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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 09/08/12 20:55 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 9 August 2012 21:51, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But even since I know it has changed, 10 years habits had me typing
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> halt and then saying some bad words as it meant I would not be able to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> power it on again for a few days.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> OK, how about a compromise, &quot;urpmi restore-broken-halt-command&quot; which
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> just contains a single file /etc/profile.d/99broken-halt-command.sh
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> which contains:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> alias halt=poweroff
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Well my own machine already has halt='halt -p' since the day I lost it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> like that :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What annoys me is that I don't see the point of changing the default
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> behavior of a (quite important) command while the new default is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> something people would only want to use in very rare cases and will
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> cause problems to most of them.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well, for me personally, I always prefer to fix things that are broken
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and not use history as an excuse for keeping broken behaviour.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I could counter argue that's a lame excuse for breaking existing documented
+</I>&gt;<i> behavior. Scores of people rely on that behavior.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What's more it's an established behavior in some communauties (eg: the kernel
+</I>&gt;<i> one) to not break usage for the purpose to fix things if it breaks
+</I>&gt;<i> existing apps or
+</I>&gt;<i> usage.
+</I>
+Well as I've said if you can convince upstream I'll happily go with
+that. I do not want to introduce patches for this, although I will be
+happy enough with a workaround.
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+&gt;&gt;<i> It
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> doesn't take long to adapt to new commands and the people of the future
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> will never need to learn the history behind why such a quirk exists.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And what about DMs that call &quot;halt&quot; ?
+</I>
+They can, and should be updated to call poweroff instead. Or better to
+integrate into dbus and call things that way (which is needed to provide
+nice warnings about other users/sessions etc. anyway).
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+Col
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