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Scores of people rely on that behavior. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What's more it's an established behavior in some communauties (eg: the kernel +</I>><i> one) to not break usage for the purpose to fix things if it breaks +</I>><i> existing apps or +</I>><i> usage. +</I> +Well as I've said if you can convince upstream I'll happily go with +that. I do not want to introduce patches for this, although I will be +happy enough with a workaround. + +>><i> It +</I>>><i> doesn't take long to adapt to new commands and the people of the future +</I>>><i> will never need to learn the history behind why such a quirk exists. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And what about DMs that call "halt" ? +</I> +They can, and should be updated to call poweroff instead. Or better to +integrate into dbus and call things that way (which is needed to provide +nice warnings about other users/sessions etc. anyway). + +Col + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +colin(at)mageia.org +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A> +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A> + PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A> + Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="018030.html">[Mageia-dev] latest kernels not powering off machines on shutdown +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="018028.html">[Mageia-dev] latest kernels not powering off machines on shutdown +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#18032">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#18032">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#18032">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#18032">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |