottmann a écrit : +><i> Le 01/10/2010 01:33, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz a écrit : +</I>><i> > Ehlo All, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Well I got an oportunity on presenting Mageia in Enli2010 conferences +</I>><i> > (www.enli.org.mx). Can we all work on a presentation? So mexican people +</I>><i> > get involved and see this +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I will place initial ODP in a public place so we may place suggestion. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Regards, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > LD +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Sure, there must be a several introductory things that can be told about +</I>><i> Mageia, but it will only be introductory though, as Mageia is still in +</I>><i> construction. +</I> +Yes of course + +i wonder we may get attention +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001677.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001676.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong ref in the blog page +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1678">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1678">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1678">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1678">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001679.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001679.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..694bea05d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001679.html @@ -0,0 +1,110 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C20101001013228.GN1637%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001676.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001680.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size</H1> + <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C20101001013228.GN1637%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 03:32:29 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001676.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong ref in the blog page +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001680.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1679">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1679">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1679">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1679">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi, + +I did started to contact some people to find Tier1 mirrors. One question +come immediatelly: what will be the size of our mirror tree ? + +To have an idea I checked the mirror of the current Mandriva cooker and +the result make me afraid. + +The current cooker tree (RPMS + installer only) is 88GB (SRPMS + i586 + +x86_64). If I add 3 DVD iso (4GB each) I get around 100GB. + +This mean at the begining our mirror will be ~80 GB and in 3 years (1 +release every 6 months) our tree size will be around 700GB ! + +700GB is an huge size. I know anyone can buy a 1 TB hard drive for a +small price, however this is not the way it works in real datacenter +where people take care to the safety of data (RAID1 is two disk). And +we have to think to future: what will be the size in 6 years ? + +The current full Mandriva mirror is more than 1,2 TB. + +So an immediate question come: should we try to reduce the size ? + +There are solutions, but they implies changes in our development +process and have counter parts: +- using hardlink between RPM: + - can be done for noarch inside a release + - no resiging packages from cooker to stable at release (rpm changes, + any possible hardlink get broken) +- do not push -debug: will bother others developers +- removing old distro (having another tree for old): this usualy + bother people having old distribution still working on some + computers, 3 years is not a so long timelife + +So: +- is this kind of size an issue ? +- do we have to reduce it ? +- do you have comments/idea about this state ? + +Regards. + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101001/7458a1fc/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001676.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong ref in the blog page +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001680.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1679">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1679">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1679">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1679">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001680.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001680.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..93a03eb5f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001680.html @@ -0,0 +1,114 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA54436.60306%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001679.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001688.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size</H1> + <B>chag</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA54436.60306%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">chagam at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 04:15:18 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001679.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001688.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1680">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1680">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1680">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1680">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hello, + +Today, you can find 1To SATA hard disks around 60€ (vat included). I +shouldn't be to hard to have too I guess.if there's 100persons on this +list, each gives 1.5€ and you are done with the 2x1To hard disks in RAID. + +Chag + +Le 01/10/2010 03:32, Olivier Thauvin a écrit : +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I did started to contact some people to find Tier1 mirrors. One question +</I>><i> come immediatelly: what will be the size of our mirror tree ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> To have an idea I checked the mirror of the current Mandriva cooker and +</I>><i> the result make me afraid. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The current cooker tree (RPMS + installer only) is 88GB (SRPMS + i586 + +</I>><i> x86_64). If I add 3 DVD iso (4GB each) I get around 100GB. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This mean at the begining our mirror will be ~80 GB and in 3 years (1 +</I>><i> release every 6 months) our tree size will be around 700GB ! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 700GB is an huge size. I know anyone can buy a 1 TB hard drive for a +</I>><i> small price, however this is not the way it works in real datacenter +</I>><i> where people take care to the safety of data (RAID1 is two disk). And +</I>><i> we have to think to future: what will be the size in 6 years ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The current full Mandriva mirror is more than 1,2 TB. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So an immediate question come: should we try to reduce the size ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There are solutions, but they implies changes in our development +</I>><i> process and have counter parts: +</I>><i> - using hardlink between RPM: +</I>><i> - can be done for noarch inside a release +</I>><i> - no resiging packages from cooker to stable at release (rpm changes, +</I>><i> any possible hardlink get broken) +</I>><i> - do not push -debug: will bother others developers +</I>><i> - removing old distro (having another tree for old): this usualy +</I>><i> bother people having old distribution still working on some +</I>><i> computers, 3 years is not a so long timelife +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So: +</I>><i> - is this kind of size an issue ? +</I>><i> - do we have to reduce it ? +</I>><i> - do you have comments/idea about this state ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +-- +"Ca ne marche pas" ne veut rien dire. Alors ne dites rien (ou développez !) +"it doesn't work" means nothing. So, say nothing (or say more !) + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001679.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001688.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1680">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1680">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1680">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1680">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001681.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001681.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ef1b50861 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001681.html @@ -0,0 +1,112 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C201009301930.59068.thomas%40btspuhler.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001706.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001685.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size</H1> + <B>Thomas Spuhler</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C201009301930.59068.thomas%40btspuhler.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">thomas at btspuhler.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 04:30:58 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001706.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001685.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1681">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1681">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1681">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1681">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thursday, September 30, 2010 06:32:29 pm Olivier Thauvin wrote: +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I did started to contact some people to find Tier1 mirrors. One question +</I>><i> come immediatelly: what will be the size of our mirror tree ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> To have an idea I checked the mirror of the current Mandriva cooker and +</I>><i> the result make me afraid. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The current cooker tree (RPMS + installer only) is 88GB (SRPMS + i586 + +</I>><i> x86_64). If I add 3 DVD iso (4GB each) I get around 100GB. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This mean at the begining our mirror will be ~80 GB and in 3 years (1 +</I>><i> release every 6 months) our tree size will be around 700GB ! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 700GB is an huge size. I know anyone can buy a 1 TB hard drive for a +</I>><i> small price, however this is not the way it works in real datacenter +</I>><i> where people take care to the safety of data (RAID1 is two disk). And +</I>><i> we have to think to future: what will be the size in 6 years ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The current full Mandriva mirror is more than 1,2 TB. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So an immediate question come: should we try to reduce the size ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There are solutions, but they implies changes in our development +</I>><i> process and have counter parts: +</I>><i> - using hardlink between RPM: +</I>><i> - can be done for noarch inside a release +</I>><i> - no resiging packages from cooker to stable at release (rpm changes, +</I>><i> any possible hardlink get broken) +</I>><i> - do not push -debug: will bother others developers +</I>><i> - removing old distro (having another tree for old): this usualy +</I>><i> bother people having old distribution still working on some +</I>><i> computers, 3 years is not a so long timelife +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So: +</I>><i> - is this kind of size an issue ? +</I>><i> - do we have to reduce it ? +</I>><i> - do you have comments/idea about this state ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards. +</I>Isn't the SVN that uses most of the space? Do we need to have everything back +to the beginning incl all releases? + +-- +Thomas +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001706.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001685.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1681">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1681">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1681">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1681">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001682.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001682.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..82fd78650 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001682.html @@ -0,0 +1,100 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Chinese%20translation%20for%20Mageia%27s%20page&In-Reply-To=%3C8CD2F295AADC11B-D34-10C09%40web-mmc-d03.sysops.aol.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001767.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001683.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page</H1> + <B>futureway at asia.com</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Chinese%20translation%20for%20Mageia%27s%20page&In-Reply-To=%3C8CD2F295AADC11B-D34-10C09%40web-mmc-d03.sysops.aol.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page">futureway at asia.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 04:41:59 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001767.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001683.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1682">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1682">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1682">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1682">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Sorry, I once confused the two words "fork" and "branch". It is +difficult to exactly translate the word "fork" into Chinese. Now, I feel +that, the word "fork" has the meaning "parallel and independent", while +the word "branch" has the meaning "dependent". So, "fork" is not +"branch". Can the word "fork" be translated into "衍生 +"? +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001767.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001683.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1682">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1682">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1682">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1682">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001683.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001683.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0e0e1d208 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001683.html @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Chinese%20translation%20for%20Mageia%27s%20page&In-Reply-To=%3C201010011057.00848.franklin%40goodhorse.idv.tw%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001682.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001684.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page</H1> + <B>Frank Weng (a.k.a. Franklin)</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Chinese%20translation%20for%20Mageia%27s%20page&In-Reply-To=%3C201010011057.00848.franklin%40goodhorse.idv.tw%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page">franklin at goodhorse.idv.tw + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 04:56:57 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001682.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001684.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1683">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1683">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1683">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1683">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>在 週五 01 十月 2010 10:41:59，<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">futureway at asia.com</A> 寫道: +><i> Sorry, I once confused the two words "fork" and "branch". It is +</I>><i> difficult to exactly translate the word "fork" into Chinese. Now, I feel +</I>><i> that, the word "fork" has the meaning "parallel and independent", while +</I>><i> the word "branch" has the meaning "dependent". So, "fork" is not +</I>><i> "branch". Can the word "fork" be translated into "衍生 +</I>><i> "? +</I> + +IMO, fork: 衍生，branch: 分支 + +But translations are for people using this language. 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It is difficult to +</I>><i> exactly translate the word "fork" into Chinese. Now, I feel that, the word +</I>><i> "fork" has the meaning "parallel and independent", while the word "branch" +</I>><i> has the meaning "dependent". So, "fork" is not "branch". Can the word "fork" +</I>><i> be translated into "衍生"? +</I>No. "衍生" often refers to derivative rather than fork. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001683.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001686.html">[Mageia-discuss] logo proposal +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1684">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1684">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1684">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1684">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001685.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001685.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7063e9414 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001685.html @@ -0,0 +1,122 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DQY%3DqX-dJc_Fu1uNvg4_xCddV%2BneS27QPrwnDM%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001681.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001694.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DQY%3DqX-dJc_Fu1uNvg4_xCddV%2BneS27QPrwnDM%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 05:16:39 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001681.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001694.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1685">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1685">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1685">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1685">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 1 October 2010 04:30, Thomas Spuhler <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>> wrote: +><i> On Thursday, September 30, 2010 06:32:29 pm Olivier Thauvin wrote: +</I>>><i> Hi, +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I did started to contact some people to find Tier1 mirrors. One question +</I>>><i> come immediatelly: what will be the size of our mirror tree ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> To have an idea I checked the mirror of the current Mandriva cooker and +</I>>><i> the result make me afraid. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The current cooker tree (RPMS + installer only) is 88GB (SRPMS + i586 + +</I>>><i> x86_64). If I add 3 DVD iso (4GB each) I get around 100GB. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> This mean at the begining our mirror will be ~80 GB and in 3 years (1 +</I>>><i> release every 6 months) our tree size will be around 700GB ! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> 700GB is an huge size. I know anyone can buy a 1 TB hard drive for a +</I>>><i> small price, however this is not the way it works in real datacenter +</I>>><i> where people take care to the safety of data (RAID1 is two disk). And +</I>>><i> we have to think to future: what will be the size in 6 years ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The current full Mandriva mirror is more than 1,2 TB. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> So an immediate question come: should we try to reduce the size ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> There are solutions, but they implies changes in our development +</I>>><i> process and have counter parts: +</I>>><i> - using hardlink between RPM: +</I>>><i>   - can be done for noarch inside a release +</I>>><i>   - no resiging packages from cooker to stable at release (rpm changes, +</I>>><i>     any possible hardlink get broken) +</I>>><i> - do not push -debug: will bother others developers +</I>>><i> - removing old distro (having another tree for old): this usualy +</I>>><i>   bother people having old distribution still working on some +</I>>><i>   computers, 3 years is not a so long timelife +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> So: +</I>>><i> - is this kind of size an issue ? +</I>>><i> - do we have to reduce it ? +</I>>><i> - do you have comments/idea about this state ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Regards. +</I>><i> Isn't the SVN that uses most of the space? Do we need to have everything back +</I>><i> to the beginning incl all releases? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Thomas +</I>><i> +</I> +IHMO, SVN (and SRPMS) are more important than binary packages, no +point keeping a twig and killing the tree it came from, right? +especially as SVN logs explain why every thing concerning a particular +package was done in a certain way... + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001681.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001694.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1685">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1685">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1685">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1685">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001686.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001686.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a78f70bc4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001686.html @@ -0,0 +1,127 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] logo proposal + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20logo%20proposal&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimpQtE%3DxJGFf0455CVfcO_zy%3DTFGLADKKjTM00x%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001684.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001687.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] logo proposal</H1> + <B>Ricardo Manuel Arroyo Alvarado</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20logo%20proposal&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimpQtE%3DxJGFf0455CVfcO_zy%3DTFGLADKKjTM00x%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] logo proposal">rarroyo23 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 05:59:44 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001684.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001687.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1686">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1686">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1686">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1686">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Thanks. + + +2010/9/30 Maurice Batey <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>> + +><i> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 17:36:18 -0600, Ricardo Manuel Arroyo Alvarado wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/43049453@N04/sets/72157625062936156/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/43049453@N04/sets/72157625062936156/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> the 'purple eye' icon is quite nice! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> /\/\aurice +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> + +-- +Ricardo M. 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And this is our community. You and I use +the same native language -- Chinese, though we use different Chinese +characters. (I don't mind if you use the traditional Chinse characters, +and I also can read them because I am interested in ancient books.) + +"分叉" can be used as "a fork of a road", but "分支" is used as "a branch of +a tree", right? However, "fork" also has a meaning "branch" in many +dictionaries. There is another difficult word "hack", and it is also +difficult to be exactly translated into Chinese. + +You can directly modify my Chinese translation (Skiper had sent it to +the site), or put your Chinese translation on the site's front page. I +wish to see a Chinese page in the site. :) + +Linux +Lover +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001686.html">[Mageia-discuss] logo proposal +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001689.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1687">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1687">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1687">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1687">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001688.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001688.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..93824b37d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001688.html @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA57B34.4040903%40iki.fi%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001680.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001690.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size</H1> + <B>Thomas Backlund</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA57B34.4040903%40iki.fi%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">tmb at iki.fi + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 08:09:56 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001680.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001690.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1688">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1688">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1688">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1688">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>chag skrev 1.10.2010 05:15: + +[top posting fixed] +><i> +</I>><i> Le 01/10/2010 03:32, Olivier Thauvin a écrit : +</I>>><i> Hi, +</I>>><i> +</I>[...] +>><i> The current cooker tree (RPMS + installer only) is 88GB (SRPMS + i586 + +</I>>><i> x86_64). If I add 3 DVD iso (4GB each) I get around 100GB. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> This mean at the begining our mirror will be ~80 GB and in 3 years (1 +</I>>><i> release every 6 months) our tree size will be around 700GB ! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> 700GB is an huge size. I know anyone can buy a 1 TB hard drive for a +</I>>><i> small price, however this is not the way it works in real datacenter +</I>>><i> where people take care to the safety of data (RAID1 is two disk). And +</I>>><i> we have to think to future: what will be the size in 6 years ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The current full Mandriva mirror is more than 1,2 TB. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> So an immediate question come: should we try to reduce the size ? +</I>>><i> +</I> +><i> +</I>><i> Today, you can find 1To SATA hard disks around 60€ (vat included). I +</I>><i> shouldn't be to hard to have too I guess.if there's 100persons on this +</I>><i> list, each gives 1.5€ and you are done with the 2x1To hard disks in RAID. +</I>><i> +</I> +The problem is not the Mageia internal or reference mirror. +The problem is do we get enough big, fast and reliable mirrors that: +1. can be a Tier1 +2. want to host that much data + +This also affects how many downstream mirrors that want to help, +as they all ask: "do we want to host another ~1TB or so..." + +And without enough good Tier1 mirrors, the few (one?) existing ones will +be overloaded, and mirroring will take a long time, meaning several +mirrors will have outdated / not fully synced mirrors -> Mageia gets +complaints about unreliable mirrors... + +So it's sure something to think about... +-- +Thomas + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001680.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001690.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1688">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1688">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1688">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1688">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001689.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001689.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ef6cf1ff0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001689.html @@ -0,0 +1,132 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Chinese%20translation%20for%20Mageia%27s%20page&In-Reply-To=%3C201010011415.01202.franklin%40goodhorse.idv.tw%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001687.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001702.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page</H1> + <B>Frank Weng (a.k.a. Franklin)</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Chinese%20translation%20for%20Mageia%27s%20page&In-Reply-To=%3C201010011415.01202.franklin%40goodhorse.idv.tw%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page">franklin at goodhorse.idv.tw + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 08:14:59 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001687.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001702.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1689">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1689">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1689">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1689">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>在 週五 01 十月 2010 13:57:54，<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">futureway at asia.com</A> 寫道: +><i> I have no other community now. And this is our community. You and I use +</I>><i> the same native language -- Chinese, though we use different Chinese +</I>><i> characters. (I don't mind if you use the traditional Chinse characters, +</I>><i> and I also can read them because I am interested in ancient books.) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> "分叉" can be used as "a fork of a road", but "分支" is used as "a branch of +</I>><i> a tree", right? However, "fork" also has a meaning "branch" in many +</I>><i> dictionaries. There is another difficult word "hack", and it is also +</I>><i> difficult to be exactly translated into Chinese. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You can directly modify my Chinese translation (Skiper had sent it to +</I>><i> the site), or put your Chinese translation on the site's front page. I +</I>><i> wish to see a Chinese page in the site. :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Linux +</I>><i> Lover +</I> +"衍生" may be more like the word "derivative", but for "fork" here I think the +meaning is not too far. + +I just read again the traditional Chinese translations for the Mageia +announce. "Forking" here our translators used "分支". Actually they are all +almost the same meanings, and I don't think it necessary to use different to +"tell apart" from them all. + +BTW, I don't know if it is appropriate to discuss these translations on +discuss mailing list, or even i18n mailing list, since these discussions are +for certain langauge. Here in Taiwan we formed a google group for mageia +Taiwan users for discussing. 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Christeas</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C201010011018.34802.p_christ%40hol.gr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">p_christ at hol.gr + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 09:18:34 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001712.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001706.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1693">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1693">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1693">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1693">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Friday 01 October 2010, chag wrote: +><i> Hello, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Today, you can find 1To SATA hard disks around 60€ (vat included). +</I> +I don't think it works that way. You don't just go to the local shop, buy 2 +disks and stick them in the data center. + + +-- +Say NO to spam and viruses. Stop using Microsoft Windows! +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001712.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001706.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1693">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1693">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1693">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1693">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001694.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001694.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f37288640 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001694.html @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C201010011020.22190.p_christ%40hol.gr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001685.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001698.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size</H1> + <B>P. Christeas</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C201010011020.22190.p_christ%40hol.gr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">p_christ at hol.gr + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 09:20:21 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001685.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001698.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1694">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1694">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1694">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1694">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Friday 01 October 2010, Thomas Spuhler wrote: +><i> Isn't the SVN that uses most of the space? Do we need to have everything +</I>><i> back to the beginning incl all releases? +</I> +That's *exacly* the problem, and people fail to open their eyes to +alternatives. + + +-- +Say NO to spam and viruses. 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+</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> There are solutions, but they implies changes in our development +</I>>><i> process and have counter parts: +</I>>><i> - using hardlink between RPM: +</I>>><i> - can be done for noarch inside a release +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Should be done. +</I>><i> +</I> +Oh, and this is why I have suggested from time to time to break noarch +out of arch trees, so: + +SRPMS +i586 +x86_64 + +would turn into: + +SRPMS +i586 +noarch +x86_64 + +or given the -debug question even: + +SRPMS +debug +i586 +noarch +x86_64 + + +And then add to the Mirroring FAQ (for endusers) that you need noarch in +addition to the arch you want to mirror. + +Of course this means some changes to the upload system +(installer / mirror manager should be simple as they read media.cfg) + +-- +Thomas + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001691.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001699.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1695">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1695">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1695">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1695">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001696.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001696.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f0a013031 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001696.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C201010011036.28216.stormi%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001741.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001754.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size</H1> + <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C201010011036.28216.stormi%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">stormi at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 10:36:28 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001741.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001754.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1696">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1696">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1696">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1696">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> +Le vendredi 1 octobre 2010 03:32:29, Olivier Thauvin a écrit : +><i> So an immediate question come: should we try to reduce the size ? +</I> +Games are often big packages (~500 Mb of data), and there tends to be more and more of them. Plus, we like to backport the last version to previous distribution releases. + +I don't suggest to drop games, because to me they are an important part of the repositories, but what about creating a separate repository for games ? Mirrors could choose to mirror it or not, depending on the space they can offer ? + +Regards + +Samuel Verschelde + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001741.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001754.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1696">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1696">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1696">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1696">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001697.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001697.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c2dec5280 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001697.html @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C1285922820.5530.303.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001698.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001707.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C1285922820.5530.303.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 10:47:00 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001698.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001707.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1697">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1697">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1697">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1697">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le jeudi 30 septembre 2010 à 19:30 -0700, Thomas Spuhler a écrit : + +><i> Isn't the SVN that uses most of the space? Do we need to have everything back +</I>><i> to the beginning incl all releases? +</I>><i> +</I> +Svn is not present on every mirror, so this is not relevant to the +discussion, no ? + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001698.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001707.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1697">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1697">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1697">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1697">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001698.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001698.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e471aa997 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001698.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C1285922876.5530.306.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001694.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001697.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C1285922876.5530.306.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 10:47:56 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001694.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001697.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1698">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1698">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1698">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1698">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le vendredi 01 octobre 2010 à 10:20 +0300, P. Christeas a écrit : +><i> On Friday 01 October 2010, Thomas Spuhler wrote: +</I>><i> > Isn't the SVN that uses most of the space? Do we need to have everything +</I>><i> > back to the beginning incl all releases? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's *exacly* the problem, and people fail to open their eyes to +</I>><i> alternatives. +</I> +Alternatives to the current system ( ie sources in svn ) were discussed +on maintainers@, but we didn't have to implement them. + + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001694.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001697.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1698">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1698">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1698">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1698">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001699.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001699.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..de4a89917 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001699.html @@ -0,0 +1,111 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C1285923017.5530.315.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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If the stated goals of Mageia are clear and marry well with +the mirror site philosophies then we could probably convince sites to +mirror Mageia. + +Taking a look at mirror sites, it is evident that the larger mirrors are +universities and educational institutions. If Mageia goals are to +construct a linux distro with emphasis on serving the educational needs +of its users, then this may help in convincing sites to mirror Mageia +repos. This does not mean that ALL of Mageia would be focused on the +educational aspect of the distro but the MAIN focus of goals is the +educational aspect of the distro. + +I also agree, that seeing as games take a big chunk of the size of the +storage considerations, it may be best to establish a mirror distro. +Mageia could maybe see if another distro would be interested in +cooperating and pooling resources and help in establishing a mirror +service solely for games service. + +I also helps if some of the devs are university students and they may be +able to convince their particular university to host a repository. But I +expect that universities would want to see clear stated objectives of a +new distro's philosophy before taking on a mirror. + +I don't think that we could use the "We are the Mandriva community +replacement." argument, as Mandriva has clearly stated that their +consumer distro will be developed by devs from emerging countries rather +than in Europe. In fact, this argument itself from Mandriva gives them +more reason as to why educational institutions may continue to carry +their mirrors. + +Would it be enough to convince one university for each country to carry +a mirror of Mageia at this time? Would this be enough to start of with? + +Marc + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001700.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001709.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1701">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1701">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1701">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1701">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001702.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001702.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..325437960 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001702.html @@ -0,0 +1,132 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Chinese%20translation%20for%20Mageia%27s%20page&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA5B8FC.3090105%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001689.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001717.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page</H1> + <B>Thomas Lottmann</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Chinese%20translation%20for%20Mageia%27s%20page&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA5B8FC.3090105%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page">skiperdrake at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 12:33:32 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001689.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001717.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1702">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1702">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1702">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1702">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> Le 01/10/2010 08:14, Frank Weng (a.k.a. Franklin) a écrit : +><i> 在 週五 01 十月 2010 13:57:54，<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">futureway at asia.com</A> 寫道: +</I>>><i> I have no other community now. And this is our community. You and I use +</I>>><i> the same native language -- Chinese, though we use different Chinese +</I>>><i> characters. (I don't mind if you use the traditional Chinse characters, +</I>>><i> and I also can read them because I am interested in ancient books.) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> "分叉" can be used as "a fork of a road", but "分支" is used as "a branch of +</I>>><i> a tree", right? However, "fork" also has a meaning "branch" in many +</I>>><i> dictionaries. There is another difficult word "hack", and it is also +</I>>><i> difficult to be exactly translated into Chinese. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> You can directly modify my Chinese translation (Skiper had sent it to +</I>>><i> the site), or put your Chinese translation on the site's front page. I +</I>>><i> wish to see a Chinese page in the site. :) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Linux +</I>>><i> Lover +</I>><i> "衍生" may be more like the word "derivative", but for "fork" here I think the +</I>><i> meaning is not too far. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I just read again the traditional Chinese translations for the Mageia +</I>><i> announce. "Forking" here our translators used "分支". Actually they are all +</I>><i> almost the same meanings, and I don't think it necessary to use different to +</I>><i> "tell apart" from them all. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> BTW, I don't know if it is appropriate to discuss these translations on +</I>><i> discuss mailing list, or even i18n mailing list, since these discussions are +</I>><i> for certain langauge. Here in Taiwan we formed a google group for mageia +</I>><i> Taiwan users for discussing. Maybe you can try to form one too. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Franklin +</I>Isn't that too heavy? + +I mean, if the translation is fine enough to be understandable according +to it's author or authors, can't it be published more simply? + +Linux Lover isn't very used to mailing lists yet. Managing a google +group while he is almost the only one to participate in China is perhaps +not helping much. So I guess there is no need to block the publishing of +one translation because of a simple word... it can be fixed later if +really it is not understandable at all. + +...how about a translation for "division" or "split" or "scission" if +the current word for the fork process really is not that good? + +Thomas. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101001/dfe3d0cf/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001689.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001717.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1702">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1702">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1702">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1702">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001703.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001703.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d590b35ca --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001703.html @@ -0,0 +1,155 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%20Host%20Mandriva%20tools%0A%09on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimK%3DMaASuGhf_g2We%2B5Nt6-%2Bh9GcsRdqxQMcH4d%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001717.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001705.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github</H1> + <B>Fabrice Facorat</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%20Host%20Mandriva%20tools%0A%09on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimK%3DMaASuGhf_g2We%2B5Nt6-%2Bh9GcsRdqxQMcH4d%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github">fabrice.facorat at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 12:38:31 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001717.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001705.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1703">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1703">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1703">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1703">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I've been following closely all the Mandriva vs Mageia story. I found +it unfortunate that we have to come to this way, but I guess there's a +serious fracture between Mandriva and part of its community. We have +no choice except to cope with this and try to do our best to allow +this unfortunate situation to found a sensible solution in the future. + +As we know, one of the Mandriva strenght are the Mandriva tools, +however Mandriva tools have some issues : +- they are written in perl. Sorry for perl dev, but I do still think +that perl is harder to understand than C-like based syntax langages. +However we must admit that we are not going to rewrite all the +Mandriva tools ;-) However better documentation ( PerlDoc tags ) could +help a little. + +- Mandriva tools are not used by others distributions ( except +PCLinuxOS, United Linux, and ... Mageia ) and so have few external +contributions : They notably lack visibility. + +I do think also that Mandriva will have to use its ressources in an +efficient way. + +Here aree my proposals, feel free to discuss : + +1. host Mandriva tools on github or code.google.com. This will ease +fork maintenance and tracking, to contribute back ( without having to +have a Mandriva account ) + +2. Make some decisions about the tools we should keep, and the ones we +should ... trash. For example we did replace printerdrake with +system-config-printer ( python ), and msec have been rewritten ( +python ). Whereas I do think that system-config-printer is way buggier +than printerdrake, I guess that at some points, we will have to do +this more and more : replace some Mandriva tools with for example some +Fedora ones. Please note however that this bring its own issues : +python vs perl, and the integration with the rest of Mandriva +infrastructure + +3. A decision will have to be made concerning net_applet and NetworkManager + +4. Whereas I do love rpmdrake, I do think also that something will +have to be done about it as its UI is clearly outdated and not on par +with the competition : +- Ubuntu software center : +<A HREF="http://seilo.geekyogre.com/2010/09/software-center-with-a-dose-of-zeitgeist-and-maybe-teamgeist/">http://seilo.geekyogre.com/2010/09/software-center-with-a-dose-of-zeitgeist-and-maybe-teamgeist/</A> +, <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Software_Center">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Software_Center</A> , +<A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter</A> +- iTunes App Store : +<A HREF="http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how_to_download_iphone_apps_from_apple_itunes_store.html">http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how_to_download_iphone_apps_from_apple_itunes_store.html</A> +, <A HREF="http://cybernetnews.com/download-iphone-firmware-20-itunes-77-app-store-and-more/">http://cybernetnews.com/download-iphone-firmware-20-itunes-77-app-store-and-more/</A> +- Interesting discussion about PackageKit direction : +<A HREF="http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/a-story-about-updates-and-people/">http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/a-story-about-updates-and-people/</A> + +So we may have to completely rewrite rpmdrake UI or switch to +packagekit with and urpmi backend. + +5. Junior tasks contributions. I noticed while visiting the +LibreOffice website. They have junior task for people willing to +contribute to the codebase, and most of theses junior tasks consist to +improve code clarity, fix comments. I guess that the same thing could +be done with Mandriva tools, notably adding perldoc tags/comments. + +Last but not least, I know that on Mageia ML, there was a discussion +about the people we should target. Here are some interesting +reflexions : +Sweet Caroline : <A HREF="http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/02/sweet-caroline/">http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/02/sweet-caroline/</A> +fedoraproject.org redesign update : +<A HREF="http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/03/fedoraproject-org-redesign-update/">http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/03/fedoraproject-org-redesign-update/</A> +You must be this tall to ride: __ : +<A HREF="http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/10/01/you-must-be-this-tall-to-ride-__/">http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/10/01/you-must-be-this-tall-to-ride-__/</A> + + +-- +Close the World, Open the Net +<A HREF="http://www.linux-wizard.net">http://www.linux-wizard.net</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001717.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001705.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1703">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1703">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1703">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1703">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001704.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001704.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..66c267945 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001704.html @@ -0,0 +1,115 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3Cm3d3rury0j.fsf%40euphor.blino.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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This will ease +</I>><i> fork maintenance and tracking, to contribute back ( without having to +</I>><i> have a Mandriva account ) +</I> +Why host them externally? +A self-hosted "forge" is probably better. + +But actually, just moving to git could make contributions easier, +because of the ability for developpers to commit locally, and push +incremental patchsets. + +-- +Olivier Blin - blino +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001703.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001716.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1705">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1705">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1705">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1705">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001706.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001706.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a117b65f2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001706.html @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C20101001105708.GO1637%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001693.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001681.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size</H1> + <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C20101001105708.GO1637%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 12:57:08 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001681.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1706">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1706">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1706">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1706">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>* chag (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">chagam at gmail.com</A>) wrote: +><i> Hello, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Today, you can find 1To SATA hard disks around 60€ (vat included). I +</I>><i> shouldn't be to hard to have too I guess.if there's 100persons on this +</I>><i> list, each gives 1.5€ and you are done with the 2x1To hard disks in RAID. +</I> +If you take into account performance, maintenance and having disk not +failing into 3 months the price is not just 2x60 €. + +A professional sata disk is more around 100€. + +Saying that, the global size Mageia will need is more around 2 or 3 Tera +if you add BS, SVN, Mirrors, users home, etc... + +Obiouvsly, managing such size is a bit more complex: you'll need RAID5 +or RAID6, 4 to 6 disks and a computer with enough disk slot. + +We cannot manage our server like a desktop if we do not want to be face +to problem later ! + +On mirror size the problem is bigger, you have to permanently check you +have enough disk space and adding 1TB to the current system is not just +adding a 60€ disk. + +You can have a look to the picture at bottom of the distrib-coffee web +page to understand what I mean: +<A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/</A> +Each array cost around 1500€, but none of them have lost data yet since +it get installed (5 years ago). + +Regards. + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101001/8fe1a1c4/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001681.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1706">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1706">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1706">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1706">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001707.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001707.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bb2d99ea9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001707.html @@ -0,0 +1,84 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C20101001110054.GP1637%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001697.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001691.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size</H1> + <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C20101001110054.GP1637%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 13:00:54 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001697.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001691.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1707">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1707">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1707">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1707">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>* Michael Scherer (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>) wrote: +><i> Le jeudi 30 septembre 2010 à 19:30 -0700, Thomas Spuhler a écrit : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Isn't the SVN that uses most of the space? Do we need to have everything back +</I>><i> > to the beginning incl all releases? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Svn is not present on every mirror, so this is not relevant to the +</I>><i> discussion, no ? +</I> +Svn is not on any mirror. All size I gave only refer to RPMs + installer ++ ISO. + +FYI: current svn size if 500 GB. + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101001/2d52709e/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001697.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001691.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1707">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1707">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1707">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1707">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001708.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001708.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a0f0cea48 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001708.html @@ -0,0 +1,111 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%0A%20Host%20Mandriva%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3CPine.LNX.4.44.1010011259530.15309-100000%40outpost-priv%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001720.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001711.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github</H1> + <B>Tux99</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%0A%20Host%20Mandriva%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3CPine.LNX.4.44.1010011259530.15309-100000%40outpost-priv%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github">tux99-mga at uridium.org + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 13:03:14 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001720.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001711.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1708">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1708">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1708">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1708">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, Marc Paré wrote: + +><i> Just speaking from the "user" point of view. Let us not lose sight that +</I>><i> one of the strong points of Mandriva/Mageia is the use of the MCC. +</I>><i> Having all the controls under one title and well integrated is what +</I>><i> really distinguishes Mandriva from the other distros. Practically in all +</I>><i> of the news items that I have read of Mandriva, they mention the +</I>><i> powerful tools at the users' disposal to help in configure/maintain the +</I>><i> Mandriva distro, and this type of comment has been going on for years. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I hope that Mageia would not stray from this tool. Whichever way the +</I>><i> devs decide to programme the tools from the back-en does not matter to +</I>><i> the user. How easily it is to configure/maintain the distro is what +</I>><i> counts to the user and it is quite a strong selling point. +</I> +100% agree, let's not destroy one of the most outstanding unique selling +points of Mandriva/Mageia, the MCC. + +Don't fix what ain't broken, let's concentrate on improving it but +certainly not on replacing it. + +Somehow I have a feeling this thread will be a deja vu of the rpm vs. +deb thread... + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001720.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001711.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1708">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1708">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1708">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1708">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001709.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001709.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..667e32d51 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001709.html @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA5C19B.7050907%40unige.ch%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001701.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001712.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size</H1> + <B>Juergen Harms</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA5C19B.7050907%40unige.ch%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 13:10:19 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001701.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001712.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1709">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1709">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1709">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1709">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 10/01/2010 11:08 AM, Marc Paré wrote: +><i> I don't think that the mirrors will necessarily drop mirror support for +</I>><i> Mandriva for Mageia because the Mandriva brand does carry some weight +</I>><i> and they have not, as of yet' abandoned the developing MandrivaLinux. +</I>><i> They are still in the server market and have said that their consumer +</I>><i> product will be carried on as usual. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This is where the marketing of the Mageia brand would maybe make a +</I>><i> difference. If the stated goals of Mageia are clear and marry well with +</I>><i> the mirror site philosophies then we could probably convince sites to +</I>><i> mirror Mageia. +</I> +This thread has 2 issues, my comment is on the public mirror topic: + +I had, a couple of months back, a discussion with the group-leader at +Switch who is responsible for managing the Switch mirror site: the +Mandriva repositories had all at sudden disappeared from that mirror. + +I was told that removing Mandriva had been a strategy decision, trying +to confine the size of the Switch mirror to a "reasonable" size, and +that the access count to the Mandriva repository did not justify to keep +it. My private opinion is that Switch - an educational organisation - +has made a mistake here. + +That means that mirror sites do watch + - the size of software they keep + - the usage of the corresponding mirror + - the "relevance" of that software. + +It may be a good idea if Mageia initially focuses on getting support +from some few well-placed mirrors who can be convinced that Mageia is a +promising "startup" distro and merits goodwill in a pump-priming spirit. +I guess the language groups could help establishing contacts. + +To come back to my Switch experience: I have still good relations with +their management; at that time, doubts about Mandriva were spreading and +I did not have the necessary arguments for a discussion at that level. +This will be different once Mageia is established and has a "good image" +and a distribution anounced for date xxx. Is it worth while to have a +small group of "advocates" who are mandated by Mageia to talk to mirror +sites and discuss which sites to contact? If that helps (and offloads +the people who do "everything"), I am willing to participate and help). +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001701.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001712.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1709">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1709">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1709">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1709">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001710.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001710.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..64d6c6171 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001710.html @@ -0,0 +1,109 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C20101001111109.GQ1637%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001735.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001731.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size</H1> + <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C20101001111109.GQ1637%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 13:11:09 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001735.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001731.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1710">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1710">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1710">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1710">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>* Thomas Backlund (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tmb at iki.fi</A>) wrote: +><i> Olivier Thauvin skrev 1.10.2010 04:32: +</I>>><i> Hi, +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> [...] +</I>>><i> - no resiging packages from cooker to stable at release (rpm changes, +</I>>><i> any possible hardlink get broken) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If we resign the whole tree and relink it "offline", and then move the +</I>><i> full tree online, does it still break downstream mirrors ? +</I> +After rpm --resign rpm differ between cooker and stable (the signature +changed). So hardlink between cooker and stable is impossible. + +Howerver I have a script to redo hardlink, it allow me to win around 10GB +over the whole mandriva mirror. + +><i> If we need to do the "move current -> old" dance, we need to be careful +</I>><i> so mirrors does not end up resyncing another 100GB every time... +</I>><i> (IIRC you had complaints about how it was done earlier at Mandriva, so +</I>><i> we need to remember those problems) +</I> +By "old" I mean a different tree mirrors can choose to mirror or not. +Not moving the distro from a directory to another. + +In other words this mean archiving the distro and make it removed from +most of our mirror. + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101001/1066462d/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001735.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001731.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1710">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1710">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1710">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1710">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001711.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001711.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0cd15cf19 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001711.html @@ -0,0 +1,106 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%0A%20Host%20Mandriva%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3CPine.LNX.4.44.1010011318390.15309-100000%40outpost-priv%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001708.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001713.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github</H1> + <B>Tux99</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%0A%20Host%20Mandriva%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3CPine.LNX.4.44.1010011318390.15309-100000%40outpost-priv%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github">tux99-mga at uridium.org + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 13:23:08 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001708.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001713.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1711">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1711">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1711">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1711">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, Fabrice Facorat wrote: + +><i> This is about making some decisions about some tools. Some of the +</I>><i> Mandriva tools have outdate UI, cluttered UI and even are sometimes +</I>><i> buggy. +</I>><i> The situation persists since many years already, so at some point we +</I>><i> should ask ourself : are we going to rewrite them, notably the UI, to +</I>><i> make them be more 2010, or should we use another tool with another +</I>><i> GUI. +</I> +Personally I don't see anything wrong with the GUI of the draktools. + +If imrpoving them means to rewrite them from scratch or replace them +with inferior tools from other distros, then that would be a big effort +and/or step backwards just for the estetics. + +Substance counts a lot more than appearance to me. + +P.S: cc'ing in both cooker and mageia lists is not a good idea as many +people are not on both lists so the discussion will just split in two + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001708.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001713.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1711">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1711">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1711">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1711">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001712.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001712.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f385d9dd6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001712.html @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3Ci84gk4%24af%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001709.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001693.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3Ci84gk4%24af%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 13:28:03 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001709.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1712">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1712">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1712">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1712">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> +</I>><i> This thread has 2 issues, my comment is on the public mirror topic: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I had, a couple of months back, a discussion with the group-leader at +</I>><i> Switch who is responsible for managing the Switch mirror site: the +</I>><i> Mandriva repositories had all at sudden disappeared from that mirror. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I was told that removing Mandriva had been a strategy decision, trying +</I>><i> to confine the size of the Switch mirror to a "reasonable" size, and +</I>><i> that the access count to the Mandriva repository did not justify to keep +</I>><i> it. My private opinion is that Switch - an educational organisation - +</I>><i> has made a mistake here. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That means that mirror sites do watch +</I>><i> - the size of software they keep +</I>><i> - the usage of the corresponding mirror +</I>><i> - the "relevance" of that software. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It may be a good idea if Mageia initially focuses on getting support +</I>><i> from some few well-placed mirrors who can be convinced that Mageia is a +</I>><i> promising "startup" distro and merits goodwill in a pump-priming spirit. +</I>><i> I guess the language groups could help establishing contacts. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> To come back to my Switch experience: I have still good relations with +</I>><i> their management; at that time, doubts about Mandriva were spreading and +</I>><i> I did not have the necessary arguments for a discussion at that level. +</I>><i> This will be different once Mageia is established and has a "good image" +</I>><i> and a distribution anounced for date xxx. Is it worth while to have a +</I>><i> small group of "advocates" who are mandated by Mageia to talk to mirror +</I>><i> sites and discuss which sites to contact? If that helps (and offloads +</I>><i> the people who do "everything"), I am willing to participate and help). +</I>><i> +</I> +I think at this point, it is more of who you know personally at a +potential "mirror site" location that will most likely help out. Mirror +space is not taken lightly as it normally involves a certain amount of +strain on the mirror site system. However, in the same breath, if the +traffic on the mirror does not show enough usage, then it is considered +a misuse of space and , like you said, in the case of the Switch mirror, +the mirror is shut down. + +Plus, if there is still no movement in the Cauldron showing that it is a +going concern, then most mirror sites will only say to come back to talk +to us only when you have something to show. + +Marc + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001709.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1712">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1712">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1712">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1712">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001713.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001713.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..137b5778c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001713.html @@ -0,0 +1,115 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%20Host%20Mandriva%0A%09tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3Ci84gqd%24af%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001711.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001714.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%20Host%20Mandriva%0A%09tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3Ci84gqd%24af%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 13:31:25 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001711.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001714.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1713">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1713">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1713">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1713">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-10-01 07:23, Tux99 a écrit : +><i> On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, Fabrice Facorat wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> This is about making some decisions about some tools. Some of the +</I>>><i> Mandriva tools have outdate UI, cluttered UI and even are sometimes +</I>>><i> buggy. +</I>>><i> The situation persists since many years already, so at some point we +</I>>><i> should ask ourself : are we going to rewrite them, notably the UI, to +</I>>><i> make them be more 2010, or should we use another tool with another +</I>>><i> GUI. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Personally I don't see anything wrong with the GUI of the draktools. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If imrpoving them means to rewrite them from scratch or replace them +</I>><i> with inferior tools from other distros, then that would be a big effort +</I>><i> and/or step backwards just for the estetics. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Substance counts a lot more than appearance to me. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> P.S: cc'ing in both cooker and mageia lists is not a good idea as many +</I>><i> people are not on both lists so the discussion will just split in two +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +Ooops, Tux99, it also looks like your post has broken the thread on the +dev side. + +The thread probably best belongs on the dev mailist. + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001711.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001714.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1713">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1713">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1713">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1713">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001714.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001714.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..486401abc --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001714.html @@ -0,0 +1,105 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%20Host%20Mandriva%0A%09tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3Ci84h5l%24af%243%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001713.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001719.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%20Host%20Mandriva%0A%09tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3Ci84h5l%24af%243%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 13:37:25 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001713.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001719.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1714">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1714">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1714">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1714">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> +>><i> +</I>>><i> P.S: cc'ing in both cooker and mageia lists is not a good idea as many +</I>>><i> people are not on both lists so the discussion will just split in two +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ooops, Tux99, it also looks like your post has broken the thread on the +</I>><i> dev side. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The thread probably best belongs on the dev mailist. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>Oops again, I thought I was responding on the dev mailist side. How +funny is that? + +Marc + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001713.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001719.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1714">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1714">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1714">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1714">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001715.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001715.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..475b75e02 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001715.html @@ -0,0 +1,206 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%20Host%20Mandriva%0A%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA5D0BB.5000201%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001728.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002127.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github</H1> + <B>Thomas Lottmann</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%20Host%20Mandriva%0A%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA5D0BB.5000201%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github">skiperdrake at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 14:14:51 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001728.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002127.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1715">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1715">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1715">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1715">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> Le 01/10/2010 12:38, Fabrice Facorat a écrit : +><i> I've been following closely all the Mandriva vs Mageia story. I found +</I>><i> it unfortunate that we have to come to this way, but I guess there's a +</I>><i> serious fracture between Mandriva and part of its community. We have +</I>><i> no choice except to cope with this and try to do our best to allow +</I>><i> this unfortunate situation to found a sensible solution in the future. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As we know, one of the Mandriva strenght are the Mandriva tools, +</I>><i> however Mandriva tools have some issues : +</I>><i> - they are written in perl. Sorry for perl dev, but I do still think +</I>><i> that perl is harder to understand than C-like based syntax langages. +</I>><i> However we must admit that we are not going to rewrite all the +</I>><i> Mandriva tools ;-) However better documentation ( PerlDoc tags ) could +</I>><i> help a little. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - Mandriva tools are not used by others distributions ( except +</I>><i> PCLinuxOS, United Linux, and ... Mageia ) and so have few external +</I>><i> contributions : They notably lack visibility. +</I> +I do agree with this. + +><i> I do think also that Mandriva will have to use its ressources in an +</I>><i> efficient way. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Here aree my proposals, feel free to discuss : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1. host Mandriva tools on github or code.google.com. This will ease +</I>><i> fork maintenance and tracking, to contribute back ( without having to +</I>><i> have a Mandriva account ) +</I> +Yes. Having their own 'site' and independent platform may help. + +><i> 2. Make some decisions about the tools we should keep, and the ones we +</I>><i> should ... trash. For example we did replace printerdrake with +</I>><i> system-config-printer ( python ), and msec have been rewritten ( +</I>><i> python ). Whereas I do think that system-config-printer is way buggier +</I>><i> than printerdrake, I guess that at some points, we will have to do +</I>><i> this more and more : replace some Mandriva tools with for example some +</I>><i> Fedora ones. Please note however that this bring its own issues : +</I>><i> python vs perl, and the integration with the rest of Mandriva +</I>><i> infrastructure +</I> +We need to see what is still functional, what is broken (and so what is +to repair), and what is to drop. Eventually, what is to support and +repair again (printerdrake?) if possible. + +For what I know, there are many tools that work : RPMDrake and related, +Drakstats, Diskdrake, Harddrake, DrakX11, Drak3D, DrakUPS, DrakFirewall, +DrakGuard (wonderful this one) but may networking tools to share network +or use VPN, Samba, NFS, WebDav, and eventually along with Diskdrake, are +broken. Others such as Draksnapshot and DrakSamba (not sure if it works +or not) are a pain due to insufficient functionalities or +outdated/painful GUI. There is a nice theming functionality in the MCC +that is also probably broken or difficult to use, that could be restored +or explained. + +><i> 3. A decision will have to be made concerning net_applet and NetworkManager +</I> +Yes, even though I think we should give another chance to NetApplet and +see what should be fixed to make it better. NetAppler has the advantages +of being linked to DrakFirewall, perhaps other tools, and to be +independent of any environment. + +><i> 4. Whereas I do love rpmdrake, I do think also that something will +</I>><i> have to be done about it as its UI is clearly outdated and not on par +</I>><i> with the competition : +</I>><i> - Ubuntu software center : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://seilo.geekyogre.com/2010/09/software-center-with-a-dose-of-zeitgeist-and-maybe-teamgeist/">http://seilo.geekyogre.com/2010/09/software-center-with-a-dose-of-zeitgeist-and-maybe-teamgeist/</A> +</I>><i> , <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Software_Center">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Software_Center</A> , +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter</A> +</I>><i> - iTunes App Store : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how_to_download_iphone_apps_from_apple_itunes_store.html">http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how_to_download_iphone_apps_from_apple_itunes_store.html</A> +</I>><i> , <A HREF="http://cybernetnews.com/download-iphone-firmware-20-itunes-77-app-store-and-more/">http://cybernetnews.com/download-iphone-firmware-20-itunes-77-app-store-and-more/</A> +</I>><i> - Interesting discussion about PackageKit direction : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/a-story-about-updates-and-people/">http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/a-story-about-updates-and-people/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So we may have to completely rewrite rpmdrake UI or switch to +</I>><i> packagekit with and urpmi backend. +</I> +I still have a very strong faith and appreciation for RPMDrake. I really +think it is well designed and intuitive, despite it's little issues and +being slow (honestly, PackageKit is slow and also has issues so...). + +The real issue that RPMDrake has is it's Aplications with GUI filter. +Even if I think this functionalitiy is really good for beginners, +RPMDrake is a -package- manager. Mandriva does need a real and dedicated +Application manager (could be called an AppCenter) where beginners would +find a way to install (shop?) applications with a very nice layout, +presentation, clear icons, screenshot, and no irritating choice of +hundreds of dependencies with barbaric names. +It might be difficult, but much more convenient for those who just want +things to work in a snap (or in very few clicks). + +This would allow to place back again the default filter on "All" (should +be renamed to "Show all packages") for the RPMDrake package manager. We +would then have an AppCenter and a real package manager for advanced +package management, without forgetting a dedicated tool with GUI to +manage orphans more efficiently. + +Yet, all of this demands a huge lot of work and we will need huge +resources... + +><i> 5. Junior tasks contributions. I noticed while visiting the +</I>><i> LibreOffice website. They have junior task for people willing to +</I>><i> contribute to the codebase, and most of theses junior tasks consist to +</I>><i> improve code clarity, fix comments. I guess that the same thing could +</I>><i> be done with Mandriva tools, notably adding perldoc tags/comments. +</I> +Yes. This will help people from outside understand better how the +program works. Reading the code itself isn't that easy even if it is +well written. + +><i> Last but not least, I know that on Mageia ML, there was a discussion +</I>><i> about the people we should target. Here are some interesting +</I>><i> reflexions : +</I>><i> Sweet Caroline : <A HREF="http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/02/sweet-caroline/">http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/02/sweet-caroline/</A> +</I>><i> fedoraproject.org redesign update : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/03/fedoraproject-org-redesign-update/">http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/03/fedoraproject-org-redesign-update/</A> +</I>><i> You must be this tall to ride: __ : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/10/01/you-must-be-this-tall-to-ride-_">http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/10/01/you-must-be-this-tall-to-ride-_</A>_ +</I> +Will read them when I'll find the time to... + +Thomas. + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001728.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002127.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1715">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1715">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1715">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1715">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001716.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001716.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f721db4c1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001716.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%0A%09Host%20Mandriva%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTima2eyu2QghTqT4-pcs1%2Bg9699wf3eWgg%3DpofK5%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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And this is our community. You and I use the +</I>><i> same native language -- Chinese, though we use different Chinese characters. +</I>><i> (I don't mind if you use the traditional Chinse characters, and I also can +</I>><i> read them because I am interested in ancient books.) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> "分叉" can be used as "a fork of a road", but "分支" is used as "a branch of a +</I>><i> tree", right? However, "fork" also has a meaning "branch" in many +</I>><i> dictionaries. There is another difficult word "hack", and it is also +</I>><i> difficult to be exactly translated into Chinese. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You can directly modify my Chinese translation (Skiper had sent it to the +</I>><i> site), or put your Chinese translation on the site's front page. I wish to +</I>><i> see a Chinese page in the site. :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Linux Lover +</I> +Hello, +Although some people can read both simplified and traditional Chinese +characters, there are users who have difficulty reading one of them, +either simplified or traditional. I suggest no matter in any +circumstances, we should not use only simplified or traditional +Chinese translation to present a single "Chinese" page. Since you have +already made your translation, we can put both zh-CN and zh-TW pages +online for users of both different character forms. + +Regards, + +You-Cheng Hsieh +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001702.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001703.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1717">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1717">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1717">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1717">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001718.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001718.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..60db18dff --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001718.html @@ -0,0 +1,123 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%20Host%20Mandriva%0A%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DLhjYBpDuHdrc23oVkknsPibjstwxhRE%3DPhX9j%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002127.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001720.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github</H1> + <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%20Host%20Mandriva%0A%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DLhjYBpDuHdrc23oVkknsPibjstwxhRE%3DPhX9j%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 15:14:20 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002127.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001720.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1718">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1718">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1718">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1718">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 1 October 2010 12:38, Fabrice Facorat <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">fabrice.facorat at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> As we know, one of the Mandriva strenght are the Mandriva tools, +</I>><i> however Mandriva tools have some issues : +</I>><i> - they are written in perl. Sorry for perl dev, but I do still think +</I>><i> that perl is harder to understand than C-like based syntax langages. +</I> +That's your point of view. Every programmer will have its own POV. +Thus this is a void argument. + +I think an higher language makes the entry barrier smaller for new programmers: +- real algorithms are not in hidden/drown malloc/free spagetti +- no memory bugs +- no security issues b/c of poorly thinked/coded memory management + +What's more, with ugtk2 & mygtk2 it's easy to express a complex GUI +with a compact +& powerfull dialect which would need 10 times more code to do in C + +><i> However we must admit that we are not going to rewrite all the +</I>><i> Mandriva tools ;-) However better documentation ( PerlDoc tags ) could +</I>><i> help a little. +</I> +More doc would be better indeed. + +><i> - Mandriva tools are not used by others distributions ( except +</I>><i> PCLinuxOS, United Linux, and ... Mageia ) and so have few external +</I>><i> contributions : They notably lack visibility. +</I> +void argument: SUSE tools (yast, ...) are only used on SUSE, and the like + +><i> I do think also that Mandriva will have to use its ressources in an +</I>><i> efficient way. +</I> +In the hand, some users will think about us as just as rh or debian, +just packaged by themselves. +We would just remove what makes us different, loosing users. + +><i> 5. Junior tasks contributions. I noticed while visiting the +</I>><i> LibreOffice website. They have junior task for people willing to +</I>><i> contribute to the codebase, and most of theses junior tasks consist to +</I>><i> improve code clarity, fix comments. I guess that the same thing could +</I>><i> be done with Mandriva tools, notably adding perldoc tags/comments. +</I> +Indeed. 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Some of the +</I>>><i> Mandriva tools have outdate UI, cluttered UI and even are sometimes +</I>>><i> buggy. +</I>>><i> The situation persists since many years already, so at some point we +</I>>><i> should ask ourself : are we going to rewrite them, notably the UI, to +</I>>><i> make them be more 2010, or should we use another tool with another +</I>>><i> GUI. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Personally I don't see anything wrong with the GUI of the draktools. +</I> +there's many things wrong. Just try Wndows 7 or Windows 2008 R2 tools +<A HREF="http://www.win2008r2workstation.com/win2008r2/themes">http://www.win2008r2workstation.com/win2008r2/themes</A> +<A HREF="http://learn.iis.net/page.aspx/29/installing-iis-7-on-windows-server-2008-or-windows-server-2008-r2/">http://learn.iis.net/page.aspx/29/installing-iis-7-on-windows-server-2008-or-windows-server-2008-r2/</A> +<A HREF="http://www.verboon.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/2010061520h01_291.png">http://www.verboon.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/2010061520h01_291.png</A> +<A HREF="http://4sysops.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/windows-server-2008-r2-bpa.png">http://4sysops.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/windows-server-2008-r2-bpa.png</A> + +><i> If imrpoving them means to rewrite them from scratch or replace them +</I>><i> with inferior tools from other distros, then that would be a big effort +</I>><i> and/or step backwards just for the estetics. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Substance counts a lot more than appearance to me. +</I> +again you're somewhat wrong + +iPod and iPhones are inferirors products technically speaking, but +they have better appearance ( good marketing, which is about +appearance ) and so are successful. + + + +-- +Close the World, Open the Net +<A HREF="http://www.linux-wizard.net">http://www.linux-wizard.net</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001714.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001721.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1719">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1719">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1719">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1719">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001720.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001720.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e76410011 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001720.html @@ -0,0 +1,130 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%20Host%20Mandriva%0A%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D4scFv0WVPvGi0-iP%2BBxXPvgdarJgr_OJVo0QA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001718.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001708.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github</H1> + <B>Fabrice Facorat</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%20Host%20Mandriva%0A%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D4scFv0WVPvGi0-iP%2BBxXPvgdarJgr_OJVo0QA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github">fabrice.facorat at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 15:22:24 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001718.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001708.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1720">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1720">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1720">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1720">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/10/1 Thierry Vignaud <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> On 1 October 2010 12:38, Fabrice Facorat <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">fabrice.facorat at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> As we know, one of the Mandriva strenght are the Mandriva tools, +</I>>><i> however Mandriva tools have some issues : +</I>>><i> - they are written in perl. Sorry for perl dev, but I do still think +</I>>><i> that perl is harder to understand than C-like based syntax langages. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's your point of view. Every programmer will have its own POV. +</I>><i> Thus this is a void argument. +</I> +sure, but I do think that people learing programming langages, notably +at school/university, first learn C-based langages ( C, C++, java, +PHP, .Net ), and so are more used to theses kinds of structures/syntax + +><i> I think an higher language makes the entry barrier smaller for new programmers: +</I>><i> - real algorithms are not in hidden/drown malloc/free spagetti +</I>><i> - no memory bugs +</I>><i> - no security issues b/c of poorly thinked/coded memory management +</I> +I did talk about C-like syntax langages. For example mono, php, java, python. +Ypu know having things like : if-then-else + +><i> What's more, with ugtk2 & mygtk2 it's easy to express a complex GUI +</I>><i> with a compact +</I>><i> & powerfull dialect which would need 10 times more code to do in C +</I> +I did look several times at ugtk2/mygtk2 : +- new dialect to learn +- issues in the predefined widgets +- syntax ( notably arg list ) hard to grasp, especially as there's no doc + +I did try several time to fix some tools, and even some wizards. But +it was damn hard to read the code, understand it, grasp ugtk2/mygtk2 + +>><i> However we must admit that we are not going to rewrite all the +</I>>><i> Mandriva tools ;-) However better documentation ( PerlDoc tags ) could +</I>>><i> help a little. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> More doc would be better indeed. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> - Mandriva tools are not used by others distributions ( except +</I>>><i> PCLinuxOS, United Linux, and ... Mageia ) and so have few external +</I>>><i> contributions : They notably lack visibility. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> void argument: SUSE tools (yast, ...) are only used on SUSE, and the like +</I> +indeed. 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I do say that appearance is important +2. you can have substance, but you need appearance too +3. I do use linux all time on my computer, make 60 people work on +Linux Mandriva at work, do Linux classroom and formations to other +people and I do prefer an android phone than an iphone +4. whereas you have your preferences, you have also to look at the +other people, in fact ... 14% of Mobiles users ( iPhone ), and 80% of +computer users ... 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Yes, probably for some, but those are the same who don't want to +understand SVN or have a clue about translation tools. + +Regards, + +Olav +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001716.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001724.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1723">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1723">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1723">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1723">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001724.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001724.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..96aef85a3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001724.html @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%0A%09Host%20Mandriva%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3Cm3k4m2qb98.fsf%40euphor.blino.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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It is very inefficient. + +There are two threads now that are cross posting and it is doubling the +amount of reading for nothing. For those 2 threads, could we just pick +either the dev or user and go from there? + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001733.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001730.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cross postings +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1726">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1726">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1726">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1726">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001727.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001727.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..52cc1bc90 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001727.html @@ -0,0 +1,116 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%0A%20Host%20Mandriva%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Dyikr0dObv4RU7MRTboh8gguUqqhVBBNYYLJt%3D%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001722.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001733.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github</H1> + <B>Gustavo Giampaoli</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%0A%20Host%20Mandriva%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Dyikr0dObv4RU7MRTboh8gguUqqhVBBNYYLJt%3D%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 15:50:02 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001722.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001733.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1727">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1727">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1727">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1727">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> If you are swayed by such arguments, you should be using Windows which has a +</I>><i> much better marketing than Linux. +</I> +We must accept that Microsoft and Apple know very very well how to +sell their self. + +We can do all the "bla bla bla" (linux is better, linux is free, etc), +but MS and Apple still are lightyears beyond us in terms of marketing +and sales. + +Even if you don't like what I'm going to write, we must learn +"Marketing 101" from them. + +They want money. They want sales. They invest a lot in make their +appearance fabulous and in develop "wizards" to help "supid people" to +do tasks. Why to do that if it's not important? Why Windows 7 doesn't +look like Windows 95? Why people can do everything with the mouse +only? clik clik clik, next next next. + +I'll tell you why: because people like beautiful desktops. You can +have sh*t of OS, but you put a nice GUI on top and people will love +it. + +Same way if you put the sweetest marmalade in an ugly and dirty +package. And you also put some dog sh*t in the most beautiful +packaging, with a nice ribbon. + +Ask them "please, pick one". Which one do you think people will pick first? + +Yes, the important thing is the delicious marmalade inside and not the +packaging. But how will you make people to find the marmalade if they +don't even want to take the pack? + +Same way, if I tell you "go to floor 130". And you can choose between +go by stairs or go in elevator. Call me lazy, but I'll go in elevator. + +Cheers! + + +Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001722.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001733.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1727">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1727">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1727">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1727">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001728.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001728.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7e3697fc8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001728.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%0A%09Host%20Mandriva%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3Cm3d3ruow8s.fsf%40euphor.blino.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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It is very inefficient. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There are two threads now that are cross posting and it is doubling the amount +</I>><i> of reading for nothing. For those 2 threads, could we just pick either the dev +</I>><i> or user and go from there? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I>><i> +</I>I agree, and maybe someone can remind how to reply to lists, without top posting +or creating a new thread for the same subject. + +It's really difficult to follow you guys :/ + +Paul +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001726.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cross postings +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1729">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1729">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1729">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1729">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001730.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001730.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ec5ef48a1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001730.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Cross postings + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Cross%20postings&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA5EEE8.4020605%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001726.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001736.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Cross postings</H1> + <B>Paul De Vlieger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Cross%20postings&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA5EEE8.4020605%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Cross postings">dv.paul at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 16:23:36 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001726.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cross postings +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001736.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1730">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1730">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1730">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1730">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> Le 01/10/2010 15:48, Marc Paré a écrit : +><i> Could we try to avoid cross postings. It is very inefficient. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There are two threads now that are cross posting and it is doubling the amount +</I>><i> of reading for nothing. For those 2 threads, could we just pick either the dev +</I>><i> or user and go from there? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I>><i> +</I>I agree, and maybe someone can remind how to reply to lists, without top posting +or creating a new thread for the same subject. + +It's really difficult to follow you guys :/ + +Paul +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001726.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cross postings +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001736.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1730">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1730">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1730">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1730">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001731.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001731.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c111ec0fc --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001731.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C201010011441.o91Ef0UU073670%40smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001710.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001732.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size</H1> + <B>Dick Gevers</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C201010011441.o91Ef0UU073670%40smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">dvgevers at xs4all.nl + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 16:41:10 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001710.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001732.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1731">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1731">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1731">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1731">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 13:11:09 +0200, Olivier Thauvin wrote about Re: +[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size: + +><i>After rpm --resign rpm differ between cooker and stable (the signature +</I>><i>changed). So hardlink between cooker and stable is impossible. +</I> +Is this only due to the fact that stable has a different key than Cooker? + +If yes, then Mageia could use the same key for stable and Cauldron? No? + +Best regards, +=Dick Gevers= +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001710.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001732.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1731">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1731">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1731">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1731">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001732.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001732.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..dda78ec6e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001732.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C201010011442.o91EgWgt053340%40smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001731.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001741.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size</H1> + <B>Dick Gevers</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C201010011442.o91EgWgt053340%40smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">dvgevers at xs4all.nl + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 16:42:42 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001731.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001741.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1732">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1732">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1732">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1732">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 14:41:10 +0000, Dick Gevers wrote about Re: +[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size: + +><i>Is this only due to the fact that stable has a different key than Cooker? +</I> +Stupid. Dependencies are different. + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001731.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001741.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1732">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1732">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1732">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1732">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001733.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001733.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..348c7075f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001733.html @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%0A%20Host%20Mandriva%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA5F3C2.7050606%40roadrunner.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001727.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001726.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github</H1> + <B>Frank Griffin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%0A%20Host%20Mandriva%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA5F3C2.7050606%40roadrunner.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github">ftg at roadrunner.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 16:44:18 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001727.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001726.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cross postings +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1733">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1733">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1733">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1733">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Gustavo Giampaoli wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> Same way if you put the sweetest marmalade in an ugly and dirty +</I>><i> package. And you also put some dog sh*t in the most beautiful +</I>><i> packaging, with a nice ribbon. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ask them "please, pick one". Which one do you think people will pick first? +</I>><i> +</I> +You're overlooking that fact that if you are a commercial enterprise you +can pay people to tie ribbons around dogsh*t, but you'll find very few +community contributors who are willing to do that for their own +amusement and edification. :-) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001727.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001726.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cross postings +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1733">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1733">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1733">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1733">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001734.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001734.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f520a5578 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001734.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C201010011659.30918.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001760.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001735.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C201010011659.30918.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 16:59:30 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001760.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001735.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1734">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1734">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1734">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1734">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op vrijdag 01 oktober 2010 09:28:28 schreef Thomas Backlund: +><i> Thomas Backlund skrev 1.10.2010 09:21: +</I>[...] +><i> SRPMS +</I>><i> debug +</I>><i> i586 +</I>><i> noarch +</I>><i> x86_64 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And then add to the Mirroring FAQ (for endusers) that you need noarch in +</I>><i> addition to the arch you want to mirror. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of course this means some changes to the upload system +</I>><i> (installer / mirror manager should be simple as they read media.cfg) +</I> + +actually, imo, noarch could be a real savior. i see that quite some packages +are i586 on mandriva, but in reality could be made noarch. + +also, i notice that if there is a small fix somewhere, alot of dependant +package are being rebuilt. disregarding packaging requirements and version +update, there is no real requirement. + +it would make things complex, but either we could take a look at some way of +having dependant package able to use the older versions. Or even more complex, +a sort of meta-package that holds no content, only a version nr and a referral +to the previous version. 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But +these 3 persons are looking to different places. They are giving the +back to each other. + +Of course, my feedback is really subjective. + +Cheers! + + +Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001736.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001738.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1737">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1737">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1737">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1737">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001738.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001738.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8c7194efe --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001738.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Another%20proposal%20for%20mageia%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3Ci84uqn%246k4%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001737.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001740.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo</H1> + <B>Adrian Marcinkowski</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Another%20proposal%20for%20mageia%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3Ci84uqn%246k4%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo">amfidiusz at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 17:30:25 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001737.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001740.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1738">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1738">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1738">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1738">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>W dniu 2010-10-01 17:24, Gustavo Giampaoli pisze: +><i> The first thing I felt is that the small circles are like people. +</I> +The first feeling was a comparison to a biohazard icon. Then, I started +to find out the true meaning of the symbols used. + +PS Again: Do we really need to have a discussion here over every single +logo proposal in a separate thread? Why not to keep them in the original +one? + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001737.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001740.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1738">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1738">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1738">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1738">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001739.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001739.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4667fde7d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001739.html @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Another%20proposal%20for%20mageia%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikQnqOdM7HV9YCXz8aAgEa2y_ZpcPkUu6R2Mi71%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001744.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001745.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo</H1> + <B>Egner Quero</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Another%20proposal%20for%20mageia%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikQnqOdM7HV9YCXz8aAgEa2y_ZpcPkUu6R2Mi71%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo">legnerquero at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 17:32:56 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001744.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001745.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1739">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1739">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1739">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1739">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i>From one perspective (overhead view) can be interpreted as three people with +</I>magic hat, or three wise men. + +The main idea rather, was placed 5 circles representing the 5 continents, +but I found that with a design of 3 circles, get a much more harmonious. + +Best Regards! + +2010/10/1 Gustavo Giampaoli <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>> + +><i> The first thing I felt is that the small circles are like people. But +</I>><i> these 3 persons are looking to different places. They are giving the +</I>><i> back to each other. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of course, my feedback is really subjective. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980) +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101001/413b8806/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001744.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001745.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1739">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1739">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1739">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1739">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001740.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001740.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8d2f61c77 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001740.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Another%20proposal%20for%20mageia%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimNy3mu9PSPZe27kRHJKrafkWpC_8d1MpqWxP_U%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001738.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001742.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo</H1> + <B>Gustavo Giampaoli</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Another%20proposal%20for%20mageia%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimNy3mu9PSPZe27kRHJKrafkWpC_8d1MpqWxP_U%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 17:33:17 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001738.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001742.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1740">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1740">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1740">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1740">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> PS Again: Do we really need to have a discussion here over every single logo +</I>><i> proposal in a separate thread? Why not to keep them in the original one? +</I> +True. We all could leave our feedback in each logo's page, at Flickr. +We only need to register. + + + +Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001738.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001742.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1740">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1740">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1740">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1740">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001741.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001741.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8993e0067 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001741.html @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C20101001153717.GR1637%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001732.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001696.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size</H1> + <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C20101001153717.GR1637%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 17:37:17 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001732.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001696.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1741">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1741">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1741">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1741">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>* Dick Gevers (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dvgevers at xs4all.nl</A>) wrote: +><i> On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 14:41:10 +0000, Dick Gevers wrote about Re: +</I>><i> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> >Is this only due to the fact that stable has a different key than Cooker? +</I> +Yes, it is the reason. + +><i> +</I>><i> Stupid. Dependencies are different. +</I> +Of course this gain can only affect not updated packages, but we also +try to rebuild everything during release cycle, making rpm differents. + +But there's still a gain, the mirror size do not suddently increase at +release time since at this time the new stable equal cooker and then all +files can hardlink'd. + +Regards. + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101001/7ac90c9b/attachment-0001.asc> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001732.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001696.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1741">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1741">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1741">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1741">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001742.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001742.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..14474b69a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001742.html @@ -0,0 +1,95 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Another%20proposal%20for%20mageia%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTik%2BVCZ_qwDVCRoi-_PLsAfu4%2BsMOcL7p-tjcRBR%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001740.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001743.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo</H1> + <B>Egner Quero</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Another%20proposal%20for%20mageia%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTik%2BVCZ_qwDVCRoi-_PLsAfu4%2BsMOcL7p-tjcRBR%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo">legnerquero at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 17:39:52 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001740.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001743.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1742">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1742">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1742">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1742">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>This is an original design, I had not seen before biohazard design, however, +the symbol which is the basis for my design and apparently also for the +biohazard symbol, is an esoteric symbol, an ancient magical symbol that insert +is the base where the 3 circles. + +Best regards. + +2010/10/1 Adrian Marcinkowski <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">amfidiusz at gmail.com</A>> + +><i> W dniu 2010-10-01 17:24, Gustavo Giampaoli pisze: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The first thing I felt is that the small circles are like people. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The first feeling was a comparison to a biohazard icon. Then, I started to +</I>><i> find out the true meaning of the symbols used. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> PS Again: Do we really need to have a discussion here over every single +</I>><i> logo proposal in a separate thread? 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Then, I started to +</I>>><i> find out the true meaning of the symbols used. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> PS Again: Do we really need to have a discussion here over every single +</I>>><i> logo proposal in a separate thread? 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Of course not ... + +this is a symbol as old as the symbol of a star: + +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54456595@N07/5041488891/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54456595@N07/5041488891/</A> + +Escribe texto o la dirección de un sitio web o traduce un +documento<<A HREF="http://translate.google.co.ve/?tr=f&hl=es">http://translate.google.co.ve/?tr=f&hl=es</A>> +. +Cancelar <<A HREF="http://translate.google.co.ve/?tr=t&hl=es">http://translate.google.co.ve/?tr=t&hl=es</A>> +I do not think it is so difficult for you to understand that + +please try to find it before making comments without having sufficient +knowledge about it, besides everyone here just want to contribute. why +sacrifice some of our time. +Escuchar +Leer fonéticamente + + + + +2010/10/1 Gustavo Giampaoli <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>> + +><i> 2010/10/1 Egner Quero <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">legnerquero at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>><i> > This is an original design, I had not seen before biohazard design, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.google.com.ar/images?hl=es&source=imghp&biw=1600&bih=809&q=biohazard+logo&gbv=2&aq=1&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=biohaz&gs_rfai=">http://www.google.com.ar/images?hl=es&source=imghp&biw=1600&bih=809&q=biohazard+logo&gbv=2&aq=1&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=biohaz&gs_rfai=</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980) +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101001/738ed934/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001743.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001751.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1746">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1746">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1746">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1746">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001747.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001747.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6c2d53299 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001747.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? 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I mean like from which version of +</I>><i> Mandriva or Cooker etc. +</I>><i> Anyone knows? +</I>><i> +</I>Someone mentioned earlier that it would be either the latest version of +Mandrivia, or Cooker. + +Wayne Sallee +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Wayne at WayneSallee.com</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001750.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001749.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1748">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1748">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1748">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1748">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001749.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001749.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..72e4b48ef --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001749.html @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA607DA.6010204%40WayneSallee.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001748.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001763.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!</H1> + <B>Wayne Sallee</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA607DA.6010204%40WayneSallee.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!">Wayne at WayneSallee.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 18:10:02 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001748.html">[Mageia-discuss] Question about the fork. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001763.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1749">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1749">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1749">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1749">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> + +Marcello Anni wrote on 09/29/2010 05:13 AM: +><i> choose the logo and the pay-off. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +What do you mean by "pay-off"? 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Of course not ... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> this is a symbol as old as the symbol of a star: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54456595@N07/5041488891/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54456595@N07/5041488891/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Escribe texto o la dirección de un sitio web o traduce un documento. +</I>><i> Cancelar +</I>><i> I do not think it is so difficult for you to understand that +</I>><i> please try to find it before making comments without having sufficient +</I>><i> knowledge about it, besides everyone here just want to contribute. why +</I>><i> sacrifice some of our time. +</I>><i> Escuchar +</I>><i> Leer fonéticamente +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 2010/10/1 Gustavo Giampaoli <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> 2010/10/1 Egner Quero <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">legnerquero at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>>><i> > This is an original design, I had not seen before biohazard design, +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> <A HREF="http://www.google.com.ar/images?hl=es&source=imghp&biw=1600&bih=809&q=biohazard+logo&gbv=2&aq=1&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=biohaz&gs_rfai=">http://www.google.com.ar/images?hl=es&source=imghp&biw=1600&bih=809&q=biohazard+logo&gbv=2&aq=1&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=biohaz&gs_rfai=</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +What about this? +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54399945@N03/5038864075/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54399945@N03/5038864075/</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001746.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001755.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1751">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1751">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1751">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1751">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001752.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001752.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c6090d91a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001752.html @@ -0,0 +1,64 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C20101001171646.GS21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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One +</I>><i> question come immediatelly: what will be the size of our mirror tree ? +</I> + +I'll try to ask my ISP(also my emplyer) which holds <A HREF="http://ftp.tpnet.pl/">http://ftp.tpnet.pl/</A> +to be a primary mirror. + + +-- +Regards +TPG + +<A HREF="http://cia.vc/stats/author/tpg">http://cia.vc/stats/author/tpg</A> +--- +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: signature.asc +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 198 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101001/2094675b/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001696.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001762.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1754">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1754">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1754">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1754">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001755.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001755.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c6a8271c5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001755.html @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Another%20proposal%20for%20mageia%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3Cf.4ca61b1a%40mageia.linuxtech.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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+ charset="utf-8" +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit +Organization: Mageia ML Gateway Test Forum +In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimCV4qB-VHXFucJZv9yR2CcRQqYD7Hov47=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">VC50 at mail.gmail.com</A>> +X-FUDforum: eae8679fe7e063970a19bc3823dcb4e1 <15> +Message-ID: <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">f.4ca61b1a at mageia.linuxtech.net</A>> + + + +Quote: atilla ontas wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 13:13 +><i> +</I>><i> What about this? +</I>><i> +</I> +Nice + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001751.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001756.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1755">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1755">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1755">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1755">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001756.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001756.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e4ddba042 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001756.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Another%20proposal%20for%20mageia%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikhosVOjhm4_Ag9QSucdhD4KYcn0neVero5c7az%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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I mean, it was a +understandable for Mandriva, main was rpms "guaranteed" by Mandriva while +contrib was not. But now, with a project like mageia there is no longer need +to separate main from contrib + +-- +Olivier Méjean +Président de l'Association des Utilisateurs Francophones de Mandriva Linux +<A HREF="http://mandrivafr.org">http://mandrivafr.org</A> +twitter : obagoom +identi.ca : goom +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001757.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001759.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1758">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1758">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1758">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1758">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001759.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001759.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e2c99c0f3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001759.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C20101001202002.1f34037d%40gaia%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001758.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001761.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size</H1> + <B>André Salaün</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C20101001202002.1f34037d%40gaia%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">andresalaun at aliceadsl.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 20:20:02 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001758.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1759">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1759">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1759">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1759">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le Fri, 1 Oct 2010 20:11:04 +0200 +Olivier Méjean <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">omejean at yahoo.fr</A>> a écrit: +./. +><i> +</I>><i> What is the difference between main and contrib ? I mean, it was a +</I>><i> understandable for Mandriva, main was rpms "guaranteed" by Mandriva while +</I>><i> contrib was not. But now, with a project like mageia there is no longer need +</I>><i> to separate main from contrib +</I> ++1 + +-- +A.Salaün + + + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001758.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1759">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1759">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1759">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1759">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001760.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001760.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2ab262e03 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001760.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA627E2.8070400%40iki.fi%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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I mean, it was a +</I>><i> understandable for Mandriva, main was rpms "guaranteed" by Mandriva while +</I>><i> contrib was not. But now, with a project like mageia there is no longer need +</I>><i> to separate main from contrib +</I> +Maybe you could have a "core" repo. Core will be the packages for a +bare distro. The completely naked basic distro. Kind of Mageia + +drakes + drivers + basic desktop. Not any "regular" application like +GIMP. Pretty basic. + +This core must be managed / touched / modified / updated only by a +"selected" group of developers. Because this core would be the spine +of the whole distro, the naked OS. This would ensure the stability of +the system because only pros and / or well +experienced-with--enough-merits developers will touch the system guts. + +And you could have other repo for all the rest of the software. + +Cheers! + + + +Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980) +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001759.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1761">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1761">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1761">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1761">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001762.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001762.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f06de58d7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001762.html @@ -0,0 +1,113 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C20101001184139.GW1637%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001754.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001767.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size</H1> + <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C20101001184139.GW1637%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 20:41:39 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001754.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001767.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1762">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1762">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1762">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1762">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>* Tomasz Paweł Gajc (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">phenomenal at wp.pl</A>) wrote: +><i> Dnia 2010-10-01, o godz. 03:32:29 +</I>><i> Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>> napisał(a): +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Hi, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I did started to contact some people to find Tier1 mirrors. One +</I>><i> > question come immediatelly: what will be the size of our mirror tree ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'll try to ask my ISP(also my emplyer) which holds <A HREF="http://ftp.tpnet.pl/">http://ftp.tpnet.pl/</A> +</I>><i> to be a primary mirror. +</I> +You can ask but I do think it is a bit too early. + +I didn't took time to explain the plan for mirror but will do this +week-end. + +The harder work is to find Tier1 mirrors, eg mirrors syncing directly +from our server. They should: +- provide rsync server +- provide the full tree (even it is big) +- being able to reply quickly in case of problem +- still able to provide the service in few years + +When theses mirrors will be found it will possible to setup others +mirrors. + +However, if ftp.tpnet.pl can do this, feel free to ask. Expected tree +size: 700GB, expected average bandwidth: 40mbs/s. + +At time only distrib-coffee has been elected to be Tier1 :) +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Regards +</I>><i> TPG +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://cia.vc/stats/author/tpg">http://cia.vc/stats/author/tpg</A> +</I>><i> --- +</I> + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101001/833c81e5/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001754.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001767.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1762">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1762">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1762">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1762">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001763.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001763.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..57636f1f7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001763.html @@ -0,0 +1,99 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3C20101001184732.GA18264%40shikamaru.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001749.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001768.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</H1> + <B>Remy CLOUARD</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3C20101001184732.GA18264%40shikamaru.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">shikamaru at mandriva.org + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 20:47:32 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001749.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001768.html">[Mageia-discuss] I want Apport to become included in Mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1763">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1763">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1763">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1763">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:33:18PM +0200, Remy CLOUARD wrote: +><i> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 03:13:02PM +0300, Mihai Dobrescu wrote: +</I>><i> And this is the result : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021464618/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021464618/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Black and white version : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021464608/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021464608/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> When I first looked at it again, it made me think of this picture : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.asdfing.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/facts_about_leonardo_da_vinci.jpg">http://www.asdfing.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/facts_about_leonardo_da_vinci.jpg</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Unfortunately, as it is very simple in its design, I fear there is a +</I>><i> high chance that a similar logo exists as well, sorry if it’s the case +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I hope you like this idea, feedback would be very welcome :) +</I>><i> +</I>What I feared came to me actually sooner than I expected : + +I just saw an ad on TV for hyperassur, I just let your curiosity find +how its logo look like. All in all my logo attempt is not that close to +this one, but the underlying principle is quite the same I think, not +something that could knock out this attempt tho’ IMHO + +Regards, +-- +Rémy CLOUARD +() ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail +/\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 230 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101001/3a49ceaa/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001749.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001768.html">[Mageia-discuss] I want Apport to become included in Mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1763">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1763">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1763">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1763">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001764.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001764.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2a02f6864 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001764.html @@ -0,0 +1,99 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C201010012051.28399.omejean%40yahoo.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001761.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001766.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size</H1> + <B>Olivier Méjean</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C201010012051.28399.omejean%40yahoo.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">omejean at yahoo.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 20:51:28 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001766.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1764">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1764">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1764">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1764">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le vendredi 1 octobre 2010 20:28:56, Gustavo Giampaoli a écrit : +><i> > What is the difference between main and contrib ? I mean, it was a +</I>><i> > understandable for Mandriva, main was rpms "guaranteed" by Mandriva while +</I>><i> > contrib was not. But now, with a project like mageia there is no longer +</I>><i> > need to separate main from contrib +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe you could have a "core" repo. Core will be the packages for a +</I>><i> bare distro. The completely naked basic distro. Kind of Mageia + +</I>><i> drakes + drivers + basic desktop. Not any "regular" application like +</I>><i> GIMP. Pretty basic. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This core must be managed / touched / modified / updated only by a +</I>><i> "selected" group of developers. Because this core would be the spine +</I>><i> of the whole distro, the naked OS. This would ensure the stability of +</I>><i> the system because only pros and / or well +</I>><i> experienced-with--enough-merits developers will touch the system guts. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And you could have other repo for all the rest of the software. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980) +</I>><i> +</I> +So following that way, let's name core the media containing the core of the +system and ... well ... non-core the rest (keeping also non-free) + +Maybe before talking about mirror size it could be nice to think about how +will mageia deal with rpms, core and non-core, how to include new software. +This last point is important if using fixed release since in Mandriva there was +no repo for newly added software (eg if mysupersoft was released after +Mandriva 2010 there was no repo to include it, maybe backport, what's lead to +create third part repos) + +-- +Olivier Méjean +Président de l'Association des Utilisateurs Francophones de Mandriva Linux +<A HREF="http://mandrivafr.org">http://mandrivafr.org</A> +twitter : obagoom +identi.ca : goom +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001766.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1764">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1764">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1764">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1764">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001765.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001765.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2754a1320 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001765.html @@ -0,0 +1,71 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C201010011855.o91It7fK012570%40smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001766.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001760.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size</H1> + <B>Dick Gevers</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C201010011855.o91It7fK012570%40smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">dvgevers at xs4all.nl + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 20:55:18 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001766.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001760.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1765">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1765">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1765">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1765">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 20:11:04 +0200, Olivier Méjean wrote about Re: +[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size: + +><i>What is the difference between main and contrib ? I mean, it was a +</I>><i>understandable for Mandriva, main was rpms "guaranteed" by Mandriva while +</I>><i>contrib was not. But now, with a project like mageia there is no longer +</I>><i>need to separate main from contrib +</I> +Why not? If I were an official-release-user I'd want security updates to be +ensured as much on Mageia as on Mandriva. Are we now suddenly able to +guarantee that for all of ex-contrib in main? Or do we leave security +updates out of Mageia? I'd hope not. + +Cheers, +=Dick Gevers= +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001766.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001760.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1765">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1765">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1765">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1765">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001766.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001766.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7db460ebf --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001766.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C201010012059.34197.fri%40tribun.eu%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001764.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001765.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size</H1> + <B>Morgan Leijström</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C201010012059.34197.fri%40tribun.eu%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">fri at tribun.eu + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 20:59:34 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001765.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1766">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1766">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1766">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1766">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Den 2010-10-01 20:28:56 skrev Gustavo Giampaoli: +><i> > What is the difference between main and contrib ? I mean, it was a +</I>><i> > understandable for Mandriva, main was rpms "guaranteed" by Mandriva while +</I>><i> > contrib was not. But now, with a project like mageia there is no longer +</I>><i> > need to separate main from contrib +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe you could have a "core" repo. Core will be the packages for a +</I>><i> bare distro. The completely naked basic distro. Kind of Mageia + +</I>><i> drakes + drivers + basic desktop. Not any "regular" application like +</I>><i> GIMP. Pretty basic. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This core must be managed / touched / modified / updated only by a +</I>><i> "selected" group of developers. Because this core would be the spine +</I>><i> of the whole distro, the naked OS. This would ensure the stability of +</I>><i> the system because only pros and / or well +</I>><i> experienced-with--enough-merits developers will touch the system guts. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And you could have other repo for all the rest of the software. +</I> +I think it is good to have that priority clearly stated like that, so the most +important parts are given most care. + +It is also easy to just grab what is most important. + +And Yes it looks like a nice structure on PLF +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001765.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1766">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1766">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1766">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1766">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001767.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001767.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fcc401a6e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001767.html @@ -0,0 +1,120 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C20101001212729.4e29b8cd%40wp.pl%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001762.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001682.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size</H1> + <B>Tomasz Paweł Gajc</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Mirror%20size&In-Reply-To=%3C20101001212729.4e29b8cd%40wp.pl%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size">phenomenal at wp.pl + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 21:27:29 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001762.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001682.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1767">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1767">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1767">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1767">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Dnia 2010-10-01, o godz. 20:41:39 +Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>> napisał(a): + +><i> * Tomasz Paweł Gajc (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">phenomenal at wp.pl</A>) wrote: +</I>><i> > Dnia 2010-10-01, o godz. 03:32:29 +</I>><i> > Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>> napisał(a): +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > > Hi, +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > I did started to contact some people to find Tier1 mirrors. One +</I>><i> > > question come immediatelly: what will be the size of our mirror +</I>><i> > > tree ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I'll try to ask my ISP(also my emplyer) which holds +</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://ftp.tpnet.pl/">http://ftp.tpnet.pl/</A> to be a primary mirror. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You can ask but I do think it is a bit too early. +</I>><i> +</I> +Ofcourse i will ask. + +><i> I didn't took time to explain the plan for mirror but will do this +</I>><i> week-end. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The harder work is to find Tier1 mirrors, eg mirrors syncing directly +</I>><i> from our server. They should: +</I>><i> - provide rsync server +</I>><i> - provide the full tree (even it is big) +</I>><i> - being able to reply quickly in case of problem +</I>><i> - still able to provide the service in few years +</I>><i> +</I>><i> When theses mirrors will be found it will possible to setup others +</I>><i> mirrors. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> However, if ftp.tpnet.pl can do this, feel free to ask. Expected tree +</I>><i> size: 700GB, expected average bandwidth: 40mbs/s. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> At time only distrib-coffee has been elected to be Tier1 :) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > -- +</I>><i> > Regards +</I>><i> > TPG +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://cia.vc/stats/author/tpg">http://cia.vc/stats/author/tpg</A> +</I>><i> > --- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> + + +-- +Regards +TPG + +<A HREF="http://cia.vc/stats/author/tpg">http://cia.vc/stats/author/tpg</A> +--- +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: signature.asc +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 198 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101001/51810ce0/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001762.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001682.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1767">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1767">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1767">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1767">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001768.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001768.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e1b7d874c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/001768.html @@ -0,0 +1,60 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] I want Apport to become included in Mageia + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20I%20want%20Apport%20to%20become%20included%20in%20Mageia&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA640A7.1090205%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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I'm not saying it does +not represent magic. I'm just giving my opinion on what was the first +thing in my mind after seeing that proposal. Do not expect users to run +extensive research in order to just find out what the logo stands for. +The image has to be clear at the first sight. +Besides, what have you expected while writing this post if you can't +handle some critic? + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001756.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001744.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1769">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1769">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1769">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1769">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/002127.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/002127.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9fd2d1a4e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/002127.html @@ -0,0 +1,180 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%20Host%20Mandriva%0A%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA5D3B2.10704%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001715.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001718.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github</H1> + <B>Thomas Lottmann</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%20Host%20Mandriva%0A%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA5D3B2.10704%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github">skipercooker at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Oct 1 14:27:30 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001715.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001718.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2127">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2127">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2127">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2127">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> Le 01/10/2010 12:38, Fabrice Facorat a écrit : +><i> I've been following closely all the Mandriva vs Mageia story. I found +</I>><i> it unfortunate that we have to come to this way, but I guess there's a +</I>><i> serious fracture between Mandriva and part of its community. We have +</I>><i> no choice except to cope with this and try to do our best to allow +</I>><i> this unfortunate situation to found a sensible solution in the future. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As we know, one of the Mandriva strenght are the Mandriva tools, +</I>><i> however Mandriva tools have some issues : +</I>><i> - they are written in perl. Sorry for perl dev, but I do still think +</I>><i> that perl is harder to understand than C-like based syntax langages. +</I>><i> However we must admit that we are not going to rewrite all the +</I>><i> Mandriva tools ;-) However better documentation ( PerlDoc tags ) could +</I>><i> help a little. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - Mandriva tools are not used by others distributions ( except +</I>><i> PCLinuxOS, United Linux, and ... Mageia ) and so have few external +</I>><i> contributions : They notably lack visibility. +</I> +I do agree with this. + +><i> I do think also that Mandriva will have to use its ressources in an +</I>><i> efficient way. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Here aree my proposals, feel free to discuss : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1. host Mandriva tools on github or code.google.com. This will ease +</I>><i> fork maintenance and tracking, to contribute back ( without having to +</I>><i> have a Mandriva account ) +</I> +Yes. Having their own 'site' and independent platform may help. + +><i> 2. Make some decisions about the tools we should keep, and the ones we +</I>><i> should ... trash. For example we did replace printerdrake with +</I>><i> system-config-printer ( python ), and msec have been rewritten ( +</I>><i> python ). Whereas I do think that system-config-printer is way buggier +</I>><i> than printerdrake, I guess that at some points, we will have to do +</I>><i> this more and more : replace some Mandriva tools with for example some +</I>><i> Fedora ones. Please note however that this bring its own issues : +</I>><i> python vs perl, and the integration with the rest of Mandriva +</I>><i> infrastructure +</I> +We need to see what is still functional, what is broken (and so what is +to repair), and what is to drop. Eventually, what is to support and +repair again (printerdrake?) if possible. + +For what I know, there are many tools that work : RPMDrake and related, +Drakstats, Diskdrake, Harddrake, DrakX11, Drak3D, DrakUPS, DrakFirewall, +DrakGuard (wonderful this one) but may networking tools to share network +or use VPN, Samba, NFS, WebDav, and eventually along with Diskdrake, are +broken. Others such as Draksnapshot and DrakSamba (not sure if it works +or not) are a pain due to insufficient functionalities or +outdated/painful GUI. There is a nice theming functionality in the MCC +that is also probably broken or difficult to use, that could be restored +or explained. + +><i> 3. A decision will have to be made concerning net_applet and NetworkManager +</I> +Yes, even though I think we should give another chance to NetApplet and +see what should be fixed to make it better. NetAppler has the advantages +of being linked to DrakFirewall, perhaps other tools, and to be +independent of any environment. + +><i> 4. Whereas I do love rpmdrake, I do think also that something will +</I>><i> have to be done about it as its UI is clearly outdated and not on par +</I>><i> with the competition : +</I>><i> - Ubuntu software center : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://seilo.geekyogre.com/2010/09/software-center-with-a-dose-of-zeitgeist-and-maybe-teamgeist/">http://seilo.geekyogre.com/2010/09/software-center-with-a-dose-of-zeitgeist-and-maybe-teamgeist/</A> +</I>><i> , <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Software_Center">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Software_Center</A> , +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter</A> +</I>><i> - iTunes App Store : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how_to_download_iphone_apps_from_apple_itunes_store.html">http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how_to_download_iphone_apps_from_apple_itunes_store.html</A> +</I>><i> , <A HREF="http://cybernetnews.com/download-iphone-firmware-20-itunes-77-app-store-and-more/">http://cybernetnews.com/download-iphone-firmware-20-itunes-77-app-store-and-more/</A> +</I>><i> - Interesting discussion about PackageKit direction : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/a-story-about-updates-and-people/">http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/a-story-about-updates-and-people/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So we may have to completely rewrite rpmdrake UI or switch to +</I>><i> packagekit with and urpmi backend. +</I> +I still have a very strong faith and appreciation for RPMDrake. I really +think it is well designed and intuitive, despite it's little issues and +being slow (honestly, PackageKit is slow and also has issues so...). + +The real issue that RPMDrake has is it's Aplications with GUI filter. +Even if I think this functionalitiy is really good for beginners, +RPMDrake is a -package- manager. Mandriva does need a real and dedicated +Application manager (could be called an AppCenter) where beginners would +find a way to install (shop?) applications with a very nice layout, +presentation, clear icons, screenshot, and no irritating choice of +hundreds of dependencies with barbaric names. +It might be difficult, but much more convenient for those who just want +things to work in a snap (or in very few clicks). + +This would allow to place back again the default filter on "All" (should +be renamed to "Show all packages") for the RPMDrake package manager. We +would then have an AppCenter and a real package manager for advanced +package management, without forgetting a dedicated tool with GUI to +manage orphans more efficiently. + +Yet, all of this demands a huge lot of work and we will need huge +resources... + +><i> 5. Junior tasks contributions. I noticed while visiting the +</I>><i> LibreOffice website. They have junior task for people willing to +</I>><i> contribute to the codebase, and most of theses junior tasks consist to +</I>><i> improve code clarity, fix comments. I guess that the same thing could +</I>><i> be done with Mandriva tools, notably adding perldoc tags/comments. +</I> +Yes. This will help people from outside understand better how the +program works. Reading the code itself isn't that easy even if it is +well written. + +><i> Last but not least, I know that on Mageia ML, there was a discussion +</I>><i> about the people we should target. Here are some interesting +</I>><i> reflexions : +</I>><i> Sweet Caroline : <A HREF="http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/02/sweet-caroline/">http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/02/sweet-caroline/</A> +</I>><i> fedoraproject.org redesign update : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/03/fedoraproject-org-redesign-update/">http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/03/fedoraproject-org-redesign-update/</A> +</I>><i> You must be this tall to ride: __ : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/10/01/you-must-be-this-tall-to-ride-_">http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/10/01/you-must-be-this-tall-to-ride-_</A>_ +</I> +Will read them when I'll find the time to... + +Thomas. + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001715.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001718.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2127">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2127">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2127">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2127">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..09ba81059 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,527 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 1 October 2010 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>1 October 2010 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Oct 1 01:28:46 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Oct 1 23:45:38 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 96<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="001686.html">[Mageia-discuss] logo proposal +</A><A NAME="1686"> </A> +<I>Ricardo Manuel Arroyo Alvarado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001688.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1688"> </A> +<I>Thomas Backlund +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001691.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1691"> </A> +<I>Thomas Backlund +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001695.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1695"> </A> +<I>Thomas Backlund +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001760.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1760"> </A> +<I>Thomas Backlund +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001704.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1704"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001705.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1705"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001724.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1724"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001728.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1728"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001735.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1735"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001763.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1763"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1693"> </A> +<I>P. 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HREF="001736.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1736"> </A> +<I>Egner Quero +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001739.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1739"> </A> +<I>Egner Quero +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001742.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1742"> </A> +<I>Egner Quero +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001744.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1744"> </A> +<I>Egner Quero +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001746.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1746"> </A> +<I>Egner Quero +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001756.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1756"> </A> +<I>Egner Quero +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001675.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010 +</A><A NAME="1675"> </A> +<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001678.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010 +</A><A NAME="1678"> </A> +<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001757.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1757"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001759.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1759"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001745.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1745"> </A> +<I>Wayne Sallee +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001750.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal +</A><A NAME="1750"> </A> +<I>Wayne Sallee +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001748.html">[Mageia-discuss] Question about the fork. +</A><A NAME="1748"> </A> +<I>Wayne Sallee +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001749.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1749"> </A> +<I>Wayne Sallee +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001685.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1685"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001697.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1697"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001698.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1698"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001699.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1699"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001700.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1700"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001681.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1681"> </A> +<I>Thomas Spuhler +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001679.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1679"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001706.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1706"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001707.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1707"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001710.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1710"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001741.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1741"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001762.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1762"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001690.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1690"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001708.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1708"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001711.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1711"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001755.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1755"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001734.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1734"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001747.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1747"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001753.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1753"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001696.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1696"> </A> +<I>Samuel Verschelde +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001716.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1716"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001718.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1718"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001730.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cross postings +</A><A NAME="1730"> </A> +<I>Paul De Vlieger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001684.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1684"> </A> +<I>Funda Wang +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001682.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1682"> </A> +<I>futureway at asia.com +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001687.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1687"> </A> +<I>futureway at asia.com +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001680.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1680"> </A> +<I>chag +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001751.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1751"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001752.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1752"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Fri Oct 1 23:45:38 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Oct 4 13:46:32 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + 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1 23:45:38 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 96<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="001674.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to twitter in blog page +</A><A NAME="1674"> </A> +<I>Philippe DIDIER +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001675.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010 +</A><A NAME="1675"> </A> +<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001676.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong ref in the blog page +</A><A NAME="1676"> </A> +<I>Philippe DIDIER +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001677.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010 +</A><A NAME="1677"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001678.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010 +</A><A NAME="1678"> </A> +<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001679.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1679"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001680.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1680"> </A> +<I>chag +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001681.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1681"> </A> +<I>Thomas Spuhler +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001682.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1682"> </A> +<I>futureway at asia.com +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001683.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1683"> </A> +<I>Frank Weng (a.k.a. Franklin) +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001684.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1684"> </A> +<I>Funda Wang +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001685.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1685"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001686.html">[Mageia-discuss] logo proposal +</A><A NAME="1686"> </A> +<I>Ricardo Manuel Arroyo Alvarado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001687.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1687"> </A> +<I>futureway at asia.com +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001688.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1688"> </A> +<I>Thomas Backlund +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001689.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1689"> </A> +<I>Frank Weng (a.k.a. Franklin) +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001690.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1690"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001691.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1691"> </A> +<I>Thomas Backlund +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001692.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to twitter in blog page +</A><A NAME="1692"> </A> +<I>Damien Lallement +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1693"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001694.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1694"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001695.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1695"> </A> +<I>Thomas Backlund +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001696.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1696"> </A> +<I>Samuel Verschelde +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001697.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1697"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001698.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1698"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001699.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1699"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001700.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1700"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001701.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1701"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001702.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1702"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001703.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1703"> </A> +<I>Fabrice Facorat +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001704.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1704"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001705.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1705"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001706.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1706"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001707.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1707"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001708.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1708"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001709.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1709"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001710.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1710"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001711.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1711"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001712.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1712"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001713.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1713"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001714.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1714"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001715.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1715"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002127.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="2127"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001716.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1716"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001717.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1717"> </A> +<I>You-Cheng Hsieh +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001718.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1718"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001719.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1719"> </A> +<I>Fabrice Facorat +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001720.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1720"> </A> +<I>Fabrice Facorat +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001721.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1721"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001722.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1722"> </A> +<I>Fabrice Facorat +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001723.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1723"> </A> +<I>Olav Dahlum +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001724.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1724"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001725.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1725"> </A> +<I>Olav Dahlum +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001726.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cross postings +</A><A NAME="1726"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001727.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1727"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001728.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1728"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001730.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cross postings +</A><A NAME="1730"> </A> +<I>Paul De Vlieger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001731.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1731"> </A> +<I>Dick Gevers +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001732.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1732"> </A> +<I>Dick Gevers +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001733.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1733"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001734.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1734"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001735.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1735"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001736.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1736"> </A> +<I>Egner Quero +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001737.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1737"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001738.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1738"> </A> +<I>Adrian Marcinkowski +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001739.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1739"> </A> +<I>Egner Quero +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001740.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1740"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001741.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1741"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001742.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1742"> </A> +<I>Egner Quero +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001743.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1743"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001745.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1745"> </A> +<I>Wayne Sallee +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001744.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1744"> </A> +<I>Egner Quero +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001750.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal +</A><A NAME="1750"> </A> +<I>Wayne Sallee +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001746.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1746"> </A> +<I>Egner Quero +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001747.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1747"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001748.html">[Mageia-discuss] Question about the fork. +</A><A NAME="1748"> </A> +<I>Wayne Sallee +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001749.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1749"> </A> +<I>Wayne Sallee +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001751.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1751"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001752.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1752"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001753.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1753"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001755.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1755"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001754.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1754"> </A> +<I>Tomasz Paweł Gajc +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001756.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1756"> </A> +<I>Egner Quero +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001757.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1757"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001758.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1758"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001759.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1759"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001760.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1760"> </A> +<I>Thomas Backlund +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1761"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001762.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1762"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001763.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1763"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1764"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001765.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1765"> </A> +<I>Dick Gevers +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001766.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1766"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001767.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1767"> </A> +<I>Tomasz Paweł Gajc +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001768.html">[Mageia-discuss] I want Apport to become included in Mageia +</A><A NAME="1768"> </A> +<I>Kristoffer Grundström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001769.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1769"> </A> +<I>Adrian Marcinkowski +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Fri Oct 1 23:45:38 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Oct 4 13:46:32 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/index.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/index.html new file mode 120000 index 000000000..db4b46f72 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/index.html @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +thread.html
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<b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Oct 1 23:45:38 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 96<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="001705.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1705"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001716.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1716"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001719.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1719"> </A> +<I>Fabrice Facorat +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001721.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1721"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001724.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1724"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001728.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1728"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001708.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1708"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001711.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1711"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001722.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1722"> </A> +<I>Fabrice Facorat +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001723.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1723"> </A> +<I>Olav Dahlum +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001725.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1725"> </A> +<I>Olav Dahlum +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001727.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1727"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001733.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1733"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001713.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1713"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001714.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1714"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001703.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1703"> </A> +<I>Fabrice Facorat +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001715.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1715"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002127.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="2127"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001718.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1718"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001720.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1720"> </A> +<I>Fabrice Facorat +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001736.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1736"> </A> +<I>Egner Quero +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001737.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1737"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001738.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1738"> </A> +<I>Adrian Marcinkowski +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001739.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1739"> </A> +<I>Egner Quero +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001740.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1740"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001742.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1742"> </A> +<I>Egner Quero +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001743.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1743"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001744.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1744"> </A> +<I>Egner Quero +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001746.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1746"> </A> +<I>Egner Quero +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001751.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1751"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001755.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1755"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001756.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1756"> </A> +<I>Egner Quero +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001769.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1769"> </A> +<I>Adrian Marcinkowski +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001763.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1763"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001682.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1682"> </A> +<I>futureway at asia.com +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001683.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1683"> </A> +<I>Frank Weng (a.k.a. Franklin) +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001684.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1684"> </A> +<I>Funda Wang +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001687.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1687"> </A> +<I>futureway at asia.com +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001689.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1689"> </A> +<I>Frank Weng (a.k.a. Franklin) +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001702.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1702"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001717.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1717"> </A> +<I>You-Cheng Hsieh +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001726.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cross postings +</A><A NAME="1726"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001730.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cross postings +</A><A NAME="1730"> </A> +<I>Paul De Vlieger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001768.html">[Mageia-discuss] I want Apport to become included in Mageia +</A><A NAME="1768"> </A> +<I>Kristoffer Grundström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001686.html">[Mageia-discuss] logo proposal +</A><A NAME="1686"> </A> +<I>Ricardo Manuel Arroyo Alvarado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001675.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010 +</A><A NAME="1675"> </A> +<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001677.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010 +</A><A NAME="1677"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001678.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010 +</A><A NAME="1678"> </A> +<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001679.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1679"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001680.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1680"> </A> +<I>chag +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001681.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1681"> </A> +<I>Thomas Spuhler +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001685.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1685"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001688.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1688"> </A> +<I>Thomas Backlund +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001690.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1690"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001691.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1691"> </A> +<I>Thomas Backlund +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1693"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001694.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1694"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001695.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1695"> </A> +<I>Thomas Backlund +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001696.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1696"> </A> +<I>Samuel Verschelde +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001697.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1697"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001698.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1698"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001699.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1699"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001700.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1700"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001701.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1701"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001704.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1704"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001706.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1706"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001707.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1707"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001709.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1709"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001710.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1710"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001712.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1712"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001731.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1731"> </A> +<I>Dick Gevers +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001732.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1732"> </A> +<I>Dick Gevers +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001734.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1734"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001735.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1735"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001741.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1741"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001752.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1752"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001753.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1753"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001754.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1754"> </A> +<I>Tomasz Paweł Gajc +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001757.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1757"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001758.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1758"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001759.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1759"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001760.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1760"> </A> +<I>Thomas Backlund +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1761"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001762.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1762"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1764"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001765.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1765"> </A> +<I>Dick Gevers +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001766.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1766"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001767.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1767"> </A> +<I>Tomasz Paweł Gajc +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001750.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal +</A><A NAME="1750"> </A> +<I>Wayne Sallee +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001748.html">[Mageia-discuss] Question about the fork. +</A><A NAME="1748"> </A> +<I>Wayne Sallee +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001749.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1749"> </A> +<I>Wayne Sallee +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001745.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1745"> </A> +<I>Wayne Sallee +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001747.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1747"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001676.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong ref in the blog page +</A><A NAME="1676"> </A> +<I>Philippe DIDIER +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001674.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to twitter in blog page +</A><A NAME="1674"> </A> +<I>Philippe DIDIER +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001692.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to twitter in blog page +</A><A NAME="1692"> </A> +<I>Damien Lallement +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Fri Oct 1 23:45:38 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Oct 4 13:46:32 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/thread.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/thread.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..05415ed14 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101001/thread.html @@ -0,0 +1,683 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 1 October 2010 Archive by thread</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>1 October 2010 Archives by thread</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Oct 1 01:28:46 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Oct 1 23:45:38 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 96<p> + <ul> + +<!--0 01285889326- --> +<LI><A HREF="001674.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to twitter in blog page +</A><A NAME="1674"> </A> +<I>Philippe DIDIER +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285889326-01285915010- --> +<LI><A HREF="001692.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to twitter in blog page +</A><A NAME="1692"> </A> +<I>Damien Lallement +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285889615- --> +<LI><A HREF="001675.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010 +</A><A NAME="1675"> </A> +<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285889615-01285890864- --> +<LI><A HREF="001677.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010 +</A><A NAME="1677"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285889615-01285890864-01285893565- --> +<LI><A HREF="001678.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia en Enli2010 +</A><A NAME="1678"> </A> +<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285889805- --> +<LI><A HREF="001676.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong ref in the blog page +</A><A NAME="1676"> </A> +<I>Philippe DIDIER +</I> + +<!--0 01285896749- --> +<LI><A HREF="001679.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1679"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285896749-01285899318- --> +<LI><A HREF="001680.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1680"> </A> +<I>chag +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285896749-01285899318-01285913396- --> +<LI><A HREF="001688.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1688"> </A> +<I>Thomas Backlund +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285896749-01285899318-01285913396-01285913741- --> +<LI><A HREF="001690.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1690"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<!--3 01285896749-01285899318-01285913396-01285913741-01285923059- --> +<LI><A HREF="001700.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1700"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--3 01285896749-01285899318-01285913396-01285913741-01285924137- --> +<LI><A HREF="001701.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1701"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<!--3 01285896749-01285899318-01285913396-01285913741-01285924137-01285931419- --> +<LI><A HREF="001709.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1709"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<!--3 01285896749-01285899318-01285913396-01285913741-01285924137-01285931419-01285932483- --> +<LI><A HREF="001712.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1712"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +</UL> +<!--2 01285896749-01285899318-01285917514- --> +<LI><A HREF="001693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1693"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<!--2 01285896749-01285899318-01285930628- --> +<LI><A HREF="001706.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1706"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01285896749-01285900258- --> +<LI><A HREF="001681.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1681"> </A> +<I>Thomas Spuhler +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285896749-01285900258-01285902999- --> +<LI><A HREF="001685.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1685"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<!--2 01285896749-01285900258-01285917621- --> +<LI><A HREF="001694.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1694"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285896749-01285900258-01285917621-01285922876- --> +<LI><A HREF="001698.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1698"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +</UL> +<!--2 01285896749-01285900258-01285922820- --> +<LI><A HREF="001697.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1697"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285896749-01285900258-01285922820-01285930854- --> +<LI><A HREF="001707.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1707"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--1 01285896749-01285914084- --> +<LI><A HREF="001691.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1691"> </A> +<I>Thomas Backlund +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285896749-01285914084-01285918108- --> +<LI><A HREF="001695.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1695"> </A> +<I>Thomas Backlund +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285896749-01285914084-01285918108-01285923017- --> +<LI><A HREF="001699.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1699"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--3 01285896749-01285914084-01285918108-01285923017-01285929996- --> +<LI><A HREF="001704.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1704"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +<!--3 01285896749-01285914084-01285918108-01285923017-01285929996-01285953406- --> +<LI><A HREF="001752.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1752"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<!--3 01285896749-01285914084-01285918108-01285923017-01285929996-01285953406-01285953814- --> +<LI><A HREF="001753.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1753"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<!--3 01285896749-01285914084-01285918108-01285923017-01285929996-01285953406-01285956623- --> +<LI><A HREF="001757.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1757"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<!--3 01285896749-01285914084-01285918108-01285923017-01285929996-01285956664- --> +<LI><A HREF="001758.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1758"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +<!--3 01285896749-01285914084-01285918108-01285923017-01285929996-01285956664-01285957202- --> +<LI><A HREF="001759.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1759"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<!--3 01285896749-01285914084-01285918108-01285923017-01285929996-01285956664-01285957736- --> +<LI><A HREF="001761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1761"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<!--3 01285896749-01285914084-01285918108-01285923017-01285929996-01285956664-01285957736-01285959088- --> +<LI><A HREF="001764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1764"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +<!--3 01285896749-01285914084-01285918108-01285923017-01285929996-01285956664-01285957736-01285959574- --> +<LI><A HREF="001766.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1766"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<!--3 01285896749-01285914084-01285918108-01285923017-01285929996-01285956664-01285959318- --> +<LI><A HREF="001765.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1765"> </A> +<I>Dick Gevers +</I> + +<!--3 01285896749-01285914084-01285918108-01285923017-01285929996-01285957602- --> +<LI><A HREF="001760.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1760"> </A> +<I>Thomas Backlund +</I> + +<!--3 01285896749-01285914084-01285918108-01285945170- --> +<LI><A HREF="001734.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1734"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<!--3 01285896749-01285914084-01285918108-01285945170-01285945766- --> +<LI><A HREF="001735.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1735"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +</UL> +<!--2 01285896749-01285914084-01285931469- --> +<LI><A HREF="001710.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1710"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285896749-01285914084-01285931469-01285944070- --> +<LI><A HREF="001731.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1731"> </A> +<I>Dick Gevers +</I> + +<!--3 01285896749-01285914084-01285931469-01285944070-01285944162- --> +<LI><A HREF="001732.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1732"> </A> +<I>Dick Gevers +</I> + +<!--3 01285896749-01285914084-01285931469-01285944070-01285944162-01285947437- --> +<LI><A HREF="001741.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1741"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--1 01285896749-01285922188- --> +<LI><A HREF="001696.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1696"> </A> +<I>Samuel Verschelde +</I> + +<!--1 01285896749-01285954566- --> +<LI><A HREF="001754.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1754"> </A> +<I>Tomasz Paweł Gajc +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285896749-01285954566-01285958499- --> +<LI><A HREF="001762.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1762"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285896749-01285954566-01285958499-01285961249- --> +<LI><A HREF="001767.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A><A NAME="1767"> </A> +<I>Tomasz Paweł Gajc +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285900919- --> +<LI><A HREF="001682.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1682"> </A> +<I>futureway at asia.com +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285900919-01285901817- --> +<LI><A HREF="001683.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1683"> </A> +<I>Frank Weng (a.k.a. Franklin) +</I> + +<!--1 01285900919-01285902693- --> +<LI><A HREF="001684.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1684"> </A> +<I>Funda Wang +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285905584- --> +<LI><A HREF="001686.html">[Mageia-discuss] logo proposal +</A><A NAME="1686"> </A> +<I>Ricardo Manuel Arroyo Alvarado +</I> + +<!--0 01285912674- --> +<LI><A HREF="001687.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1687"> </A> +<I>futureway at asia.com +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285912674-01285913699- --> +<LI><A HREF="001689.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1689"> </A> +<I>Frank Weng (a.k.a. Franklin) +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285912674-01285913699-01285929212- --> +<LI><A HREF="001702.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1702"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01285912674-01285938551- --> +<LI><A HREF="001717.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1717"> </A> +<I>You-Cheng Hsieh +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285929511- --> +<LI><A HREF="001703.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1703"> </A> +<I>Fabrice Facorat +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285929511-01285930370- --> +<LI><A HREF="001705.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1705"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285929511-01285930370-01285938189- --> +<LI><A HREF="001716.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1716"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285929511-01285930370-01285938189-01285940449- --> +<LI><A HREF="001723.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1723"> </A> +<I>Olav Dahlum +</I> + +<!--3 01285929511-01285930370-01285938189-01285940611- --> +<LI><A HREF="001724.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1724"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +<!--3 01285929511-01285930370-01285938189-01285940611-01285940834- --> +<LI><A HREF="001725.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1725"> </A> +<I>Olav Dahlum +</I> + +<!--3 01285929511-01285930370-01285938189-01285940611-01285940834-01285941187- --> +<LI><A HREF="001728.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1728"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--1 01285929511-01285935291- --> +<LI><A HREF="001715.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1715"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<!--1 01285929511-01285936050- --> +<LI><A HREF="002127.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="2127"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<!--1 01285929511-01285938860- --> +<LI><A HREF="001718.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1718"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285929511-01285938860-01285939344- --> +<LI><A HREF="001720.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1720"> </A> +<I>Fabrice Facorat +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285930994- --> +<LI><A HREF="001708.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1708"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<!--0 01285932188- --> +<LI><A HREF="001711.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1711"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285932188-01285932685- --> +<LI><A HREF="001713.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1713"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285932188-01285932685-01285933045- --> +<LI><A HREF="001714.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1714"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01285932188-01285938926- --> +<LI><A HREF="001719.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1719"> </A> +<I>Fabrice Facorat +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285932188-01285938926-01285939527- --> +<LI><A HREF="001721.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1721"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285932188-01285938926-01285939527-01285939939- --> +<LI><A HREF="001722.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1722"> </A> +<I>Fabrice Facorat +</I> + +<!--3 01285932188-01285938926-01285939527-01285941002- --> +<LI><A HREF="001727.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1727"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<!--3 01285932188-01285938926-01285939527-01285941002-01285944258- --> +<LI><A HREF="001733.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="1733"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285940903- --> +<LI><A HREF="001726.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cross postings +</A><A NAME="1726"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285940903-01285943016- --> +<LI><A HREF="001730.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cross postings +</A><A NAME="1730"> </A> +<I>Paul De Vlieger +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285946320- --> +<LI><A HREF="001736.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1736"> </A> +<I>Egner Quero +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285946320-01285946695- --> +<LI><A HREF="001737.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1737"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285946320-01285946695-01285947025- --> +<LI><A HREF="001738.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1738"> </A> +<I>Adrian Marcinkowski +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285946320-01285946695-01285947025-01285947197- --> +<LI><A HREF="001740.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1740"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<!--3 01285946320-01285946695-01285947025-01285947592- --> +<LI><A HREF="001742.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1742"> </A> +<I>Egner Quero +</I> + +<!--3 01285946320-01285946695-01285947025-01285947592-01285947788- --> +<LI><A HREF="001743.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1743"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<!--3 01285946320-01285946695-01285947025-01285947592-01285947788-01285948847- --> +<LI><A HREF="001746.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1746"> </A> +<I>Egner Quero +</I> + +<!--3 01285946320-01285946695-01285947025-01285947592-01285947788-01285948847-01285953233- --> +<LI><A HREF="001751.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1751"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<!--3 01285946320-01285946695-01285947025-01285947592-01285947788-01285948847-01285953233-01285954332- --> +<LI><A HREF="001755.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1755"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<!--3 01285946320-01285946695-01285947025-01285947592-01285947788-01285948847-01285953233-01285954332-01285955348- --> +<LI><A HREF="001756.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1756"> </A> +<I>Egner Quero +</I> + +<!--3 01285946320-01285946695-01285947025-01285947592-01285947788-01285948847-01285969538- --> +<LI><A HREF="001769.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1769"> </A> +<I>Adrian Marcinkowski +</I> + +<!--3 01285946320-01285946695-01285947025-01285947592-01285948082- --> +<LI><A HREF="001744.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1744"> </A> +<I>Egner Quero +</I> + +</UL> +<!--2 01285946320-01285946695-01285947176- --> +<LI><A HREF="001739.html">[Mageia-discuss] Another proposal for mageia logo +</A><A NAME="1739"> </A> +<I>Egner Quero +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285947858- --> +<LI><A HREF="001745.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1745"> </A> +<I>Wayne Sallee +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285947858-01285948904- --> +<LI><A HREF="001747.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1747"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285948754- --> +<LI><A HREF="001750.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal +</A><A NAME="1750"> </A> +<I>Wayne Sallee +</I> + +<!--0 01285949002- --> +<LI><A HREF="001748.html">[Mageia-discuss] Question about the fork. +</A><A NAME="1748"> </A> +<I>Wayne Sallee +</I> + +<!--0 01285949402- --> +<LI><A HREF="001749.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1749"> </A> +<I>Wayne Sallee +</I> + +<!--0 01285958852- --> +<LI><A HREF="001763.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1763"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<!--0 01285963943- --> +<LI><A HREF="001768.html">[Mageia-discuss] I want Apport to become included in Mageia +</A><A NAME="1768"> </A> +<I>Kristoffer Grundström +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Fri Oct 1 23:45:38 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Oct 4 13:46:32 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