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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2011-August/007287.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2011-August/007287.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d427990bd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2011-August/007287.html @@ -0,0 +1,125 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] RM replacement + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20RM%20replacement&In-Reply-To=%3C4E3F65EC.3010508%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007286.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007254.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] RM replacement</H1> + <B>andre999</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20RM%20replacement&In-Reply-To=%3C4E3F65EC.3010508%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] RM replacement">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Aug 8 06:28:28 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007286.html">[Mageia-dev] RM replacement +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007254.html">[Mageia-dev] RM replacement +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7287">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7287">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7287">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7287">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz a écrit : +><i> Le Dimanche 07 Août 2011 23:03:15 Florian Hubold a écrit : +</I>>><i> Am 07.08.2011 16:41, schrieb Pierre Jarillon: +</I>>>><i> Le vendredi 5 août 2011 16:23:19, Florian Hubold a écrit : +</I>>>>><i> Am 05.08.2011 14:58, schrieb andre999: +</I>>>>>><i> Colin Guthrie a écrit : +</I>>>>>>><i> I think srm should just be a tool people use explicitly when they +</I>>>>>>><i> want +</I>>>>>>><i> to. +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>><i> When I think about it, deleting with a pattern instead of just zeros +</I>>>>>><i> is +</I>>>>>><i> probably only advantageous when a disk is being disposed of -- in +</I>>>>>><i> which +</I>>>>>><i> case srm being a userspace tool is not a disadvantage. +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>>><i> Col +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Well, if you want to dispose the disk, then i'd use something like +</I>>>>><i> Dariks>> +</I>>>>><i> Boot and Nuke (DBAN): +</I>>>>><i> <A HREF="http://www.dban.org/">http://www.dban.org/</A> +</I>>>>><i> It offers really secure methods of overwriting your data with varying +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> patterns, and if you want to dispose a whole disk. then maybe an +</I>>>>><i> userspace tool to delete single +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> files is not the best suited tool, IMHO. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Do you know WIPE ? <A HREF="http://wipe.sourceforge.net/">http://wipe.sourceforge.net/</A> +</I>>>><i> I don't know if it is the most secured rm, but it could be. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Yes, and it has the advantage that you don't need to reboot. Good point! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes, but more than the tool is how to replace rm command +</I>><i> +</I>><i> LD +</I> +I think it is useful to question WHY particular files should be securely deleted. + +For disposing of a disk, something like DBAN would be an excellent tool. (WIPE +seems a little dated, since a lot of disk technology has changed since 2004.) + +For individual files, if the particular file should really be securely disposed +of, then maybe training the users disposing of such files to use srm could be a +useful approach. (There would likely be no point in securely deleting most files.) + +Then there is always the option of an administrator using srm on items in the +trash folders on a regular basis. This could be done automatically by a shell +script, if desired. + +A utility that periodically sanitizes free space could be useful, as well. + +Changes in the filesystem or the kernel seems the only reliable way to ensure +consistantly securely deleting all (or all of a defined subset of) files. + +-- +André +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007286.html">[Mageia-dev] RM replacement +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007254.html">[Mageia-dev] RM replacement +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7287">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7287">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7287">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7287">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |