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Keyboards comes with those +</I>>>>><i> little keys that are meant to produce accented characters in +</I>>>>><i> combination with regular letters, and this how it works on Windows, +</I>>>>><i> the platform most users will migrate from, and also on Mac OS X. +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Regular users don't have any use of stand-alone-accent-characters. And +</I>>>>><i> even with deadkeys it is easy to produce the standalone accent by just +</I>>>>><i> pressing the key twice (so you can get backticks easily). +</I>>>>><i> If you're a programmer and are using a nodeadkeys variant for that +</I>>>>><i> reason, you're not the target population of a suggested default. (If +</I>>>>><i> you know what is meant with "deadkeys" and "nodeadkeys", you're not in +</I>>>>><i> target of that dialog, and have the knowledge to not accept the +</I>>>>><i> default, but choose the nodeadkeys variant that is listed right next +</I>>>>><i> to the regular variant). +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> The variant with deadkeys is called "German" without any addition for +</I>>>>><i> a reason. If nodeadkeys were the expected/more common choice, then it +</I>>>>><i> would be "German (international)" or "German (deadkeys)", like it is +</I>>>>><i> the case for the US-variants. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> So Olivier, do you agree with that change or not? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It may be logical but German users have been taught to use +</I>><i> "nodeadkeys" for ages. Changing this now just because of semantics +</I>><i> does not seem to be a wise move (I always use "German"). But OTOH it +</I>><i> is not such a big thing. It will cause the usual number of questions +</I>><i> in the forums ("MAG3 breaks my keyboard!") but this will vanish over +</I>><i> the years. :) +</I>><i> +</I>This must have slipped my mind... +I concur with wobo. This change will cause such forums posts but that +will be solved soon after Mga3 release. +The question is, how do other distros do it? A colleague just told me, +his Ubuntu chose the no dead key variant by default. +What about Fedora and openSUSE or don't we care at all? + +As for myself, I will just change it back on my systems so it's no big deal. + +Oliver + +-- +Oliver Burger aka obgr_seneca + +Mageia contributor +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="017804.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [4436] german keyboard: default to variant with enabled deadkeys instead of "nodeadkeys variant" ( mga#3791) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="017809.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] remove support for /etc/rpm/macros.d/*.macros +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#17806">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#17806">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#17806">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#17806">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |