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authorPascal Rigaux <pixel@mandriva.com>2004-06-02 15:50:07 +0000
committerPascal Rigaux <pixel@mandriva.com>2004-06-02 15:50:07 +0000
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> pterjan skrev 31.12.2012 23:58:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Name : iurt Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Version : 0.6.16 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Release : 1.mga3 Build Date: Mon Dec 31
+</I>22:55:20 2012
+&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> pterjan &lt;pterjan&gt; 0.6.16-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 336797
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - 0.6.16
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * fix chroot cleaning in parallel mode
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * fix for some packages missing from status file
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> btw, 0.6.15 broke the BS on valstar with this error:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not a HASH reference at /usr/bin/emi line 195.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I rolled back to 0.6.13 that was in use before.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is this package safe to install ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Probably not, I haven't touched emi (I think boklm and tv did in previoys
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+
+Name : rpm-mageia-setup Relocations: (not relocatable)
+Version : 1.165 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+Release : 1.mga3 Build Date: Mon Dec 31 20:22:14 2012
+Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: ecosse.mageia.org
+Group : System/Configuration/Packaging Source RPM: (none)
+Size : 271779 License: GPLv2+
+Signature : (none)
+Packager : tmb &lt;tmb&gt;
+URL :<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+Summary : The Mageia rpm configuration and scripts
+Description :
+The Mageia rpm configuration and scripts.
+
+tmb &lt;tmb&gt; 1.165-1.mga3:
++ Revision: 336686
+- set libexec dir to /usr/libexec
+
+Is this libexec the final change? If yes, then we should update i.a. cmake.macros.
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+&gt;<i> Thomas Backlund skrev 31.12.2012 17:09:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Guillaume Rousse skrev 31.12.2012 16:24:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I can't suceed submitting metasploit, because of some rpmlint error:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Submission errors, aborting:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - metasploit-4.5-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - unexpanded-macro
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; /usr/share/metasploit/lib/gemcache/ruby/1.9.1/gems/railties-3.2.8/lib/rai
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; ls/generators/rails/plugin_new/templates/lib/%name%/engine.rb
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; %name
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I did update rpmlint-mageia-policy a week ago (0.2.25), but the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; configuration used on the host running the check seems to still use the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; previous version. Do we need an explicit actions from sysadmins here ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Yep.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'll check it out tonight unless any other sysadmin beats me to it....
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> New rpmlint and policy now in place.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also -debuginfo packages should now be ok and the changes for /run,
+</I>&gt;<i> and checking for udev, systemd and tmpfiles location are now in effect
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+hi,
+
+but it seems debuginfo packages are not going on the debug media but on the
+main media ( see in core/release )
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+&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Name : rpm-mageia-setup Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version : 1.165 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release : 1.mga3 Build Date: Mon Dec 31 20:22:14 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: ecosse.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> Group : System/Configuration/Packaging Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Size : 271779 License: GPLv2+
+</I>&gt;<i> Signature : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager : tmb &lt;tmb&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL :<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary : The Mageia rpm configuration and scripts
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> The Mageia rpm configuration and scripts.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> tmb &lt;tmb&gt; 1.165-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 336686
+</I>&gt;<i> - set libexec dir to /usr/libexec
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is this libexec the final change? If yes, then we should update i.a. cmake.macros.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+Thats the intention, yes.
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+&gt;<i> Le lundi 31 d&#233;cembre 2012 20:39:16 Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Backlund skrev 31.12.2012 17:09:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Guillaume Rousse skrev 31.12.2012 16:24:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I can't suceed submitting metasploit, because of some rpmlint error:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Submission errors, aborting:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - metasploit-4.5-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - unexpanded-macro
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/share/metasploit/lib/gemcache/ruby/1.9.1/gems/railties-3.2.8/lib/rai
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ls/generators/rails/plugin_new/templates/lib/%name%/engine.rb
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %name
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I did update rpmlint-mageia-policy a week ago (0.2.25), but the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> configuration used on the host running the check seems to still use the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> previous version. Do we need an explicit actions from sysadmins here ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Yep.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'll check it out tonight unless any other sysadmin beats me to it....
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> New rpmlint and policy now in place.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also -debuginfo packages should now be ok and the changes for /run,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and checking for udev, systemd and tmpfiles location are now in effect
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> but it seems debuginfo packages are not going on the debug media but on the
+</I>&gt;<i> main media ( see in core/release )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Gah, so we still have the uploader scripts doing name matching on
+&quot;-debug&quot; to set where to upload...
+
+I'll try to take a look.
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+&gt;<i> Nicolas L&#233;cureuil skrev 1.1.2013 05:41:
+</I>
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but it seems debuginfo packages are not going on the debug media but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> main media ( see in core/release )
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Gah, so we still have the uploader scripts doing name matching on
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;-debug&quot; to set where to upload...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll try to take a look.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+New perl-Youri-Package installed on valstar, so it should work now.
+
+existing &quot;-debuginfo&quot; packages moved from core/release to
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> pterjan &lt;pterjan&gt; 0.6.16-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 336797
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - 0.6.16
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * fix chroot cleaning in parallel mode
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * fix for some packages missing from status file
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> btw, 0.6.15 broke the BS on valstar with this error:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Not a HASH reference at /usr/bin/emi line 195.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So I rolled back to 0.6.13 that was in use before.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is this package safe to install ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Probably not, I haven't touched emi (I think boklm and tv did in previoys
+</I>&gt;<i> version). I'll have a look
+</I>
+You can try latest SVN
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 1 January 2013 02:17, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> pterjan &lt;pterjan&gt; 0.6.16-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 336797
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - 0.6.16
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * fix chroot cleaning in parallel mode
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * fix for some packages missing from status file
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> btw, 0.6.15 broke the BS on valstar with this error:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Not a HASH reference at /usr/bin/emi line 195.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So I rolled back to 0.6.13 that was in use before.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Is this package safe to install ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Probably not, I haven't touched emi (I think boklm and tv did in previoys
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> version). I'll have a look
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can try latest SVN
+</I>
+The code doesn't look correct for the old format of the config file:
+
+The code was:
+
+- if (ref $config-&gt;{mandatory_arch} eq 'ARRAY') {
+- $mandatory_arch = $config-&gt;{mandatory_arch};
+- } elsif (ref $config-&gt;{mandatory_arch}-&gt;{$target} eq 'ARRAY') {
+- $mandatory_arch = $config-&gt;{mandatory_arch}-&gt;{$target};
+- } elsif (ref $config-&gt;{mandatory_arch}-&gt;{default} eq 'ARRAY') {
+- $mandatory_arch = $config-&gt;{mandatory_arch}-&gt;{default};
+
+But your previous simplification only handle the second and third
+case, not when mandatory_arch is an ARRAY directly.
+The code should work but will consider there is no mandatory arch.
+
+Current configuration (which is the default) is
+$config-&gt;{mandatory_arch} = [ 'i586', 'x86_64' ]
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Thierry Vignaud
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 1 January 2013 02:17, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; pterjan &lt;pterjan&gt; 0.6.16-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; + Revision: 336797
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; - 0.6.16
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * fix chroot cleaning in parallel mode
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * fix for some packages missing from status file
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; btw, 0.6.15 broke the BS on valstar with this error:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Not a HASH reference at /usr/bin/emi line 195.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; So I rolled back to 0.6.13 that was in use before.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Is this package safe to install ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Probably not, I haven't touched emi (I think boklm and tv did in previoys
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; version). I'll have a look
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; You can try latest SVN
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The code doesn't look correct for the old format of the config file:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The code was:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - if (ref $config-&gt;{mandatory_arch} eq 'ARRAY') {
+</I>&gt;<i> - $mandatory_arch = $config-&gt;{mandatory_arch};
+</I>&gt;<i> - } elsif (ref $config-&gt;{mandatory_arch}-&gt;{$target} eq 'ARRAY') {
+</I>&gt;<i> - $mandatory_arch = $config-&gt;{mandatory_arch}-&gt;{$target};
+</I>&gt;<i> - } elsif (ref $config-&gt;{mandatory_arch}-&gt;{default} eq 'ARRAY') {
+</I>&gt;<i> - $mandatory_arch = $config-&gt;{mandatory_arch}-&gt;{default};
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But your previous simplification only handle the second and third
+</I>&gt;<i> case, not when mandatory_arch is an ARRAY directly.
+</I>&gt;<i> The code should work but will consider there is no mandatory arch.
+</I>
+Latest code in svn is :
+
+my $mandatory_arch = find { ref($_) eq 'ARRAY' } $config-&gt;{mandatory_arch},
+(ref($config-&gt;{mandatory_arch}) eq 'HASH' ? ($config-&gt;{mandatory_arch}{$target}, $config-&gt;{mandatory_arch}{default}) : ()), [];
+
+So it seems to handle the case with an array in $config-&gt;{mandatory_arch}.
+
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+this is a headsup that I'm about to push glibc-2.17 to core/release...
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+It has worked well in initial test theese last days, so It's time
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+
+You better wait for both glibc-2.17-1 and locales-2.17-1 to be
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, 01 Jan 2013, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Thierry Vignaud
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; On 1 January 2013 02:17, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; pterjan &lt;pterjan&gt; 0.6.16-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; + Revision: 336797
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; - 0.6.16
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * fix chroot cleaning in parallel mode
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * fix for some packages missing from status file
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; btw, 0.6.15 broke the BS on valstar with this error:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Not a HASH reference at /usr/bin/emi line 195.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; So I rolled back to 0.6.13 that was in use before.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Is this package safe to install ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Probably not, I haven't touched emi (I think boklm and tv did in previoys
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; version). I'll have a look
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; You can try latest SVN
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The code doesn't look correct for the old format of the config file:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The code was:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - if (ref $config-&gt;{mandatory_arch} eq 'ARRAY') {
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - $mandatory_arch = $config-&gt;{mandatory_arch};
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - } elsif (ref $config-&gt;{mandatory_arch}-&gt;{$target} eq 'ARRAY') {
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - $mandatory_arch = $config-&gt;{mandatory_arch}-&gt;{$target};
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - } elsif (ref $config-&gt;{mandatory_arch}-&gt;{default} eq 'ARRAY') {
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - $mandatory_arch = $config-&gt;{mandatory_arch}-&gt;{default};
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But your previous simplification only handle the second and third
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> case, not when mandatory_arch is an ARRAY directly.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The code should work but will consider there is no mandatory arch.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Latest code in svn is :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> my $mandatory_arch = find { ref($_) eq 'ARRAY' } $config-&gt;{mandatory_arch},
+</I>&gt;<i> (ref($config-&gt;{mandatory_arch}) eq 'HASH' ? ($config-&gt;{mandatory_arch}{$target}, $config-&gt;{mandatory_arch}{default}) : ()), [];
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So it seems to handle the case with an array in $config-&gt;{mandatory_arch}.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Ah yes sorry I had misread the &quot;,&quot; :)
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+<PRE>Thomas Backlund skrev 1.1.2013 16:15:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> this is a headsup that I'm about to push glibc-2.17 to core/release...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It has worked well in initial test theese last days, so It's time
+</I>&gt;<i> for all to start using it :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You better wait for both glibc-2.17-1 and locales-2.17-1 to be
+</I>&gt;<i> available before updating or you will get many packages removed
+</I>&gt;<i> due to missing locales*
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+And glibc-2.17-1 and locales-2.17-1 are now built and should soon
+show up on the mirrors and it should be safe to update then...
+
+Have fun...
+
+--
+Thomas
+
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+ <B>Eatdirt</B>
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+<PRE>On 12/31/2012 08:38 PM, Eatdirt wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i> I have just installed mga3 beta1 on a brand new machine for my folks and
+</I>&gt;<i> everything went fantastically fine in a first try. Congrats.
+</I>
+Hi again,
+I am reporting here some post-install bugs:
+
+1a) gnome-shell-extension does not work, it is impossible to add or
+configure any of those. In .xsession-error, there are some logs claiming
+that gnome-shell version cannot be determined
+
+1b) Plugging an usb external drive, or digital camera, triggers
+audacious, or if I remove audacious, triggers konqueror, or if I remove
+konqueror triggers baobab, and at last, if I remove baobab trigger
+opening the file manager nautilus!!!! This happens whatever the settings
+I add in the configuration panel for photo device, and there is no
+visible choice for USB drive.
+
+[after this, my personal opinion is that gnome 3 deeply sucks and my
+folks are now lost even with the gnome-classic interface :)]
+
+2) a neeeded scsi module is properly loaded (film scanner)
+
+aic7xxx : Adaptec|AIC-7850 [STORAGE_SCSI] (rev: 03)
+
+but the corresponding device is not created making xsane and other
+software not finding the scanner. After some searches, this is because
+the scsi modules (sg) are never loaded; so adding &quot;sg&quot; in
+module.preload.d is enough to fix the issue, but some udev rules are
+screwed up maybe.
+
+3) there is no /dev/dvd symlink to the only dvd device (/dev/sr0),
+although /dev/cdrom symlink is properly created. So all dvd applications
+fail, like xine, smplayer, mplayer etc...
+
+4) A Kernel trace in the logs, which does not seem to prevent the
+graphic working though:
+
+
+ [ 37.846873] ------------[ cut here ]------------
+[ 37.846885] WARNING: at drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_dp.c:392
+intel_dp_aux_ch+0xe1/0x390 [i915]()
+[ 37.846886] Hardware name: System Product Name
+[ 37.846886] dp_aux_ch not started status 0x8145003f
+[ 37.846887] Modules linked in: i915(+) drm_kms_helper drm
+i2c_algo_bit joydev hid_generic eeepc_wmi asus_wmi usbhid snd_usb_audio
+snd_usbmidi_lib snd_rawmidi coretemp hid sparse_keymap crc32c_intel
+ghash_clmulni_intel aesni_intel aes_x86_64 uvcvideo videobuf2_vmalloc
+videobuf2_memops videobuf2_core videodev media sg snd_seq_device
+iTCO_wdt iTCO_vendor_support rfkill pci_hotplug ablk_helper evdev cryptd
+cpufreq_ondemand cpufreq_conservative cpufreq_powersave acpi_cpufreq
+mperf snd_hda_codec_hdmi snd_hda_codec_realtek snd_hda_intel
+snd_hda_codec snd_hwdep snd_pcm snd_page_alloc snd_timer snd lpc_ich mei
+i2c_i801 i2c_core serio_raw xts lrw gf128mul thermal fan video soundcore
+wmi button processor r8169 mii kvm ipv6 autofs4 ext4 crc16 jbd2 ehci_hcd
+xhci_hcd usbcore sd_mod sr_mod crc_t10dif usb_common
+[ 37.846910] ahci libahci ata_piix libata aic7xxx scsi_transport_spi
+scsi_mod [last unloaded: microcode]
+[ 37.846914] Pid: 1049, comm: modprobe Tainted: G W
+3.7.1-desktop-1.mga3 #1
+[ 37.846914] Call Trace:
+[ 37.846917] [&lt;ffffffff81055eef&gt;] warn_slowpath_common+0x7f/0xc0
+[ 37.846919] [&lt;ffffffff81055fe6&gt;] warn_slowpath_fmt+0x46/0x50
+[ 37.846927] [&lt;ffffffffa05ce131&gt;] intel_dp_aux_ch+0xe1/0x390 [i915]
+[ 37.846933] [&lt;ffffffffa05ce495&gt;]
+intel_dp_aux_native_read_retry+0xb5/0x140 [i915]
+[ 37.846939] [&lt;ffffffffa05cea34&gt;] intel_dp_get_dpcd+0x24/0x80 [i915]
+[ 37.846944] [&lt;ffffffffa05ceaad&gt;] intel_dp_detect_dpcd+0x1d/0x110 [i915]
+[ 37.846949] [&lt;ffffffffa05cefe8&gt;] intel_dp_detect+0x58/0x2a0 [i915]
+[ 37.846952] [&lt;ffffffffa058e6da&gt;]
+drm_helper_probe_single_connector_modes+0x27a/0x330 [drm_kms_helper]
+[ 37.846953] [&lt;ffffffffa058bef0&gt;]
+drm_fb_helper_probe_connector_modes.isra.2+0x50/0x70 [drm_kms_helper]
+[ 37.846955] [&lt;ffffffffa058d533&gt;]
+drm_fb_helper_initial_config+0x1a3/0x230 [drm_kms_helper]
+[ 37.846958] [&lt;ffffffff810da3cf&gt;] ? request_threaded_irq+0xaf/0x1b0
+[ 37.846960] [&lt;ffffffff8116521d&gt;] ? __kmalloc+0x13d/0x170
+[ 37.846961] [&lt;ffffffffa058c33e&gt;] ? drm_fb_helper_init+0xfe/0x200
+[drm_kms_helper]
+[ 37.846963] [&lt;ffffffffa058c33e&gt;] ? drm_fb_helper_init+0xfe/0x200
+[drm_kms_helper]
+[ 37.846964] [&lt;ffffffff8116536f&gt;] ? kmem_cache_alloc_trace+0x11f/0x130
+[ 37.846966] [&lt;ffffffffa058c487&gt;] ?
+drm_fb_helper_single_add_all_connectors+0x47/0xf0 [drm_kms_helper]
+[ 37.846968] [&lt;ffffffffa058c487&gt;] ?
+drm_fb_helper_single_add_all_connectors+0x47/0xf0 [drm_kms_helper]
+[ 37.846976] [&lt;ffffffffa05df6ac&gt;] intel_fbdev_init+0x8c/0xc0 [i915]
+[ 37.846983] [&lt;ffffffffa059bf6b&gt;] i915_driver_load+0xd6b/0xee0 [i915]
+[ 37.846990] [&lt;ffffffffa053af26&gt;] drm_get_pci_dev+0x186/0x2d0 [drm]
+[ 37.846999] [&lt;ffffffffa05ecd34&gt;] i915_pci_probe+0x78/0x81 [i915]
+[ 37.847001] [&lt;ffffffff812816a9&gt;] local_pci_probe+0x79/0x100
+[ 37.847003] [&lt;ffffffff81281841&gt;] pci_device_probe+0x111/0x120
+[ 37.847005] [&lt;ffffffff81332c9b&gt;] driver_probe_device+0x8b/0x3a0
+[ 37.847007] [&lt;ffffffff8133305b&gt;] __driver_attach+0xab/0xb0
+[ 37.847008] [&lt;ffffffff81332fb0&gt;] ? driver_probe_device+0x3a0/0x3a0
+[ 37.847009] [&lt;ffffffff81330d15&gt;] bus_for_each_dev+0x55/0x90
+[ 37.847011] [&lt;ffffffff813326de&gt;] driver_attach+0x1e/0x20
+[ 37.847012] [&lt;ffffffff81332240&gt;] bus_add_driver+0x1a0/0x290
+[ 37.847015] [&lt;ffffffffa0623000&gt;] ? 0xffffffffa0622fff
+[ 37.847016] [&lt;ffffffffa0623000&gt;] ? 0xffffffffa0622fff
+[ 37.847018] [&lt;ffffffff81333747&gt;] driver_register+0x77/0x170
+[ 37.847020] [&lt;ffffffffa0623000&gt;] ? 0xffffffffa0622fff
+[ 37.847021] [&lt;ffffffff812805b8&gt;] __pci_register_driver+0x48/0x50
+[ 37.847025] [&lt;ffffffffa053b18a&gt;] drm_pci_init+0x11a/0x130 [drm]
+[ 37.847027] [&lt;ffffffffa0623000&gt;] ? 0xffffffffa0622fff
+[ 37.847033] [&lt;ffffffffa0623066&gt;] i915_init+0x66/0x68 [i915]
+[ 37.847035] [&lt;ffffffff8100216a&gt;] do_one_initcall+0x12a/0x180
+[ 37.847037] [&lt;ffffffff810ba4e0&gt;] sys_init_module+0xc0/0x220
+[ 37.847038] [&lt;ffffffff8149d0ad&gt;] system_call_fastpath+0x1a/0x1f
+[ 37.847039] ---[ end trace 024caa21f76eaf8c ]---
+
+
+
+lscpidrake returns:
+
+
+aic7xxx : Adaptec|AIC-7850 [STORAGE_SCSI] (rev: 03)
+unknown : ASMedia Technology Inc.|ASM108x PCIe to PCI Bridge
+Controller [BRIDGE_PCI] (rev: 03)
+r8169 : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.|RTL8111/8168B PCI
+Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [NETWORK_ETHERNET] (rev: 09)
+i2c_i801 : Intel Corporation|Panther Point SMBus Controller
+[SERIAL_SMBUS] (rev: 04)
+ahci : Intel Corporation|Panther Point 6 port SATA Controller
+[AHCI mode] [STORAGE_SATA] (rev: 04)
+lpc_ich : Intel Corporation|Panther Point LPC Controller
+[BRIDGE_ISA] (rev: 04)
+ehci_hcd : Intel Corporation|Panther Point USB Enhanced Host
+Controller #1 [SERIAL_USB] (rev: 04)
+unknown : Intel Corporation|82801 PCI Bridge [BRIDGE_PCI] (rev: c4)
+shpchp : Intel Corporation|Panther Point PCI Express Root Port
+5 [BRIDGE_PCI] (rev: c4)
+shpchp : Intel Corporation|Panther Point PCI Express Root Port
+1 [BRIDGE_PCI] (rev: c4)
+snd_hda_intel : Intel Corporation|Panther Point High Definition Audio
+Controller [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO_DEV] (rev: 04)
+ehci_hcd : Intel Corporation|Panther Point USB Enhanced Host
+Controller #2 [SERIAL_USB] (rev: 04)
+mei : Intel Corporation|Panther Point MEI Controller #1
+[COMMUNICATION_OTHER] (rev: 04)
+xhci_hcd : Intel Corporation|Panther Point USB xHCI Host
+Controller [SERIAL_USB] (rev: 04)
+Card:Intel 810 and later: Intel Corporation|Ivy Bridge Graphics
+Controller [DISPLAY_VGA] (rev: 09)
+shpchp : Intel Corporation|Ivy Bridge PCI Express Root Port
+[BRIDGE_PCI] (rev: 09)
+unknown : Intel Corporation|Ivy Bridge DRAM Controller
+[BRIDGE_HOST] (rev: 09)
+hub : Linux 3.7.1-desktop-1.mga3 ehci_hcd|EHCI Host
+Controller [Hub|Unused|Full speed (or root) hub]
+hub : Intel Corp.|Integrated Rate Matching Hub
+[Hub|Unused|Full speed (or root) hub]
+uvcvideo : Creative Labs|VF0530 Live! Cam Chat IM [Video|Video
+Control]
+usbhid : Logitech|USB Optical Mouse [Human Interface
+Device|Boot Interface Subclass|Mouse]
+usbhid : Logitech|USB Keyboard [Human Interface Device|Boot
+Interface Subclass|Keyboard]
+hub : Linux 3.7.1-desktop-1.mga3 ehci_hcd|EHCI Host
+Controller [Hub|Unused|Full speed (or root) hub]
+hub : Intel Corp.|Integrated Rate Matching Hub
+[Hub|Unused|Full speed (or root) hub]
+hub : Linux 3.7.1-desktop-1.mga3 xhci_hcd|xHCI Host
+Controller [Hub|Unused|Full speed (or root) hub]
+hub : Linux 3.7.1-desktop-1.mga3 xhci_hcd|xHCI Host
+Controller [Hub|Unused|Full speed (or root) hub]
+hid_generic : Logitech USB Optical Mouse
+hid_generic : Logitech USB Keyboard
+hid_generic : Logitech USB Keyboard
+
+Cheers,
+Chris.
+
+
+
+
+
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+According to our Mageia 3 planning:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_3_development#Development_Planning">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_3_development#Development_Planning</A>
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+Version freeze is set on Jan 2nd, 2013. Is that still remain the same?
+Sorry if I did miss any messages that it was changed.
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> According to our Mageia 3 planning:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_3_development#Development_Planning">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_3_development#Development_Planning</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i> Version freeze is set on Jan 2nd, 2013. Is that still remain the same?
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry if I did miss any messages that it was changed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+nope we should announce some delay in planning today
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+This last couple of days I've had frequent total freezes of my M2
+system. If I can get to the System Activity monitor in time I can
+kill akonadi_nepomuktag_resource and I can work again - if I'm too
+late I have to hard reset.
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+There must be some way to stop this. It appears to use increasing
+amounts of CPU (and memory?) until it reaches a critical level. What
+could have changed in the last few days to be causing this?
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+Anne
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+&gt;<i> This last couple of days I've had frequent total freezes of my M2
+</I>&gt;<i> system. If I can get to the System Activity monitor in time I can
+</I>&gt;<i> kill akonadi_nepomuktag_resource and I can work again - if I'm too
+</I>&gt;<i> late I have to hard reset.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There must be some way to stop this. It appears to use increasing
+</I>&gt;<i> amounts of CPU (and memory?) until it reaches a critical level. What
+</I>&gt;<i> could have changed in the last few days to be causing this?
+</I>
+you're symptoms look like OOM
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+ie: out of memory
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+imho: nepomuk is a beast and uses too much memory.
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+<PRE>On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 20:31:52 +0100 (CET)
+julien &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Name : claws-mail-extra-plugins Relocations: (not
+</I>&gt;<i> relocatable) Version : 3.9.0 Vendor:
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia.Org Release : 3.mga3 Build Date:
+</I>&gt;<i> Wed Jan 2 20:25:23 2013 Install Date: (not installed)
+</I>&gt;<i> Build Host: rabbit.mageia.org Group :
+</I>&gt;<i> Networking/Mail Source RPM: (none) Size :
+</I>&gt;<i> 7816245 License: GPLv3+ Signature : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager : julien &lt;julien&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL : <A HREF="http://www.claws-mail.org/plugins/downloads">http://www.claws-mail.org/plugins/downloads</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary : This package contains additional plugins for claws-mail
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> Claws Mail extra plugins are plugins which are not included in the
+</I>&gt;<i> Claws Mail source package.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This package is a meta-package which requires all those plugins:
+</I>&gt;<i> claws-mail-acpi-plugin
+</I>&gt;<i> claws-mail-att_remover-plugin
+</I>&gt;<i> claws-mail-bsfilter-plugin
+</I>&gt;<i> claws-mail-fancy-plugin
+</I>&gt;<i> claws-mail-fetchinfo-plugin
+</I>&gt;<i> claws-mail-mailmbox-plugin
+</I>&gt;<i> claws-mail-notification-plugin
+</I>&gt;<i> claws-mail-pdf_viewer-plugin
+</I>&gt;<i> claws-mail-perl-plugin
+</I>&gt;<i> claws-mail-python-plugin
+</I>&gt;<i> claws-mail-rssyl-plugin
+</I>&gt;<i> claws-mail-vcalendar-plugin
+</I>&gt;<i> claws-mail-gtkhtml2_viewer-plugin
+</I>&gt;<i> claws-mail-attachwarner-plugin
+</I>&gt;<i> claws-mail-spam_report-plugin
+</I>&gt;<i> claws-mail-tnef_parse-plugin
+</I>&gt;<i> claws-mail-address_keeper-plugin
+</I>&gt;<i> claws-mail-clamd-plugin
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> julien &lt;julien&gt; 1:3.9.0-3.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 337688
+</I>&gt;<i> - rename pdfviewer to pdf_viewer to be consistant with others plugins
+</I>&gt;<i> and mga2
+</I>
+You forgot to obsolete old pkg. However, it's fixed now.
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+Jani V&#228;limaa &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jani.valimaa at gmail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 20:31:52 +0100 (CET)
+</I>&gt;<i> julien &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i> You forgot to obsolete old pkg. However, it's fixed now.
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> Le Wed, 2 Jan 2013 21:55:17 +0200,
+</I>&gt;<i> Jani V&#228;limaa &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jani.valimaa at gmail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 20:31:52 +0100 (CET)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> julien &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (...)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You forgot to obsolete old pkg. However, it's fixed now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks :)
+</I>
+It was a good idea to do, since it had been named that way for a while, but not strictly necessary,
+since it's only a cauldron-&gt;cauldron issue.
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+&gt;<i> Does blacklisting the uas module and rebooting help?
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+Sorry for the long delay. Can this be tested without rebooting?
+The system in question is a &#171;production&#187; system.
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+ <B>Guillaume Rousse</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%0A%09perl-Color-Scheme-1.40.0-1.mga3&In-Reply-To=%3C50E55406.4010503%40gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>Le 03/01/2013 10:46, shlomif a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Name : perl-Color-Scheme Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version : 1.40.0 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release : 1.mga3 Build Date: Thu Jan 3 10:46:13 2013
+</I>&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: rabbit.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> Group : Development/Perl Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Size : 13067 License: GPL+ or Artistic
+</I>&gt;<i> Signature : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager : shlomif &lt;shlomif&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL : <A HREF="http://search.cpan.org/dist/Color-Scheme">http://search.cpan.org/dist/Color-Scheme</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary : Generate pleasant color schemes
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> This module is a Perl implementation of Color Schemes 2 (the
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://wellstyled.com/tools/colorscheme2/">http://wellstyled.com/tools/colorscheme2/</A> manpage), a color scheme
+</I>&gt;<i> generator. Start by visitng the Color Schemes 2 web site and playing with
+</I>&gt;<i> the colors. When you want to generate those schemes on the fly, begin using
+</I>&gt;<i> this modoule. The descriptions herein don't make too much sense without
+</I>&gt;<i> actually seeing the colorful results.
+</I>This would be enough as package description.
+
+&gt;<i> Henceforth, paragraphs in quotes denote documentation copied from Color
+</I>&gt;<i> Schemes 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Important note: This tool _doesn't use the standard HSV or HSB model_ (the
+</I>&gt;<i> same HSV/HSB values ie. in Photoshop describe different colors!). The color
+</I>&gt;<i> wheel used here differs from the RGB spectre used on computer screens, it's
+</I>&gt;<i> more in accordance with the classical color theory. This is also why some
+</I>&gt;<i> colors (especially shades of blue) make less bright shades than the basic
+</I>&gt;<i> colors of the RGB-model. In plus, the RGB-model uses red-green-blue as
+</I>&gt;<i> primary colors, but the red-yellow-blue combination is used here. This
+</I>&gt;<i> deformation also causes incompatibility in color conversions from
+</I>&gt;<i> RGB-values. Therefore, the RGB input (eg. the HTML hex values like #F854A9)
+</I>&gt;<i> is not exact, the conversion is rough and sometimes may produce slightly
+</I>&gt;<i> different color.&quot;
+</I>This is merely technical discussion, useless in this context.
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+appears to be a Slow/Narrow SCSI-0 Interface problem
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+As asked yesterday on -dev mailing-list, we have updated Mageia 3
+planning as last beta release was delayed. One week has been added to
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+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_3_development#Development_Planning">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_3_development#Development_Planning</A>
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+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A>
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+On 02/01/13 16:35, AL13N wrote:
+&gt;<i> Op woensdag 2 januari 2013 11:55:06 schreef Anne Wilson:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This last couple of days I've had frequent total freezes of my
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> M2 system. If I can get to the System Activity monitor in time I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> can kill akonadi_nepomuktag_resource and I can work again - if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm too late I have to hard reset.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There must be some way to stop this. It appears to use
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> increasing amounts of CPU (and memory?) until it reaches a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> critical level. What could have changed in the last few days to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be causing this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> you're symptoms look like OOM
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ie: out of memory
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> imho: nepomuk is a beast and uses too much memory.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Like many people, I don't see any advantage.
+
+&gt;<i> but perhaps your swap is not enabled?
+</I>
+As far as I know - how do I check? I really can't remember having to
+check for years.
+
+There seems to be some connection with Firefox. Clicking on an email
+link in Thunderbird brings up Firefox (against all my efforts to
+change it to Chrome) and at that point the fan starts screaming and
+the system starts to slow while nepomuk takes ever more CPU time.
+
+Anne
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+On 02/01/13 16:35, AL13N wrote:
+&gt;<i> you're symptoms look like OOM
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ie: out of memory
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>When all is quiet, this morning, Mem on this 32-bit system is
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+2898M - 1708M free. If I get chance to check it when things start to
+go wrong, before it gets critical, we'll see if it is being eaten into.
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+&gt;<i> imho: nepomuk is a beast and uses too much memory.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> but perhaps your swap is not enabled?
+</I>
+Apparently, at this moment,
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+500M - 81M free
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+which suggests that it is working normally.
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+Anne
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+<PRE>Le 03/01/2013 11:30, Anne Wilson a &#233;crit :
+&gt;&gt;<i> imho: nepomuk is a beast and uses too much memory.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Like many people, I don't see any advantage.
+</I>What prevents you from uninstalling it ?
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+On 03/01/13 10:35, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 03/01/2013 11:30, Anne Wilson a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> imho: nepomuk is a beast and uses too much memory.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Like many people, I don't see any advantage.
+</I>&gt;<i> What prevents you from uninstalling it ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>The fact that so much in KDE is tied to it. Again and again the
+developers tell us that we must not.
+
+Anne
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+-------- Message d'origine --------
+De : Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+A : Mageia development mailing-list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;
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+Le 03/01/2013 11:30, Anne Wilson a &#233;crit :
+&gt;&gt;<i> imho: nepomuk is a beast and uses too much memory.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Like many people, I don't see any advantage.
+</I>What prevents you from uninstalling it ?
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+ <B>Robert Wood</B>
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+<PRE>The first thing I do on a fresh install is uninstall it. It's a truly
+awful piece of software! That and the akandi thing just render the whole
+system unusable; no-one's ever managed to explain what it's for or how
+it might benefit me. I can't see the downside of it being uninstalled.
+
+On 03/01/13 10:41, Anne Wilson wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> On 03/01/13 10:35, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 03/01/2013 11:30, Anne Wilson a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> imho: nepomuk is a beast and uses too much memory.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Like many people, I don't see any advantage.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What prevents you from uninstalling it ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The fact that so much in KDE is tied to it. Again and again the
+</I>&gt;<i> developers tell us that we must not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
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+&gt;<i> On 02/01/13 16:35, AL13N wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; you're symptoms look like OOM
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ie: out of memory
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When all is quiet, this morning, Mem on this 32-bit system is
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2898M - 1708M free. If I get chance to check it when things start to
+</I>&gt;<i> go wrong, before it gets critical, we'll see if it is being eaten into.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; imho: nepomuk is a beast and uses too much memory.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but perhaps your swap is not enabled?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Apparently, at this moment,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 500M - 81M free
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> which suggests that it is working normally.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>
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+So, you're already swapping... and it looks like at some point your swap was
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 2 janvier 2013 12:55:06, Anne Wilson a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> This last couple of days I've had frequent total freezes of my M2
+</I>&gt;<i> system. If I can get to the System Activity monitor in time I can
+</I>&gt;<i> kill akonadi_nepomuktag_resource and I can work again - if I'm too
+</I>&gt;<i> late I have to hard reset.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There must be some way to stop this. It appears to use increasing
+</I>&gt;<i> amounts of CPU (and memory?) until it reaches a critical level. What
+</I>&gt;<i> could have changed in the last few days to be causing this?
+</I>
+I agree. Akonadi_nepomuk is a monster and is not suitable with an old PC or a
+laptop running on battery.
+It is a kind of &quot;enhancement&quot; which increases the complexity, make the system
+very difficult to understand and to repair in case of troubles. It gives a
+feeling of an unreliable complicated system.
+
+This must be an optional software, it can be installed but not activated by
+default.
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 3 janvier 2013 13:48:30 Pierre Jarillon a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le mercredi 2 janvier 2013 12:55:06, Anne Wilson a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This last couple of days I've had frequent total freezes of my M2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; system. If I can get to the System Activity monitor in time I can
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; kill akonadi_nepomuktag_resource and I can work again - if I'm too
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; late I have to hard reset.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; There must be some way to stop this. It appears to use increasing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; amounts of CPU (and memory?) until it reaches a critical level. What
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; could have changed in the last few days to be causing this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree. Akonadi_nepomuk is a monster and is not suitable with an old PC or
+</I>&gt;<i> a laptop running on battery.
+</I>&gt;<i> It is a kind of &quot;enhancement&quot; which increases the complexity, make the
+</I>&gt;<i> system very difficult to understand and to repair in case of troubles. It
+</I>&gt;<i> gives a feeling of an unreliable complicated system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This must be an optional software, it can be installed but not activated by
+</I>&gt;<i> default.
+</I>Which is already the case in mageia 2 for the live cd at least.
+However nepomuk is more &amp; more intricated in KDE so we'll probably won't be
+able to do it for mga4 for sure &amp; eventually mga3.
+The good news is that nepomuk received an hudge work (which is going to land
+with kde 4.10 rc2 ).
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+Regards,
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+--
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+<PRE>Op donderdag 3 januari 2013 10:48:07 schreef Robert Wood:
+&gt;<i> The first thing I do on a fresh install is uninstall it. It's a truly
+</I>&gt;<i> awful piece of software! That and the akandi thing just render the whole
+</I>&gt;<i> system unusable; no-one's ever managed to explain what it's for or how
+</I>&gt;<i> it might benefit me. I can't see the downside of it being uninstalled.
+</I>
+well, akonadi on it's own, while memory hungry, is not that bad; even though
+it can definately improve. but nepomuk (which is an indexer) definately indexes
+quite badly and takes more memory and the searches don't work well after
+all...
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+if i have a big file that's being rsynced into my home dir for instance, it
+constantly changes and then my system becomes unusable after some time.
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+i haven't quite uninstalled it, but disabled file indexing for now. hoping that
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+<PRE>Op donderdag 3 januari 2013 13:48:30 schreef Pierre Jarillon:
+&gt;<i> Le mercredi 2 janvier 2013 12:55:06, Anne Wilson a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This last couple of days I've had frequent total freezes of my M2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; system. If I can get to the System Activity monitor in time I can
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; kill akonadi_nepomuktag_resource and I can work again - if I'm too
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; late I have to hard reset.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; There must be some way to stop this. It appears to use increasing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; amounts of CPU (and memory?) until it reaches a critical level. What
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; could have changed in the last few days to be causing this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree. Akonadi_nepomuk is a monster and is not suitable with an old PC or
+</I>&gt;<i> a laptop running on battery.
+</I>&gt;<i> It is a kind of &quot;enhancement&quot; which increases the complexity, make the
+</I>&gt;<i> system very difficult to understand and to repair in case of troubles. It
+</I>&gt;<i> gives a feeling of an unreliable complicated system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This must be an optional software, it can be installed but not activated by
+</I>&gt;<i> default.
+</I>
+but if you don't install or activate it, searches become non-functional
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+Il 03/01/2013 11:41, Anne Wilson ha scritto:
+&gt;<i> On 03/01/13 10:35, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 03/01/2013 11:30, Anne Wilson a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> imho: nepomuk is a beast and uses too much memory.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Like many people, I don't see any advantage.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What prevents you from uninstalling it ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The fact that so much in KDE is tied to it. Again and again the
+</I>&gt;<i> developers tell us that we must not.
+</I>
+I've just disable it, and in some case changed the indexing
+area to my Documents and photos only. Since i use imap
+(and thunderbird now) i avoided indexing mails...
+
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+Angelo
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+&gt;<i> Which is already the case in mageia 2 for the live cd at least.
+</I>&gt;<i> However nepomuk is more &amp; more intricated in KDE so we'll probably
+</I>&gt;<i> won't be able to do it for mga4 for sure &amp; eventually mga3. The
+</I>&gt;<i> good news is that nepomuk received an hudge work (which is going to
+</I>&gt;<i> land with kde 4.10 rc2 ).
+</I>Maybe we could change the indexing directories to Documents instead of
+all the home...
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+If you want to index also download for instance you can do by yourself...
+
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+Also, Manuel pointed out a bugzilla search that will typically contain most of these.
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=comp:secu+-@qa-b">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=comp:secu+-@qa-b</A>
+
+......... updated initial message below ........
+
+There are several packages that need security updates that either have not been built yet, or there are some issues that need help and/or input from packagers.
+
+Please help out with these where you can.
+
+I'll try to organize these into categories and give a little info on them so it's easy to see if you can and want to help.
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+Web apps
+--------
+mediawiki [mga2] - versions we have are at or nearing EOL upstream, probably should be updated. Oliver Burger is working on this.
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3448">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3448</A>
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+glpi [mga2] - issue fixed in 0.83.3, no backported patch is available that I'm aware of
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6762">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6762</A>
+
+GNOME software
+--------------
+libvirt [mga2+cauldron] - patches available from RedHat
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6526">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6526</A>
+
+Games
+-----
+openarena, alienarena [mga2] - affected by DoS bug in quake3 engine.
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5496">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5496</A>
+
+Java-related
+------------
+tomcat5, tomcat6, tomcat [mga2,cauldron] - issues fixed upstream
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8307">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8307</A>
+
+jruby [mga2+cauldron] - one issue fixed upstream in 1.6.5.1, the other in 1.7.1
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6742">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6742</A>
+
+poi [mga2+cauldron] - jakarta-poi possibly needs patched
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6011">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6011</A>
+
+apache-commons-compress [mga2] - apache-commons-compress10 possibly needs patched
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6331">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6331</A>
+
+Ruby-related
+------------
+Several security issues, one possible packaging issue [mga2+cauldron]
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6487">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6487</A>
+
+No response has been received from packagers yet
+------------------------------------------------
+qt4 [mga2] - issue fixed upstream in 4.8.4
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7998">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7998</A>
+
+librdmacm [cauldron] - upstream patch linked in RedHat bug
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8415">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8415</A>
+
+squashfs-tools [mga2+cauldron] - patches for Cauldron available from Fedora, unsure about mga2
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8448">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8448</A>
+
+libreoffice [mga2] - patch available from Debian
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7949">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7949</A>
+
+chromium/v8 [mga2+cauldron] - need upgraded to newest versions
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6927">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6927</A>
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8567">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8567</A>
+
+In progress (help needed to finish)
+-----------------------------------
+kdelibs4 [mga2] - upstream patches linked in RedHat bugs, we have one of the four in SVN
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7999">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7999</A>
+
+xen [mga2+cauldron] - several outstanding security issues need additional patches applied
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6931">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6931</A>
+
+openafs [mga2] - pam_afs is missing from the current build in updates_testing
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7085">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7085</A>
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+<PRE>Glen Ogilvie skrev 3.1.2013 13:10:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
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+</I>&gt;<i> Has anyone got Mageia 2 or Mageia 3 beta running on Amazon EC2?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have been having a go, but not quite got there yet, so thought I'd ask
+</I>&gt;<i> if anyone has already done it?
+</I>
+There was someone on irc testing it and had some progress...
+I dont know if he finished his tests.
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+One thing... you need kernel-server-3.4.24-1 from 2/updates_testing
+to get it to boot (kernel image gz kompressed)
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+&gt;<i> If anyone is interested, there are updates checked into Mageia 1 SVN for perl,
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+On 03/01/13 17:38, David Walser wrote:
+&gt;<i> David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If anyone is interested, there are updates checked into Mageia 1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> SVN for perl,
+</I>&gt;<i> bind, libtiff, tor, and gimp.
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+</I>&gt;<i> Since updated in Mageia 1 SVN are: cups, webmin, freetype2, squid,
+</I>&gt;<i> elinks, bogofilter, flash-player-plugin, php-ZendFramework,
+</I>&gt;<i> python-django, fail2ban
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+</I>Thanks David
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+I have a relative who refuses to say farewell to Mageia 1
+Mga 1 was too good ;)
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+<PRE>installing libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586.rpm from
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+Preparing... #############################################
+Installation failed: file /usr/libexec/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor
+from install of libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from
+package lib64gvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.x86_64
+ file /usr/libexec/gvfsd from install of
+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
+lib64gvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.x86_64
+ file /usr/libexec/gvfsd-afp from install of
+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
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+ file /usr/libexec/gvfsd-afp-browse from install of
+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
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+ file /usr/libexec/gvfsd-burn from install of
+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
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+ file /usr/libexec/gvfsd-cdda from install of
+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
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+ file /usr/libexec/gvfsd-computer from install of
+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
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+ file /usr/libexec/gvfsd-dav from install of
+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
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+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
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+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
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+ file /usr/libexec/gvfsd-localtest from install of
+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
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+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
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+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
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+&gt;<i> juancho &lt;juancho&gt; 1.02-4.mga3:
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+&gt;<i> cjw &lt;cjw&gt; 2.1.2-2.mga3:
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+On 03/01/13 12:57, AL13N wrote:
+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 3 januari 2013 10:48:07 schreef Robert Wood:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The first thing I do on a fresh install is uninstall it. It's a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> truly awful piece of software! That and the akandi thing just
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> render the whole system unusable; no-one's ever managed to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> explain what it's for or how it might benefit me. I can't see the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> downside of it being uninstalled.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> well, akonadi on it's own, while memory hungry, is not that bad;
+</I>&gt;<i> even though it can definately improve. but nepomuk (which is an
+</I>&gt;<i> indexer) definately indexes quite badly and takes more memory and
+</I>&gt;<i> the searches don't work well after all...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> if i have a big file that's being rsynced into my home dir for
+</I>&gt;<i> instance, it constantly changes and then my system becomes unusable
+</I>&gt;<i> after some time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i haven't quite uninstalled it, but disabled file indexing for now.
+</I>&gt;<i> hoping that it becomes fixed later on...
+</I>
+It's been quiet all day today, so I'm guessing that something
+triggered a complete re-index. Annoying, but if I'd only realised
+that was the problem I could have stopped it earlier. I ran the
+initial indexing overnight, and I'd have done the same again.
+
+Anne
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+On 03/01/13 14:11, Angelo Naselli wrote:
+&gt;<i> Il 03/01/2013 11:41, Anne Wilson ha scritto:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 03/01/13 10:35, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 03/01/2013 11:30, Anne Wilson a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> imho: nepomuk is a beast and uses too much memory.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Like many people, I don't see any advantage.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What prevents you from uninstalling it ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The fact that so much in KDE is tied to it. Again and again the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> developers tell us that we must not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've just disable it, and in some case changed the indexing area
+</I>&gt;<i> to my Documents and photos only. Since i use imap (and thunderbird
+</I>&gt;<i> now) i avoided indexing mails...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>To be honest, I don't think that I've actually used the indexing -
+though of course it may have been used in the background for
+something. I appreciate the aim of the project, but I do wish it had
+been an optional extra :-)
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+On 03/01/13 12:43, AL13N wrote:
+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 3 januari 2013 10:34:26 schreef Anne Wilson:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 02/01/13 16:35, AL13N wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> you're symptoms look like OOM
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ie: out of memory
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> When all is quiet, this morning, Mem on this 32-bit system is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2898M - 1708M free. If I get chance to check it when things
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> start to go wrong, before it gets critical, we'll see if it is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> being eaten into.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> imho: nepomuk is a beast and uses too much memory.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but perhaps your swap is not enabled?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Apparently, at this moment,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 500M - 81M free
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> which suggests that it is working normally.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, you're already swapping... and it looks like at some point your
+</I>&gt;<i> swap was full as well...
+</I>
+Swap comes and goes. At the moment it says I have 199M free. Swap
+may have been full when nepomuk went wild, but normally it isn't a
+problem. If I'm not doing too many things at once (like using firefox
+and chrome each with many tabs :-) ) swap is usually lightly used and
+flexible.
+
+Anne
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+On 03/01/13 14:16, Angelo Naselli wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> Which is already the case in mageia 2 for the live cd at least.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> However nepomuk is more &amp; more intricated in KDE so we'll
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> probably won't be able to do it for mga4 for sure &amp; eventually
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mga3. The good news is that nepomuk received an hudge work (which
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is going to land with kde 4.10 rc2 ).
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe we could change the indexing directories to Documents instead
+</I>&gt;<i> of all the home...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you want to index also download for instance you can do by
+</I>&gt;<i> yourself...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>The ideal would be to be able to define the areas to be indexed, just
+as you do in a music player or a backup app.
+
+Anne
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+&gt;<i> David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If anyone is interested, there are updates checked into Mageia 1 SVN for
+</I>&gt;<i> perl, bind, libtiff, tor, and gimp.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Since updated in Mageia 1 SVN are:
+</I>&gt;<i> cups, webmin, freetype2, squid, elinks, bogofilter, flash-player-plugin,
+</I>&gt;<i> php-ZendFramework, python-django, fail2ban
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+<PRE>Anne Wilson a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> This last couple of days I've had frequent total freezes of my M2
+</I>&gt;<i> system. If I can get to the System Activity monitor in time I can
+</I>&gt;<i> kill akonadi_nepomuktag_resource and I can work again - if I'm too
+</I>&gt;<i> late I have to hard reset.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There must be some way to stop this. It appears to use increasing
+</I>&gt;<i> amounts of CPU (and memory?) until it reaches a critical level. What
+</I>&gt;<i> could have changed in the last few days to be causing this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I got the same problem very recently too... (a week ago)
+never got this before in spite of a daily use of Mageia2 since june 2012
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+I had to do some hard resets before understanding it was akonadi and
+nepomuk that caused this (wondering which update was faulty)
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+It's surprising because I have quite enough memory needed for hungry
+application (hugin and enblend to build huge panoramic photographies)
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+(4 Go) of physical memory
+1 Go for applications
+2 Go free
+1 Go of disk cache
+and 12 Go of free swap
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+When akonadi and nepomuk are used system gets frozen !!!
+I had to kill them and to inactivate the nepomuk service
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+Out of Memory would mean that they are both of them very hungry...
+(though there were not so much more things to index )
+Something getting wrong as time goes ?
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+</I>&gt;<i> installing libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586.rpm from
+</I>&gt;<i> /mnt/cauldron/i586/media/core/release
+</I>&gt;<i> Preparing... #############################################
+</I>&gt;<i> Installation failed: file /usr/libexec/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor
+</I>&gt;<i> from install of libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from
+</I>&gt;<i> package lib64gvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.x86_64
+</I>
+These sorts of things might happen now that we've moved %_libexec to /usr/libexec
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+Files that install into libexecdir should not be packaged in library packages.
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+Be on the lookout for this :o)
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+Also, while we're on the subject of gvfs, it needs updated to 1.15.0
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+&gt;<i> The ideal would be to be able to define the areas to be indexed,
+</I>&gt;<i> just as you do in a music player or a backup app.
+</I>It is, as far as i know. Open system settings, go to nepomuk-strigi
+settings and choose desktop query tab. You can see File indexing.
+There in the right part a link to &quot;Customize index folders...&quot;
+allows to choose which directories have to be indexed, iirc the whole
+home is selected by default.
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+Cheers,
+ Angelo
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+&gt;<i> Also, while we're on the subject of gvfs, it needs updated to 1.15.0
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+<PRE>fixed in cauldron ( currently on the BS )
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+De: &quot;Frank Griffin&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>&gt;
+&#192;: &quot;Mageia-dev&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Envoy&#233;: Jeudi 3 Janvier 2013 18:58:21
+Objet: [Mageia-dev] libgvfs0 586/64 conflicts
+
+installing libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586.rpm from
+/mnt/cauldron/i586/media/core/release
+Preparing... #############################################
+Installation failed: file /usr/libexec/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor
+from install of libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from
+package lib64gvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.x86_64
+ file /usr/libexec/gvfsd from install of
+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
+lib64gvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.x86_64
+ file /usr/libexec/gvfsd-afp from install of
+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
+lib64gvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.x86_64
+ file /usr/libexec/gvfsd-afp-browse from install of
+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
+lib64gvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.x86_64
+ file /usr/libexec/gvfsd-burn from install of
+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
+lib64gvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.x86_64
+ file /usr/libexec/gvfsd-cdda from install of
+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
+lib64gvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.x86_64
+ file /usr/libexec/gvfsd-computer from install of
+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
+lib64gvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.x86_64
+ file /usr/libexec/gvfsd-dav from install of
+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
+lib64gvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.x86_64
+ file /usr/libexec/gvfsd-dnssd from install of
+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
+lib64gvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.x86_64
+ file /usr/libexec/gvfsd-ftp from install of
+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
+lib64gvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.x86_64
+ file /usr/libexec/gvfsd-http from install of
+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
+lib64gvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.x86_64
+ file /usr/libexec/gvfsd-localtest from install of
+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
+lib64gvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.x86_64
+ file /usr/libexec/gvfsd-metadata from install of
+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
+lib64gvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.x86_64
+ file /usr/libexec/gvfsd-network from install of
+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
+lib64gvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.x86_64
+ file /usr/libexec/gvfsd-recent from install of
+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
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+ file /usr/libexec/gvfsd-sftp from install of
+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
+lib64gvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.x86_64
+ file /usr/libexec/gvfsd-trash from install of
+libgvfs0-1.14.2-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
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+ <B>AL13N</B>
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+<PRE>I still had my mediabox on mdv2010.
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+so, it was time to move on.
+
+my server was now mga2, and it's nfsroot is just a directory on the server, so
+this should be easy
+
+I make an extra directory, do the old chrooted install:
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+[ ]# urpmi.addmedia --urpmi-root /chroot/mga2 --distrib
+<A HREF="http://127.0.0.1/mageia/distrib/2/x86_64">http://127.0.0.1/mageia/distrib/2/x86_64</A>
+[ ]# urpmi --no-suggests --urpmi-root /chroot/mga2 basesystem-minimal locales-
+en locales-nl urpmi
+
+- since the server is mga2 too, i thought that i'd be funny and copy the
+kernel from my server.
+- alas the initrd doesn't have nfs, so i'm doing the dracut into a different
+file, but there i get some strange stuff when the nfs module starts.
+- i was hoping to find next to the vmlinuz on the mirrors also an initrd, but
+no, only the installer image all.rdz
+
+after quite some debugging and rddebug and stuff, i see that my usb keyboard
+isn't loaded, so i can't debug really well, but i do see that the nfs stuff
+fails
+
+(i also note the message &quot;rpc.imapd: group 'nogroup' doesn't exist&quot;)
+
+ok, this marks the end of mga2, i officially give up.
+
+
+
+trying mga3...
+
+i do the same chroot install for mga3
+
+this time, i also install the kernel
+
+[ ]# urpmi.addmedia --urpmi-root /chroot/mga3 --distrib
+<A HREF="http://127.0.0.1/mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64">http://127.0.0.1/mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64</A>
+[ ]# urpmi --no-suggests --urpmi-root /chroot/mga3 basesystem-minimal locales-
+en locales-nl urpmi
+[ ]# urpmi --no-suggests --urpmi-root /chroot/mga3 kernel-desktop-latest
+
+dracut is pulled in and runs a generic image... except network is omitted
+
+i change the dracut.conf.d/50* file so that network isn't omitted
+
+i chroot and retry dracut
+
+i notice dhclient isn't there and nfs drivers are still being omitted, i
+cancel it
+
+i install dhclient and change the dracut conf so that the nfs omitted drivers
+are added anyway
+
+[ ]# urpmi --no-suggests --urpmi-root /chroot/mga3 dhcp-client
+
+but when retrying dracut i see that it never gets past a certain stage...
+
+i'm quite puzzle by this, why does it hang in a chroot? and why isn't urpmi
+having any issues when using --urpmi-root ?
+
+i decide to force install the kernel itself and so trigger the dracut, but
+apparently i had to move away the initrd for it to be triggered.
+
+[ ]# urpmi --no-suggests --urpmi-root /chroot/mga3 kernel-desktop-3.7.1
+
+now i can finally copy the initrd and vmlinuz and it actually seems to work
+from the first time... (i didn't quite expect this, after what i've gone
+through with mga2).
+
+of course, since this is quite minimal, there is no gfxboot and quiet is set,
+so you see absolutely nothing (except the rpc.idmapd warning i got with mga2),
+until you can log in.
+
+i note that dhcp didn't quite work, or might have had some timeout in systemd
+somewhere, but i had set ip=... parameters the first time so i didn't see it
+then. i'll have to see with more debugging.
+
+next steps are:
+ - install a splash/booting graphic (gfxboot/plymouth?)
+ - install a dm (kdm)
+ - set a root password
+ - try to do some autoconfiguring that happens during install (i forgot, but i
+think a tool somewhere exists in drakxtools) (that should set the keyboard to
+azerty too)
+ - install plasma-applet-launchbutton
+ - configure autologin
+ - fix the look to what i want and set up multiple launchbuttons which do the
+purposes and install the programs
+ - fix to have dvds autoplay
+ - use the nfsmounts which have all my media
+
+... to be continued
+
+
+my biggest issues are:
+1) it would be very useful for this to have a really generic inird(without an
+installer) to start from on the mirrors (in isolinux/alt0/ maybe?)
+2) how the hell does urpmi with --urpmi-root handle dracut? why does it work
+like that and not chrooted?
+3) why are all these nfs drivers omitted, even though i can see nothing about
+this in the config files and directories?
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+ <B>Angelo Naselli</B>
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+Il 03/01/2013 20:37, Anne Wilson ha scritto:
+&gt;<i> To be honest, I don't think that I've actually used the indexing -
+</I>&gt;<i> though of course it may have been used in the background for
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+eh eh eh, if you haven't disabled it you did :D
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+I'm having a strange problem with warsow's package. To fix bug #8103 I need
+to symlink the game data contents from warsow-data into the same directory
+were the game libraries are located. The problem is that when I build the
+package in my local cauldron installation, the symlinks are correctly
+created, but when it's built by the BS they end up broken. I have tried two
+ways to create the symlinks, both work fine on my machine but not on the BS:
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+ln -sf %{_datadir}/%{name}/basewsw/* %{buildroot}%{gamelibdir}/basewsw
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+or:
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+for i in %{_datadir}/%{name}/basewsw/*;
+do
+ file=`basename $i`
+ ln -sf $i %{buildroot}%{gamelibdir}/basewsw/$file
+done
+
+With any of those two ways in my machine the symlinks are correctly created:
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at cauldron-laptop</A> cauldron]# ll /usr/lib64/games/warsow/basewsw/
+total 28
+lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 47 Jan 3 16:42 configs -&gt;
+../../../../../usr/share/warsow/basewsw/configs/
+lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 52 Jan 3 16:42 data0_10.pk3 -&gt;
+../../../../../usr/share/warsow/basewsw/data0_10.pk3
+lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 56 Jan 3 16:42 data0_10pure.pk3 -&gt;
+../../../../../usr/share/warsow/basewsw/data0_10pure.pk3
+lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 52 Jan 3 16:42 data1_10.pk3 -&gt;
+../../../../../usr/share/warsow/basewsw/data1_10.pk3
+[...]
+
+But on the BS this is the result:
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at localhost</A> juancho]# ls -l /usr/lib64/games/warsow/basewsw/
+total 0
+lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 41 Jan 3 11:13 * -&gt;
+../../../../../usr/share/warsow/basewsw/*
+
+A broken link to '*'. What can be causing this ?
+
+Thanks.
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+&gt;<i> On 2 January 2013 16:44, cjw &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cjw &lt;cjw&gt; 2.1.2-2.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 337625
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + rebuild (emptylog)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why the empty changelog?
+</I>
+I thought there was a commit pending in svn which would be
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+&gt;<i> ln -sf %{_datadir}/%{name}/basewsw/* &#160;%{buildroot}%{gamelibdir}/basewsw
+</I>
+That creates absolute symlinks rather than relative ones.
+You shouldn't do absolute ones.
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+&gt;<i> for i in %{_datadir}/%{name}/basewsw/*;
+</I>&gt;<i> do
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; file=`basename $i`
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; ln -sf $i &#160;%{buildroot}%{gamelibdir}/basewsw/$file
+</I>&gt;<i> done
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+Looks better, that should make relative links.
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+The problem is in the first line, the %{_datadir}/%{name}/basewsw/*
+should have a %{buildroot} at the beginning of it. Otherwise, it's matching
+against files on your actual system already installed at that location,
+which of course won't be there on the build system. That's why the * doesn't
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+David Walser wrote:
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+&gt;<i> &gt; ln -sf %{_datadir}/%{name}/basewsw/*
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;%{buildroot}%{gamelibdir}/basewsw
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That creates absolute symlinks rather than relative ones.
+</I>&gt;<i> You shouldn't do absolute ones.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for i in %{_datadir}/%{name}/basewsw/*;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; do
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; file=`basename $i`
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; ln -sf $i &#160;%{buildroot}%{gamelibdir}/basewsw/$file
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; done
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Looks better, that should make relative links.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The problem is in the first line, the %{_datadir}/%{name}/basewsw/*
+</I>&gt;<i> should have a %{buildroot} at the beginning of it. Otherwise, it's
+</I>&gt;<i> matching against files on your actual system already installed at
+</I>&gt;<i> that location, which of course won't be there on the build system.
+</I>&gt;<i> That's why the * doesn't match anything, and becomes a literal *.
+</I>
+Why not have it created in post by the warsow-data rpm?
+
+%post
+ln -sf %{_datadir}/warsow/basewsw/* %{gamelibdir}/basewsw
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+%postun
+rm -rf %{gamelibdir}/basewsw
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+ Charles
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+<PRE>On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 5:23 PM, David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for i in %{_datadir}/%{name}/basewsw/*;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; do
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; file=`basename $i`
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; done
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Looks better, that should make relative links.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The problem is in the first line, the %{_datadir}/%{name}/basewsw/*
+</I>&gt;<i> should have a %{buildroot} at the beginning of it. Otherwise, it's
+</I>&gt;<i> matching
+</I>&gt;<i> against files on your actual system already installed at that location,
+</I>&gt;<i> which of course won't be there on the build system. That's why the *
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't
+</I>&gt;<i> match anything, and becomes a literal *.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I had tried that before, but on that case, on my local build the symlinks
+are created like this:
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+ll /usr/lib64/games/warsow/basewsw/
+total 4
+lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 114 Jan 3 18:01 * -&gt;
+../../../../../home/cauldron/mageia/cauldron/warsow/BUILDROOT/warsow-1.02-5.mga3.x86_64/usr/share/warsow/basewsw/*
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+<PRE>On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Charles A Edwards &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">CAE at eslrahc.com</A>&gt; wrote:.
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why not have it created in post by the warsow-data rpm?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> %post
+</I>&gt;<i> ln -sf %{_datadir}/warsow/basewsw/* %{gamelibdir}/basewsw
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> %postun
+</I>&gt;<i> rm -rf %{gamelibdir}/basewsw
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Good idea, going to try this.
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+ <B>Pierre Jarillon</B>
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 3 janvier 2013 22:56:12, Angelo Naselli a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Il 03/01/2013 20:37, Anne Wilson ha scritto:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; To be honest, I don't think that I've actually used the indexing -
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; though of course it may have been used in the background for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; something.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> eh eh eh, if you haven't disabled it you did :D
+</I>
+How to disable it?
+How a standard user can know the name of the service ?
+It is hidden in the kde center manager.
+I never use it. I don't need it. I dare to say that!
+
+If an advanced user wants nepomuk, he knows that it exists and then
+he is able to activate it.
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+Nepomuk is a gas-works. Too much complicated. Too much difficult to repair.
+Unsuitable with laptops and old machines. It must not be activated by default.
+
+--
+Pierre Jarillon - <A HREF="http://pjarillon.free.fr/">http://pjarillon.free.fr/</A>
+Vice-pr&#233;sident de l'ABUL : <A HREF="http://abul.org">http://abul.org</A>
+Microsoft est &#224; l'informatique ce que McDonald est &#224; la gastronomie
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+<PRE>the new gnutls version has minor security fixes, so I wanted to get it built, but it fails one of the tests in make check. If anyone can help, thanks in advance. Here's the log:
+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130103024252.luigiwalser.valstar.16575/log/gnutls-3.1.6-1.mga3/build.0.20130103024310.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130103024252.luigiwalser.valstar.16575/log/gnutls-3.1.6-1.mga3/build.0.20130103024310.log</A>
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+<PRE>On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:06 AM, luigiwalser
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Name : file Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version : 5.12 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release : 1.mga3 Build Date: Fri Jan 4 02:05:27 2013
+</I>&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: jonund.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> Group : File tools Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Size : 644814 License: BSD
+</I>&gt;<i> Signature : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager : luigiwalser &lt;luigiwalser&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL : <A HREF="http://www.darwinsys.com/file/">http://www.darwinsys.com/file/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary : A utility for determining file types
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> The file command is used to identify a particular file according to the
+</I>&gt;<i> type of data contained by the file. File can identify many different
+</I>&gt;<i> file types, including ELF binaries, system libraries, RPM packages, and
+</I>&gt;<i> different graphics formats.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You should install the file package, since the file command is such a
+</I>&gt;<i> useful utility.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> luigiwalser &lt;luigiwalser&gt; 5.12-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 338488
+</I>&gt;<i> - 5.12
+</I>&gt;<i> - rediff patch 8
+</I>&gt;<i> - remove upstreamed patches
+</I>&gt;<i> - fix format string error in softmagic.c
+</I>
+file now segfaults during many of the builds (called by
+/usr/lib/rpm/find-debuginfo.sh)
+
+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/results.php?run=2013-01-04">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/results.php?run=2013-01-04</A>
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+<PRE>On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:06 AM, luigiwalser
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Name : file Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Version : 5.12 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Release : 1.mga3 Build Date: Fri Jan 4 02:05:27 2013
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: jonund.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Group : File tools Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Size : 644814 License: BSD
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Signature : (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Packager : luigiwalser &lt;luigiwalser&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> URL : <A HREF="http://www.darwinsys.com/file/">http://www.darwinsys.com/file/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Summary : A utility for determining file types
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The file command is used to identify a particular file according to the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> type of data contained by the file. File can identify many different
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> file types, including ELF binaries, system libraries, RPM packages, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> different graphics formats.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You should install the file package, since the file command is such a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> useful utility.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> luigiwalser &lt;luigiwalser&gt; 5.12-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 338488
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - 5.12
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - rediff patch 8
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - remove upstreamed patches
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - fix format string error in softmagic.c
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> file now segfaults during many of the builds (called by
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/lib/rpm/find-debuginfo.sh)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/results.php?run=2013-01-04">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/results.php?run=2013-01-04</A>
+</I>
+Actually it segfaults on all packages which are not noarch, where it gets called
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+<PRE>On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:06 AM, luigiwalser
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Name : file Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Version : 5.12 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Release : 1.mga3 Build Date: Fri Jan 4 02:05:27 2013
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: jonund.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Group : File tools Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Size : 644814 License: BSD
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Signature : (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Packager : luigiwalser &lt;luigiwalser&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> URL : <A HREF="http://www.darwinsys.com/file/">http://www.darwinsys.com/file/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Summary : A utility for determining file types
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The file command is used to identify a particular file according to the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> type of data contained by the file. File can identify many different
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> file types, including ELF binaries, system libraries, RPM packages, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> different graphics formats.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> You should install the file package, since the file command is such a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> useful utility.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> luigiwalser &lt;luigiwalser&gt; 5.12-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 338488
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - 5.12
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - rediff patch 8
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - remove upstreamed patches
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - fix format string error in softmagic.c
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> file now segfaults during many of the builds (called by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/lib/rpm/find-debuginfo.sh)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/results.php?run=2013-01-04">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/results.php?run=2013-01-04</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually it segfaults on all packages which are not noarch, where it gets called
+</I>
+#0 0x00007ffff785a0d6 in vfprintf () from /lib64/libc.so.6
+#1 0x00007ffff7916231 in __vasprintf_chk () from /lib64/libc.so.6
+#2 0x00007ffff7916162 in __asprintf_chk () from /lib64/libc.so.6
+#3 0x00007ffff7bd2979 in asprintf (__fmt=0x7ffff7bd9de8 &quot;%s%s&quot;,
+__ptr=0x7fffffffdb08) at /usr/include/bits/stdio2.h:178
+#4 file_vprintf (ms=0x7ffff7bd8ca5, fmt=&lt;optimized out&gt;,
+ap=&lt;optimized out&gt;) at funcs.c:66
+#5 0x00007ffff7bd2a57 in file_printf (ms=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ms at entry</A>=0x7ffff7bd8ca5,
+fmt=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fmt at entry</A>=0x605010 &quot;\360Q`&quot;) at funcs.c:87
+#6 0x00007ffff7bcbfbd in mget (ms=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ms at entry</A>=0x605010,
+s=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">s at entry</A>=0x7ffff7f89010 &quot;\177ELF\002\001\001&quot;,
+m=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">m at entry</A>=0x7ffff75e2360, nbytes=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nbytes at entry</A>=149507, o=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">o at entry</A>=0,
+ cont_level=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cont_level at entry</A>=0, mode=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mode at entry</A>=32,
+text=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">text at entry</A>=0, flip=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">flip at entry</A>=0) at softmagic.c:1718
+#7 0x00007ffff7bcd29b in match (ms=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ms at entry</A>=0x605010,
+magic=0x7ffff75e2360, nmagic=151, s=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">s at entry</A>=0x7ffff7f89010
+&quot;\177ELF\002\001\001&quot;, nbytes=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nbytes at entry</A>=149507,
+ offset=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">offset at entry</A>=0, mode=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mode at entry</A>=32, text=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">text at entry</A>=0,
+flip=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">flip at entry</A>=0) at softmagic.c:146
+#8 0x00007ffff7bcbf99 in mget (ms=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ms at entry</A>=0x605010,
+s=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">s at entry</A>=0x7ffff7f89010 &quot;\177ELF\002\001\001&quot;,
+m=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">m at entry</A>=0x7ffff74bb828, nbytes=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nbytes at entry</A>=149507, o=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">o at entry</A>=0,
+ cont_level=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cont_level at entry</A>=2, mode=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mode at entry</A>=32,
+text=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">text at entry</A>=0, flip=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">flip at entry</A>=0) at softmagic.c:1714
+#9 0x00007ffff7bcd429 in match (ms=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ms at entry</A>=0x605010,
+magic=0x7ffff73b60e8, nmagic=9819, s=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">s at entry</A>=0x7ffff7f89010
+&quot;\177ELF\002\001\001&quot;, nbytes=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nbytes at entry</A>=149507,
+ offset=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">offset at entry</A>=0, mode=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mode at entry</A>=32, text=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">text at entry</A>=0,
+flip=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">flip at entry</A>=0) at softmagic.c:231
+#10 0x00007ffff7bcbc52 in file_softmagic (ms=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ms at entry</A>=0x605010,
+buf=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buf at entry</A>=0x7ffff7f89010 &quot;\177ELF\002\001\001&quot;,
+nbytes=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nbytes at entry</A>=149507, mode=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mode at entry</A>=32,
+ text=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">text at entry</A>=0) at softmagic.c:75
+#11 0x00007ffff7bd2dcd in file_buffer (ms=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ms at entry</A>=0x605010, fd=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fd at entry</A>=7,
+ inname=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">inname at entry</A>=0x7fffffffe4fa
+&quot;/home/pterjan/co/cauldron/arpwatch/BUILDROOT/arpwatch-2.1a15-10.mga3.x86_64/usr/sbin/arpwatch&quot;,
+buf=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buf at entry</A>=0x7ffff7f89010,
+ nb=149507) at funcs.c:231
+#12 0x00007ffff7bc594f in file_or_fd (ms=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ms at entry</A>=0x605010,
+ inname=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">inname at entry</A>=0x7fffffffe4fa
+&quot;/home/pterjan/co/cauldron/arpwatch/BUILDROOT/arpwatch-2.1a15-10.mga3.x86_64/usr/sbin/arpwatch&quot;,
+fd=7, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fd at entry</A>=0) at magic.c:424
+#13 0x00007ffff7bc5cac in magic_file (ms=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ms at entry</A>=0x605010,
+ inname=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">inname at entry</A>=0x7fffffffe4fa
+&quot;/home/pterjan/co/cauldron/arpwatch/BUILDROOT/arpwatch-2.1a15-10.mga3.x86_64/usr/sbin/arpwatch&quot;)
+at magic.c:335
+#14 0x0000000000402098 in process (ms=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ms at entry</A>=0x605010,
+inname=&lt;optimized out&gt;, wid=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">wid at entry</A>=93) at file.c:430
+#15 0x0000000000401ab1 in main (argc=3, argv=0x7fffffffe228) at file.c:338
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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%0A%09file-5.12-1.mga3&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2BCX%2BbhJ%2BEym2VTg%3DZUvahWsWH4c9gCacW%3DcrT0vK-JWvU%3DhHw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:08 AM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:06 AM, luigiwalser
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Name : file Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Version : 5.12 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Release : 1.mga3 Build Date: Fri Jan 4 02:05:27 2013
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: jonund.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Group : File tools Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Size : 644814 License: BSD
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Signature : (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Packager : luigiwalser &lt;luigiwalser&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> URL : <A HREF="http://www.darwinsys.com/file/">http://www.darwinsys.com/file/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Summary : A utility for determining file types
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The file command is used to identify a particular file according to the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> type of data contained by the file. File can identify many different
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> file types, including ELF binaries, system libraries, RPM packages, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> different graphics formats.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> You should install the file package, since the file command is such a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> useful utility.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> luigiwalser &lt;luigiwalser&gt; 5.12-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 338488
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - 5.12
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - rediff patch 8
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - remove upstreamed patches
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - fix format string error in softmagic.c
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> file now segfaults during many of the builds (called by
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/lib/rpm/find-debuginfo.sh)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/results.php?run=2013-01-04">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/results.php?run=2013-01-04</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Actually it segfaults on all packages which are not noarch, where it gets called
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> #0 0x00007ffff785a0d6 in vfprintf () from /lib64/libc.so.6
+</I>&gt;<i> #1 0x00007ffff7916231 in __vasprintf_chk () from /lib64/libc.so.6
+</I>&gt;<i> #2 0x00007ffff7916162 in __asprintf_chk () from /lib64/libc.so.6
+</I>&gt;<i> #3 0x00007ffff7bd2979 in asprintf (__fmt=0x7ffff7bd9de8 &quot;%s%s&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> __ptr=0x7fffffffdb08) at /usr/include/bits/stdio2.h:178
+</I>&gt;<i> #4 file_vprintf (ms=0x7ffff7bd8ca5, fmt=&lt;optimized out&gt;,
+</I>&gt;<i> ap=&lt;optimized out&gt;) at funcs.c:66
+</I>&gt;<i> #5 0x00007ffff7bd2a57 in file_printf (ms=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ms at entry</A>=0x7ffff7bd8ca5,
+</I>&gt;<i> fmt=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fmt at entry</A>=0x605010 &quot;\360Q`&quot;) at funcs.c:87
+</I>&gt;<i> #6 0x00007ffff7bcbfbd in mget (ms=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ms at entry</A>=0x605010,
+</I>&gt;<i> s=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">s at entry</A>=0x7ffff7f89010 &quot;\177ELF\002\001\001&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> m=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">m at entry</A>=0x7ffff75e2360, nbytes=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nbytes at entry</A>=149507, o=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">o at entry</A>=0,
+</I>&gt;<i> cont_level=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cont_level at entry</A>=0, mode=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mode at entry</A>=32,
+</I>&gt;<i> text=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">text at entry</A>=0, flip=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">flip at entry</A>=0) at softmagic.c:1718
+</I>&gt;<i> #7 0x00007ffff7bcd29b in match (ms=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ms at entry</A>=0x605010,
+</I>&gt;<i> magic=0x7ffff75e2360, nmagic=151, s=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">s at entry</A>=0x7ffff7f89010
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;\177ELF\002\001\001&quot;, nbytes=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nbytes at entry</A>=149507,
+</I>&gt;<i> offset=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">offset at entry</A>=0, mode=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mode at entry</A>=32, text=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">text at entry</A>=0,
+</I>&gt;<i> flip=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">flip at entry</A>=0) at softmagic.c:146
+</I>&gt;<i> #8 0x00007ffff7bcbf99 in mget (ms=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ms at entry</A>=0x605010,
+</I>&gt;<i> s=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">s at entry</A>=0x7ffff7f89010 &quot;\177ELF\002\001\001&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> m=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">m at entry</A>=0x7ffff74bb828, nbytes=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nbytes at entry</A>=149507, o=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">o at entry</A>=0,
+</I>&gt;<i> cont_level=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cont_level at entry</A>=2, mode=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mode at entry</A>=32,
+</I>&gt;<i> text=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">text at entry</A>=0, flip=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">flip at entry</A>=0) at softmagic.c:1714
+</I>&gt;<i> #9 0x00007ffff7bcd429 in match (ms=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ms at entry</A>=0x605010,
+</I>&gt;<i> magic=0x7ffff73b60e8, nmagic=9819, s=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">s at entry</A>=0x7ffff7f89010
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;\177ELF\002\001\001&quot;, nbytes=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nbytes at entry</A>=149507,
+</I>&gt;<i> offset=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">offset at entry</A>=0, mode=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mode at entry</A>=32, text=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">text at entry</A>=0,
+</I>&gt;<i> flip=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">flip at entry</A>=0) at softmagic.c:231
+</I>&gt;<i> #10 0x00007ffff7bcbc52 in file_softmagic (ms=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ms at entry</A>=0x605010,
+</I>&gt;<i> buf=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buf at entry</A>=0x7ffff7f89010 &quot;\177ELF\002\001\001&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> nbytes=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nbytes at entry</A>=149507, mode=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mode at entry</A>=32,
+</I>&gt;<i> text=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">text at entry</A>=0) at softmagic.c:75
+</I>&gt;<i> #11 0x00007ffff7bd2dcd in file_buffer (ms=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ms at entry</A>=0x605010, fd=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fd at entry</A>=7,
+</I>&gt;<i> inname=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">inname at entry</A>=0x7fffffffe4fa
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;/home/pterjan/co/cauldron/arpwatch/BUILDROOT/arpwatch-2.1a15-10.mga3.x86_64/usr/sbin/arpwatch&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> buf=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buf at entry</A>=0x7ffff7f89010,
+</I>&gt;<i> nb=149507) at funcs.c:231
+</I>&gt;<i> #12 0x00007ffff7bc594f in file_or_fd (ms=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ms at entry</A>=0x605010,
+</I>&gt;<i> inname=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">inname at entry</A>=0x7fffffffe4fa
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;/home/pterjan/co/cauldron/arpwatch/BUILDROOT/arpwatch-2.1a15-10.mga3.x86_64/usr/sbin/arpwatch&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> fd=7, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fd at entry</A>=0) at magic.c:424
+</I>&gt;<i> #13 0x00007ffff7bc5cac in magic_file (ms=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ms at entry</A>=0x605010,
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+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;/home/pterjan/co/cauldron/arpwatch/BUILDROOT/arpwatch-2.1a15-10.mga3.x86_64/usr/sbin/arpwatch&quot;)
+</I>&gt;<i> at magic.c:335
+</I>&gt;<i> #14 0x0000000000402098 in process (ms=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ms at entry</A>=0x605010,
+</I>&gt;<i> inname=&lt;optimized out&gt;, wid=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">wid at entry</A>=93) at file.c:430
+</I>&gt;<i> #15 0x0000000000401ab1 in main (argc=3, argv=0x7fffffffe228) at file.c:338
+</I>
+I'm restoring old file package as this breaks normal uploads too.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Charles A Edwards &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">CAE at eslrahc.com</A>&gt;wrote:.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why not have it created in post by the warsow-data rpm?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %post
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ln -sf %{_datadir}/warsow/basewsw/* %{gamelibdir}/basewsw
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %postun
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rm -rf %{gamelibdir}/basewsw
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Good idea, going to try this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Nope it didn't work either, with Charle's suggestion I get this error:
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+ln: target &#8216;/usr/lib64/games/warsow/basewsw/&#8217; is not a directory: No such
+file or directory
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+Which I don't understand why it says no such file or directory if that's
+the link I want to create. And /usr/lib64/games/warsow exists. I also tried
+the for loop option with no success either:
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+for i in `%{_datadir}/%{name}/basewsw/*`;
+do
+ file=`basename $i`
+ ln -sf $i %{gamelibdir}/basewsw/$file
+done
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+/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.HdlyUk: line 7: /usr/share/warsow-data/basewsw/*: No such
+file or directory
+
+It seems as if the expression `%{_datadir}/%{name}/basewsw/*` (don't mind
+the left quotes, it happens the same with them or not) of the for loop
+wasn't being expanded and $i ends with the literal value '*'.
+
+Any other suggestions ?
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> file now segfaults during many of the builds (called by
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/lib/rpm/find-debuginfo.sh)
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/results.php?run=2013-01-04">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/results.php?run=2013-01-04</A>
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Actually it segfaults on all packages which are not noarch, where it gets called
+</I>
+Yes, sorry about that. It was an error in the format string patch (arguments reversed).
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+I've already posted this to the Mageia forum, but doktor5000 suggested to
+also post this to the mailing list.
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+I'd like to ask if it would make sense for Mageia to automatically test
+generated RPM packages. The idea isn't new. Ubuntu is using regression
+tests with python-unit for a lot of packages in their distribution:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/devweek0909/RegressionTests">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/devweek0909/RegressionTests</A>
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+I think that using automated regession tests would make the job of QA a lot
+easier. Failures within packages would surface much faster and a lot of
+manual checking could be avoided. Don't get me wrong. Every package that
+would pass the regression tests should still be checked by a human. ;)
+
+The following scenario could be used for this. After the package hast been
+generated, the RPM (or job) is passed to the regession test server. This
+server spawns a new virtual machine with the Mageia version the package
+should be checked on. When the machine is booted, the package is installed
+with all the needed dependencies and the tests are executed. If everyting
+went smooth, the package might be checked again by QA manually. If one or
+more tests failed, there is something wrong with package, although the
+package generation worked, and the maintainer/developer might want to take
+a look at it again.
+
+To setup this up a combination of hudson (hudson-ci.org) and vagrant (
+vagrantup.com) could be used. vagrant allows to use VirtualBox to boot
+serveral VM instances from base images that are thrown away after
+everything is done. This way multiple versions of Mageia could be tested on
+one well equipped server. One drawback with VirtualBox would be the missing
+ARM support.
+
+Let's use something like a JSON lib for Python as an example. The package
+generation was successful. But Python is a highly dynamic language, so some
+submodule is missing due to a wrong install path, although &quot;import json-xy&quot;
+of the main module works flawlessly. Without further testing this will only
+surface when a poor developer uses the submodule or when a second package
+that depends on that submodule is tested by QA and shows errors or
+misbehaviours.
+Second example, same lib. The JSON lib usually ships with a handy
+executable to lint check JSON files, but upstream decided to change that.
+Due to an error in the upstream repo, the executable script file is still
+there but it's empty or there is gibberish in it. There is no more lint
+checking possible with this executable. Automatic testing would show this
+very fast and without someone sitting there, pasting some JSON into a file
+to feed the executable with it.
+
+Testing UI would be an other story, but I guess you get the idea. ;-)
+
+That do you think about that? I think it would enhance the quality on
+Mageia in the long run and take some work from QA to find the really tricky
+bugs.
+
+Regards,
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+<PRE>Le 04/01/2013 09:11, Jochen Breuer a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've already posted this to the Mageia forum, but doktor5000 suggested
+</I>&gt;<i> to also post this to the mailing list.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd like to ask if it would make sense for Mageia to automatically test
+</I>&gt;<i> generated RPM packages. The idea isn't new. Ubuntu is using regression
+</I>&gt;<i> tests with python-unit for a lot of packages in their distribution:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/devweek0909/RegressionTests">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/devweek0909/RegressionTests</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think that using automated regession tests would make the job of QA a
+</I>&gt;<i> lot easier. Failures within packages would surface much faster and a lot
+</I>&gt;<i> of manual checking could be avoided. Don't get me wrong. Every package
+</I>&gt;<i> that would pass the regression tests should still be checked by a human. ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The following scenario could be used for this. After the package hast
+</I>&gt;<i> been generated, the RPM (or job) is passed to the regession test server.
+</I>&gt;<i> This server spawns a new virtual machine with the Mageia version the
+</I>&gt;<i> package should be checked on. When the machine is booted, the package is
+</I>&gt;<i> installed with all the needed dependencies and the tests are executed.
+</I>&gt;<i> If everyting went smooth, the package might be checked again by QA
+</I>&gt;<i> manually. If one or more tests failed, there is something wrong with
+</I>&gt;<i> package, although the package generation worked, and the
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainer/developer might want to take a look at it again.
+</I>We already run existing tests suite during package build... Running them
+again on a different host would just change the execution environment to
+use runtime dependencies instead of build time dependencies. I don't
+know if the potential results are worth the additional infrastructure
+needed.
+
+&gt;<i> To setup this up a combination of hudson (hudson-ci.org
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="http://hudson-ci.org">http://hudson-ci.org</A>&gt;) and vagrant (vagrantup.com
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="http://vagrantup.com">http://vagrantup.com</A>&gt;) could be used. vagrant allows to use VirtualBox
+</I>&gt;<i> to boot serveral VM instances from base images that are thrown away
+</I>&gt;<i> after everything is done. This way multiple versions of Mageia could be
+</I>&gt;<i> tested on one well equipped server. One drawback with VirtualBox would
+</I>&gt;<i> be the missing ARM support.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Let's use something like a JSON lib for Python as an example. The
+</I>&gt;<i> package generation was successful. But Python is a highly dynamic
+</I>&gt;<i> language, so some submodule is missing due to a wrong install path,
+</I>&gt;<i> although &quot;import json-xy&quot; of the main module works flawlessly. Without
+</I>&gt;<i> further testing this will only surface when a poor developer uses the
+</I>&gt;<i> submodule or when a second package that depends on that submodule is
+</I>&gt;<i> tested by QA and shows errors or misbehaviours.
+</I>&gt;<i> Second example, same lib. The JSON lib usually ships with a handy
+</I>&gt;<i> executable to lint check JSON files, but upstream decided to change
+</I>&gt;<i> that. Due to an error in the upstream repo, the executable script file
+</I>&gt;<i> is still there but it's empty or there is gibberish in it. There is no
+</I>&gt;<i> more lint checking possible with this executable. Automatic testing
+</I>&gt;<i> would show this very fast and without someone sitting there, pasting
+</I>&gt;<i> some JSON into a file to feed the executable with it.
+</I>Which sounds likes &quot;writing tests&quot;, not &quot;executing already existing
+tests&quot;, which is a whole different story...
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+BOFH excuse #139:
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+&gt;<i> Also, while we're on the subject of gvfs, it needs updated to 1.15.0
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+GNOME uses x.y.z
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+If y == uneven, this means it is a development version, AKA: no go.
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+<PRE>Op donderdag 3 januari 2013 22:14:51 schreef AL13N:
+[...]
+&gt;<i> next steps are:
+</I>&gt;<i> - install a splash/booting graphic (gfxboot/plymouth?)
+</I>
+[ ]# urpmi --no-suggests --urpmi-root /chroot/mga3 plymouth
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+the initrd is trying to redo, but with the current mga2 kernel which doesn't
+exist in the chroot. so again, i need to reinstall the kernel to trigger the
+initrd.
+
+[ ]# urpmi --no-suggests --replacepkgs --urpmi-root /chroot/mga3 kernel-
+desktop-3.7.1
+
+apparently i need more, there was only a basic text mode moving bar on the
+bottom:
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+[ ]# urpmi --no-suggests --urpmi-root /chroot/mga3 mageia-theme-Default
+[ ]# urpmi --no-suggests --replacepkgs --urpmi-root /chroot/mga3 kernel-
+desktop-3.7.1
+
+bootsplash still nothing, but at least i get a mageia logo during system boot
+and shutdown,
+
+giving up on this for now... it's a bit annoying though, since the rpc.idmapd
+message happens and then i wait about 45seconds to get a graphical screen
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+&gt;<i> - set a root password
+</I>
+chroot /chroot/mga3 passwd
+
+&gt;<i> - install a dm (kdm)
+</I>
+rather, i'm installing a full DE, so i boot it and put in a keyboard and login
+and install task-kde4
+
+ouch, my bad, it seems i have connection refused when doing local urpmi. and
+to make matters worse, it seems the rpm database has been upgraded due to that
+and the mga2 server can't install chrooted packages anymore... :-( So, i have
+to restart it.
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+&gt;<i> We already run existing tests suite during package build... Running them
+</I>&gt;<i> again on a different host would just change the execution environment to
+</I>&gt;<i> use runtime dependencies instead of build time dependencies. I don't know
+</I>&gt;<i> if the potential results are worth the additional infrastructure needed.
+</I>
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+I was under the impression, that only some kind of lint checking of the RPM
+was performed. I'm talking about checking the functionality of the packaged
+software. Are you already doing that? What kind of tests are performed
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+<PRE>Le 04/01/2013 10:15, Jochen Breuer a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2013/1/4 Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We already run existing tests suite during package build... Running
+</I>&gt;<i> them again on a different host would just change the execution
+</I>&gt;<i> environment to use runtime dependencies instead of build time
+</I>&gt;<i> dependencies. I don't know if the potential results are worth the
+</I>&gt;<i> additional infrastructure needed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was under the impression, that only some kind of lint checking of the
+</I>&gt;<i> RPM was performed. I'm talking about checking the functionality of the
+</I>&gt;<i> packaged software. Are you already doing that? What kind of tests are
+</I>&gt;<i> performed during packaging?
+</I>Running 'make check', or 'make test', or any other software test suite.
+Just check for %check section in package spec file, for instance:
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/python/current/SPECS/python.spec?revision=278990&amp;view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/python/current/SPECS/python.spec?revision=278990&amp;view=markup</A>
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+On 4 January 2013 04:41, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Glen Ogilvie skrev 3.1.2013 13:10:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Has anyone got Mageia 2 or Mageia 3 beta running on Amazon EC2?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have been having a go, but not quite got there yet, so thought I'd ask
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> if anyone has already done it?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There was someone on irc testing it and had some progress...
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know if he finished his tests.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> One thing... you need kernel-server-3.4.24-1 from 2/updates_testing
+</I>&gt;<i> to get it to boot (kernel image gz kompressed)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thank you fro the tip about using kernel-server-3.4.24-1.
+After switching to this kernel, and rebuilding initrd, with the command:
+mkinitrd-mkinitrd --with=xen-blkfront --with=xennet --with=xen-netfront
+initrd-3.4.24-server-2.mga2.img 3.4.24-server-2.mga2
+
+It worked on Amazon EC2 and I have a nice Amanzon EC2 Mageia2 box. I'll
+create a clean AMI for others to use in the next few weeks! I released a
+Mandriva 2011 public AMI about a year ago.
+
+It went much better than my attempt with 3.3.8-server-2.mga2, which
+complained about the compression format.
+I see in the change log, you have switched it back to gzip.
+
+Searching for the gzip signature, using
+od -A d -t x1 vmlinuz-3.3.8-server-2.mga2 | grep '1f 8b 08 00' does not
+find it, for 3.3.8, but searching for the xz sig, using
+od -A d -t x1 vmlinuz-3.3.8-server-2.mga2 | grep -i 'fd 37 7a 58 5a 00',
+return a match.
+
+I found what is a little bit of a trap for people... funny now I think
+about it.
+
+the output from running file vmlinuz*
+
+vmlinuz-3.4.24-server-2.mga2: Linux kernel x86 boot executable bzImage,
+version 3.4.24-server-2.mga2 (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">iurt at ecosse.mageia.org</A>) #1 SMP Tue Dec 18,
+RO-rootFS, swap_dev 0x3, Normal VGA
+vmlinuz-3.3.8-server-2.mga2: Linux kernel x86 boot executable bzImage,
+version 3.3.8-server-2.mga2 (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">iurt at jonund.mageia.org</A>) #1 SMP Mon Jul 30 ,
+RO-rootFS, swap_dev 0x2, Normal VGA
+
+It is easy to assume that bzImage mean's bzip.. but it does not.. it means
+big zimage. the actual compression type is not displayed using the file
+command.
+
+I wonder if a patch to the file command to also output the compression type
+for kernel images, might be a good idea?
+
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+Il 04/01/2013 02:37, Pierre Jarillon ha scritto:
+&gt;<i> How to disable it? How a standard user can know the name of the
+</I>&gt;<i> service ? It is hidden in the kde center manager. I never use it. I
+</I>&gt;<i> don't need it. I dare to say that!
+</I>IIRC it's in the same nepomuk/strigi icon under systemsettings,
+first tab, basic settings. But I'm almost sure there is other things
+to be disable as well, ALT-F2 settings and there you should find
+something related to nepomuk.
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+&gt;<i> If an advanced user wants nepomuk, he knows that it exists and then
+</I>&gt;<i> he is able to activate it.
+</I>Well i think it's right the contrary unfortunately instead. Most
+applications, as mikala said, use it and so it cannot be removed easily.
+
+&gt;<i> Nepomuk is a gas-works. Too much complicated. Too much difficult to
+</I>&gt;<i> repair. Unsuitable with laptops and old machines. It must not be
+</I>&gt;<i> activated by default.
+</I>I'm not sure you're confusing akonadi with nepomuk.
+
+As far as i know, Nepomuk is more a resource eater than a complicated
+thing to be used, it should help to find anything in the system (more
+your home) thanks to its indexing. But of course if, by default, it
+indexes everything directories that change and change (like imap
+accounts, browser cache etc) need to be indexed and indexed, that means
+that we can burn a SSD in a very short time :)
+
+Angelo
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+&gt;<i> 2013/1/4 Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We already run existing tests suite during package build... Running them
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> again on a different host would just change the execution environment to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> use runtime dependencies instead of build time dependencies. I don't know
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> if the potential results are worth the additional infrastructure needed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was under the impression, that only some kind of lint checking of the RPM
+</I>&gt;<i> was performed. I'm talking about checking the functionality of the packaged
+</I>&gt;<i> software. Are you already doing that? What kind of tests are performed
+</I>&gt;<i> during packaging?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Packagers are expected to do some checks themselves.
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+This should work :
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+pushd %{buildroot}%{_datadir}/%{name}/basewsw
+for i in *;
+do
+ &#160;file=`basename $i`
+ &#160;ln -sf %{_datadir}/%{name}/basewsw/$i &#160;%{buildroot}%{gamelibdir}/basewsw/$file
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+========================================
+
+Message du : 03/01/2013 23:00
+De : &quot;Juan Luis Baptiste &quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">juancho at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+A : &quot;Mageia development mailing-list&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Copie &#224; :
+Sujet : [Mageia-dev] Help with package
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+Hi,
+
+I'm having a strange problem with warsow's package. To fix bug #8103 I need
+to symlink the game data contents from warsow-data into the same directory
+were the game libraries are located. The problem is that when I build the
+package in my local cauldron installation, the symlinks are correctly
+created, but when it's built by the BS they end up broken. I have tried two
+ways to create the symlinks, both work fine on my machine but not on the BS:
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+ln -sf %{_datadir}/%{name}/basewsw/* &#160;%{buildroot}%{gamelibdir}/basewsw
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+or:
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+for i in %{_datadir}/%{name}/basewsw/*;
+do
+ &#160;file=`basename $i`
+ &#160;ln -sf $i &#160;%{buildroot}%{gamelibdir}/basewsw/$file
+done
+
+With any of those two ways in my machine the symlinks are correctly created:
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at cauldron-laptop</A> cauldron]# ll /usr/lib64/games/warsow/basewsw/
+total 28
+lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 47 Jan &#160;3 16:42 configs -&gt;
+../../../../../usr/share/warsow/basewsw/configs/
+lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 52 Jan &#160;3 16:42 data0_10.pk3 -&gt;
+../../../../../usr/share/warsow/basewsw/data0_10.pk3
+lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 56 Jan &#160;3 16:42 data0_10pure.pk3 -&gt;
+../../../../../usr/share/warsow/basewsw/data0_10pure.pk3
+lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 52 Jan &#160;3 16:42 data1_10.pk3 -&gt;
+../../../../../usr/share/warsow/basewsw/data1_10.pk3
+[...]
+
+But on the BS this is the result:
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at localhost</A> juancho]# ls -l /usr/lib64/games/warsow/basewsw/
+total 0
+lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 41 Jan &#160;3 11:13 * -&gt;
+../../../../../usr/share/warsow/basewsw/*
+
+A broken link to '*'. What can be causing this ?
+
+Thanks.
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+&gt;<i> Revision
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+</I>&gt;<i> Author
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+&gt;<i> -# Original source <A HREF="http://www.bouncycastle.org/download/bcprov-%{archivever">http://www.bouncycastle.org/download/bcprov-%{archivever</A>}.tar.gz
+</I>&gt;<i> -# is modified to
+</I>&gt;<i> -# bcprov-%{archivever}-FEDORA.tar.gz with patented algorithms removed.
+</I>&gt;<i> -# Specifically: IDEA algorithms got removed.
+</I>&gt;<i> -Source0: bcprov-%{archivever}-FEDORA.tar.gz
+</I>&gt;<i> +# Use original sources from here on out.
+</I>&gt;<i> +Source0: <A HREF="http://www.bouncycastle.org/download/bcprov-%{archivever">http://www.bouncycastle.org/download/bcprov-%{archivever</A>}.tar.gz
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+Ummm, does this mean you pushed patented into core/release,
+or has the patent expired ??
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+&gt;<i> vaci0 &lt;vaci0&gt; 3.7.1-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 338403
+</I>&gt;<i> - Updated new version 3.7.1
+</I>&gt;<i> - Fix License tag to GPLv2+
+</I>
+The stable version won't be out before Mageia 3, so wonder why? Also
+there is the possibility that it will depend on a development version of
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+ <B>AL13N</B>
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+<PRE>1. KDE requires gtk+
+2. pulseaudio suggests it's i586 counterparts (plz don't)
+3. qtwebkit requires gstreamer (not phonon)
+4. KDE requires packagekit
+5. hugin requires make
+6. kipi-plugins suggested by gwenview
+7. system-config-printer pulls in quite some gnome
+8. transfugdrake required by userdrake
+9. qtwebkit requires gnome-keyring
+
+1. kdeartwork requires xscreensaver, which requires chgb, which requires gtk+
+2. in spec file, requested for closed source 3rd party binaries that are 32bit
+3. libqtwebkit requires gstreamer directly... why not phonon
+4. libqtwebkit requires also gst-install-plugin-helper and requires packagekit
+5. hugin directly requires make... why would a gui require a buildtool?
+6. gwenview really uses all kipi-plugins?
+7. gnome-icon-theme,gnome-python,gnome-python-gnomekeyring _required_ by s-c-p
+system-config-printer MUST have a gnome keyring? that would be odd...
+8. transfugdrake required by userdrake... odd
+9. qtwebkit requires soup, requires lib64gnome-keyring, suggests gnome-keyring
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+<PRE>Le 04/01/2013 16:50, oden a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Name : iozone Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version : 3.414 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release : 1.mga3 Build Date: Fri Jan 4 16:49:26 2013
+</I>&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: jonund.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> Group : System/Kernel and hardware Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Size : 1843391 License: BSD-like
+</I>&gt;<i> Signature : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager : oden &lt;oden&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL : <A HREF="http://www.iozone.org/">http://www.iozone.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary : Iozone Filesystem Benchmark
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> IOzone is a filesystem benchmark tool. The benchmark generates and measures a
+</I>&gt;<i> variety of file operations. Iozone has been ported to many machines and runs
+</I>&gt;<i> under many operating systems.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Iozone is useful for performing a broad filesystem analysis of a vendors
+</I>&gt;<i> computer platform. The benchmark tests file I/O performance for the following
+</I>&gt;<i> operations: Read, write, re-read, re-write, read backwards, read strided,
+</I>&gt;<i> fread, fwrite, random read, pread ,mmap, aio_read, aio_write.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> oden &lt;oden&gt; 3.414-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 338711
+</I>&gt;<i> - imported package iozone
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/iozone3/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/iozone3/</A>
+So, was there.
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+ <B>nicolas.lecureuil at free.fr</B>
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+<PRE>i have not answered to all, but nothing weird at all for me here, except if you want to recode all to remove the deps you don't like.
+
+1- xscreensaver is needed by kscreensaver, so nothing weird on the packaging side.
+2- this is needed for skype, if we don't this will not work this is needed.
+3- Because the code doesn't use phonon but gstreamer, complain to qtwebkit devs. ( i think i don't tell mistakes here )
+6- gwenview can use kipi-plugins so this is a suggests, this is not weird at all, this just show you write about stuff you don't know and softs you don't use ;)
+7- hum this is normal.
+8- this is normal this is to help to migrate windows accounts, so this is completly normal
+
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+De: &quot;AL13N&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt;
+&#192;: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>
+Envoy&#233;: Vendredi 4 Janvier 2013 17:49:08
+Objet: [Mageia-dev] weird dependencies that i've seen
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+1. KDE requires gtk+
+2. pulseaudio suggests it's i586 counterparts (plz don't)
+3. qtwebkit requires gstreamer (not phonon)
+4. KDE requires packagekit
+5. hugin requires make
+6. kipi-plugins suggested by gwenview
+7. system-config-printer pulls in quite some gnome
+8. transfugdrake required by userdrake
+9. qtwebkit requires gnome-keyring
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+1. kdeartwork requires xscreensaver, which requires chgb, which requires gtk+
+2. in spec file, requested for closed source 3rd party binaries that are 32bit
+3. libqtwebkit requires gstreamer directly... why not phonon
+4. libqtwebkit requires also gst-install-plugin-helper and requires packagekit
+5. hugin directly requires make... why would a gui require a buildtool?
+6. gwenview really uses all kipi-plugins?
+7. gnome-icon-theme,gnome-python,gnome-python-gnomekeyring _required_ by s-c-p
+system-config-printer MUST have a gnome keyring? that would be odd...
+8. transfugdrake required by userdrake... odd
+9. qtwebkit requires soup, requires lib64gnome-keyring, suggests gnome-keyring
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+ <B>AL13N</B>
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+<PRE>i completely understand your point, i'm not saying these are packaging
+mistakes at all.
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+but for something qt, it doesn't make much sense to have gnome-keyring code,
+except for when there would be kwallet and gnome-keyring plugins.
+
+1. this more that xscreensaver requires chbg (does kscreensaver use this part?
+if not, maybe xscreensaver can be packaged separately), or chbg requires gtk+
+code (maybe recode would be better to be gtk/qt independant)
+
+6. about gwenview, does it actually use these kipi-plugins all the time? does
+it use all of them, or just some kipi-plugins (if they are available). if
+latter, it might be better to suggest the specific ones alone, instead of all
+of them.
+
+2, i understand for skype, but it's quite the dirty solution, perhaps a getter
+with requirements is better than just having everyone installing 32deps...
+
+
+this indeed is a list of links that exist that i found odd, since they could
+be more abstract written and thus not directly link to each other.
+
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+Op vrijdag 4 januari 2013 18:30:35 schreef <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nicolas.lecureuil at free.fr</A>:
+&gt;<i> i have not answered to all, but nothing weird at all for me here, except if
+</I>&gt;<i> you want to recode all to remove the deps you don't like.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1- xscreensaver is needed by kscreensaver, so nothing weird on the packaging
+</I>&gt;<i> side. 2- this is needed for skype, if we don't this will not work this is
+</I>&gt;<i> needed. 3- Because the code doesn't use phonon but gstreamer, complain to
+</I>&gt;<i> qtwebkit devs. ( i think i don't tell mistakes here ) 6- gwenview can use
+</I>&gt;<i> kipi-plugins so this is a suggests, this is not weird at all, this just
+</I>&gt;<i> show you write about stuff you don't know and softs you don't use ;) 7- hum
+</I>&gt;<i> this is normal.
+</I>&gt;<i> 8- this is normal this is to help to migrate windows accounts, so this is
+</I>&gt;<i> completly normal
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----- Mail original -----
+</I>&gt;<i> De: &quot;AL13N&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &#192;: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Envoy&#233;: Vendredi 4 Janvier 2013 17:49:08
+</I>&gt;<i> Objet: [Mageia-dev] weird dependencies that i've seen
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. KDE requires gtk+
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. pulseaudio suggests it's i586 counterparts (plz don't)
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. qtwebkit requires gstreamer (not phonon)
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. KDE requires packagekit
+</I>&gt;<i> 5. hugin requires make
+</I>&gt;<i> 6. kipi-plugins suggested by gwenview
+</I>&gt;<i> 7. system-config-printer pulls in quite some gnome
+</I>&gt;<i> 8. transfugdrake required by userdrake
+</I>&gt;<i> 9. qtwebkit requires gnome-keyring
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. kdeartwork requires xscreensaver, which requires chgb, which requires
+</I>&gt;<i> gtk+ 2. in spec file, requested for closed source 3rd party binaries that
+</I>&gt;<i> are 32bit 3. libqtwebkit requires gstreamer directly... why not phonon
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. libqtwebkit requires also gst-install-plugin-helper and requires
+</I>&gt;<i> packagekit 5. hugin directly requires make... why would a gui require a
+</I>&gt;<i> buildtool? 6. gwenview really uses all kipi-plugins?
+</I>&gt;<i> 7. gnome-icon-theme,gnome-python,gnome-python-gnomekeyring _required_ by
+</I>&gt;<i> s-c-p system-config-printer MUST have a gnome keyring? that would be odd...
+</I>&gt;<i> 8. transfugdrake required by userdrake... odd
+</I>&gt;<i> 9. qtwebkit requires soup, requires lib64gnome-keyring, suggests
+</I>&gt;<i> gnome-keyring
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+ <B>nicolas.lecureuil at free.fr</B>
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+<PRE>1- do you think we have manpower for this ? i think not and that we have more import pbs to deal with, as we have firefox requiring gtk, mcc, system-config-printer, ... so kscreensaver too i don't think this is a big deal
+
+6- gwenview can use ALL kipi-plugins and this is a suggests, i WON'T remove this never.
+
+----- Mail original -----
+De: &quot;AL13N&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt;
+&#192;: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>
+Cc: &quot;nicolas lecureuil&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nicolas.lecureuil at free.fr</A>&gt;
+Envoy&#233;: Vendredi 4 Janvier 2013 18:45:14
+Objet: Re: [Mageia-dev] weird dependencies that i've seen
+
+i completely understand your point, i'm not saying these are packaging
+mistakes at all.
+
+but for something qt, it doesn't make much sense to have gnome-keyring code,
+except for when there would be kwallet and gnome-keyring plugins.
+
+1. this more that xscreensaver requires chbg (does kscreensaver use this part?
+if not, maybe xscreensaver can be packaged separately), or chbg requires gtk+
+code (maybe recode would be better to be gtk/qt independant)
+
+6. about gwenview, does it actually use these kipi-plugins all the time? does
+it use all of them, or just some kipi-plugins (if they are available). if
+latter, it might be better to suggest the specific ones alone, instead of all
+of them.
+
+2, i understand for skype, but it's quite the dirty solution, perhaps a getter
+with requirements is better than just having everyone installing 32deps...
+
+
+this indeed is a list of links that exist that i found odd, since they could
+be more abstract written and thus not directly link to each other.
+
+
+Op vrijdag 4 januari 2013 18:30:35 schreef <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nicolas.lecureuil at free.fr</A>:
+&gt;<i> i have not answered to all, but nothing weird at all for me here, except if
+</I>&gt;<i> you want to recode all to remove the deps you don't like.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1- xscreensaver is needed by kscreensaver, so nothing weird on the packaging
+</I>&gt;<i> side. 2- this is needed for skype, if we don't this will not work this is
+</I>&gt;<i> needed. 3- Because the code doesn't use phonon but gstreamer, complain to
+</I>&gt;<i> qtwebkit devs. ( i think i don't tell mistakes here ) 6- gwenview can use
+</I>&gt;<i> kipi-plugins so this is a suggests, this is not weird at all, this just
+</I>&gt;<i> show you write about stuff you don't know and softs you don't use ;) 7- hum
+</I>&gt;<i> this is normal.
+</I>&gt;<i> 8- this is normal this is to help to migrate windows accounts, so this is
+</I>&gt;<i> completly normal
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----- Mail original -----
+</I>&gt;<i> De: &quot;AL13N&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &#192;: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Envoy&#233;: Vendredi 4 Janvier 2013 17:49:08
+</I>&gt;<i> Objet: [Mageia-dev] weird dependencies that i've seen
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. KDE requires gtk+
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. pulseaudio suggests it's i586 counterparts (plz don't)
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. qtwebkit requires gstreamer (not phonon)
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. KDE requires packagekit
+</I>&gt;<i> 5. hugin requires make
+</I>&gt;<i> 6. kipi-plugins suggested by gwenview
+</I>&gt;<i> 7. system-config-printer pulls in quite some gnome
+</I>&gt;<i> 8. transfugdrake required by userdrake
+</I>&gt;<i> 9. qtwebkit requires gnome-keyring
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. kdeartwork requires xscreensaver, which requires chgb, which requires
+</I>&gt;<i> gtk+ 2. in spec file, requested for closed source 3rd party binaries that
+</I>&gt;<i> are 32bit 3. libqtwebkit requires gstreamer directly... why not phonon
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. libqtwebkit requires also gst-install-plugin-helper and requires
+</I>&gt;<i> packagekit 5. hugin directly requires make... why would a gui require a
+</I>&gt;<i> buildtool? 6. gwenview really uses all kipi-plugins?
+</I>&gt;<i> 7. gnome-icon-theme,gnome-python,gnome-python-gnomekeyring _required_ by
+</I>&gt;<i> s-c-p system-config-printer MUST have a gnome keyring? that would be odd...
+</I>&gt;<i> 8. transfugdrake required by userdrake... odd
+</I>&gt;<i> 9. qtwebkit requires soup, requires lib64gnome-keyring, suggests
+</I>&gt;<i> gnome-keyring
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+ <B>David Walser</B>
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+<PRE>AL13N &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+&gt;<i> 1. this more that xscreensaver requires chbg (does kscreensaver use this
+</I>&gt;<i> part?
+</I>&gt;<i> if not, maybe xscreensaver can be packaged separately), or chbg requires
+</I>&gt;<i> gtk+ code (maybe recode would be better to be gtk/qt independant)
+</I>
+chbg is used by the default screensaver we ship with xscreensaver, originally
+implemented by mdv. If someone implements a new default screensaver that
+doesn't use chbg, we could potentially change this.
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+&gt;<i> 2, i understand for skype, but it's quite the dirty solution, perhaps a getter
+</I>&gt;<i> with requirements is better than just having everyone installing 32deps...
+</I>
+If something is required by skype, shouldn't it be required by the get-skype
+package, so it's only installed for those who need it?
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+<PRE>Le 04/01/2013 19:29, David Walser a &#233;crit :
+&gt;&gt;<i> 2, i understand for skype, but it's quite the dirty solution, perhaps a getter
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with requirements is better than just having everyone installing 32deps...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If something is required by skype, shouldn't it be required by the get-skype
+</I>&gt;<i> package, so it's only installed for those who need it?
+</I>Most proprietary software are only available as i586 binaries, this does
+not constitute a reason to enforce installation of 32bits libraries
+juste in case they would be needed...
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+&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root-odJJhXpcy38dnm+yROfE0A at public.gmane.org</A> skrev 4.1.2013 12:29:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -# Original source <A HREF="http://www.bouncycastle.org/download/bcprov-%{archivever">http://www.bouncycastle.org/download/bcprov-%{archivever</A>}.tar.gz
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -# is modified to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -# bcprov-%{archivever}-FEDORA.tar.gz with patented algorithms removed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -# Specifically: IDEA algorithms got removed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -Source0: bcprov-%{archivever}-FEDORA.tar.gz
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +# Use original sources from here on out.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +Source0: <A HREF="http://www.bouncycastle.org/download/bcprov-%{archivever">http://www.bouncycastle.org/download/bcprov-%{archivever</A>}.tar.gz
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ummm, does this mean you pushed patented into core/release,
+</I>&gt;<i> or has the patent expired ??
+</I>
+Expired. <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6910">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6910</A>
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+ <B>Angelo Naselli</B>
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+Il 04/01/2013 18:45, AL13N ha scritto:
+&gt;<i> 6. about gwenview, does it actually use these kipi-plugins all the
+</I>&gt;<i> time? does it use all of them, or just some kipi-plugins (if they
+</I>&gt;<i> are available). if latter, it might be better to suggest the
+</I>&gt;<i> specific ones alone, instead of all of them.
+</I>gwenview adds at start-up all the installed plugins under plugins menu.
+Does it use them all? Well it depends on users more than gwenview
+itself, so yes suggest it's correct, if we added require it could have
+been correct as well, but i think it has been left to suggest to allow
+kde livecd building that is already too big.
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+Angelo
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+ <B>Luc Menut</B>
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+<PRE>Le 04/01/2013 17:49, AL13N a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> 5. hugin requires make
+</I>[...]
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 5. hugin directly requires make... why would a gui require a buildtool?
+</I>
+yes, it's surprising, but hugin required make to stitch panorama, and
+it's probably still true.
+see <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=44648">https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=44648</A>
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+regards,
+Luc
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+There was a problem during the installation:
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+file /usr/bin/gdbus-codegen from install of
+libglib2.0-devel-2.34.3-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
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+file /usr/bin/gobject-query from install of
+libglib2.0-devel-2.34.3-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
+lib64glib2.0-devel-2.34.3-2.mga3.x86_64
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+file /usr/bin/gtester from install of
+libglib2.0-devel-2.34.3-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
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+&gt;<i> 1 installation transactions failed
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There was a problem during the installation:
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+</I>&gt;<i> file /usr/bin/gdbus-codegen from install of
+</I>&gt;<i> libglib2.0-devel-2.34.3-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64glib2.0-devel-2.34.3-2.mga3.x86_64
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+</I>&gt;<i> file /usr/bin/glib-genmarshal from install of
+</I>&gt;<i> libglib2.0-devel-2.34.3-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64glib2.0-devel-2.34.3-2.mga3.x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> file /usr/bin/gobject-query from install of
+</I>&gt;<i> libglib2.0-devel-2.34.3-2.mga3.i586 conflicts with file from package
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64glib2.0-devel-2.34.3-2.mga3.x86_64
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+</I>&gt;<i> file /usr/bin/gtester from install of libglib2.0-devel-2.34.3-2.mga3.i586
+</I>&gt;<i> conflicts with file from package lib64glib2.0-devel-2.34.3-2.mga3.x86_64
+</I>
+Does anyone know if the results of these tools are target independent?
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+ Christiaan
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 4 januari 2013 21:13:57 schreef Angelo Naselli:
+&gt;<i> Il 04/01/2013 18:45, AL13N ha scritto:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 6. about gwenview, does it actually use these kipi-plugins all the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; time? does it use all of them, or just some kipi-plugins (if they
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; are available). if latter, it might be better to suggest the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; specific ones alone, instead of all of them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> gwenview adds at start-up all the installed plugins under plugins menu.
+</I>&gt;<i> Does it use them all? Well it depends on users more than gwenview
+</I>&gt;<i> itself, so yes suggest it's correct, if we added require it could have
+</I>&gt;<i> been correct as well, but i think it has been left to suggest to allow
+</I>&gt;<i> kde livecd building that is already too big.
+</I>
+i guess it makes sense in that case. however, i wasn't asking to make it a
+requirement, i was just thinking (unsure) if it should be changed to just a
+few of the kipi-plugins if it used only a few. (instead of all)
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+but wrt to livecd, iinm i've heard that this was only so in the past and
+doesn't matter now. but i can be wrong on this, and in any case for this, it
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+<PRE>i didn't want to be seen as offensive here, this was just a remark from what
+i've seen, and was odd TO ME. and i'm definately not the allknowing god here.
+
+wrt to the specifics, that's not what i'm talking about. if i thought these
+were bugs that *needed* fixing, it'd have filed them as such, these are merely
+observations i made. perhaps some can easily be improved, perhaps not.
+
+regardless of that, if something would be wrong (and i'm not saying it is),
+lack of manpower doesn't remove it's wrongness, it just means it's not as
+important and it's something for later. (and besides *wrong* is often quite
+relative)
+
+to *what* you are saying i don't disagree at all... the way you say it does
+come off as a bit defensive. as if you took my original message as an annoyance
+and an offensive statement (which i definately didn't mean to do)
+
+no hard feelings...
+
+Op vrijdag 4 januari 2013 18:51:20 schreef <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nicolas.lecureuil at free.fr</A>:
+&gt;<i> 1- do you think we have manpower for this ? i think not and that we have
+</I>&gt;<i> more import pbs to deal with, as we have firefox requiring gtk, mcc,
+</I>&gt;<i> system-config-printer, ... so kscreensaver too i don't think this is a big
+</I>&gt;<i> deal
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 6- gwenview can use ALL kipi-plugins and this is a suggests, i WON'T remove
+</I>&gt;<i> this never.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----- Mail original -----
+</I>&gt;<i> De: &quot;AL13N&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &#192;: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cc: &quot;nicolas lecureuil&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nicolas.lecureuil at free.fr</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Envoy&#233;: Vendredi 4 Janvier 2013 18:45:14
+</I>&gt;<i> Objet: Re: [Mageia-dev] weird dependencies that i've seen
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i completely understand your point, i'm not saying these are packaging
+</I>&gt;<i> mistakes at all.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> but for something qt, it doesn't make much sense to have gnome-keyring code,
+</I>&gt;<i> except for when there would be kwallet and gnome-keyring plugins.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. this more that xscreensaver requires chbg (does kscreensaver use this
+</I>&gt;<i> part? if not, maybe xscreensaver can be packaged separately), or chbg
+</I>&gt;<i> requires gtk+ code (maybe recode would be better to be gtk/qt independant)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 6. about gwenview, does it actually use these kipi-plugins all the time?
+</I>&gt;<i> does it use all of them, or just some kipi-plugins (if they are available).
+</I>&gt;<i> if latter, it might be better to suggest the specific ones alone, instead
+</I>&gt;<i> of all of them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2, i understand for skype, but it's quite the dirty solution, perhaps a
+</I>&gt;<i> getter with requirements is better than just having everyone installing
+</I>&gt;<i> 32deps...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> this indeed is a list of links that exist that i found odd, since they could
+</I>&gt;<i> be more abstract written and thus not directly link to each other.
+</I>&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 4 januari 2013 18:30:35 schreef <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nicolas.lecureuil at free.fr</A>:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i have not answered to all, but nothing weird at all for me here, except
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; if
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; you want to recode all to remove the deps you don't like.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 1- xscreensaver is needed by kscreensaver, so nothing weird on the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packaging side. 2- this is needed for skype, if we don't this will not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; work this is needed. 3- Because the code doesn't use phonon but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; gstreamer, complain to qtwebkit devs. ( i think i don't tell mistakes
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; here ) 6- gwenview can use kipi-plugins so this is a suggests, this is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; not weird at all, this just show you write about stuff you don't know and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; softs you don't use ;) 7- hum this is normal.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 8- this is normal this is to help to migrate windows accounts, so this is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; completly normal
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ----- Mail original -----
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; De: &quot;AL13N&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#192;: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Envoy&#233;: Vendredi 4 Janvier 2013 17:49:08
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Objet: [Mageia-dev] weird dependencies that i've seen
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 1. KDE requires gtk+
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2. pulseaudio suggests it's i586 counterparts (plz don't)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 3. qtwebkit requires gstreamer (not phonon)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 4. KDE requires packagekit
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 5. hugin requires make
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 6. kipi-plugins suggested by gwenview
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 7. system-config-printer pulls in quite some gnome
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 8. transfugdrake required by userdrake
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 9. qtwebkit requires gnome-keyring
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 1. kdeartwork requires xscreensaver, which requires chgb, which requires
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; gtk+ 2. in spec file, requested for closed source 3rd party binaries that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; are 32bit 3. libqtwebkit requires gstreamer directly... why not phonon
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 4. libqtwebkit requires also gst-install-plugin-helper and requires
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packagekit 5. hugin directly requires make... why would a gui require a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; buildtool? 6. gwenview really uses all kipi-plugins?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 7. gnome-icon-theme,gnome-python,gnome-python-gnomekeyring _required_ by
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; s-c-p system-config-printer MUST have a gnome keyring? that would be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; odd...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 8. transfugdrake required by userdrake... odd
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 9. qtwebkit requires soup, requires lib64gnome-keyring, suggests
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; gnome-keyring
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+ <B>Christiaan Welvaart</B>
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+AFAICT nothing depends on fftw2 and glitz libraries, should they be
+removed (they don't currently build)? I have not checked for build
+dependencies.
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+Note that packages that cannot be built from source in cauldron
+core/tainted can't be released in mageia 3. There are currently about
+800 packages that don't build, see <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/</A>
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+<PRE>On Saturday 5. January 2013 01.35, Christiaan Welvaart wrote:
+&gt;<i> There are currently about 800 packages that don't build,
+</I>&gt;<i> see <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/</A>
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+That page should be redone. untill I saw your mail, I thought the autobuild vas disabled or stopped because there was No content.
+Then it hit me to perhaps activate javascript, and the content appeared.
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+There should be some message displayed to users reading the page with javascript disabled, saying they need to activate javascript.
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This should work :
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+</I>&gt;<i> pushd %{buildroot}%{_datadir}/%{name}/basewsw
+</I>&gt;<i> for i in *;
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+</I>&gt;<i> file=`basename $i`
+</I>&gt;<i> ln -sf %{_datadir}/%{name}/basewsw/$i
+</I>&gt;<i> %{buildroot}%{gamelibdir}/basewsw/$file
+</I>&gt;<i> done
+</I>&gt;<i> popd
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I> Got it working with:
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+for i in `%{_datadir}/warsow/basewsw/*`;
+do
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+ ln -sf $i %{gamelibdir}/basewsw/$file
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+The game name in the for loop was wrong.
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+Would something break if I removed the version from the &#171;Requires: rubygem(tails)&#187; line and pushed it?
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+</I>&gt;<i> I'm browsing through <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/dependencies.html,">http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/dependencies.html,</A> looking for maintainer-less packages to fix before the comming version freeze.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#171;mageia-maintainers-database&#187; is one of the packages I've found, and I'm puzzled as to why it have an explicit version requirement on ruby-rails.
+</I>&gt;<i> Can anyone enlighten me as to why that is?
+</I>&gt;<i> Would something break if I removed the version from the &#171;Requires: rubygem(tails)&#187; line and pushed it?
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+Aha. Never mind then. ;-)=
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+<PRE>I wrote a script to search an rpm in unofficial 3d party (or other) repos
+if we don't want to have them installed in our base urpmi
+Useful too, if we don't want to make a duplicate work as packagers.
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+The script:
+<A HREF="http://glenbox.free.fr/mga3prepo/0.1/mga3prepo.py">http://glenbox.free.fr/mga3prepo/0.1/mga3prepo.py</A>
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+And a rpm for lazy guys:
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia-gr.org/rpm/2/noarch/mga3prepo-0.1-1mgr2.noarch.rpm">http://www.mageia-gr.org/rpm/2/noarch/mga3prepo-0.1-1mgr2.noarch.rpm</A>
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+<PRE>Dne 5.1.2013 13:40, Dimitrios Glentadakis napsal(a):
+&gt;<i> I wrote a script to search an rpm in unofficial 3d party (or other) repos
+</I>&gt;<i> if we don't want to have them installed in our base urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> Useful too, if we don't want to make a duplicate work as packagers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The script:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://glenbox.free.fr/mga3prepo/0.1/mga3prepo.py">http://glenbox.free.fr/mga3prepo/0.1/mga3prepo.py</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And a rpm for lazy guys:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia-gr.org/rpm/2/noarch/mga3prepo-0.1-1mgr2.noarch.rpm">http://www.mageia-gr.org/rpm/2/noarch/mga3prepo-0.1-1mgr2.noarch.rpm</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Hi,
+I like it :) Just please update URL for Czech repository:
+MGA-1
+<A HREF="http://petos.cz/rpm/mageia/1/i586">http://petos.cz/rpm/mageia/1/i586</A>
+<A HREF="http://petos.cz/rpm/mageia/1/x86_64">http://petos.cz/rpm/mageia/1/x86_64</A>
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+MGA-2
+<A HREF="http://petos.cz/rpm/mageia/2/i586">http://petos.cz/rpm/mageia/2/i586</A>
+<A HREF="http://petos.cz/rpm/mageia/2/x86_64">http://petos.cz/rpm/mageia/2/x86_64</A>
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+For i586 version you have one more 's' in 'rpm' in URL.
+
+Thanks for adding my repo to yours script.
+
+Petos
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+--
+Bc. Petr &#352;afa&#345;&#237;k
+Editor at Mageia.cz
+<A HREF="http://petos.cz">http://petos.cz</A>
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+<PRE>&#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; 05/01/2013 14:58:20 Pe&#357;o&#353; &#352;afa&#345;&#237;k &#941;&#947;&#961;&#945;&#968;&#949;:
+&gt;<i>Dne 5.1.2013 13:40, Dimitrios Glentadakis napsal(a):
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I wrote a script to search an rpm in unofficial 3d party (or other) repos
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> if we don't want to have them installed in our base urpmi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Useful too, if we don't want to make a duplicate work as packagers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The script:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://glenbox.free.fr/mga3prepo/0.1/mga3prepo.py">http://glenbox.free.fr/mga3prepo/0.1/mga3prepo.py</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And a rpm for lazy guys:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia-gr.org/rpm/2/noarch/mga3prepo-0.1-1mgr2.noarch.rpm">http://www.mageia-gr.org/rpm/2/noarch/mga3prepo-0.1-1mgr2.noarch.rpm</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>I like it :) Just please update URL for Czech repository:
+</I>&gt;<i>MGA-1
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="http://petos.cz/rpm/mageia/1/i586">http://petos.cz/rpm/mageia/1/i586</A>
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="http://petos.cz/rpm/mageia/1/x86_64">http://petos.cz/rpm/mageia/1/x86_64</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>MGA-2
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="http://petos.cz/rpm/mageia/2/i586">http://petos.cz/rpm/mageia/2/i586</A>
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="http://petos.cz/rpm/mageia/2/x86_64">http://petos.cz/rpm/mageia/2/x86_64</A>
+</I>
+I added a text message in the script with a list of some known unofficial repositories (as shown here: <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=7&amp;t=1985">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=7&amp;t=1985</A>)
+so if someone wants to add them, he can have the links and adjusting them for Mageia 2 or 1, and after for 3..., by changing the path.
+Firstly, i wanted to configure by default all known links, but i think it is better to add only the wanted media (instead of deleting the unwanted)
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+&gt;<i>For i586 version you have one more 's' in 'rpm' in URL.
+</I>
+oops, i fixed the url
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+Thanks :)
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+Le 05/01/2013 13:40, Dimitrios Glentadakis a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I wrote a script to search an rpm in unofficial 3d party (or
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+</I>&gt;<i> packagers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The script: <A HREF="http://glenbox.free.fr/mga3prepo/0.1/mga3prepo.py">http://glenbox.free.fr/mga3prepo/0.1/mga3prepo.py</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And a rpm for lazy guys:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia-gr.org/rpm/2/noarch/mga3prepo-0.1-1mgr2.noarch.rpm">http://www.mageia-gr.org/rpm/2/noarch/mga3prepo-0.1-1mgr2.noarch.rpm</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -- Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+Awesome!
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+And thank you for using Python 3 :)
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+<PRE>If nobody objects I am going to rebuild php treadsafe (--enable-maintainer-zts)
+it is needed for running apache with mpm-module-worker instead of prefork and php
+apache module worker is needed by 389-ds. It is now declared as stable.
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+But apache mpm-prefork starts with php compiled treadsafe
+apache mpm-worker doesn't start with php compiled none-treadsafe
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+There isn't a lot about this in the documentation and most articles on the web relate to php in
+windows.
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+we are still in b1 and if serious problems surface, we could go back to none treadsafe
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+<PRE>first, there's a textline i see which says that there no &quot;nogroup&quot; group inside
+the initrd, which is required by rpc.idmapd. perhaps the fact that there is a
+text line at that point breaks the plymouth startup? maybe that is another
+problem.
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+anyway, i had made a generic one via chrooted methods, and then i made a local
+one after the PXE+NFS was working (so that i could get all the correct
+drivers).
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+firstly, i had to add nfs manually, for some reason, even though i had already
+removed network from omit, the nfs wasn't autoadded, even though / is nfs
+mountpoint in fstab.
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+but then systemd-remount-fs fails too, for unknown reasons. is it related? i
+donno.
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+in any case, the host specific one gives an error about be2-latin1.
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+looking at the different initrds (first one is generic; second is hostlocal):
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+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at localhost</A> linux]# lsinitrd /data/system/nfsroot/chestbuster-
+mageia-3/boot/initrd-3.7.1-desktop-1.mga3.img | grep be2-latin
+-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 435 Jul 21 20:27
+usr/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/azerty/be2-latin1.uni.map.gz
+-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 439 Jul 21 20:27
+usr/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/azerty/be2-latin1.map.gz
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at localhost</A> linux]# lsinitrd /data/system/nfsroot/chestbuster-
+mageia-3/boot/initrd-3.7.1-desktop-1.mga3_new.img | grep be2-latin
+-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 740 Jan 5 16:50
+usr/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/azerty/be2-latin1.uni.map
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+is the problem the one without uni? or because it's not gzipped? no idea...
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+<PRE>Op zaterdag 5 januari 2013 10:20:35 schreef Thomas Spuhler:
+&gt;<i> If nobody objects I am going to rebuild php treadsafe
+</I>&gt;<i> (--enable-maintainer-zts) it is needed for running apache with
+</I>&gt;<i> mpm-module-worker instead of prefork and php apache module worker is needed
+</I>&gt;<i> by 389-ds. It is now declared as stable.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But apache mpm-prefork starts with php compiled treadsafe
+</I>&gt;<i> apache mpm-worker doesn't start with php compiled none-treadsafe
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There isn't a lot about this in the documentation and most articles on the
+</I>&gt;<i> web relate to php in windows.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> we are still in b1 and if serious problems surface, we could go back to none
+</I>&gt;<i> treadsafe
+</I>
+i would say, go for it, we'll know soon enough if it's a problem, anything
+php/apache related will show. and turning back will likely be quite easy.
+
+you should however rebuild all the php modules, to see if they all work with
+thread-safe enforced.
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+<PRE>Dear all,
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+I pushed ghc-7.6.1 a bit too soon, and I know realise that having the
+stable 7.4.2 version is better for Mageia 3. Can the sysadm team remove
+ghc-7.6.1, ghc-doc-7.6.1 and ghc-prof-7.6.1 from the mirrors and replace
+it with the mga2 version (7.0.4)?
+I will then revert the svn and update to 7.4.2.
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+Thanks,
+--
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+<PRE>Dear packagers,
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+A lot of progress has happened on the RPM group move. Thanks a lot.
+However there is still a bit to do before the release happens.
+
+The main categories that need still to be changed are:
+
+Obsolete group | number of remaining packages
+
+Books/Computer books 2
+Books/Howtos 2
+Books/Other 26
+Graphics 116
+Office 86
+Sound 104
+Video 224
+
+Total = 560
+(which represents only 18% of the packages that had to change group:
+ the 81% have already been dealt with. Yeah us!)
+
+For these 560 packages, it is mostly about sending them to the different
+subgroups mentioned in the policy:
+
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/RPM_groups_policy#List_of_official_groups">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/RPM_groups_policy#List_of_official_groups</A>
+
+However, several hundreds of these packages have not been moved because
+they do not build. So it's the opportunity to look at the rebuild effort
+that pterjan started at <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/</A>
+
+Last but not least, it has been reported that some of the groups were
+not adapted, therefore slowing down the movement, since no one knows
+where to put the packages. I'm taking notes about possible minor changes
+that could be implemented quickly (through simple scripting):
+- creation of Games/Simulation
+- Graphics/Editors renamed as Graphics/Editors and Converters
+- Graphics/Other renamed as Graphics/Utilities
+- Office/Other renamed as Office/Utilities
+- creation of Sound/Composition
+- removal of Sound/Visualisation
+- creation of Video/Television
+
+I think it's a bit too late to do that before Beta 2 (although since
+these changes do not affect anything but the presentation in rpmdrake,
+it's safe to do it at any time), but I wish to hear other possible
+suggestions (someone suggested to have a System/Sound for sound systems,
+like alsa or pulseaudio).
+
+Any remarks? Suggestions?
+
+Cheers,
+--
+Malo
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+ <B>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou</B>
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+Dear packagers,
+
+A lot of progress has happened on the RPM group move. Thanks a lot.
+However there is still a bit to do before the release happens.
+
+The main categories that need still to be changed are:
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+Obsolete group | number of remaining packages
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+Books/Computer books 2
+Books/Howtos 2
+Books/Other 26
+Graphics 116
+Office 86
+Sound 104
+Video 224
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+Total = 560
+(which represents only 18% of the packages that had to change group:
+ the 81% have already been dealt with. Yeah us!)
+
+For these 560 packages, it is mostly about sending them to the different
+subgroups mentioned in the policy:
+
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/RPM_groups_policy#List_of_official_groups">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/RPM_groups_policy#List_of_official_groups</A>
+
+However, several hundreds of these packages have not been moved because
+they do not build. So it's the opportunity to look at the rebuild effort
+that pterjan started at <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/</A>
+
+Last but not least, it has been reported that some of the groups were
+not adapted, therefore slowing down the movement, since no one knows
+where to put the packages. I'm taking notes about possible minor changes
+that could be implemented quickly (through simple scripting):
+- creation of Games/Simulation
+- Graphics/Editors renamed as Graphics/Editors and Converters
+- Graphics/Other renamed as Graphics/Utilities
+- Office/Other renamed as Office/Utilities
+- creation of Sound/Composition
+- removal of Sound/Visualisation
+- creation of Video/Television
+
+I think it's a bit too late to do that before Beta 2 (although since
+these changes do not affect anything but the presentation in rpmdrake,
+it's safe to do it at any time), but I wish to hear other possible
+suggestions (someone suggested to have a System/Sound for sound systems,
+like alsa or pulseaudio).
+
+Any remarks? Suggestions?
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+Cheers,
+--
+Malo
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+&gt;<i> just use &quot;%rename rp-pppoe-plugin&quot;.
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+In changelog, you mean?
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+ <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B>
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+<PRE>&#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; 05/01/2013 16:39:53 Sandro CAZZANIGA &#941;&#947;&#961;&#945;&#968;&#949;:
+&gt;<i>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Le 05/01/2013 13:40, Dimitrios Glentadakis a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I wrote a script to search an rpm in unofficial 3d party (or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> other) repos if we don't want to have them installed in our base
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> urpmi Useful too, if we don't want to make a duplicate work as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packagers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The script: <A HREF="http://glenbox.free.fr/mga3prepo/0.1/mga3prepo.py">http://glenbox.free.fr/mga3prepo/0.1/mga3prepo.py</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And a rpm for lazy guys:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia-gr.org/rpm/2/noarch/mga3prepo-0.1-1mgr2.noarch.rpm">http://www.mageia-gr.org/rpm/2/noarch/mga3prepo-0.1-1mgr2.noarch.rpm</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -- Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Awesome!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>And thank you for using Python 3 :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I updated the script because i 've just found in line 125 i forgot the brackets in the close method
+Weird, i did n't have any error messages just after adding a media i saw that the list was n't updated immediately.
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+Dimitrios Glentadakis
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+&gt;<i> On Saturday 5. January 2013 13.18, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> In changelog, you mean?
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+ <B>philippe makowski</B>
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+I have a build fail in Cauldron
+(<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/cauldron/x86_64/core/log/python-cairo-1.10.0-3.mga3.src.rpm/build.0.20130104032637.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/cauldron/x86_64/core/log/python-cairo-1.10.0-3.mga3.src.rpm/build.0.20130104032637.log</A>)
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+because %python3_waf is resolved as /usr/bin/waf-3.3 build -l12 -j12
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+and I don't understand why
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+we have in /etc/rpm/macros.d/waf-python3.macros :
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+%python3_waf %__python3_waf build %_smp_mflags
+and
+%__python3_waf %{_bindir}/waf-%{python3_version}
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+so why getting /usr/bin/waf-3.3 build -l12 -j12
+instead of /usr/bin/waf-3.3 build -j12
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+from where come this -l that is not supported by waf (waf-3.3: error:
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+ <B>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou</B>
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+<PRE>Le 06/01/13 13:19,philippe makowski nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have a build fail in Cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/cauldron/x86_64/core/log/python-cairo-1.10.0-3.mga3.src.rpm/build.0.20130104032637.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/cauldron/x86_64/core/log/python-cairo-1.10.0-3.mga3.src.rpm/build.0.20130104032637.log</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> because %python3_waf is resolved as /usr/bin/waf-3.3 build -l12 -j12
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and I don't understand why
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> we have in /etc/rpm/macros.d/waf-python3.macros :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> %python3_waf %__python3_waf build %_smp_mflags
+</I>&gt;<i> and
+</I>&gt;<i> %__python3_waf %{_bindir}/waf-%{python3_version}
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> so why getting /usr/bin/waf-3.3 build -l12 -j12
+</I>&gt;<i> instead of /usr/bin/waf-3.3 build -j12
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> from where come this -l that is not supported by waf (waf-3.3: error:
+</I>&gt;<i> no such option: -l)
+</I>
+I believe the answer is in how the autobuild is done:
+<A HREF="http://fasmz.org/~pterjan/blog/?date=20130103#p01">http://fasmz.org/~pterjan/blog/?date=20130103#p01</A>
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+The parameters are not exactly the same as the ones on the build system.
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+Cheers,
+--
+Malo
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+I'm orphaning python-memphis
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+<PRE>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 06/01/13 13:19,philippe makowski nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have a build fail in Cauldron
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/cauldron/x86_64/core/log/python-cairo-1.10.0-3.mga3.src.rpm/build.0.20130104032637.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/cauldron/x86_64/core/log/python-cairo-1.10.0-3.mga3.src.rpm/build.0.20130104032637.log</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> because %python3_waf is resolved as /usr/bin/waf-3.3 build -l12 -j12
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and I don't understand why
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we have in /etc/rpm/macros.d/waf-python3.macros :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %python3_waf %__python3_waf build %_smp_mflags
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %__python3_waf %{_bindir}/waf-%{python3_version}
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so why getting /usr/bin/waf-3.3 build -l12 -j12
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> instead of /usr/bin/waf-3.3 build -j12
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> from where come this -l that is not supported by waf (waf-3.3: error:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> no such option: -l)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I believe the answer is in how the autobuild is done:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://fasmz.org/~pterjan/blog/?date=20130103#p01">http://fasmz.org/~pterjan/blog/?date=20130103#p01</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The parameters are not exactly the same as the ones on the build system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>There was the same problem for lv2 with the autobuild system...
+lv2 uses waf too !
+
+It could correctly build on the Build System but failed with autobuild,
+for the same reason
+
+A workaround consists to modify the spec file :
+replace &quot;./waf %{?_smp_mflags}&quot; with simply &quot;./waf build&quot;
+
+but it will take more time to build :(
+
+
+A contrario :
+Ardour3 that uses waf can be built without any problem with the
+autobuild system :
+the spec file contains symply ; ./waf build
+
+
+Nevertheless, the autobuild system is now different from the
+BuildSystem, and I don't know if it's useful to modify your spec file,
+to be compliant with the autobuild, not knowing for now if the same
+modification will be applied inside the BS.
+
+NB some programs ask to use their own bundled version of waf... which
+means that modifying Mageia waf-rpm and the waf-python3.macros will not
+solve the problem of the smp_flags for them.
+
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+Regards
+Philippe
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+&gt;<i> I have a build fail in Cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/cauldron/x86_64/core/log/python-cairo-1.10.0-3.mga3.src.rpm/build.0.20130104032637.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/cauldron/x86_64/core/log/python-cairo-1.10.0-3.mga3.src.rpm/build.0.20130104032637.log</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> because %python3_waf is resolved as /usr/bin/waf-3.3 build -l12 -j12
+</I>
+To solve it we could add a new rpm macro that is only allowed to be empty
+or have -jN (N &gt;= 1), e.g. &quot;_njobs_mflag&quot;.
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+<PRE>On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 2:44 PM, PhilippeDidier
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">philippedidier at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 06/01/13 13:19,philippe makowski nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have a build fail in Cauldron
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/cauldron/x86_64/core/log/python-cairo-1.10.0-3.mga3.src.rpm/build.0.20130104032637.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/cauldron/x86_64/core/log/python-cairo-1.10.0-3.mga3.src.rpm/build.0.20130104032637.log</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> because %python3_waf is resolved as /usr/bin/waf-3.3 build -l12 -j12
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and I don't understand why
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> we have in /etc/rpm/macros.d/waf-python3.macros :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %python3_waf %__python3_waf build %_smp_mflags
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %__python3_waf %{_bindir}/waf-%{python3_version}
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> so why getting /usr/bin/waf-3.3 build -l12 -j12
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> instead of /usr/bin/waf-3.3 build -j12
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> from where come this -l that is not supported by waf (waf-3.3: error:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> no such option: -l)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I believe the answer is in how the autobuild is done:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://fasmz.org/~pterjan/blog/?date=20130103#p01">http://fasmz.org/~pterjan/blog/?date=20130103#p01</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The parameters are not exactly the same as the ones on the build system.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There was the same problem for lv2 with the autobuild system...
+</I>&gt;<i> lv2 uses waf too !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It could correctly build on the Build System but failed with autobuild,
+</I>&gt;<i> for the same reason
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A workaround consists to modify the spec file :
+</I>&gt;<i> replace &quot;./waf %{?_smp_mflags}&quot; with simply &quot;./waf build&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> but it will take more time to build :(
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A contrario :
+</I>&gt;<i> Ardour3 that uses waf can be built without any problem with the
+</I>&gt;<i> autobuild system :
+</I>&gt;<i> the spec file contains symply ; ./waf build
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nevertheless, the autobuild system is now different from the
+</I>&gt;<i> BuildSystem, and I don't know if it's useful to modify your spec file,
+</I>&gt;<i> to be compliant with the autobuild, not knowing for now if the same
+</I>&gt;<i> modification will be applied inside the BS.
+</I>
+I had suggested few months ago to use it on build system too to not
+kill the machine when it gets to build several kernels each of them
+using -jN, but it is being tested on autobuild first (using it allowed
+to reduce total build time from 6 days to 30h).
+
+So far only waf should be a problem. Maybe we could add a macro with
+only the number of cpus and use -j%n_cpus with waf instead of using
+the make flags given that it is not compatible with other make
+options? (In smp_mflags the second m is for make)
+
+I just searched for it and it seems rpm upstream will add such macro
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669638#c13">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669638#c13</A>
+
+&gt;<i> NB some programs ask to use their own bundled version of waf...
+</I>
+This is very sad
+
+&gt;<i> which means that modifying Mageia waf-rpm and the waf-python3.macros will not
+</I>&gt;<i> solve the problem of the smp_flags for them.
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+&gt;<i> 9. qtwebkit requires gnome-keyring
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+&gt;<i> 9. qtwebkit requires soup, requires lib64gnome-keyring, suggests gnome-keyring
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+&gt;<i>From libsoup 2.41.3
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+ <I>Sun Jan 6 16:13:38 CET 2013</I>
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+2013/1/6 Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> So far only waf should be a problem. Maybe we could add a macro with
+</I>&gt;<i> only the number of cpus and use -j%n_cpus with waf instead of using
+</I>&gt;<i> the make flags given that it is not compatible with other make
+</I>&gt;<i> options? (In smp_mflags the second m is for make)
+</I>That' s fine for me
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+<PRE>On 05/01/13 22:48, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> Any remarks? Suggestions?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I have been plodding along updating what I can, but it's slow as many
+need patching to fix build failures.
+
+Also there are many KDE packages which I have avoided touching, as KDE
+maintainers tend to get upset when packages are interfered with.
+Could some process be adopted where KDE packages may be updated and a
+nominated KDE reviewer be notified to push them and help speed things up
+a bit?
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+ <B>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou</B>
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+<PRE>Le 06/01/13 16:21,Barry Jackson nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+&gt;<i> On 05/01/13 22:48, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any remarks? Suggestions?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have been plodding along updating what I can, but it's slow as many
+</I>&gt;<i> need patching to fix build failures.
+</I>
+Yes, thanks a lot!
+
+&gt;<i> Also there are many KDE packages which I have avoided touching, as KDE
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainers tend to get upset when packages are interfered with.
+</I>&gt;<i> Could some process be adopted where KDE packages may be updated and a
+</I>&gt;<i> nominated KDE reviewer be notified to push them and help speed things up
+</I>&gt;<i> a bit?
+</I>
+I think for KDE devs, if you just tell them beforehand what you want to
+do, then they can just tell you to go ahead. I think they don't like if
+you just modify without telling them first, as they seem to use svn to
+plan ahead quite regularly, and you better not submit the packages
+yourself since the version in svn is usually ahead of cauldron.
+
+They told me for example that I can go ahead and change in svn the
+groups of several kde games packages (although I haven't got to do that
+yet, but maybe you can have a go if you want).
+
+KDE devs are touchy because they need a lot of planning and sync to be
+able to serve us the various RC on the day they are released ;-).
+
+Cheers,
+--
+Malo
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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 3:13 PM, philippe makowski
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">makowski.mageia at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2013/1/6 Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So far only waf should be a problem. Maybe we could add a macro with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> only the number of cpus and use -j%n_cpus with waf instead of using
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the make flags given that it is not compatible with other make
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> options? (In smp_mflags the second m is for make)
+</I>&gt;<i> That' s fine for me
+</I>
+Anyone against such patch? I would change _smp_mflags to %([
+%_build_ncpus -gt 1 ] &amp;&amp; echo &quot;-j%_build_ncpus -l%_build_ncpus&quot;) later
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at chopin</A> trunk]$ svn diff
+Index: build.macros.in
+===================================================================
+--- build.macros.in (revision 7023)
++++ build.macros.in (working copy)
+@@ -207,9 +207,10 @@
+ %{nil}
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+-%_smp_mflags %([ -z &quot;$RPM_BUILD_NCPUS&quot; ] \\\
+- &amp;&amp; RPM_BUILD_NCPUS=&quot;`/usr/bin/getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN`&quot;; \\\
+- [ &quot;$RPM_BUILD_NCPUS&quot; -gt 1 ] &amp;&amp; echo &quot;-j$RPM_BUILD_NCPUS&quot;)
++# Define _build_ncpus which can be reused with non-make build systems
++# Needs to be sent upstream
++%_build_ncpus %([ -n &quot;$RPM_BUILD_NCPUS&quot; ] &amp;&amp; echo &quot;$RPM_BUILD_NCPUS&quot;
+||<i> /usr/bin/getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN)
+</I>+%_smp_mflags %([ %_build_ncpus -gt 1 ] &amp;&amp; echo &quot;-j%_build_ncpus&quot;)
+
+ %_make_bin make
+ %make %{_make_bin} %_smp_mflags
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+ <B>Christiaan Welvaart</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, 6 Jan 2013, Pascal Terjan wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Anyone against such patch? I would change _smp_mflags to %([
+</I>&gt;<i> %_build_ncpus -gt 1 ] &amp;&amp; echo &quot;-j%_build_ncpus -l%_build_ncpus&quot;) later
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at chopin</A> trunk]$ svn diff
+</I>&gt;<i> Index: build.macros.in
+</I>&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;<i> --- build.macros.in (revision 7023)
+</I>&gt;<i> +++ build.macros.in (working copy)
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -207,9 +207,10 @@
+</I>&gt;<i> %{nil}
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -%_smp_mflags %([ -z &quot;$RPM_BUILD_NCPUS&quot; ] \\\
+</I>&gt;<i> - &amp;&amp; RPM_BUILD_NCPUS=&quot;`/usr/bin/getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN`&quot;; \\\
+</I>&gt;<i> - [ &quot;$RPM_BUILD_NCPUS&quot; -gt 1 ] &amp;&amp; echo &quot;-j$RPM_BUILD_NCPUS&quot;)
+</I>&gt;<i> +# Define _build_ncpus which can be reused with non-make build systems
+</I>&gt;<i> +# Needs to be sent upstream
+</I>&gt;<i> +%_build_ncpus %([ -n &quot;$RPM_BUILD_NCPUS&quot; ] &amp;&amp; echo &quot;$RPM_BUILD_NCPUS&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> || /usr/bin/getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN)
+</I>&gt;<i> +%_smp_mflags %([ %_build_ncpus -gt 1 ] &amp;&amp; echo &quot;-j%_build_ncpus&quot;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> %_make_bin make
+</I>&gt;<i> %make %{_make_bin} %_smp_mflags
+</I>
+Fine. I might call it _build_njobs but of course the name is not the
+important part.
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+&gt;<i> In spec file.
+</I>&gt;<i> This ensures we end with both obsoletes &amp; provides tags
+</I>
+The reason I didn't do that, is that I think it might not obsolete te current version, as the &#171;replacement package&#187; have an &#171;older&#187; vversion number than te one being obsoleted.
+Specifically, rp-pppoe-plugin have version 3.10, but ppp-pppoe that's replacing it have version 2.4.5. So the %rename tag will not even obsolete a 12 year old package. (rp-pppoe v2.5 was released in 2000)
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+That is how I've understood the %rename tag.
+So the way I see it, I should just add a Provides tag.
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+&gt;<i> On 05/01/13 22:48, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Any remarks? Suggestions?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have been plodding along updating what I can, but it's slow as many
+</I>&gt;<i> need patching to fix build failures.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also there are many KDE packages which I have avoided touching, as KDE
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainers tend to get upset when packages are interfered with.
+</I>&gt;<i> Could some process be adopted where KDE packages may be updated and a
+</I>&gt;<i> nominated KDE reviewer be notified to push them and help speed things up
+</I>&gt;<i> a bit?
+</I>Which packages needs fix ?
+Did you try to simply send an email to Luc Menut, Nicolas Lecureuil or me for
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+With again some delays i'm going to push KDE 4.10RC2
+There's some major changes related to nepomuk affecting especially dolphin so
+we'll get after an rc3 for KDE 4.10.
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 6 janvier 2013 16:31:49 Balcaen John a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With again some delays i'm going to push KDE 4.10RC2
+</I>&gt;<i> There's some major changes related to nepomuk affecting especially dolphin
+</I>&gt;<i> so we'll get after an rc3 for KDE 4.10.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>
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+<PRE>well, at boot time, the nfs isn't mounted.
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+the reason seems to be that nfs-common doesn't exist anymore and is replaced
+by various nfs-*.service files; which aren't loaded and not enabled.
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+is this something that needs to be triggered by something else?
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+am i missing a package on this cauldron machine?
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+ <B>AL13N</B>
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+<PRE>Op zondag 6 januari 2013 21:30:07 schreef Nicolas L&#233;cureuil:
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 6 janvier 2013 16:31:49 Balcaen John a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; With again some delays i'm going to push KDE 4.10RC2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; There's some major changes related to nepomuk affecting especially dolphin
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; so we'll get after an rc3 for KDE 4.10.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> \o/
+</I>
+donno if it was related or not, but this error message is in the center of my
+screen: &quot;file protocol suddenly died&quot;
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+<PRE>On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 6:27 AM, Johnny A. Solbu &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cooker at solbu.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Saturday 5. January 2013 01.35, Christiaan Welvaart wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There are currently about 800 packages that don't build,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> see <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That page should be redone. untill I saw your mail, I thought the autobuild vas disabled or stopped because there was No content.
+</I>&gt;<i> Then it hit me to perhaps activate javascript, and the content appeared.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There should be some message displayed to users reading the page with javascript disabled, saying they need to activate javascript.
+</I>
+Feel free to send a patch :)
+
+Meanwhile <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/results.php?run=latest">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/results.php?run=latest</A>
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+<PRE>Le 05/01/13 22:48,Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+&gt;<i> Last but not least, it has been reported that some of the groups were
+</I>&gt;<i> not adapted, therefore slowing down the movement, since no one knows
+</I>&gt;<i> where to put the packages. I'm taking notes about possible minor changes
+</I>&gt;<i> that could be implemented quickly (through simple scripting):
+</I>&gt;<i> - creation of Games/Simulation
+</I>&gt;<i> - Graphics/Editors renamed as Graphics/Editors and Converters
+</I>&gt;<i> - Graphics/Other renamed as Graphics/Utilities
+</I>&gt;<i> - Office/Other renamed as Office/Utilities
+</I>&gt;<i> - creation of Sound/Composition
+</I>&gt;<i> - removal of Sound/Visualisation
+</I>&gt;<i> - creation of Video/Television
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it's a bit too late to do that before Beta 2 (although since
+</I>&gt;<i> these changes do not affect anything but the presentation in rpmdrake,
+</I>&gt;<i> it's safe to do it at any time), but I wish to hear other possible
+</I>&gt;<i> suggestions (someone suggested to have a System/Sound for sound systems,
+</I>&gt;<i> like alsa or pulseaudio).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any remarks? Suggestions?
+</I>
+After discussion on IRC, it seems Sound/Composition is not necessary and
+would conflict with Midi a lot.
+
+Other opinions?
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+Cheers,
+--
+Malo
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 6 janvier 2013 21:36:02 AL13N a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op zondag 6 januari 2013 21:30:07 schreef Nicolas L&#233;cureuil:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le dimanche 6 janvier 2013 16:31:49 Balcaen John a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; With again some delays i'm going to push KDE 4.10RC2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; There's some major changes related to nepomuk affecting especially
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; dolphin
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; so we'll get after an rc3 for KDE 4.10.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; \o/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> donno if it was related or not, but this error message is in the center of
+</I>&gt;<i> my screen: &quot;file protocol suddenly died&quot;
+</I>
+make sure you have all KDE updated and restart it
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+<PRE>On 01/06/2013 03:34 PM, AL13N wrote:
+&gt;<i> well, at boot time, the nfs isn't mounted.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> the reason seems to be that nfs-common doesn't exist anymore and is replaced
+</I>&gt;<i> by various nfs-*.service files; which aren't loaded and not enabled.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> is this something that needs to be triggered by something else?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> am i missing a package on this cauldron machine?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i need some help with this...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Probably <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6541">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6541</A>
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+ <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B>
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+<PRE>I have problems figuring out how to fix checkinstall.
+A recent update on my cauldron system, broke building of &#171;checkinstall&#187;, and I don't know how to fix it.
+I've tested an opensuse package, and it builds. and I can't figure out which opensuse patch fixes it.
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+I'm temptet to just dropp it. It's not in mga1 or 2, and it seems to be abandoned upstream. last version was released in 2008.
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+ <B>David Walser</B>
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+<PRE>In honor of the upcoming version freeze in Cauldron (this week according to current planning), I went looking for packages with newer versions available, that are NOT seen by our youri tool, and therefore will not be seen here:
+<A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/updates.html">http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/updates.html</A>
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+Because of that, some of you may be interested in some of these packages and be unaware that newer versions are available.
+
+I compiled the list over the past two days, and queried the Sophie bot for the maintainers, so they're listed below by the IRC log. Sorry if you're on IRC and got pinged 50 times this weekend :o)
+
+As far as why youri missed these, some of these are because youri doesn't check in the places that the other tools I used do. The first list is from ROSA, the second list is a combination of ROSA and upstream, and the third list comes from mib-report which checks other distros that youri doesn't, like ALT-Linux and OpenSuSE. Some of the packages mib-report found are in distros we check, however, so I'm not sure why it missed them. Hopefully this can be looked into.
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+First list, based on:
+<A HREF="http://upstream-tracker.org/repodiff_reports/2012_desktop/report.html">http://upstream-tracker.org/repodiff_reports/2012_desktop/report.html</A>
+
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s bonnie++
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (bonnie++): dams
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s c++-gtk-utils
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (c++-gtk-utils): barjac
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s courier-imap
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (courier-imap): shlomif
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s cups-drivers-bjnp
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (cups-drivers-bjnp): dmorgan
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s curtain
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (curtain): matteo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s deadwood
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (deadwood): dmorgan
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s deltarpm
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (deltarpm): bcornec
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s efax-gtk
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (efax-gtk): barjac
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s freetuxtv
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (freetuxtv): zezinho
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s fsa
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (fsa): nobody
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s gcl
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (gcl): nobody
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s geis
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (geis): matteo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s globulation2
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (globulation2): zezinho
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s gmt
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (gmt): grenoya
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s grail
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (grail): matteo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s gstreamer0.10-vaapi
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (gstreamer0.10-vaapi): anssi
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s httping
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (httping): juancho
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s lazarus
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (lazarus): remmy
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libquvi-scripts
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libquvi-scripts): fwang
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s phalanx
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (phalanx): kamil
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s plasma-applet-quickaccess
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (plasma-applet-quickaccess): nobody
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s powermanga
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (powermanga): zezinho
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-odf
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-odf): philippem
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-parsing
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-parsing): dmorgan
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-poppler-qt4
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-poppler-qt4): fwang
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-tornado
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-tornado): lebedov
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-xmldiff
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-xmldiff): philippem
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s rosegarden
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (rosegarden): shikamaru
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s rpmstats
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (rpmstats): nobody
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s sphinx
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (sphinx): barjac
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s u-boot-tools
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (u-boot-tools): shlomif
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s unimrcp
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (unimrcp): dlucio
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s vice
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (vice): barjac
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s wmcpuload
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (wmcpuload): eatdirt
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s x11-driver-video-qxl
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (x11-driver-video-qxl): tv
+
+Second list, based on:
+<A HREF="http://upstream-tracker.org/updates/rosa/2012/all/">http://upstream-tracker.org/updates/rosa/2012/all/</A>
+
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s 0ad-data
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (0ad-data): fwang
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s autoconf-archive
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (autoconf-archive): wally
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s avogadro
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (avogadro): matteo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s dvdisaster
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (dvdisaster): vaci0
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s enigma
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (enigma): zezinho
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s fox1.6
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (fox1.6): fwang
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s freetds
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (freetds): nobody
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s gaupol
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (gaupol): wally
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s gypsy
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (gypsy): nobody
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libdbusmenu
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libdbusmenu): obgr_seneca
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libcdio
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libcdio): nobody
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; we can't do that one right now, because the new version (0.90) removes the libcdio_cdda library
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libgoogle-data-mono
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libgoogle-data-mono): nobody
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libmcrypt
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libmcrypt): nobody
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libmusicbrainz
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libmusicbrainz): nobody
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libtorrent-rasterbar
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libtorrent-rasterbar): matteo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libunique
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libunique): nobody
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s liquidwar
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (liquidwar): zezinho
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s mondo
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (mondo): bcornec
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s mono-nunit22
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (mono-nunit22): nobody
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s mrepo
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (mrepo): bcornec
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s mx4j
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (mx4j): nobody
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s nagiosgraph
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (nagiosgraph): nobody
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s objectweb-asm
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (objectweb-asm): nobody
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s openbabel
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (openbabel): nobody
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s openipmi
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (openipmi): fwang
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s openntpd
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (openntpd): remmy
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s ppmtomd
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (ppmtomd): nobody
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s project-builder
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (project-builder): bcornec
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s rpmbootstrap
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (rpmbootstrap): bcornec
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s x11-driver-video-mga
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (x11-driver-video-mga): tv
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s x11-driver-video-sisimedia
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (x11-driver-video-sisimedia): tv
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s xdvik
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (xdvik): nanardon
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s xpp3
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (xpp3): dmorgan
+
+Third list, based on mib-report. I built mib-report and ran it locally, so there's no URL to point you to. Because of that, I included after each one what the newer version is and which distro it came from.
+
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s abiword-docs
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (abiword-docs): nobody
+should be 2.9.4 like abiword, rosa has it
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s autogen
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (autogen): nobody
+5.17.1 debian
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s cclive
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (cclive): kamil
+0.7.11 gentoo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s cmus
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (cmus): shlomif
+2.5.0 pclinuxos
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s converseen
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (converseen): juancho
+0.5.2 pclinuxos
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s cpulimit
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (cpulimit): dams
+1.8 gentoo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s crawl
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (crawl): obgr_seneca
+0.11.1 debian
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s dpic
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (dpic): dmorgan
+2012.11.04 opensuse
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s dvdstyler
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (dvdstyler): eatdirt
+2.3.4 gentoo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s easymock-classextension
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (easymock-classextension): dmorgan
+1.2.1 alt-linux
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s eigen3
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (eigen3): barjac
+3.1.2 debian&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s emacs-chess
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (emacs-chess): nanardon
+2.0b6 debian
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s ffdiaporama
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (ffdiaporama): obgr_seneca
+1.5 gentoo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s flite
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (flite): dlucio
+1.5.4 alt-linux
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s fltk
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (fltk): fwang
+1.3.2 gentoo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s fotoxx
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (fotoxx): juancho
+13.01 fedora
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s fox
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (fox): fwang
+1.7.37 gentoo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s gnu-efi
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (gnu-efi): pterjan
+3.0s gentoo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s guile
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (guile): nobody
+2.0.7 opensuse
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s haveged
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (haveged): nobody
+1.6 opensuse
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s hwloc
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (hwloc): eatdirt
+1.6 gentoo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s i3
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (i3): obgr_seneca
+4.4 opensuse
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s jas-plotter
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (jas-plotter): dmorgan
+2.2.6 debian
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s jasperreports
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (jasperreports): dmorgan
+4.1.3 debian
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s jmol
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (jmol): dmorgan
+12.2.32 debian
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s jnr-netdb
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (jnr-netdb): dmorgan
+1.1.1 gentoo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s jnr-x86asm
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (jnr-x86asm): dmorgan
+1.0.2 gentoo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s jsch
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (jsch): dmorgan
+0.1.49 opensuse
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s jtds
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (jtds): dmorgan
+1.3.0 gentoo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s jzlib
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (jzlib): dmorgan
+1.1.1 gentoo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s kaption
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (kaption): nobody
+0.1.1 alt-linux
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s keepnote
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (keepnote): ofaurax
+0.7.9 gentoo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s labyrinth
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (labyrinth): wally
+0.6 ubuntu
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libformula
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libformula): nobody
+1.1.7 debian
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libHX
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libHX): nobody
+3.14.1 opensuse
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libkolab
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libkolab): spuhler
+0.4.0 opensuse
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libnova
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libnova): nobody
+0.15.0 alt-linux
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libsolv
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libsolv): colin
+0.2.3 opensuse
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libyui-ncurses
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libyui-ncurses): matteo
+2.43.2 opensuse
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libzypp
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libzypp): cjw
+12.6.0 opensuse
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s lucene2
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (lucene2): dmorgan
+2.9.4 debian
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s makepasswd
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (makepasswd): obgr_seneca
+1.10 gentoo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s mednafen
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (mednafen): dmorgan
+0.9.27 debian
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s minetest
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (minetest): dams
+0.4.4 rosa
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s musl
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (musl): tv
+0.9.8 alt-linux
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s nailgun
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (nailgun): dmorgan
+0.9.0 debian
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s nmapsi4
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (nmapsi4): juancho
+0.3.1 debian
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s obexd
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (obexd): colin
+0.48 gentoo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s opencolorio
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (opencolorio): fwang
+1.0.8 fedora
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s opencore-amr
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (opencore-amr): nobody
+0.1.3 rosa
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s openlp
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (openlp): solbu
+2.0.1 fedora
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s otrs
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (otrs): dlucio
+3.1.12 opensuse
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s parallel
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (parallel): nobody
+20121222 alt-linux
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+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (perltidy): jquelin
+20121207 gentoo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s php-smarty
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (php-smarty): obgr_seneca
+3.1.12 fedora
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+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-apsw): solbu
+3.7.14.r2 pclinuxos
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-beaker
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-beaker): philippem
+1.6.4 opensuse
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+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-cloudfiles): philippem
+1.7.11 debian
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-ipaddr
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-ipaddr): shlomif
+2.1.10 opensuse
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+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-irc): colin
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+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-jsonschema): neoclust
+0.7 opensuse
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-py2pack
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-py2pack): philippem
+0.4.1.1 opensuse
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-pyparsing
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-pyparsing): philippem
+1.5.6 opensuse
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-simplejson
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-simplejson): philippem
+2.6.2 opensuse
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-warlock
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-warlock): neoclust
+0.6.0 opensuse
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+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (redis-py): obgr_seneca
+2.7.2 gentoo
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+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (resource-agents): nobody
+3.9.4 opensuse
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s rrdcollect
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (rrdcollect): bertl
+0.2.10 debian
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s schroot
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (schroot): philippem
+1.6.4 debian
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s screengrab
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (screengrab): matteo
+0.9.92 alt-linux
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+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (skrooge): nobody
+1.4.0 debian
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+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (smplayer): obgr_seneca
+0.8.3 gentoo
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+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (smplayer): shlomif
+3.0.2 opensuse
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+1.14 gentoo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s svnkit
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (svnkit): nobody
+1.7.5 debian
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s sweethome3d
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (sweethome3d): dmorgan
+3.7 debian
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s texmaker
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (texmaker): malo
+3.5.2 pclinuxos
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s tortoisehg
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (tortoisehg): anaselli
+2.6.2 fedora
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s trojita
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (trojita): matteo
+0.3.90 gentoo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s tvbrowser
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (tvbrowser): obgr_seneca
+3.2.1 opensuse
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s unison
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (unison): malo
+2.45.4 alt-linux
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+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (vo-amrwbenc): nobody
+0.1.2 rosa
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+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (ws-commons-axiom): dmorgan
+1.2.12 alt-linux
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+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (x2goclient): obgr_seneca
+3.99.3.0 gentoo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s yaml
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (yaml): spuhler
+1.0.6 gentoo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s zypper
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (zypper): cjw
+1.8.7 opensuse
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 6 janvier 2013 21:53:42 Nicolas L&#233;cureuil a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 6 janvier 2013 21:36:02 AL13N a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op zondag 6 januari 2013 21:30:07 schreef Nicolas L&#233;cureuil:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Le dimanche 6 janvier 2013 16:31:49 Balcaen John a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; With again some delays i'm going to push KDE 4.10RC2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; There's some major changes related to nepomuk affecting especially
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; dolphin
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; so we'll get after an rc3 for KDE 4.10.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; \o/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; donno if it was related or not, but this error message is in the center of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; my screen: &quot;file protocol suddenly died&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> make sure you have all KDE updated and restart it
+</I>Well KDE is not already available ;o)
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+<PRE>On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Johnny A. Solbu &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cooker at solbu.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I have problems figuring out how to fix checkinstall.
+</I>&gt;<i> A recent update on my cauldron system, broke building of &#171;checkinstall&#187;, and I don't know how to fix it.
+</I>&gt;<i> I've tested an opensuse package, and it builds. and I can't figure out which opensuse patch fixes it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm temptet to just dropp it. It's not in mga1 or 2, and it seems to be abandoned upstream. last version was released in 2008.
+</I>
+The code contains tests like :
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+#if (GLIBC_MINOR &lt;= 4)
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+And their create-localdecls script will define it for each known
+version (from 0 to 7) or default to 1. Because 17 is not between 0 and
+7 and 1 &lt;= 4 it is using the readlink prototype of a very old glibc...
+
+This patch seems to fix it
+<A HREF="https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=installwatch-glibc_minor.patch&amp;package=checkinstall&amp;project=openSUSE%3AFactory">https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=installwatch-glibc_minor.patch&amp;package=checkinstall&amp;project=openSUSE%3AFactory</A>
+but I didn't try to build with it
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+<PRE>On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Johnny A. Solbu &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cooker at solbu.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have problems figuring out how to fix checkinstall.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A recent update on my cauldron system, broke building of &#171;checkinstall&#187;, and I don't know how to fix it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've tested an opensuse package, and it builds. and I can't figure out which opensuse patch fixes it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm temptet to just dropp it. It's not in mga1 or 2, and it seems to be abandoned upstream. last version was released in 2008.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The code contains tests like :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> #if (GLIBC_MINOR &lt;= 4)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And their create-localdecls script will define it for each known
+</I>&gt;<i> version (from 0 to 7) or default to 1. Because 17 is not between 0 and
+</I>&gt;<i> 7 and 1 &lt;= 4 it is using the readlink prototype of a very old glibc...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This patch seems to fix it
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=installwatch-glibc_minor.patch&amp;package=checkinstall&amp;project=openSUSE%3AFactory">https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=installwatch-glibc_minor.patch&amp;package=checkinstall&amp;project=openSUSE%3AFactory</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> but I didn't try to build with it
+</I>
+Ah and it just broke now because we have a patch adding the values up
+to 16... checkinstall-mdv-fix-glibc-detection.patch
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+ <B>Thomas Spuhler</B>
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+<PRE>On Sunday, January 06, 2013 03:04:48 PM David Walser wrote:
+&gt;<i> In honor of the upcoming version freeze in Cauldron (this week according to
+</I>&gt;<i> current planning), I went looking for packages with newer versions
+</I>&gt;<i> available, that are NOT seen by our youri tool, and therefore will not be
+</I>&gt;<i> seen here: <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/updates.html">http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/updates.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Because of that, some of you may be interested in some of these packages
+</I>&gt;<i> and be unaware that newer versions are available.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I compiled the list over the past two days, and queried the Sophie bot for
+</I>&gt;<i> the maintainers, so they're listed below by the IRC log. Sorry if you're
+</I>&gt;<i> on IRC and got pinged 50 times this weekend :o)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As far as why youri missed these, some of these are because youri doesn't
+</I>&gt;<i> check in the places that the other tools I used do. The first list is
+</I>&gt;<i> from ROSA, the second list is a combination of ROSA and upstream, and the
+</I>&gt;<i> third list comes from mib-report which checks other distros that youri
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't, like ALT-Linux and OpenSuSE. Some of the packages mib-report
+</I>&gt;<i> found are in distros we check, however, so I'm not sure why it missed
+</I>&gt;<i> them. Hopefully this can be looked into.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> First list, based on:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://upstream-tracker.org/repodiff_reports/2012_desktop/report.html">http://upstream-tracker.org/repodiff_reports/2012_desktop/report.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s bonnie++
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (bonnie++): dams
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s c++-gtk-utils
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (c++-gtk-utils): barjac
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s courier-imap
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (courier-imap): shlomif
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s cups-drivers-bjnp
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (cups-drivers-bjnp): dmorgan
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s curtain
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (curtain): matteo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s deadwood
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (deadwood): dmorgan
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s deltarpm
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (deltarpm): bcornec
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s efax-gtk
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (efax-gtk): barjac
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s freetuxtv
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (freetuxtv): zezinho
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s fsa
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (fsa): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s gcl
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (gcl): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s geis
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (geis): matteo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s globulation2
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (globulation2): zezinho
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s gmt
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (gmt): grenoya
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s grail
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (grail): matteo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s gstreamer0.10-vaapi
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (gstreamer0.10-vaapi): anssi
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s httping
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (httping): juancho
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s lazarus
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (lazarus): remmy
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libquvi-scripts
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libquvi-scripts): fwang
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s phalanx
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (phalanx): kamil
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s plasma-applet-quickaccess
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (plasma-applet-quickaccess): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s powermanga
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (powermanga): zezinho
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-odf
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-odf): philippem
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-parsing
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-parsing): dmorgan
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-poppler-qt4
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-poppler-qt4): fwang
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-tornado
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-tornado): lebedov
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-xmldiff
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-xmldiff): philippem
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s rosegarden
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (rosegarden): shikamaru
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s rpmstats
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (rpmstats): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s sphinx
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (sphinx): barjac
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s u-boot-tools
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (u-boot-tools): shlomif
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s unimrcp
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (unimrcp): dlucio
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s vice
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (vice): barjac
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s wmcpuload
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (wmcpuload): eatdirt
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s x11-driver-video-qxl
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (x11-driver-video-qxl): tv
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Second list, based on:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://upstream-tracker.org/updates/rosa/2012/all/">http://upstream-tracker.org/updates/rosa/2012/all/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s 0ad-data
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (0ad-data): fwang
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s autoconf-archive
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (autoconf-archive): wally
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s avogadro
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (avogadro): matteo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s dvdisaster
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (dvdisaster): vaci0
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s enigma
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (enigma): zezinho
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s fox1.6
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (fox1.6): fwang
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s freetds
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (freetds): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s gaupol
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (gaupol): wally
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s gypsy
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (gypsy): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libdbusmenu
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libdbusmenu): obgr_seneca
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libcdio
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libcdio): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; we can't do that one right now, because the new version (0.90)
+</I>&gt;<i> removes the libcdio_cdda library &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libgoogle-data-mono
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libgoogle-data-mono): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libmcrypt
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libmcrypt): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libmusicbrainz
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libmusicbrainz): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libtorrent-rasterbar
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libtorrent-rasterbar): matteo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libunique
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libunique): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s liquidwar
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (liquidwar): zezinho
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s mondo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (mondo): bcornec
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s mono-nunit22
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (mono-nunit22): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s mrepo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (mrepo): bcornec
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s mx4j
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (mx4j): <A HREF="nobodyhttp://pyyaml.org/download/libyaml">nobodyhttp://pyyaml.org/download/libyaml</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s nagiosgraph
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (nagiosgraph): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s objectweb-asm
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (objectweb-asm): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s openbabel
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (openbabel): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s openipmi
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (openipmi): fwang
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s openntpd
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (openntpd): remmy
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s ppmtomd
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (ppmtomd): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s project-builder
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (project-builder): bcornec
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s rpmbootstrap
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (rpmbootstrap): bcornec
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s x11-driver-video-mga
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (x11-driver-video-mga): tv
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s x11-driver-video-sisimedia
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (x11-driver-video-sisimedia): tv
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s xdvik
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (xdvik): nanardon
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s xpp3
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (xpp3): dmorgan
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Third list, based on mib-report. I built mib-report and ran it locally, so
+</I>&gt;<i> there's no URL to point you to. Because of that, I included after each
+</I>&gt;<i> one what the newer version is and which distro it came from.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s abiword-docs
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (abiword-docs): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> should be 2.9.4 like abiword, rosa has it
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s autogen
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (autogen): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> 5.17.1 debian
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s <A HREF="cclivehttp://pyyaml.org/download/libyaml">cclivehttp://pyyaml.org/download/libyaml</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (cclive): kamil
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.7.11 gentoo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s cmus
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (cmus): shlomif
+</I>&gt;<i> 2.5.0 pclinuxos
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s converseen
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (converseen): juancho
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.5.2 pclinuxos
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s cpulimit
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (cpulimit): dams
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.8 gentoo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s crawl
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (crawl): obgr_seneca
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.11.1 debian
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s dpic
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (dpic): dmorgan
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012.11.04 opensuse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s dvdstyler
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (dvdstyler): eatdirt
+</I>&gt;<i> 2.3.4 gentoo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s easymock-classextension
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (easymock-classextension): dmorgan
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.2.1 alt-linux
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s eigen3
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (eigen3): barjac
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.1.2 debian&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s emacs-chess
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (emacs-chess): nanardon
+</I>&gt;<i> 2.0b6 debian
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s ffdiaporama
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (ffdiaporama): obgr_seneca
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.5 gentoo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s flite
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (flite): dlucio
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.5.4 alt-linux
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s fltk
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (fltk): fwang
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.3.2 gentoo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s fotoxx
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (fotoxx): juancho
+</I>&gt;<i> 13.01 fedora
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s fox
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (fox): fwang
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.7.37 gentoo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s gnu-efi
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (gnu-efi): pterjan
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.0s gentoo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s guile
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (guile): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> 2.0.7 opensuse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s haveged
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (haveged): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.6 opensuse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s hwloc
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (hwloc): eatdirt
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.6 gentoo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s i3
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (i3): obgr_seneca
+</I>&gt;<i> 4.4 opensuse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s jas-plotter
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (jas-plotter): dmorgan
+</I>&gt;<i> 2.2.6 debian
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s jasperreports
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (jasperreports): dmorgan
+</I>&gt;<i> 4.1.3 debian
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s jmol
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (jmol): dmorgan
+</I>&gt;<i> 12.2.32 debian
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s jnr-netdb
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (jnr-netdb): dmorgan
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.1.1 gentoo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s jnr-x86asm
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (jnr-x86asm): dmorgan
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.0.2 gentoo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s jsch
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (jsch): dmorgan
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.1.49 opensuse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s jtds
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (jtds): dmorgan
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.3.0 gentoo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s jzlib
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (jzlib): dmorgan
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.1.1 gentoo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s kaption
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (kaption): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.1.1 alt-linux
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s keepnote
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (keepnote): ofaurax
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.7.9 gentoo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s labyrinth
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (labyrinth): wally
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.6 ubuntu
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libformula
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libformula): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.1.7 debian
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libHX
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libHX): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.14.1 opensuse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libkolab
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libkolab): spuhler
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.4.0 opensuse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libnova
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libnova): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.15.0 alt-linux
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libsolv
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libsolv): colin
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.2.3 opensuse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libyui-ncurses
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libyui-ncurses): matteo
+</I>&gt;<i> 2.43.2 opensuse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libzypp
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (libzypp): cjw
+</I>&gt;<i> 12.6.0 opensuse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s lucene2
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (lucene2): dmorgan
+</I>&gt;<i> 2.9.4 debian
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s makepasswd
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (makepasswd): obgr_seneca
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.10 gentoo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s mednafen
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (mednafen): dmorgan
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.9.27 debian
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s minetest
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (minetest): dams
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.4.4 rosa
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s musl
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (musl): tv
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.9.8 alt-linux
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s nailgun
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (nailgun): dmorgan
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.9.0 debian
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s nmapsi4
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (nmapsi4): juancho
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.3.1 debian
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s obexd
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (obexd): colin
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.48 gentoo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s opencolorio
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (opencolorio): fwang
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.0.8 fedora
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s opencore-amr
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (opencore-amr): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.1.3 rosa
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s openlp
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (openlp): solbu
+</I>&gt;<i> 2.0.1 fedora
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s otrs
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (otrs): dlucio
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.1.12 opensuse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s parallel
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (parallel): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> 20121222 alt-linux
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s perltidy
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (perltidy): jquelin
+</I>&gt;<i> 20121207 gentoo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s php-smarty
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (php-smarty): obgr_seneca
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.1.12 fedora
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-apsw
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-apsw): solbu
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.7.14.r2 pclinuxos
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-beaker
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-beaker): philippem
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.6.4 opensuse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-cloudfiles
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-cloudfiles): philippem
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.7.11 debian
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-ipaddr
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-ipaddr): shlomif
+</I>&gt;<i> 2.1.10 opensuse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-irc
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-irc): colin
+</I>&gt;<i> 5.0.1 debian
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-jsonschema
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-jsonschema): neoclust
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.7 opensuse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-py2pack
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-py2pack): philippem
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.4.1.1 opensuse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-pyparsing
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-pyparsing): philippem
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.5.6 opensuse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-simplejson
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-simplejson): philippem
+</I>&gt;<i> 2.6.2 opensuse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-warlock
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (python-warlock): neoclust
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.6.0 opensuse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s redis-py
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (redis-py): obgr_seneca
+</I>&gt;<i> 2.7.2 gentoo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s resource-agents
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (resource-agents): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.9.4 opensuse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s rrdcollect
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (rrdcollect): bertl
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.2.10 debian
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s schroot
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (schroot): philippem
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.6.4 debian
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s screengrab
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (screengrab): matteo
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.9.92 alt-linux
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s skrooge
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (skrooge): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.4.0 debian
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s smplayer
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (smplayer): obgr_seneca
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.8.3 gentoo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s smplayer
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (smplayer): shlomif
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.0.2 opensuse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s sslh
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (sslh): blino
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.14 gentoo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s svnkit
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (svnkit): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.7.5 debian
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s sweethome3d
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (sweethome3d): dmorgan
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.7 debian
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s texmaker
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (texmaker): malo
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.5.2 pclinuxos
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s tortoisehg
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (tortoisehg): anaselli
+</I>&gt;<i> 2.6.2 fedora
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s trojita
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (trojita): matteo
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.3.90 gentoo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s tvbrowser
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (tvbrowser): obgr_seneca
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.2.1 opensuse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s unison
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (unison): malo
+</I>&gt;<i> 2.45.4 alt-linux
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s vo-amrwbenc
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (vo-amrwbenc): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.1.2 rosa
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s ws-commons-axiom
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (ws-commons-axiom): dmorgan
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.2.12 alt-linux
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s x2goclient
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (x2goclient): obgr_seneca
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.99.3.0 gentoo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s yaml
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (yaml): spuhler
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.0.6 gentoo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s zypper
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (zypper): cjw
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.8.7 opensuse
+</I>
+Thanks David. Pls take the Gentoo version with a grain of salt. Yaml version 1.0.4 is till the
+current at upstream.
+I will update libkolab right now.
+--
+Best regards
+Thomas Spuhler
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+<PRE>Dear Mageia developers,
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+After I pulled latest update from Cauldron, I found out that I cannot
+boot into my Mageia system. The error message during boot process is:
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+-----------
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+mount: /proc: filesystem mounted, but mount(8) failed: no such file or directory
+Cannot mount proc on /proc! Compile the kernel with CONFIG_PROC_FS!
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+Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! exitcode=0x00000100
+...
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+The sequence of update was like this - happened on 6th January 2013,
+around 20:30 CET:
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+1. Updated glibc/locales to 2.17
+2. Rebooted system - boot OK
+3. Started rpmdrake
+4. Updated rpm/librpm etc
+5. rpmdrake restarted itself
+6. Updated all packages for which rpmdrake reported that update exists
+7. Rebooted system - boot failure/kernel panic (see messages above)
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+I tried rebooting with both kernels 3.7.1-desktop-1mga3 and
+3.7.0-desktop-1mga3, but the error message was the same: kernel panic
+and frozen machine.
+I used &quot;Rescue system&quot; option from Mageia DVD and inspected my
+filesystem mounted under /mnt. To my surprise, /proc directory was
+there.
+
+Relevant information:
+=================
+System: Mageia Couldron x86_64
+Glibc: 2.17-1
+Kernel: 3.7.1-desktop-1mga3
+RPM mirror: Esslingen (DE)
+
+Please let me know if you need additional information.
+
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+Regards,
+Zoltan
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+<PRE>On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 10:04 PM, David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s abiword-docs
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (abiword-docs): nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> should be 2.9.4 like abiword, rosa has it
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+It doesn't build and didn't seem obvious to fix when I tried last month
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+abiword --to=html --to-name=&quot;dialogchangecase.html&quot;
+--exp-props=&quot;html4: no; use-awml: no; embed-css: yes;
+embed-images:yes&quot; &quot;dialogchangecase.abw&quot;
+libGL error: failed to load driver: i965
+libGL error: Try again with LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose for more details.
+make[3]: *** [dialogchangecase.html] Aborted
+
+With LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose it gave the following errors and I gave up.
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+abiword --to=html --to-name=&quot;dialogchangecase.html&quot;
+--exp-props=&quot;html4: no; use-awml: no; embed-css: yes;
+embed-images:yes&quot; &quot;dialogchangecase.abw&quot;
+libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib64/dri/i965_dri.so
+libGL error: failed to open drm device: No such file or directory
+libGL error: failed to load driver: i965
+libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib64/dri/swrast_dri.so
+libGL: Can't open configuration file /home/pterjan/.drirc: No such
+file or directory.
+libGL: Can't open configuration file /home/pterjan/.drirc: No such
+file or directory.
+make[3]: *** [dialogchangecase.html] Aborted
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+<PRE>On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 10:04 PM, David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s abiword-docs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (abiword-docs): nobody
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> should be 2.9.4 like abiword, rosa has it
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It doesn't build and didn't seem obvious to fix when I tried last month
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When I try to build it on my server over ssh I get:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> abiword --to=html --to-name=&quot;dialogchangecase.html&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> --exp-props=&quot;html4: no; use-awml: no; embed-css: yes;
+</I>&gt;<i> embed-images:yes&quot; &quot;dialogchangecase.abw&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> libGL error: failed to load driver: i965
+</I>&gt;<i> libGL error: Try again with LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose for more details.
+</I>&gt;<i> make[3]: *** [dialogchangecase.html] Aborted
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose it gave the following errors and I gave up.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> abiword --to=html --to-name=&quot;dialogchangecase.html&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> --exp-props=&quot;html4: no; use-awml: no; embed-css: yes;
+</I>&gt;<i> embed-images:yes&quot; &quot;dialogchangecase.abw&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib64/dri/i965_dri.so
+</I>&gt;<i> libGL error: failed to open drm device: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> libGL error: failed to load driver: i965
+</I>&gt;<i> libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib64/dri/swrast_dri.so
+</I>&gt;<i> libGL: Can't open configuration file /home/pterjan/.drirc: No such
+</I>&gt;<i> file or directory.
+</I>&gt;<i> libGL: Can't open configuration file /home/pterjan/.drirc: No such
+</I>&gt;<i> file or directory.
+</I>&gt;<i> make[3]: *** [dialogchangecase.html] Aborted
+</I>
+(Also, my server has Matrox hardware and my laptop has nvidia, so I
+have no idea what in abiword is trying to load something related to
+i965 to convert this specific document)
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 4 januari 2013 10:08:04 schreef AL13N:
+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 3 januari 2013 22:14:51 schreef AL13N:
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>
+after the rpm database issue i redid to make sure urpmi can run locally AND
+network actually works.
+
+a quick refresh:
+
+[ ]# urpmi.addmedia --urpmi-root /chroot/mga3 --distrib
+<A HREF="http://127.0.0.1/mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64">http://127.0.0.1/mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64</A>
+[ ]# vi /chroot/mga3/etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg # to disable updates and add nonfree
+and tainted
+[ ]# urpmi.update -a --urpmi-root /chroot/mga3
+[ ]# urpmi --no-suggests --urpmi-root /chroot/mga3 basesystem-minimal locales-
+en locales-nl urpmi
+[ ]# urpmi --no-suggests --urpmi-root /chroot/mga3 dhcp-client iptables
+radeon-firmware nfs-utils dracut vim-enhanced openssh-server # needed for later
+[ ]# vi /chroot/mga3/etc/dracut.conf.d/50-mageia.conf # remove network and add
+nfs drivers
+[ ]# urpmi --no-suggests --urpmi-root /chroot/mga3 kernel-desktop-latest
+[ ]# urpmi --no-suggests --urpmi-root /chroot/mga3 plymouth mageia-theme-
+Default
+[ ]# rm /chroot/mga3/boot/initrd-3.7.1-desktop-1.mga3.img
+[ ]# urpmi --replacepkgs --no-suggests --urpmi-root /chroot/mga3 kernel-
+desktop-3.7.1
+
+it appears the background is gone, did i make an error somewhere? i expected
+the plymouth to work better, now that the radeon firmware is present...
+
+
+in any case, next steps:
+
+&gt;<i> - setting fstab correctly
+</I>
+i set the / first, then /proc; and then the other nfs mount points
+
+however, after booting, i notice this:
+
+[ ]# systemctl status systemd-remount-fs.service
+systemd-remount-fs.service - Remount Root and Kernel File Systems
+ Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-remount-fs.service;
+static)
+ Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Sat, 2013-01-05 08:33:13
+UTC; 13min ago
+ Docs: man:systemd-remount-fs.service(8)
+ Process: 511 ExecStart=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd-remount-fs
+(code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
+ CGroup: name=systemd:/system/systemd-remount-fs.service
+
+Jan 05 08:33:13 localhost systemd[1]: Starting Remount Root and Kernel File
+Systems...
+Jan 05 08:33:13 localhost systemd[1]: systemd-remount-fs.service: main process
+exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE
+Jan 05 08:33:13 localhost systemd[1]: Failed to start Remount Root and Kernel
+File Systems.
+Jan 05 08:33:13 localhost systemd[1]: Unit systemd-remount-fs.service entered
+failed state
+
+
+no clue as to what i going on... is it because it was mounted rw directly? and
+now it's rw too? no idea, it's no script and there's no info about it.
+
+&gt;<i> - set a root password + regular user
+</I>
+[ ]# chroot /chroot/mga3 passwd
+[ ]# chroot /chroot/mga3 useradd foo
+[ ]# chroot /chroot/mga3 passwd foo
+
+&gt;<i> - install a dm (kdm)
+</I>
+after locally starting sshd.service, i login remotely and use the following to
+do task-kde4 and still skip some stuff
+
+originally, it was 2GB and 2000+ packages, with all the skip, i get 1GB and
+~800 packages:
+
+[ ]# urpmi --skip libpulseaudio0,libalsa-plugins-pulseaudio,kde4-irc-
+client,phonon-gstreamer,lib64gstreamer1.0-pulse,lib64gstreamer0.10-pulse,gst-
+install-plugins-helper,digikam,dragon,system-config-printer,msec-gui,task-kde4-
+handbooks,kaccessible,kdegames4,jovie,kamera,kgamma,ksnapshot,kmag,kmouth,kdegraphics-
+strigi-analyzer,kmousetool,kruler,nepomuk,kontact,plasma-krunner-
+nepomuk,kactivitymanagerd-nepomuk-plugin,kdepim4,cagibi,telepathy-presence-
+applet,telepathy-kde-presence-applet,rfkill,wireless-tools,gnome-
+keyring,amarok,krfb,kopete,kppp,kget,krdc,kde4-filesharing,kipi-plugins --
+prefer pinentry-qt4,phonon-xine,plasma-applet-kimpanel-backend-ibus task-kde4
+
+this took quite a while... i believe that again, i have some sort of weird
+slowness, that i've been experiencing since i upgraded the nfs server to
+mageia2, will need to check this later.
+
+rebooting didn't start kdm, but then i didn't expect it. will likely need to
+do that with the MCC.
+
+i did drakconf and selected display manager and start X on startup, then
+removed xguest, and rebooted
+
+&gt;<i> - try to do some autoconfiguring that happens during install (i forgot, but
+</I>&gt;<i> i think a tool somewhere exists in drakxtools) (that should set the
+</I>&gt;<i> keyboard to azerty too)
+</I>
+I'm installing MCC completely, so that i can use the MCC to configure all
+hardware. (considering the previous step, drakconf is already mostly
+installed)
+
+went to deviceinfo on MCC
+then set keyboard on MCC
+then set autologin on MCC
+
+- LCD panel
+[ ]# urpmi lcdproc
+[ ]# vi /etc/lcdproc/LCDd.conf
+- wiimote
+[ ]# urpmi cwiid
+
+i also noticed some weird displaying artefacts, so i also installed kde4-
+oxygen-transparent, unsure if it actually helped
+
+&gt;<i> - install plasma-applet-launchbutton
+</I>
+installed, i copied over my images and settings
+
+&gt;<i> - configure autologin
+</I>
+used MCC for this
+
+&gt;<i> - use the nfsmounts which have all my media
+</I>
+fix the /etc/fstab and make the paths
+
+there is a remote-fs error going on.
+
+systemctl enable remote-fs.target seemed to work, but the first mount point
+fails because lockd isn't started yet.
+
+&gt;<i> - fix the look to what i want and set up multiple launchbuttons which do
+</I>&gt;<i> the purposes and install the programs
+</I>
+for me this includes xine-ui, firefox, etc...
+
+to be done:
+&gt;<i> - fix xine-ui keymap to work with the wiimote
+</I>==&gt; i need to do some settings and then protect the file by marking it readonly
+for the regular user as well (even if it's in his own homedir)
+&gt;<i> - fix to have dvds autoplay
+</I>==&gt; i remember i did something for this, but i think i had to build my own
+package cause this wasn't in KDE (or not yet/not anymore)
+&gt;<i> - fix KDE to be suitable for TV and wiimote
+</I>==&gt; fonts larger, icons larger, drag treshold larger, single click setting
+&gt;<i> - find a nice dark background
+</I>
+
+my biggest issues are:
+1) it would be very useful for this to have a really generic inird(without
+an installer) to start from on the mirrors (in isolinux/alt0/ maybe?) 2)
+how the hell does urpmi with --urpmi-root handle dracut? why does it work
+like that and not chrooted?
+3) why are all these nfs drivers omitted, even though i can see nothing
+about this in the config files and directories? (in dracut)
+4) when doing dhcp, the network fails when booting causing it to stop booting
+5) nfs mount points don't work at boot time
+6) cwiid didn't have a startup script (i started to make one, it's not perfect
+yet)
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+<PRE>Op zondag 6 januari 2013 23:38:32 schreef Mailing List:
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+&gt;<i> mount: /proc: filesystem mounted, but mount(8) failed: no such file or
+</I>&gt;<i> directory Cannot mount proc on /proc!
+</I>[...]
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+i had this in my chrooted installs, but since /proc was mounted there, i
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+ <B>Joseph Wang</B>
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+<PRE>There's a backlog of about 32 packages that I've packaged, but haven't
+been built since I don't have build privileges, and I'm adding new
+packages at the rate of five or six a week. I was wondering what can
+be done to reduce that backlog. If necessary, we can wait until after
+the release to add them, but there are some packages (mostly games
+like raceintospace or nice eye candy like virtualmoon) that might be
+worth getting into Mageia 3.
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+ quantlib
+ gretl
+ python-pyp2rpm
+ leocad
+ leocad-data
+ python-cgen
+ python-codepy
+ python-opencl
+ python-opengl-demo
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+ python-cosmocalc
+ python-voeventlib
+ raceintospace
+ cinnamon (update, not for mageia 3)
+ plplot (update)
+ golly
+ aladin
+ vtk
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+ <B>Joseph Wang</B>
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+<PRE>A lot of the packages seem to be broken because
+AM_CONFIG_HEADER(config.h) needs to be replaced with
+AC_CONFIG_HEADERS([config.h])
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+1) I can go through and put in a sed command in the specs that does
+the conversion, and e-mail the maintainers. If I check in a change
+into the mgarepo does the build happen automatically or is some other
+intervention needed?
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+2) If we do this, is there a fast way of doing a grep of the logs to
+see what packages are failing because of this issue? It seems to be
+affecting a lot of packages.
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+ <B>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou</B>
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+<PRE>Le 06/01/13 23:09,Joseph Wang nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+&gt;<i> A lot of the packages seem to be broken because
+</I>&gt;<i> AM_CONFIG_HEADER(config.h) needs to be replaced with
+</I>&gt;<i> AC_CONFIG_HEADERS([config.h])
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) I can go through and put in a sed command in the specs that does
+</I>&gt;<i> the conversion, and e-mail the maintainers. If I check in a change
+</I>&gt;<i> into the mgarepo does the build happen automatically or is some other
+</I>&gt;<i> intervention needed?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) If we do this, is there a fast way of doing a grep of the logs to
+</I>&gt;<i> see what packages are failing because of this issue? It seems to be
+</I>&gt;<i> affecting a lot of packages.
+</I>
+Hi Joseph,
+
+Everyone is aware, and many people (esp. cjw) have been patching the
+configure.ac files.
+Maybe you should follow what is going on at <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/</A>
+or subscribe to the changelog mailing-list (which tells you of every
+package that is updated on Mageia): that will tell you what people are
+currently doing :-).
+
+Cheers,
+--
+Malo
+
+BTW the subject of the mail is wrong.
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+ <B>Joseph Wang</B>
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+<PRE>Sure thing. I can start patching some of the rpms that aren't haven't
+been done yet. However, I was wondering if I can do that with just
+subversion commit privileges or do I need to be able to submit build
+requests to do this?
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+<PRE>Le 06/01/13 23:22,Joseph Wang nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+&gt;<i> Sure thing. I can start patching some of the rpms that aren't haven't
+</I>&gt;<i> been done yet. However, I was wondering if I can do that with just
+</I>&gt;<i> subversion commit privileges or do I need to be able to submit build
+</I>&gt;<i> requests to do this?
+</I>
+To patch, you do not need to submit. But it's good practice to contact
+the maintainer when you do that: IRC is a fast way to do that.
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+Cheers,
+--
+Malo
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+&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> vstar
+</I>
+I just looked at vstar. I have several remarks or comments:
+- there is a typo in the URL
+- Usually it's better not to have a weird downloading script in SOURCES
+for svn revisions, but to put it as a comment in the SPEC file.
+- BTW, why can't you use the stable version instead of the svn release?
+There is a very recent one at
+<A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/projects/vstar/files/2.14.2/">http://sourceforge.net/projects/vstar/files/2.14.2/</A>
+If you use that one, you can just put as Source0 the sourceforge URL to
+the archive
+- your desktop file does not mention an icon, which makes for an blank
+entry in the menu.
+
+If you fix these things, I happy to submit it.
+
+Cheers,
+--
+Malo
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+<PRE>Le 06/01/13 23:03,Joseph Wang nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> nightfall
+</I>
+I just submitted nightfall, but it'll probably fail due to missing
+BuildRequires. Please fix.
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+<PRE>Le 06/01/13 23:03,Joseph Wang nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+&gt;<i> There's a backlog of about 32 packages that I've packaged, but haven't
+</I>&gt;<i> been built since I don't have build privileges, and I'm adding new
+</I>&gt;<i> packages at the rate of five or six a week. I was wondering what can
+</I>&gt;<i> be done to reduce that backlog. If necessary, we can wait until after
+</I>&gt;<i> the release to add them, but there are some packages (mostly games
+</I>&gt;<i> like raceintospace or nice eye candy like virtualmoon) that might be
+</I>&gt;<i> worth getting into Mageia 3.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> quantlib
+</I>&gt;<i> gretl
+</I>&gt;<i> python-pyp2rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> leocad
+</I>&gt;<i> leocad-data
+</I>&gt;<i> python-cgen
+</I>&gt;<i> python-codepy
+</I>&gt;<i> python-opencl
+</I>&gt;<i> python-opengl-demo
+</I>&gt;<i> python-pip
+</I>&gt;<i> python-py
+</I>&gt;<i> python-test
+</I>&gt;<i> python-tools
+</I>&gt;<i> nightfall
+</I>&gt;<i> vstar
+</I>&gt;<i> python-h5py
+</I>&gt;<i> cython
+</I>&gt;<i> python-yt
+</I>&gt;<i> vassal
+</I>&gt;<i> virtualmoon
+</I>&gt;<i> virtualmoon-data
+</I>&gt;<i> python-flexmock
+</I>&gt;<i> python-atpy
+</I>&gt;<i> python-aplpy
+</I>&gt;<i> python-cosmocalc
+</I>&gt;<i> python-voeventlib
+</I>&gt;<i> raceintospace
+</I>&gt;<i> cinnamon (update, not for mageia 3)
+</I>&gt;<i> plplot (update)
+</I>&gt;<i> golly
+</I>&gt;<i> aladin
+</I>&gt;<i> vtk
+</I>
+Finally, I saw that several of these packages were imported from Fedora.
+That's great, but it's good practice to clean a bit the spec of these
+packages after import. We have some slightly different policy (like no
+%clean section, ... etc).
+Thanks for your packages,
+--
+Malo
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+Happy new year to the Mageia community.
+
+Jose Jorge said on Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 08:12:08PM +0200:
+
+&gt;<i> Le 24/10/2012 16:15, Bruno Cornec a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Example, no auto_inst wiki page for Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;I can copy paste some of the previous content, but as I'm not developing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;that, I don't know what is accurate or not for Mageia 2 e.g.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Would be great if anyone more legitimate to work on this would do it.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Feel free to add it to the Wiki : it is always good to have a
+</I>&gt;<i> starting point.
+</I>
+Ok so it's now available at <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Auto_inst">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Auto_inst</A> with an
+addition and s/Mandriva/Mageia/ done.
+
+I hope that the auto_inst maintainers will e able to ad/fix/maintain
+content as they make changes to the tool.
+
+Bruno.
+--
+Open Source &amp; Linux Profession Lead EMEA <A HREF="http://opensource.hp.com">http://opensource.hp.com</A>
+EMEA Open Source HPISC Chief Technologist <A HREF="http://hpintelco.net">http://hpintelco.net</A>
+FLOSS projects: <A HREF="http://mondorescue.org">http://mondorescue.org</A> <A HREF="http://project-builder.org">http://project-builder.org</A>
+Musique ancienne? <A HREF="http://www.musique-ancienne.org">http://www.musique-ancienne.org</A> <A HREF="http://www.medieval.org">http://www.medieval.org</A>
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+&gt;<i> i had this in my chrooted installs, but since /proc was mounted there, i
+</I>&gt;<i> figured it was a minor chrooted error only. i guess not.
+</I>
+Thanks for a quick reply!
+
+Now that we know there is a problem, what would be the best way to fix it?
+If I boot using Mageia rescue disk, I can't query/install any RPM
+package on my PC using &quot;rpm --root=/mnt ...&quot;. RPM database on hard
+disk is version 4.10, while RPM on Live CD is 4.9.x.
+
+Any help is greatly appreciated!
+
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+Regards,
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+&gt;<i> This patch seems to fix it
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=installwatch-glibc_minor.patch&amp;package=checkinstall&amp;project=openSUSE%3AFactory">https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=installwatch-glibc_minor.patch&amp;package=checkinstall&amp;project=openSUSE%3AFactory</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> but I didn't try to build with it
+</I>
+I did before starting this thread, and it doesn't fix it ...
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+<PRE>On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Johnny A. Solbu &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cooker at solbu.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sunday 6. January 2013 23.11, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This patch seems to fix it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=installwatch-glibc_minor.patch&amp;package=checkinstall&amp;project=openSUSE%3AFactory">https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=installwatch-glibc_minor.patch&amp;package=checkinstall&amp;project=openSUSE%3AFactory</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but I didn't try to build with it
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I did before starting this thread, and it doesn't fix it ...
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+<PRE>On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 10:04 PM, David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s abiword-docs
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (abiword-docs): nobody
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> should be 2.9.4 like abiword, rosa has it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It doesn't build and didn't seem obvious to fix when I tried last month
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> When I try to build it on my server over ssh I get:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> abiword --to=html --to-name=&quot;dialogchangecase.html&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --exp-props=&quot;html4: no; use-awml: no; embed-css: yes;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> embed-images:yes&quot; &quot;dialogchangecase.abw&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> libGL error: failed to load driver: i965
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> libGL error: Try again with LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose for more details.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> make[3]: *** [dialogchangecase.html] Aborted
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> With LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose it gave the following errors and I gave up.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> abiword --to=html --to-name=&quot;dialogchangecase.html&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --exp-props=&quot;html4: no; use-awml: no; embed-css: yes;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> embed-images:yes&quot; &quot;dialogchangecase.abw&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib64/dri/i965_dri.so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> libGL error: failed to open drm device: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> libGL error: failed to load driver: i965
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib64/dri/swrast_dri.so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> libGL: Can't open configuration file /home/pterjan/.drirc: No such
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> file or directory.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> libGL: Can't open configuration file /home/pterjan/.drirc: No such
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> file or directory.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> make[3]: *** [dialogchangecase.html] Aborted
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (Also, my server has Matrox hardware and my laptop has nvidia, so I
+</I>&gt;<i> have no idea what in abiword is trying to load something related to
+</I>&gt;<i> i965 to convert this specific document)
+</I>
+Ah I found how ROSA managed to have it...
+<A HREF="https://abf.rosalinux.ru/import/abiword-docs/diff/4067ca06836d3467b289fcf782ac1c11339f4953...2a4ec202096131d10371d83922f9e49487ab480a#diff-1">https://abf.rosalinux.ru/import/abiword-docs/diff/4067ca06836d3467b289fcf782ac1c11339f4953...2a4ec202096131d10371d83922f9e49487ab480a#diff-1</A>
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+&gt;<i> just tried and it worked so I uploaded it
+</I>
+Hmm. Indeed it does. And now I see what you did; you replaced patch3. I didn't think of that.
+Nice. Thank you. :-)=
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+&gt;<i> I hope that the auto_inst maintainers will be able to adid/fix/maintain
+</I>&gt;<i> content as they make changes to the tool.
+</I>
+And also fix the minimal install issue I still have with mga2 for now.
+More details of what I'm trying to do at
+<A HREF="http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/a-mageia-based-firewall-with-auto_inst-and-lots-of-other-stuff-like-chrooted-squid/">http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/a-mageia-based-firewall-with-auto_inst-and-lots-of-other-stuff-like-chrooted-squid/</A>
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+<PRE>Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sunday 6. January 2013 11.57, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In spec file.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This ensures we end with both obsoletes &amp; provides tags
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The reason I didn't do that, is that I think it might not obsolete te current version, as the &#171;replacement package&#187; have an &#171;older&#187; vversion
+</I>number than te one being obsoleted.
+&gt;<i> Specifically, rp-pppoe-plugin have version 3.10, but ppp-pppoe that's replacing it have version 2.4.5. So the %rename tag will not even
+</I>obsolete a 12 year old package. (rp-pppoe v2.5 was released in 2000)
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That is how I've understood the %rename tag.
+</I>&gt;<i> So the way I see it, I should just add a Provides tag.
+</I>
+You are correct. %rename is usually just used when you're renaming a subpackage within one SRPM or renaming an entire SRPM. It can't be used
+against something that has a different version, as was the case here. Manually adding the Provides was the correct solution.
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+<PRE>Pascal Terjan wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 10:04 PM, David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s abiword-docs
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (abiword-docs): nobody
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> should be 2.9.4 like abiword, rosa has it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It doesn't build and didn't seem obvious to fix when I tried last month
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> When I try to build it on my server over ssh I get:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> abiword --to=html --to-name=&quot;dialogchangecase.html&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --exp-props=&quot;html4: no; use-awml: no; embed-css: yes;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> embed-images:yes&quot; &quot;dialogchangecase.abw&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libGL error: failed to load driver: i965
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libGL error: Try again with LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose for more details.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> make[3]: *** [dialogchangecase.html] Aborted
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> With LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose it gave the following errors and I gave up.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> abiword --to=html --to-name=&quot;dialogchangecase.html&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --exp-props=&quot;html4: no; use-awml: no; embed-css: yes;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> embed-images:yes&quot; &quot;dialogchangecase.abw&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib64/dri/i965_dri.so
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libGL error: failed to open drm device: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libGL error: failed to load driver: i965
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib64/dri/swrast_dri.so
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libGL: Can't open configuration file /home/pterjan/.drirc: No such
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> file or directory.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libGL: Can't open configuration file /home/pterjan/.drirc: No such
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> file or directory.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> make[3]: *** [dialogchangecase.html] Aborted
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (Also, my server has Matrox hardware and my laptop has nvidia, so I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have no idea what in abiword is trying to load something related to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i965 to convert this specific document)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ah I found how ROSA managed to have it...
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://abf.rosalinux.ru/import/abiword-">https://abf.rosalinux.ru/import/abiword-</A>
+</I>docs/diff/4067ca06836d3467b289fcf782ac1c11339f4953...2a4ec202096131d10371d83922f9e49487ab480a#diff-1
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+When you look at ROSA stuff in <A HREF="https://abf.rosalinux.ru/import/">https://abf.rosalinux.ru/import/</A> make sure you check the rosa2012.1 branch to see the latest stuff, as master
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+&gt;<i> Thanks David.
+</I>
+You're welcome. It was a lot of work, so I hope it's helpful. I see it's spurred quite a bit of activity already, so that's good :o)
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+&gt;<i> &gt; Pls take the Gentoo version with a grain of salt. Yaml version 1.0.4 is till the current at upstream.
+</I>
+Yes, looking at other packages not on these lists, I've seen several cases of gentoo versions that don't actually exist upstream (dash and less
+come to mind), as well as times where they add an extra .something to the end of the version that shouldn't be there. For these particular
+lists, I tried to not put things in there if they were obviously development or snapshot versions, but I didn't examine all of them closely, so
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+ <B>Felix Miata</B>
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+<PRE>What is upstream for df command? In openSUSE 12.2, Cauldron &amp; F18 on the same 64 bit system, df on the only partition on my 1TB data HD is obviously lying as to usage and free on a nearly full EXT2
+partition:
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+# df # before copy
+Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
+/dev/sdb1 968990412 942397904 26592508 98% /disks/esata
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+-rw-rw-r-- 1 5548561312 Jan 6 14:59 monk0714IonE-201301061400s2.ts
+-rw-rw-r-- 1 5548200540 Jan 6 15:59 monk0715IonE-201301061500s2.ts
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+-rw-rw-r-- 1 5547738436 Jan 6 19:59 monk0803IonE-201301061900s2.ts
+-rw-rw-r-- 1 5548427644 Jan 6 20:59 monk0804IonE-201301062000s2.ts
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+# df # after copying above 37,925,705K bytes in 7 files to
+# # /disks/esata from another system on the network
+Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
+/dev/sdb1 968990412 942397904 26592508 98% /disks/esata
+
+Unless this is a bug in df, how is this lack of info possible given the following filesystem info (e.g., no reserved blocks, and no journal) about the partition?
+
+tune2fs 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012)
+Filesystem volume name: full1TazboxWD
+Last mounted on: /disks/esata
+Filesystem UUID: 6a2c01da-93cd-4f99-99b1-d369d4ff0eca
+Filesystem magic number: 0xEF53
+Filesystem revision #: 1 (dynamic)
+Filesystem features: ext_attr resize_inode dir_index filetype sparse_super large_file
+Filesystem flags: signed_directory_hash
+Default mount options: (none)
+Filesystem state: clean
+Errors behavior: Continue
+Filesystem OS type: Linux
+Inode count: 61054976
+Block count: 244189952
+Reserved block count: 0
+Free blocks: 6648127
+Free inodes: 61054448
+First block: 0
+Block size: 4096
+Fragment size: 4096
+Reserved GDT blocks: 965
+Blocks per group: 32768
+Fragments per group: 32768
+Inodes per group: 8192
+Inode blocks per group: 256
+Filesystem created: Fri Jun 22 00:20:53 2012
+Last mount time: Sun Jan 6 22:56:27 2013
+Last write time: Mon Jan 7 01:18:02 2013
+Mount count: 8
+Maximum mount count: -1
+Last checked: Tue Jul 31 00:00:02 2012
+Check interval: 0 (&lt;none&gt;)
+Lifetime writes: 899 GB
+Reserved blocks uid: 0 (user root)
+Reserved blocks gid: 0 (group root)
+First inode: 11
+Inode size: 128
+Default directory hash: half_md4
+Directory Hash Seed: 9c9136f6-5dac-4152-aa29-6e1d33712a3b
+--
+&quot;The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
+words are persuasive.&quot; Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
+
+ Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
+
+Felix Miata *** <A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/">http://fm.no-ip.com/</A>
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now that we know there is a problem, what would be the best way to fix it?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I encountered the same bug and reported it:
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+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8614">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8614</A>
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+The problem appears to be related to the util-linux packages which results
+in bad initrds whenever something triggers them to be rebuilt. I was able to
+boot the Beta1 DVD into the Rescue System, mount the installation and
+modify /boot/grub/menu.lst to specify the initrd-*.old file to get the
+system
+booting again. After that, see the bug report for which 4 packages to revert
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+ <B>Donald Stewart</B>
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+<PRE>On 6 January 2013 16:10, Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 05:49:08PM +0100, AL13N wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 9. qtwebkit requires gnome-keyring
+</I>&gt;<i> [..]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 9. qtwebkit requires soup, requires lib64gnome-keyring, suggests gnome-keyring
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;From libsoup 2.41.3
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> | * BUILD DEPENDENCY CHANGES: libsoup-gnome no longer depends on
+</I>&gt;<i> | libgnome-keyring, and the sqlite3 dependency has been
+</I>&gt;<i> | moved from libsoup-gnome to libsoup proper. (See
+</I>&gt;<i> | below).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That is GNOME 3.8 material, Mageia 3 will have 3.6. Anything using
+</I>&gt;<i> libgnome-keyring should use libsecret instead. Anything from
+</I>&gt;<i> 'ftp.gnome.org' should eventually be migrated. Some stuff already has,
+</I>&gt;<i> some is still on a todo.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Olav
+</I>
+I can confirm 4 - hugin still requires make for its stiching.
+
+As for gwenview, leaving the kipi plugins as a suggest is a must, the
+functionality that they add is huge.
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+ <B>Liam R E Quin</B>
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+<PRE>Tried installing 3.0 beta over a Mandriva Cooker system today.
+Mageia-3-beta1-x86_64-DVD.iso
+
+Some notes. Mostly about problems because I never got to see a working
+system, so the tone is probably more negative than I'd like.
+
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+On boot, there was a long delay followed by &quot;Loading program&quot; and a
+progress bar appearing and disappearing again almost before I had time
+to read the message. This didn't seem optimal.
+
+Choice of keyboard - there was a link to wikipedia in the Help text, but
+it gave me an error that there was no network. There are two entries for
+US Keyboard with no obvious reason, and a third for US International
+(which I chose since I'm not in the US :-))
+
+I have 2 disk drives. the installer wanted to use the spare space on my
+Windows drive, when the other drive already had Linux. Yes, I could
+choose from the drop-down, but it wasn't clear that I was choosing where
+to put Mageia. Suggest add,
+Multiple disk drives found. Choose which one you want to use for the
+main Mageia system.
+
+The disk was formatted. That was actually what I wanted, in this case,
+but please add a warning that data will be lost - most humans on the
+planet won't know that.
+
+There's no indication of how long the formatting will take, or how much
+has been done. I'll leave it running for an hour or two (it's a 250G
+SATA hard drive) and see if it finishes, or maybe it crashed.
+Please add a note that this may take a long time, preferably with an
+OK/Cancel/Skip since (1) it wasn't needed here, and (2) users may well
+give it a minute or so and then move on to the next Linux distribution
+on the magazine, saying &quot;Mageia hung my computer, it's crap.&quot;
+
+Suggest progress bar or at least some quotes from Moli&#233;re.
+
+Note: eventually the bad block scan started giving a progress percentage
+on another virtual terminal, but most users won't find that, of course,
+even if they wait half an hour or more for it to begin.
+
+I'm assuming the graphics and ugly font are not final. If they are, the
+pink stripes look like an error. Maybe caused by running my monitor
+(1920x1200/&quot;deep colour&quot;) in 800x600 16-bit mode.
+
+The long list of packages being installed - would be nicer to show the
+name of the current package, and its description, and more slowly to
+show a more detailed description of just one program.
+
+If there was a clear and obvious option to choose the LCD's native
+resolution, a font like Matthew Carter's Bitstream Charter Italic would
+look more sophisticated and also get more information on a line.
+
+Choosing a desktop - help said &quot;broken link&quot;
+
+Choosing a desktop - please add versions, not just KDE, GNOME, Other.
+
+Also, I might want both KDE and GNOME installed, so I don't want to
+choose just one and not the other. If I'll get a chance to install more
+desktops later in the installer, please say so more clearly, not buried
+in help (once the link to help is fixed)...
+
+The installer seems much slower than it used to be, but maybe that's
+changes in rpm? Three hours to install packages is a long time. Although
+having said that, maybe the estimates were just wrong.
+
+At the end, several hours later, the DVD is ejected and the system tries
+to reboot...
+
+PANIC cannot mount proc on /proc! Compile the kernel with
+CONFIG_PROC_FS!
+
+Hmm. Well, I saw something go by about this on the mailing list so maybe
+I can fix it without another 7-hour download of the DVD image.
+
+Overall, though, the installer needs a huge injection of &quot;slickness&quot;.
+It's_almost_ there, but in graphic design &quot;almost&quot; doesn't get you a
+cigar.
+
+Liam
+
+
+
+--
+Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, <A HREF="http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/">http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/</A>
+Pictures from old books: <A HREF="http://fromoldbooks.org/">http://fromoldbooks.org/</A>
+Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org freenode/#xml
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+<PRE>On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 2:02 AM, Juan Luis Baptiste &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">juancho at mageia.org</A>&gt;wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> Got it working with:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> for i in `%{_datadir}/warsow/basewsw/*`;
+</I>&gt;<i> do
+</I>&gt;<i> file=`basename $i`
+</I>&gt;<i> ln -sf $i %{gamelibdir}/basewsw/$file
+</I>&gt;<i> done
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The game name in the for loop was wrong.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Well, it worked on x86_64, but on i586 the symlinks are created under
+/usr/lib64/games/warsow/basewsw instead of /usr/lib/games/warsow/basewsw
+but I don't understand why, it seems that for some reason, the %{_libdir}
+macro is expanding to /usr/lib64 on the BS. This is the spec if someone
+wants to take a look:
+
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/warsow-data/current/SPECS/warsow-data.spec?revision=338836&amp;view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/warsow-data/current/SPECS/warsow-data.spec?revision=338836&amp;view=markup</A>
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+<PRE>On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> And glibc-2.17-1 and locales-2.17-1 are now built and should soon
+</I>&gt;<i> show up on the mirrors and it should be safe to update then...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>And now on one of my cauldron boxes I can't update glibc, thus blocking the
+rest of updates:
+
+The following package has to be removed for others to be upgraded:
+glibc-2.17-1.mga3.x86_64
+ (in order to install glibc-2.17-1.mga3.x86_64)
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+installing glibc-devel-2.17-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+meta-task-3-22.mga3.noarch.rpm rpm-build-4.11.0-0.beta1.7.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+lib64rpm3-4.11.0-0.beta1.7.mga3.x86_64.rpm
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+python-rpm-4.11.0-0.beta1.7.mga3.x86_64.rpm glibc-2.17-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+from /var/cache/urpmi/rpms
+Preparing...
+###################################################################################################
+Installation failed: package glibc-6:2.17-1.mga3.x86_64 is already
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+ <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 5:04 PM, David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> In honor of the upcoming version freeze in Cauldron (this week according
+</I>&gt;<i> to current planning), I went looking for packages with newer versions
+</I>&gt;<i> available, that are NOT seen by our youri tool, and therefore will not be
+</I>&gt;<i> seen here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/updates.html">http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/updates.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Because of that, some of you may be interested in some of these packages
+</I>&gt;<i> and be unaware that newer versions are available.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I compiled the list over the past two days, and queried the Sophie bot for
+</I>&gt;<i> the maintainers, so they're listed below by the IRC log. Sorry if you're
+</I>&gt;<i> on IRC and got pinged 50 times this weekend :o)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Done mines, thanks for the info :)
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+ <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B>
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+<PRE>On Monday 7. January 2013 09.51, Juan Luis Baptiste wrote:
+&gt;<i> Done mines, thanks for the info :)
+</I>
+As have I. :-)=
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+ <B>Guillaume Rousse</B>
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+<PRE>Le 06/01/2013 23:04, David Walser a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> In honor of the upcoming version freeze in Cauldron (this week according to current planning), I went looking for packages with newer versions available, that are NOT seen by our youri tool, and therefore will not be seen here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/updates.html">http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/updates.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Because of that, some of you may be interested in some of these packages and be unaware that newer versions are available.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I compiled the list over the past two days, and queried the Sophie bot for the maintainers, so they're listed below by the IRC log. Sorry if you're on IRC and got pinged 50 times this weekend :o)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As far as why youri missed these,
+</I>Just because it is not configured to check those data sources... A
+simple parser for directory content would be enough, as for instance the
+Fedora source, before its optimisation to use repodata content:
+<A HREF="http://www.zarb.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/youri/soft/check/branches/0.10/lib/Youri/Check/Test/Updates/Source/Fedora.pm?revision=2359&amp;view=markup">http://www.zarb.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/youri/soft/check/branches/0.10/lib/Youri/Check/Test/Updates/Source/Fedora.pm?revision=2359&amp;view=markup</A>
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+BTW, the software refered to is 'youri-check', not 'youri'...
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+BOFH excuse #76:
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+I have a question from i18n team.
+In our soft svn is a &quot;usbdumper&quot; but we don't knoiw, what to do with it.
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+Is this an &quot;official&quot; Mageia software, that should be translated by i18n
+team or is this just some work i n progress, we can handle with less
+priority?
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+Thanks,
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+Oliver
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+ <I>Mon Jan 7 11:36:07 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>On 06/01/13 19:21, Balcaen John wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Did you try to simply send an email to Luc Menut, Nicolas Lecureuil or me for
+</I>&gt;<i> that purpose ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>No, but here is a list.
+Maybe some are fixed in svn, but have not been pushed - I don't have
+time to check just now.
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+k4guitune
+konvertible
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+<PRE>Le 04/01/2013 17:16, Damien Lallement a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 04/01/2013 16:50, oden a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Name : iozone Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Version : 3.414 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Release : 1.mga3 Build Date: Fri Jan 4
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 16:49:26 2013
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: jonund.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Group : System/Kernel and hardware Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Size : 1843391 License: BSD-like
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Signature : (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Packager : oden &lt;oden&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> URL : <A HREF="http://www.iozone.org/">http://www.iozone.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Summary : Iozone Filesystem Benchmark
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> IOzone is a filesystem benchmark tool. The benchmark generates and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> measures a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> variety of file operations. Iozone has been ported to many machines
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and runs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> under many operating systems.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Iozone is useful for performing a broad filesystem analysis of a vendors
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> computer platform. The benchmark tests file I/O performance for the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> following
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> operations: Read, write, re-read, re-write, read backwards, read strided,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fread, fwrite, random read, pread ,mmap, aio_read, aio_write.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> oden &lt;oden&gt; 3.414-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 338711
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - imported package iozone
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/iozone3/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/iozone3/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, was there.
+</I>
+Oden? Ping. :-)
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Juan Luis Baptiste at 07/01/13 08:00 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 2:02 AM, Juan Luis Baptiste &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">juancho at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">juancho at mageia.org</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Got it working with:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> for i in `%{_datadir}/warsow/basewsw/*`;
+</I>&gt;<i> do
+</I>&gt;<i> file=`basename $i`
+</I>&gt;<i> ln -sf $i %{gamelibdir}/basewsw/$file
+</I>&gt;<i> done
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The game name in the for loop was wrong.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, it worked on x86_64, but on i586 the symlinks are created under
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/lib64/games/warsow/basewsw instead of /usr/lib/games/warsow/basewsw
+</I>&gt;<i> but I don't understand why, it seems that for some reason, the
+</I>&gt;<i> %{_libdir} macro is expanding to /usr/lib64 on the BS. This is the spec
+</I>&gt;<i> if someone wants to take a look:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/warsow-data/current/SPECS/warsow-data.spec?revision=338836&amp;view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/warsow-data/current/SPECS/warsow-data.spec?revision=338836&amp;view=markup</A>
+</I>
+%_libdir expands to the given architecture's libdir. On i586 it's
+/usr/lib, on x86_64 it's /usr/lib64.
+
+Looking at the spec, I think you're doing it a bit wrong.
+
+It's in the %post for a start which is wrong. It should be done as part
+of package build, not install. Doing it during install will mean the
+files are not &quot;owned&quot; by the package so users cannot tell where they
+come from.
+
+You also then do things such as rm -rf on %postun but that doesn't
+actually check whether you are upgrading or removing. Remember that
+%postun is run when upgrading a package too (i.e. when the old version
+is removed).
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+Also as you use %_libdir, your package cannot be noarch.
+
+If you want to use /usr/lib all the time then do so (if that's what the
+game binary expects) via %{_prefix}/lib not via %_libdir.
+
+Also your fdupes command seems to do nothing other than display
+duplicate information, not actually resolve anything. So I'd just remove
+it or add appropriate arguments to do hardlinking as needed. Unless this
+package has a particular problem with duplicated data, then I'd just
+kill it off completely.
+
+Hope that gives you some hints.
+
+Col
+
+--
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Felix Miata at 07/01/13 06:40 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> What is upstream for df command?
+</I>
+rpm -qf `which df`
+coreutils-8.20-1.mga3
+
+So <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/">http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/</A> I guess.
+
+&gt;<i> In openSUSE 12.2, Cauldron &amp; F18 on the
+</I>&gt;<i> same 64 bit system, df on the only partition on my 1TB data HD is
+</I>&gt;<i> obviously lying as to usage and free on a nearly full EXT2 partition:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> # df # before copy
+</I>&gt;<i> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sdb1 968990412 942397904 26592508 98% /disks/esata
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -rw-rw-r-- 1 5548561312 Jan 6 14:59 monk0714IonE-201301061400s2.ts
+</I>&gt;<i> -rw-rw-r-- 1 5548200540 Jan 6 15:59 monk0715IonE-201301061500s2.ts
+</I>&gt;<i> -rw-rw-r-- 1 5548657192 Jan 6 16:59 monk0716IonE-201301061600s2.ts
+</I>&gt;<i> -rw-rw-r-- 1 5547676772 Jan 6 17:59 monk0801IonE-201301061700s2.ts
+</I>&gt;<i> -rw-rw-r-- 1 5546660256 Jan 6 18:59 monk0802IonE-201301061800s2.ts
+</I>&gt;<i> -rw-rw-r-- 1 5547738436 Jan 6 19:59 monk0803IonE-201301061900s2.ts
+</I>&gt;<i> -rw-rw-r-- 1 5548427644 Jan 6 20:59 monk0804IonE-201301062000s2.ts
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> # df # after copying above 37,925,705K bytes in 7 files to
+</I>&gt;<i> # # /disks/esata from another system on the network
+</I>&gt;<i> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sdb1 968990412 942397904 26592508 98% /disks/esata
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Unless this is a bug in df, how is this lack of info possible given the
+</I>&gt;<i> following filesystem info (e.g., no reserved blocks, and no journal)
+</I>&gt;<i> about the partition?
+</I>
+Could be a kernel issue I guess. I dunno. Perhaps Thomas will know?
+
+Col
+
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+--
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+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+
+Envoy&#233; depuis un mobile Samsung
+
+-------- Message d'origine --------
+De : Barry Jackson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">zen25000 at zen.co.uk</A>&gt;
+Date :
+A : Mageia development mailing-list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Objet : Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 2 (Reposted in new thread)
+
+On 06/01/13 19:21, Balcaen John wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Did you try to simply send an email to Luc Menut, Nicolas Lecureuil or me for
+</I>&gt;<i> that purpose ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>No, but here is a list.
+Maybe some are fixed in svn, but have not been pushed - I don't have
+time to check just now.
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+k4guitune
+konvertible
+kradio
+basket
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+ <B>Olivier Thauvin</B>
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+ <I>Mon Jan 7 12:18:05 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+We use PXE to install computers, it works very fine for Mageia 2 but it
+failed with Cauldron with same parameters:
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+LABEL manual64bits
+ KERNEL <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/2/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/vmlinuz">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/2/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/vmlinuz</A>
+ APPEND initrd=<A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/2/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/all.rdz">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/2/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/all.rdz</A> automatic=method:http,ser:distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr,dir:/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/2/x86_64/,int:eth0,netw:dhcp vga=788
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+and for cauldron:
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+LABEL manual64bits
+ KERNEL <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/vmlinuz">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/vmlinuz</A>
+ APPEND initrd=<A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/all.rdz">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/all.rdz</A> automatic=method:http,ser:distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr,dir:/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/,int:eth0,netw:dhcp vga=788
+
+I can see the end of kernel messages but I cannot see the first
+message...
+
+Any idea ?
+
+--
+
+Olivier Thauvin
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+<PRE>Hello again,
+
+I just buy a wonderfull HP ENVY23 smartscreen.
+
+It has:
+- Windows 8 (I'd like to keep it)
+- GPT Formated disk (2T)
+- UEFI
+- SecureBoot
+
+I am trying to install a Mageia on it:
+I disabled secure boot.
+I succeed to boot using PXE (using legacy boot) and to install mageia2,
+but it failed to boot on Mageia using legacy boot.
+
+So questions:
+- is it possible to boot Mageia using legacy boot on GPT disk ?
+- is it possible to boot Mageia using UEFI ?
+
+Regards.
+
+--
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and AL13N at 04/01/13 16:49 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 2. pulseaudio suggests it's i586 counterparts (plz don't)
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. in spec file, requested for closed source 3rd party binaries that
+</I>are 32bit
+
+This is expected. As several people install third party 32-bit apps that
+use Audio (e.g. Skype) we suggest that people have the 32-bit alsa libs,
+pulse plugin and pulse libraries even on 64 bit installs.
+
+So either we suggest this or I have to deal with loads of bug reports
+about why it doesn't work. I prefer the current solution (after
+suffering the pain of the other option over the years).
+
+&gt;<i> 3. qtwebkit requires gstreamer (not phonon)
+</I>
+Does qtwebkit use phonon these days? I think it used to use gstreamer
+directly, but no clue about the current status quo.
+
+&gt;<i> 5. hugin directly requires make... why would a gui require a buildtool?
+</I>
+hugin is a bit special tho'. It generates jobs and runs them. Perhaps
+make is an integral part of this? I don't know specifically. Maybe it
+used to be many years ago but isn't needed now? Dunno, but having used
+hugin a bit, it's not super surprising to me to see this here.
+
+&gt;<i> 6. kipi-plugins suggested by gwenview
+</I>&gt;<i> 6. gwenview really uses all kipi-plugins?
+</I>
+Isn't gwenview a kipi-host? It used to be... As such users should be
+able to access all the kipi functionality from within gwenview.
+
+It's not so much that gwenview uses them, but the users of gwenview who
+may want to use them...
+
+
+On the others I have no clue :)
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Olivier Thauvin
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello again,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just buy a wonderfull HP ENVY23 smartscreen.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It has:
+</I>&gt;<i> - Windows 8 (I'd like to keep it)
+</I>&gt;<i> - GPT Formated disk (2T)
+</I>&gt;<i> - UEFI
+</I>&gt;<i> - SecureBoot
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am trying to install a Mageia on it:
+</I>&gt;<i> I disabled secure boot.
+</I>&gt;<i> I succeed to boot using PXE (using legacy boot) and to install mageia2,
+</I>&gt;<i> but it failed to boot on Mageia using legacy boot.
+</I>
+Do you know how it fails?
+
+&gt;<i> So questions:
+</I>&gt;<i> - is it possible to boot Mageia using legacy boot on GPT disk ?
+</I>
+Yes (using grub, not lilo)
+
+&gt;<i> - is it possible to boot Mageia using UEFI ?
+</I>
+I think so but I have never tried. I remember someone reporting success.
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+ <I>Mon Jan 7 12:50:02 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>On 07/01/13 11:36, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Olivier Thauvin
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello again,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I just buy a wonderfull HP ENVY23 smartscreen.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It has:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Windows 8 (I'd like to keep it)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - GPT Formated disk (2T)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - UEFI
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - SecureBoot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I am trying to install a Mageia on it:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I disabled secure boot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I succeed to boot using PXE (using legacy boot) and to install mageia2,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but it failed to boot on Mageia using legacy boot.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you know how it fails?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So questions:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - is it possible to boot Mageia using legacy boot on GPT disk ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes (using grub, not lilo)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - is it possible to boot Mageia using UEFI ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think so but I have never tried. I remember someone reporting success.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+The grub2-efi package in Cauldron has a README.efi file that may be
+useful. (Note efibootmgr package referred to is also in Cauldron)
+The author of that README file has been using Mageia with grub2-efi on a
+Mac for some time now.
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+I just updated rootcerts package on my cauldron box and got about 50 ish
+.rpmnew files for changed pem files.
+
+It seems mostly indentation changes (*sigh*) but it made me think - Are
+these really config files? I'd expect these to not be marked as config
+even if they are kept in /etc/ Ideally I'd rather see them kept in
+/usr/share anyway as that seems more appropriate, but that's likely not
+possible without causing a lot of pain.
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>In our soft svn we have
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+mageia-gfxboot-theme help-boot and help-install.
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+Are those leftovers from the old documnetation, before the work using
+calenco started or are those actually used?
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+We should know at i18n.
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+Thanks,
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+Oliver
+
+--
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+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20rootcerts%3A%20Are%20the%20certs%20really%20%22config%22%20files%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C50EABDE0.6010904%40eesti.ee%3E"
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+<PRE>07.01.2013 13:51, Colin Guthrie kirjutas:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just updated rootcerts package on my cauldron box and got about 50 ish
+</I>&gt;<i> .rpmnew files for changed pem files.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems mostly indentation changes (*sigh*) but it made me think - Are
+</I>&gt;<i> these really config files? I'd expect these to not be marked as config
+</I>&gt;<i> even if they are kept in /etc/ Ideally I'd rather see them kept in
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/share anyway as that seems more appropriate, but that's likely not
+</I>&gt;<i> possible without causing a lot of pain.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I fully agree. Certs are quite far from config files. And I even see
+some possible trouble here. If some cert is updated and the user gets it
+as .rpmnew file and is noob enough to not notice it then (s)he will be
+using wrong cert..
+
+--
+Sander
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+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20rootcerts%3A%20Are%20the%20certs%20really%20%22config%22%20files%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201301071334.07358.cooker%40solbu.net%3E"
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+ <I>Mon Jan 7 13:34:03 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>On Monday 7. January 2013 12.51, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+&gt;<i> Are these really config files?
+</I>
+What's more, isn't these just noarch files?
+Then why build architecture dependent packages?
+
+--
+Johnny A. Solbu
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+On 07/01/13 12:59, Oliver Burger wrote:
+&gt;<i> In our soft svn we have
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-gfxboot-theme help-boot and help-install.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Are those leftovers from the old documnetation, before the work
+</I>&gt;<i> using calenco started or are those actually used?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We should know at i18n.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+There are at least 2 help buttons in drakx-installer-stage2 that give
+a text that comes from somewhere else than the rest of the help texts.
+
+Documentation team does not touch those texts.
+
+That is (at least):
+
+* the help text that appears when clicking on the help button in the
+Resolution (Choose the resolution and the color depth) screen
+
+* the help text about configuring your sound card
+
+There may be another one in an old doc-discuss mail, I don't remember.
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
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+ <B>Anssi Hannula</B>
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+<PRE>07.01.2013 08:40, Felix Miata kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> What is upstream for df command? In openSUSE 12.2, Cauldron &amp; F18 on the same 64 bit system, df on the only partition on my 1TB data HD is obviously lying as to usage and free on a nearly full EXT2
+</I>&gt;<i> partition:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> # df # before copy
+</I>&gt;<i> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sdb1 968990412 942397904 26592508 98% /disks/esata
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -rw-rw-r-- 1 5548561312 Jan 6 14:59 monk0714IonE-201301061400s2.ts
+</I>&gt;<i> -rw-rw-r-- 1 5548200540 Jan 6 15:59 monk0715IonE-201301061500s2.ts
+</I>&gt;<i> -rw-rw-r-- 1 5548657192 Jan 6 16:59 monk0716IonE-201301061600s2.ts
+</I>&gt;<i> -rw-rw-r-- 1 5547676772 Jan 6 17:59 monk0801IonE-201301061700s2.ts
+</I>&gt;<i> -rw-rw-r-- 1 5546660256 Jan 6 18:59 monk0802IonE-201301061800s2.ts
+</I>&gt;<i> -rw-rw-r-- 1 5547738436 Jan 6 19:59 monk0803IonE-201301061900s2.ts
+</I>&gt;<i> -rw-rw-r-- 1 5548427644 Jan 6 20:59 monk0804IonE-201301062000s2.ts
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> # df # after copying above 37,925,705K bytes in 7 files to
+</I>&gt;<i> # # /disks/esata from another system on the network
+</I>&gt;<i> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sdb1 968990412 942397904 26592508 98% /disks/esata
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Unless this is a bug in df, how is this lack of info possible given the following filesystem info (e.g., no reserved blocks, and no journal) about the partition?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> tune2fs 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012)
+</I>&gt;<i> Filesystem volume name: full1TazboxWD
+</I>&gt;<i> Last mounted on: /disks/esata
+</I>[...]
+&gt;<i> Free blocks: 6648127
+</I>
+This seems to be in line with the above &quot;df&quot; output.
+
+What is the result of &quot;du -sk /disks/esata&quot;?
+It should be approximately same as the number of used 1K-blocks in &quot;df&quot;
+output (968990412).
+
+[...]
+
+--
+Anssi Hannula
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+<PRE>07.01.2013 13:51, Colin Guthrie kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just updated rootcerts package on my cauldron box and got about 50 ish
+</I>&gt;<i> .rpmnew files for changed pem files.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems mostly indentation changes (*sigh*) but it made me think - Are
+</I>&gt;<i> these really config files? I'd expect these to not be marked as config
+</I>&gt;<i> even if they are kept in /etc/ Ideally I'd rather see them kept in
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/share anyway as that seems more appropriate, but that's likely not
+</I>&gt;<i> possible without causing a lot of pain.
+</I>
+Agreed, not config files.
+
+Of course, the appearance of .rpmnew suggests that something has
+modified them in your system - not sure what would've done that.
+
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Booting on GPT + UEFI + Secure Boot...">dirteat at gmail.com
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+<PRE>On 01/07/2013 12:31 PM, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
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+&gt;<i> So questions:
+</I>&gt;<i> - is it possible to boot Mageia using legacy boot on GPT disk ?
+</I>
+
+Yes, was working fine for me with various harddrives of 2T and more (grub)
+
+Cheers,
+Chris.
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+ <B>Olivier Thauvin</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Booting%20on%20GPT%20%2B%20UEFI%20%2B%20Secure%20Boot...&In-Reply-To=%3C20130107134138.GT3243%40virgo.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"
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+<PRE>* Pascal Terjan (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Olivier Thauvin
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello again,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I just buy a wonderfull HP ENVY23 smartscreen.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It has:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Windows 8 (I'd like to keep it)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - GPT Formated disk (2T)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - UEFI
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - SecureBoot
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I am trying to install a Mageia on it:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I disabled secure boot.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I succeed to boot using PXE (using legacy boot) and to install mageia2,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but it failed to boot on Mageia using legacy boot.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you know how it fails?
+</I>
+The &quot;Bios&quot; claim the disk is not bootable and it switch to the next
+device (network card or UEFI/windows 8).
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So questions:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - is it possible to boot Mageia using legacy boot on GPT disk ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes (using grub, not lilo)
+</I>
+It's the case, but it's not working.
+
+I did try in rescue mode to reinstall grub but it failed with &quot;hd0 not
+found&quot;.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - is it possible to boot Mageia using UEFI ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think so but I have never tried. I remember someone reporting success.
+</I>
+I'll seek archives then.
+
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Anssi Hannula at 07/01/13 13:19 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Of course, the appearance of .rpmnew suggests that something has
+</I>&gt;<i> modified them in your system - not sure what would've done that.
+</I>
+Wouldn't:
+ %config(noreplace)
+cause this?
+
+Even if I/something had not changed the original files, doesn't the
+noreplace trigger this behaviour anyway?
+
+Col
+
+--
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+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+Open Source:
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+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] rootcerts: Are the certs really &quot;config&quot; files?">tmb at mageia.org
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+<PRE>Colin Guthrie skrev 7.1.2013 16:05:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Anssi Hannula at 07/01/13 13:19 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Of course, the appearance of .rpmnew suggests that something has
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> modified them in your system - not sure what would've done that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wouldn't:
+</I>&gt;<i> %config(noreplace)
+</I>&gt;<i> cause this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Even if I/something had not changed the original files, doesn't the
+</I>&gt;<i> noreplace trigger this behaviour anyway?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Nope.
+
+noreplace part only triggers if the file installed by previous rpm
+has been altered.
+
+otherwise it will be updated.
+
+--
+Thomas
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:56 PM, AL13N &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i had this in my chrooted installs, but since /proc was mounted there, i
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> figured it was a minor chrooted error only. i guess not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks for a quick reply!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now that we know there is a problem, what would be the best way to fix it?
+</I>&gt;<i> If I boot using Mageia rescue disk, I can't query/install any RPM
+</I>&gt;<i> package on my PC using &quot;rpm --root=/mnt ...&quot;. RPM database on hard
+</I>&gt;<i> disk is version 4.10, while RPM on Live CD is 4.9.x.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any help is greatly appreciated!
+</I>
+wouldn't it be better to chroot into your old system and use urpmi from
+there?
+
+for me, that worked, even if it gave that error
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+<PRE>On Monday, January 07, 2013 01:41:23 AM Juan Luis Baptiste wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And glibc-2.17-1 and locales-2.17-1 are now built and should soon
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; show up on the mirrors and it should be safe to update then...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And now on one of my cauldron boxes I can't update glibc, thus blocking the
+</I>&gt;<i> rest of updates:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The following package has to be removed for others to be upgraded:
+</I>&gt;<i> glibc-2.17-1.mga3.x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i> (in order to install glibc-2.17-1.mga3.x86_64)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> installing glibc-devel-2.17-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> meta-task-3-22.mga3.noarch.rpm rpm-build-4.11.0-0.beta1.7.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64rpm3-4.11.0-0.beta1.7.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm-4.11.0-0.beta1.7.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> python-rpm-4.11.0-0.beta1.7.mga3.x86_64.rpm glibc-2.17-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> from /var/cache/urpmi/rpms
+</I>&gt;<i> Preparing...
+</I>&gt;<i> ###########################################################################
+</I>&gt;<i> ######################## Installation failed: package
+</I>&gt;<i> glibc-6:2.17-1.mga3.x86_64 is already installed
+</I>Try to do a urpmi --replacepkgs glibc
+I had some of these when I upgrade an old mga2 install.
+It did the trick.
+
+--
+Best regards
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+Hi,
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+This bug is about msec, and probably about the code itself. I don't
+find anything in the class that could cause this behaviour.
+If someone can give advice, that would be appreciated.
+
+Thanks guys! :)
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+<PRE>Olivier Thauvin skrev 7.1.2013 15:41:
+&gt;<i> * Pascal Terjan (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Olivier Thauvin
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hello again,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just buy a wonderfull HP ENVY23 smartscreen.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It has:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Windows 8 (I'd like to keep it)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - GPT Formated disk (2T)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - UEFI
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - SecureBoot
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I am trying to install a Mageia on it:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I disabled secure boot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I succeed to boot using PXE (using legacy boot) and to install mageia2,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but it failed to boot on Mageia using legacy boot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do you know how it fails?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The &quot;Bios&quot; claim the disk is not bootable and it switch to the next
+</I>&gt;<i> device (network card or UEFI/windows 8).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+That's because the bootloader installed is not an efi one,
+so it will be ignored.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So questions:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - is it possible to boot Mageia using legacy boot on GPT disk ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes (using grub, not lilo)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's the case, but it's not working.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+The gpt part works, the (u)efi part needs a (u)efi capable bootloader
+installed in ESP partition on the disk (usually mounted as /boot/efi)
+
+On a Windows7 system I used the fedora grub-efi package following this:
+<A HREF="http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/grub_legacy.html">http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/grub_legacy.html</A>
+
+I havent tested if grub2 is capable of booting it...
+
+
+&gt;<i> I did try in rescue mode to reinstall grub but it failed with &quot;hd0 not
+</I>&gt;<i> found&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - is it possible to boot Mageia using UEFI ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think so but I have never tried. I remember someone reporting success.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll seek archives then.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+I have a Win8 system here too wich I have plans to try and get
+all isos to boot in efi mode on and install properly on but
+haven't had time to do much of it yet.
+
+--
+Thomas
+
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+<PRE>On 10/23/2012 02:53 PM, Bruno Cornec wrote:
+&gt;<i> Helo,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm in the process of redeploying automatically my firewall machine,
+</I>&gt;<i> using Mageia. For that I'd like to have a very minimal install.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However, I'm ending up with 580 packages, among them a lot of X11
+</I>&gt;<i> content, whereas I want a text base install only.
+</I>
++1
+I agree with this, we have some &quot;bugs&quot; in package dependencies. Please,
+don't hesitate to report them on bugzilla for the next bugfest!
+
+We should also try to fix them. I reported this one months ago, Colin
+???? :)))
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7960">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7960</A>
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+Cheers,
+Chris.
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+<PRE>Nightfall just got fixed and I'm getting clean i586 builds in iurt.
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+I'll fix up vstar next. Also if you can look at raceintospace next.
+It's a really cool game.
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+Also I made an effort to clean up the fedora packages. Is there
+anything in particular with an issue? I'd also like to fix up rpmlint
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+<PRE>On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 00:32:07 +0100 (CET)
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A> wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Revision: 340431
+</I>&gt;<i> Author: matteo
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: 2013-01-07 00:32:06 +0100 (Mon, 07 Jan 2013)
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message:
+</I>&gt;<i> -----------
+</I>&gt;<i> fixed lib major
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified Paths:
+</I>&gt;<i> --------------
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron/grail/current/SPECS/grail.spec
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified: cauldron/grail/current/SPECS/grail.spec
+</I>&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;<i> --- cauldron/grail/current/SPECS/grail.spec 2013-01-06
+</I>&gt;<i> 23:31:33 UTC (rev 340430) +++
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron/grail/current/SPECS/grail.spec 2013-01-06 23:32:06
+</I>&gt;<i> UTC (rev 340431) @@ -1,11 +1,11 @@ -%define
+</I>&gt;<i> _major 5 +%define _major
+</I>&gt;<i> 6 %define _name grail
+</I>&gt;<i> %define libname %mklibname %{_name}
+</I>&gt;<i> %{_major} %define devname %mklibname -d
+</I>&gt;<i> %{_name}
+</I>&gt;<i> Name: %_name
+</I>&gt;<i> Version: 3.0.9
+</I>&gt;<i> -Release: %mkrel 1
+</I>&gt;<i> +Release: %mkrel 2
+</I>&gt;<i> License: GPLv3
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary: Gesture Recognition And Instantiation Library
+</I>&gt;<i> Group: Development/Other
+</I>
+You should add a &quot;%{major} check&quot; to %files section of the lib pkg.
+(Use %{major} in file names).
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+It catches %{major} changes and build fails if %{major} versions
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+<PRE>2013/1/7 Yuri Chornoivan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">yurchor at ukr.net</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> &#1085;&#1072;&#1087;&#1080;&#1089;&#1072;&#1085;&#1077; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:05:04 +0200, Yuri Chornoivan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">yurchor at ukr.net</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#1085;&#1072;&#1087;&#1080;&#1089;&#1072;&#1085;&#1077; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 16:29:28 +0200, Marek Laane &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bald at smail.ee</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just about a week to go to the freezing and I remembered one nasty
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> problem.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There is a not-working button in Network Center called Monitor. The
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> reason
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> is simple - net_monitor is not installed by default (at least it was not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> my case).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And the second problem is that when you install net_monitor it is still
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> all
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in English. I'm even not sure if it possible at all to translate
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> net_monitor for now.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Surely untranslated tool is nothing we do want? And also not-working
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> button
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in Network Center?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Marek Laane,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Estonian translator
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The code is on github [1], ready for translation. But its developer is no
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> longer with us... To the great regrets. Rest in peace Eugeni.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If the developers of Mageia can copy the code somewhere and add
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> extraction scripts we can translate net_monitor. If not... Well, it was
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> never translated.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Best regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yuri
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [1] <A HREF="https://github.com/eugeni/net_**monitor&lt;https://github.com/eugeni/net_monitor">https://github.com/eugeni/net_**monitor&lt;https://github.com/eugeni/net_monitor</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just in case that someone is interested, attached is the extraction script
+</I>&gt;<i> and POT gettext catalog for the current code.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can someone from packagers side help us to translate net_monitor?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks in advance for your answers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Yuri
+</I>
+
+If I'm not mistaken, in fact there was and still is drakx-net's &quot;native&quot;
+code for net monitor (
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/drakx-net/trunk/bin/net_monitor?revision=3607&amp;view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/drakx-net/trunk/bin/net_monitor?revision=3607&amp;view=markup</A>)
+which should be also translated but just is not used after Eugeni developed
+more modern net monitor ... As a no-coder I'm not sure if it is possible
+but about not-working button - maybe there is a possibility to use old code
+and it's translation if package net_monitor is not installed (it appears to
+be by default not installed)?
+(I CC to dev-list as probably a dedicated developer is needed to resolve
+our problems ...)
+
+Marek Laane,
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 07/01/13 14:15 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie skrev 7.1.2013 16:05:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Anssi Hannula at 07/01/13 13:19 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Of course, the appearance of .rpmnew suggests that something has
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> modified them in your system - not sure what would've done that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Wouldn't:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %config(noreplace)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cause this?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Even if I/something had not changed the original files, doesn't the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> noreplace trigger this behaviour anyway?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nope.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> noreplace part only triggers if the file installed by previous rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> has been altered.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> otherwise it will be updated.
+</I>
+Hmm, somewhat worrying then... Wonder how mine got changed :s
+
+Col
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
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+Open Source:
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+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 07/01/13 11:51 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just updated rootcerts package on my cauldron box and got about 50 ish
+</I>&gt;<i> .rpmnew files for changed pem files.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems mostly indentation changes (*sigh*) but it made me think - Are
+</I>&gt;<i> these really config files? I'd expect these to not be marked as config
+</I>&gt;<i> even if they are kept in /etc/ Ideally I'd rather see them kept in
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/share anyway as that seems more appropriate, but that's likely not
+</I>&gt;<i> possible without causing a lot of pain.
+</I>
+
+Just for completeness, I started this thread over on systemd ML which
+talked about a &quot;CoreOS&quot; goal of being able to boot with an empty /etc
+
+<A HREF="http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.systemd.devel/7908">http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.systemd.devel/7908</A>
+
+I've been slowly trying to push this anyway (i.e. moving all shipped
+udev rules and tmpfiles to /usr) but there is a long, long way to go
+here to get this fully working (and a crap-load of packages to fix up in
+this regards so it won't really happen anytime soon).
+
+Still, it would make running a chrooted/multi-root/shared-/usr system
+much more manageable and I think it's something we should all keep in
+mind as we package and develop things :)
+
+Happy hacking.
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+Open Source:
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+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>* Thomas Backlund (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> Olivier Thauvin skrev 7.1.2013 15:41:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;* Pascal Terjan (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Olivier Thauvin
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;Do you know how it fails?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;The &quot;Bios&quot; claim the disk is not bootable and it switch to the next
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;device (network card or UEFI/windows 8).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's because the bootloader installed is not an efi one,
+</I>&gt;<i> so it will be ignored.
+</I>
+I found the key of the issue: grub has not install because block number
+is to big (my /boot is at 1,6TB from the start of the disk).
+
+Regards.
+
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+On 07/01/2013 16:40, Jani V&#228;limaa wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 00:32:07 +0100 (CET) <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Revision: 340431 Author: matteo Date: 2013-01-07 00:32:06
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +0100 (Mon, 07 Jan 2013) Log Message: ----------- fixed lib
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> major
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Modified Paths: --------------
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cauldron/grail/current/SPECS/grail.spec
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Modified: cauldron/grail/current/SPECS/grail.spec
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>- --- cauldron/grail/current/SPECS/grail.spec 2013-01-06
+&gt;&gt;<i> 23:31:33 UTC (rev 340430) +++
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cauldron/grail/current/SPECS/grail.spec 2013-01-06 23:32:06 UTC
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (rev 340431) @@ -1,11 +1,11 @@ -%define _major 5 +%define
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _major 6 %define _name grail %define libname %mklibname
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %{_name} %{_major} %define devname %mklibname -d %{_name} Name:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %_name Version: 3.0.9 -Release: %mkrel 1 +Release: %mkrel 2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> License: GPLv3 Summary: Gesture Recognition And Instantiation
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Library Group: Development/Other
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You should add a &quot;%{major} check&quot; to %files section of the lib
+</I>&gt;<i> pkg. (Use %{major} in file names).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Definitely yes, thank you for the tip.
+&gt;<i> It catches %{major} changes and build fails if %{major} versions
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't match.
+</I>Done.
+- --
+Matteo
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+<PRE>Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 06/01/2013 23:04, David Walser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As far as why youri missed these,
+</I>&gt;<i> Just because it is not configured to check those data sources...
+</I>
+Yes, as I said it doesn't check some of these other distros, but that doesn't explain the packages it missed from gentoo, debian, and fedora,
+which we do check.
+
+&gt;<i> A simple parser for directory content would be enough, as for instance the
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora source, before its optimisation to use repodata content:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.zarb.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/youri/soft/check/branches/0.10/lib/Youri/Check/Test/Updates/Source/Fedora.pm?revision=2359&amp;view=markup">http://www.zarb.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/youri/soft/check/branches/0.10/lib/Youri/Check/Test/Updates/Source/Fedora.pm?revision=2359&amp;view=markup</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW, the software refered to is 'youri-check', not 'youri'...
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+Thanks, I'll try to remember that.
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+ <B>Felix Miata</B>
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+<PRE>On 2013-01-07 15:15 (GMT+0200) Anssi Hannula composed:
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+&gt;<i> Felix Miata composed:
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> What is upstream for df command? In openSUSE 12.2, Cauldron &amp; F18 on the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> same 64 bit system, df on the only partition on my 1TB data HD is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> obviously lying as to usage and free on a nearly full EXT2 partition:
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> # df # before copy Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use%
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mounted on /dev/sdb1 968990412 942397904 26592508 98%
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /disks/esata
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> -rw-rw-r-- 1 5548561312 Jan 6 14:59 monk0714IonE-201301061400s2.ts
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -rw-rw-r-- 1 5548200540 Jan 6 15:59 monk0715IonE-201301061500s2.ts
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -rw-rw-r-- 1 5548657192 Jan 6 16:59 monk0716IonE-201301061600s2.ts
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -rw-rw-r-- 1 5547676772 Jan 6 17:59 monk0801IonE-201301061700s2.ts
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -rw-rw-r-- 1 5546660256 Jan 6 18:59 monk0802IonE-201301061800s2.ts
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -rw-rw-r-- 1 5547738436 Jan 6 19:59 monk0803IonE-201301061900s2.ts
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -rw-rw-r-- 1 5548427644 Jan 6 20:59 monk0804IonE-201301062000s2.ts
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> # df # after copying above 37,925,705K bytes in 7 files to # #
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /disks/esata from another system on the network Filesystem 1K-blocks
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1 968990412 942397904
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 26592508 98% /disks/esata
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> Unless this is a bug in df, how is this lack of info possible given the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> following filesystem info (e.g., no reserved blocks, and no journal)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> about the partition?
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> tune2fs 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012) Filesystem volume name: full1TazboxWD
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Last mounted on: /disks/esata
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Free blocks: 6648127
+</I>
+&gt;<i> This seems to be in line with the above &quot;df&quot; output.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> What is the result of &quot;du -sk /disks/esata&quot;? It should be approximately
+</I>&gt;<i> same as the number of used 1K-blocks in &quot;df&quot; output (968990412).
+</I>
+$ df /disks/esata
+Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
+/dev/sdb1 969063752 942471244 26592508 98% /disks/esata
+
+$ du -sk /disks/esata
+942397900 /disks/esata
+
+difference in free count: 73344
+
+Repeating after umounting, fsck.ext2 -f /dev/sdb1 then remounting changed
+nothing.
+
+fsck output included:
+528/61054976 files
+237541825/244189952 blocks (237541825 * 4 = 950167300; 244189952 * 4 = 976759808)
+
+What could be the reason for the differences, all overhang? 0 overhang?
+Something else?
+
+Do total space in df &amp; du output exclude inode blocks?
+--
+&quot;The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
+words are persuasive.&quot; Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
+
+ Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
+
+Felix Miata *** <A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/">http://fm.no-ip.com/</A>
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+&gt;<i> I found the key of the issue: grub has not install because block number
+</I>&gt;<i> is to big (my /boot is at 1,6TB from the start of the disk).
+</I>
+With my HP Elitebook I found that all the partitions were allocated, so
+I booted in Windows 7 (this was 2 years ago) and used the program that
+came with Windows to resize the partitions and move them around a bit.
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+ <B>Liam R E Quin</B>
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+<PRE>On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 12:54 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 2013-01-07 15:15 (GMT+0200) Anssi Hannula composed:
+</I>
+&gt;<i> $ df /disks/esata
+</I>&gt;<i> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sdb1 969063752 942471244 26592508 98% /disks/esata
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Do total space in df &amp; du output exclude inode blocks?
+</I>
+Yes, and indirect blocks that may be needed, depending on the file
+system, and also the size of any filesystem journal. Th du command
+doesn't know about such things, and can't in general (e.g. not all file
+systems have ways to report it). The df command looks at total available
+space, which will be reduced by inode blocks; df -i gives some
+information about inode usage.
+
+Liam
+
+--
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+ <B>Felix Miata</B>
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+<PRE>On 2013-01-07 13:04 (GMT-0500) Liam R E Quin composed:
+
+&gt;<i> On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 12:54 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> On 2013-01-07 15:15 (GMT+0200) Anssi Hannula composed:
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> $ df /disks/esata
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /dev/sdb1 969063752 942471244 26592508 98% /disks/esata
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> Do total space in df &amp; du output exclude inode blocks?
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Yes, and indirect blocks that may be needed, depending on the file
+</I>&gt;<i> system, and also the size of any filesystem journal. Th du command
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't know about such things, and can't in general (e.g. not all file
+</I>&gt;<i> systems have ways to report it). The df command looks at total available
+</I>&gt;<i> space, which will be reduced by inode blocks; df -i gives some
+</I>&gt;<i> information about inode usage.
+</I>
+So the OP questions remain:
+
+1-how can the free block count be identical before and after adding
+37,925,705K bytes in 7 files to that journal-free, 0 reserved for root
+filesystem?
+
+2-how can I find out how much the free space really is, before adding enough
+files to reduce it to 0?
+--
+&quot;The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
+words are persuasive.&quot; Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
+
+ Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
+
+Felix Miata *** <A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/">http://fm.no-ip.com/</A>
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+<PRE>Le 07/01/2013 12:59, Oliver Burger a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> In our soft svn we have
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-gfxboot-theme help-boot and help-install.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Are those leftovers from the old documnetation, before the work using
+</I>&gt;<i> calenco started or are those actually used?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We should know at i18n.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+For gfxboot you mean here
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/theme/mageia-gfxboot-theme/trunk/help-install/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/theme/mageia-gfxboot-theme/trunk/help-install/</A>
+and
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/theme/mageia-gfxboot-theme/trunk/help-boot/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/theme/mageia-gfxboot-theme/trunk/help-boot/</A> ?
+
+Because before mga2 I reported a bug
+(<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5275">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5275</A>) which was fixed in
+english for cauldron but I missed to reopen for other language.
+
+*But*, maybe we will not use anymore gfxboot (what is iso maker opinion
+?) and maybe grenoya's change was not complete.
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+<PRE>On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 01:46:37PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
+&gt;<i> So the OP questions remain:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1-how can the free block count be identical before and after adding
+</I>&gt;<i> 37,925,705K bytes in 7 files to that journal-free, 0 reserved for
+</I>&gt;<i> root filesystem?
+</I>
+Are you absolutely positive that this is the right filesystem you're
+checking? A symbolic link in the path could easily change that if you
+don't explicitly check. Have you tried giving df an argument of the
+actual path to one of the downloaded files instead of the filesystem
+mount point? df is smart enough to extract the actual filesystem on
+which that file is stored and display information for that.
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Dan
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+&gt;<i> Try to do a urpmi --replacepkgs glibc
+</I>&gt;<i> I had some of these when I upgrade an old mga2 install.
+</I>&gt;<i> It did the trick.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>That did the trick, although when doing it remotely through an ssh
+connection, the connection was closed and the installation can't finish.
+Fortunately it's a vbox vm which I have rdp access so I was able to run
+that command &quot;locally&quot;.
+
+This ssh closed connection issue I have seen it since a long time, is there
+any way to avoid it ? it sometimes breaks the update process of that remote
+vm.
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+On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 5:53 AM, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> &gt; Well, it worked on x86_64, but on i586 the symlinks are created under
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; /usr/lib64/games/warsow/basewsw instead of /usr/lib/games/warsow/basewsw
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but I don't understand why, it seems that for some reason, the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; %{_libdir} macro is expanding to /usr/lib64 on the BS. This is the spec
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; if someone wants to take a look:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/warsow-data/current/SPECS/warsow-data.spec?revision=338836&amp;view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/warsow-data/current/SPECS/warsow-data.spec?revision=338836&amp;view=markup</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> %_libdir expands to the given architecture's libdir. On i586 it's
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/lib, on x86_64 it's /usr/lib64.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I know, that's why it's strange to me why when the package is built on the
+BS the links end up on /usr/lib64 on the i586 package.
+
+
+&gt;<i> Looking at the spec, I think you're doing it a bit wrong.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's in the %post for a start which is wrong. It should be done as part
+</I>&gt;<i> of package build, not install. Doing it during install will mean the
+</I>&gt;<i> files are not &quot;owned&quot; by the package so users cannot tell where they
+</I>&gt;<i> come from.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Well, that was just a suggestion from someone on this thread and it looked
+to me like the right place too. On this particular case what I'm doing here
+is not installing some files but creating some symlinks that the other
+warsow package needs.
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also as you use %_libdir, your package cannot be noarch.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+The &quot;warsow-data&quot; package contains the data files of the game which are
+arch independent. The &quot;warsow&quot; package contains all the binaries and libs,
+but to be able to run the game, the binary expects to find the data files
+on the same directory where the libs are, if not then the angelscript
+module will fail loading. So, what I'm trying to accomplish is that when
+warsow-data is installed, symlinks of the files in the data directory
+(/usr/share/warsow/basewsw/*) are created on
+/usr/lib{64}/games/warsow/basewsw/. It works on x86_64 but on i586 is
+creating the links on lib64 instead of lib and I don't get why, you saw the
+code in the spec, I'm not hardcoding any path on it:
+
+
+%define gamelibdir %{_libdir}/games/warsow
+
+%post
+#Add symbolic links of the contents of basewsw to the directory were the
+#package warsow install the libs, if not then angelscript fails to load.
+for i in %{_datadir}/warsow/basewsw/*;
+do
+ file=`basename $i`
+ ln -sf $i %{gamelibdir}/basewsw/$file
+done
+
+%postun
+rm -rf %{gamelibdir}/basewsw
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you want to use /usr/lib all the time then do so (if that's what the
+</I>&gt;<i> game binary expects) via %{_prefix}/lib not via %_libdir.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+That's not the case, as explained before, the symlinks have to be created
+at /usr/lib for i586 and at /usr/lib64 for x86_64, but on i586 for some
+reason isn't doing it.
+
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also your fdupes command seems to do nothing other than display
+</I>&gt;<i> duplicate information, not actually resolve anything. So I'd just remove
+</I>&gt;<i> it or add appropriate arguments to do hardlinking as needed. Unless this
+</I>&gt;<i> package has a particular problem with duplicated data, then I'd just
+</I>&gt;<i> kill it off completely.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I'll check this too.
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hope that gives you some hints.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Thanks for the comments.
+
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Try to do a urpmi --replacepkgs glibc
+</I>&gt;<i> I had some of these when I upgrade an old mga2 install.
+</I>&gt;<i> It did the trick.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That did the trick, although when doing it remotely through an ssh
+</I>&gt;<i> connection, the connection was closed and the installation can't finish.
+</I>&gt;<i> Fortunately it's a vbox vm which I have rdp access so I was able to run
+</I>&gt;<i> that command &quot;locally&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This ssh closed connection issue I have seen it since a long time, is
+</I>&gt;<i> there any way to avoid it ? it sometimes breaks the update process of
+</I>&gt;<i> that remote vm.
+</I>
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata#SSH_daemon_issues">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata#SSH_daemon_issues</A>
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+&gt;<i> We use PXE to install computers, it works very fine for Mageia 2 but it
+</I>&gt;<i> failed with Cauldron with same parameters:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> LABEL manual64bits
+</I>&gt;<i> KERNEL <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/2/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/vmlinuz">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/2/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/vmlinuz</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> APPEND initrd=<A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/2/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/all.rdz">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/2/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/all.rdz</A> automatic=method:http,ser:distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr,dir:/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/2/x86_64/,int:eth0,netw:dhcp vga=788
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and for cauldron:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> LABEL manual64bits
+</I>&gt;<i> KERNEL <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/vmlinuz">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/vmlinuz</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> APPEND initrd=<A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/all.rdz">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/all.rdz</A> automatic=method:http,ser:distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr,dir:/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/,int:eth0,netw:dhcp vga=788
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can see the end of kernel messages but I cannot see the first
+</I>&gt;<i> message...
+</I>
+not directly related, but why the &quot;vga=788&quot;. Have you tried without it?
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+&gt;<i> This ssh closed connection issue I have seen it since a long time, is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> there any way to avoid it ? it sometimes breaks the update process of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that remote vm.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/**Mageia_2_Errata#SSH_daemon_**issues&lt;https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata#SSH_daemon_issues">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/**Mageia_2_Errata#SSH_daemon_**issues&lt;https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata#SSH_daemon_issues</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Thanks for the link but I have UsePAM=no commented on /et/ssh/sshd_config,
+I suppose that's the default sshd configuration, I have never touched that
+file on that machine.
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+&gt;<i> this is a headsup that I'm about to push glibc-2.17 to core/release...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It has worked well in initial test theese last days, so It's time
+</I>&gt;<i> for all to start using it :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i> You better wait for both glibc-2.17-1 and locales-2.17-1 to be
+</I>&gt;<i> available before updating or you will get many packages removed
+</I>&gt;<i> due to missing locales*
+</I>
+The following makes e4rac bounces in the BS (as well as anything BRing audit):
+installing lib64auparse-devel-2.2.2-3.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+lib64blkid-devel-2.22.2-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+lib64uuid-devel-2.22.2-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm audit-2.2.2-3.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+from /mageia/unstable/x86_64/media/core/release
+Preparing... #############################################
+Installation failed: file /usr/lib64/audit from install of
+audit-2.2.2-3.mga3.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 07/01/13 14:15 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie skrev 7.1.2013 16:05:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Anssi Hannula at 07/01/13 13:19 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Of course, the appearance of .rpmnew suggests that something has
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> modified them in your system - not sure what would've done that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Wouldn't:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %config(noreplace)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> cause this?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Even if I/something had not changed the original files, doesn't the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> noreplace trigger this behaviour anyway?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nope.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> noreplace part only triggers if the file installed by previous rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> has been altered.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> otherwise it will be updated.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmm, somewhat worrying then... Wonder how mine got changed :s
+</I>
+What is the difference? (i.e. local compared to the old version)
+
+.. unless you replaced them already.
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+&gt;<i> This ssh closed connection issue I have seen it since a long time, is there any way to
+</I>&gt;<i> avoid it ? it sometimes breaks the update process of that remote vm.
+</I>If i'm afraid that something might blow my connection during update then i use screen. It
+might drop me out but update will continue and usually quite soon i'm able to reconnect.
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+&gt;<i> 07.01.2013 21:19, Juan Luis Baptiste kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This ssh closed connection issue I have seen it since a long time, is
+</I>&gt;<i> there any way to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; avoid it ? it sometimes breaks the update process of that remote vm.
+</I>&gt;<i> If i'm afraid that something might blow my connection during update then i
+</I>&gt;<i> use screen. It
+</I>&gt;<i> might drop me out but update will continue and usually quite soon i'm able
+</I>&gt;<i> to reconnect.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+ I use screen too and the problem is that the user session is finished, so
+the screen process is finished too.
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+<PRE>Le lundi 7 janvier 2013 10:36:07 Barry Jackson a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 06/01/13 19:21, Balcaen John wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Did you try to simply send an email to Luc Menut, Nicolas Lecureuil or me
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for that purpose ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No, but here is a list.
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe some are fixed in svn, but have not been pushed - I don't have
+</I>&gt;<i> time to check just now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> audiokonverter
+</I>&gt;<i> k4guitune
+</I>&gt;<i> konvertible
+</I>&gt;<i> kradio
+</I>&gt;<i> basket
+</I>&gt;<i> kmplayer
+</I>&gt;<i> kmplayer-npplayer
+</I>&gt;<i> kubeplayer
+</I>Thoses packages are not part of the KDE's stack so not really under our
+umbrella ;o)
+You just have to check with their respective maintainers.
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+<PRE>Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+&gt;<i> Preparing... #############################################
+</I>&gt;<i> Installation failed: file /usr/lib64/audit from install of
+</I>&gt;<i> audit-2.2.2-3.mga3.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
+</I>&gt;<i> glibc-6:2.17-1.mga3.x86_64
+</I>
+file? %{_libdir}/audit is a directory, and even if it is owned by two packages, that shouldn't
+cause a conflict. That directory is owned by glibc and audit on mga2, so that's not new. Fedora's
+audit package has it owning this directory, so that's not obviously wrong either. Maybe an issue
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+<PRE>On Mon, 7 Jan 2013, David Walser wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Preparing... #############################################
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Installation failed: file /usr/lib64/audit from install of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> audit-2.2.2-3.mga3.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> glibc-6:2.17-1.mga3.x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> file? %{_libdir}/audit is a directory, and even if it is owned by two packages, that shouldn't
+</I>&gt;<i> cause a conflict. That directory is owned by glibc and audit on mga2, so that's not new. Fedora's
+</I>&gt;<i> audit package has it owning this directory, so that's not obviously wrong either. Maybe an issue
+</I>&gt;<i> with the new rpm version?
+</I>
+Different permissions:
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cjw at hactar</A> audit]$ ls -ld usr/lib64/audit /usr/lib64/audit
+drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 27 Jan 2 15:06 /usr/lib64/audit
+drwxr-x--- 2 cjw cjw 6 Jan 8 02:34 usr/lib64/audit
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+<PRE>Christiaan Welvaart wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, 7 Jan 2013, David Walser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Preparing... #############################################
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Installation failed: file /usr/lib64/audit from install of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> audit-2.2.2-3.mga3.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> glibc-6:2.17-1.mga3.x86_64
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> file? %{_libdir}/audit is a directory, and even if it is owned by two packages, that shouldn't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cause a conflict. That directory is owned by glibc and audit on mga2, so that's not new.
+</I>Fedora's
+&gt;&gt;<i> audit package has it owning this directory, so that's not obviously wrong either. Maybe an issue
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with the new rpm version?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Different permissions:
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cjw at hactar</A> audit]$ ls -ld usr/lib64/audit /usr/lib64/audit
+</I>&gt;<i> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 27 Jan 2 15:06 /usr/lib64/audit
+</I>&gt;<i> drwxr-x--- 2 cjw cjw 6 Jan 8 02:34 usr/lib64/audit
+</I>
+750 appears to be the correct permissions, so I guess attr should be used to explicitly set it in
+glibc as well.
+
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+ <B>Thomas Spuhler</B>
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+Would you please have a look why libkolabxml doesn't build anymore.
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+<PRE>On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:39 AM, Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Funda:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Would you please have a look why libkolabxml doesn't build anymore.
+</I>
+/home/pterjan/rpmbuild/BUILD/libkolabxml-0.8.1/build/src/php/php_kolabformat_wrapper.cpp:1102:16:
+error: 'tsrm_ls' was not declared in this scope
+
+Reading <A HREF="http://blog.golemon.com/2006/06/what-heck-is-tsrmlscc-anyway.html">http://blog.golemon.com/2006/06/what-heck-is-tsrmlscc-anyway.html</A>
+I would guess that zts was enabled on php and this extension needs to
+be fixed for it
+
+It seems to have broken a few others (grep was taking too long on * so
+I searched only php-*):
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+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at valstar</A> 2013-01-06]$ grep &quot;error: 'tsrm_ls'&quot; php*/build* |
+cut -d/ -f1 | uniq
+php-apacheaccessor-1.0.1-1.mga3.src.rpm
+php-apm-1.1.0-0beta4.mga3.src.rpm
+php-cairo_wrapper-0.2.4-11.mga3.src.rpm
+php-colorer-0.7-32.mga3.src.rpm
+php-libvirt-0.4.5-1.mga3.src.rpm
+php-mcal-0.6-41.mga3.src.rpm
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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+<PRE>On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:39 AM, Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Funda:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Would you please have a look why libkolabxml doesn't build anymore.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> /home/pterjan/rpmbuild/BUILD/libkolabxml-0.8.1/build/src/php/php_kolabformat_wrapper.cpp:1102:16:
+</I>&gt;<i> error: 'tsrm_ls' was not declared in this scope
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Reading <A HREF="http://blog.golemon.com/2006/06/what-heck-is-tsrmlscc-anyway.html">http://blog.golemon.com/2006/06/what-heck-is-tsrmlscc-anyway.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would guess that zts was enabled on php and this extension needs to
+</I>&gt;<i> be fixed for it
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems to have broken a few others (grep was taking too long on * so
+</I>&gt;<i> I searched only php-*):
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at valstar</A> 2013-01-06]$ grep &quot;error: 'tsrm_ls'&quot; php*/build* |
+</I>&gt;<i> cut -d/ -f1 | uniq
+</I>&gt;<i> php-apacheaccessor-1.0.1-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> php-apm-1.1.0-0beta4.mga3.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> php-cairo_wrapper-0.2.4-11.mga3.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> php-colorer-0.7-32.mga3.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> php-libvirt-0.4.5-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> php-mcal-0.6-41.mga3.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> php-tk-0.1.1-28.mga3.src.rpm
+</I>
+Full list:
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+gdal-1.9.2-3.mga3.src.rpm
+graphviz-2.28.0-10.mga3.src.rpm
+libkolab-0.3.2-2.mga3.src.rpm
+libkolabxml-0.8.1-4.mga3.src.rpm
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+php-colorer-0.7-32.mga3.src.rpm
+php-libvirt-0.4.5-1.mga3.src.rpm
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+<PRE>Le 08/01/2013 02:54, David Walser a &#233;crit :
+&gt;&gt;<i> Different permissions:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cjw at hactar</A> audit]$ ls -ld usr/lib64/audit /usr/lib64/audit
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 27 Jan 2 15:06 /usr/lib64/audit
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> drwxr-x--- 2 cjw cjw 6 Jan 8 02:34 usr/lib64/audit
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 750 appears to be the correct permissions, so I guess attr should be used to explicitly set it in
+</I>&gt;<i> glibc as well.
+</I>Why 'correct' ? Unless there is an explicit and objective reason,
+directory permission should always be 755.
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+please]
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+'Twas brillig, and Juan Luis Baptiste at 07/01/13 19:32 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hi Colin,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 5:53 AM, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Well, it worked on x86_64, but on i586 the symlinks are created under
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; /usr/lib64/games/warsow/basewsw instead of
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/lib/games/warsow/basewsw
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but I don't understand why, it seems that for some reason, the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; %{_libdir} macro is expanding to /usr/lib64 on the BS. This is the
+</I>&gt;<i> spec
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; if someone wants to take a look:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/warsow-data/current/SPECS/warsow-data.spec?revision=338836&amp;view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/warsow-data/current/SPECS/warsow-data.spec?revision=338836&amp;view=markup</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> %_libdir expands to the given architecture's libdir. On i586 it's
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/lib, on x86_64 it's /usr/lib64.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I know, that's why it's strange to me why when the package is built on
+</I>&gt;<i> the BS the links end up on /usr/lib64 on the i586 package.
+</I>
+There is no &quot;i586&quot; package here, as the spec is noarch. There is only
+one build and it's arch independent. I'll explain more below.
+
+&gt;<i> Looking at the spec, I think you're doing it a bit wrong.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's in the %post for a start which is wrong. It should be done as part
+</I>&gt;<i> of package build, not install. Doing it during install will mean the
+</I>&gt;<i> files are not &quot;owned&quot; by the package so users cannot tell where they
+</I>&gt;<i> come from.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, that was just a suggestion from someone on this thread and it
+</I>&gt;<i> looked to me like the right place too. On this particular case what I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> doing here is not installing some files but creating some symlinks that
+</I>&gt;<i> the other warsow package needs.
+</I>
+Hmm, I didn't see any other replies on the thread - must be broken
+threading on my mail client :s
+
+So are the symlinks intended to link files from other packages here too?
+This seems wrong if so.
+
+
+&gt;<i> Also as you use %_libdir, your package cannot be noarch.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The &quot;warsow-data&quot; package contains the data files of the game which are
+</I>&gt;<i> arch independent. The &quot;warsow&quot; package contains all the binaries and
+</I>&gt;<i> libs, but to be able to run the game, the binary expects to find the
+</I>&gt;<i> data files on the same directory where the libs are, if not then the
+</I>&gt;<i> angelscript module will fail loading. So, what I'm trying to accomplish
+</I>&gt;<i> is that when warsow-data is installed, symlinks of the files in the data
+</I>&gt;<i> directory (/usr/share/warsow/basewsw/*) are created on
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/lib{64}/games/warsow/basewsw/. It works on x86_64 but on i586 is
+</I>&gt;<i> creating the links on lib64 instead of lib and I don't get why, you saw
+</I>&gt;<i> the code in the spec, I'm not hardcoding any path on it:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> %define gamelibdir%{_libdir}/games/warsow
+</I>
+ ^^^^^^^^^^
+
+You hard code it right there. You cannot use _libdir in a noarch
+package. _libdir depends on the arch used when building. It's
+fundamentally incompatible with a noarch package.
+
+Remember macros are expanded at build time. So if your &quot;noarch&quot; package
+is build on a 64bit build node, _libdir will be /usr/lib64, but if it
+happens to be built by an i586 build node, then it'll be /usr/lib. You
+simply cannot use the _libdir macro in a noarch package.
+
+Either you have to use some other form of detection of /usr/lib vs.
+/usr/lib64 that will work at %post time (e.g. running uname -m) and then
+use the right path (hard coded for each arch) accordingly. That way you
+can keep your package noarch.
+
+That said, even the above suggestion will not actually work as you use
+your gamelibdir definition in actual files included in the package
+itself (in the %files section). Of course this looks like an empty
+directory only included so you can add symlinks to it later so it should
+be able to be refactored.
+
+&gt;<i> %post
+</I>&gt;<i> #Add symbolic links of the contents of basewsw to the directory were the
+</I>&gt;<i> #package warsow install the libs, if not then angelscript fails to load.
+</I>&gt;<i> for i in %{_datadir}/warsow/basewsw/*;
+</I>&gt;<i> do
+</I>&gt;<i> file=`basename $i`
+</I>&gt;<i> ln -sf $i %{gamelibdir}/basewsw/$file
+</I>&gt;<i> done
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> %postun
+</I>&gt;<i> rm -rf %{gamelibdir}/basewsw
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you want to use /usr/lib all the time then do so (if that's what the
+</I>&gt;<i> game binary expects) via %{_prefix}/lib not via %_libdir.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's not the case, as explained before, the symlinks have to be
+</I>&gt;<i> created at /usr/lib for i586 and at /usr/lib64 for x86_64, but on i586
+</I>&gt;<i> for some reason isn't doing it.
+</I>
+OK, so the fundamental issue you're encountering is trying to do this
+from a noarch package! You cannot know about different architectures
+automatically in a noarch package.
+
+I understand the principle of keeping arch-independent data in a noarch
+package, but you cannot mix arch-specific and arch-independent here!
+
+
+
+So here is my recommendation:
+
+Either:
+
+a. Make it arch-specific and do the symlinking in %install.
+
+or
+
+b. Kill off gamelibdir in the warsow-data spec. Don't include the folder
+or the symlinks there. Also do not ship the folder %gamelibdir/basewsw
+in the main warsow package (it's just empty folder as far as I can
+tell). Instead just ship a symlink to %{_datadir}/warsow/basewsw as
+%gamelibdir/basesw in the warsow package. In order to not have a broken
+symlink I'd also suggest you ship the empty folder
+%{_datadir}/warsow/basewsw in the main warsow package too. Then when you
+ship your data files in the warsow-data files, the main package will
+fine them via the single directory symlink. Nothing more needs done, no
+complex individual symlinks.
+
+
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+I'd vote for option b. It should work fine from what I can tell,
+although I've not looked super thoroughly so there may be some caveat as
+to why this will not work.
+
+Col
+
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Juan Luis Baptiste at 07/01/13 19:43 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This ssh closed connection issue I have seen it since a long
+</I>&gt;<i> time, is
+</I>&gt;<i> there any way to avoid it ? it sometimes breaks the update
+</I>&gt;<i> process of
+</I>&gt;<i> that remote vm.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/__Mageia_2_Errata#SSH_daemon___issues">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/__Mageia_2_Errata#SSH_daemon___issues</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata#SSH_daemon_issues">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata#SSH_daemon_issues</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks for the link but I have UsePAM=no commented on
+</I>&gt;<i> /et/ssh/sshd_config, I suppose that's the default sshd configuration, I
+</I>&gt;<i> have never touched that file on that machine.
+</I>
+The default is UsePAM=yes and has been since Mageia 2.
+
+You likely had a .rpmnew at some point and never resolved the differences.
+
+Col
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+&gt;<i> 07.01.2013 17:47, Colin Guthrie kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 07/01/13 14:15 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie skrev 7.1.2013 16:05:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Anssi Hannula at 07/01/13 13:19 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Of course, the appearance of .rpmnew suggests that something has
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> modified them in your system - not sure what would've done that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Wouldn't:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %config(noreplace)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> cause this?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Even if I/something had not changed the original files, doesn't the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> noreplace trigger this behaviour anyway?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Nope.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> noreplace part only triggers if the file installed by previous rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> has been altered.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> otherwise it will be updated.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hmm, somewhat worrying then... Wonder how mine got changed :s
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is the difference? (i.e. local compared to the old version)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> .. unless you replaced them already.
+</I>
+Yup already replaced sadly.
+
+Seemed mostly indentation changes on the few I actually looked at.
+
+Col
+
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+--
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+<PRE>Le 08/01/2013 10:55, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks for the link but I have UsePAM=no commented on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /et/ssh/sshd_config, I suppose that's the default sshd configuration, I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have never touched that file on that machine.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The default is UsePAM=yes and has been since Mageia 2.
+</I>The term 'default' isn't quite appropriate here, as 'default' is usually
+perceived as 'what is hardcoded in the binary if nothing is specified in
+ the configuration file'. In our case, we don't change this, we just
+tune the default configuration file.
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+<PRE>On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 10:20:35 -0700, Thomas Spuhler wrote:
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+&gt;<i> If nobody objects I am going to rebuild php treadsafe
+</I>&gt;<i> (--enable-maintainer-zts)
+</I>&gt;<i> it is needed for running apache with mpm-module-worker instead of
+</I>&gt;<i> prefork and php apache module worker is needed by 389-ds. It is now
+</I>&gt;<i> declared as stable.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But apache mpm-prefork starts with php compiled treadsafe apache
+</I>&gt;<i> mpm-worker doesn't start with php compiled none-treadsafe
+</I>
+You can run PHP with apache2-mpm-worker with mod_fcgid and php5-cgi or
+php5-fpm.
+
+This is what Debian Wheezy's README file for php says:
+
+Using PHP 5 with threaded webservers (e.g. apache2-mpm-worker)
+----------------------------------------------------------------------
+
+ After much back-and-forth with upstream (and even building our
+ packages thread-safe for a while), we're currently admitting defeat
+ on that front, and are NOT building any thread-safe versions of PHP
+ 5 for any webservers. Our recommendation is that, if you need to use
+ a threaded webserver, you should use php5-fpm and interface to your
+ webserver with FastCGI.
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+I think Mageia is hurting itself by enabling too experimental features.
+Another example is the uas kernel module, of which I saw a complaint
+recently in this mailing list. This module is known to be buggy, and
+disabled in Debian.
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+--
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Guillaume Rousse at 08/01/13 10:04 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Le 08/01/2013 10:55, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks for the link but I have UsePAM=no commented on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /et/ssh/sshd_config, I suppose that's the default sshd configuration, I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> have never touched that file on that machine.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The default is UsePAM=yes and has been since Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i> The term 'default' isn't quite appropriate here, as 'default' is usually
+</I>&gt;<i> perceived as 'what is hardcoded in the binary if nothing is specified in
+</I>&gt;<i> the configuration file'. In our case, we don't change this, we just
+</I>&gt;<i> tune the default configuration file.
+</I>
+Bit of a grey area really as to what &quot;default&quot; could mean but I accept
+your point. We probably should patch the binary to be complete - I just
+took the same patch as fedora out of convenience.
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+Col
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+Let start again our weekly meeting! As usual on #mageia-dev at 20h UTC
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+- mass rebuild (would be nice to have pterjan and tmb around for this topic)
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+<PRE>Am 08.01.2013 11:04, schrieb Frederik Himpe:
+&gt;<i> On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 10:20:35 -0700, Thomas Spuhler wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If nobody objects I am going to rebuild php treadsafe
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (--enable-maintainer-zts)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it is needed for running apache with mpm-module-worker instead of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> prefork and php apache module worker is needed by 389-ds. It is now
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> declared as stable.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But apache mpm-prefork starts with php compiled treadsafe apache
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mpm-worker doesn't start with php compiled none-treadsafe
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can run PHP with apache2-mpm-worker with mod_fcgid and php5-cgi or
+</I>&gt;<i> php5-fpm.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is what Debian Wheezy's README file for php says:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Using PHP 5 with threaded webservers (e.g. apache2-mpm-worker)
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After much back-and-forth with upstream (and even building our
+</I>&gt;<i> packages thread-safe for a while), we're currently admitting defeat
+</I>&gt;<i> on that front, and are NOT building any thread-safe versions of PHP
+</I>&gt;<i> 5 for any webservers. Our recommendation is that, if you need to use
+</I>&gt;<i> a threaded webserver, you should use php5-fpm and interface to your
+</I>&gt;<i> webserver with FastCGI.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think Mageia is hurting itself by enabling too experimental features.
+</I>&gt;<i> Another example is the uas kernel module, of which I saw a complaint
+</I>&gt;<i> recently in this mailing list. This module is known to be buggy, and
+</I>&gt;<i> disabled in Debian.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>+1
+
+That's what Oden told me yesterday on IRC.
+
+So as current php maintainer I vote against enabling this.
+
+Oliver
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+let me reply to your E-mail - not necessarily disagreeing.
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+On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 02:46:39 -0500
+Liam R E Quin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">liam at holoweb.net</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Tried installing 3.0 beta over a Mandriva Cooker system today.
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-3-beta1-x86_64-DVD.iso
+</I>
+Can Mandriva Cooker be upgraded to Mageia 3? I don't think it can be (due to
+Mandriva's switch to rpm5). Or do you mean you reformatted the relevant
+partitions and installed a new system?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some notes. Mostly about problems because I never got to see a working
+</I>&gt;<i> system, so the tone is probably more negative than I'd like.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+No problem with that for me - bring on the negativity, I say, because that will
+help us improve the program. Also Lawrence Lessig's anecdote which I quoted at:
+
+<A HREF="http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/How_to_start_contributing_to_or_using_Open_Source_Software#Some_Mental_Preparation">http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/How_to_start_contributing_to_or_using_Open_Source_Software#Some_Mental_Preparation</A>
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+(short URL - <A HREF="http://xrl.us/biknkf">http://xrl.us/biknkf</A> ).
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On boot, there was a long delay followed by &quot;Loading program&quot; and a
+</I>&gt;<i> progress bar appearing and disappearing again almost before I had time
+</I>&gt;<i> to read the message. This didn't seem optimal.
+</I>
+I see. What are your system's specifications? I think I usually install from a
+CD (just to have a working system) and then install more packages using urpmi. I
+am downloading the DVD .iso now and will try it in a VirtualBox VM later to see
+if I can reproduce any problems.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Choice of keyboard - there was a link to wikipedia in the Help text, but
+</I>&gt;<i> it gave me an error that there was no network. There are two entries for
+</I>&gt;<i> US Keyboard with no obvious reason, and a third for US International
+</I>&gt;<i> (which I chose since I'm not in the US :-))
+</I>
+Sounds like a bug or at least a problem in the installer. Can you file a bug
+for it on <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/">https://bugs.mageia.org/</A> ?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have 2 disk drives. the installer wanted to use the spare space on my
+</I>&gt;<i> Windows drive, when the other drive already had Linux. Yes, I could
+</I>&gt;<i> choose from the drop-down, but it wasn't clear that I was choosing where
+</I>&gt;<i> to put Mageia. Suggest add,
+</I>&gt;<i> Multiple disk drives found. Choose which one you want to use for the
+</I>&gt;<i> main Mageia system.
+</I>
+Sounds like a good enhancement.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The disk was formatted. That was actually what I wanted, in this case,
+</I>&gt;<i> but please add a warning that data will be lost - most humans on the
+</I>&gt;<i> planet won't know that.
+</I>
+Yes, true. Of course, you cannot expect your users to read:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.joelonsoftware.com/uibook/chapters/fog0000000062.html">http://www.joelonsoftware.com/uibook/chapters/fog0000000062.html</A>
+
+Or like my Technion lecturer once noted in one of the first talks in our
+Computer Graphics course, which taught us about designing for usability (from
+the P.O.V. of this book -
+<A HREF="http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/books-recommends/#design_of_everyday_things">http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/books-recommends/#design_of_everyday_things</A>
+) a typical session can go like that:
+
+User: delete &quot;My_most_important_work.doc&quot;
+Computer: are you sure? [Yes] [No]
+User: Yes!
+Computer &quot;My_most_important_work.doc&quot; deleted.
+User: damn!
+
+But I approve of issuing a warning before that, or somehow preventing this
+from happening.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There's no indication of how long the formatting will take, or how much
+</I>&gt;<i> has been done. I'll leave it running for an hour or two (it's a 250G
+</I>&gt;<i> SATA hard drive) and see if it finishes, or maybe it crashed.
+</I>&gt;<i> Please add a note that this may take a long time, preferably with an
+</I>&gt;<i> OK/Cancel/Skip since (1) it wasn't needed here, and (2) users may well
+</I>&gt;<i> give it a minute or so and then move on to the next Linux distribution
+</I>&gt;<i> on the magazine, saying &quot;Mageia hung my computer, it's crap.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Suggest progress bar or at least some quotes from Moli&#233;re.
+</I>
+Heh. Well, formatting normally did not take too long for me, at least not in
+its fast formatting mode. But maybe a progress bar will be doable.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Note: eventually the bad block scan started giving a progress percentage
+</I>&gt;<i> on another virtual terminal, but most users won't find that, of course,
+</I>&gt;<i> even if they wait half an hour or more for it to begin.
+</I>
+Oh, bad block scan. :-(. It should be displayed in the graphical installer.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm assuming the graphics and ugly font are not final. If they are, the
+</I>&gt;<i> pink stripes look like an error. Maybe caused by running my monitor
+</I>&gt;<i> (1920x1200/&quot;deep colour&quot;) in 800x600 16-bit mode.
+</I>
+I'll see if it happens to me in the installer.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The long list of packages being installed - would be nicer to show the
+</I>&gt;<i> name of the current package, and its description, and more slowly to
+</I>&gt;<i> show a more detailed description of just one program.
+</I>
+By default the installer does not display the names of the packages installed I
+think - just a progress bar.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If there was a clear and obvious option to choose the LCD's native
+</I>&gt;<i> resolution, a font like Matthew Carter's Bitstream Charter Italic would
+</I>&gt;<i> look more sophisticated and also get more information on a line.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Is it an open font.
+
+&gt;<i> Choosing a desktop - help said &quot;broken link&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Shouldn't the help be included inside the installer's media.
+
+&gt;<i> Choosing a desktop - please add versions, not just KDE, GNOME, Other.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I'm not sure versions are a good idea because they may be confusing. I'm also
+not sure many users who start with Linux will understand the difference between
+KDE, GNOME or whatever, so maybe we should pick one or the other by default.
+
+&gt;<i> Also, I might want both KDE and GNOME installed, so I don't want to
+</I>&gt;<i> choose just one and not the other. If I'll get a chance to install more
+</I>&gt;<i> desktops later in the installer, please say so more clearly, not buried
+</I>&gt;<i> in help (once the link to help is fixed)...
+</I>
+Yes.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The installer seems much slower than it used to be, but maybe that's
+</I>&gt;<i> changes in rpm? Three hours to install packages is a long time. Although
+</I>&gt;<i> having said that, maybe the estimates were just wrong.
+</I>
+How strange. I was able to install Mageia 2 in a VM (from the Dual CD though)
+in a few minutes.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At the end, several hours later, the DVD is ejected and the system tries
+</I>&gt;<i> to reboot...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PANIC cannot mount proc on /proc! Compile the kernel with
+</I>&gt;<i> CONFIG_PROC_FS!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmm. Well, I saw something go by about this on the mailing list so maybe
+</I>&gt;<i> I can fix it without another 7-hour download of the DVD image.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Overall, though, the installer needs a huge injection of &quot;slickness&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> It's_almost_ there, but in graphic design &quot;almost&quot; doesn't get you a
+</I>&gt;<i> cigar.
+</I>
+That's true. By the way &#8220;GUI Design&quot; is not graphic design. You can design good
+GUI without being a competent graphics designer. Designing web sites or Web
+UI with their stylish look and everything should look different than every
+other site, is a different issue, and from my experience, some web designs tend
+to be considered outdated, and some users (though different ones each time) will
+complain that they don't like your style. You cannot please all the people all
+the time.
+
+Regards,
+
+ Shlomi Fish
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Liam
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
+--
+-----------------------------------------------------------------
+Shlomi Fish <A HREF="http://www.shlomifish.org/">http://www.shlomifish.org/</A>
+List of Networking Clients - <A HREF="http://shlom.in/net-clients">http://shlom.in/net-clients</A>
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+Java is a DSL (= Domain Specific Language) to transform big XML documents
+into long exception stack traces. &#8212; Scott Bellware
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+After updating cauldron to latest packages, I rebuilt manually the boot
+initrd with dracut -f. After that, the system does not boot:
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+mount: /proc: filesystem mounted, but mount(8) failed: No such file or directory
+Cannot mount proc on /proc! Compile the kernel with CONFIG_PROC_FS!
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+And then a kernel panic...
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+I think that I have boxes that boot because I have not rebuilt the initrd,
+but I don't dare to try one other :).
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+Any ideas o how to debug/fix this ?
+
+TIA
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and JA Magall&#243;n at 08/01/13 12:11 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hi...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After updating cauldron to latest packages, I rebuilt manually the boot
+</I>&gt;<i> initrd with dracut -f. After that, the system does not boot:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mount: /proc: filesystem mounted, but mount(8) failed: No such file or
+</I>&gt;<i> directory
+</I>&gt;<i> Cannot mount proc on /proc! Compile the kernel with CONFIG_PROC_FS!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And then a kernel panic...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think that I have boxes that boot because I have not rebuilt the initrd,
+</I>&gt;<i> but I don't dare to try one other :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any ideas o how to debug/fix this ?
+</I>
+I heard this is due to new util-linux. My initrd was from 3rd Jan, but
+util-linux installed on 5th Jan. I've regenerated my initrd so will
+reboot sometime today to see if it now breaks with the new version of mount.
+
+We maybe need to patch mount? I don't think it's really the kernel
+that's at fault here.
+
+Col
+
+
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+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+<PRE>Colin Guthrie skrev 8.1.2013 14:28:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and JA Magall&#243;n at 08/01/13 12:11 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> After updating cauldron to latest packages, I rebuilt manually the boot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> initrd with dracut -f. After that, the system does not boot:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mount: /proc: filesystem mounted, but mount(8) failed: No such file or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> directory
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cannot mount proc on /proc! Compile the kernel with CONFIG_PROC_FS!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And then a kernel panic...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8614">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8614</A>
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+
+&gt;&gt;<i> I think that I have boxes that boot because I have not rebuilt the initrd,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but I don't dare to try one other :).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any ideas o how to debug/fix this ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I heard this is due to new util-linux. My initrd was from 3rd Jan, but
+</I>&gt;<i> util-linux installed on 5th Jan. I've regenerated my initrd so will
+</I>&gt;<i> reboot sometime today to see if it now breaks with the new version of mount.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+It will.
+
+I hope you have a backup initrd to use.
+
+
+ &gt; We maybe need to patch mount? I don't think it's really the kernel
+&gt;<i> that's at fault here.
+</I>
+I will investigte it tonight..
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+--
+Thomas
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+ <B>Guillaume Rousse</B>
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+<PRE>Le 08/01/2013 11:34, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Guillaume Rousse at 08/01/13 10:04 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 08/01/2013 10:55, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks for the link but I have UsePAM=no commented on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /et/ssh/sshd_config, I suppose that's the default sshd configuration, I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> have never touched that file on that machine.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The default is UsePAM=yes and has been since Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The term 'default' isn't quite appropriate here, as 'default' is usually
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> perceived as 'what is hardcoded in the binary if nothing is specified in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the configuration file'. In our case, we don't change this, we just
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tune the default configuration file.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bit of a grey area really as to what &quot;default&quot; could mean but I accept
+</I>&gt;<i> your point. We probably should patch the binary to be complete - I just
+</I>&gt;<i> took the same patch as fedora out of convenience.
+</I>I don't think that would be very wise. Changing hardcoded value is
+really evil, because it's invisible from end-user point of view.
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+BOFH excuse #413:
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+ <B>JA Magall&#243;n</B>
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+<PRE>On 01/08/2013 02:01 PM, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie skrev 8.1.2013 14:28:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and JA Magall&#243;n at 08/01/13 12:11 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> After updating cauldron to latest packages, I rebuilt manually the boot
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> initrd with dracut -f. After that, the system does not boot:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mount: /proc: filesystem mounted, but mount(8) failed: No such file or
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> directory
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cannot mount proc on /proc! Compile the kernel with CONFIG_PROC_FS!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And then a kernel panic...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8614">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8614</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Well, i copied the libraries amd mount binary from a beta3 image,
+rebuilt initrd and the system boots.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think that I have boxes that boot because I have not rebuilt the initrd,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but I don't dare to try one other :).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Any ideas o how to debug/fix this ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I heard this is due to new util-linux. My initrd was from 3rd Jan, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> util-linux installed on 5th Jan. I've regenerated my initrd so will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reboot sometime today to see if it now breaks with the new version of mount.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It will.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I hope you have a backup initrd to use.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Now I have ;)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We maybe need to patch mount? I don't think it's really the kernel
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that's at fault here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I will investigte it tonight..
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 08/01/13 13:01 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;&gt;<i> I heard this is due to new util-linux. My initrd was from 3rd Jan, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> util-linux installed on 5th Jan. I've regenerated my initrd so will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reboot sometime today to see if it now breaks with the new version of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mount.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It will.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I hope you have a backup initrd to use.
+</I>
+Naturally :)
+
+Fixing it wouldn't have been crazy difficult anyway - just a pain.
+
+Col
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+--
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Open Source:
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+<PRE>Christiaan Welvaart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cjw at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+&gt;<i> Since Mesa 9.0 apparently doesn't build with llvm 3.2 we are getting many
+</I>&gt;<i> build failures because mesa packages depend on libllvm3.1 which isn't
+</I>&gt;<i> available. I have llvm 3.2pre+amdgpu and mesa 9.1pre ready to upload which
+</I>&gt;<i> should fix those build problems. Gnome-shell and armagetron seem to work
+</I>&gt;<i> OK with them, for neverball I get
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58839">https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58839</A> but it still works
+</I>&gt;<i> (maybe with a lower framerate). Mesa 9.1 release is scheduled for february
+</I>&gt;<i> 2013 AFAIK.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So is there a reason why I should not upload these two packages?
+</I>
+We should probably see that this doesn't affect us:
+<A HREF="http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&amp;px=MTI2OTE">http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&amp;px=MTI2OTE</A>
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+<PRE>* Liam R E Quin (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">liam at holoweb.net</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 17:01 +0100, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I found the key of the issue: grub has not install because block number
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is to big (my /boot is at 1,6TB from the start of the disk).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With my HP Elitebook I found that all the partitions were allocated, so
+</I>&gt;<i> I booted in Windows 7 (this was 2 years ago) and used the program that
+</I>&gt;<i> came with Windows to resize the partitions and move them around a bit.
+</I>
+I did succeed to setup grub2-efi on my mageia2.
+But I want cauldron on it and since upgrading mga2 =&gt; cauldron is no
+longer possible I decided to try to install cauldron.
+
+The system is installed with grub2-efi but the boot failed with all
+kernel I've tried: &quot;cannot mount /proc&quot; - &quot;mount return error, no such
+file or directory&quot;.
+
+Any idea ?
+
+--
+
+Olivier Thauvin
+CNRS - LATMOS
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+<PRE>On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Olivier Thauvin
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> * Liam R E Quin (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">liam at holoweb.net</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 17:01 +0100, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I found the key of the issue: grub has not install because block number
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; is to big (my /boot is at 1,6TB from the start of the disk).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> With my HP Elitebook I found that all the partitions were allocated, so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I booted in Windows 7 (this was 2 years ago) and used the program that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> came with Windows to resize the partitions and move them around a bit.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I did succeed to setup grub2-efi on my mageia2.
+</I>&gt;<i> But I want cauldron on it and since upgrading mga2 =&gt; cauldron is no
+</I>&gt;<i> longer possible I decided to try to install cauldron.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The system is installed with grub2-efi but the boot failed with all
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel I've tried: &quot;cannot mount /proc&quot; - &quot;mount return error, no such
+</I>&gt;<i> file or directory&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any idea ?
+</I>
+Yes, it seems a cauldron bug :)
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 08/01/13 14:01 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> But I want cauldron on it and since upgrading mga2 =&gt; cauldron is no
+</I>&gt;<i> longer possible I decided to try to install cauldron.
+</I>
+Why is this no longer possible?
+
+Col
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+--
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+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Open Source:
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+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>On Tuesday, January 08, 2013 04:36:26 AM Oliver Burger wrote:
+&gt;<i> Am 08.01.2013 11:04, schrieb Frederik Himpe:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 10:20:35 -0700, Thomas Spuhler wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; If nobody objects I am going to rebuild php treadsafe
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (--enable-maintainer-zts)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; it is needed for running apache with mpm-module-worker instead of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; prefork and php apache module worker is needed by 389-ds. It is now
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; declared as stable.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; But apache mpm-prefork starts with php compiled treadsafe apache
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; mpm-worker doesn't start with php compiled none-treadsafe
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; You can run PHP with apache2-mpm-worker with mod_fcgid and php5-cgi or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; php5-fpm.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This is what Debian Wheezy's README file for php says:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Using PHP 5 with threaded webservers (e.g. apache2-mpm-worker)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ----------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; After much back-and-forth with upstream (and even building our
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packages thread-safe for a while), we're currently admitting defeat
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; on that front, and are NOT building any thread-safe versions of PHP
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 5 for any webservers. Our recommendation is that, if you need to use
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; a threaded webserver, you should use php5-fpm and interface to your
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; webserver with FastCGI.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I think Mageia is hurting itself by enabling too experimental features.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Another example is the uas kernel module, of which I saw a complaint
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; recently in this mailing list. This module is known to be buggy, and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; disabled in Debian.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's what Oden told me yesterday on IRC.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So as current php maintainer I vote against enabling this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>I guess I then will revert it to NTS.
+Fedora builds it with both options. But it may be too late now going that way.
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+<PRE>* Colin Guthrie (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 08/01/13 14:01 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But I want cauldron on it and since upgrading mga2 =&gt; cauldron is no
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; longer possible I decided to try to install cauldron.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why is this no longer possible?
+</I>
+This mga2 has been installed yesterday:
+urpmi --auto-update --skip '/filesystem|ncurses/' =&gt; urpmi ran during 10
+minutes without doing nothing the I did stop it.
+
+urpmi urpmi --skip '/filesystem|ncurses/' =&gt; pull perl -&gt; glibc -&gt;
+and it complain the rpmlib(...) was necessary.
+
+I guess any new binary will pull the latest glibc.
+
+That's true I haven't check if my rpm version was the last but since I
+did an network install I hope rpms from updates were installed.
+
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+--
+
+Olivier Thauvin
+CNRS - LATMOS
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 01:46:37PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> So the OP questions remain:
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> 1-how can the free block count be identical before and after adding
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 37,925,705K bytes in 7 files to that journal-free, 0 reserved for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> root filesystem?
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Are you absolutely positive that this is the right filesystem you're
+</I>&gt;<i> checking?
+</I>
+I really need to stop persisting to continue ad hoc maintenance projects past
+when I should have gone to bed. :-(
+
+The source files were coming from a Linux STB with woeful throughput to the
+LAN. These 5200MB video files were averaging 20 minutes each to copy off. I
+started that activity Sunday night by mounting the external destination HD to
+a PC and checked it for available space. Then, being tired and not being sure
+of my math in that condition, I proceeded to first copy from the STB to ample
+internal HD freespace where I would be working on those files anyway,
+intending to copy them after retrieval from the STB to the external HD at the
+much much faster SATA clip. I never made the second copies, so the freespace
+on the external HD's mount point was never touched. I never checked to see
+where the original copies landed, and then when booting openSUSE and Fedora
+to confirm, made the same omission, checking only the external HD mount point
+freespace without once confirming the location of the copied files. :-p
+--
+&quot;The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
+words are persuasive.&quot; Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
+
+ Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
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+Felix Miata *** <A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/">http://fm.no-ip.com/</A>
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+stable/beta was stick to version 21.
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+stable version should be 23, beta version 24. Many sandboxing enhancement
+comes with recent chrome releases and Native API vesion 23 and further are
+interesting to me, so it would be cool to have those (stable/beta up to
+date) in Mageia 3.
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+&gt;<i> I noticed that chromium-browser-unstable was version 25 (which is ok), but
+</I>&gt;<i> stable/beta was stick to version 21.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> According to
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.fr/">http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.fr/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> stable version should be 23, beta version 24. Many sandboxing enhancement
+</I>&gt;<i> comes with recent chrome releases and Native API vesion 23 and further are
+</I>&gt;<i> interesting to me, so it would be cool to have those (stable/beta up to
+</I>&gt;<i> date) in Mageia 3.
+</I>
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+'Twas brillig, and Anne Nicolas at 08/01/13 11:21 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Let start again our weekly meeting! As usual on #mageia-dev at 20h UTC
+</I>&gt;<i> Here are the proposed topics
+</I>
+I don't think I'll be able to attend this evening :( (maybe later - but
+that somewhat depends on how the evening plays out)
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+&gt;<i> - Mageia 3 release (planning, freeze, coming isos)
+</I>&gt;<i> - mass rebuild (would be nice to have pterjan and tmb around for this
+</I>&gt;<i> topic)
+</I>&gt;<i> - release critical bugs
+</I>&gt;<i> - following build errors
+</I>&gt;<i> - FOSDEM 2013
+</I>
+Nothing much new from me. I hardly touched my computer for 2 weeks over
+the holidays (\o/). Still need to tweak a whole bunch of packages that
+are still shipping files in /var/run and /var/lock and convert them to
+tmpfiles. I'll get this done, but not sure exactly when.
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> I noticed that chromium-browser-unstable was version 25 (which is ok), but
+</I>&gt;<i> stable/beta was stick to version 21.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> According to
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.fr/">http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.fr/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> stable version should be 23, beta version 24. Many sandboxing enhancement
+</I>&gt;<i> comes with recent chrome releases and Native API vesion 23 and further are
+</I>&gt;<i> interesting to me, so it would be cool to have those (stable/beta up to
+</I>&gt;<i> date) in Mageia 3.
+</I>
+The -unstable 25.x was done by me. It crashes on some pages, e.g.
+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/</A> and I disabled Native API support because it
+relied on bundled binaries. OTOH it does support h.264 video through
+system ffmpeg. A build of version 24 exhibited the same renderer
+process segfault so I did not upload any beta or stable packages.
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+ Christiaan
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+ <B>Armando B.</B>
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+<PRE>Hi friends,
+i looking in svn repo for some solution about KVM web management solution,
+but i haven't founded applications.
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+I used, for a little virtual cluster, VirtualBox + VbTool + phpVirtualbox
+(all presents in our repo).
+
+For KVM there is great virt-manager for cli gui but nothing for web gui.
+
+Searching online i saw:
+<A HREF="http://www.openqrm-enterprise.com">http://www.openqrm-enterprise.com</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.ovirt.org/Home">http://www.ovirt.org/Home</A>
+<A HREF="https://www.webvirtmgr.net">https://www.webvirtmgr.net</A>
+<A HREF="http://archipelproject.org">http://archipelproject.org</A>
+<A HREF="http://karesansui-project.info/">http://karesansui-project.info/</A>
+<A HREF="https://code.osuosl.org/projects/ganeti-webmgr">https://code.osuosl.org/projects/ganeti-webmgr</A>
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+packaging of some of these is difficult for dependencies not already in our
+repo, perhaps ganeti could be more simple to package (in repo missing only
+2 packages: python-whoosh and django-fields)
+
+what do you think about ?
+Would we have a web management solution for KVM in Mageia ?
+
+regards :)
+
+--
+ themonospot project - <A HREF="http://www.integrazioneweb.com/themonospot">http://www.integrazioneweb.com/themonospot</A>
+ monosim project - <A HREF="http://www.integrazioneweb.com/monosim">http://www.integrazioneweb.com/monosim</A>
+ comex project - <A HREF="http://comex-project.googlecode.com">http://comex-project.googlecode.com</A>
+ webpman project - <A HREF="http://www.integrazioneweb.com/webpman">http://www.integrazioneweb.com/webpman</A>
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+<PRE>Trying Mageia-3-Alpha2 on a Samsung NC110 netbook and enjoying it, I
+today did a 720+ file s/w update.
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+Result: When rebooting:
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+ &quot;Kernel panic - not syncing
+ Attempted to kill init! exitcode = 0x00000100
+ Pid: 1, comm: init not tainted 3.7.1-desktop-1.mga3 #1&quot;
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+I can access its root partition from Mageia-2 on the same machine.
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+Anyone know of a fix for the above, please?
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+--
+/\/\aurice
+ (Retired in Surrey, UK)
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+Le 08/01/2013 17:35, Maurice Batey a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Trying Mageia-3-Alpha2 on a Samsung NC110 netbook and enjoying it,
+</I>&gt;<i> I today did a 720+ file s/w update.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Result: When rebooting:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Kernel panic - not syncing Attempted to kill init! exitcode =
+</I>&gt;<i> 0x00000100 Pid: 1, comm: init not tainted 3.7.1-desktop-1.mga3 #1&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can access its root partition from Mageia-2 on the same machine.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyone know of a fix for the above, please?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+the same here ...
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+ <B>Maurice Batey</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Kernel%20Panic%20after%20latest%20Mageia-3-Alpha2%20s/w%0A%09update%20c&In-Reply-To=%3Cpan.2013.01.08.16.53.00.139283%40bcs.org.uk%3E"
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+<PRE>On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 16:35:30 +0000, I wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Anyone know of a fix for the above,
+</I>
+ The Mageia-3-Alpha2 menu.lst is:
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+timeout 10
+color black/cyan yellow/cyan
+gfxmenu (hd0,0)/boot/gfxmenu
+default 3
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+title Mageia-3-Alpha2
+kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=Mageia-3-Alpha2
+root=UUID=50814013-9adf-4c14-82d2-16fbc8df5ec3 splash quiet
+resume=UUID=6044c21e-9281-406d-8db8-2af56e955dbf vga=788
+root (hd0,0)
+initrd /boot/initrd.img
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+title linux-nonfb
+kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=linux-nonfb
+root=UUID=50814013-9adf-4c14-82d2-16fbc8df5ec3
+resume=UUID=6044c21e-9281-406d-8db8-2af56e955dbf
+root (hd0,0)
+initrd /boot/initrd.img
+
+title failsafe
+kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=failsafe
+root=UUID=50814013-9adf-4c14-82d2-16fbc8df5ec3 failsafe
+root (hd0,0)
+initrd /boot/initrd.img
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+title Mageia-2
+root (hd0,8)
+configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst
+
+title linux
+kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=linux
+root=UUID=50814013-9adf-4c14-82d2-16fbc8df5ec3 splash quiet
+resume=UUID=6044c21e-9281-406d-8db8-2af56e955dbf vga=788
+root (hd0,0)
+initrd /boot/initrd.img
+
+title desktop 3.6.5-1.mga3
+kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz-3.6.5-desktop-1.mga3
+BOOT_IMAGE=desktop_3.6.5-1.mga3
+root=UUID=50814013-9adf-4c14-82d2-16fbc8df5ec3 splash quiet
+resume=UUID=6044c21e-9281-406d-8db8-2af56e955dbf vga=788
+root (hd0,0)
+initrd /boot/initrd-3.6.5-desktop-1.mga3.img
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+title desktop 3.3.6-2.mga2
+kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz-3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2
+BOOT_IMAGE=desktop_3.3.6-2.mga2
+root=UUID=50814013-9adf-4c14-82d2-16fbc8df5ec3 splash quiet
+resume=UUID=6044c21e-9281-406d-8db8-2af56e955dbf vga=788
+root (hd0,0)
+initrd /boot/initrd-3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2.img
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+title desktop 3.7.0-1.mga3
+kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz-3.7.0-desktop-1.mga3
+BOOT_IMAGE=desktop_3.7.0-1.mga3
+root=UUID=50814013-9adf-4c14-82d2-16fbc8df5ec3 splash quiet
+resume=UUID=6044c21e-9281-406d-8db8-2af56e955dbf vga=788
+root (hd0,0)
+initrd /boot/initrd-3.7.0-desktop-1.mga3.img
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+title desktop 3.7.1-1.mga3
+kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz-3.7.1-desktop-1.mga3
+BOOT_IMAGE=desktop_3.7.1-1.mga3
+root=UUID=50814013-9adf-4c14-82d2-16fbc8df5ec3 splash quiet
+resume=UUID=6044c21e-9281-406d-8db8-2af56e955dbf vga=788
+root (hd0,0)
+initrd /boot/initrd-3.7.1-desktop-1.mga3.img
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+/\/\aurice
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+ <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B>
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+<PRE>On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Armando B. &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">hmandevteam at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hi friends,
+</I>&gt;<i> i looking in svn repo for some solution about KVM web management solution,
+</I>&gt;<i> but i haven't founded applications.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I used, for a little virtual cluster, VirtualBox + VbTool + phpVirtualbox
+</I>&gt;<i> (all presents in our repo).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For KVM there is great virt-manager for cli gui but nothing for web gui.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Searching online i saw:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.openqrm-enterprise.com">http://www.openqrm-enterprise.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.ovirt.org/Home">http://www.ovirt.org/Home</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.webvirtmgr.net">https://www.webvirtmgr.net</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://archipelproject.org">http://archipelproject.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://karesansui-project.info/">http://karesansui-project.info/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://code.osuosl.org/projects/ganeti-webmgr">https://code.osuosl.org/projects/ganeti-webmgr</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> packaging of some of these is difficult for dependencies not already in
+</I>&gt;<i> our repo, perhaps ganeti could be more simple to package (in repo missing
+</I>&gt;<i> only 2 packages: python-whoosh and django-fields)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> what do you think about ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Would we have a web management solution for KVM in Mageia ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+While this is something that I would love to see on Mageia, I think it's
+late for inclusion on Mageia 3, version freeze is tomorrow, so even if
+ganeti could be packaged and imported with all of the missing deps today,
+I'm not sure there's enough time to test it before tomorrow's freeze.
+
+Mandriva has a ganeti package, I'm looking at it but as already said,
+probably it's too late for mga 3.
+
+Cheers,
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+<PRE>On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 13:41 +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Liam,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> let me reply to your E-mail - not necessarily disagreeing.
+</I>
+Thanks!
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 02:46:39 -0500
+</I>&gt;<i> Liam R E Quin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">liam at holoweb.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Tried installing 3.0 beta over a Mandriva Cooker system today.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-3-beta1-x86_64-DVD.iso
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can Mandriva Cooker be upgraded to Mageia 3? I don't think it can be (due to
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva's switch to rpm5). Or do you mean you reformatted the relevant
+</I>&gt;<i> partitions and installed a new system?
+</I>
+It's a fresh install, sorry for not being clear.
+
+[...]
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; On boot, there was a long delay followed by &quot;Loading program&quot; and a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; progress bar appearing and disappearing again almost before I had time
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to read the message. This didn't seem optimal.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I see. What are your system's specifications? I think I usually install from a
+</I>&gt;<i> CD (just to have a working system) and then install more packages using urpmi. I
+</I>&gt;<i> am downloading the DVD .iso now and will try it in a VirtualBox VM later to see
+</I>&gt;<i> if I can reproduce any problems.
+</I>
+It's several years old, HP Media Center m7680n with 8G of RAM,
+Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 2.1GHz, DDR2 533MHz memory.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Choice of keyboard - there was a link to wikipedia in the Help text, but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it gave me an error that there was no network. There are two entries for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; US Keyboard with no obvious reason, and a third for US International
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (which I chose since I'm not in the US :-))
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sounds like a bug or at least a problem in the installer. Can you file a bug
+</I>&gt;<i> for it on <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/">https://bugs.mageia.org/</A> ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I have 2 disk drives. the installer wanted to use the spare space on my
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Windows drive, when the other drive already had Linux. Yes, I could
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; choose from the drop-down, but it wasn't clear that I was choosing where
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to put Mageia. Suggest add,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Multiple disk drives found. Choose which one you want to use for the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; main Mageia system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sounds like a good enhancement.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The disk was formatted. That was actually what I wanted, in this case,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but please add a warning that data will be lost - most humans on the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; planet won't know that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, true. Of course, you cannot expect your users to read:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.joelonsoftware.com/uibook/chapters/fog0000000062.html">http://www.joelonsoftware.com/uibook/chapters/fog0000000062.html</A>
+</I>
+No, but Mageia Linux's installer is obviously primarily intended at the
+experienced or dedicated hobbyist or the experienced system
+administrator.
+
+Long term, Magiea needs of course to target (1) people new to Linux,
+whether or not they are new to computers in general, and (2) programmers
+and packagers, to keep the distribution and community alive, whether or
+not they are administrators. This double-headed focus was a lot of the
+success of Mandrake Linux and in fact led to a response from Red Hat -
+Fedora.
+
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; There's no indication of how long the formatting will take,
+</I>[...]
+&gt;<i> &gt; Suggest progress bar or at least some quotes from Moli&#233;re.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Heh. Well, formatting normally did not take too long for me, at least not in
+</I>&gt;<i> its fast formatting mode. But maybe a progress bar will be doable.
+</I>
+I said yes to doing a block scan.
+
+&gt;<i> Oh, bad block scan. :-(. It should be displayed in the graphical installer.
+</I>Yes.
+
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; I'm assuming the graphics and ugly font are not final. If they are, the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; pink stripes look like an error. Maybe caused by running my monitor
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (1920x1200/&quot;deep colour&quot;) in 800x600 16-bit mode.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll see if it happens to me in the installer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The long list of packages being installed - would be nicer to show the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; name of the current package, and its description, and more slowly to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; show a more detailed description of just one program.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> By default the installer does not display the names of the packages installed I
+</I>&gt;<i> think - just a progress bar.
+</I>I don't think I did anything special to get the list of packages, but
+maybe.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; If there was a clear and obvious option to choose the LCD's native
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; resolution, a font like Matthew Carter's Bitstream Charter Italic would
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; look more sophisticated and also get more information on a line.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is it an open font.
+</I>Not sure, it s distributed with the X Window System and xorg.
+We could use something from openfontlibrary too, that's a good point.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Choosing a desktop - help said &quot;broken link&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Shouldn't the help be included inside the installer's media.
+</I>
+Help is there for most other things.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Choosing a desktop - please add versions, not just KDE, GNOME, Other.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not sure versions are a good idea because they may be confusing. I'm also
+</I>&gt;<i> not sure many users who start with Linux will understand the difference between
+</I>&gt;<i> KDE, GNOME or whatever, so maybe we should pick one or the other by default.
+</I>
+Many people know whether they want gnome 2 or 3 right now, and for
+people who don't know the difference it's no more confusing.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Also, I might want both KDE and GNOME installed, so I don't want to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; choose just one and not the other. If I'll get a chance to install more
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; desktops later in the installer, please say so more clearly, not buried
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in help (once the link to help is fixed)...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes.
+</I>
+(there was no such option during install)
+
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; The installer seems much slower than it used to be, but maybe that's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; changes in rpm? Three hours to install packages is a long time. Although
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; having said that, maybe the estimates were just wrong.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How strange. I was able to install Mageia 2 in a VM (from the Dual CD though)
+</I>&gt;<i> in a few minutes.
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; At the end, several hours later, the DVD is ejected and the system tries
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to reboot...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; PANIC cannot mount proc on /proc! Compile the kernel with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; CONFIG_PROC_FS!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hmm. Well, I saw something go by about this on the mailing list so maybe
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I can fix it without another 7-hour download of the DVD image.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Overall, though, the installer needs a huge injection of &quot;slickness&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It's_almost_ there, but in graphic design &quot;almost&quot; doesn't get you a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; cigar.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's true. By the way &#8220;GUI Design&quot; is not graphic design.
+</I>
+No, but graphic design is part of GUI design too :-) There are aspects
+that are subjectives and aspects that are to do with they way human
+vision and perception operate, which is why there are strong elements in
+common e.g. between Hindi, English, Spanish, Hebrew and Arabic.
+
+The things that make &quot;slickness&quot; are more or less constant across
+cultures: align things, treat similar things similarly, use contrast,
+compositional balance, proximity (I love Robin Williams' summary of
+these principles).
+
+Thank you for replying!
+
+Liam
+
+--
+Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, <A HREF="http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/">http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/</A>
+Pictures from old books: <A HREF="http://fromoldbooks.org/">http://fromoldbooks.org/</A>
+Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org freenode/#xml
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+<PRE>On 08/01/13 16:53, Maurice Batey wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 16:35:30 +0000, I wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anyone know of a fix for the above,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The Mageia-3-Alpha2 menu.lst is:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> timeout 10
+</I>&gt;<i> color black/cyan yellow/cyan
+</I>&gt;<i> gfxmenu (hd0,0)/boot/gfxmenu
+</I>&gt;<i> default 3
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> title Mageia-3-Alpha2
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=Mageia-3-Alpha2
+</I>&gt;<i> root=UUID=50814013-9adf-4c14-82d2-16fbc8df5ec3 splash quiet
+</I>&gt;<i> resume=UUID=6044c21e-9281-406d-8db8-2af56e955dbf vga=788
+</I>&gt;<i> root (hd0,0)
+</I>&gt;<i> initrd /boot/initrd.img
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> title linux-nonfb
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=linux-nonfb
+</I>&gt;<i> root=UUID=50814013-9adf-4c14-82d2-16fbc8df5ec3
+</I>&gt;<i> resume=UUID=6044c21e-9281-406d-8db8-2af56e955dbf
+</I>&gt;<i> root (hd0,0)
+</I>&gt;<i> initrd /boot/initrd.img
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> title failsafe
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=failsafe
+</I>&gt;<i> root=UUID=50814013-9adf-4c14-82d2-16fbc8df5ec3 failsafe
+</I>&gt;<i> root (hd0,0)
+</I>&gt;<i> initrd /boot/initrd.img
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> title Mageia-2
+</I>&gt;<i> root (hd0,8)
+</I>&gt;<i> configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> title linux
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=linux
+</I>&gt;<i> root=UUID=50814013-9adf-4c14-82d2-16fbc8df5ec3 splash quiet
+</I>&gt;<i> resume=UUID=6044c21e-9281-406d-8db8-2af56e955dbf vga=788
+</I>&gt;<i> root (hd0,0)
+</I>&gt;<i> initrd /boot/initrd.img
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> title desktop 3.6.5-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz-3.6.5-desktop-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;<i> BOOT_IMAGE=desktop_3.6.5-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;<i> root=UUID=50814013-9adf-4c14-82d2-16fbc8df5ec3 splash quiet
+</I>&gt;<i> resume=UUID=6044c21e-9281-406d-8db8-2af56e955dbf vga=788
+</I>&gt;<i> root (hd0,0)
+</I>&gt;<i> initrd /boot/initrd-3.6.5-desktop-1.mga3.img
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> title desktop 3.3.6-2.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz-3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> BOOT_IMAGE=desktop_3.3.6-2.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> root=UUID=50814013-9adf-4c14-82d2-16fbc8df5ec3 splash quiet
+</I>&gt;<i> resume=UUID=6044c21e-9281-406d-8db8-2af56e955dbf vga=788
+</I>&gt;<i> root (hd0,0)
+</I>&gt;<i> initrd /boot/initrd-3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2.img
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> title desktop 3.7.0-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz-3.7.0-desktop-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;<i> BOOT_IMAGE=desktop_3.7.0-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;<i> root=UUID=50814013-9adf-4c14-82d2-16fbc8df5ec3 splash quiet
+</I>&gt;<i> resume=UUID=6044c21e-9281-406d-8db8-2af56e955dbf vga=788
+</I>&gt;<i> root (hd0,0)
+</I>&gt;<i> initrd /boot/initrd-3.7.0-desktop-1.mga3.img
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> title desktop 3.7.1-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz-3.7.1-desktop-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;<i> BOOT_IMAGE=desktop_3.7.1-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;<i> root=UUID=50814013-9adf-4c14-82d2-16fbc8df5ec3 splash quiet
+</I>&gt;<i> resume=UUID=6044c21e-9281-406d-8db8-2af56e955dbf vga=788
+</I>&gt;<i> root (hd0,0)
+</I>&gt;<i> initrd /boot/initrd-3.7.1-desktop-1.mga3.img
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+It's actually Cauldron you're running Maurice. This issue is known, see
+the ML thread 'Boot borked cause procfs :((' from earlier today.
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+<PRE>On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 17:41 +0000, Claire Robinson wrote:
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+&gt;<i> It's actually Cauldron you're running Maurice. This issue is known, see
+</I>&gt;<i> the ML thread 'Boot borked cause procfs :((' from earlier today.
+</I>
+It's also in the 3.0 beta DVD, as I reported yesterday.
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 17:41 +0000, Claire Robinson wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's actually Cauldron you're running Maurice. This issue is known, see
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the ML thread 'Boot borked cause procfs :((' from earlier today.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's also in the 3.0 beta DVD, as I reported yesterday.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Liam
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+The alphas and betas are snapshots of the current cauldron. Once you
+install any updates you are actually installing cauldron updates and
+using cauldron.
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+<PRE>* Pascal Terjan (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Olivier Thauvin
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The system is installed with grub2-efi but the boot failed with all
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; kernel I've tried: &quot;cannot mount /proc&quot; - &quot;mount return error, no such
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; file or directory&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Any idea ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, it seems a cauldron bug :)
+</I>
+Well I worked around the problem using by force util-linux from mga2 in
+rescue mode.
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+So some notes here about installer, in my case legacy grub1 was not
+usuable so I used grub2 + efi.
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+Two things are need:
+- detect the fat32 partition containing EFI/ directory if any or create
+ it, copy on it the grub2-efi boot code (done %post of grub2)
+- enabling the grub2 boot code, this step is also done in %post fo
+ grub2-efi but it doesn't work in rescue mode because 'efivars' kernel module is not load
+
+Once this is done the grub2 configuration is perfectly updated when I
+install a new kernel.
+
+I can boot windows or mageia by setting the boot order in UEFI.
+
+Regards.
+
+--
+
+Olivier Thauvin
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+There is currently two problem with lvm in cauldron installer:
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+you try to read it by clicking on the lvm partition you get &quot;error
+division by 0&quot; and the installer don't work anymore.
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+Regards.
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+&gt;<i> Another example is the uas kernel module, of which I saw a complaint
+</I>&gt;<i> recently in this mailing list. This module is known to be buggy, and
+</I>&gt;<i> disabled in Debian.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+It's also disabled as broken upstream, in cauldron and in mga2 kernels
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+<PRE><A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root-odJJhXpcy38dnm+yROfE0A at public.gmane.org</A> skrev 8.1.2013 20:06:
+&gt;<i> Revision
+</I>&gt;<i> 343016
+</I>&gt;<i> Author
+</I>&gt;<i> nanardon
+</I>&gt;<i> Date
+</I>&gt;<i> 2013-01-08 19:06:55 +0100 (Tue, 08 Jan 2013)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> provide need /var/run/nscd in nscd package otherwise nscd failed to start
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified Paths
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * cauldron/glibc/current/SPECS/glibc.spec
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;#cauldronglibccurrentSPECSglibcspec&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified: cauldron/glibc/current/SPECS/glibc.spec
+</I>&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;<i> --- cauldron/glibc/current/SPECS/glibc.spec 2013-01-08 17:58:03 UTC (rev 343015)
+</I>&gt;<i> +++ cauldron/glibc/current/SPECS/glibc.spec 2013-01-08 18:06:55 UTC (rev 343016)
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -1041,6 +1041,7 @@
+</I>&gt;<i> install -m 644 %{SOURCE7} %{buildroot}%{_unitdir}/nscd.socket
+</I>&gt;<i> mkdir -p %{buildroot}%{_prefix}/lib/tmpfiles.d/
+</I>&gt;<i> install -m 644 %{SOURCE9} %{buildroot}%{_prefix}/lib/tmpfiles.d/nscd.conf
+</I>&gt;<i> +mkdir -p %{buildroot}%{_var}/run/nscd
+</I>&gt;<i> %endif
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> # These man pages require special attention
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -1673,6 +1674,7 @@
+</I>&gt;<i> %{_unitdir}/nscd.service
+</I>&gt;<i> %{_unitdir}/nscd.socket
+</I>&gt;<i> %{_prefix}/lib/tmpfiles.d/nscd.conf
+</I>&gt;<i> +%{_var}/run/nscd
+</I>&gt;<i> %endif
+</I>
+
+Nope, wrong fix...
+
+if there is something wrong, it must be fixed in SOURCE9 (nscd.conf) as
+/run (to wich /var/run point at) is a tmpfs
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+<PRE>On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 17:41:22 +0000, Claire Robinson wrote:
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+&gt;<i> see
+</I>&gt;<i> the ML thread 'Boot borked cause procfs :(('
+</I>
+ No - can't see that in here...
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+ <B>Olivier Thauvin</B>
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+<PRE>* Thomas Backlund (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root-odJJhXpcy38dnm+yROfE0A at public.gmane.org</A> skrev 8.1.2013 20:06:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Revision
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 343016
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Author
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; nanardon
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Date
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2013-01-08 19:06:55 +0100 (Tue, 08 Jan 2013)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;provide need /var/run/nscd in nscd package otherwise nscd failed to start
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nope, wrong fix...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> if there is something wrong, it must be fixed in SOURCE9 (nscd.conf)
+</I>&gt;<i> as /run (to wich /var/run point at) is a tmpfs
+</I>
+There is no /var/run/nscd in nscd.conf but:
+
+-- Logs begin at Thu, 2012-11-08 21:13:36 CET, end at Thu, 2012-11-08
+21:15:11 CET. --
+Jan 08 19:23:30 localhost.localdomain nscd[2063]: 2063
+/var/run/nscd/socket: No such file or directory
+Jan 08 19:23:30 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: nscd.service never
+wrote its PID file. Failing.
+
+Indeed it's a tmpfs. Obviously this directory exists on my laptop, don't
+know how but on my freshly installed cauldron it does not.
+
+I suspect /var/run/nscd/ is the path also used by glibc to find the nsdc
+socket.
+There is no option in nscd.conf to change it according man page.
+
+I just revert my changes, feel free to fix.
+
+--
+
+Olivier Thauvin
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+&gt;<i> Second list, based on:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://upstream-tracker.org/updates/rosa/2012/all/">http://upstream-tracker.org/updates/rosa/2012/all/</A>
+</I>
+I took another pass through that page and found that I missed a handful!
+
+Sorry about that, here's the ones I missed:
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+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s cfitsio
+&lt;Sophie&gt; Luigi12: For Mageia (cfitsio): eatdirt
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s malo
+&lt;Sophie&gt; For Mageia (dblatex): malo
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s drbd-utils
+&lt;Sophie&gt; For Mageia (drbd-utils): tmb
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s fonts-ttf-thai
+&lt;Sophie&gt; For Mageia (fonts-ttf-thai): dmorgan
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s gypsy
+&lt;Sophie&gt; For Mageia (gypsy): nobody
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s ini4j
+&lt;Sophie&gt; For Mageia (ini4j): nobody
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s jdom
+&lt;Sophie&gt; For Mageia (jdom): dmorgan
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s kawa
+&lt;Sophie&gt; For Mageia (kawa): dmorgan
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s libnfs
+&lt;Sophie&gt; For Mageia (libnfs): anssi
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s mingw32-w32api
+&lt;Sophie&gt; For Mageia (mingw32-w32api): nobody
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s mpd
+&lt;Sophie&gt; For Mageia (mpd): jquelin
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s openobex
+&lt;Sophie&gt; For Mageia (openobex): nobody
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s pmd
+&lt;Sophie&gt; For Mageia (pmd): nobody
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-gpgme
+&lt;Sophie&gt; For Mageia (python-gpgme): philippem
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-m2crypto
+&lt;Sophie&gt; For Mageia (python-m2crypto): philippem
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-pyinotify
+&lt;Sophie&gt; For Mageia (python-pyinotify): philippem
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-routes
+&lt;Sophie&gt; For Mageia (python-routes): neoclust
+&lt;Luigi12&gt; :maint -s python-setuptools
+&lt;Sophie&gt; For Mageia (python-setuptools): philippem
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+<PRE>Op maandag 7 januari 2013 15:39:30 schreef Eatdirt:
+&gt;<i> On 10/23/2012 02:53 PM, Bruno Cornec wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Helo,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm in the process of redeploying automatically my firewall machine,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; using Mageia. For that I'd like to have a very minimal install.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; However, I'm ending up with 580 packages, among them a lot of X11
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; content, whereas I want a text base install only.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree with this, we have some &quot;bugs&quot; in package dependencies. Please,
+</I>&gt;<i> don't hesitate to report them on bugzilla for the next bugfest!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We should also try to fix them. I reported this one months ago, Colin
+</I>&gt;<i> ???? :)))
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7960">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7960</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Chris.
+</I>
+i'm always up for lowering the minimum install.
+
+a while ago, i did some work on that, but they are not easy.
+
+in particular the X libs are pretty difficult to get out.
+
+some of it is due to some drak tools being required by stuff and requiring some
+other stuff.
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+it does mean that for instance some code will need to have some functions
+split off into another class or something... iinm (but this is all quite a
+while back, i'd need to check more on that)
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+&gt;<i> Ok so it's now available at <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Auto_inst">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Auto_inst</A> with an
+</I>&gt;<i> addition and s/Mandriva/Mageia/ done.
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+<PRE>Op zondag 6 januari 2013 23:30:34 schreef Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou:
+&gt;<i> Le 06/01/13 23:03,Joseph Wang nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; vstar
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just looked at vstar. I have several remarks or comments:
+</I>&gt;<i> - there is a typo in the URL
+</I>&gt;<i> - Usually it's better not to have a weird downloading script in SOURCES
+</I>&gt;<i> for svn revisions, but to put it as a comment in the SPEC file.
+</I>
+==&gt; be advised that the build system does NOT have internet access and cannot
+fetch anything.
+
+i too in my packages had to remove those parts.
+
+&gt;<i> - BTW, why can't you use the stable version instead of the svn release?
+</I>&gt;<i> There is a very recent one at
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/projects/vstar/files/2.14.2/">http://sourceforge.net/projects/vstar/files/2.14.2/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you use that one, you can just put as Source0 the sourceforge URL to
+</I>&gt;<i> the archive
+</I>&gt;<i> - your desktop file does not mention an icon, which makes for an blank
+</I>&gt;<i> entry in the menu.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you fix these things, I happy to submit it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
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+&gt;<i> Le 06/01/13 23:22,Joseph Wang nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sure thing. I can start patching some of the rpms that aren't haven't
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; been done yet. However, I was wondering if I can do that with just
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; subversion commit privileges or do I need to be able to submit build
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; requests to do this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To patch, you do not need to submit. But it's good practice to contact
+</I>&gt;<i> the maintainer when you do that: IRC is a fast way to do that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>
+in particular, on #mageia-dev the Sophie bot can tell you which maintainer is
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+also, if it tells nobody, you can still see who last Packaged it
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+<PRE>Op maandag 7 januari 2013 12:18:05 schreef Olivier Thauvin:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We use PXE to install computers, it works very fine for Mageia 2 but it
+</I>&gt;<i> failed with Cauldron with same parameters:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> LABEL manual64bits
+</I>&gt;<i> KERNEL
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/2/x86_64/iso">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/2/x86_64/iso</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> linux/alt0/vmlinuz APPEND
+</I>&gt;<i> initrd=<A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/2/x86">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/2/x86</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> _64/isolinux/alt0/all.rdz
+</I>&gt;<i> automatic=method:http,ser:distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr,dir:/pub/linux/Mag
+</I>&gt;<i> eia/distrib/2/x86_64/,int:eth0,netw:dhcp vga=788
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and for cauldron:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> LABEL manual64bits
+</I>&gt;<i> KERNEL
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> _64/isolinux/alt0/vmlinuz APPEND
+</I>&gt;<i> initrd=<A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauld">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauld</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> ron/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/all.rdz
+</I>&gt;<i> automatic=method:http,ser:distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr,dir:/pub/linux/Mag
+</I>&gt;<i> eia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/,int:eth0,netw:dhcp vga=788
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can see the end of kernel messages but I cannot see the first
+</I>&gt;<i> message...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any idea ?
+</I>
+huh, i never knew that you could specify URLs in pxe configs... for kernel and
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Any idea ?
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+</I>&gt;<i> huh, i never knew that you could specify URLs in pxe configs... for kernel and
+</I>&gt;<i> initrds
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+Me neither, this is very cool actually. If you make it work again
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+We need some help with building libreoffice which fails for a couple months.
+We follow RH packaging, tracking it regularly.
+They successfully packaged LO-4.0b but we fail to compile both 3.6.x &amp; 4.0.
+Which hints that maybe a 3rd party library has broken in the mean time.
+We've tried various tricks w/o much success.
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+We could disable every failing test until it works but others have succeeded.
+Also some very similar errors have been seen by people on both linux &amp; bsd
+with prior releases too.
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+So we need fresh eyes to look for the issue.
+
+4.0 failure:
+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130107211950.tv.valstar.7795/log/libreoffice-4.0.0.0-0.beta2.mga3/build.0.20130107212026.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130107211950.tv.valstar.7795/log/libreoffice-4.0.0.0-0.beta2.mga3/build.0.20130107212026.log</A>
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+3.6 failure:
+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130107210604.tv.valstar.29241/log/libreoffice-3.6.3.2-6.mga3/build.0.20130107210655.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130107210604.tv.valstar.29241/log/libreoffice-3.6.3.2-6.mga3/build.0.20130107210655.log</A>
+
+Here's 4.0 &amp; 3.6 branches:
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/libreoffice/current/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/libreoffice/current/</A>
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/libreoffice/branches/3.6/current/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/libreoffice/branches/3.6/current/</A>
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+So if someone can help (it takes one day for me to locally build).
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+<PRE>Thierry Vignaud skrev 8.1.2013 22:13:
+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We need some help with building libreoffice which fails for a couple months.
+</I>&gt;<i> We follow RH packaging, tracking it regularly.
+</I>&gt;<i> They successfully packaged LO-4.0b but we fail to compile both 3.6.x &amp; 4.0.
+</I>&gt;<i> Which hints that maybe a 3rd party library has broken in the mean time.
+</I>&gt;<i> We've tried various tricks w/o much success.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We could disable every failing test until it works but others have succeeded.
+</I>&gt;<i> Also some very similar errors have been seen by people on both linux &amp; bsd
+</I>&gt;<i> with prior releases too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So we need fresh eyes to look for the issue.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 4.0 failure:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130107211950.tv.valstar.7795/log/libreoffice-4.0.0.0-0.beta2.mga3/build.0.20130107212026.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130107211950.tv.valstar.7795/log/libreoffice-4.0.0.0-0.beta2.mga3/build.0.20130107212026.log</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.6 failure:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130107210604.tv.valstar.29241/log/libreoffice-3.6.3.2-6.mga3/build.0.20130107210655.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130107210604.tv.valstar.29241/log/libreoffice-3.6.3.2-6.mga3/build.0.20130107210655.log</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here's 4.0 &amp; 3.6 branches:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/libreoffice/current/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/libreoffice/current/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/libreoffice/branches/3.6/current/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/libreoffice/branches/3.6/current/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So if someone can help (it takes one day for me to locally build).
+</I>
+it took ~5h for me to build libreoffice-4.0.0.0-6.beta2.mga3 beta on a
+core i7, and x86_64 built ok ???
+
+maybe we should limit LO build to 4 cores ?
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+--
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+<PRE>Op dinsdag 8 januari 2013 21:04:16 schreef eatdirt:
+&gt;<i> On 08/01/13 20:51, AL13N wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Any idea ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; huh, i never knew that you could specify URLs in pxe configs... for kernel
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and initrds
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Me neither, this is very cool actually. If you make it work again
+</I>&gt;<i> Olivier, that would deserve a mini wiki somewhere...
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+<PRE>Op maandag 7 januari 2013 11:33:22 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and AL13N at 04/01/13 16:49 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2. pulseaudio suggests it's i586 counterparts (plz don't)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2. in spec file, requested for closed source 3rd party binaries that
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> are 32bit
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is expected. As several people install third party 32-bit apps that
+</I>&gt;<i> use Audio (e.g. Skype) we suggest that people have the 32-bit alsa libs,
+</I>&gt;<i> pulse plugin and pulse libraries even on 64 bit installs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So either we suggest this or I have to deal with loads of bug reports
+</I>&gt;<i> about why it doesn't work. I prefer the current solution (after
+</I>&gt;<i> suffering the pain of the other option over the years).
+</I>
+granted, however, i would hope for a 3rd option (something like task-32bit-
+compat; being suggested by basesystem: easier to skip 1 package like this) or
+even 4th option that would be even better.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; 3. qtwebkit requires gstreamer (not phonon)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Does qtwebkit use phonon these days? I think it used to use gstreamer
+</I>&gt;<i> directly, but no clue about the current status quo.
+</I>
+if it doesn't it's pretty odd being a package sort of required on KDE to use
+gstreamer instead of phonon. same thing with requiring gnome-keychain.
+
+imho, it should be recoded a bit by the authors to make more of a plugin
+structure if only for such requirements (run time instead of by compile time).
+then again, maybe it can be like this and it just needs to be built with less
+static libs?
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; 5. hugin directly requires make... why would a gui require a buildtool?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> hugin is a bit special tho'. It generates jobs and runs them. Perhaps
+</I>&gt;<i> make is an integral part of this? I don't know specifically. Maybe it
+</I>&gt;<i> used to be many years ago but isn't needed now? Dunno, but having used
+</I>&gt;<i> hugin a bit, it's not super surprising to me to see this here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 6. kipi-plugins suggested by gwenview
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 6. gwenview really uses all kipi-plugins?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Isn't gwenview a kipi-host? It used to be... As such users should be
+</I>&gt;<i> able to access all the kipi functionality from within gwenview.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's not so much that gwenview uses them, but the users of gwenview who
+</I>&gt;<i> may want to use them...
+</I>
+yeah, people pointed this out to me...
+
+well, this is why i asked it.
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+ <B>Frank Griffin</B>
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+<PRE>On 01/08/2013 03:16 PM, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+&gt;<i> Thierry Vignaud skrev 8.1.2013 22:13:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We need some help with building libreoffice which fails for a couple
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> months.
+</I>&gt;<i> it took ~5h for me to build libreoffice-4.0.0.0-6.beta2.mga3 beta on a
+</I>&gt;<i> core i7, and x86_64 built ok ???
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe we should limit LO build to 4 cores ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+So you're saying that the same RPM that fails to build on the
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+<PRE>On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Thierry Vignaud skrev 8.1.2013 22:13:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We need some help with building libreoffice which fails for a couple
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> months.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We follow RH packaging, tracking it regularly.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> They successfully packaged LO-4.0b but we fail to compile both 3.6.x &amp;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 4.0.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Which hints that maybe a 3rd party library has broken in the mean time.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We've tried various tricks w/o much success.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We could disable every failing test until it works but others have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> succeeded.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also some very similar errors have been seen by people on both linux &amp; bsd
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with prior releases too.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So we need fresh eyes to look for the issue.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 4.0 failure:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130107211950.tv.valstar.7795/log/libreoffice-4.0.0.0-0.beta2.mga3/build.0.20130107212026.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130107211950.tv.valstar.7795/log/libreoffice-4.0.0.0-0.beta2.mga3/build.0.20130107212026.log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3.6 failure:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130107210604.tv.valstar.29241/log/libreoffice-3.6.3.2-6.mga3/build.0.20130107210655.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130107210604.tv.valstar.29241/log/libreoffice-3.6.3.2-6.mga3/build.0.20130107210655.log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Here's 4.0 &amp; 3.6 branches:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/libreoffice/current/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/libreoffice/current/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/libreoffice/branches/3.6/current/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/libreoffice/branches/3.6/current/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So if someone can help (it takes one day for me to locally build).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> it took ~5h for me to build libreoffice-4.0.0.0-6.beta2.mga3 beta on a core
+</I>&gt;<i> i7, and x86_64 built ok ???
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe we should limit LO build to 4 cores ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+<PRE>D.Morgan skrev 8.1.2013 23:36:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it took ~5h for me to build libreoffice-4.0.0.0-6.beta2.mga3 beta on a core
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i7, and x86_64 built ok ???
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> maybe we should limit LO build to 4 cores ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> LO 4.0beta2 fails only on i586
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Ok, will kick of a i586 build then tonight, so I'll know more tomorrow
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+:<i>)
+</I>
+--
+Thomas
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+It gives weird bogus results (i586 and x86_64), and breaks some builds.
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+/usr/bin/xdg-desktop-menu: , 28265
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+/usr/bin/xdg-mime: , 28265
+/usr/bin/xdg-open: , 28265
+/usr/bin/xdg-screensaver: , 28265
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+<PRE>* Thierry Vignaud (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 7 January 2013 12:18, Olivier Thauvin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We use PXE to install computers, it works very fine for Mageia 2 but it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; failed with Cauldron with same parameters:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; LABEL manual64bits
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; KERNEL <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/2/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/vmlinuz">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/2/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/vmlinuz</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; APPEND initrd=<A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/2/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/all.rdz">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/2/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/all.rdz</A> automatic=method:http,ser:distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr,dir:/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/2/x86_64/,int:eth0,netw:dhcp vga=788
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and for cauldron:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; LABEL manual64bits
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; KERNEL <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/vmlinuz">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/vmlinuz</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; APPEND initrd=<A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/all.rdz">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/isolinux/alt0/all.rdz</A> automatic=method:http,ser:distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr,dir:/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/,int:eth0,netw:dhcp vga=788
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I can see the end of kernel messages but I cannot see the first
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; message...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> not directly related, but why the &quot;vga=788&quot;. Have you tried without it?
+</I>&gt;<i> And without automatic, do you got stage1 menu?
+</I>
+It's working now, don't know why it was failing...
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+<PRE>On Tuesday, January 08, 2013 04:36:26 AM Oliver Burger wrote:
+&gt;<i> Am 08.01.2013 11:04, schrieb Frederik Himpe:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 10:20:35 -0700, Thomas Spuhler wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; If nobody objects I am going to rebuild php treadsafe
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (--enable-maintainer-zts)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; it is needed for running apache with mpm-module-worker instead of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; prefork and php apache module worker is needed by 389-ds. It is now
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; declared as stable.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; But apache mpm-prefork starts with php compiled treadsafe apache
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; mpm-worker doesn't start with php compiled none-treadsafe
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; You can run PHP with apache2-mpm-worker with mod_fcgid and php5-cgi or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; php5-fpm.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This is what Debian Wheezy's README file for php says:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Using PHP 5 with threaded webservers (e.g. apache2-mpm-worker)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ----------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; After much back-and-forth with upstream (and even building our
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packages thread-safe for a while), we're currently admitting defeat
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; on that front, and are NOT building any thread-safe versions of PHP
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 5 for any webservers. Our recommendation is that, if you need to use
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; a threaded webserver, you should use php5-fpm and interface to your
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; webserver with FastCGI.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I think Mageia is hurting itself by enabling too experimental features.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Another example is the uas kernel module, of which I saw a complaint
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; recently in this mailing list. This module is known to be buggy, and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; disabled in Debian.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's what Oden told me yesterday on IRC.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So as current php maintainer I vote against enabling this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I> I reversed.
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+<PRE>On 9 January 2013 00:03, solbu &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> solbu &lt;solbu&gt; 4.5.10.1-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 343300
+</I>&gt;<i> - Fix unpackaged files
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> + kamil &lt;kamil&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> - requires shorewall-core by shorewall, -lite and shorewall6 equivalents
+</I>&gt;<i> - add /etc/sysconfig/.. to %files
+</I>&gt;<i> - add systemd files to %files
+</I>&gt;<i> - remove 'hash-bang' patch
+</I>&gt;<i> - remove dash dependencies
+</I>&gt;<i> - try to adjust LIBEXEC
+</I>&gt;<i> - adapt .spec for usr move and systemd
+</I>&gt;<i> - define SYSTEMD and SBINDIR in ./configure.pl
+</I>&gt;<i> - remove P0, P1, P2, P3
+</I>&gt;<i> - update %files
+</I>&gt;<i> - new subpackage: shorewall-core
+</I>
+You were told not to do that.
+Now here's the result:
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+Installation failed: file /usr/share/shorewall/lib.base from
+install of shorewall-core-4.5.10.1-1.mga3.noarch conflicts with file
+from package shorewall-4.4.23.1-9.mga2.noarch
+ file /usr/share/shorewall/lib.cli from install of
+shorewall-core-4.5.10.1-1.mga3.noarch conflicts with file from package
+shorewall-4.4.23.1-9.mga2.noarch
+ file /usr/share/shorewall/lib.common from install of
+shorewall-core-4.5.10.1-1.mga3.noarch conflicts with file from package
+shorewall-4.4.23.1-9.mga2.noarch
+ shorewall-core is needed by shorewall-4.5.10.1-1.mga3.noarch
+
+Please revert that non sense split.
+Thx
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+<PRE>On Wednesday 9. January 2013 06.10, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+&gt;<i> You were told not to do that.
+</I>
+Not sure if it's me or kamil you're talking to here, but I was hunting for broken packages on the dependencies.html and build.html list, having the upcomming version freeze in mind. and I found shorewall on one of those lists.
+When I buildt it without changes (the way it was checked in), it complained on several installed but not packaged files.
+So I fixed those. Nothing more. The split is not my doing. :-)=
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+&gt;<i> Please revert that non sense split.
+</I>&gt;<i> Thx
+</I>
+You mean remove the &#171;core&#187; package kamil introduced?
+I can try to do that.
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+ <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B>
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+<PRE>On Wednesday 9. January 2013 07.34, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
+&gt;<i> I was hunting for broken packages on the dependencies.html and build.html list, having the upcomming version freeze in mind. and I found shorewall on one of those lists.
+</I>
+I should add that I only look for packages with no maintainer listed.
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+[RPM] cauldron core/release shorewall-4.5.10.1-1.mga3:
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+&gt;<i> - adapt .spec for usr move and systemd
+</I>
+In that case PATH should not include /sbin and /bin and SHELL should not
+be /bin/... but /usr/bin/...
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+ <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%0A%09shorewall-4.5.10.1-1.mga3&In-Reply-To=%3C201301090806.03916.cooker%40solbu.net%3E"
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+<PRE>On Wednesday 9. January 2013 06.10, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+&gt;<i> Now here's the result:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Installation failed: file /usr/share/shorewall/lib.base from
+</I>&gt;<i> install of shorewall-core-4.5.10.1-1.mga3.noarch conflicts with file
+</I>&gt;<i> from package shorewall-4.4.23.1-9.mga2.noarch
+</I>&gt;<i> file /usr/share/shorewall/lib.cli from install of
+</I>&gt;<i> shorewall-core-4.5.10.1-1.mga3.noarch conflicts with file from package
+</I>&gt;<i> shorewall-4.4.23.1-9.mga2.noarch
+</I>&gt;<i> file /usr/share/shorewall/lib.common from install of
+</I>&gt;<i> shorewall-core-4.5.10.1-1.mga3.noarch conflicts with file from package
+</I>&gt;<i> shorewall-4.4.23.1-9.mga2.noarch
+</I>&gt;<i> shorewall-core is needed by shorewall-4.5.10.1-1.mga3.noarch
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please revert that non sense split.
+</I>
+Upong reading their website, it is a split from upstream as of v4.5.0: <A HREF="ftp://ftp.shorewall.no/pub/shorewall/4.5/shorewall-4.5.0/releasenotes.txt">ftp://ftp.shorewall.no/pub/shorewall/4.5/shorewall-4.5.0/releasenotes.txt</A>
+So I'm unsure as to what to do.
+
+Would an obsoletes/provides solve this?
+E.g.
+Obsoletes: shorewall &lt;4.4.23.1
+Provides: shorewall = %{version}
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+ <B>Armando B.</B>
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+<PRE>I tryed also WebVirtMgr from git repo <A HREF="https://github.com/retspen/webvirtmgr">https://github.com/retspen/webvirtmgr</A>
+
+it need only django python-virtinst httpd mod_python mod_wsgi (all in our
+repo)
+it worked after some modifies:
+1. create webvirtmgr subfolder and copy all files into
+2. launch ./manage.py syncdb into root source folder
+3. modify /etc/sysconfig/libvirtd uncommented LIBVIRTD_ARGS=&quot;--listen&quot;
+4. modify /etc/libvirt/libvirtd.conf as follow:
+ listen_tls = 0
+ listen_tcp = 1
+5. restart libvirtd service
+6. launch internal webserver with ./manage.py runserver 127.0.0.1:8000
+
+in <A HREF="https://www.webvirtmgr.net/docs/">https://www.webvirtmgr.net/docs/</A> is required to add user by using
+saslpasswd2 and THIS IS PROBLEM: saslpasswd2 -a libvirt fred (as sampe)
+don't create passwd.db file. In messages i saw:
+saslpasswd2: could not find auxprop plugin, was searching for [all]
+
+this cause problem with authentication, see images
+<A HREF="http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4402/noauth.jpg">http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4402/noauth.jpg</A>
+
+if we solve this problem could try to use also this web frontend.
+
+have you any idea to fix ?
+
+
+
+2013/1/8 Juan Luis Baptiste &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">juancho at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Armando B. &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">hmandevteam at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi friends,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i looking in svn repo for some solution about KVM web management
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> solution, but i haven't founded applications.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I used, for a little virtual cluster, VirtualBox + VbTool + phpVirtualbox
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (all presents in our repo).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For KVM there is great virt-manager for cli gui but nothing for web gui.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Searching online i saw:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.openqrm-enterprise.com">http://www.openqrm-enterprise.com</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.ovirt.org/Home">http://www.ovirt.org/Home</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.webvirtmgr.net">https://www.webvirtmgr.net</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://archipelproject.org">http://archipelproject.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://karesansui-project.info/">http://karesansui-project.info/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://code.osuosl.org/projects/ganeti-webmgr">https://code.osuosl.org/projects/ganeti-webmgr</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packaging of some of these is difficult for dependencies not already in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> our repo, perhaps ganeti could be more simple to package (in repo missing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> only 2 packages: python-whoosh and django-fields)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> what do you think about ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Would we have a web management solution for KVM in Mageia ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> While this is something that I would love to see on Mageia, I think it's
+</I>&gt;<i> late for inclusion on Mageia 3, version freeze is tomorrow, so even if
+</I>&gt;<i> ganeti could be packaged and imported with all of the missing deps today,
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not sure there's enough time to test it before tomorrow's freeze.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva has a ganeti package, I'm looking at it but as already said,
+</I>&gt;<i> probably it's too late for mga 3.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Juancho
+</I>
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+ comex project - <A HREF="http://comex-project.googlecode.com">http://comex-project.googlecode.com</A>
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+<PRE>On 08/01/2013 17:50, Armando B. wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi friends,
+</I>&gt;<i> i looking in svn repo for some solution about KVM web management
+</I>&gt;<i> solution, but i haven't founded applications.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I used, for a little virtual cluster, VirtualBox + VbTool +
+</I>&gt;<i> phpVirtualbox (all presents in our repo).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For KVM there is great virt-manager for cli gui but nothing for web gui.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Searching online i saw:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.openqrm-enterprise.com">http://www.openqrm-enterprise.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.ovirt.org/Home">http://www.ovirt.org/Home</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.webvirtmgr.net">https://www.webvirtmgr.net</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://archipelproject.org">http://archipelproject.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://karesansui-project.info/">http://karesansui-project.info/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://code.osuosl.org/projects/ganeti-webmgr">https://code.osuosl.org/projects/ganeti-webmgr</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> packaging of some of these is difficult for dependencies not already in
+</I>&gt;<i> our repo, perhaps ganeti could be more simple to package (in repo
+</I>&gt;<i> missing only 2 packages: python-whoosh and django-fields)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> what do you think about ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Would we have a web management solution for KVM in Mageia ?
+</I>
+I started packaging ovirt, but on my Mageia 2 system, and I got stuck on
+a java dependency. I should probably import the packages that succeeded
+so far.
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+&gt;<i> On Wednesday 9. January 2013 06.10, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Now here's the result:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Installation failed: file /usr/share/shorewall/lib.base from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> install of shorewall-core-4.5.10.1-1.mga3.noarch conflicts with file
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> from package shorewall-4.4.23.1-9.mga2.noarch
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> file /usr/share/shorewall/lib.cli from install of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shorewall-core-4.5.10.1-1.mga3.noarch conflicts with file from package
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shorewall-4.4.23.1-9.mga2.noarch
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> file /usr/share/shorewall/lib.common from install of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shorewall-core-4.5.10.1-1.mga3.noarch conflicts with file from package
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shorewall-4.4.23.1-9.mga2.noarch
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shorewall-core is needed by shorewall-4.5.10.1-1.mga3.noarch
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please revert that non sense split.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Upong reading their website, it is a split from upstream as of v4.5.0: <A HREF="ftp://ftp.shorewall.no/pub/shorewall/4.5/shorewall-4.5.0/releasenotes.txt">ftp://ftp.shorewall.no/pub/shorewall/4.5/shorewall-4.5.0/releasenotes.txt</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I'm unsure as to what to do.
+</I>You're the only one, everybody else know...
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+&gt;<i> While this is something that I would love to see on Mageia, I think it's
+</I>&gt;<i> late for inclusion on Mageia 3, version freeze is tomorrow, so even if
+</I>&gt;<i> ganeti could be packaged and imported with all of the missing deps
+</I>&gt;<i> today, I'm not sure there's enough time to test it before tomorrow's freeze.
+</I>version freeze only prevent you to update an existing package, not to
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+&gt;<i> On 08/01/13 20:51, AL13N wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Any idea ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> huh, i never knew that you could specify URLs in pxe configs... for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> kernel and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> initrds
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Me neither, this is very cool actually. If you make it work again
+</I>&gt;<i> Olivier, that would deserve a mini wiki somewhere...
+</I>Unless something changed, tough, there is still a length limit to
+appended parameters (probably 255), so using an URL for initrd is likely
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+<PRE>On Wednesday 9. January 2013 09.22, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; So I'm unsure as to what to do.
+</I>&gt;<i> You're the only one, everybody else know...
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+That's not true, and you ought to know that!
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+But when it first starts, I get a page which states:
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+Get the newest version here.
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+Is this the intended action??
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 08/01/13 18:32 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> * Thomas Backlund (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root-odJJhXpcy38dnm+yROfE0A at public.gmane.org</A> skrev 8.1.2013 20:06:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Revision
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 343016
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Author
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> nanardon
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Date
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2013-01-08 19:06:55 +0100 (Tue, 08 Jan 2013)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> provide need /var/run/nscd in nscd package otherwise nscd failed to start
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nope, wrong fix...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> if there is something wrong, it must be fixed in SOURCE9 (nscd.conf)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as /run (to wich /var/run point at) is a tmpfs
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is no /var/run/nscd in nscd.conf but:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -- Logs begin at Thu, 2012-11-08 21:13:36 CET, end at Thu, 2012-11-08
+</I>&gt;<i> 21:15:11 CET. --
+</I>&gt;<i> Jan 08 19:23:30 localhost.localdomain nscd[2063]: 2063
+</I>&gt;<i> /var/run/nscd/socket: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> Jan 08 19:23:30 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: nscd.service never
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote its PID file. Failing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Indeed it's a tmpfs. Obviously this directory exists on my laptop, don't
+</I>&gt;<i> know how but on my freshly installed cauldron it does not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I suspect /var/run/nscd/ is the path also used by glibc to find the nsdc
+</I>&gt;<i> socket.
+</I>&gt;<i> There is no option in nscd.conf to change it according man page.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just revert my changes, feel free to fix.
+</I>
+There isn't any fix needed as far as I can tell. It was fixed a long,
+long time ago by adding /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/nscd.conf to the package
+which is what Thomas was referring to I believe and it very much does
+refer to /var/run/nscd directory.
+
+Not also that as mentioned to you previously on this list, you should no
+longer package any files in /var/run, /var/lock and /run and instead use
+tmpfiles for this. rpmlint should even reject any such packages with
+such files. Unless I've messed up the rpmlint. Did glibc get through the
+build system like this or was it never submitted?
+
+In order to debug this specific problem, can you check &quot;systemctl status
+systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service&quot; Has this run correctly at boot?
+
+Perhaps the main problem is actually that nscd was installed and then
+you tried to start it immediately without rebooting? It seems that nscd
+package is missing a call to the necessary tmpfiles macro in it's %post
+to ensure that &quot;systemd-tmpfiles --create nscd.conf&quot; is run such that
+this is supported. Can you confirm if you rebooted after installing nscd
+or not so I can put my mind at rest as to what the actual problem is?
+
+More info about the tmpfiles calls and macros here:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/System_Service_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/System_Service_policy</A>
+
+as you can see the missing call in %post nscd is simply:
+%_tmpfilescreate %{name}
+
+Cheers
+
+Col
+
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+ <B>Anne Nicolas</B>
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+ <I>Wed Jan 9 11:35:45 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>Dear fellow packagers
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+Some important information for coming weeks, until final release:
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+- See new planning as already mentionned in a previous mail
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_3_development#Development_Planning">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_3_development#Development_Planning</A>
+We will start to work on Beta 2 isos this we.
+
+- version freeze: it's planned for tonight. It means no new version will
+be allowed after. Only release updates can be done. If you want to see
+an exception for version freeze please mail here why we should accept it
+
+- mass rebuild: it will start after version freeze is on. pterjan will
+inform you about it. It should take about one day to have all rebuilt,
+increasing release number first.
+As a reminder have a look on <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/</A> for
+the results.
+
+************************
+After proposal during yesterdays meeting, all packages that failed to
+rebuild and not fixed before final release will be removed from distro.
+Please help us to review them even if you are not the maintainer.
+************************
+
+- release critical bugs: have a look on
+<A HREF="https://bugs.magleia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=P1">https://bugs.magleia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=P1</A>
+
+What is a release critical bug ? We could define it as a bug that makes
+official iso hardly usable and that cannot be fixed through further
+updates.
+
+This list will be reviewed every week until final release. This is
+important to avoid fixing it 2 weeks before in a hurry (which happened
+in both previous releases). We will poke packagers and testers so that
+we can get some fix quite quickly.
+
+Again happy new year 2013, keep on the good work !
+
+Cheers
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A>
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+ <B>Manuel Hiebel</B>
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+<PRE>Le 09/01/2013 09:51, Robert Fox a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> After latest Cauldron updates - Firefox was updated to 17.0.2 ESR
+</I>&gt;<i> But when it first starts, I get a page which states:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Your Firefox is out of date.
+</I>&gt;<i> Get the newest version here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The latest is 18
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is this the intended action??
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thx,
+</I>&gt;<i> R.Fox
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+If it is really the ESR channel you should open a bugs for mozilla.org
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 09/01/13 10:11 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 08/01/13 18:32 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * Thomas Backlund (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root-odJJhXpcy38dnm+yROfE0A at public.gmane.org</A> skrev 8.1.2013 20:06:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Revision
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 343016
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Author
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> nanardon
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Date
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2013-01-08 19:06:55 +0100 (Tue, 08 Jan 2013)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> provide need /var/run/nscd in nscd package otherwise nscd failed to start
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Nope, wrong fix...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> if there is something wrong, it must be fixed in SOURCE9 (nscd.conf)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> as /run (to wich /var/run point at) is a tmpfs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There is no /var/run/nscd in nscd.conf but:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -- Logs begin at Thu, 2012-11-08 21:13:36 CET, end at Thu, 2012-11-08
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 21:15:11 CET. --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Jan 08 19:23:30 localhost.localdomain nscd[2063]: 2063
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /var/run/nscd/socket: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Jan 08 19:23:30 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: nscd.service never
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrote its PID file. Failing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Indeed it's a tmpfs. Obviously this directory exists on my laptop, don't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> know how but on my freshly installed cauldron it does not.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I suspect /var/run/nscd/ is the path also used by glibc to find the nsdc
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> socket.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There is no option in nscd.conf to change it according man page.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I just revert my changes, feel free to fix.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There isn't any fix needed as far as I can tell. It was fixed a long,
+</I>&gt;<i> long time ago by adding /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/nscd.conf to the package
+</I>&gt;<i> which is what Thomas was referring to I believe and it very much does
+</I>&gt;<i> refer to /var/run/nscd directory.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not also that as mentioned to you previously on this list, you should no
+</I>&gt;<i> longer package any files in /var/run, /var/lock and /run and instead use
+</I>&gt;<i> tmpfiles for this. rpmlint should even reject any such packages with
+</I>&gt;<i> such files. Unless I've messed up the rpmlint. Did glibc get through the
+</I>&gt;<i> build system like this or was it never submitted?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In order to debug this specific problem, can you check &quot;systemctl status
+</I>&gt;<i> systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service&quot; Has this run correctly at boot?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps the main problem is actually that nscd was installed and then
+</I>&gt;<i> you tried to start it immediately without rebooting? It seems that nscd
+</I>&gt;<i> package is missing a call to the necessary tmpfiles macro in it's %post
+</I>&gt;<i> to ensure that &quot;systemd-tmpfiles --create nscd.conf&quot; is run such that
+</I>&gt;<i> this is supported. Can you confirm if you rebooted after installing nscd
+</I>&gt;<i> or not so I can put my mind at rest as to what the actual problem is?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> More info about the tmpfiles calls and macros here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/System_Service_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/System_Service_policy</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> as you can see the missing call in %post nscd is simply:
+</I>&gt;<i> %_tmpfilescreate %{name}
+</I>
+Actually, it's &quot;%_tmpfilescreate nscd&quot; due to it being a sub package.
+
+Correct fix should be:
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=343643">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=343643</A>
+
+
+If it looks good, feel free to bump and push :)
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+ <B>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou</B>
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+<PRE>Dear Packagers,
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+As a final amendment to the RPM group policy for Mageia 3, the following
+changes were made yesterday:
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+- creation of Games/Simulation
+- Graphics/Editors renamed as Graphics/Editors and Converters
+- Graphics/Other renamed as Graphics/Utilities
+- Office/Other renamed as Office/Utilities
+- removal of Sound/Visualization
+- creation of Video/Television
+
+The renames will be handled by scripts, so do not worry about them.
+However, feel free to use the two new groups: Games/Simulation and
+Video/Television.
+
+I remind you that the policy is at:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/RPM_groups_policy#List_of_official_groups">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/RPM_groups_policy#List_of_official_groups</A>
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+Thanks a lot !
+--
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+<PRE>On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 16:35:30 +0000, I wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Anyone know of a fix for the above, please?
+</I>
+ Is there really no way of rescuing my updated MGA3-cauldron
+installation from the Kernel Panic showstopper?
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+--
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Maurice Batey at 09/01/13 13:00 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Is there really no way of rescuing my updated MGA3-cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> installation from the Kernel Panic showstopper?
+</I>
+There are many ways...
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+If you are lucky you will have *.old initrds so just edit your grub
+prompt to use initrd.img.old rather than initrd.img (via text mode in grub)
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+Failing that, boot with a rescue dvd, chroot into your install and force
+the install of util-linux from mga2. Then regenerate your initrd.
+
+Failing massive filesystem corruption it's almost always possible to
+rescue things - just takes varying degrees of effort! :)
+
+Col
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+--
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> version freeze only prevent you to update an existing package, not to
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+</I> Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh I didn't knew this, thanks !!
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+For new packages, when would be the deadline ?
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Juan Luis Baptiste at 09/01/13 14:33 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Guillaume Rousse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> version freeze only prevent you to update an existing package, not
+</I>&gt;<i> to introduce a new one.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh I didn't knew this, thanks !!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For new packages, when would be the deadline ?
+</I>
+I think it's probably the same as release freeze. That's when we all
+have to justify pretty much everything. Until that point we can all
+break things via provides/requires as much as a new package so I think
+this is the correct point to call a cut off for new packages (of course
+exceptions can always be made - the main risk with new packages is that
+they provide something (in the spec) that is also provided by another
+package and thus are pulled in accidentally - if this can be shown to be
+very unlikely to cause problems for a given package then it could get an
+exception. Obviously we should not encourage this :)
+
+Col
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> If you are lucky you will have *.old initrds so just edit your grub prompt
+</I>&gt;<i> to use initrd.img.old rather than initrd.img (via text mode in grub)
+</I>
+ Where are such initrd.img.old files found?
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:21:06 +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you are lucky you will have *.old initrds so just edit your grub prompt
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to use initrd.img.old rather than initrd.img (via text mode in grub)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Where are such initrd.img.old files found?
+</I>
+We all assume that, with a boot cd, live dvd, you can mount your root
+partition /somewhere
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+ls -trl /somewhere/boot/
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+and try to find a initrd-x.x.x which has been generated before the bug.
+In my case, I got:
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+initrd-3.6.5-tmb-desktop-3.mga3.img
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+and I have also the kernel
+
+vmlinuz-3.6.5-tmb-desktop-3.mga3
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+(thanks to master tmb)
+
+Now add a new entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst referring to compatible
+versions of initrd (not corrupted) and vmlinuz (be inspired by the ones
+already written in this file)
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+Reboot et select these ones.
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Maurice Batey at 09/01/13 15:24 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:21:06 +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you are lucky you will have *.old initrds so just edit your grub prompt
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to use initrd.img.old rather than initrd.img (via text mode in grub)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Where are such initrd.img.old files found?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (No such files anywhere in its menu.lst.)
+</I>
+They won't be listed in menu.lst. They are just backup files.
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+They are found in /boot if they exist at all.
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+Like I say just try booting as normal but edit which initrd to use via
+the grub command line.
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+It has worked for some users. Maybe you're lucky too.
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+Col
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+<PRE>Hello,
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+Before starting the mass rebuild of all packages, we need to review the
+changes that have been commited to svn, but are not included in the
+packages repository (because they were not submitted, or because the
+build failed). Here is the list of those packages :
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+ORBit2
+Xdialog
+a52dec
+abbot
+abiword-docs
+aggregate
+aiksaurus
+alsa-oss
+apache-commons-chain
+apache-commons-discovery
+apache-commons-jexl
+apache-commons-lang
+apache-james-project
+apache-poi
+apt-mga
+atlas
+atool
+atop
+audiothumbs
+axion
+backintime
+banshee
+bchunk
+binutils
+btm
+caboodle
+cairo-dock-themes
+caribou
+castor
+catfish
+ccss
+cduce
+celestia
+celtx
+cglib21
+checklink
+chromium-browser-beta
+clipart-openclipart
+clipgrab
+clojure-maven-plugin
+cloog-ppl
+clustalx
+crawl
+cross-avr-gcc
+d-haven-event
+db53
+desktopcouch
+dillo
+ding
+dmidecode
+draksnapshot
+drakx-net
+drascula
+dump
+dvdrip
+easytag
+eclipse-birt
+eclipse-eclemma
+eclipse-mylyn
+eclipse-mylyn-context
+eclipselink
+elementary-icon-theme
+emacs-ess
+exif
+fbreader
+felix-shell
+festvox-suopuhe-lj
+ffmulticonverter
+fgrun
+firefox-aurora
+firefox-ext-mozvoikko
+flight-of-the-amazon-queen
+foomatic-db
+freehep-chartableconverter-plugin
+frogr
+fusiondirectory
+fusioninventory-agent-task-esx
+fusioninventory-agent-task-network
+ganglia
+gant
+gcl
+gdlmm
+geoip
+gimp-help
+gir-repository
+glibc
+gloobus-preview
+gluegen
+glusterfs
+gnome-desktop
+gnome-dictionary
+gnutls
+gob2
+grail
+gstreamer1.0-plugins-base
+gstreamer1.0-plugins-good
+gtk+3.0
+gupnp-dlna
+hedgewars
+hibernate-commons-annotations
+hicolor-icon-theme
+highlight
+hitori
+html2ps
+hunspell-om
+ibus
+ibus-anthy
+imspector
+inn
+jackrabbit
+jansi-native
+jas-plotter
+jboss-interceptor
+jboss-msc
+jboss-remoting
+jboss-remoting-jmx
+jbosscache-core
+jbossweb
+jbossws-common
+jchkmail
+jetty-version-maven-plugin
+jgraphx
+jlayer
+jogl2
+jp2a
+jsslutils
+kannasaver
+kaptain
+kaption
+kaudiocreator
+kawa
+kde4-style-iaora
+kdepimlibs4
+kernel
+keytool-maven-plugin
+klibc
+kmediafactory
+kolena
+lcdproc
+libbonobo
+libcdio
+libdca
+libdvdcss
+libfm
+libguess
+libkolab
+libkolabxml
+libmusicbrainz3
+libneon0.27
+libnfs
+libnl
+libopensync-plugin-akonadi
+libquicktime
+libreoffice
+lshw
+mageia-maintainers-database
+mageia-release
+marble
+mathomatic
+maven-assembly-plugin
+maven-changes-plugin
+maven-jar-plugin
+maven-javadoc-plugin
+maven-project-info-reports-plugin
+maven-toolchains-plugin
+maven-war-plugin
+mcabber
+mihphoto
+mingw32-binutils
+ml85p
+monotone
+mpgtx
+mumble
+mysql-connector-java
+mythplugins
+nagios-plugins
+nepomukextras
+nepomukshell
+net-tools
+netbeans
+netbeans-platform
+networkmanager-openvpn
+nfoview
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+nss_updatedb
+null
+obex-data-server
+ocaml-expat
+ocaml-sqlite3
+openldap-extra-schemas
+openorb-evaluator
+openscenegraph
+openttd-opengfx
+pdftk
+perl
+perl-Algorithm-RectanglesContainingDot
+perl-Authen-Htpasswd
+perl-B-C
+perl-CGI-Session
+perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Authentication-Store-Htpasswd
+perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Compress-Zlib
+perl-Class-C3-Componentised
+perl-Config-Any
+perl-DBIx-Class-Cursor-Cached
+perl-DBIx-Class-Schema-Loader
+perl-DateTime-Set
+perl-Device-Cdio
+perl-Dist-Zilla-Plugin-BumpVersionFromGit
+perl-Dist-Zilla-Plugin-Conflicts
+perl-Dist-Zilla-Plugin-Prepender
+perl-Dist-Zilla-Plugin-Test-CPAN-Changes
+perl-Dist-Zilla-PluginBundle-AVAR
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+perl-File-ShareDir-Install
+perl-File-Spec-Native
+perl-Gimp
+perl-Gtk2-Ex-FormFactory
+perl-HTML-Format
+perl-HTML-SimpleLinkExtor
+perl-HTML-Tidy
+perl-HTTP-Proxy
+perl-IO-Null
+perl-Image-Base-SVG
+perl-MARC-Charset
+perl-Math-BaseCalc
+perl-Math-Int64
+perl-Meta-Builder
+perl-Module-Signature
+perl-MooseX-Declare
+perl-ORLite-Pod
+perl-Pod-PseudoPod
+perl-Pod-PseudoPod-LaTeX
+perl-Proc-Simple
+perl-Prophet
+perl-SOAP-WSDL
+perl-Schedule-RateLimiter
+perl-Search-Sitemap
+perl-Sys-Info-Base
+perl-TAP-Formatter-HTML
+perl-Tapper-CLI
+perl-Tapper-Reports-Receiver
+perl-Tapper-Reports-Web
+perl-Tapper-Schema
+perl-Tapper-Testplan
+perl-Test-Common
+perl-Test-Kwalitee
+perl-Test-Mock-LWP
+perl-Test-Reporter
+perl-Text-FixEOL
+perl-WebService-Solr
+perl-XML-Generator
+perl-criticism
+perl-namespace-autoclean
+perl_checker
+photo
+php-ZendFramework
+php-lime
+php-memtrack
+php-pear-Mail_Mime
+php-pear-PHP_Fork
+php-pear-Testing_Selenium
+pidgin-privacy-please
+plasma-applet-eventlist
+playmidi
+plexus-active-collections
+plexus-cipher
+plexus-compiler
+plexus-digest
+plexus-interactivity
+plotutils
+plplot
+ppl
+prelink
+prison
+ps3mediaserver
+pslib
+python-GnuPG-Interface
+python-alsaaudio
+python-cairo
+python-django-piston
+python-scikits-learn
+python-turpial
+qgis
+qjoypad
+qmf
+qtdoc5
+qtfm
+qtquick5
+qttools5
+qutecom
+rabbitmq-server
+rasmol
+regexxer
+rhythmbox
+rome
+rpmlint
+rpmlint-mageia-policy
+rpmtools
+ruby-fastthread
+ruby-fcgi
+ruby-gd
+ruby-linecache
+ruby-mocha
+ruby-rbogl
+ruby-ruby-debug
+ruby-ruby-debug-base
+ruby-sary
+rxtx
+sbcl
+scilab
+setools
+sfml
+shapelib
+shared-desktop-ontologies
+shorewall
+shrinkwrap
+silicon
+simple-scan
+skanlite
+soundtouch
+sparkleshare
+stepmania
+svnkit
+swatch
+swftools
+tailor
+task-games
+tcl
+telepathy-farstream
+telepathy-idle
+telepathy-launcher-kded
+tellico
+thrift
+tmux
+tomcat
+torque
+trader
+transfugdrake
+tree
+trove4j
+typica
+uClibc
+ufoai
+ultracopier
+ultrastardx
+unfs3
+usbutils
+util-vserver
+vassal
+vdr-plugin-osdpip
+vegastrike
+virtuoso-opensource
+warzone2100
+warzone2100-videos-low
+wmhdplop
+ws-jaxme
+x11-driver-video-newport
+x11-driver-video-qxl
+x11-driver-video-sisimedia
+x11-driver-video-xgi
+xbmc
+xemacs
+xfce4-weather-plugin
+xinput_calibrator
+xmldb-api
+xmlrpc
+xonotic
+xsettings-kde
+xvidcap
+yum-metadata-parser
+zenity
+zinnia-tomoe
+ziproxy
+zypper
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+To review the changes for a package :
+ svn diff <A HREF="svn://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/[pkgname">svn://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/[pkgname</A>]/pristine \
+ <A HREF="svn://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/[pkgname">svn://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/[pkgname</A>]/current
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+Or you can find all the diffs in this file :
+<A HREF="http://people.hupstream.com/~boklm/mageia/modified_packages-20130108.txt">http://people.hupstream.com/~boklm/mageia/modified_packages-20130108.txt</A>
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+ <B>David Walser</B>
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+<PRE>Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+&gt;<i> Le 08/01/2013 02:54, David Walser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Different permissions:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; [cjw &lt;at&gt; hactar audit]$ ls -ld usr/lib64/audit /usr/lib64/audit
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 27 Jan 2 15:06 /usr/lib64/audit
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; drwxr-x--- 2 cjw cjw 6 Jan 8 02:34 usr/lib64/audit
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 750 appears to be the correct permissions, so I guess attr should be used
+</I>&gt;<i> to explicitly set it in glibc as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why 'correct' ? Unless there is an explicit and objective reason,
+</I>&gt;<i> directory permission should always be 755.
+</I>
+I looked into this some more, the way it &quot;normally&quot; works is glibc installs
+the directory as 755, but if you install the audit package it changes it to
+750. I guess this capability is now broken or, ahem, not supported, in rpm.
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+The impact that the permissions of this directory has, is it affects whether
+or not regular users are able to use the sotruss command. Perhaps it would
+be better to handle that via msec.
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+&gt;<i> initrd-3.6.5-tmb-desktop-3.mga3.img
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and I have also the kernel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> vmlinuz-3.6.5-tmb-desktop-3.mga3
+</I>
+ OK - found /boot/initrd-3-7-0-desktop-1-mga3.img and
+ /boot/vmlinuz-3.7-0-desktop-1.mga3
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+(The latest (panicky) kernel is 3.7.1.)
+
+and - in menu.lst - replaced:
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+ /boot/vmlinuz with
+ /boot/vmlinuz-3.7-0-desktop-1.mga3
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+and
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+ initrd /boot/initrd.img with
+ initrd /boot/initrd-3-7-0-desktop-1-mga3.img
+
+in a clone of the 'official' (but kernel panic) stanza.
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+But although a reboot starts well, after 6 lines the action *hangs* at
+the 'initrd' line.
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Any idea ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> huh, i never knew that you could specify URLs in pxe configs... for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> kernel and initrds
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Me neither, this is very cool actually. If you make it work again
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Olivier, that would deserve a mini wiki somewhere...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Unless something changed, tough, there is still a length limit to appended
+</I>&gt;<i> parameters (probably 255), so using an URL for initrd is likely to reach
+</I>&gt;<i> this limit earlier.
+</I>
+good point!
+it's supposed to be fixed with kernel-2.6.26 but I guess some boot loaders
+do not use the latest boot protocol (/usr/share/doc/kernel-doc/x86/boot.txt)
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+&gt;<i>and - in menu.lst - replaced:
+</I>
+&gt;<i>But although a reboot starts well, after 6 lines the action *hangs* at
+</I>&gt;<i>the 'initrd' line.
+</I>
+If you change menu.lst, you also have to execute /boot/grub/install.sh,
+else it does not have any effect.
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+&gt;<i> Hi friends,
+</I>&gt;<i> i looking in svn repo for some solution about KVM web management solution,
+</I>&gt;<i> but i haven't founded applications.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I used, for a little virtual cluster, VirtualBox + VbTool + phpVirtualbox
+</I>&gt;<i> (all presents in our repo).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For KVM there is great virt-manager for cli gui but nothing for web gui.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Searching online i saw:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.openqrm-enterprise.com">http://www.openqrm-enterprise.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.ovirt.org/Home">http://www.ovirt.org/Home</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.webvirtmgr.net">https://www.webvirtmgr.net</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://archipelproject.org">http://archipelproject.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://karesansui-project.info/">http://karesansui-project.info/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://code.osuosl.org/projects/ganeti-webmgr">https://code.osuosl.org/projects/ganeti-webmgr</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> packaging of some of these is difficult for dependencies not already in our
+</I>&gt;<i> repo, perhaps ganeti could be more simple to package (in repo missing only
+</I>&gt;<i> 2 packages: python-whoosh and django-fields)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> what do you think about ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Would we have a web management solution for KVM in Mageia ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> regards :)
+</I>
+for dayjob, i had looked for a cross platform solution (likely web) that could
+do KVM &amp; Xen (through libvirt) and also preferably VMWare ...
+
+i found out that there is no really good one, the ones coming closest were
+OpenStack(way too complex) and ovirt(too hard to configure correctly, and a bit
+too RH-minded). Most of the others can't work on existing systems or are
+entirely KVM minded, and most are too complex and deal with deployment and
+storage, while imho that's not a good idea, it's likely better to use puppet
+for deployment.
+
+at some point we had an intern who started php libvirtd based HTML5 webclient
+with spice, and has the basics almost ready(i followed up on him), but he had
+to relook into his internship and sort of restart it with other topic... :-(
+
+our dayjob plan was to release this open source, i don't think this changed. I
+do am planning to continue it, even if it's only for our own internal use. I
+had planned on finishing it (and subsequently packaging it), but i do need to
+find the time. :-(
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 19:13:14 +0000, Maurice Batey wrote about Re:
+</I>&gt;<i> [Mageia-dev] Kernel Panic after latest Mageia-3-Alpha2 s/w update c:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and - in menu.lst - replaced:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But although a reboot starts well, after 6 lines the action *hangs* at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the 'initrd' line.
+</I>
+If this was a previous kernel installed on this partition, then your
+menu.lst should already have a version-specific entry for it. Try
+booting that directly without modifying anything. Also, bug 8614 for
+all this was just fixed.
+
+&gt;<i> If you change menu.lst, you also have to execute /boot/grub/install.sh,
+</I>&gt;<i> else it does not have any effect.
+</I>
+I used to think that, but was recently corrected by Barry Jackson, and
+found that it wasn't the case, at least for modifying labels and such.
+Maybe there's something special about the kernel/initrd specifications, tho.
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+ <B>Olivier Thauvin</B>
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+<PRE>* Thierry Vignaud (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 9 January 2013 09:26, Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Any idea ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; huh, i never knew that you could specify URLs in pxe configs... for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; kernel and initrds
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Me neither, this is very cool actually. If you make it work again
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Olivier, that would deserve a mini wiki somewhere...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Unless something changed, tough, there is still a length limit to appended
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; parameters (probably 255), so using an URL for initrd is likely to reach
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; this limit earlier.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> good point!
+</I>&gt;<i> it's supposed to be fixed with kernel-2.6.26 but I guess some boot loaders
+</I>&gt;<i> do not use the latest boot protocol (/usr/share/doc/kernel-doc/x86/boot.txt)
+</I>&gt;<i> or still silently cut after 255/256 bytes.
+</I>
+The command line lenght is not the problem as it was working before and
+is working again since yesterday.
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+Regards.
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+<PRE>I've looked at 38.5% of the ones on the list. The ones I didn't look at are at
+the bottom. I've categorized the ones I looked at. The first four categories
+are ones that are OK and won't affect the mass rebuild (though the ones in the
+fourth category might need svn mv'd), the rest require further action.
+
+simple cleaning, won't affect rebuild
+------------------------------------------
+a52dec
+alsa-oss
+dmidecode
+drakx-net
+dump
+exif
+foomatic-db
+hicolor-icon-theme
+libcdio
+libdca
+libdvdcss
+mageia-release
+mpgtx
+nspluginwrapper
+php-ZendFramework
+rpmtools
+shared-desktop-ontologies
+xsettings-kde
+
+Other, won't affect rebuild
+---------------------------
+kdepimlibs4 - adds a conflits and obsoletes tag
+libmusicbrainz3 - mostly cosmetic changes, confirmed builds in Cauldron
+libneon0.27 - mostly cosmetic changes, confirmed builds in Cauldron
+lshw - changes one make variable, confirmed builds in Cauldron
+prison - adds a provides to the devel package, other changes are only cosmetic
+rpmlint - minor change, only affects infra_1
+
+last change was a successful build, shouldn't have been on the list
+-------------------------------------------------------------------
+ccss
+eclipse-birt
+eclipse-eclemma
+eclipselink
+gnutls
+hedgewars
+jsslutils
+libbonobo
+nss_updatedb
+plexus-active-collections
+plexus-compiler
+plplot
+pslib
+rhythmbox
+rpmlint-mageia-policy
+shorewall
+vegastrike
+xbmc
+
+has been removed according to pterjan's autobuild page (might need svn mv'd to
+obsolete)
+------------------------------------------------------
+axion
+btm
+d-haven-event
+
+pending changes, needs checked by maintainer
+--------------------------------------------
+marble
+python-cairo
+tomcat
+
+updates to a new version - danger!
+----------------------------------
+tcl
+telepathy-idle
+transfugdrake
+tree
+usbutils
+
+does not build
+--------------
+ORBit2
+abbot
+abiword-docs
+apache-commons-lang
+apt-mga
+atlas
+binutils
+cduce
+celestia
+celtx
+chromium-browser-beta
+cross-avr-gcc
+eclipse-mylyn
+eclipse-mylyn-context
+freehep-chartableconverter-plugin
+gant
+gcl
+gdlmm
+gimp-help
+gloobus-preview
+hibernate-commons-annotations
+highlight
+imspector
+jansi-native
+jboss-remoting-jmx
+jbosscache-core
+jbossweb
+jbossws-common
+jchkmail
+jetty-version-maven-plugin
+kawa
+kde4-style-iaora
+kernel
+keytool-maven-plugin
+klibc
+kmediafactory
+kolena
+libkolabxml
+libreoffice
+maven-changes-plugin
+maven-project-info-reports-plugin
+maven-toolchains-plugin
+mcabber
+mumble
+mysql-connector-java
+nagios-plugins
+nepomukextras
+net-tools
+netbeans
+netbeans-platform
+nss_ldap
+openttd-opengfx
+pdftk
+perl-B-C
+perl-Device-Cdio
+perl-Gimp
+perl-SOAP-WSDL
+php-memtrack
+plexus-digest
+plexus-interactivity
+plotutils
+prelink
+qgis
+qjoypad
+qmf
+qtquick5
+qttools5
+qutecom
+regexxer
+ruby-fastthread
+ruby-fcgi
+ruby-gd
+ruby-linecache
+ruby-mocha
+ruby-rbogl
+ruby-ruby-debug
+ruby-ruby-debug-base
+ruby-sary
+sbcl
+scilab
+setools
+soundtouch
+stepmania
+svnkit
+swftools
+tellico
+typica
+uClibc
+ultrastardx
+vdr-plugin-osdpip
+virtuoso-opensource
+x11-driver-video-newport
+x11-driver-video-qxl
+x11-driver-video-sisimedia
+x11-driver-video-xgi
+ziproxy
+
+still needs to be checked (I didn't look at these at all)
+-------------------------
+Xdialog
+aggregate
+aiksaurus
+apache-commons-chain
+apache-commons-discovery
+apache-commons-jexl
+apache-james-project
+apache-poi
+atool
+atop
+audiothumbs
+backintime
+banshee
+bchunk
+caboodle
+cairo-dock-themes
+caribou
+castor
+catfish
+cglib21
+checklink
+clipart-openclipart
+clipgrab
+clojure-maven-plugin
+cloog-ppl
+clustalx
+crawl
+db53
+desktopcouch
+dillo
+ding
+draksnapshot
+drascula
+dvdrip
+easytag
+eclipselink
+elementary-icon-theme
+emacs-ess
+fbreader
+felix-shell
+festvox-suopuhe-lj
+ffmulticonverter
+fgrun
+firefox-aurora
+firefox-ext-mozvoikko
+flight-of-the-amazon-queen
+frogr
+fusiondirectory
+fusioninventory-agent-task-esx
+fusioninventory-agent-task-network
+ganglia
+geoip
+gir-repository
+glibc
+gluegen
+glusterfs
+gnome-desktop
+gnome-dictionary
+gob2
+grail
+gstreamer1.0-plugins-base
+gstreamer1.0-plugins-good
+gtk+3.0
+gupnp-dlna
+hitori
+html2ps
+hunspell-om
+ibus
+ibus-anthy
+inn
+jackrabbit
+jas-plotter
+jboss-interceptor
+jboss-msc
+jboss-remoting
+jgraphx
+jlayer
+jogl2
+jp2a
+kannasaver
+kaptain
+kaption
+kaudiocreator
+lcdproc
+libfm
+libguess
+libkolab
+libnfs
+libnl
+libopensync-plugin-akonadi
+libquicktime
+mageia-maintainers-database
+mathomatic
+maven-assembly-plugin
+maven-jar-plugin
+maven-javadoc-plugin
+maven-war-plugin
+mihphoto
+mingw32-binutils
+ml85p
+monotone
+mythplugins
+nepomukshell
+networkmanager-openvpn
+nfoview
+null
+obex-data-server
+ocaml-expat
+ocaml-sqlite3
+openldap-extra-schemas
+openorb-evaluator
+openscenegraph
+perl
+perl-Algorithm-RectanglesContainingDot
+perl-Authen-Htpasswd
+perl-CGI-Session
+perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Authentication-Store-Htpasswd
+perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Compress-Zlib
+perl-Class-C3-Componentised
+perl-Config-Any
+perl-DBIx-Class-Cursor-Cached
+perl-DBIx-Class-Schema-Loader
+perl-DateTime-Set
+perl-Dist-Zilla-Plugin-BumpVersionFromGit
+perl-Dist-Zilla-Plugin-Conflicts
+perl-Dist-Zilla-Plugin-Prepender
+perl-Dist-Zilla-Plugin-Test-CPAN-Changes
+perl-Dist-Zilla-PluginBundle-AVAR
+perl-Dist-Zilla-PluginBundle-FLORA
+perl-Dist-Zilla-PluginBundle-IDOPEREL
+perl-Dist-Zilla-PluginBundle-MSCHOUT
+perl-Dist-Zilla-PluginBundle-ROKR
+perl-Dist-Zilla-Role-DynamicConfig
+perl-Exporter-Declare
+perl-File-NFSLock
+perl-File-ShareDir-Install
+perl-File-Spec-Native
+perl-Gtk2-Ex-FormFactory
+perl-HTML-Format
+perl-HTML-SimpleLinkExtor
+perl-HTML-Tidy
+perl-HTTP-Proxy
+perl-IO-Null
+perl-Image-Base-SVG
+perl-MARC-Charset
+perl-Math-BaseCalc
+perl-Math-Int64
+perl-Meta-Builder
+perl-Module-Signature
+perl-MooseX-Declare
+perl-ORLite-Pod
+perl-Pod-PseudoPod
+perl-Pod-PseudoPod-LaTeX
+perl-Proc-Simple
+perl-Prophet
+perl-Schedule-RateLimiter
+perl-Search-Sitemap
+perl-Sys-Info-Base
+perl-TAP-Formatter-HTML
+perl-Tapper-CLI
+perl-Tapper-Reports-Receiver
+perl-Tapper-Reports-Web
+perl-Tapper-Schema
+perl-Tapper-Testplan
+perl-Test-Common
+perl-Test-Kwalitee
+perl-Test-Mock-LWP
+perl-Test-Reporter
+perl-Text-FixEOL
+perl-WebService-Solr
+perl-XML-Generator
+perl-criticism
+perl-namespace-autoclean
+perl_checker
+photo
+php-lime
+php-pear-Mail_Mime
+php-pear-PHP_Fork
+php-pear-Testing_Selenium
+pidgin-privacy-please
+plasma-applet-eventlist
+playmidi
+plexus-cipher
+ppl
+ps3mediaserver
+python-GnuPG-Interface
+python-alsaaudio
+python-django-piston
+python-scikits-learn
+python-turpial
+qtdoc5
+qtfm
+rabbitmq-server
+rasmol
+rome
+rxtx
+sfml
+shapelib
+shrinkwrap
+silicon
+simple-scan
+skanlite
+sparkleshare
+swatch
+tailor
+task-games
+telepathy-farstream
+telepathy-launcher-kded
+thrift
+tmux
+torque
+trader
+trove4j
+ufoai
+ultracopier
+unfs3
+util-vserver
+vassal
+warzone2100
+warzone2100-videos-low
+wmhdplop
+ws-jaxme
+xemacs
+xfce4-weather-plugin
+xinput_calibrator
+xmldb-api
+xmlrpc
+xonotic
+xvidcap
+yum-metadata-parser
+zenity
+zinnia-tomoe
+zypper
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+<PRE>On 09/01/13 20:13, Maurice Batey wrote:
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+&gt;<i> and - in menu.lst - replaced:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> /boot/vmlinuz with
+</I>&gt;<i> /boot/vmlinuz-3.7-0-desktop-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> initrd /boot/initrd.img with
+</I>&gt;<i> initrd /boot/initrd-3-7-0-desktop-1-mga3.img
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> in a clone of the 'official' (but kernel panic) stanza.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But although a reboot starts well, after 6 lines the action *hangs* at
+</I>&gt;<i> the 'initrd' line.
+</I>
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+Weird, that should work. Check for typos in the names. For instance you
+have one above: 3-7-0 instead of 3.7.0.
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+<PRE>Luc Menut &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lmenut at free.fr</A>&gt; writes:
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+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/bin/file is broken on cauldron (file-5.12-4.mga3).
+</I>&gt;<i> It gives weird bogus results (i586 and x86_64), and breaks some builds.
+</I>&gt;<i> eg. file /usr/bin/xdg*
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/bin/xdg-desktop-icon: , 28265
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/bin/xdg-desktop-menu: , 28265
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/bin/xdg-email: , 28265
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/bin/xdg-icon-resource: , 28265
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/bin/xdg_menu: assembler source text
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/bin/xdg-mime: , 28265
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/bin/xdg-open: , 28265
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/bin/xdg-screensaver: , 28265
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/bin/xdg-settings: , 28265
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/bin/xdg-user-dir: , 28265
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/bin/xdg-user-dirs-gtk-update: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, ...
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/bin/xdg-user-dirs-update: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, ...
+</I>
+Hi,
+
+Upstream file 5.12 looks quite broken :-/
+They updated the 5.12 release tarball (!) on the FTP site with a
+collection of fixes, that's quite a bad practice...
+
+See this thread about your issue:
+<A HREF="http://mx.gw.com/pipermail/file/2013/001019.html">http://mx.gw.com/pipermail/file/2013/001019.html</A>
+
+It should be fixed in 5.12-5.mga
+
+Cheers
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+--
+Olivier Blin - blino
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+<PRE>On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:23 PM, David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> updates to a new version - danger!
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> tcl
+</I>&gt;<i> telepathy-idle
+</I>
+Done
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+&gt;<i> transfugdrake
+</I>&gt;<i> tree
+</I>
+Submitted
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+&gt;<i> usbutils
+</I>
+It was actually not, just some version change + revert
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+I haven't looked at tcl and transfugdrake
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+Le 09/01/2013 22:57, Olivier Blin a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Luc Menut&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lmenut at free.fr</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/bin/file is broken on cauldron (file-5.12-4.mga3).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It gives weird bogus results (i586 and x86_64), and breaks some builds.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> eg. file /usr/bin/xdg*
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/bin/xdg-desktop-icon: , 28265
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/bin/xdg-desktop-menu: , 28265
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/bin/xdg-email: , 28265
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/bin/xdg-icon-resource: , 28265
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/bin/xdg_menu: assembler source text
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/bin/xdg-mime: , 28265
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/bin/xdg-open: , 28265
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/bin/xdg-screensaver: , 28265
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/bin/xdg-settings: , 28265
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/bin/xdg-user-dir: , 28265
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/bin/xdg-user-dirs-gtk-update: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/bin/xdg-user-dirs-update: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Upstream file 5.12 looks quite broken :-/
+</I>&gt;<i> They updated the 5.12 release tarball (!) on the FTP site with a
+</I>&gt;<i> collection of fixes, that's quite a bad practice...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See this thread about your issue:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mx.gw.com/pipermail/file/2013/001019.html">http://mx.gw.com/pipermail/file/2013/001019.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It should be fixed in 5.12-5.mga
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thanks Olivier to look at this pb.
+
+I've just locally rebuilt file-5.11 and your new file-5.12-5.
+
+It's better, but file-5.12-5 still mis-detects some script files; I can
+see that some Perl or shell scripts are reported as 'assembler source
+text' with 5.12-5.
+eg.
+file -v; file /usr/bin/autoconf /usr/bin/automake /usr/bin/iurt
+file-5.11
+magic file from /usr/share/misc/magic
+/usr/bin/autoconf: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable
+/usr/bin/automake: Perl script, ASCII text executable
+/usr/bin/iurt: Perl script, ISO-8859 text executable, with very long
+lines
+
+
+file -v; file /usr/bin/autoconf /usr/bin/automake /usr/bin/iurt
+file-5.12
+magic file from /usr/share/misc/magic
+/usr/bin/autoconf: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable
+/usr/bin/automake: assembler source text
+/usr/bin/iurt: assembler source text
+
+
+It's very annoying because /usr/bin/file is used by find-requires and
+find-provides, and if we do the mass rebuild with a broken
+/usr/bin/file, we will build some rpms with incorrect provides and requires.
+
+
+regards,
+Luc
+
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+--
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+<PRE>Le 09/01/13 20:23,David Walser nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+&gt;<i> I've looked at 38.5% of the ones on the list. The ones I didn't look at are at
+</I>&gt;<i> the bottom. I've categorized the ones I looked at. The first four categories
+</I>&gt;<i> are ones that are OK and won't affect the mass rebuild (though the ones in the
+</I>&gt;<i> fourth category might need svn mv'd), the rest require further action.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ccss
+</I>
+Previous rebuild was failing due to an error in a related package. Fixed
+now: it'll build fine in the mass rebuild.
+
+&gt;<i> cduce
+</I>
+Obsoleted.
+
+&gt;<i> monotone
+</I>
+Just pushed a fix.
+
+&gt;<i> ocaml-expat
+</I>
+Cosmetic last commit. Will build fine.
+
+&gt;<i> ocaml-sqlite3
+</I>
+Just pushed.
+
+&gt;<i> rabbitmq-server
+</I>
+Just pushed.
+
+Thanks,
+--
+Malo
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+<PRE>Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+&gt;<i> I haven't looked at tcl and transfugdrake
+</I>
+transfugrade was updated in SVN by ennael.
+
+tcl was updated to 8.6 in SVN.
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+I think we had a prerelease of 8.6 in mga1 but someone said it caused problems
+and we rolled back to 8.5 for mga2. Now 8.6 final has been released, so we
+either want to stick with 8.5 again for mga3, or move tcl and tk to 8.6 (and I
+think expect is supposed to be updated along with those).
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+<PRE>Le 09/01/2013 21:23, David Walser a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> scilab
+</I>i'm working on the new version as the old one refuse to pass on BS.
+but i'll be late for version freeze /o\
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+&gt;<i> python-scikits-learn
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>done.
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+Claire
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+<PRE>Le 09/01/2013 20:26, Dick Gevers a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 19:13:14 +0000, Maurice Batey wrote about Re:
+</I>&gt;<i> [Mageia-dev] Kernel Panic after latest Mageia-3-Alpha2 s/w update c:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and - in menu.lst - replaced:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But although a reboot starts well, after 6 lines the action *hangs* at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the 'initrd' line.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you change menu.lst, you also have to execute /boot/grub/install.sh,
+</I>&gt;<i> else it does not have any effect.
+</I>No, menu.lst just affect second part of the bootloader (stage2), whereas
+/boot/grub/install.sh installe the firsts part (stage1) on the MRB (or
+elsewhere). That's one of the main interest of grub vs lilo.
+
+Also, if you just have to boot once, you don't have to first boot on
+some rescue system to change menu.lst, there is an interactive shell
+where you can freely set every parameter needed to boot.
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+--
+BOFH excuse #177:
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+<PRE>Le 10/01/2013 00:12, Claire Revillet a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 09/01/2013 21:23, David Walser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> scilab
+</I>&gt;<i> i'm working on the new version as the old one refuse to pass on BS.
+</I>&gt;<i> but i'll be late for version freeze /o\
+</I>Just push it with an empty file list now, but with the new version
+number, and fix it later :)
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+ <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B>
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+<PRE>On Wednesday 9. January 2013 21.23, David Walser wrote:
+&gt;<i> tmux
+</I>&gt;<i> ufoai
+</I>
+Done.
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+<PRE>Le 10/01/2013 00:32, Guillaume Rousse a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 10/01/2013 00:12, Claire Revillet a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 09/01/2013 21:23, David Walser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> scilab
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i'm working on the new version as the old one refuse to pass on BS.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but i'll be late for version freeze /o\
+</I>&gt;<i> Just push it with an empty file list now, but with the new version
+</I>&gt;<i> number, and fix it later :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Thank you for this wonderfull tip ;)
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+ <B>JA Magall&#243;n</B>
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+<PRE>On 01/08/2013 02:01 PM, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie skrev 8.1.2013 14:28:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and JA Magall&#243;n at 08/01/13 12:11 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> After updating cauldron to latest packages, I rebuilt manually the boot
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> initrd with dracut -f. After that, the system does not boot:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mount: /proc: filesystem mounted, but mount(8) failed: No such file or
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> directory
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cannot mount proc on /proc! Compile the kernel with CONFIG_PROC_FS!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And then a kernel panic...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8614">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8614</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thanks, after glibc/util-linux upgrade, I regenerated initrds and all
+works fine.
+
+Goog job !!
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think that I have boxes that boot because I have not rebuilt the initrd,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but I don't dare to try one other :).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Any ideas o how to debug/fix this ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I heard this is due to new util-linux. My initrd was from 3rd Jan, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> util-linux installed on 5th Jan. I've regenerated my initrd so will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reboot sometime today to see if it now breaks with the new version of mount.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It will.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I hope you have a backup initrd to use.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We maybe need to patch mount? I don't think it's really the kernel
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that's at fault here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I will investigte it tonight..
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+The version freeze is now active on Cauldron, and focus is now on fixing
+bugs. You can still submit new packages, or new release of packages, but
+cannot change the version of existing packages.
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+If you need an exception to the version freeze, send an email to the
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+&gt;<i> It's better, but file-5.12-5 still mis-detects some script files; I
+</I>&gt;<i> can see that some Perl or shell scripts are reported as 'assembler
+</I>&gt;<i> source text' with 5.12-5.
+</I>
+[...]
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+&gt;<i> /usr/bin/automake: assembler source text
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/bin/iurt: assembler source text
+</I>&gt;<i> It's very annoying because /usr/bin/file is used by find-requires and
+</I>
+[...]
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+&gt;<i> find-provides, and if we do the mass rebuild with a broken
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/bin/file, we will build some rpms with incorrect provides and
+</I>&gt;<i> requires.
+</I>
+Hi again,
+
+This might be this one:
+<A HREF="http://mx.gw.com/pipermail/file/2013/001026.html">http://mx.gw.com/pipermail/file/2013/001026.html</A>
+Which is claimed to be fixed by the maintainer:
+<A HREF="http://mx.gw.com/pipermail/file/2013/001040.html">http://mx.gw.com/pipermail/file/2013/001040.html</A>
+
+Can you try with upstream git?
+<A HREF="https://github.com/glensc/file/commits/master">https://github.com/glensc/file/commits/master</A>
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+<PRE>26.09.2012 22:57, Thierry Vignaud kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> On 26 September 2012 20:30, Anssi Hannula &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Author
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tv
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> build with -fPIC on x86_64 too (pok, mdv)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;-fPIC should already be used on x86_64 or you'll get sooner or later in
+</I>&gt;<i> troubles (for instance when linking libs). I think that any sane build
+</I>&gt;<i> script should already default to -fPIC on x86_64 but some other weird
+</I>&gt;<i> build script may not.&quot; (rtp)
+</I>
+I have to strongly disagree with this.
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+- This hides problems in build scripts. Shared libraries should normally
+ be linked with -fPIC on *all* architectures. Not doing this causes
+ some issues, like the library to actually become unshareable across
+ different processes. Since these are allowed in iX86 but not on
+ x86_64, building all objects on x86_64 with -fPIC will hide any
+ &quot;missing -fPIC from build script&quot; issues.
+ Note that there can't be very many problematic failing packages, since
+ we and mdv have managed this far without it.
+
+- It is not needed except on shared libraries, and will cause a small
+ performance penalty (due to one less register being available when
+ using relative addressing). (AFAIU it is negligible, but still..)
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+- Other major distros (not counting MDV) do not do this
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+&gt;<i> does not build
+</I>&gt;<i> --------------
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+9.05 doesn't build.
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+lcov 1.9 isn't working with the current GCC, upgrade to 1.10 fixes it.
+Fedora uses a patch against 1.9 [1], not needed anymore with the current
+version.
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+Please push this package.
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+[1]
+<A HREF="http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/lcov.git/diff/?id=25a274d9dbd6813b160e8c8c6ab12791dff8733e">http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/lcov.git/diff/?id=25a274d9dbd6813b160e8c8c6ab12791dff8733e</A>
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+<PRE>On Tuesday, January 08, 2013 03:04:45 AM Frederik Himpe wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 10:20:35 -0700, Thomas Spuhler wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If nobody objects I am going to rebuild php treadsafe
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (--enable-maintainer-zts)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it is needed for running apache with mpm-module-worker instead of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; prefork and php apache module worker is needed by 389-ds. It is now
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; declared as stable.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But apache mpm-prefork starts with php compiled treadsafe apache
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mpm-worker doesn't start with php compiled none-treadsafe
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can run PHP with apache2-mpm-worker with mod_fcgid and php5-cgi or
+</I>&gt;<i> php5-fpm.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is what Debian Wheezy's README file for php says:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Using PHP 5 with threaded webservers (e.g. apache2-mpm-worker)
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After much back-and-forth with upstream (and even building our
+</I>&gt;<i> packages thread-safe for a while), we're currently admitting defeat
+</I>&gt;<i> on that front, and are NOT building any thread-safe versions of PHP
+</I>&gt;<i> 5 for any webservers. Our recommendation is that, if you need to use
+</I>&gt;<i> a threaded webserver, you should use php5-fpm and interface to your
+</I>&gt;<i> webserver with FastCGI.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think Mageia is hurting itself by enabling too experimental features.
+</I>&gt;<i> Another example is the uas kernel module, of which I saw a complaint
+</I>&gt;<i> recently in this mailing list. This module is known to be buggy, and
+</I>&gt;<i> disabled in Debian.
+</I>
+Would you mind to provide some help on how the run apache-mpm-worker with php NTS?
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+ <B>D.Morgan</B>
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+<PRE>D.Morgan skrev 10.1.2013 09:28:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> please push Libreoffice, i have enabled system cpp instead of ucpp to
+</I>&gt;<i> try to fix build.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+submitted.
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+<PRE>On 10/01/13 02:54, Anssi Hannula wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> I have to strongly disagree with this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - This hides problems in build scripts. Shared libraries should normally
+</I>&gt;<i> be linked with -fPIC on *all* architectures. Not doing this causes
+</I>&gt;<i> some issues, like the library to actually become unshareable across
+</I>&gt;<i> different processes. Since these are allowed in iX86 but not on
+</I>&gt;<i> x86_64, building all objects on x86_64 with -fPIC will hide any
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;missing -fPIC from build script&quot; issues.
+</I>&gt;<i> Note that there can't be very many problematic failing packages, since
+</I>&gt;<i> we and mdv have managed this far without it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - It is not needed except on shared libraries, and will cause a small
+</I>&gt;<i> performance penalty (due to one less register being available when
+</I>&gt;<i> using relative addressing). (AFAIU it is negligible, but still..)
+</I>
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+this is a heads-up that I'm about to push kernel-3.8-rc3 to Cauldron.
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+As we will use 3.8 as release kernel, we better start testing it
+right now and adapt everything needed for it ...
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> lcov 1.9 isn't working with the current GCC, upgrade to 1.10 fixes it.
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora uses a patch against 1.9 [1], not needed anymore with the current
+</I>&gt;<i> version.
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+</I>&gt;<i> Please push this package.
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The version freeze is now active on Cauldron, and focus is now on fixing
+</I>&gt;<i> bugs. You can still submit new packages, or new release of packages, but
+</I>&gt;<i> cannot change the version of existing packages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you need an exception to the version freeze, send an email to the
+</I>&gt;<i> mailing list with subject &quot;Freeze push: packagename&quot; and explain the
+</I>&gt;<i> reasons why an exception is needed, and any information that can help
+</I>&gt;<i> decide quickly about the freeze exception (changelog since previous
+</I>&gt;<i> version, whether it's a bugfix only release, whether a lot of things
+</I>&gt;<i> depend on this package, etc ...).
+</I>
+And the list of people who can submit push requests :
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+&gt;<i> If this was a previous kernel installed on this partition, then your
+</I>&gt;<i> menu.lst should already have a version-specific entry for it.
+</I>
+ The thougjht did occur to me also, but the one I tried also gave
+kernel panic. Perhaps I should have tried others.
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+the wiki. I thought the only tests performed where RPM lint checks, manual
+checks by the QA and some undefined checks by the maintainers.
+
+Anyhow, I assume the 'make test' is performed on the build server. Your
+experiences might prove me wrong, but wouldn't it be better to perform
+tests on a different installation?
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+2013/1/4 Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> Le 04/01/2013 10:15, Jochen Breuer a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2013/1/4 Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.</A>**com &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We already run existing tests suite during package build... Running
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> them again on a different host would just change the execution
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> environment to use runtime dependencies instead of build time
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dependencies. I don't know if the potential results are worth the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> additional infrastructure needed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I was under the impression, that only some kind of lint checking of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> RPM was performed. I'm talking about checking the functionality of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packaged software. Are you already doing that? What kind of tests are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> performed during packaging?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Running 'make check', or 'make test', or any other software test suite.
+</I>&gt;<i> Just check for %check section in package spec file, for instance:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/**packages/cauldron/python/**">http://svnweb.mageia.org/**packages/cauldron/python/**</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> current/SPECS/python.spec?**revision=278990&amp;view=markup&lt;<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/python/current/SPECS/python.spec?revision=278990&amp;view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/python/current/SPECS/python.spec?revision=278990&amp;view=markup</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
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+&gt;<i> Check for typos in the names. For instance you
+</I>&gt;<i> have one above: 3-7-0 instead of 3.7.0.
+</I>
+ I was careful, but will check again.
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+&gt;<i> If you change menu.lst, you also have to execute /boot/grub/install.sh,
+</I>&gt;<i> else it does not have any effect.
+</I>
+ My understanding of that aspect of GRUB2 is that one *can* change
+menu.lst, but if the GRUB2 'config' file is not given the same change
+then that change will be lost the next time install.sh is executed.
+
+But - hold on - Mageia-3 is not into GRUB2 yet, is it?
+ (The last I heard GRUB2 was going to be an *option* during
+installation of Mageia-3 Final.)
+
+I still have Mageia-3-Alpha2's GRUB in the MBR, and can still boot
+Mageia-2 from its menu.lst (which I appended earier).
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+&gt;<i> Luc Menut &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lmenut at free.fr</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's better, but file-5.12-5 still mis-detects some script files; I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> can see that some Perl or shell scripts are reported as 'assembler
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> source text' with 5.12-5.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/bin/automake: assembler source text
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/bin/iurt: assembler source text
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's very annoying because /usr/bin/file is used by find-requires and
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> find-provides, and if we do the mass rebuild with a broken
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/bin/file, we will build some rpms with incorrect provides and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> requires.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi again,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This might be this one:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mx.gw.com/pipermail/file/2013/001026.html">http://mx.gw.com/pipermail/file/2013/001026.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Which is claimed to be fixed by the maintainer:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mx.gw.com/pipermail/file/2013/001040.html">http://mx.gw.com/pipermail/file/2013/001040.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you try with upstream git?
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://github.com/glensc/file/commits/master">https://github.com/glensc/file/commits/master</A>
+</I>
+This is fixed in git but I couldn't find the specific commit
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+&gt;<i> Thanks Guillame. I wasn't aware of this and did not manage to find that
+</I>&gt;<i> in the wiki. I thought the only tests performed where RPM lint checks,
+</I>&gt;<i> manual checks by the QA and some undefined checks by the maintainers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyhow, I assume the 'make test' is performed on the build server. Your
+</I>&gt;<i> experiences might prove me wrong, but wouldn't it be better to perform
+</I>&gt;<i> tests on a different installation?
+</I>Probably, indeed, because the environment would be closer to an actual
+usage environment. But this is hardly measurable.
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+And you have to balance the added value of those additional tests with
+the manpower needed to setup a new test infrastructure, integrate it
+with current build system, and maintain it... I heard the sysadmin team
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Olivier Blin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at blino.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Luc Menut &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lmenut at free.fr</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's better, but file-5.12-5 still mis-detects some script files; I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> can see that some Perl or shell scripts are reported as 'assembler
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> source text' with 5.12-5.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/bin/automake: assembler source text
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/bin/iurt: assembler source text
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's very annoying because /usr/bin/file is used by find-requires and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> find-provides, and if we do the mass rebuild with a broken
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/bin/file, we will build some rpms with incorrect provides and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> requires.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi again,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This might be this one:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mx.gw.com/pipermail/file/2013/001026.html">http://mx.gw.com/pipermail/file/2013/001026.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Which is claimed to be fixed by the maintainer:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mx.gw.com/pipermail/file/2013/001040.html">http://mx.gw.com/pipermail/file/2013/001040.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can you try with upstream git?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://github.com/glensc/file/commits/master">https://github.com/glensc/file/commits/master</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is fixed in git but I couldn't find the specific commit
+</I>
+The fix is <A HREF="https://github.com/glensc/file/commit/834831f53398cf2a1cfcd1daaf88c437bbf8d21f">https://github.com/glensc/file/commit/834831f53398cf2a1cfcd1daaf88c437bbf8d21f</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i> initrd /boot/initrd.img with
+</I>&gt;<i> initrd /boot/initrd-3-7-0-desktop-1-mga3.img
+</I>
+There were 2 errors there:
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+ (1) &quot;-mga3&quot; should have been &quot;.mga3&quot;
+ (2) &quot;.img&quot; should have been &quot;.img.old&quot;
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+(I first tried with the &quot;.old&quot; affix, but wrongly assumed that it hung
+because of the &quot;.old&quot;.)
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+So, Mga3-A2 now boots again!
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+Many thanks to all for your help. Much appreciated.
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+<PRE>On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:35:41 -0500, Frank Griffin wrote:
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+&gt;<i> your
+</I>&gt;<i> menu.lst should already have a version-specific entry for it. Try booting
+</I>&gt;<i> that directly without modifying anything.
+</I>
+ I've now tried all the 'mga3' stanzas (3.6.5-1, 3.7.0-1, 3.7.1-1), and
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+<PRE>Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at ...</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This is fixed in git but I couldn't find the specific commit
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The fix is
+</I><A HREF="https://github.com/glensc/file/commit/834831f53398cf2a1cfcd1daaf88c437bbf8d21f">https://github.com/glensc/file/commit/834831f53398cf2a1cfcd1daaf88c437bbf8d21f</A>
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+Fixed in file-5.12-6.mga3, but this is a bit more interesting...
+
+If you actually look at that commit, you see:
+-# $File: assembler,v 1.1 2011/12/08 12:12:46 rrt Exp $
++# $File: assembler,v 1.2 2012/10/31 18:41:42 christos Exp $
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+But the file in the tarball already reflects the v 1.2 christos (who is the
+one who made this commit), while the rest of the contents of that file reflect
+the previous version, aka the rest of that commit isn't applied in the tarball.
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+Anyway, I verified that fixing this fixes the detection for /usr/bin/automake.
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+&gt;<i> bug 8614 for all this was just fixed.
+</I>
+ It says: &quot;Fixed with: glibc-2.17-2.mga3 and util-linux-2.22.2-2.mga3&quot;
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+but in my (newly-recovered from Kernel Panic) Mga3-A2,
+ MCC/SW/Update shows the following packages available:
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+ glib v2.17
+ glibc-devel v2.17
+ meta-task v3
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+The $64 questions are:
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+be done with them immediately?
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+&gt;<i> please push Libreoffice, i have enabled system cpp instead of ucpp to
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+if you'd look at SVN history, you'd seen that both ways already were tried
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+Today was released a bug-fix-only release 1.7.1.
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+&gt;<i> Please push ghostpcl-9.06
+</I>&gt;<i> 9.05 doesn't build.
+</I>
+build was successful on 2013-01-02 :
+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/results.php?run=2013-01-02">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/results.php?run=2013-01-02</A>
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+&gt;<i> Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at ...</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; This is fixed in git but I couldn't find the specific commit
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The fix is
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://github.com/glensc/file/commit/834831f53398cf2a1cfcd1daaf88c437bbf8d2">https://github.com/glensc/file/commit/834831f53398cf2a1cfcd1daaf88c437bbf8d2</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1f
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Fixed in file-5.12-6.mga3, but this is a bit more interesting...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you actually look at that commit, you see:
+</I>&gt;<i> -# $File: assembler,v 1.1 2011/12/08 12:12:46 rrt Exp $
+</I>&gt;<i> +# $File: assembler,v 1.2 2012/10/31 18:41:42 christos Exp $
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But the file in the tarball already reflects the v 1.2 christos (who is the
+</I>&gt;<i> one who made this commit), while the rest of the contents of that file
+</I>&gt;<i> reflect the previous version, aka the rest of that commit isn't applied in
+</I>&gt;<i> the tarball.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyway, I verified that fixing this fixes the detection for
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/bin/automake.
+</I>
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+It build fine locally, it doesn' impact anything in the distro
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:35:41 -0500, Frank Griffin wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bug 8614 for all this was just fixed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It says: &quot;Fixed with: glibc-2.17-2.mga3 and util-linux-2.22.2-2.mga3&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> but in my (newly-recovered from Kernel Panic) Mga3-A2,
+</I>&gt;<i> MCC/SW/Update shows the following packages available:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> glib v2.17
+</I>&gt;<i> glibc-devel v2.17
+</I>&gt;<i> meta-task v3
+</I>
+You might need to run this command to update initrds:
+bootloader-config --action rebuild-initrds
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+Olivier Blin - blino
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+<PRE>Le 10/01/2013 18:20, David Walser a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Pascal Terjan&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Pascal Terjan&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at ...</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This is fixed in git but I couldn't find the specific commit
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The fix is
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://github.com/glensc/file/commit/834831f53398cf2a1cfcd1daaf88c437bbf8d21f">https://github.com/glensc/file/commit/834831f53398cf2a1cfcd1daaf88c437bbf8d21f</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Fixed in file-5.12-6.mga3, but this is a bit more interesting...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you actually look at that commit, you see:
+</I>&gt;<i> -# $File: assembler,v 1.1 2011/12/08 12:12:46 rrt Exp $
+</I>&gt;<i> +# $File: assembler,v 1.2 2012/10/31 18:41:42 christos Exp $
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But the file in the tarball already reflects the v 1.2 christos (who is the
+</I>&gt;<i> one who made this commit), while the rest of the contents of that file reflect
+</I>&gt;<i> the previous version, aka the rest of that commit isn't applied in the tarball.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyway, I verified that fixing this fixes the detection for /usr/bin/automake.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thanks to all for the fix.
+I confirm that file-5.12-6 fixes the problem.
+After some quick tries, it seems that file 5.12 gives now the same
+results as file 5.11.
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+regards,
+Luc
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+&gt;<i> You might need to run this command to update initrds:
+</I>&gt;<i> bootloader-config --action rebuild-initrds
+</I>Or just update to current cauldron, which includes the 3.8 kernel, the
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+<PRE>On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:27:01 +0200
+Thomas Backlund wrote:
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+&gt;<i> You have been warned :)
+</I>
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+Are you envisioning the apocalypse ;)
+
+Booted without issues here.
+Nvidia driver works and everything appears to be performing
+normally.
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+ Charles
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+--
+Do not count your chickens before they are hatched.
+ -- Aesop
+----------------------
+Mageia release 3 (Cauldron) for x86_64$
+On SuperSize....<A HREF="http://www.eslrahc.com">http://www.eslrahc.com</A>
+Registered Linux user #182463
+3.8.0-server-0.rc3.1.mga3 x86_64
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:27:01 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> Booted without issues here.
+</I>&gt;<i> Nvidia driver works and everything appears to be performing
+</I>&gt;<i> normally.
+</I>
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+Well, it does not build dkms-nvidia-current for me! But the nouveau
+driver automatically came as a rescue without trouble.
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+/var/lib/dkms/nvidia/current-310.19-1.mga3.nonfree/build/nv.c: In
+function &#8216;nvidia_init_module&#8217;:
+/var/lib/dkms/nvidia/current-310.19-1.mga3.nonfree/build/nv.c:873:5:
+error: implicit declaration of function &#8216;NV_KMEM_CACHE_CREATE&#8217; [-Werror=i
+mplicit-function-declaration]
+/var/lib/dkms/nvidia/current-310.19-1.mga3.nonfree/build/nv.c:873:58:
+error: expected expression before &#8216;nv_stack_t&#8217;
+/var/lib/dkms/nvidia/current-310.19-1.mga3.nonfree/build/nv.c:883:9:
+error: implicit declaration of function &#8216;NV_KMEM_CACHE_DESTROY&#8217; [-Werror=
+implicit-function-declaration]
+/var/lib/dkms/nvidia/current-310.19-1.mga3.nonfree/build/nv.c:981:54:
+error: expected expression before &#8216;nv_pte_t&#8217;
+/var/lib/dkms/nvidia/current-310.19-1.mga3.nonfree/build/nv.c:990:13:
+error: expected expression before &#8216;nvidia_p2p_page_t&#8217;
+/var/lib/dkms/nvidia/current-310.19-1.mga3.nonfree/build/nv.c: In
+function &#8216;nv_kern_open&#8217;:
+/var/lib/dkms/nvidia/current-310.19-1.mga3.nonfree/build/nv.c:1521:30:
+warning: passing argument 2 of &#8216;request_irq&#8217; from incompatible pointer
+type [enabled by default]
+In file included from
+/var/lib/dkms/nvidia/current-310.19-1.mga3.nonfree/build/nv-linux.h:128:0,
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+&gt;<i> On 10/01/13 22:56, Charles A Edwards wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:27:01 +0200
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Booted without issues here.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nvidia driver works and everything appears to be performing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> normally.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, it does not build dkms-nvidia-current for me! But the nouveau
+</I>&gt;<i> driver automatically came as a rescue without trouble.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+you need the fixed 310.19-2.mga3
+
+
+I have fixed all nvidia* and fglrx* drivers now so they all build with
+kernel-3.8, just wait for them to show up on the mirror you use...
+
+--
+Thomas
+
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+</I>&gt;<i> I confirm that file-5.12-6 fixes the problem.
+</I>&gt;<i> After some quick tries, it seems that file 5.12 gives now the same
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+Actually, there is one patch I reverted, thinking it was merged because
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+RCSID in the new 5.12 tarball.
+I'll add the patch back, this should fix &quot;file -i&quot; for ELF shared
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+Trying to install libreoffice 4 beta 2, I have:
+
+The following packages have bad signatures:
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libreoffice-calc-4.0.0.0-0.beta2.mga3.x86_64.rpm:
+Missing signature (OK ((none)))
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libreoffice-core-4.0.0.0-0.beta2.mga3.x86_64.rpm:
+Missing signature (OK ((none)))
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libreoffice-draw-4.0.0.0-0.beta2.mga3.x86_64.rpm:
+Missing signature (OK ((none)))
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libreoffice-emailmerge-4.0.0.0-0.beta2.mga3.x86_64.rpm:
+Missing signature (OK ((none)))
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libreoffice-graphicfilter-4.0.0.0-0.beta2.mga3.x86_64.rpm:
+Missing signature (OK ((none)))
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libreoffice-impress-4.0.0.0-0.beta2.mga3.x86_64.rpm:
+Missing signature (OK ((none)))
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libreoffice-kde-4.0.0.0-0.beta2.mga3.x86_64.rpm:
+Missing signature (OK ((none)))
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libreoffice-langpack-fr-4.0.0.0-0.beta2.mga3.x86_64.rpm:
+Missing signature (OK ((none)))
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libreoffice-math-4.0.0.0-0.beta2.mga3.x86_64.rpm:
+Missing signature (OK ((none)))
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libreoffice-ogltrans-4.0.0.0-0.beta2.mga3.x86_64.rpm:
+Missing signature (OK ((none)))
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libreoffice-opensymbol-fonts-4.0.0.0-0.beta2.mga3.noarch.rpm:
+Missing signature (OK ((none)))
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+Missing signature (OK ((none)))
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+Missing signature (OK ((none)))
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libreoffice-pyuno-4.0.0.0-0.beta2.mga3.x86_64.rpm:
+Missing signature (OK ((none)))
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libreoffice-ure-4.0.0.0-0.beta2.mga3.x86_64.rpm:
+Missing signature (OK ((none)))
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libreoffice-writer-4.0.0.0-0.beta2.mga3.x86_64.rpm: Missing
+signature (OK ((none)))
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libreoffice-xsltfilter-4.0.0.0-0.beta2.mga3.x86_64.rpm:
+Missing signature (OK ((none)))
+Do you want to continue installation ? (y/N)
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+regards,
+Luc
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+ <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B>
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+ <I>Fri Jan 11 01:48:44 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>Hello,
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+Please push sqlite3 version 3.7.15.2, it's a patch release against our
+version 3.7.15.1.
+
+It's fixing an single bug introduced with 3.7.15.x. [1]
+
+Regards,
+
+[1]
+2013-Jan-09 - Release 3.7.15.2
+
+SQLite version 3.7.15.2 is a patch release that fixes a single bug that
+was introduced in version version 3.7.15. The fix is a 4-character edit
+to a single line of code. Other than this 4-character change and the
+update of the version number, nothing has changed from version 3.7.15.1.
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+source: <A HREF="http://sqlite.org/news.html">http://sqlite.org/news.html</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i> It build fine locally, it doesn' impact anything in the distro
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+<PRE>On Fri, 11 Jan 2013, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please push sqlite3 version 3.7.15.2, it's a patch release against our
+</I>&gt;<i> version 3.7.15.1.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's fixing an single bug introduced with 3.7.15.x. [1]
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+&gt;<i> Or just update to current cauldron, which includes the 3.8 kernel, the
+</I>&gt;<i> installation of which will rebuild the initrd.
+</I>
+I tried that and now have a system with 3.8 that will either
+(1) boot to the first blob above the cauldron :-) and then panics with
+ Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed
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+(2) with acpi=off boots to the login screen but the HP wireless USB
+ keyboard and mouse don't work.
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+By the way, the installer looked nicer, with images and slogans about
+Mageia is for People in somewhat broken English :-) Maybe it's because I
+used the network installer ISO instead of the full DVD.
+
+Liam
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+Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, <A HREF="http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/">http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/</A>
+Pictures from old books: <A HREF="http://fromoldbooks.org/">http://fromoldbooks.org/</A>
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+<PRE>&gt;&gt;<i> the new version of totem-plugin-arte was uploaded to cauldron, please test
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it.
+</I>&gt;<i> Finaly I could try it. Sound was missing because gstreamer1.0-faad was not
+</I>&gt;<i> installed. Maybe totem-plugin-arte should also go to tainted media, and
+</I>&gt;<i> require faad?
+</I>Hi,
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+faad support is required. I don't know how to move packages, can
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 08/01/13 14:25 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Tuesday, January 08, 2013 04:36:26 AM Oliver Burger wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 08.01.2013 11:04, schrieb Frederik Himpe:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 10:20:35 -0700, Thomas Spuhler wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If nobody objects I am going to rebuild php treadsafe
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (--enable-maintainer-zts)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it is needed for running apache with mpm-module-worker instead of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> prefork and php apache module worker is needed by 389-ds. It is now
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> declared as stable.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But apache mpm-prefork starts with php compiled treadsafe apache
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mpm-worker doesn't start with php compiled none-treadsafe
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> You can run PHP with apache2-mpm-worker with mod_fcgid and php5-cgi or
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> php5-fpm.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This is what Debian Wheezy's README file for php says:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Using PHP 5 with threaded webservers (e.g. apache2-mpm-worker)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> After much back-and-forth with upstream (and even building our
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packages thread-safe for a while), we're currently admitting defeat
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> on that front, and are NOT building any thread-safe versions of PHP
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 5 for any webservers. Our recommendation is that, if you need to use
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> a threaded webserver, you should use php5-fpm and interface to your
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> webserver with FastCGI.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think Mageia is hurting itself by enabling too experimental features.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Another example is the uas kernel module, of which I saw a complaint
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> recently in this mailing list. This module is known to be buggy, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> disabled in Debian.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's what Oden told me yesterday on IRC.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So as current php maintainer I vote against enabling this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess I then will revert it to NTS.
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora builds it with both options. But it may be too late now going that way.
+</I>
+FWIW, over the last few days I've had to rebuild several PHP modules to
+get my system working properly.
+
+A couple days ago I had to rebuild both php-memcached and php-redis.
+
+Today I've had to rebuild php-memcached, php-redis and php-timezonedb.
+
+I'm not against enabling features etc. to try them out but when doing so
+care really should be taken to rebuild all affected PHP modules not just
+the core ones.
+
+Thanks.
+
+Col
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+<PRE>2013/1/8 Christiaan Welvaart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cjw at daneel.dyndns.org</A>&gt;
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Tue, 8 Jan 2013, Adrien Guichard wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I noticed that chromium-browser-unstable was version 25 (which is ok), but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> stable/beta was stick to version 21.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> According to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.fr/">http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.fr/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> stable version should be 23, beta version 24. Many sandboxing enhancement
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> comes with recent chrome releases and Native API vesion 23 and further are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> interesting to me, so it would be cool to have those (stable/beta up to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> date) in Mageia 3.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The -unstable 25.x was done by me. It crashes on some pages, e.g.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/</A> and I disabled Native API support because it relied on bundled binaries. OTOH it does support h.264 video through system ffmpeg. A build of version 24 exhibited the same renderer process segfault so I did not upload any beta or stable packages.
+</I>
+Do you remove ~/.cache/chromium before trying new versions?
+
+I read everywhere that chromium does not include h.264.. I will try to
+check that, but in no way you should disable Native API, Native apps
+are packaged in a way that it should be simple to not include the one
+you do not want, so it is better to not include nexe responsible for
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+<PRE>On Friday, January 11, 2013 03:21:52 AM Colin Guthrie wrote:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 08/01/13 14:25 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Tuesday, January 08, 2013 04:36:26 AM Oliver Burger wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Am 08.01.2013 11:04, schrieb Frederik Himpe:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 10:20:35 -0700, Thomas Spuhler wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; If nobody objects I am going to rebuild php treadsafe
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; (--enable-maintainer-zts)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; it is needed for running apache with mpm-module-worker instead of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; prefork and php apache module worker is needed by 389-ds. It is now
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; declared as stable.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; But apache mpm-prefork starts with php compiled treadsafe apache
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; mpm-worker doesn't start with php compiled none-treadsafe
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; You can run PHP with apache2-mpm-worker with mod_fcgid and php5-cgi or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; php5-fpm.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; This is what Debian Wheezy's README file for php says:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Using PHP 5 with threaded webservers (e.g. apache2-mpm-worker)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; ----------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; After much back-and-forth with upstream (and even building our
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; packages thread-safe for a while), we're currently admitting defeat
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; on that front, and are NOT building any thread-safe versions of PHP
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 5 for any webservers. Our recommendation is that, if you need to use
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; a threaded webserver, you should use php5-fpm and interface to your
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; webserver with FastCGI.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I think Mageia is hurting itself by enabling too experimental features.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Another example is the uas kernel module, of which I saw a complaint
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; recently in this mailing list. This module is known to be buggy, and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; disabled in Debian.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; +1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; That's what Oden told me yesterday on IRC.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; So as current php maintainer I vote against enabling this.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I guess I then will revert it to NTS.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Fedora builds it with both options. But it may be too late now going that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; way.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> FWIW, over the last few days I've had to rebuild several PHP modules to
+</I>&gt;<i> get my system working properly.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A couple days ago I had to rebuild both php-memcached and php-redis.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Today I've had to rebuild php-memcached, php-redis and php-timezonedb.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not against enabling features etc. to try them out but when doing so
+</I>&gt;<i> care really should be taken to rebuild all affected PHP modules not just
+</I>&gt;<i> the core ones.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>Why did you have to rebuild them as a result of the new features? TS has been reverted to NTS so,
+there are no new features.
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 11/01/13 14:25 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Friday, January 11, 2013 03:21:52 AM Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 08/01/13 14:25 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Tuesday, January 08, 2013 04:36:26 AM Oliver Burger wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am 08.01.2013 11:04, schrieb Frederik Himpe:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 10:20:35 -0700, Thomas Spuhler wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If nobody objects I am going to rebuild php treadsafe
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (--enable-maintainer-zts)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it is needed for running apache with mpm-module-worker instead of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> prefork and php apache module worker is needed by 389-ds. It is now
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> declared as stable.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But apache mpm-prefork starts with php compiled treadsafe apache
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mpm-worker doesn't start with php compiled none-treadsafe
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> You can run PHP with apache2-mpm-worker with mod_fcgid and php5-cgi or
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> php5-fpm.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This is what Debian Wheezy's README file for php says:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Using PHP 5 with threaded webservers (e.g. apache2-mpm-worker)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> After much back-and-forth with upstream (and even building our
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packages thread-safe for a while), we're currently admitting defeat
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> on that front, and are NOT building any thread-safe versions of PHP
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 5 for any webservers. Our recommendation is that, if you need to use
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> a threaded webserver, you should use php5-fpm and interface to your
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> webserver with FastCGI.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think Mageia is hurting itself by enabling too experimental features.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Another example is the uas kernel module, of which I saw a complaint
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> recently in this mailing list. This module is known to be buggy, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> disabled in Debian.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That's what Oden told me yesterday on IRC.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So as current php maintainer I vote against enabling this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I guess I then will revert it to NTS.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Fedora builds it with both options. But it may be too late now going that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> way.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> FWIW, over the last few days I've had to rebuild several PHP modules to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> get my system working properly.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A couple days ago I had to rebuild both php-memcached and php-redis.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Today I've had to rebuild php-memcached, php-redis and php-timezonedb.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm not against enabling features etc. to try them out but when doing so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> care really should be taken to rebuild all affected PHP modules not just
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the core ones.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Why did you have to rebuild them as a result of the new features? TS has been reverted to NTS so,
+</I>&gt;<i> there are no new features.
+</I>
+For php-timezonedb it specifically mentioned that it was built against
+the TS version where as the core PHP was NTS (TS vs NTS in the build ids
+it was comparing).
+
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+For the other two, they complained about missing symbols when the TS
+version appeared. I forget the symbol itself but it was mentioned
+global_config.
+
+They had the same error today (presumably after reverting) so had to
+rebuild again.
+
+I guess enabling TS vs. NTS changes things more subtly than it might appear.
+
+Easy enough to reproduce - just install them and run &quot;php -v&quot; on the
+command line to see the list of errors.
+
+Col
+
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+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+&gt;<i> You might need to run this command to update initrds:
+</I>&gt;<i> bootloader-config --action rebuild-initrds
+</I>
+ OK - tried that. Terminal session log can be seen here:
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+ <A HREF="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10969499/bootloader-rebuild-initrds-log">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10969499/bootloader-rebuild-initrds-log</A>
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+On re-booting:
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+ (1) Still got kernel panic when booting from normal Mga3
+ stanza.
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+ (2) Can no loonger boot using any of the &quot;.img.old&quot; initrd's.
+ (They all give Kernel Panic)
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+ (Did not get round to installing kernel 3.8.)
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+So my mga3 install is once again dead in the water...
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+Is there any other way of getting back in again?
+ (I had got quite fond of Mga3...)
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+&gt;<i> (1) Still got kernel panic when booting from normal Mga3 stanza.
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+&gt;<i> (2) Can no loonger boot using any of the &quot;.img.old&quot; initrd's. (They
+</I>&gt;<i> all give Kernel Panic)
+</I>
+It sounds like you don't really have the new packages installed. In
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+<A HREF="http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Dangerous-vulnerability-in-latest-Java-version-1781156.html">http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Dangerous-vulnerability-in-latest-Java-version-1781156.html</A>
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 11 januari 2013 09:50:46 schreef G&#246;tz Waschk:
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the new version of totem-plugin-arte was uploaded to cauldron, please
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; test
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; it.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Finaly I could try it. Sound was missing because gstreamer1.0-faad was not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; installed. Maybe totem-plugin-arte should also go to tainted media, and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; require faad?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm answering to the dev list, I hope this is OK. You are right, the
+</I>&gt;<i> faad support is required. I don't know how to move packages, can
+</I>&gt;<i> someone help?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards, G&#246;tz
+</I>
+maybe it should be built without like now, and additionally also with faad
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+&gt;<i> If you're using Cauldron as a workstation and have the Java plugin (icedtea-web
+</I>&gt;<i> or Sun Java) enabled in your browser, be aware there's a zero-day vulnerability
+</I>&gt;<i> being actively exploited, and you should disable the plugin for general usage
+</I>&gt;<i> until we have a fix.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you're using icedtea-web on Mageia 2 you're not affected, as that uses Java 6
+</I>&gt;<i> which is not known to be vulnerable.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/01/critical-java-zero-day-bug-is-being-massively-exploited-in-the-wild/">http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/01/critical-java-zero-day-bug-is-being-massively-exploited-in-the-wild/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Dangerous-vulnerability-in-latest-Java-version-1781156.html">http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Dangerous-vulnerability-in-latest-Java-version-1781156.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+That's maybe worth a blog post, especially the Mga2 is not vulnerable
+bit. People will be looking for updates when they are not needed.
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+<PRE>Le 11/01/2013 19:53, AL13N a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 11 januari 2013 09:50:46 schreef G&#246;tz Waschk:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the new version of totem-plugin-arte was uploaded to cauldron, please
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> test
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Finaly I could try it. Sound was missing because gstreamer1.0-faad was not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installed. Maybe totem-plugin-arte should also go to tainted media, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> require faad?
+</I>
+&gt;<i> maybe it should be built without like now, and additionally also with faad
+</I>&gt;<i> support in tainted
+</I>
+No : totem-plugin-arte is just a playlist plugin that takes it from
+internet. But as the media of this playlist has AAC audio, it is useless
+without faad.
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+&gt;<i> If you're using Cauldron as a workstation and have the Java plugin (icedtea-web
+</I>&gt;<i> or Sun Java) enabled in your browser, be aware there's a zero-day vulnerability
+</I>&gt;<i> being actively exploited, and you should disable the plugin for general usage
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+</I>
+...
+You meant &quot;the monthly java 0-day vulnerability is out&quot;, don't you?
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 11 januari 2013 20:14:45 schreef Jose Jorge:
+&gt;<i> Le 11/01/2013 19:53, AL13N a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op vrijdag 11 januari 2013 09:50:46 schreef G&#246;tz Waschk:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the new version of totem-plugin-arte was uploaded to cauldron, please
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; test
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; it.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Finaly I could try it. Sound was missing because gstreamer1.0-faad was
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; installed. Maybe totem-plugin-arte should also go to tainted media, and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; require faad?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; maybe it should be built without like now, and additionally also with faad
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; support in tainted
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No : totem-plugin-arte is just a playlist plugin that takes it from
+</I>&gt;<i> internet. But as the media of this playlist has AAC audio, it is useless
+</I>&gt;<i> without faad.
+</I>
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+Is it the same panic? I get a different panic after updating - Fixing
+recursive fault but reboot is needed. Using noacpi is a workaround if
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+A few days ago there where some talk on irc about whether or not to drop amsn, due to the fact that the MSN network might be closed before we ship mga3. Microsoft have apparently postponed the shutdown with at least year.
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+Le 11/01/2013 23:43, Johnny A. Solbu a &#65513;crit :
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/01/microsoft-messenger-service-not-going-anywhere-just-yet/">http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/01/microsoft-messenger-service-not-going-anywhere-just-yet/</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>A few days ago there where some talk on irc about whether or not
+&gt;<i> to drop amsn, due to the fact that the MSN network might be closed
+</I>&gt;<i> before we ship mga3. Microsoft have apparently postponed the
+</I>&gt;<i> shutdown with at least year.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Microsoft want to stop MSN network in March, 15th, it seems:
+
+<A HREF="http://wmpoweruser.com/microsoft-to-discontinue-windows-live-messenger-from-mar-15th/">http://wmpoweruser.com/microsoft-to-discontinue-windows-live-messenger-from-mar-15th/</A>
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+An idea: would you think it could be sane to pause the mass rebuild a couple
+hours to let mirrors stabilise ? Or is it better to do it once and for all ?
+Anyone has measured the time needed for that (the resync of mirrors) ?
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+
+Envoy&#233; depuis un mobile Samsung
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+-------- Message d'origine --------
+De : JA Magall&#243;n &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jamagallon at ono.com</A>&gt;
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+A : Linux Mageia-Dev &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;
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+An idea: would you think it could be sane to pause the mass rebuild a couple
+hours to let mirrors stabilise ? Or is it better to do it once and for all ?
+Anyone has measured the time needed for that (the resync of mirrors) ?
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+TIA
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+please push xmlrpc, this is a new version ( and a rename ) was xmlrpc3 before.
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+Needed for eclipse extensions to build
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+</I>&gt;<i> Is there any other way of getting back in again?
+</I>&gt;<i> (I had got quite fond of Mga3...)
+</I>
+You should be able to boot the Beta1 installation media and select the
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+the installer should rebuild the initrd(s) correctly.
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 11/01/13 14:25 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Friday, January 11, 2013 03:21:52 AM Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 08/01/13 14:25 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; On Tuesday, January 08, 2013 04:36:26 AM Oliver Burger wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Am 08.01.2013 11:04, schrieb Frederik Himpe:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 10:20:35 -0700, Thomas Spuhler wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; If nobody objects I am going to rebuild php treadsafe
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; (--enable-maintainer-zts)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; it is needed for running apache with mpm-module-worker instead of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; prefork and php apache module worker is needed by 389-ds. It is now
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; declared as stable.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; But apache mpm-prefork starts with php compiled treadsafe apache
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; mpm-worker doesn't start with php compiled none-treadsafe
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; You can run PHP with apache2-mpm-worker with mod_fcgid and php5-cgi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; or php5-fpm.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; This is what Debian Wheezy's README file for php says:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Using PHP 5 with threaded webservers (e.g. apache2-mpm-worker)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ---------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; -
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; After much back-and-forth with upstream (and even building our
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; packages thread-safe for a while), we're currently admitting
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; defeat on that front, and are NOT building any thread-safe
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; versions of PHP 5 for any webservers. Our recommendation is that,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; if you need to use a threaded webserver, you should use php5-fpm
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and interface to your webserver with FastCGI.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I think Mageia is hurting itself by enabling too experimental
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; features. Another example is the uas kernel module, of which I saw a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; complaint recently in this mailing list. This module is known to be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; buggy, and disabled in Debian.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; +1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; That's what Oden told me yesterday on IRC.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; So as current php maintainer I vote against enabling this.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I guess I then will revert it to NTS.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Fedora builds it with both options. But it may be too late now going
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; that way.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; FWIW, over the last few days I've had to rebuild several PHP modules to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; get my system working properly.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; A couple days ago I had to rebuild both php-memcached and php-redis.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Today I've had to rebuild php-memcached, php-redis and php-timezonedb.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I'm not against enabling features etc. to try them out but when doing so
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; care really should be taken to rebuild all affected PHP modules not just
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the core ones.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Col
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Why did you have to rebuild them as a result of the new features? TS has
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; been reverted to NTS so, there are no new features.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For php-timezonedb it specifically mentioned that it was built against
+</I>&gt;<i> the TS version where as the core PHP was NTS (TS vs NTS in the build ids
+</I>&gt;<i> it was comparing).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For the other two, they complained about missing symbols when the TS
+</I>&gt;<i> version appeared. I forget the symbol itself but it was mentioned
+</I>&gt;<i> global_config.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> They had the same error today (presumably after reverting) so had to
+</I>&gt;<i> rebuild again.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess enabling TS vs. NTS changes things more subtly than it might
+</I>&gt;<i> appear.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Easy enough to reproduce - just install them and run &quot;php -v&quot; on the
+</I>&gt;<i> command line to see the list of errors.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>
+Thanks Col. I saw one was upgraded after php TS was built, but it's now solved. I guess you rebuilt
+some and umeabot took care of the rest. There are currently no errors using php -v
+
+When I built the TS version, I was aware something may happen and I may had to go back.
+The problem is now, 389-ds needs apache running with worker which in turn needs php TS
+
+Fedora builds both modules, TS and NTS and loads them depending on mpm-worker or not.
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+<PRE>On Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:23:48 AM nicolas vigier wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013, Thomas Spuhler wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Please push ghostpcl-9.06
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 9.05 doesn't build.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> build was successful on 2013-01-02 :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/results.php?run=2013-01-02">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/results.php?run=2013-01-02</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> failed on 2013-01-04 :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/results.php?run=2013-01-04">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/results.php?run=2013-01-04</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This looks like a problem of parallel make, and can maybe be fixed by
+</I>&gt;<i> using make instead of %make.
+</I>for some unknown reasons it builds again, using %make
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+<PRE>We should drop all msn related things right now, just in case it's all shut
+down.
+
+Op vrijdag 11 januari 2013 23:52:05 schreef Sandro CAZZANIGA:
+&gt;<i> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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+</I>&gt;<i> Le 11/01/2013 23:43, Johnny A. Solbu a &#65513;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/01/microsoft-messenger-">http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/01/microsoft-messenger-</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; service-not-going-anywhere-just-yet/
+</I>&gt;<i> A few days ago there where some talk on irc about whether or not
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to drop amsn, due to the fact that the MSN network might be closed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; before we ship mga3. Microsoft have apparently postponed the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; shutdown with at least year.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Microsoft want to stop MSN network in March, 15th, it seems:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://wmpoweruser.com/microsoft-to-discontinue-windows-live-messenger-from-">http://wmpoweruser.com/microsoft-to-discontinue-windows-live-messenger-from-</A>
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+First of all, felicitations, your post was 90% quote!
+Ever heard of the netiquette?
+
+&gt;<i> Thanks Col. I saw one was upgraded after php TS was built, but it's now solved. I guess you rebuilt
+</I>&gt;<i> some and umeabot took care of the rest. There are currently no errors using php -v
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+&gt;<i> Name : kde4-splash-mga Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version : 1 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release : 4.mga3 Build Date: Sat Jan 12 09:17:20 2013
+</I>&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: sucuk.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> Group : Graphical desktop/KDE Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Size : 33147 License: GPLv3
+</I>&gt;<i> Signature : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager : umeabot &lt;umeabot&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL : <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/kde4-splash-mga">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/kde4-splash-mga</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary : Mageia KDE4 Splash Screen
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia Splash Screen for KDE4.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> umeabot &lt;umeabot&gt; 1-4.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 355960
+</I>&gt;<i> - Mass Rebuild - <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:Mageia3MassRebuild">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:Mageia3MassRebuild</A>
+</I>
+Do we still need this?
+Its not used by the default ksplash, and isn't there meant to be a new
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+&gt;<i> We should drop all msn related things right now, just in case it's all shut
+</I>&gt;<i> down.
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+We have no reason to drop them just yet. They will work another year. Who knows, maybe even
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+ <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B>
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+<PRE>One thing first, there's a problem with your recent message:
+gpg: Signature made Fri Jan 11 23:51:59 2013 CET using RSA key ID 5A40807D
+gpg: BAD signature from &quot;Sandro CAZZANIGA &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">scazzaniga at linagora.com</A>&gt;&quot;
+
+On Friday 11. January 2013 23.52, Sandro CAZZANIGA wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 11/01/2013 23:43, Johnny A. Solbu a &#65513;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/01/microsoft-messenger-service-not-going-anywhere-just-yet/">http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/01/microsoft-messenger-service-not-going-anywhere-just-yet/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Microsoft have apparently postponed the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; shutdown with at least year.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Microsoft want to stop MSN network in March, 15th, it seems:
+</I>
+If you read the Ars article, you'll see that they asked Microsoft and Microsoft confirmed that the network itself will continue to run untill at least match 2014, and most third party clients will most likely work untill then. It's some of the official clients that will stop working.
+
+Quoting from the article:
+==
+&#171;We asked Microsoft about its plans and what would happen to these various clients. The company tells us that contrary to the previous reports, the Messenger service /isn't/ being retired on March 15th. That date does represent the /start/ of the transition away from Messenger, but the service is set to operate for some time yet.
+On March 15th, the Windows Messenger client will be blacklisted and unable to connect to the network, informing users that they must install the Skype client instead. The Skype client will continue to connect to the Messenger network (as it does presently) and will allow communication with Messenger users.&#187;
+&#171;Other clients, however, should be unaffected and will continue to connect just fine. &#187;
+==
+
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+Le 12/01/2013 11:27, Johnny A. Solbu a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> One thing first, there's a problem with your recent message: gpg:
+</I>&gt;<i> Signature made Fri Jan 11 23:51:59 2013 CET using RSA key ID
+</I>&gt;<i> 5A40807D gpg: BAD signature from &quot;Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">scazzaniga at linagora.com</A>&gt;&quot;
+</I>
+Arf, my thunderbird encoding is bad :/
+
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+<PRE>On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 13:29:00 -0500, Frank Griffin wrote:
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+&gt;<i> It sounds like you don't really have the new packages installed.
+</I>
+ Oh yes I have! I installed the offered s/w update:
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+ glib v2.17
+ glibc-devel v2.17
+ meta-task v3
+
+- before re-booting and then running the:
+ bootloader-config --action rebuild-initrds
+
+&gt;<i> In rebuilding all of your initrds with the old flawed code, you borked
+</I>&gt;<i> them all.
+</I>
+ But it was with the *new* code, though it still borked them all..:-((
+
+&gt;<i> Check bug#8614 and follow the directions in the comments
+</I>&gt;<i> at the bottom.
+</I>
+ Looked at that, but I think I'm past the 'chroot' approach now.
+I've downloaded the Beta1 DVD.iso and will first try an Update as that
+should be quicker (as someone has just suggested)
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+<PRE>On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:03:52 -0600, R James wrote:
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+&gt;<i> You should be able to boot the Beta1 installation media and select the
+</I>&gt;<i> Upgrade option.
+</I>
+ Good idea - thank you - will give that a try.
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 12/01/13 04:39 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:23:48 AM nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013, Thomas Spuhler wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Please push ghostpcl-9.06
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 9.05 doesn't build.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> build was successful on 2013-01-02 :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/results.php?run=2013-01-02">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/results.php?run=2013-01-02</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> failed on 2013-01-04 :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/results.php?run=2013-01-04">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/results.php?run=2013-01-04</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This looks like a problem of parallel make, and can maybe be fixed by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> using make instead of %make.
+</I>&gt;<i> for some unknown reasons it builds again, using %make
+</I>&gt;<i> :)
+</I>
+If it is a problem of parallel make as Nicolas suggests then it could
+very much be an intermittent issue - sometimes working, sometimes not.
+
+Col
+
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+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+&gt;<i> Good idea - thank you - will give that a try.
+</I>&gt;<i> (Have already d/l the DVD.iso.)
+</I>
+ Damn it, I've just realised that because I had chosen to d/l the
+32-bit .iso (havng read of the futility of running 64-bit on a max 2GB
+machine), I presumably cannot do an update of a 64-bit install from a
+32-bit .iso.
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+So, I shall first try the chroot approach, then if that doesn't
+succeed d/l the 64-bit .iso and try an update, and only if that fails
+do a fresh 32-bit install.
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+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please let in libreoffice.
+</I>&gt;<i> This is 4.0 RC1 (we currently have beta2)
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> On 11 January 2013 18:54, Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Please let in libreoffice.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This is 4.0 RC1 (we currently have beta2)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ping?
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+
+I see you blindly imported the proftpd package from Mandriva a few days ago.
+
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=337420">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=337420</A>
+
+This overwrote the changes I pushed a few weeks back.
+
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=331311">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=331311</A>
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=331662">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=331662</A>
+
+And you've added a whole bunch of legacy service calls in %post and
+%postun. Please use systemctl syntax here.
+
+In addition, you've overwritten several changes we've made in the last
+year. e.g. xinetd fixes, ftpuser fixes etc.
+
+
+
+Please be careful not to break things and don't blindly import something
+on the assumption it's better :(
+
+I think it's is likely quite rare now that importing another distro's
+package over the top of a package we've updated several times is a good
+idea...
+
+
+I've reapplied the changes we made now, but I'm guessing a more thorough
+review would still be a good idea.
+
+I've got enough of a package backlog to fix up, so please ensure you do
+not break things again :(
+
+Col
+
+--
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+Colin Guthrie
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+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+ <B>Bersuit Vera</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20proftpd%20-%20why%20was%20mdv%20package%20imported%20over%20ours%0A%09nuking%20our%20changes%3F%3F%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CCAM0YTb2rxZb-gCpucCEp1hBe9OvwBfe13VF8R5fWWJ7wNcnZjA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>Hello,
+I'm sorry, I'm just Padawan, I thought it was working fine. I'll try to fix
+it as soon as possible
+What would be the best way to fix it?
+
+Bersuit
+
+2013/1/12 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I see you blindly imported the proftpd package from Mandriva a few days
+</I>&gt;<i> ago.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=337420">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=337420</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This overwrote the changes I pushed a few weeks back.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=331311">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=331311</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=331662">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=331662</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And you've added a whole bunch of legacy service calls in %post and
+</I>&gt;<i> %postun. Please use systemctl syntax here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In addition, you've overwritten several changes we've made in the last
+</I>&gt;<i> year. e.g. xinetd fixes, ftpuser fixes etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please be careful not to break things and don't blindly import something
+</I>&gt;<i> on the assumption it's better :(
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it's is likely quite rare now that importing another distro's
+</I>&gt;<i> package over the top of a package we've updated several times is a good
+</I>&gt;<i> idea...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've reapplied the changes we made now, but I'm guessing a more thorough
+</I>&gt;<i> review would still be a good idea.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've got enough of a package backlog to fix up, so please ensure you do
+</I>&gt;<i> not break things again :(
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;<i> colin(at)mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Day Job:
+</I>&gt;<i> Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Open Source:
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+It seems the rpmlint checks I added to detect (and prevent upload of)
+files in /var/run and in /etc/udev/rules.d etc. are not working.
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+Can someone see if I've done something wrong?
+
+I was able to push through a version of proftpd that shipped a dir
+/var/run/proftpd. It shouldn't have been allowed by my reckoning.
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+I would have preferred to get this working before mass rebuild, but I
+can do manual checks with urpmf to fix any problems so it's not the end
+of the world.
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+Col
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+Open Source:
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+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm sorry, I'm just Padawan, I thought it was working fine. I'll try to fix it as soon as
+</I>&gt;<i> possible
+</I>&gt;<i> What would be the best way to fix it?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Colin already fixed it. But this should not happen again. May I ask who's your mentor? And
+who allowed such push? You can cherry-pick changes from other specs but you can't replace
+the whole spec. Your mentor should know that..
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Sander Lepik at 12/01/13 15:01 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 12.01.2013 16:52, Bersuit Vera kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm sorry, I'm just Padawan, I thought it was working fine. I'll try to fix it as soon as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> possible
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What would be the best way to fix it?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Colin already fixed it. But this should not happen again. May I ask who's your mentor? And
+</I>&gt;<i> who allowed such push? You can cherry-pick changes from other specs but you can't replace
+</I>&gt;<i> the whole spec. Your mentor should know that..
+</I>
+Mistakes happen. Don't feel too bad about it, but please do learn from
+it too :)
+
+The package probably worked fine, but if you look at the version history
+of the package you can see we already cleaned up a lot of things from
+the Mandriva package (when we initially forked) and your changes
+effectively undid those tidy ups.
+
+As mentioned previously it's likely far better these days to NOT import
+whole packages from other distros.
+
+As Sander said, it's likely better to cherry pick the changes made to
+the Mandriva package to update (i.e. any new or rediffed patches) over
+to our package (with appropriate credit for the source of the work of
+course - which you did do in your commit message)
+
+Hope this helps, but please feel free to review the changes I made
+(including looking at the previous changes by misc and ahmed to see if
+there are any I missed.
+
+All the best
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Open Source:
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+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>On Sat, 12 Jan 2013, Colin Guthrie wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems the rpmlint checks I added to detect (and prevent upload of)
+</I>&gt;<i> files in /var/run and in /etc/udev/rules.d etc. are not working.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can someone see if I've done something wrong?
+</I>
+The file distribution.error.list from rpmlint-mageia-policy is not used
+by the buildsystem to reject uploads. Instead it is using a list of
+rpmlint errors defined in youri configuration. I added them now :
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963</A>
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+Maybe we could change it to use distribution.error.list file instead.
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, 12 Jan 2013, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It seems the rpmlint checks I added to detect (and prevent upload of)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> files in /var/run and in /etc/udev/rules.d etc. are not working.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can someone see if I've done something wrong?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The file distribution.error.list from rpmlint-mageia-policy is not used
+</I>&gt;<i> by the buildsystem to reject uploads. Instead it is using a list of
+</I>&gt;<i> rpmlint errors defined in youri configuration. I added them now :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe we could change it to use distribution.error.list file instead.
+</I>
+Awesome, thanks.
+
+Will this affect mga2 builds too? It shouldn't there so hopefully there
+is no conflict :)
+
+Col
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+<PRE>On 12 January 2013 16:45, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> It seems the rpmlint checks I added to detect (and prevent upload of)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> files in /var/run and in /etc/udev/rules.d etc. are not working.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can someone see if I've done something wrong?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The file distribution.error.list from rpmlint-mageia-policy is not used
+</I>&gt;<i> by the buildsystem to reject uploads. Instead it is using a list of
+</I>&gt;<i> rpmlint errors defined in youri configuration. I added them now :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe we could change it to use distribution.error.list file instead.
+</I>
+We've a couple packages to fix. eg: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8672">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8672</A>
+
+ 188/241: gkrellm #############################################
+error: unpacking of archive failed on file /var/lock/gkrellm: cpio: mkdir
+failed - Inappropriate ioctl for device
+error: gkrellm-2.3.5-6.mga3.x86_64: install failed
+
+&quot;urpmf /var/lock|sort -u&quot; reports
+filesystem:/var/lock
+gkrellm:/var/lock/gkrellm
+gnokii:/var/lock/gnokii
+leafnode:/var/lock/news
+rear:/usr/share/rear/skel/default/var/lock
+rear:/usr/share/rear/skel/default/var/lock/lockdev
+rear:/usr/share/rear/skel/default/var/lock/lockdev/.gitignore
+rear:/usr/share/rear/skel/default/var/lock/lvm
+rear:/usr/share/rear/skel/default/var/lock/lvm/.gitignore
+rear:/usr/share/rear/skel/default/var/lock/subsys
+rear:/usr/share/rear/skel/default/var/lock/subsys/.gitignore
+uucp:/var/lock/uucp
+vtun:/var/lock/vtund
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+Some are probably already %ghost but some are not (such as rear obviously)
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+<PRE>On Sat, 12 Jan 2013, Colin Guthrie wrote:
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+&gt;<i> As mentioned previously it's likely far better these days to NOT import
+</I>&gt;<i> whole packages from other distros.
+</I>
+I don't see any reason for &quot;importing&quot; a package that is already in svn.
+Any merging should be done in a svn checkout and then committed normally.
+SRPM importing is useful for importing new packages.
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 12/01/13 16:13 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 12 January 2013 16:45, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It seems the rpmlint checks I added to detect (and prevent upload of)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> files in /var/run and in /etc/udev/rules.d etc. are not working.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Can someone see if I've done something wrong?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The file distribution.error.list from rpmlint-mageia-policy is not used
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> by the buildsystem to reject uploads. Instead it is using a list of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rpmlint errors defined in youri configuration. I added them now :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe we could change it to use distribution.error.list file instead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We've a couple packages to fix. eg: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8672">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8672</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 188/241: gkrellm #############################################
+</I>&gt;<i> error: unpacking of archive failed on file /var/lock/gkrellm: cpio: mkdir
+</I>&gt;<i> failed - Inappropriate ioctl for device
+</I>&gt;<i> error: gkrellm-2.3.5-6.mga3.x86_64: install failed
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;urpmf /var/lock|sort -u&quot; reports
+</I>
+I've been using:
+ urpmf &quot;^/var/(run|lock)/&quot; | sort -u
+(as I think I've mentioned already on this list) to avoid the false
+positives e.g. from rear.
+
+There are currently ~70 ish packages to fix. I'll fix them up, but help
+is welcome :)
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+c-icap-server:/var/run/icapd
+clamav:/var/run/clamav
+courier-authdaemon:/var/run/authdaemon
+cups:/var/run/cups/certs
+cyrus-sasl:/var/run/saslauthd
+devmon:/var/run/devmon
+dirmngr:/var/run/dirmngr
+dspam:/var/run/dspam
+fcron:/var/run/fcron
+firebird-server-common:/var/run/firebird
+gearmand:/var/run/gearmand
+gkrellm:/var/lock/gkrellm
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+gnokii:/var/lock/gnokii
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+initscripts:/var/run/utmp
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+kolab-saslauthd:/var/run/saslauthd
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+libvirt-utils:/var/run/libvirt/libxl
+libvirt-utils:/var/run/libvirt/lockd
+libvirt-utils:/var/run/libvirt/lxc
+libvirt-utils:/var/run/libvirt/network
+libvirt-utils:/var/run/libvirt/qemu
+libvirt-utils:/var/run/libvirt/uml
+lirc:/var/run/lirc
+lirc:/var/run/lirc/lircd
+lirc:/var/run/lirc/lircd.pid
+mpd:/var/run/mpd
+mtink:/var/run/mtink
+networkmanager:/var/run/NetworkManager
+ngircd:/var/run/ngircd
+openldap-servers:/var/run/ldap
+pacemaker:/var/run/crm
+pdns:/var/run/powerdns
+php-fpm:/var/run/php-fpm
+plymouth:/var/run/plymouth
+powerman:/var/run/powerman
+prelude-manager:/var/run/prelude-manager
+prosody:/var/run/prosody
+radvd:/var/run/radvd
+rdnssd:/var/run/rdnssd
+resource-agents:/var/run/resource-agents
+samba-common:/var/run/samba
+shibboleth-sp:/var/run/shibboleth
+siproxd:/var/run/siproxd
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+spread:/var/run/spread
+ss5:/var/run/ss5
+stompserver:/var/run/stompserver
+system-config-printer-udev:/var/run/udev-configure-printer
+system-config-printer-udev:/var/run/udev-configure-printer/usb-uris
+tinyproxy:/var/run/tinyproxy
+tomcat:/var/run/tomcat.pid
+util-vserver:/var/run/vservers
+util-vserver:/var/run/vservers.rev
+util-vserver:/var/run/vshelper
+uucp:/var/lock/uucp
+uuidd:/var/run/uuidd
+varnish:/var/run/varnish
+vtun:/var/lock/vtund
+xen:/var/run/xend
+xen:/var/run/xend/boot
+xen:/var/run/xenstored
+zabbix-agent:/var/run/zabbix
+zabbix:/var/run/zabbix
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+Then there are the udev rules :)
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+alsa-tools-firmware:/etc/udev/rules.d/90-alsa-tools-firmware.rules
+
+dkms-dahdi:/etc/udev/rules.d/40-dahdi.rules
+dkms-dahdi:/etc/udev/rules.d/40-xpp.rules
+drbd-utils:/etc/udev/rules.d/65-drbd.rules
+em8300:/etc/udev/rules.d/em8300.rules
+gammu:/etc/udev/rules.d/69-gammu-acl.rules
+gnome-bluetooth:/etc/udev/rules.d/61-gnome-bluetooth-rfkill.rules
+gpsd:/etc/udev/rules.d/99-gpsd.rules
+hplip-model-data:/etc/udev/rules.d/40-hplip.rules
+hplip-model-data:/etc/udev/rules.d/56-hpmud_add_printer.rules
+hplip-model-data:/etc/udev/rules.d/56-hpmud_support.rules
+hplip-model-data:/etc/udev/rules.d/86-hpmud_plugin.rules
+hso-rezero:/etc/udev/rules.d/49_hso-udev.rules
+iguanair:/etc/udev/rules.d/iguanaIR.rules
+indilib:/etc/udev/rules.d/99-gpusb.rules
+kino:/etc/udev/rules.d/kino.rules
+kpartx:/etc/udev/rules.d/kpartx.rules
+libcrystalhd-common:/etc/udev/rules.d/65-crystalhd.rules
+libdjconsole:/etc/udev/rules.d/45-hpdjconsole.rules
+libdrm-common:/etc/udev/rules.d/91-drm-modeset.rules
+libifp:/etc/udev/rules.d/10-libifp.rules
+libnjb:/etc/udev/rules.d/60-libnjb.rules
+libunicap:/etc/udev/rules.d/50-euvccam.rules
+lirc:/etc/udev/rules.d/lirc.rules
+mtools:/etc/udev/rules.d/69-floppy-acl.rules
+multipath-tools:/etc/udev/rules.d/multipath.rules
+pilot-link-common:/etc/udev/rules.d/60-libpisock.rules
+razercfg:/etc/udev/rules.d/01-razer-udev.rules
+sound-scripts:/etc/udev/rules.d/alsa.rules
+uhd:/etc/udev/rules.d/10-usrp-uhd.rules
+util-linux:/etc/udev/rules.d/60-raw.rules
+virtualbox:/etc/udev/rules.d/virtualbox.rules
+virtualbox-guest-additions:/etc/udev/rules.d/vbox-additions.rules
+xen:/etc/udev/rules.d/xen-backend.rules
+xen:/etc/udev/rules.d/xend.rules
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+Col
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Christiaan Welvaart at 12/01/13 16:14 did gyre and
+gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Sat, 12 Jan 2013, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As mentioned previously it's likely far better these days to NOT import
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> whole packages from other distros.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't see any reason for &quot;importing&quot; a package that is already in svn.
+</I>&gt;<i> Any merging should be done in a svn checkout and then committed
+</I>&gt;<i> normally. SRPM importing is useful for importing new packages.
+</I>
+That's more or less what I was saying unless I've missed something? Or
+are you just arguing semantics over &quot;import&quot; vs. &quot;replace whole spec&quot;?
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+Cheers
+
+Col
+
+--
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
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+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+ <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B>
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+Fixes runtime crashes, and build errors.
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+<PRE>On Saturday 12. January 2013 17.43, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+&gt;<i> I will do all of these but as I've said already, people are more than
+</I>&gt;<i> welcome to fix some up :D
+</I>
+As I'm the maintainer of radvd I can try and fix that one. :-)=
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+But just so I understand this: We should replace e.g &#171;%{buildroot}%{_localstatedir}/run/blahblah&#187;
+with &#171;%{buildroot}/run/blahblah&#187; ?
+Or is there another rpm variable I should use?
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Johnny A. Solbu at 12/01/13 17:29 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Saturday 12. January 2013 17.43, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I will do all of these but as I've said already, people are more than
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> welcome to fix some up :D
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As I'm the maintainer of radvd I can try and fix that one. :-)=
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But just so I understand this: We should replace e.g &#171;%{buildroot}%{_localstatedir}/run/blahblah&#187;
+</I>&gt;<i> with &#171;%{buildroot}/run/blahblah&#187; ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Or is there another rpm variable I should use?
+</I>
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+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/System_Service_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/System_Service_policy</A>
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+:<i>)
+</I>
+Col
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+--
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+I tried to have it before freeze time, but a nasty
+error blocked me, now it's fixed thanks to barjac.
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+tmb can you please go on with virtualbox to fix
+this bug also:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7021?">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7021?</A>
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+Thanks,
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+Excuse my mentor, Juancho alert me, but trust too much on me
+Maybe I trust too much in other distros
+I would like to work with you to learn more about the packaging of servers
+(systemctl etc...)
+I ask thousand excuses again.
+
+Saludos.
+
+Bersuit
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+2013/1/12 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Christiaan Welvaart at 12/01/13 16:14 did gyre and
+</I>&gt;<i> gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sat, 12 Jan 2013, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; As mentioned previously it's likely far better these days to NOT import
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; whole packages from other distros.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I don't see any reason for &quot;importing&quot; a package that is already in svn.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Any merging should be done in a svn checkout and then committed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; normally. SRPM importing is useful for importing new packages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's more or less what I was saying unless I've missed something? Or
+</I>&gt;<i> are you just arguing semantics over &quot;import&quot; vs. &quot;replace whole spec&quot;?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;<i> colin(at)mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Day Job:
+</I>&gt;<i> Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Open Source:
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+&gt;<i> 12.01.2013 10:05, AL13N kirjutas:
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+&gt;<i> There are currently ~70 ish packages to fix. I'll fix them up, but help
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+&gt;<i> I will do all of these but as I've said already, people are more than
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Johnny A. Solbu at 12/01/13 17:29 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Saturday 12. January 2013 17.43, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I will do all of these but as I've said already, people are more than
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; welcome to fix some up :D
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As I'm the maintainer of radvd I can try and fix that one. :-)=
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But just so I understand this: We should replace e.g
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#171;%{buildroot}%{_localstatedir}/run/blahblah&#187; with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#171;%{buildroot}/run/blahblah&#187; ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Or is there another rpm variable I should use?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/System_Service_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/System_Service_policy</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>
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+what wiki page deals with the udev part?
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+<PRE>Op zaterdag 12 januari 2013 22:24:35 schreef AL13N:
+&gt;<i> Op zaterdag 12 januari 2013 16:43:09 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+</I>&gt;<i> [..]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; There are currently ~70 ish packages to fix. I'll fix them up, but help
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is welcome :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Then there are the udev rules :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I will do all of these but as I've said already, people are more than
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; welcome to fix some up :D
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i'll try and fix xen for both
+</I>
+it seems for xen, it doesn't seem so standard. fedora ghosted those 3, so i
+did that too.
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+<PRE>12.01.2013 23:17, AL13N kirjutas:
+&gt;<i> Op zaterdag 12 januari 2013 11:23:05 schreef Sander Lepik:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 12.01.2013 10:05, AL13N kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We should drop all msn related things right now, just in case it's all
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> shut
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> down.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We have no reason to drop them just yet. They will work another year. Who
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> knows, maybe even more.
+</I>&gt;<i> i guess you didn't see the sarcasm...
+</I>I guess I didn't :)
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+ <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B>
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+Moved /var/run/radvd to /run/radvd
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+<PRE>On Sun, 13 Jan 2013, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Please push radvd.
+</I>&gt;<i> Moved /var/run/radvd to /run/radvd
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+If the version didn't change, you can submit yourself.
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+&gt;<i> Please push ttyrec.
+</I>&gt;<i> Fixes runtime crashes, and build errors.
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, 8 Jan 2013, Adrien Guichard wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I noticed that chromium-browser-unstable was version 25 (which is ok), but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> stable/beta was stick to version 21.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> According to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.fr/">http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.fr/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> stable version should be 23, beta version 24. Many sandboxing enhancement
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> comes with recent chrome releases and Native API vesion 23 and further are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> interesting to me, so it would be cool to have those (stable/beta up to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> date) in Mageia 3.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The -unstable 25.x was done by me. It crashes on some pages, e.g.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/</A> and I disabled Native API support because it
+</I>&gt;<i> relied on bundled binaries. OTOH it does support h.264 video through system
+</I>&gt;<i> ffmpeg. A build of version 24 exhibited the same renderer process segfault
+</I>&gt;<i> so I did not upload any beta or stable packages.
+</I>
+I cannot build chromium here, my computer does not have enough swap
+for final link. Looking after gyp files (responsible for generating
+makefiles), I saw that proprietary codec should not be included in
+Chromium branding.
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+According to &quot;chromium/src/media/media.gyp&quot;
+ ['proprietary_codecs==1 or branding==&quot;Chrome&quot;', {
+you should be able to exclude proprietary codec easly.
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+You can completly disable ffmpeg, if you look in the same file to
+'use_ffmpeg', or tune enabled ffmpeg (look in
+&quot;chromium/src/third_party/ffmpeg/ffmpeg.gyp&quot; for ffmpeg_branding,
+use_system_ffmpeg, build_ffmpegsumo ...)
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+I tried Dartium version 25 (chromium with Dart VM), I am not facing
+any issue on any web page (but I cleaned .cache/chromium directory,
+and use a distinct user dir, since Mageia default to chromium 21).
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+ <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B>
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+Ahh, so mkrel only changes can be submited?
+Nice. Didn't know that. :-)=
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+&gt;<i> On Sunday 13. January 2013 00.05, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If the version didn't change, you can submit yourself.
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+</I>&gt;<i> Ahh, so mkrel only changes can be submited?
+</I>&gt;<i> Nice. Didn't know that. :-)=
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+</I>
+Well, it's a _version_ freeze :)
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+ <B>Anssi Hannula</B>
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
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+</I>&gt;<i> please let connman get through, it fixes build issues
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+<PRE>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
+Hash: SHA1
+
+Hello,
+can someone push libtorrent-rasterbar?
+I was notified by David Walser but I was very busy at that time and I
+forgot to update this package only.
+
+There are no new major features but few bugs are fixed with this new
+version.
+
+Changelog (0.16.4..0.16.6):
+* fixed verbose log error for NAT holepunching
+* fix a bunch of typos in python bindings
+* make get_settings available in the python binding regardless of
+deprecated functions
+* fix typo in python settings binding
+* fix possible dangling pointer use in peer list
+* fix support for storing arbitrary data in the DHT
+* fixed bug in uTP packet circle buffer
+* fix potential crash when using torrent_handle::add_piece
+* added missing add_torrent_alert to python binding
+- --
+* udp socket refcounter fix
+* added missing async_add_torrent to python bindings
+* raised the limit for bottled http downloads to 2 MiB
+* add support for magnet links and URLs in python example client
+* fixed typo in python bindings' add_torrent_params
+* introduce a way to add built-in plugins from python
+* consistently disconnect the same peer when two peers simultaneously
+connect
+* fix local endpoint queries for uTP connections
+* small optimization to local peer discovery to ignore our own broadcasts
+* try harder to bind the udp socket (uTP, DHT, UDP-trackers, LSD) to the
+same port as TCP
+* relax file timestamp requirements for accepting resume data
+* fix performance issue in web seed downloader (coalescing of blocks
+sometimes wouldn't work)
+* web seed fixes (better support for torrents without trailing / in web
+seeds)
+* fix some issues with SSL over uTP connections
+* fix UDP trackers trying all endpoints behind the hostname
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+Regards
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+Matteo
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+check them in, or can I check them in now and not submit a build
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+Latest version fixes build issue (failing check) with nml 0.2.4. New
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+Is there going to be Mageia Mate isos for version 3?
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+ <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B>
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+I think virtualBox is causing my mga2 desktop system to Freeze after running a Cauldron guest for a couple of weeks, resulting in me having to do a hard reset. (SysRq magic doesn't work).
+I used to get these lockups when my mga2 laptop ran my VirtualBox Cauldron guest., it would also freeze after a couple of weeks.
+Both computers are i7 systems. the laptop have 6G ram and the desktop system have 16G ram.
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+ <B>Christiaan Welvaart</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, 13 Jan 2013, Sandro CAZZANIGA wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Is there going to be Mageia Mate isos for version 3?
+</I>
+Do you mean Mate the gnome2 successor? And then what do you mean with isos
+in this case? It is not even packaged in cauldron, that would first need
+to be done before a whole desktop environment can end op on ISO images.
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+ <B>Sandro CAZZANIGA</B>
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+<PRE>Le 13/01/2013 10:27, Christiaan Welvaart a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Sun, 13 Jan 2013, Sandro CAZZANIGA wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is there going to be Mageia Mate isos for version 3?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you mean Mate the gnome2 successor? And then what do you mean with
+</I>&gt;<i> isos in this case? It is not even packaged in cauldron, that would
+</I>&gt;<i> first need to be done before a whole desktop environment can end op on
+</I>&gt;<i> ISO images.
+</I>
+I know that, thanks, thought there were components of Mate in Cauldron
+yet, maybe I'm wrong.
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+On 12/01/13 12:44, Sandro CAZZANIGA wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 12/01/2013 11:27, Johnny A. Solbu a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> One thing first, there's a problem with your recent message:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gpg: Signature made Fri Jan 11 23:51:59 2013 CET using RSA key
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ID 5A40807D gpg: BAD signature from &quot;Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">scazzaniga at linagora.com</A>&gt;&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Arf, my thunderbird encoding is bad :/
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Maybe different instead of bad. I only get warning messages about
+Johnny's mails in this thread, but yours are OK
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+<PRE>On 13 January 2013 10:07, umeabot &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> Why should one use a module to get the PID and the PPID of a process where
+</I>&gt;<i> there are the '$$' variable and the 'getppid()' builtin ? (Not mentioning
+</I>&gt;<i> the equivalent 'POSIX::getpid()' and 'POSIX::getppid()' functions.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In fact, this is useful on Linux, with multithreaded programs. Linux' C
+</I>&gt;<i> library, using the linux thread model, returns different values of the PID
+</I>&gt;<i> and the PPID from different threads. (Other thread models such as NPTL
+</I>&gt;<i> don't have the same behaviour). This module forces perl to call the
+</I>&gt;<i> underlying C functions 'getpid()' and 'getppid()'.
+</I>
+given that:
+1) this module is not maintained (last release in 2006)
+2) NPTL is the default since switching to kernel-2.6/glibc-2.4, aka
+since mdv2007.1,
+
+Shouldn't we investigate if apache-mod_perl really needs this?
+Note that RH's mod_perl now requires it too since last year.
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+On 13/01/13 10:38, Marja van Waes wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 12/01/13 12:44, Sandro CAZZANIGA wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 12/01/2013 11:27, Johnny A. Solbu a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> One thing first, there's a problem with your recent message:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> gpg: Signature made Fri Jan 11 23:51:59 2013 CET using RSA key
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ID 5A40807D gpg: BAD signature from &quot;Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">scazzaniga at linagora.com</A>&gt;&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Arf, my thunderbird encoding is bad :/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe different instead of bad. I only get warning messages about
+</I>&gt;<i> Johnny's mails in this thread, but yours are OK
+</I>
+Oh, mine is just as bad as Johnny's :/
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+<PRE>Le 13/01/2013 11:52, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 13/01/13 10:38, Marja van Waes wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 12/01/13 12:44, Sandro CAZZANIGA wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 12/01/2013 11:27, Johnny A. Solbu a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> One thing first, there's a problem with your recent message:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> gpg: Signature made Fri Jan 11 23:51:59 2013 CET using RSA key
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ID 5A40807D gpg: BAD signature from &quot;Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">scazzaniga at linagora.com</A>&gt;&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Arf, my thunderbird encoding is bad :/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe different instead of bad. I only get warning messages about
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Johnny's mails in this thread, but yours are OK
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oh, mine is just as bad as Johnny's :/
+</I>
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+You may just precise &quot;Always use PGP/Mime&quot; in Thunderbird :)
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+&gt;<i> Question:
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+</I>&gt;<i> I have a large number of packages on my machine that are intended for
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 4 release. Should I wait until after the Mageia 3 release to
+</I>&gt;<i> check them in, or can I check them in now and not submit a build
+</I>&gt;<i> request. Either is fine with me, and the only reason for checking
+</I>&gt;<i> them early is so that it doesn't get lost if I have a local machine
+</I>&gt;<i> crash.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Why don't you import them now, and submit them for MGA3? New packages
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+&gt;<i> Le 13/01/2013 11:52, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 13/01/13 10:38, Marja van Waes wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 12/01/13 12:44, Sandro CAZZANIGA wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 12/01/2013 11:27, Johnny A. Solbu a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> One thing first, there's a problem with your recent message:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> gpg: Signature made Fri Jan 11 23:51:59 2013 CET using RSA key
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ID 5A40807D gpg: BAD signature from &quot;Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">scazzaniga at linagora.com</A>&gt;&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Arf, my thunderbird encoding is bad :/
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe different instead of bad. I only get warning messages about
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Johnny's mails in this thread, but yours are OK
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oh, mine is just as bad as Johnny's :/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You may just precise &quot;Always use PGP/Mime&quot; in Thunderbird :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Where is that?
+
+I did use Enigmail, but I've now disabled it, which was quite hard:
+clicking disable and then closing and restarting TB, didn't disable
+Enigmail (tried 3 times). Only choosing &quot;restart now&quot; on the Enigmail
+line in the Add-ons Manager did.
+
+(Mga 2, Enigmail 1.4)
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+I never used the &quot;restart now&quot; button before, because most of the time
+first a mail needs to finished after changing a setting.
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+<PRE>13.01.2013 13:58, zezinho kirjutas:
+&gt;<i> Em 13-01-2013 05:54, Joseph Wang escreveu:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Question:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have a large number of packages on my machine that are intended for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 4 release. Should I wait until after the Mageia 3 release to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> check them in, or can I check them in now and not submit a build
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> request. Either is fine with me, and the only reason for checking
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> them early is so that it doesn't get lost if I have a local machine
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> crash.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why don't you import them now, and submit them for MGA3? New packages are still accepted!
+</I>Because he was not allowed :)
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+<PRE>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
+Hash: SHA1
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+On Sunday 13. January 2013 10.38, Marja van Waes wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 12/01/13 12:44, Sandro CAZZANIGA wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Arf, my thunderbird encoding is bad :/
+</I>
+And you fixed it, I see. :-)=
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+&gt;<i> I only get warning messages about
+</I>&gt;<i> Johnny's mails in this thread, but yours are OK
+</I>
+Perhaps that's because I normaly sign as attachment and not inline.
+This message however is inline. Did that make a difference?
+
+The only warnings I get are that other peoples signatures here is ok but can't be validated, as I or no one I've signed the keys to have signed any of your keys. (I only sign keys where I can validate that the key belongs to the person claming to own it.)
+
+- --
+Johnny A. Solbu
+PGP key ID: 0xFA687324
+-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
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+<PRE>Le 13/01/2013 13:06, Johnny A. Solbu a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Sunday 13. January 2013 10.38, Marja van Waes wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 12/01/13 12:44, Sandro CAZZANIGA wrote:
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+Le 13/01/2013 13:00, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A> a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Revision
+</I>&gt;<i> 371667
+</I>&gt;<i> Author
+</I>&gt;<i> sander85
+</I>&gt;<i> Date
+</I>&gt;<i> 2013-01-13 13:00:46 +0100 (Sun, 13 Jan 2013)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do not own /etc/skel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified Paths
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * cauldron/etcskel/current/SPECS/etcskel.spec
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;#cauldronetcskelcurrentSPECSetcskelspec&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified: cauldron/etcskel/current/SPECS/etcskel.spec
+</I>&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;<i> --- cauldron/etcskel/current/SPECS/etcskel.spec 2013-01-13 12:00:39 UTC (rev 371666)
+</I>&gt;<i> +++ cauldron/etcskel/current/SPECS/etcskel.spec 2013-01-13 12:00:46 UTC (rev 371667)
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -24,4 +24,4 @@
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> %files
+</I>&gt;<i> %doc ChangeLog
+</I>&gt;<i> -%config(noreplace) /etc/skel
+</I>&gt;<i> +%config(noreplace) /etc/skel/*
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Please, could you explain the raison of this change.
+/etc/skel is now owned by no package:
+urpmf ^/etc/skel$
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+regards,
+Luc
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and AL13N at 12/01/13 21:42 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Op zaterdag 12 januari 2013 22:24:35 schreef AL13N:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Op zaterdag 12 januari 2013 16:43:09 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [..]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There are currently ~70 ish packages to fix. I'll fix them up, but help
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> is welcome :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Then there are the udev rules :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I will do all of these but as I've said already, people are more than
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> welcome to fix some up :D
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i'll try and fix xen for both
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> it seems for xen, it doesn't seem so standard. fedora ghosted those 3, so i
+</I>&gt;<i> did that too.
+</I>
+Ghosting achieves very little in this case. Does xen automatically
+create those directories happily without the need for tmpfiles? If so
+I'd personally not package them at all (as it just continues to show up
+in the list generated by the urpmf command listed earlier as a false
+positive).
+
+While ghosting does have the advantage that rpm -qf will return sort of
+valid results, it does make this transition period more difficult as it
+would mean our &quot;list of packages&quot; would never get smaller.
+
+I'm also not totally convinced that the rpm -qf use case is benefitial
+enough to keep package %files+%ghosts synced with tmpfiles contents,
+especially as the tmpfiles become part of the upstream package.
+
+If it could somehow become automated (i.e. via a packaging script) then
+I'd be happy to support that.
+
+So, question. Does xen actually work? There appears to be no tmpfiles in
+it and thus I don't see what creates those folders unless xen does it
+internally (i.e. like gdm does).
+
+Can you confirm it's OK without tmpfiles and I'll manually filter it out
+of my urpmf command. If you also feel there is no real point in ghosting
+here specifically and not in any of the other packages, please do remove
+the ghosts as it'll save that manual filtering.
+
+&gt;<i> no idea what to do with the udev parts, what is wrong with it?
+</I>
+Nothing crazy. They just shouldn't be in /etc they should be in
+%_udevrulesdir when shipping in a package (and not be %config).
+
+Cheers
+
+Col
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Bersuit Vera at 12/01/13 19:57 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hi all
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Excuse my mentor, Juancho alert me, but trust too much on me
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe I trust too much in other distros
+</I>&gt;<i> I would like to work with you to learn more about the packaging of
+</I>&gt;<i> servers (systemctl etc...)
+</I>&gt;<i> I ask thousand excuses again.
+</I>
+No need for a thousand, just one will do :)
+
+Like I say, don't worry too much - mistakes happen when learning and we
+all learn more from a mistake than anything else :)
+
+Col
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Joseph Wang at 13/01/13 04:54 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Question:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have a large number of packages on my machine that are intended for
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 4 release. Should I wait until after the Mageia 3 release to
+</I>&gt;<i> check them in, or can I check them in now and not submit a build
+</I>&gt;<i> request. Either is fine with me, and the only reason for checking
+</I>&gt;<i> them early is so that it doesn't get lost if I have a local machine
+</I>&gt;<i> crash.
+</I>
+You should wait until after the packages subversion has been branched
+for mga3 as this is the tree used for updates to mga3 throughout it's
+life cycle.
+
+This typically happens when we release.
+
+So in short, if it's for mga4, then wait a little longer please :)
+
+Cheers
+
+Col
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+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+<PRE>13.01.2013 15:23, Luc Menut kirjutas:
+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 13/01/2013 13:00, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A> a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Revision
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 371667
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Author
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sander85
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Date
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2013-01-13 13:00:46 +0100 (Sun, 13 Jan 2013)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do not own /etc/skel
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Modified Paths
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * cauldron/etcskel/current/SPECS/etcskel.spec
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;#cauldronetcskelcurrentSPECSetcskelspec&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Modified: cauldron/etcskel/current/SPECS/etcskel.spec
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --- cauldron/etcskel/current/SPECS/etcskel.spec 2013-01-13 12:00:39 UTC (rev 371666)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +++ cauldron/etcskel/current/SPECS/etcskel.spec 2013-01-13 12:00:46 UTC (rev 371667)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> @@ -24,4 +24,4 @@
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %files
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %doc ChangeLog
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -%config(noreplace) /etc/skel
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +%config(noreplace) /etc/skel/*
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please, could you explain the raison of this change.
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/skel is now owned by no package:
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmf ^/etc/skel$
+</I><A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/rejected/cauldron/core/release/20130111193211.umeabot.valstar.1917.youri">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/rejected/cauldron/core/release/20130111193211.umeabot.valstar.1917.youri</A>
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+<PRE>Sander Lepik skrev 13.1.2013 15:34:
+&gt;<i> 13.01.2013 15:23, Luc Menut kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 13/01/2013 13:00, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A> a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Revision
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 371667
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Author
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sander85
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Date
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2013-01-13 13:00:46 +0100 (Sun, 13 Jan 2013)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Do not own /etc/skel
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Modified Paths
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * cauldron/etcskel/current/SPECS/etcskel.spec
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;#cauldronetcskelcurrentSPECSetcskelspec&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Modified: cauldron/etcskel/current/SPECS/etcskel.spec
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --- cauldron/etcskel/current/SPECS/etcskel.spec 2013-01-13 12:00:39 UTC (rev 371666)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +++ cauldron/etcskel/current/SPECS/etcskel.spec 2013-01-13 12:00:46 UTC (rev 371667)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> @@ -24,4 +24,4 @@
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %files
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %doc ChangeLog
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -%config(noreplace) /etc/skel
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +%config(noreplace) /etc/skel/*
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please, could you explain the raison of this change.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /etc/skel is now owned by no package:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> urpmf ^/etc/skel$
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/rejected/cauldron/core/release/20130111193211.umeabot.valstar.1917.youri">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/rejected/cauldron/core/release/20130111193211.umeabot.valstar.1917.youri</A>
+</I>
+Hm,
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+in this case I think we need a rpmlint exception.
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Sander Lepik at 13/01/13 13:34 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 13.01.2013 15:23, Luc Menut kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 13/01/2013 13:00, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A> a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Revision
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 371667
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Author
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sander85
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Date
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2013-01-13 13:00:46 +0100 (Sun, 13 Jan 2013)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Do not own /etc/skel
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Modified Paths
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * cauldron/etcskel/current/SPECS/etcskel.spec
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;#cauldronetcskelcurrentSPECSetcskelspec&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Modified: cauldron/etcskel/current/SPECS/etcskel.spec
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --- cauldron/etcskel/current/SPECS/etcskel.spec 2013-01-13 12:00:39 UTC (rev 371666)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +++ cauldron/etcskel/current/SPECS/etcskel.spec 2013-01-13 12:00:46 UTC (rev 371667)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> @@ -24,4 +24,4 @@
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %files
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %doc ChangeLog
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -%config(noreplace) /etc/skel
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +%config(noreplace) /etc/skel/*
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please, could you explain the raison of this change.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /etc/skel is now owned by no package:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> urpmf ^/etc/skel$
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/rejected/cauldron/core/release/20130111193211.umeabot.valstar.1917.youri">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/rejected/cauldron/core/release/20130111193211.umeabot.valstar.1917.youri</A>
+</I>
+So should the filesystem package own this dir instead?
+
+Col
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+<PRE>13.01.2013 15:48, Thomas Backlund kirjutas:
+&gt;<i> Hm,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> in this case I think we need a rpmlint exception
+</I>Dumb question but why some package has to own it?
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+<PRE>Le 13/01/2013 14:34, Sander Lepik a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 13.01.2013 15:23, Luc Menut kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 13/01/2013 13:00, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A> a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Revision
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 371667
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Author
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sander85
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Date
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2013-01-13 13:00:46 +0100 (Sun, 13 Jan 2013)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Do not own /etc/skel
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Modified Paths
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * cauldron/etcskel/current/SPECS/etcskel.spec
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;#cauldronetcskelcurrentSPECSetcskelspec&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Modified: cauldron/etcskel/current/SPECS/etcskel.spec
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --- cauldron/etcskel/current/SPECS/etcskel.spec 2013-01-13 12:00:39 UTC (rev 371666)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +++ cauldron/etcskel/current/SPECS/etcskel.spec 2013-01-13 12:00:46 UTC (rev 371667)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> @@ -24,4 +24,4 @@
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %files
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %doc ChangeLog
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -%config(noreplace) /etc/skel
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +%config(noreplace) /etc/skel/*
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please, could you explain the raison of this change.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /etc/skel is now owned by no package:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> urpmf ^/etc/skel$
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/rejected/cauldron/core/release/20130111193211.umeabot.valstar.1917.youri">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/rejected/cauldron/core/release/20130111193211.umeabot.valstar.1917.youri</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thanks Sander.
+
+Then, either we should add a rpmlint exception for etcskel, either we
+should fix filesystem.
+
+urpmq -l etcskel
+/etc/skel/tmp
+/usr/share/doc/etcskel
+/usr/share/doc/etcskel/ChangeLog
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+urpmq --whatrequires etcskel
+basesystem-minimal
+etcskel
+
+urpmq --requires etcskel
+bash
+I don't understand why etcskel requires bash.
+
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+As etcskel only owned /etc/skel and /etc/skel/tmp, if we move /etc/skel
+to filesystem, it does not make sense to keep etcskel rpm, and we should
+move /etc/skel/tmp too, and drop etcskel package.
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+regards,
+Luc
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 13/01/13 13:26 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and AL13N at 12/01/13 21:42 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Op zaterdag 12 januari 2013 22:24:35 schreef AL13N:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op zaterdag 12 januari 2013 16:43:09 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [..]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There are currently ~70 ish packages to fix. I'll fix them up, but help
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> is welcome :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Then there are the udev rules :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I will do all of these but as I've said already, people are more than
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> welcome to fix some up :D
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> i'll try and fix xen for both
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it seems for xen, it doesn't seem so standard. fedora ghosted those 3, so i
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> did that too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ghosting achieves very little in this case. Does xen automatically
+</I>&gt;<i> create those directories happily without the need for tmpfiles? If so
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd personally not package them at all (as it just continues to show up
+</I>&gt;<i> in the list generated by the urpmf command listed earlier as a false
+</I>&gt;<i> positive).
+</I>
+Hmm, actually no, I think I must be wrong here... seems ghosted files
+don't show up in urpmf...
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+So I guess there is no harm in leaving the %ghosts, but I still say
+it'll be an annoying packaging overhead to keep it in sync with either
+tmpfiles or internal application logic.
+
+Col
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+--
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
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+<PRE>mscore was submitted by umeabot 18 hours ago and is still building (for
+18 hours...) without any progress
+seems longer to build than libreoffice or kernel,
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+Looping somewhere ?
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+NB there is a file conflict concerning one of its BuildRequires :
+BuildRequires: texlive-mf2pt1
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+ file /usr/share/info/mf2pt1.info.xz from install of
+texlive-texmf-20120701-1.mga3.noarch conflicts with file from package
+texlive-mf2pt1-2.5.0-1.mga3.noarch
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+is this a possible explanation ?
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+rabbit0 and rabbit2 have been stuck on it for 18 hours
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+<PRE>On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 2:31 PM, PhilippeDidier
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">philippedidier at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> mscore was submitted by umeabot 18 hours ago and is still building (for
+</I>&gt;<i> 18 hours...) without any progress
+</I>&gt;<i> seems longer to build than libreoffice or kernel,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Looping somewhere ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> NB there is a file conflict concerning one of its BuildRequires :
+</I>&gt;<i> BuildRequires: texlive-mf2pt1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> file /usr/share/info/mf2pt1.info.xz from install of
+</I>&gt;<i> texlive-texmf-20120701-1.mga3.noarch conflicts with file from package
+</I>&gt;<i> texlive-mf2pt1-2.5.0-1.mga3.noarch
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> is this a possible explanation ?
+</I>
+Yes, this is the problem (and why I posted about the conflict last
+night, hoping someone would fix it while I sleep :) )
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 12/01/13 16:13 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> We've a couple packages to fix. eg: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8672">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8672</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 188/241: gkrellm #############################################
+</I>&gt;<i> error: unpacking of archive failed on file /var/lock/gkrellm: cpio: mkdir
+</I>&gt;<i> failed - Inappropriate ioctl for device
+</I>&gt;<i> error: gkrellm-2.3.5-6.mga3.x86_64: install failed
+</I>
+For this particular case I just dropped the dir.
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+The code internally will create the dir if it doesn't exist.
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>Hi,
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+libvirt failed to build with mass-rebuild. I also tweaked it's tmpfiles
+support but it too didn't build (unsurprising as it fails in configure).
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+I tried with both kernel-headers and kernel-source but it didn't help.
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+Can someone with more clue here have a look?
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+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130113155229.colin.valstar.17600/log/libvirt-1.0.1-5.mga3/build.0.20130113155250.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130113155229.colin.valstar.17600/log/libvirt-1.0.1-5.mga3/build.0.20130113155250.log</A>
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+Feel free to remove my kernel-source BR if it's bogus.
+
+Col
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+--
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>Colin Guthrie skrev 13.1.2013 18:00:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> libvirt failed to build with mass-rebuild. I also tweaked it's tmpfiles
+</I>&gt;<i> support but it too didn't build (unsurprising as it fails in configure).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I tried with both kernel-headers and kernel-source but it didn't help.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can someone with more clue here have a look?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130113155229.colin.valstar.17600/log/libvirt-1.0.1-5.mga3/build.0.20130113155250.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130113155229.colin.valstar.17600/log/libvirt-1.0.1-5.mga3/build.0.20130113155250.log</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Feel free to remove my kernel-source BR if it's bogus.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I'll take a look.
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+ <B>Christiaan Welvaart</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, 13 Jan 2013, Colin Guthrie wrote:
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+&gt;<i> libvirt failed to build with mass-rebuild. I also tweaked it's tmpfiles
+</I>&gt;<i> support but it too didn't build (unsurprising as it fails in configure).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I tried with both kernel-headers and kernel-source but it didn't help.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can someone with more clue here have a look?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130113155229.colin.valstar.17600/log/libvirt-1.0.1-5.mga3/build.0.20130113155250.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130113155229.colin.valstar.17600/log/libvirt-1.0.1-5.mga3/build.0.20130113155250.log</A>
+</I>
+This likely the same problem as:
+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130111161923.umeabot.valstar.10551/log/connman-1.9-4.mga3/build.0.20130111162158.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130111161923.umeabot.valstar.10551/log/connman-1.9-4.mga3/build.0.20130111162158.log</A>
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+I tried to fix one such issue in bridge-utils, but I think the header file
+linux/if_bridge.h itself is wrong. It uses struct in6_addr but doesn't
+#include in6.h .
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+ <B>Barry Jackson</B>
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+It does not impact other packages, it fixes some bugs and has new
+features that would be good to have in Mageia 3, as the current version
+we have is quite old.
+It builds OK in iurt locally and basic functional tests are OK.
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+It's in svn ready to submit.
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+<PRE>Christiaan Welvaart skrev 13.1.2013 18:18:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, 13 Jan 2013, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> libvirt failed to build with mass-rebuild. I also tweaked it's tmpfiles
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> support but it too didn't build (unsurprising as it fails in configure).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I tried with both kernel-headers and kernel-source but it didn't help.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can someone with more clue here have a look?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130113155229.colin.valstar.17600/log/libvirt-1.0.1-5.mga3/build.0.20130113155250.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130113155229.colin.valstar.17600/log/libvirt-1.0.1-5.mga3/build.0.20130113155250.log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This likely the same problem as:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130111161923.umeabot.valstar.10551/log/connman-1.9-4.mga3/build.0.20130111162158.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130111161923.umeabot.valstar.10551/log/connman-1.9-4.mga3/build.0.20130111162158.log</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I tried to fix one such issue in bridge-utils, but I think the header
+</I>&gt;<i> file linux/if_bridge.h itself is wrong. It uses struct in6_addr but
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't #include in6.h .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Indeed looks that way.
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+I've sent a patch upstream to see if they agree.
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+I will then add it to our kernel build too.
+--
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+<PRE>Thomas Backlund skrev 13.1.2013 20:40:
+&gt;<i> Christiaan Welvaart skrev 13.1.2013 18:18:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, 13 Jan 2013, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libvirt failed to build with mass-rebuild. I also tweaked it's tmpfiles
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> support but it too didn't build (unsurprising as it fails in configure).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I tried with both kernel-headers and kernel-source but it didn't help.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Can someone with more clue here have a look?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130113155229.colin.valstar.17600/log/libvirt-1.0.1-5.mga3/build.0.20130113155250.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130113155229.colin.valstar.17600/log/libvirt-1.0.1-5.mga3/build.0.20130113155250.log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This likely the same problem as:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130111161923.umeabot.valstar.10551/log/connman-1.9-4.mga3/build.0.20130111162158.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130111161923.umeabot.valstar.10551/log/connman-1.9-4.mga3/build.0.20130111162158.log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I tried to fix one such issue in bridge-utils, but I think the header
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> file linux/if_bridge.h itself is wrong. It uses struct in6_addr but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> doesn't #include in6.h .
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Indeed looks that way.
+</I>
+or not...
+
+building connman shows that was wrong:
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+In file included from /usr/include/arpa/inet.h:22:0,
+ from ./include/connman/inet.h:25,
+ from src/connman.h:128,
+ from src/tethering.c:40:
+/usr/include/netinet/in.h:35:5: error: expected identifier before
+numeric constant
+/usr/include/netinet/in.h:197:8: error: redefinition of 'struct in6_addr'
+In file included from /usr/include/linux/if_bridge.h:17:0,
+ from src/tethering.c:38:
+/usr/include/linux/in6.h:30:8: note: originally defined here
+In file included from /usr/include/arpa/inet.h:22:0,
+ from ./include/connman/inet.h:25,
+ from src/connman.h:128,
+ from src/tethering.c:40:
+/usr/include/netinet/in.h:238:8: error: redefinition of 'struct
+sockaddr_in6'
+In file included from /usr/include/linux/if_bridge.h:17:0,
+ from src/tethering.c:38:
+/usr/include/linux/in6.h:46:8: note: originally defined here
+In file included from /usr/include/arpa/inet.h:22:0,
+ from ./include/connman/inet.h:25,
+ from src/connman.h:128,
+ from src/tethering.c:40:
+/usr/include/netinet/in.h:274:8: error: redefinition of 'struct ipv6_mreq'
+In file included from /usr/include/linux/if_bridge.h:17:0,
+ from src/tethering.c:38:
+/usr/include/linux/in6.h:54:8: note: originally defined here
+ CC src/src_connmand-stats.o
+make[1]: *** [src/src_connmand-tethering.o] Error 1
+make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
+make: *** [all] Error 2
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+Thomas
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+the rebuild bot doesn't rebuild tainted &amp; non-free, which is needed:
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+&gt;<i> Hi
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+</I>&gt;<i> the rebuild bot doesn't rebuild tainted &amp; non-free, which is needed:
+</I>&gt;<i> - for new toolchain (glibc/binutils/gcc)
+</I>&gt;<i> - for s/debug/debuginfo/
+</I>&gt;<i> - for mini debuginfo
+</I>&gt;<i> - for core&lt;-&gt;tainted synchronization
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+nonfree are rebuilt.
+
+the dual media ones (core / tainted) only is rebuilt on media last
+submitted ...
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+but this is known and missing packages will be pushed after initial full
+rebuild is done.
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+<PRE>Op zondag 13 januari 2013 13:26:51 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+[...]
+&gt;<i> Ghosting achieves very little in this case. Does xen automatically
+</I>&gt;<i> create those directories happily without the need for tmpfiles? If so
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd personally not package them at all (as it just continues to show up
+</I>&gt;<i> in the list generated by the urpmf command listed earlier as a false
+</I>&gt;<i> positive).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> While ghosting does have the advantage that rpm -qf will return sort of
+</I>&gt;<i> valid results, it does make this transition period more difficult as it
+</I>&gt;<i> would mean our &quot;list of packages&quot; would never get smaller.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm also not totally convinced that the rpm -qf use case is benefitial
+</I>&gt;<i> enough to keep package %files+%ghosts synced with tmpfiles contents,
+</I>&gt;<i> especially as the tmpfiles become part of the upstream package.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If it could somehow become automated (i.e. via a packaging script) then
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd be happy to support that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, question. Does xen actually work? There appears to be no tmpfiles in
+</I>&gt;<i> it and thus I don't see what creates those folders unless xen does it
+</I>&gt;<i> internally (i.e. like gdm does).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you confirm it's OK without tmpfiles and I'll manually filter it out
+</I>&gt;<i> of my urpmf command. If you also feel there is no real point in ghosting
+</I>&gt;<i> here specifically and not in any of the other packages, please do remove
+</I>&gt;<i> the ghosts as it'll save that manual filtering.
+</I>
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+ <B>Olav Vitters</B>
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+<PRE>Mageia currently has bijiben 3.7.3. This is a new development version.
+Bijiben is a new application and there have only been unstable releases
+up to now. Seems best to stick with the latest unstable, even if the
+change itself might cause bugs (serialization format change could result
+in bugs).
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+<PRE>Just fixes a crasher and some translation updates.
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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+<A HREF="http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Linux-and-Windows-8-Fast-Startup-puts-data-at-risk-1780640.html">http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Linux-and-Windows-8-Fast-Startup-puts-data-at-risk-1780640.html</A>
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+Anyone with some time to look into it would be welcome :)
+
+It seems we need at least the patches to refuse to mount rw a
+partition used with this pseudo hibernate, and maybe see the ones
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+<PRE>Funda:
+I appreciate all your work. But I hate to work on packages I am the maintainer and then when
+committing I see you worked on the very same package.
+Haven't you followed the IRC discussion?
+
+Are you going to fix all php modules that don't build? Thanks and I will stop working on them.
+Or you could start at the end and we may meet in the middle?
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+My mistake too, when Alfonso told me he was going to use the mdv's spec I
+didn't explicitly told him to merge back any change on mga spec (maybe for
+me this was something implicit to be done but now I see it isn't for
+everybody), and just checked his work on the update which was ok.
+
+I'll be more careful in the future when reviewing my apprentice's work, I'm
+sorry for the trouble caused by me and Alfonso.
+
+Cheers,
+
+On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Bersuit Vera &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bersuit.cooker at gmail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi all
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Excuse my mentor, Juancho alert me, but trust too much on me
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe I trust too much in other distros
+</I>&gt;<i> I would like to work with you to learn more about the packaging of servers
+</I>&gt;<i> (systemctl etc...)
+</I>&gt;<i> I ask thousand excuses again.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Saludos.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bersuit
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2013/1/12 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Christiaan Welvaart at 12/01/13 16:14 did gyre and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; On Sat, 12 Jan 2013, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; As mentioned previously it's likely far better these days to NOT import
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; whole packages from other distros.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I don't see any reason for &quot;importing&quot; a package that is already in svn.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Any merging should be done in a svn checkout and then committed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; normally. SRPM importing is useful for importing new packages.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's more or less what I was saying unless I've missed something? Or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> are you just arguing semantics over &quot;import&quot; vs. &quot;replace whole spec&quot;?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> colin(at)mageia.org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Day Job:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Open Source:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+Just a quick thank you to everyone who has helped out with tmpfiles stuff.
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+Over the weekend the list has halved from over 60 pkgs to just 28 this
+morning! Yay! Thanks to everyone who is helping!
+
+What's left:
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+cups:/var/run/cups/certs
+cyrus-sasl:/var/run/saslauthd
+glusterfs-server:/var/run/glusterfsd
+gnokii:/var/lock/gnokii
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+leafnode:/var/lock/news
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+openldap-servers:/var/run/ldap
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+php-fpm:/var/run/php-fpm
+plymouth:/var/run/plymouth
+prelude-manager:/var/run/prelude-manager
+samba-common:/var/run/samba
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+stompserver:/var/run/stompserver
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+system-config-printer-udev:/var/run/udev-configure-printer/usb-uris
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+uucp:/var/lock/uucp
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+varnish:/var/run/varnish
+vtun:/var/lock/vtund
+zabbix-agent:/var/run/zabbix
+zabbix:/var/run/zabbix
+ziproxy:/var/run/ziproxy
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+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
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+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 14/01/13 10:20 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> initscripts:/var/run/netreport
+</I>&gt;<i> initscripts:/var/run/utmp
+</I>&gt;<i> networkmanager:/var/run/NetworkManager
+</I>
+Fixed these ones already this morning. $dayjob beckons for now tho'.
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+Cheers
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please push xulrunner to cauldron, this is now updated to last esr
+</I>&gt;<i> version and add fixes added by rtp in firefox
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> D.
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and nicolas vigier at 12/01/13 15:45 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sat, 12 Jan 2013, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; It seems the rpmlint checks I added to detect (and prevent upload of)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; files in /var/run and in /etc/udev/rules.d etc. are not working.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Can someone see if I've done something wrong?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The file distribution.error.list from rpmlint-mageia-policy is not used
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; by the buildsystem to reject uploads. Instead it is using a list of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; rpmlint errors defined in youri configuration. I added them now :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Maybe we could change it to use distribution.error.list file instead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Awesome, thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Will this affect mga2 builds too? It shouldn't there so hopefully there
+</I>&gt;<i> is no conflict :)
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+&gt;<i> Mageia currently has bijiben 3.7.3. This is a new development version.
+</I>&gt;<i> Bijiben is a new application and there have only been unstable releases
+</I>&gt;<i> up to now. Seems best to stick with the latest unstable, even if the
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+&gt;<i> Please push the new version of gnuradio - just released.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It does not impact other packages, it fixes some bugs and has new features
+</I>&gt;<i> that would be good to have in Mageia 3, as the current version we have is
+</I>&gt;<i> quite old.
+</I>&gt;<i> It builds OK in iurt locally and basic functional tests are OK.
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+<PRE>On Sun, 13 Jan 2013, Jani V&#228;limaa wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> please push openttd-opengfx.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Latest version fixes build issue (failing check) with nml 0.2.4. New
+</I>&gt;<i> version also fixes &quot;missing sprites&quot; warnings with openttd 1.3.0-beta1,
+</I>&gt;<i> which we currently have.
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+&gt;<i> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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+</I>&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> can someone push libtorrent-rasterbar?
+</I>&gt;<i> I was notified by David Walser but I was very busy at that time and I
+</I>&gt;<i> forgot to update this package only.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There are no new major features but few bugs are fixed with this new
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+ <B>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil</B>
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
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+</I>&gt;<i> please push on the BS the new version of httping ( updated on the svn by oden)
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+ <B>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou</B>
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+<PRE>Please push sir, which I updated to version 2.5.1.
+I has some bug fixes and a few new features that we want and that are
+not too risky to put in for Mageia 3 (since nothing depends on sir).
+I tested the install and usability.
+
+Complete Changelog:
+- relative path bug-fix
+- project moved to CMake
+- Conditional compilation: disable or enable metadata support
+- Settings and DetailsBrowser classes added
+- Image width and height line edit replaced by spin box
+- faster selection using Exiv2 image size detection if it&#8217;s available
+- bugfix: delete selected items from list in ConvertDialog - now delete
+all selected items
+- shared data manipulation methods moved to SharedInformation;
+- save and enabled fields in MetadataUtils::Metadata removed - now used
+Settings fields
+- DetailsOptions namespace moved to separated file
+- widgets moved to separated directory
+- option and selection dialogs splited to few widgets for more flexibility
+- remove temporary files at end of session
+- width of SVG images render in DetailsBrowser patch
+- drop event improved
+- myQTreeWidget renamed to TreeWidget, some code moved from ConvertDialog
+- external columns into tree view like size (px,K/MiB) added
+- new options group box &#8220;File list&#8221; and header view context menu for
+TreeWidget settings
+- converting from SVG bug when dest size is more than default size fixed
+- keep aspect ratio added to settings
+- English translation added, Polish translation updated
+- many files moved from resource file to another files
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+--
+Malo
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+<PRE>This is a bug fix and performance fix release. Nothing depends on coq in
+mageia.
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+Changes from V8.4 to V8.4pl1
+============================
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+Bug fixes
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+- Solved bugs :
+ #2851 #2863 #2865 #2893 #2895 #2892 #2905 #2906 #2907 #2917 #2921
+ #2930 #2941 #2878
+- Partially fixed bug : #2904
+- Various fixes concerning coq_makefile
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+Optimizations
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+- &quot;Union by rank&quot; optimization for universes contributed by J.H. Jourdan
+ and G. Sherrer (see union-find-and-coq-universes on gagallium blog).
+
+Libraries
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+ due to bug #2904 (GenericMinMax, OrdersTac)
+- No more constant &quot;int&quot; in ZArith/Int.v to avoid name clash with OCaml
+ (cf bug #2878).
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+Coqide
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+ (in particular added a missing close_on_exec primitive before forking).
+- On windows, launching coqide with the -debug option now produces
+ a log file in the user's temporary directory. The location of this
+ log file is displayed in the &quot;About&quot; message.
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+Cheers,
+--
+Malo
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+ <B>Kira</B>
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+<PRE>I had a machine installed mga3 alpha3 and wanna update
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+it to catch up. But the update sequence stopped at rtkit
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+package and it just down go on for about 1 hr.
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+If I kill the update process and go on, even though
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+it seemed to go smooth to do another urpmi --auto-update ,
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+but then I lost ability to login/access filesystem then
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+total failure of the desktop. I still can change the tty1~tty7
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+Anyone please check it?
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+ <B>Damien Lallement</B>
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+Please push libburn and libisofs.
+New version 1.2.6 is a bug fix release and API update:
+<A HREF="http://libburnia-project.org/wiki/Releases">http://libburnia-project.org/wiki/Releases</A>
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+I guess its a fitting christmas and new year present for a hard years work.
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+<A HREF="http://www.linux.com/learn/docs/682469-the-5-most-important-linux-projects-of-2012/">http://www.linux.com/learn/docs/682469-the-5-most-important-linux-projects-of-2012/</A>
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+ <B>Damien Lallement</B>
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+<A HREF="http://www.spinics.net/lists/xorg/msg54908.html">http://www.spinics.net/lists/xorg/msg54908.html</A>
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+<PRE>On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 8:19 PM, tv &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Name : makedev Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version : 4.4 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release : 14.mga3 Build Date: Sun Jan 13 21:06:51 2013
+</I>&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: ecosse.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> Group : System/Kernel and hardware Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Size : 58419 License: GPLv2+
+</I>&gt;<i> Signature : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager : tv &lt;tv&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL : <A HREF="http://cvs.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/soft/makedev/">http://cvs.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/soft/makedev/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary : A program used for creating the device files in /dev
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> This package contains the makedev program, which makes it easier to create
+</I>&gt;<i> and maintain the files in the /dev directory. /dev directory files
+</I>&gt;<i> correspond to a particular device supported by Linux (serial or printer
+</I>&gt;<i> ports, scanners, sound cards, tape drives, CD-ROM drives, hard drives,
+</I>&gt;<i> etc.) and interface with the drivers in the kernel.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The makedev package is a basic part of your Mageia system and it needs
+</I>&gt;<i> to be installed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> tv &lt;tv&gt; 4.4-14.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 378420
+</I>&gt;<i> - fix upgrading (not &quot;corrupting&quot; devtmpfs)
+</I>&gt;<i> - devfs is dead for nearly a decade
+</I>
+This package causes /usr/lib/root-mirror being in mounted in chroots
+on the build system (and not being umounted) during clean chroot
+creation
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+sucuk had 65 mounted, oldest one being
+/home/iurt/chroot_tmp/iurt/chroot_cauldron.i586.0.20130113202409/usr/lib/root-mirror
+just after this package was uploaded
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Kira at 14/01/13 15:58 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> I had a machine installed mga3 alpha3 and wanna update
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> it to catch up. But the update sequence stopped at rtkit
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> package and it just down go on for about 1 hr.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If I kill the update process and go on, even though
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> it seemed to go smooth to do another urpmi --auto-update ,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> but then I lost ability to login/access filesystem then
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> total failure of the desktop. I still can change the tty1~tty7
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> but I can do nothing: only the mouse move, but no way to control
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> anything or login into textmode.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyone please check it?
+</I>
+Chances are some package has written /run/nologin file.
+
+This can happen if you run &quot;systemd-tmpfiles --create&quot; which perhaps
+some package might still do in it's %post....
+
+A reboot should clear out this problem. I'm not 100% sure but I think
+root logins should also still be allowed even with a nologin file...
+could be wrong tho'.
+
+Col
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+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+ <B>Kira</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Unable to complete update rtkit package and system failure">elegant.pegasus at gmail.com
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+ <I>Mon Jan 14 18:44:50 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>&#22312; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:39:31 +0800, Colin Guthrie
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;&#23531;&#36947;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Chances are some package has written /run/nologin file.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This can happen if you run &quot;systemd-tmpfiles --create&quot; which perhaps
+</I>&gt;<i> some package might still do in it's %post....
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A reboot should clear out this problem. I'm not 100% sure but I think
+</I>&gt;<i> root logins should also still be allowed even with a nologin file...
+</I>&gt;<i> could be wrong tho'.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I can't do reboot. The system will become responseless if I gave
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Donald Stewart at 14/01/13 16:41 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hey,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess its a fitting christmas and new year present for a hard years work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well done everyone.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.linux.com/learn/docs/682469-the-5-most-important-linux-projects-of-2012/">http://www.linux.com/learn/docs/682469-the-5-most-important-linux-projects-of-2012/</A>
+</I>
+Yup it was very nice.
+
+Carla writes nice things about us :) (see also:
+<A HREF="http://www.linux.com/learn/docs/689416-weekend-project-linux-for-beginners">http://www.linux.com/learn/docs/689416-weekend-project-linux-for-beginners</A>)
+
+I also posted this on our Google+ community page:
+<A HREF="https://plus.google.com/u/0/105465824670275586186/posts/dKx8SDDgeJJ">https://plus.google.com/u/0/105465824670275586186/posts/dKx8SDDgeJJ</A>
+
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+--
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+ <B>Donald Stewart</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5BMageai-dev%5D%20Thought%20that%20this%20was%20worth%20a%20mention&In-Reply-To=%3CCAPn0va6Ut-_ajcuJN-6CxvPxXiw0q7tk5-6D2nqscnUpkVb%3DRQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>On 14 January 2013 17:45, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Donald Stewart at 14/01/13 16:41 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hey,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I guess its a fitting christmas and new year present for a hard years work.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well done everyone.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.linux.com/learn/docs/682469-the-5-most-important-linux-projects-of-2012/">http://www.linux.com/learn/docs/682469-the-5-most-important-linux-projects-of-2012/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yup it was very nice.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Carla writes nice things about us :) (see also:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.linux.com/learn/docs/689416-weekend-project-linux-for-beginners">http://www.linux.com/learn/docs/689416-weekend-project-linux-for-beginners</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I also posted this on our Google+ community page:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://plus.google.com/u/0/105465824670275586186/posts/dKx8SDDgeJJ">https://plus.google.com/u/0/105465824670275586186/posts/dKx8SDDgeJJ</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>
+That was probably where I got it from....
+At least she can spell Mageia :)
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+<PRE>Also can someone run pkgsubmit for these two packages
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Kira at 14/01/13 17:44 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> &#22312; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:39:31 +0800, Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;&#23531;&#36947;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Chances are some package has written /run/nologin file.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This can happen if you run &quot;systemd-tmpfiles --create&quot; which perhaps
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> some package might still do in it's %post....
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A reboot should clear out this problem. I'm not 100% sure but I think
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> root logins should also still be allowed even with a nologin file...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> could be wrong tho'.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can't do reboot. The system will become responseless if I gave
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> shutdown/restart/logout
+</I>
+So are you saying that you cannot login, but you also cannot reboot?
+
+Is that not a &quot;stale mate&quot; or &quot;catch 22&quot; situation?
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>&#22312; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 02:24:09 +0800, Colin Guthrie
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;&#23531;&#36947;:
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I can't do reboot. The system will become responseless if I gave
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shutdown/restart/logout
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So are you saying that you cannot login, but you also cannot reboot?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is that not a &quot;stale mate&quot; or &quot;catch 22&quot; situation?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Well, after that I gave up and reinstall it back to alpha3.
+
+I know it's weird, but that's what I get.
+
+If I do reboot, the system sill be stalled before entering reboot sequence.
+
+Hardware button seems to work, but at that time I got mad and reinstall it
+
+back to alpha3.
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+ <B>Damien Lallement</B>
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+Please push calibre, it's a bug fix release and it adds support for Kobo
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+Thanks.
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+just a little reminder for those of you, who are planning to come to
+FOSDEM and have not registered in the wiki yet:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Fosdem_2013">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Fosdem_2013</A>
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+We do need some more people at the booth and we should know, how many
+people we will be for Saturday night's dinner.
+So if you are planning to come, go to the wiki and register there.
+
+Thanks,
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+<PRE>Le 14/01/2013 21:02, Oliver Burger a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> just a little reminder for those of you, who are planning to come to
+</I>&gt;<i> FOSDEM and have not registered in the wiki yet:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Fosdem_2013">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Fosdem_2013</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We do need some more people at the booth and we should know, how many
+</I>&gt;<i> people we will be for Saturday night's dinner.
+</I>&gt;<i> So if you are planning to come, go to the wiki and register there.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I'll be there, but not h24 on the mageia stand :)
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+<PRE>[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at ThinkFox</A> Downloads]# urpmi
+google-musicmanager-beta_current_x86_64.rpm
+A requested package cannot be installed:
+google-musicmanager-beta-1.0.54.4672-0.x86_64 (due to unsatisfied
+qtwebkit)
+Continue installation anyway? (Y/n)
+While some packages may have been installed, there were failures.
+A requested package cannot be installed:
+google-musicmanager-beta-1.0.54.4672-0.x86_64 (due to unsatisfied
+qtwebkit)
+Continue installation anyway?
+
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at ThinkFox</A> Downloads]# rpm -qa | grep qtwebkit
+libqtwebkit2.2_4-2.2.2-5.mga3
+qtwebkit-qmlplugin-2.2.2-5.mga3
+lib64qtwebkit2.2_4-2.2.2-5.mga3
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+Any help would be welcome . .
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+Cheers,
+R.Fox
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+Please let in ldetect.
+It fixes for good the issue with max devices limit by reallocating
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+<PRE>Thierry Vignaud skrev 14.1.2013 22:31:
+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please let in ldetect.
+</I>&gt;<i> It fixes for good the issue with max devices limit by reallocating
+</I>&gt;<i> memory when hitting the limit (mga#8320)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thx
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+</I>
+Done.
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+--
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+Il 12/01/2013 20:26, Angelo Naselli ha scritto:
+&gt;<i> Please push gsoap.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I tried to have it before freeze time, but a nasty error blocked
+</I>&gt;<i> me, now it's fixed thanks to barjac.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> tmb can you please go on with virtualbox to fix this bug also:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7021?">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7021?</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks, Angelo
+</I>Ping
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+<PRE>On 14 January 2013 20:27, Robert Fox &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at ThinkFox</A> Downloads]# urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> google-musicmanager-beta_current_x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> A requested package cannot be installed:
+</I>&gt;<i> google-musicmanager-beta-1.0.54.4672-0.x86_64 (due to unsatisfied
+</I>&gt;<i> qtwebkit)
+</I>&gt;<i> Continue installation anyway? (Y/n)
+</I>&gt;<i> While some packages may have been installed, there were failures.
+</I>&gt;<i> A requested package cannot be installed:
+</I>&gt;<i> google-musicmanager-beta-1.0.54.4672-0.x86_64 (due to unsatisfied
+</I>&gt;<i> qtwebkit)
+</I>&gt;<i> Continue installation anyway?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at ThinkFox</A> Downloads]# rpm -qa | grep qtwebkit
+</I>&gt;<i> libqtwebkit2.2_4-2.2.2-5.mga3
+</I>&gt;<i> qtwebkit-qmlplugin-2.2.2-5.mga3
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64qtwebkit2.2_4-2.2.2-5.mga3
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any help would be welcome . .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> R.Fox
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I just forced the install without the deps...
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+ <B>Olivier Blin</B>
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+<PRE>Donald Stewart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt; writes:
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+&gt;<i> On 14 January 2013 20:27, Robert Fox &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A requested package cannot be installed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> google-musicmanager-beta-1.0.54.4672-0.x86_64 (due to unsatisfied
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> qtwebkit)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Continue installation anyway?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at ThinkFox</A> Downloads]# rpm -qa | grep qtwebkit
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> libqtwebkit2.2_4-2.2.2-5.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> qtwebkit-qmlplugin-2.2.2-5.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> lib64qtwebkit2.2_4-2.2.2-5.mga3
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just forced the install without the deps...
+</I>
+Hi,
+
+If it works fine after installing with --nodeps, maybe we could add
+&quot;qtwebkit&quot; provides in the matching package.
+Do you know if this application is linked against libQtWebKit.so.4?
+
+--
+Olivier Blin - blino
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+<PRE>On 14 January 2013 20:56, Olivier Blin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at blino.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Donald Stewart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 14 January 2013 20:27, Robert Fox &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> A requested package cannot be installed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> google-musicmanager-beta-1.0.54.4672-0.x86_64 (due to unsatisfied
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> qtwebkit)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Continue installation anyway?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at ThinkFox</A> Downloads]# rpm -qa | grep qtwebkit
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libqtwebkit2.2_4-2.2.2-5.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> qtwebkit-qmlplugin-2.2.2-5.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64qtwebkit2.2_4-2.2.2-5.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I just forced the install without the deps...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If it works fine after installing with --nodeps, maybe we could add
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;qtwebkit&quot; provides in the matching package.
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you know if this application is linked against libQtWebKit.so.4?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Olivier Blin - blino
+</I>
+I don't know if it does, but I can check on it later. I was
+considering making a downloader for it ala skype and flash.
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+<PRE>On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Olivier Blin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at blino.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Donald Stewart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 14 January 2013 20:27, Robert Fox &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> A requested package cannot be installed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> google-musicmanager-beta-1.0.54.4672-0.x86_64 (due to unsatisfied
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> qtwebkit)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Continue installation anyway?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at ThinkFox</A> Downloads]# rpm -qa | grep qtwebkit
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libqtwebkit2.2_4-2.2.2-5.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> qtwebkit-qmlplugin-2.2.2-5.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64qtwebkit2.2_4-2.2.2-5.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I just forced the install without the deps...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If it works fine after installing with --nodeps, maybe we could add
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;qtwebkit&quot; provides in the matching package.
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you know if this application is linked against libQtWebKit.so.4?
+</I>
+It seems to work fine on opensuse ignoring the dependency
+<A HREF="http://opensuseadventures.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/easily-install-dropbox-skype-and-google.html">http://opensuseadventures.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/easily-install-dropbox-skype-and-google.html</A>
+Trying here the %post complains about missing service atd but then runs fine
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+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at chopin</A> ~]$ ldd /opt/google/musicmanager/MusicManager | grep -i qt
+ libQtGui.so.4 =&gt; /lib64/libQtGui.so.4 (0x00007f19bcb74000)
+ libQtNetwork.so.4 =&gt; /lib64/libQtNetwork.so.4 (0x00007f19bc83c000)
+ libQtCore.so.4 =&gt; /lib64/libQtCore.so.4 (0x00007f19bc365000)
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+ libQtLocation.so.1 =&gt; /usr/lib64/libQtLocation.so.1 (0x00007f19b3d73000)
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+ libQtOpenGL.so.4 =&gt; /usr/lib64/libQtOpenGL.so.4 (0x00007f19b3848000)
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+<PRE>On 14/01/13 21:05, Sandro CAZZANIGA wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 14/01/2013 21:02, Oliver Burger a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> just a little reminder for those of you, who are planning to come to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> FOSDEM and have not registered in the wiki yet:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Fosdem_2013">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Fosdem_2013</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We do need some more people at the booth and we should know, how many
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> people we will be for Saturday night's dinner.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So if you are planning to come, go to the wiki and register there.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll be there, but not h24 on the mageia stand :)
+</I>
+No one will be there all the time :)
+
+Don't forget to register for the dinner!
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Fosdem_2013#Dinner_Saturday_night">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Fosdem_2013#Dinner_Saturday_night</A>
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+<PRE>bersuit pushed an unstable version of vinagre. maintainer is set as
+nobody.
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+maintainer. Almost no changes in this version, should be safe to update.
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+ <B>JA Magall&#243;n</B>
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+
+As the mass rebuild seems almost done, I have supposed that everything in
+my box not tagged ad mga3 are leftovers from previous installs, as I had
+not reinstalled my box since mga1. I checked this:
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+rpm -qa --nosignature --qf &quot;%{n}-%{v}-%{r}\n&quot; | grep mga1 | sort
+
+(I have another list for mga2 ;) )
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+But some packages seems to be needed, and skipped in the mass rebuild.
+This is the list I get in my main box:
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+werewolf:~/bin# mga1
+jline-0.9.94-4.mga1
+lib64atlas3-x86_64-3.8.3-7.mga1
+lib64iec16022_0-0.2.4-4.mga1
+lib64jbig1-2.0-5.mga1
+lib64jbig-devel-2.0-5.mga1
+lib64mpeg2dec0-0.5.1-5.mga1
+lib64opencore-amr0-0.1.2-3.mga1
+net-tools-1.60-34.mga1
+perl-Spreadsheet-ParseExcel-0.590.0-1.mga1
+python-dateutil-1.5-2.mga1
+transfugdrake-1.9.4-1.mga1
+
+Some look pretty important:
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+jline -&gt; rhino -&gt; jdk7
+net-tools -&gt; basesystem
+transfugdrake -&gt; userdrake
+
+... and so on.
+
+Mirrors also seem to contain packages dated 2011. I will wait for mirrors to settle
+and look again. If they are dead packages, should not they be killed from mirrors ?
+
+TIA
+
+--
+J.A. Magallon &lt;jamagallon()ono!com&gt; \ Winter is coming...
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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+<PRE>On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:28 PM, JA Magall&#243;n &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jamagallon at ono.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As the mass rebuild seems almost done, I have supposed that everything in
+</I>&gt;<i> my box not tagged ad mga3 are leftovers from previous installs, as I had
+</I>&gt;<i> not reinstalled my box since mga1. I checked this:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm -qa --nosignature --qf &quot;%{n}-%{v}-%{r}\n&quot; | grep mga1 | sort
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (I have another list for mga2 ;) )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But some packages seems to be needed, and skipped in the mass rebuild.
+</I>
+450 failed to build (list on
+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/results.php?run=2013-01-11">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/results.php?run=2013-01-11</A>)
+63 got rejected (no handy list available yet, visible on
+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/?user=umeabot">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/?user=umeabot</A> but only the last 48h are
+displayed)
+
+&gt;<i> This is the list I get in my main box:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> werewolf:~/bin# mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> jline-0.9.94-4.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64atlas3-x86_64-3.8.3-7.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64iec16022_0-0.2.4-4.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64jbig1-2.0-5.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64jbig-devel-2.0-5.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64mpeg2dec0-0.5.1-5.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64opencore-amr0-0.1.2-3.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> net-tools-1.60-34.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> perl-Spreadsheet-ParseExcel-0.590.0-1.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> python-dateutil-1.5-2.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> transfugdrake-1.9.4-1.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some look pretty important:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> jline -&gt; rhino -&gt; jdk7
+</I>&gt;<i> net-tools -&gt; basesystem
+</I>&gt;<i> transfugdrake -&gt; userdrake
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ... and so on.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mirrors also seem to contain packages dated 2011. I will wait for mirrors to
+</I>&gt;<i> settle
+</I>&gt;<i> and look again. If they are dead packages, should not they be killed from
+</I>&gt;<i> mirrors ?
+</I>
+Many of them should be fixed, some should be killed
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+&gt;<i> fwang &lt;fwang&gt; 1.60-35.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 388179
+</I>&gt;<i> - disable more
+</I>&gt;<i> - * move to /usr
+</I>&gt;<i> * disable HWSTRIP as it doesnot build with latest kernel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> + umeabot &lt;umeabot&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> - Mass Rebuild - <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:Mageia3MassRebuild">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:Mageia3MassRebuild</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> + dmorgan &lt;dmorgan&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> - Own %{_sysconfdir}/apparmor.d
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> + tmb &lt;tmb&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> - imported package net-tools
+</I>
+How can it be imported?????
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+&gt;<i> Well, after that I gave up and reinstall it back to alpha3.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I know it's weird, but that's what I get.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If I do reboot, the system sill be stalled before entering reboot
+</I>&gt;<i> sequence.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hardware button seems to work, but at that time I got mad and reinstall
+</I>&gt;<i> it
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> back to alpha3.
+</I>
+Should I try to update without update the package rtkit?
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+According to the changelog, nothing big is changed.
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+please push jline, this is a new version that builds witn maven 3
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+<PRE>On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Thierry Vignaud
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 15 January 2013 04:33, fwang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fwang &lt;fwang&gt; 1.60-35.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 388179
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - disable more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - * move to /usr
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * disable HWSTRIP as it doesnot build with latest kernel
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + umeabot &lt;umeabot&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Mass Rebuild - <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:Mageia3MassRebuild">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:Mageia3MassRebuild</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + dmorgan &lt;dmorgan&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Own %{_sysconfdir}/apparmor.d
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + tmb &lt;tmb&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - imported package net-tools
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How can it be imported?????
+</I>
+seems it hasn't been rebuilded for a while and that at this time we
+had markrelease issues see:
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/net-tools/current/SPECS/net-tools.spec?view=log">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/net-tools/current/SPECS/net-tools.spec?view=log</A>
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+ <B>D.Morgan</B>
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+please push transfugdrake, this is the version in svn and it builds.
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+ <B>Olav Vitters</B>
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+<PRE>On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 08:33:18AM +0100, Bersuit Vera wrote:
+&gt;<i> I ask excuse, just I saw the update on
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/updates.html,">http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/updates.html,</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> I trush the updates are to stable. I'am just a Padawan.
+</I>
+No problem at all, this is how anyone learns.
+
+I was hoping you wanted to become the vino or vinagre maintainer though :P
+
+FYI, almost all software on ftp.gnome.org follows
+a.b.c and optionally .d
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+where
+a = major
+b = minor (even=stable, uneven=unstable)
+c = micro (generally ok to update)
+d = pico (only used in case previous version did not build, highly
+ recommended to update if a.b.c is still the same)
+
+so
+3.6.0 =&gt; 3.6.1 is just a stable update
+3.6.0 =&gt; 3.6.0.2 likely fixed some build issues which you might or not
+not have experienced on Mageia
+3.6.2 =&gt; 3.7.2 means the it goes from stable to unstable
+3.7.91 =&gt; 3.8.0 means a new stable release
+
+Note that on GNOME, the software is QA tested from git. However, the
+tarballs are released individually by maintainers. Then after tarball
+releases it is checked by the release team. Could happen that you first
+have 3.6.x, quickly followed by 3.6.x.1 or even a 3.6.x.2. Generally
+this only happens for the first few micro releases in a new development
+cycle (e.g. 3.7.0 to 3.7.4).
+
+--
+Regards,
+Olav
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+ <B>Kira</B>
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+It seems to be 2 question now, not only rtkit.
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+ <B>Bersuit Vera</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Freeze%20push%3A%20vino%203.7.4&In-Reply-To=%3CCAM0YTb2%3DpjXRXfqMdkY0V84Mn_BgKL5emPkw97gnCy8YOE%3DA5w%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: vino 3.7.4">bersuit.cooker at gmail.com
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+ <I>Tue Jan 15 09:57:28 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>Hi Olav
+Thanks, I'll talk to you when working in gnome packages.
+Send me gnome junior job anytime, I'am a mageia gnome soldier :-P
+
+Saludos.
+
+Bersuit
+
+
+
+2013/1/15 Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 08:33:18AM +0100, Bersuit Vera wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I ask excuse, just I saw the update on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/updates.html,">http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/updates.html,</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I trush the updates are to stable. I'am just a Padawan.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No problem at all, this is how anyone learns.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was hoping you wanted to become the vino or vinagre maintainer though :P
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> FYI, almost all software on ftp.gnome.org follows
+</I>&gt;<i> a.b.c and optionally .d
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> where
+</I>&gt;<i> a = major
+</I>&gt;<i> b = minor (even=stable, uneven=unstable)
+</I>&gt;<i> c = micro (generally ok to update)
+</I>&gt;<i> d = pico (only used in case previous version did not build, highly
+</I>&gt;<i> recommended to update if a.b.c is still the same)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> so
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.6.0 =&gt; 3.6.1 is just a stable update
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.6.0 =&gt; 3.6.0.2 likely fixed some build issues which you might or not
+</I>&gt;<i> not have experienced on Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.6.2 =&gt; 3.7.2 means the it goes from stable to unstable
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.7.91 =&gt; 3.8.0 means a new stable release
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Note that on GNOME, the software is QA tested from git. However, the
+</I>&gt;<i> tarballs are released individually by maintainers. Then after tarball
+</I>&gt;<i> releases it is checked by the release team. Could happen that you first
+</I>&gt;<i> have 3.6.x, quickly followed by 3.6.x.1 or even a 3.6.x.2. Generally
+</I>&gt;<i> this only happens for the first few micro releases in a new development
+</I>&gt;<i> cycle (e.g. 3.7.0 to 3.7.4).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Olav
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+ <B>Olav Vitters</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Freeze%20push%3A%20vino%203.7.4&In-Reply-To=%3C20130115092524.GA4984%40bkor.dhs.org%3E"
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+<PRE>On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 09:57:28AM +0100, Bersuit Vera wrote:
+&gt;<i> Thanks, I'll talk to you when working in gnome packages.
+</I>&gt;<i> Send me gnome junior job anytime, I'am a mageia gnome soldier :-P
+</I>
+No need to ask beforehand. If you think you're doing the right thing
+then go ahead. Prefer an accidental mistake to happen over bureaucracy.
+Only ask if you're really unsure and cannot figure it out yourself.
+Other than that: just do it and don't worry.
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+--
+Regards,
+Olav
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Pascal Terjan at 14/01/13 22:07 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Olivier Blin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at blino.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Donald Stewart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 14 January 2013 20:27, Robert Fox &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> A requested package cannot be installed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> google-musicmanager-beta-1.0.54.4672-0.x86_64 (due to unsatisfied
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> qtwebkit)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Continue installation anyway?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at ThinkFox</A> Downloads]# rpm -qa | grep qtwebkit
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libqtwebkit2.2_4-2.2.2-5.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> qtwebkit-qmlplugin-2.2.2-5.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64qtwebkit2.2_4-2.2.2-5.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just forced the install without the deps...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If it works fine after installing with --nodeps, maybe we could add
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;qtwebkit&quot; provides in the matching package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do you know if this application is linked against libQtWebKit.so.4?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems to work fine on opensuse ignoring the dependency
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://opensuseadventures.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/easily-install-dropbox-skype-and-google.html">http://opensuseadventures.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/easily-install-dropbox-skype-and-google.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trying here the %post complains about missing service atd but then runs fine
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at chopin</A> ~]$ ldd /opt/google/musicmanager/MusicManager | grep -i qt
+</I>&gt;<i> libQtGui.so.4 =&gt; /lib64/libQtGui.so.4 (0x00007f19bcb74000)
+</I>&gt;<i> libQtNetwork.so.4 =&gt; /lib64/libQtNetwork.so.4 (0x00007f19bc83c000)
+</I>&gt;<i> libQtCore.so.4 =&gt; /lib64/libQtCore.so.4 (0x00007f19bc365000)
+</I>&gt;<i> libQtWebKit.so.4 =&gt; /lib64/libQtWebKit.so.4 (0x00007f19ba765000)
+</I>&gt;<i> libQtLocation.so.1 =&gt; /usr/lib64/libQtLocation.so.1 (0x00007f19b3d73000)
+</I>&gt;<i> libQtSensors.so.1 =&gt; /usr/lib64/libQtSensors.so.1 (0x00007f19b3b46000)
+</I>&gt;<i> libQtOpenGL.so.4 =&gt; /usr/lib64/libQtOpenGL.so.4 (0x00007f19b3848000)
+</I>&gt;<i> libQtSql.so.4 =&gt; /usr/lib64/libQtSql.so.4 (0x00007f19b1cf0000)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+Yeah the %post scripts in these google rpms to add custom urpmi packages
+seems a bit rubbish (they do it via an at/cron job from what I gather).
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+At least they are doing urpmi stuff tho' - just not sure I approve of it
+silently and automatically adding a software repository on my computer...
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+Same for the google talk plugin.
+
+Col
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+--
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 14/01/13 23:26 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> bersuit pushed an unstable version of vinagre. maintainer is set as
+</I>&gt;<i> nobody.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> not sure why it was done, but should update from 3.7.3 to 3.7.4.
+</I>
+We can always revert it an earlier version if you'd prefer. Ditto for
+eog if that's also preferred.
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+Cauldron users manually downgrading is fine IMO.
+
+Col
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+--
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and JA Magall&#243;n at 14/01/13 23:28 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hi...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As the mass rebuild seems almost done, I have supposed that everything in
+</I>&gt;<i> my box not tagged ad mga3 are leftovers from previous installs, as I had
+</I>&gt;<i> not reinstalled my box since mga1. I checked this:
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+</I>&gt;<i> rpm -qa --nosignature --qf &quot;%{n}-%{v}-%{r}\n&quot; | grep mga1 | sort
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (I have another list for mga2 ;) )
+</I>
+Remember and do &quot;urpmq --not-available&quot; to get the list of installed,
+but no longer provided, packages that are left on your machine.
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+I rpm -e them fairly regularly just to keep things clean.
+
+Col
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+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+ <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B>
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+<PRE>On Tuesday 15. January 2013 11.08, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+&gt;<i> Remember and do &quot;urpmq --not-available&quot; to get the list of installed,
+</I>&gt;<i> but no longer provided, packages that are left on your machine.
+</I>
+I think that procedure migth have some problems with an urpmi-proxy setup, or something else is not working. At the moment I don't trust it on my cauldron system.
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Johnny A. Solbu at 15/01/13 10:32 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Tuesday 15. January 2013 11.08, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Remember and do &quot;urpmq --not-available&quot; to get the list of installed,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but no longer provided, packages that are left on your machine.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think that procedure migth have some problems with an urpmi-proxy setup, or something else is not working. At the moment I don't trust it on my cauldron system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ urpmq --not-available|wc -l
+</I>&gt;<i> 2734
+</I>&gt;<i> $ rpm -qa|wc -l
+</I>&gt;<i> 2905
+</I>
+Sounds like one of your media couldn't be updated or something. Not
+directly related to urpmi-proxy per-se but it could certainly confuse
+the issue :)
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+<PRE>On Mon, 14 Jan 2013, nicolas vigier wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, 12 Jan 2013, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 'Twas brillig, and nicolas vigier at 12/01/13 15:45 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On Sat, 12 Jan 2013, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; It seems the rpmlint checks I added to detect (and prevent upload of)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; files in /var/run and in /etc/udev/rules.d etc. are not working.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; Can someone see if I've done something wrong?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; The file distribution.error.list from rpmlint-mageia-policy is not used
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; by the buildsystem to reject uploads. Instead it is using a list of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; rpmlint errors defined in youri configuration. I added them now :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Maybe we could change it to use distribution.error.list file instead.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Awesome, thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Will this affect mga2 builds too? It shouldn't there so hopefully there
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is no conflict :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmm, actually it probably applies to Mageia 2 builds too. I will try to
+</I>&gt;<i> change this.
+</I>
+This should now be fixed.
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+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2963&amp;r2=2967">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2963&amp;r2=2967</A>
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/System_Service_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/System_Service_policy</A> as a guide.
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+I should be able to finish them off some night this week.
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+cups:/var/run/cups/certs
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+kolab-saslauthd:/var/run/saslauthd
+kolab-server:/var/run/kolabd
+leafnode:/var/lock/news
+openldap-servers:/var/run/ldap
+pacemaker:/var/run/crm
+php-fpm:/var/run/php-fpm
+prelude-manager:/var/run/prelude-manager
+samba-common:/var/run/samba
+smtp-gated:/run/smtp-gated
+stompserver:/var/run/stompserver
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+system-config-printer-udev:/var/run/udev-configure-printer/usb-uris
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+xen:/run/xend &lt;---- Should be OK to ignore (AL13N checked)
+xen:/run/xend/boot &lt;---- Should be OK to ignore (AL13N checked)
+xen:/run/xenstored &lt;---- Should be OK to ignore (AL13N checked)
+zabbix-agent:/var/run/zabbix
+zabbix:/var/run/zabbix
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+Also some of the udev things (just need the rules moving from
+/etc/udev/rules.d to /usr/lib/udev/rules.d (aka %_udevrulesdir)):
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+alsa-tools-firmware:/etc/udev/rules.d/90-alsa-tools-firmware.rules
+dkms-dahdi:/etc/udev/rules.d/40-dahdi.rules
+dkms-dahdi:/etc/udev/rules.d/40-xpp.rules
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+em8300:/etc/udev/rules.d/em8300.rules
+gammu:/etc/udev/rules.d/69-gammu-acl.rules
+gnome-bluetooth:/etc/udev/rules.d/61-gnome-bluetooth-rfkill.rules
+gpsd:/etc/udev/rules.d/99-gpsd.rules
+hplip-model-data:/etc/udev/rules.d/40-hplip.rules
+hplip-model-data:/etc/udev/rules.d/56-hpmud_add_printer.rules
+hplip-model-data:/etc/udev/rules.d/56-hpmud_support.rules
+hplip-model-data:/etc/udev/rules.d/86-hpmud_plugin.rules
+hso-rezero:/etc/udev/rules.d/49_hso-udev.rules
+iguanair:/etc/udev/rules.d/iguanaIR.rules
+indilib:/etc/udev/rules.d/99-gpusb.rules
+kino:/etc/udev/rules.d/kino.rules
+libcrystalhd-common:/etc/udev/rules.d/65-crystalhd.rules
+libdjconsole:/etc/udev/rules.d/45-hpdjconsole.rules
+libifp:/etc/udev/rules.d/10-libifp.rules
+libnjb:/etc/udev/rules.d/60-libnjb.rules
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and nicolas vigier at 15/01/13 10:57 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Awesome, thanks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Will this affect mga2 builds too? It shouldn't there so hopefully there
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> is no conflict :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hmm, actually it probably applies to Mageia 2 builds too. I will try to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> change this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This should now be fixed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2963&amp;r2=2967">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2963&amp;r2=2967</A>
+</I>
+Lovely. Thank you :)
+
+Col
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+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>Hi,
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+This is the second time I've seen this failure now:
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++ autoreconf
+parallel-tests: error: required file 'build-aux/test-driver' not found
+parallel-tests: 'automake --add-missing' can install 'test-driver'
+autoreconf: automake failed with exit status: 1
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+
+This was with systemd
+(<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130115103253.colin.valstar.9981/log/systemd-195-8.mga3/build.0.20130115103305.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130115103253.colin.valstar.9981/log/systemd-195-8.mga3/build.0.20130115103305.log</A>),
+but I also saw it with network manager yesterday.
+
+I found it was easily fixed by changing &quot;autoreconf&quot; to &quot;autoreconf
+--force --install --verbose&quot; (the --verbose isn't needed but likely
+useful for the log in the event of a failure)
+
+HTHs if you have similar issues.
+
+Col
+
+--
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>Le lundi 14 janvier 2013 00:48:01 Juan Luis Baptiste a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My mistake too, when Alfonso told me he was going to use the mdv's spec I
+</I>&gt;<i> didn't explicitly told him to merge back any change on mga spec (maybe for
+</I>&gt;<i> me this was something implicit to be done but now I see it isn't for
+</I>&gt;<i> everybody), and just checked his work on the update which was ok.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll be more careful in the future when reviewing my apprentice's work, I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> sorry for the trouble caused by me and Alfonso.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+What I do usually with my apprentices is not review only the SPEC, but also
+the diffs from the last commit before they touched it. It allows to see that
+can of huge changes :)
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+<PRE>Colin Guthrie skrev 15.1.2013 12:58:
+&gt;<i> Today's status update. Feel free to fix anything you fancy. Use
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/System_Service_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/System_Service_policy</A> as a guide.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I should be able to finish them off some night this week.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+&gt;<i> uuidd:/var/run/uuidd
+</I>
+I'll fix atleast this...
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+&gt;<i> Also some of the udev things (just need the rules moving from
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/udev/rules.d to /usr/lib/udev/rules.d (aka %_udevrulesdir)):
+</I>
+&gt;<i> drbd-utils:/etc/udev/rules.d/65-drbd.rules
+</I>
+&gt;<i> util-linux:/etc/udev/rules.d/60-raw.rules
+</I>&gt;<i> virtualbox:/etc/udev/rules.d/virtualbox.rules
+</I>&gt;<i> virtualbox-guest-additions:/etc/udev/rules.d/vbox-additions.rules
+</I>
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+and theese...
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+--
+Thomas
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+<PRE>On Tuesday 15. January 2013 11.43, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+&gt;<i> Sounds like one of your media couldn't be updated or something. Not
+</I>&gt;<i> directly related to urpmi-proxy per-se but it could certainly confuse
+</I>&gt;<i> the issue :)
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+Just for good measure, I ran &#171;urpmi.upfdate -a&#187; just now, and the count didnt change.
+No media where unable to update, and I only have one repo configured. (<A HREF="http://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors">http://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors</A>)
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+<PRE>On Mon, 14 Jan 2013, Damien Lallement wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
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+</I>&gt;<i> Please push calibre, it's a bug fix release and it adds support for Kobo
+</I>&gt;<i> Arc and Polaroid Android tablet.
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+&gt;<i> Please push xterm 288. It's a bug fix release.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.spinics.net/lists/xorg/msg54908.html">http://www.spinics.net/lists/xorg/msg54908.html</A>
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+<PRE>On Mon, 14 Jan 2013, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou wrote:
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+<PRE>On Mon, 14 Jan 2013, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Please push sir, which I updated to version 2.5.1.
+</I>&gt;<i> I has some bug fixes and a few new features that we want and that are not
+</I>&gt;<i> too risky to put in for Mageia 3 (since nothing depends on sir).
+</I>&gt;<i> I tested the install and usability.
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+Are features still accepted for Mageia 3? I have these three:
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+<A HREF="http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan">http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan</A>
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+I know there is a policy for features, but I am asking, can I request features now or it's too late?
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+<PRE>Mustafaa Al-Hamdaani skrev 15.1.2013 14:35:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> Are features still accepted for Mageia 3? I have these three:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) Enable vertical two finger scrolling by default, simple but important.
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) Desktop greeter (like kaptan of pardus or its fork for Chakra, kapudan):
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan">http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3) catalyst-legacy for AMD cards 4xxx and before.
+</I>
+This one depends on AMD.
+They have not released any legacy driver since 12.6 last summer,
+and that is not supporting x11-server 1.13 we use.
+
+&gt;<i> I know there is a policy for features, but I am asking, can I request
+</I>&gt;<i> features now or it's too late?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mustafa Muhammad Hadi
+</I>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Mustafaa Al-Hamdaani at 15/01/13 12:35 did gyre and
+gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> Are features still accepted for Mageia 3?
+</I>
+It's too late for major features.
+
+&gt;<i> I have these three:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) Enable vertical two finger scrolling by default, simple but important.
+</I>
+This is possible but has to be configured. By default we enable
+side-swipe scrolling. Unlike on Macs where two finger scrolling is
+default, a lot of PC laptops (mine included) have graphics on their
+touchpad indicating the sides can be used for scrolling. Enabling two
+finger by default would confuse users where side scrolling has both
+graphics and used to work in the past.
+
+&gt;<i> 2) Desktop greeter (like kaptan of pardus or its fork for Chakra, kapudan):
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan">http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan</A>
+</I>
+This would be up to the KDE team to decide, but I suspect it's too late.
+
+&gt;<i> 3) catalyst-legacy for AMD cards 4xxx and before.
+</I>
+Not sure about this one.
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>Le 15/01/2013 13:35, Mustafaa Al-Hamdaani a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> Are features still accepted for Mageia 3? I have these three:
+</I>
+List of features has been closed some time ago and we are in version
+freeze and beta release. Please next time try to propose it in the
+beginning of the release cycle :)
+
+&gt;<i> 1) Enable vertical two finger scrolling by default, simple but important.
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) Desktop greeter (like kaptan of pardus or its fork for Chakra, kapudan):
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan">http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3) catalyst-legacy for AMD cards 4xxx and before.
+</I>&gt;<i> I know there is a policy for features, but I am asking, can I request
+</I>&gt;<i> features now or it's too late?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mustafa Muhammad Hadi
+</I>
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A>
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please push jgraphx this is needed by scilab
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> D.
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
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+</I>&gt;<i> please push transfugdrake, this is the version in svn and it builds.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> D.
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+&gt;<i> hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> please push jline, this is a new version that builds witn maven 3
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> D.
+</I>
+ping
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:17 AM, D.Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> please push jline, this is a new version that builds witn maven 3
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> D.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ping
+</I>
+previous version do not compile so we need this one
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+ <B>Olav Vitters</B>
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+--
+Regards,
+Olav
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+ <B>Funda Wang</B>
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+Could scribus 1.4.2 be pushed? It features a hunspell based spellchecker, which obsoletes aspell checker. Thus, we could finally throw all aspell related pacakges in mga3, as planed. \o/
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+<PRE>On 01/15/2013 03:42 PM, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+&gt;<i> Mustafaa Al-Hamdaani skrev 15.1.2013 14:35:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Are features still accepted for Mageia 3? I have these three:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1) Enable vertical two finger scrolling by default, simple but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> important.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2) Desktop greeter (like kaptan of pardus or its fork for Chakra,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> kapudan):
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan">http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3) catalyst-legacy for AMD cards 4xxx and before.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This one depends on AMD.
+</I>&gt;<i> They have not released any legacy driver since 12.6 last summer,
+</I>&gt;<i> and that is not supporting x11-server 1.13 we use.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I know, I just hoped we can ship x11-server 1.12 and 1.13 and only one
+of them is installed, the power consumption with the open source drivers
+is just insane, especially for a laptop (and the quality too).
+&gt;&gt;<i> I know there is a policy for features, but I am asking, can I request
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> features now or it's too late?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mustafa Muhammad Hadi
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>On 01/15/2013 03:46 PM, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Mustafaa Al-Hamdaani at 15/01/13 12:35 did gyre and
+</I>&gt;<i> gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Are features still accepted for Mageia 3?
+</I>&gt;<i> It's too late for major features.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have these three:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1) Enable vertical two finger scrolling by default, simple but important.
+</I>&gt;<i> This is possible but has to be configured. By default we enable
+</I>&gt;<i> side-swipe scrolling. Unlike on Macs where two finger scrolling is
+</I>&gt;<i> default, a lot of PC laptops (mine included) have graphics on their
+</I>&gt;<i> touchpad indicating the sides can be used for scrolling. Enabling two
+</I>&gt;<i> finger by default would confuse users where side scrolling has both
+</I>&gt;<i> graphics and used to work in the past.
+</I>
+But now it does not work (at least for me), after enabling it I just
+very much better, so I hoped it enabled by default to enhance the user
+experience.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> 2) Desktop greeter (like kaptan of pardus or its fork for Chakra, kapudan):
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan">http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> This would be up to the KDE team to decide, but I suspect it's too late.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3) catalyst-legacy for AMD cards 4xxx and before.
+</I>&gt;<i> Not sure about this one.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+ <B>Oliver Burger</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] [Freeze push] gis software stack">oliver.bgr at gmail.com
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+ <I>Tue Jan 15 16:15:46 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>Sorry for the trouble, but I didn't get to do it in time (and Anne told
+me on IRC, this would be possible).
+
+I updated the gis software stack, because parts of it were quite out of
+date.
+
+Please submit these packages in the following build order:
+
+geos (new minor version)
+gdal (rebuild)
+postgis (new version, 1.5 was really out of date)
+grass (rebuild)
+libspatialite (new package needed by new qgis)
+libspatialindex (new package needed by new qgis)
+qgis (somebody already updated it in svn but never built it successfully)
+mapserver (new version)
+
+They all built locally on an up to date cauldron, so it shouldn't make
+any problems. If it does, just contact me.
+
+Thx,
+
+Oliver
+
+--
+Oliver Burger aka obgr_seneca
+
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+<PRE>On 01/15/2013 03:48 PM, Anne Nicolas wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 15/01/2013 13:35, Mustafaa Al-Hamdaani a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Are features still accepted for Mageia 3? I have these three:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> List of features has been closed some time ago and we are in version
+</I>&gt;<i> freeze and beta release. Please next time try to propose it in the
+</I>&gt;<i> beginning of the release cycle :)
+</I>
+I will, thank you.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1) Enable vertical two finger scrolling by default, simple but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> important.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2) Desktop greeter (like kaptan of pardus or its fork for Chakra,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> kapudan):
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan">http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3) catalyst-legacy for AMD cards 4xxx and before.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I know there is a policy for features, but I am asking, can I request
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> features now or it's too late?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mustafa Muhammad Hadi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Awesome, thanks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Will this affect mga2 builds too? It shouldn't there so hopefully there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; is no conflict :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hmm, actually it probably applies to Mageia 2 builds too. I will try to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> change this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This should now be fixed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2963&amp;r2=2967">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2963&amp;r2=2967</A>
+</I>
+Isn't that commit showing we didn't rejected some packages which
+should have been due to missing rules?
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+<PRE>On Tue, 15 Jan 2013, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On 15 January 2013 11:57, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Awesome, thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Will this affect mga2 builds too? It shouldn't there so hopefully there
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; is no conflict :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hmm, actually it probably applies to Mageia 2 builds too. I will try to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; change this.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This should now be fixed.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2963&amp;r2=2967">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2963&amp;r2=2967</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Isn't that commit showing we didn't rejected some packages which
+</I>&gt;<i> should have been due to missing rules?
+</I>
+Yes, we didn't reject some packages which should have been. Until this
+commit :
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963</A>
+
+But after this one we were rejecting too much on Mageia 2. Now it should
+be ok on Cauldron and Mageia 2.
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+<PRE>On 8 January 2013 04:35, fwang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> + Revision: 341579
+</I>&gt;<i> - rebuild for ffmpeg 1.1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> + luigiwalser &lt;luigiwalser&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> - fix building with bundled ffmpeg
+</I>
+Not a big deal but here's a warning:
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+Playing foobar.mp4.
+libavformat version 54.59.106 (external)
+Mismatching header version 54.6.101
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%0A%09python-virtualenv-1.7.1.2-4.mga3&In-Reply-To=%3CCAONrEtZ5Y59FfgLAR1mzj8sTYiT_pyKnmLbWzgcnJ_rpRdcNDw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>On 13 January 2013 22:41, umeabot &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> umeabot &lt;umeabot&gt; 1.7.1.2-4.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 379674
+</I>&gt;<i> - Mass Rebuild - <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:Mageia3MassRebuild">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:Mageia3MassRebuild</A>
+</I>
+err, shouldn't we tweak /etc/urpmi/prefer.vendor.list for:
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+# urpmi xen
+In order to satisfy the 'pythonegg(setuptools)' dependency, one of the
+following packages is needed:
+ 1- python-virtualenv-1.7.1.2-4.mga3.noarch: Virtual Python
+Environment builder (to install)
+ 2- python-distribute-0.6.34-2.mga3.noarch: Python Distutils
+Enhancements (to install)
+ 3- python3-setuptools-0.6.28-2.mga3.noarch: Python Distutils
+Enhancements (to install)
+What is your choice? (1-3)
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+<PRE>On 15 January 2013 19:00, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Will this affect mga2 builds too? It shouldn't there so hopefully there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; is no conflict :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hmm, actually it probably applies to Mageia 2 builds too. I will try to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; change this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; This should now be fixed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2963&amp;r2=2967">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2963&amp;r2=2967</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Isn't that commit showing we didn't rejected some packages which
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> should have been due to missing rules?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, we didn't reject some packages which should have been. Until this
+</I>&gt;<i> commit :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But after this one we were rejecting too much on Mageia 2. Now it should
+</I>&gt;<i> be ok on Cauldron and Mageia 2.
+</I>
+Well no. No as in it may be possible that some updates upload will
+break due to some error now being detected and rejected.
+Could we script a pass on all packages with that rpmlint config to
+catch any such packages and fix them?
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Help%20needed%3A%20rpmlint%20checks%20not%20working&In-Reply-To=%3C50F59CB2.6070800%40colin.guthr.ie%3E"
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and nicolas vigier at 15/01/13 18:00 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, 15 Jan 2013, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This should now be fixed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2963&amp;r2=2967">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2963&amp;r2=2967</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Isn't that commit showing we didn't rejected some packages which
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> should have been due to missing rules?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, we didn't reject some packages which should have been. Until this
+</I>&gt;<i> commit :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But after this one we were rejecting too much on Mageia 2. Now it should
+</I>&gt;<i> be ok on Cauldron and Mageia 2.
+</I>
+
+For packages affected by the rules I added, I use the following commands
+to get the affected packages (now mercifully small!):
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+urpmf &quot;^(/var)?/(run|lock)/&quot; | sort -u &gt;run-lock.txt
+urpmf &quot;^/etc/udev/rules.d/&quot; | sort -u &gt;udev.txt
+urpmf &quot;^/etc/tmpfiles.d/&quot; | sort -u &gt;tmpfiles.txt
+urpmf &quot;^/etc/systemd/system/&quot; | sort -u &gt;units.txt
+
+The first two show 21 (ignoring xen) and 19 respectively.
+
+The last two commands both show no affected packages \o/
+
+So not too much to fix up :)
+
+Col
+
+--
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+<PRE>On 14 January 2013 21:18, tmb &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> tmb &lt;tmb&gt; 1.0.1-6.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 388067
+</I>&gt;<i> - work around broken kernel headers (if_bridge.h not selfcontainted) (P4, upstream)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> + colin &lt;colin&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> - Use kernel-source instead. Headers seems not enough.
+</I>&gt;<i> - Add kernel-headers to build requires
+</I>&gt;<i> - Switch to tmpfiles for [/var]/run dirs
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> + umeabot &lt;umeabot&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> - Mass Rebuild - <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:Mageia3MassRebuild">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:Mageia3MassRebuild</A>
+</I>
+Preparing... #####################################
+ 17/23: libvirt-utils ######################################
+The unit files have no [Install] section. They are not meant to be
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+<PRE>On 15 January 2013 19:15, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2963&amp;r2=2967">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2963&amp;r2=2967</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Isn't that commit showing we didn't rejected some packages which
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> should have been due to missing rules?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, we didn't reject some packages which should have been. Until this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> commit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But after this one we were rejecting too much on Mageia 2. Now it should
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be ok on Cauldron and Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For packages affected by the rules I added, I use the following commands
+</I>&gt;<i> to get the affected packages (now mercifully small!):
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmf &quot;^(/var)?/(run|lock)/&quot; | sort -u &gt;run-lock.txt
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmf &quot;^/etc/udev/rules.d/&quot; | sort -u &gt;udev.txt
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmf &quot;^/etc/tmpfiles.d/&quot; | sort -u &gt;tmpfiles.txt
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmf &quot;^/etc/systemd/system/&quot; | sort -u &gt;units.txt
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The first two show 21 (ignoring xen) and 19 respectively.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The last two commands both show no affected packages \o/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So not too much to fix up :)
+</I>
+err, just look at all the rules that were added (copied from mga2)...
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 15/01/13 18:09 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 15 January 2013 19:00, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Will this affect mga2 builds too? It shouldn't there so hopefully there
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> is no conflict :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hmm, actually it probably applies to Mageia 2 builds too. I will try to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> change this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This should now be fixed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2963&amp;r2=2967">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2963&amp;r2=2967</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Isn't that commit showing we didn't rejected some packages which
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> should have been due to missing rules?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, we didn't reject some packages which should have been. Until this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> commit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But after this one we were rejecting too much on Mageia 2. Now it should
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be ok on Cauldron and Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well no. No as in it may be possible that some updates upload will
+</I>&gt;<i> break due to some error now being detected and rejected.
+</I>&gt;<i> Could we script a pass on all packages with that rpmlint config to
+</I>&gt;<i> catch any such packages and fix them?
+</I>
+Well the first commit certainly applied to updates (and I queried as
+much), but I think the second commit means it only applies to cauldron,
+not any updates to mga2 etc.
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+<PRE>On 15 January 2013 19:17, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Will this affect mga2 builds too? It shouldn't there so hopefully there
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> is no conflict :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hmm, actually it probably applies to Mageia 2 builds too. I will try to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> change this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This should now be fixed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2963&amp;r2=2967">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2963&amp;r2=2967</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Isn't that commit showing we didn't rejected some packages which
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> should have been due to missing rules?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, we didn't reject some packages which should have been. Until this
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> commit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But after this one we were rejecting too much on Mageia 2. Now it should
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be ok on Cauldron and Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well no. No as in it may be possible that some updates upload will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> break due to some error now being detected and rejected.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Could we script a pass on all packages with that rpmlint config to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> catch any such packages and fix them?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well the first commit certainly applied to updates (and I queried as
+</I>&gt;<i> much), but I think the second commit means it only applies to cauldron,
+</I>&gt;<i> not any updates to mga2 etc.
+</I>
+My point is we just added to _CAULDRON_ == mga3 a lot of rules that were missed,
+just after mass rebuild, and I fear that when we'll try to issue
+updates to _mga3_,
+we may see some being rejected, this is why I ask we check current cauldron
+with upload server rpmlint config...
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+&gt;<i> alien &lt;alien&gt; 4.2.1-2.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 361563
+</I>&gt;<i> - Fix udev migration
+</I>&gt;<i> - fix /run being tmpfs
+</I>
+Just for the fun, I rebooted with kernel-server, see virt-manager failed,
+systemctl says service succeeded but exited and indeed:
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+# /usr/sbin/xend start
+xc: error: Could not obtain handle on privileged command interface (2
+= No such file or directory): Internal error
+Traceback (most recent call last):
+ File &quot;/usr/sbin/xend&quot;, line 36, in &lt;module&gt;
+ from xen.xend.server import SrvDaemon
+ File &quot;/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/xen/xend/server/SrvDaemon.py&quot;,
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+ import relocate
+ File &quot;/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/xen/xend/server/relocate.py&quot;,
+line 28, in &lt;module&gt;
+ from xen.xend import XendDomain
+ File &quot;/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/xen/xend/XendDomain.py&quot;,
+line 36, in &lt;module&gt;
+ from xen.xend import XendOptions, XendCheckpoint, XendDomainInfo
+ File &quot;/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/xen/xend/XendCheckpoint.py&quot;,
+line 20, in &lt;module&gt;
+ from xen.xend import balloon, sxp, image
+ File &quot;/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/xen/xend/image.py&quot;, line
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+<PRE>On Tuesday 15 Jan 2013 00:28:40 JA Magall&#243;n wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As the mass rebuild seems almost done, I have supposed that
+</I>everything in
+&gt;<i> my box not tagged ad mga3 are leftovers from previous installs, as I
+</I>had
+&gt;<i> not reinstalled my box since mga1. I checked this:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Just for comparison here is a list from mine
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+I had a long session of removing the --not availables last week so it is
+faily clean despite having been updated since mga1.
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+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at localhost</A> brian]# rpm -qa --nosignature --qf &quot;%{n}-%{v}-%{r}\n&quot;
+|<i> grep mga1 | sort
+</I>dvgrab-3.5-4.mga1
+giftrans-1.12.2-23.mga1
+jline-0.9.94-4.mga1
+kmozillahelper-0.6.3-1.mga1
+lib64atlas3-x86_64-3.8.3-7.mga1
+lib64opencore-amr0-0.1.2-3.mga1
+mpgtx-1.3.1-7.mga1
+notification-daemon-engine-nodoka-0.1.0-3.mga1
+transfugdrake-1.9.4-1.mga1
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at localhost</A> brian]# rpm -qa --nosignature --qf &quot;%{n}-%{v}-%{r}\n&quot;
+|<i> grep mga2 | sort
+</I>aoss-1.0.25-1.mga2
+dcraw-9.12-1.mga2
+hsqldb-1.8.1.3-5.mga2
+jasper-1.900.1-13.mga2
+lcms-1.19-6.mga2
+lib64a52dec0-0.7.4-17.mga2
+lib64alsa-oss0-1.0.25-1.mga2
+lib64gsl0-1.15-1.mga2
+lib64jasper1-1.900.1-13.mga2
+lib64lcms1-1.19-6.mga2
+lib64nut0-0.0.675-2.mga2
+lib64nvtvsimple0-0.4.7-20.mga2
+lib64vcd0-0.7.24-2.mga2
+lib64wpg0.2_2-0.2.1-2.mga2
+lib64xavs1-0.1.55-2.mga2
+pdf2svg-0.2.1-1.mga2
+postgresql-jdbc-9.0.801-1.mga2
+vcdimager-0.7.24-2.mga2
+x11-driver-input-1.0.0-17.mga2
+xli-20061110-7.mga2
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at localhost</A> brian]# urpme --auto-orphans
+No orphans to remove
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at localhost</A> brian]# urpmq --not-available
+projectlibre-1.5.1-1.noarch
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at localhost</A> brian]#
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+Projectlibre excepted (which I have installed locally to try it out), theres
+not too many.
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 15 January 2013 19:17, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Will this affect mga2 builds too? It shouldn't there so hopefully there
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> is no conflict :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hmm, actually it probably applies to Mageia 2 builds too. I will try to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> change this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This should now be fixed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2963&amp;r2=2967">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2963&amp;r2=2967</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Isn't that commit showing we didn't rejected some packages which
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> should have been due to missing rules?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, we didn't reject some packages which should have been. Until this
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> commit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But after this one we were rejecting too much on Mageia 2. Now it should
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be ok on Cauldron and Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Well no. No as in it may be possible that some updates upload will
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> break due to some error now being detected and rejected.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Could we script a pass on all packages with that rpmlint config to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> catch any such packages and fix them?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well the first commit certainly applied to updates (and I queried as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> much), but I think the second commit means it only applies to cauldron,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not any updates to mga2 etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My point is we just added to _CAULDRON_ == mga3 a lot of rules that were missed,
+</I>&gt;<i> just after mass rebuild, and I fear that when we'll try to issue
+</I>&gt;<i> updates to _mga3_,
+</I>&gt;<i> we may see some being rejected, this is why I ask we check current cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> with upload server rpmlint config...
+</I>
+The options used to apply to all versions
+They were copied to cauldron specific rules and those ones removed
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+<PRE>Juan Luis Baptiste wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
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+</I>&gt;<i> My mistake too, when Alfonso told me he was going to use the mdv's spec I
+</I>&gt;<i> didn't explicitly told him to merge back any change on mga spec (maybe for
+</I>&gt;<i> me this was something implicit to be done but now I see it isn't for
+</I>&gt;<i> everybody), and just checked his work on the update which was ok.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll be more careful in the future when reviewing my apprentice's work, I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> sorry for the trouble caused by me and Alfonso.
+</I>
+Just a heads up for the future, mgarepo sync had also not been run, so all of the old patches were
+still in SVN. Of course ideally, the patches that were just renamed rediffs would have been svn
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013, Damien Lallement wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please push xterm 288. It's a bug fix release.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.spinics.net/lists/xorg/msg54908.html">http://www.spinics.net/lists/xorg/msg54908.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It doesn't look like a bugfix release.
+</I>
+According to the release announcement on freecode, it is.
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+<A HREF="http://freecode.com/projects/xterm/releases/351244">http://freecode.com/projects/xterm/releases/351244</A>
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+ <B>David Walser</B>
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+&gt;<i> &gt; On Mon, 14 Jan 2013, Damien Lallement wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Please push xterm 288. It's a bug fix release.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.spinics.net/lists/xorg/msg54908.html">http://www.spinics.net/lists/xorg/msg54908.html</A>
+</I>
+Tested locally on Cauldron, can confirm it works fine.
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+ <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B>
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+<PRE>On 15.01.2013 15:06, Funda Wang wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could scribus 1.4.2 be pushed? It features a hunspell based spellchecker, which obsoletes aspell checker. Thus, we could finally throw all aspell related pacakges in mga3, as planed. \o/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards.
+</I>+1 for the push
+
+But, I would wait with removing Aspell from distro until Mageia 4.
+I should double check all packages, dependencies, ask for removal of
+perl Aspell related software and then patch hunspell-* to obsolete Aspell.
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+please push matio and jgraphx in cauldron, this is scilab deps, (
+needed by nothing but scilab ), w/o them we can't build scilab.
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+&gt;<i> My point is we just added to _CAULDRON_ == mga3 a lot of rules that were missed,
+</I>&gt;<i> just after mass rebuild, and I fear that when we'll try to issue
+</I>&gt;<i> updates to _mga3_,
+</I>&gt;<i> we may see some being rejected, this is why I ask we check current cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> with upload server rpmlint config...
+</I>
+Right, we need to schedule a new mass rebuild, to check packages against
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+<PRE>nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; writes:
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+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; The file distribution.error.list from rpmlint-mageia-policy is not used
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; by the buildsystem to reject uploads. Instead it is using a list of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; rpmlint errors defined in youri configuration. I added them now :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Maybe we could change it to use distribution.error.list file instead.
+</I>
+[...]
+
+&gt;<i> This should now be fixed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2963&amp;r2=2967">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2963&amp;r2=2967</A>
+</I>
+This is still an hardcoded list that does not reflect the default Mageia
+policy from rpmlint-mageia-policy, and this is quite a maintenance burden.
+Why don't we use rules from these packages directly?
+
+If needed, we could maybe have setup per-distro extraction of rpmlint
+policy on upload of the rpmlint-mageia-policy package.
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+--
+Olivier Blin - blino
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+ <B>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: texstudio 2.5.2">pierre-malo.denielou at rhul.ac.uk
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+Upstream says that it is a bug fix release.
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+ <B>You-Cheng Hsieh</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5BNEED%20HELP%5D%20icewm%20titlebar%20missing%20on%20certain%20themes&In-Reply-To=%3CCAOkW%3Dmy0dt-6XgXuACMoNLO7WgfMkdKPm%2BzF0KnsPSLcK4w%2BBA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+ <I>Wed Jan 16 03:57:51 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>Hello,
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+We have a problem on icewm that the titlebar will be missing on some
+themes, including default theme:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8705">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8705</A>
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+Note that arch user have same problem:
+<A HREF="https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=155162">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=155162</A>
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+As icewm is installed along with all Live-CD/DVDs as backup WM, we
+might need to find a solution for it:
+- figure out what's wrong in the icewm code and fix it. or
+- change to another default theme that won't be affected. or
+- use other light wm (e.g. openbox) for our Live-CD/DVDs
+
+Any suggestion is welcomed,
+
+Thanks,
+
+
+You-Cheng Hsieh
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+ <B>David Walser</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] [NEED HELP] icewm titlebar missing on certain themes">luigiwalser at yahoo.com
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+ <I>Wed Jan 16 05:13:06 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>You-Cheng Hsieh wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have a problem on icewm that the titlebar will be missing on some
+</I>&gt;<i> themes, including default theme:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8705">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8705</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Note that arch user have same problem:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=155162">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=155162</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As icewm is installed along with all Live-CD/DVDs as backup WM, we
+</I>&gt;<i> might need to find a solution for it:
+</I>&gt;<i> - figure out what's wrong in the icewm code and fix it. or
+</I>&gt;<i> - change to another default theme that won't be affected. or
+</I>&gt;<i> - use other light wm (e.g. openbox) for our Live-CD/DVDs
+</I>
+We shouldn't switch to another light wm when we can just change the theme, but it would be nice if
+we could find the cause for this, as nothing has changed in the icewm or default theme packages
+since Mageia 2, which didn't have this issue, so the source of the issue is likely elsewhere, and
+who knows what else it could affect at some point. What a strange bug :O
+
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+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%0A%09jboss-web-native-2.0.10-3.mga3&In-Reply-To=%3C50F66BE9.30109%40eesti.ee%3E"
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+<PRE>16.01.2013 10:30, dmorgan kirjutas:
+&gt;<i> Name : jboss-web-native Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version : 2.0.10 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release : 3.mga3 Build Date: Wed Jan 16 09:30:21 2013
+</I>&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: ecosse.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> Group : Development/Java Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Size : 4987642 License: LGPLv2+ and ASL 2.0
+</I>&gt;<i> Signature : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager : dmorgan &lt;dmorgan&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL : <A HREF="http://www.jboss.org/">http://www.jboss.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary : JBoss Web Native
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> This package contains support for Apache Portable Runtime (APR) in JBoss AS.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> dmorgan &lt;dmorgan&gt; 2.0.10-3.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 388612
+</I>&gt;<i> - imported package jboss-web-native
+</I>I don't want to be rude but you import a lot of java packages. Are you
+sure that all the already imported packages are fixed? I think you
+should first fix those and then import more :/ (No hard feelings ;P)
+
+--
+Sander
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Pascal Terjan at 15/01/13 18:34 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Thierry Vignaud
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Well no. No as in it may be possible that some updates upload will
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> break due to some error now being detected and rejected.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Could we script a pass on all packages with that rpmlint config to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> catch any such packages and fix them?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Well the first commit certainly applied to updates (and I queried as
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> much), but I think the second commit means it only applies to cauldron,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> not any updates to mga2 etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My point is we just added to _CAULDRON_ == mga3 a lot of rules that were missed,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> just after mass rebuild, and I fear that when we'll try to issue
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> updates to _mga3_,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we may see some being rejected, this is why I ask we check current cauldron
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with upload server rpmlint config...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The options used to apply to all versions
+</I>&gt;<i> They were copied to cauldron specific rules and those ones removed
+</I>&gt;<i> from the default rules
+</I>
+That's what I took from it too. Those copied rules used to apply to
+everything, but because of the extra rules I wanted for cauldron only,
+all the other rules were copied to a cauldron specific list. It doesn't
+mean they are all new. At least that was my assumption of it all - no
+idea of the implementation!
+
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+Col
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+--
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Olivier Blin at 15/01/13 22:49 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The file distribution.error.list from rpmlint-mageia-policy is not used
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> by the buildsystem to reject uploads. Instead it is using a list of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rpmlint errors defined in youri configuration. I added them now :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2928&amp;r2=2963</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe we could change it to use distribution.error.list file instead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This should now be fixed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2963&amp;r2=2967">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/youri/submit-upload.conf?r1=2963&amp;r2=2967</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is still an hardcoded list that does not reflect the default Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> policy from rpmlint-mageia-policy, and this is quite a maintenance burden.
+</I>&gt;<i> Why don't we use rules from these packages directly?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If needed, we could maybe have setup per-distro extraction of rpmlint
+</I>&gt;<i> policy on upload of the rpmlint-mageia-policy package.
+</I>
+That certainly sounds like a nice idea and a good way to keep things
+simple for packagers.
+
+Col
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+--
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
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+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 15/01/13 18:24 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 13 January 2013 00:58, alien &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> alien &lt;alien&gt; 4.2.1-2.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 361563
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Fix udev migration
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - fix /run being tmpfs
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just for the fun, I rebooted with kernel-server, see virt-manager failed,
+</I>&gt;<i> systemctl says service succeeded but exited and indeed:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> # /usr/sbin/xend start
+</I>&gt;<i> xc: error: Could not obtain handle on privileged command interface (2
+</I>&gt;<i> = No such file or directory): Internal error
+</I>&gt;<i> Traceback (most recent call last):
+</I>&gt;<i> File &quot;/usr/sbin/xend&quot;, line 36, in &lt;module&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> from xen.xend.server import SrvDaemon
+</I>&gt;<i> File &quot;/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/xen/xend/server/SrvDaemon.py&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> line 26, in &lt;module&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> import relocate
+</I>&gt;<i> File &quot;/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/xen/xend/server/relocate.py&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> line 28, in &lt;module&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> from xen.xend import XendDomain
+</I>&gt;<i> File &quot;/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/xen/xend/XendDomain.py&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> line 36, in &lt;module&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> from xen.xend import XendOptions, XendCheckpoint, XendDomainInfo
+</I>&gt;<i> File &quot;/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/xen/xend/XendCheckpoint.py&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> line 20, in &lt;module&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> from xen.xend import balloon, sxp, image
+</I>&gt;<i> File &quot;/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/xen/xend/image.py&quot;, line
+</I>&gt;<i> 46, in &lt;module&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> xc = xen.lowlevel.xc.xc()
+</I>&gt;<i> xen.lowlevel.xc.Error: (1, 'Internal error', 'xc_interface_open
+</I>&gt;<i> failed: No such file or directory')
+</I>
+
+Cool, so I had this still on my list to check. Seems the &quot;fix&quot; (which
+was just ghosting the files) wasn't correct and as I mentioned in a
+previous mail about tmpfiles stuff, it would be wise to check the Xen
+package to see what was done about adding tmpfiles support.
+
+AL13n reckoned that fedora just ghosted the files, but on closer
+inspection they do also add tmpfiles support...
+
+<A HREF="http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/xen.git/tree/tmpfiles.d.xen.conf">http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/xen.git/tree/tmpfiles.d.xen.conf</A>
+
+I'll fix it up.
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+ <B>D.Morgan</B>
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+<PRE>Hi,
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+please push xmlrpc this is a merge between xmlrpc3 rpm and xmlrpc ( we
+don't need version 2 anymore so no need to have 2 rpms )
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+Regards,
+D.
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+ <B>D.Morgan</B>
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+<PRE>On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:50 PM, D.Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> please push matio and jgraphx in cauldron, this is scilab deps, (
+</I>&gt;<i> needed by nothing but scilab ), w/o them we can't build scilab.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> D.
+</I>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 16/01/13 09:53 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Cool, so I had this still on my list to check. Seems the &quot;fix&quot; (which
+</I>&gt;<i> was just ghosting the files) wasn't correct and as I mentioned in a
+</I>&gt;<i> previous mail about tmpfiles stuff, it would be wise to check the Xen
+</I>&gt;<i> package to see what was done about adding tmpfiles support.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> AL13n reckoned that fedora just ghosted the files, but on closer
+</I>&gt;<i> inspection they do also add tmpfiles support...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/xen.git/tree/tmpfiles.d.xen.conf">http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/xen.git/tree/tmpfiles.d.xen.conf</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll fix it up.
+</I>
+Should be fixed by:
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=388627">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=388627</A>
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+(assuming that the error really was about that file :D)
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+Col
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+--
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+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 13/01/13 13:26 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and AL13N at 12/01/13 21:42 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Op zaterdag 12 januari 2013 22:24:35 schreef AL13N:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op zaterdag 12 januari 2013 16:43:09 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [..]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There are currently ~70 ish packages to fix. I'll fix them up, but help
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> is welcome :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Then there are the udev rules :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I will do all of these but as I've said already, people are more than
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> welcome to fix some up :D
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> i'll try and fix xen for both
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it seems for xen, it doesn't seem so standard. fedora ghosted those 3, so i
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> did that too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ghosting achieves very little in this case. Does xen automatically
+</I>&gt;<i> create those directories happily without the need for tmpfiles? If so
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd personally not package them at all (as it just continues to show up
+</I>&gt;<i> in the list generated by the urpmf command listed earlier as a false
+</I>&gt;<i> positive).
+</I>
+Seems fedora also added tmpfiles support as well as ghosting - I've now
+fixed that up in the xen package.
+
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=388627">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=388627</A>
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+I also dropped the ghosting. At least for now I don't see how it creates
+any significant advantage that is worth the overhead.
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+&gt;<i> So, question. Does xen actually work? There appears to be no tmpfiles in
+</I>&gt;<i> it and thus I don't see what creates those folders unless xen does it
+</I>&gt;<i> internally (i.e. like gdm does).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you confirm it's OK without tmpfiles and I'll manually filter it out
+</I>&gt;<i> of my urpmf command. If you also feel there is no real point in ghosting
+</I>&gt;<i> here specifically and not in any of the other packages, please do remove
+</I>&gt;<i> the ghosts as it'll save that manual filtering.
+</I>
+So this was apparently broken (as per TV's tests at least).
+
+As mentioned above, I've now added the tmpfiles snippets to create those
+folders. Fingers crossed that fixes it :)
+
+Cheers
+
+Col
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+--
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+<PRE>D.Morgan skrev 16.1.2013 11:59:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:50 PM, D.Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> please push matio and jgraphx in cauldron, this is scilab deps, (
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> needed by nothing but scilab ), w/o them we can't build scilab.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> D.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ping
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Done.
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+<PRE>And today's summary is even better :)
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+cyrus-sasl:/var/run/saslauthd &lt;-- I'll do this one - it's a bit tricky
+also involving bind mounts and such like for chrooted postfix setup :s
+freeswitch:/run/freeswitch
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+tomcat:/var/run/tomcat.pid
+uucp:/var/lock/uucp
+uuidd:/var/run/uuidd &lt;-- Thomas has said he'll fix.
+vtun:/var/lock/vtund
+zabbix-agent:/var/run/zabbix
+zabbix:/var/run/zabbix
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+udev rules are even more awesome with only one left! Thanks you kind
+soldier(s) who updated those!
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+util-linux:/etc/udev/rules.d/60-raw.rules &lt;-- Thomas said he would fix
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+Sweet!! Thanks everyone! KUTGW :)
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+Col
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+--
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
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+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+ <B>D.Morgan</B>
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+<PRE>On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> D.Morgan skrev 16.1.2013 11:59:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:50 PM, D.Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> please push matio and jgraphx in cauldron, this is scilab deps, (
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> needed by nothing but scilab ), w/o them we can't build scilab.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> D.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ping
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Done.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+sorry for matio, i added hdf5-devel as BR, please push it again
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+&gt;<i> David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On Mon, 14 Jan 2013, Damien Lallement wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; Please push xterm 288. It's a bug fix release.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.spinics.net/lists/xorg/msg54908.html">http://www.spinics.net/lists/xorg/msg54908.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Tested locally on Cauldron, can confirm it works fine.
+</I>
+Ok, submitted.
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> D.Morgan skrev 16.1.2013 11:59:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:50 PM, D.Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> please push matio and jgraphx in cauldron, this is scilab deps, (
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> needed by nothing but scilab ), w/o them we can't build scilab.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> D.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ping
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Done.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> sorry for matio, i added hdf5-devel as BR, please push it again
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+Pushed.
+
+--
+Thomas
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+ <B>Funda Wang</B>
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+<PRE>ping?
+
+------------------ Original ------------------
+From: &quot;Funda Wang&quot;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at fundawang.name</A>&gt;;
+Date: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 08:23 AM
+To: &quot;mageia-dev&quot;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;;
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+Subject: [Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ibus, ibus-anthy
+
+
+Hello,
+
+Could ibus and ibus-anthy be pushed into core/release? We target at 1.5.x for mga3, and we now have 1.4.9x beta versions.
+
+PS, you must remove corresponding packages from core/updates_testing before pushing them.
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+Thanks.
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+ <B>Sander Lepik</B>
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+<PRE>16.01.2013 15:31, Funda Wang kirjutas:
+&gt;<i> ping?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ------------------ Original ------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> From: &quot;Funda Wang&quot;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at fundawang.name</A>&gt;;
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 08:23 AM
+</I>&gt;<i> To: &quot;mageia-dev&quot;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: [Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ibus, ibus-anthy
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could ibus and ibus-anthy be pushed into core/release? We target at 1.5.x for mga3, and we now have 1.4.9x beta versions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS, you must remove corresponding packages from core/updates_testing before pushing them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks.
+</I>Should we think about some better system how to deal with freeze
+pushing? A lot of pinging but some requests get no response. And then
+people with proper privileges deal with some of the requests but not
+with all. Soon we have 3x ping and still no reply when some packages get
+submitted with first request.
+
+Wiki page to list requests? So submitters can have a better overview?
+
+--
+Sander
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+ <B>Sandro CAZZANIGA</B>
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+ <I>Wed Jan 16 15:23:47 CET 2013</I>
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+Considering bug #3990 (<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3990">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3990</A>),
+should we add avahi-python as require for gwibber package?
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+ <B>Frank Griffin</B>
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+ <I>Wed Jan 16 15:27:00 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>I seem to remember a bug report go by which had something to do with not
+offering package groups during Package Selection that aren't actually on
+the install media, and that Thierry reported it fixed. That may be
+related to what I'm seeing.
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+I just tried a fresh network install against a local copy of cauldron
+that was just synced, and when I choose &quot;Custom Desktop&quot; and get to
+Package Group Selection, the only groups shown under Workstation are
+Game Station, Internet Station, Console Tools, Multimedia Statio,
+Configuration, and Documentation.
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+Under Server, there is only Firewall/Router.
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+Under Graphical Environment, there is only LXDE Desktop and Other
+Graphical Desktops.
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+Any idea what's goin on ? I don't think the other categories got
+wrapped into these, because checking them all only gives me a total size
+of 4864 instead of the usual 8000-9000 value.
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+ <B>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Package Group Selection in Install borked ?">pierre-malo.denielou at rhul.ac.uk
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+<PRE>On 16/01/13 14:27, Frank Griffin wrote:
+&gt;<i> I seem to remember a bug report go by which had something to do with not
+</I>&gt;<i> offering package groups during Package Selection that aren't actually on
+</I>&gt;<i> the install media, and that Thierry reported it fixed. That may be
+</I>&gt;<i> related to what I'm seeing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just tried a fresh network install against a local copy of cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> that was just synced, and when I choose &quot;Custom Desktop&quot; and get to
+</I>&gt;<i> Package Group Selection, the only groups shown under Workstation are
+</I>&gt;<i> Game Station, Internet Station, Console Tools, Multimedia Statio,
+</I>&gt;<i> Configuration, and Documentation.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Under Server, there is only Firewall/Router.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Under Graphical Environment, there is only LXDE Desktop and Other
+</I>&gt;<i> Graphical Desktops.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any idea what's goin on ? I don't think the other categories got wrapped
+</I>&gt;<i> into these, because checking them all only gives me a total size of 4864
+</I>&gt;<i> instead of the usual 8000-9000 value.
+</I>
+It is probably linked to the RPM group change. Sorry.
+I can patch
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/rpmdrake/trunk/Rpmdrake/icon.pm?revision=6429&amp;view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/rpmdrake/trunk/Rpmdrake/icon.pm?revision=6429&amp;view=markup</A>
+if tv does not beat me to it.
+
+Best,
+--
+Malo
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Sander Lepik at 16/01/13 14:02 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 16.01.2013 15:31, Funda Wang kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ping?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ------------------ Original ------------------
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> From: &quot;Funda Wang&quot;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at fundawang.name</A>&gt;;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Date: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 08:23 AM
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To: &quot;mageia-dev&quot;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Subject: [Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ibus, ibus-anthy
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Could ibus and ibus-anthy be pushed into core/release? We target at 1.5.x for mga3, and we now have 1.4.9x beta versions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> PS, you must remove corresponding packages from core/updates_testing before pushing them.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i> Should we think about some better system how to deal with freeze
+</I>&gt;<i> pushing? A lot of pinging but some requests get no response. And then
+</I>&gt;<i> people with proper privileges deal with some of the requests but not
+</I>&gt;<i> with all. Soon we have 3x ping and still no reply when some packages get
+</I>&gt;<i> submitted with first request.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wiki page to list requests? So submitters can have a better overview?
+</I>
+Perhaps a some kind of system whereby mgarepo submit will actually allow
+you to enter a &quot;reason&quot; if freeze is involved and some kind of web UI to
+list outstanding requests and/or authorise them if you are an admin? Or
+even some cmdline &quot;mgarepo freezereqs&quot; to list and &quot;mgarepo freezepush $id&quot;?
+
+Could be a Feature for the mga4 cycle perhaps?
+
+Col
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 16/01/13 10:23 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> uuidd:/var/run/uuidd &lt;-- Thomas has said he'll fix.
+</I>&gt;<i> util-linux:/etc/udev/rules.d/60-raw.rules &lt;-- Thomas said he would fix
+</I>
+Actually, Funda fixed the udev rules location last night but the uuidd
+bit still caused the build to be rejected.
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+I've fixed that up now, so the udev list is now totally empty! Yay!
+
+Col
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+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
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+ <B>Frank Griffin</B>
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+<PRE>On 01/16/2013 09:51 AM, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It is probably linked to the RPM group change. Sorry.
+</I>&gt;<i> I can patch
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/rpmdrake/trunk/Rpmdrake/icon.pm?revision=6429&amp;view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/rpmdrake/trunk/Rpmdrake/icon.pm?revision=6429&amp;view=markup</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> if tv does not beat me to it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best,
+</I>OK, can you let me know what new package(s) to look for when I rsync ?
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+<PRE>16.01.2013 16:53, Colin Guthrie kirjutas:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Sander Lepik at 16/01/13 14:02 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 16.01.2013 15:31, Funda Wang kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ping?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ------------------ Original ------------------
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> From: &quot;Funda Wang&quot;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at fundawang.name</A>&gt;;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Date: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 08:23 AM
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> To: &quot;mageia-dev&quot;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Subject: [Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ibus, ibus-anthy
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Could ibus and ibus-anthy be pushed into core/release? We target at 1.5.x for mga3, and we now have 1.4.9x beta versions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> PS, you must remove corresponding packages from core/updates_testing before pushing them.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Should we think about some better system how to deal with freeze
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> pushing? A lot of pinging but some requests get no response. And then
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> people with proper privileges deal with some of the requests but not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with all. Soon we have 3x ping and still no reply when some packages get
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> submitted with first request.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Wiki page to list requests? So submitters can have a better overview?
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps a some kind of system whereby mgarepo submit will actually allow
+</I>&gt;<i> you to enter a &quot;reason&quot; if freeze is involved and some kind of web UI to
+</I>&gt;<i> list outstanding requests and/or authorise them if you are an admin? Or
+</I>&gt;<i> even some cmdline &quot;mgarepo freezereqs&quot; to list and &quot;mgarepo freezepush $id&quot;?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could be a Feature for the mga4 cycle perhaps?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>Bug is another way. As sometimes submitters have to ask questions. And
+then some saved search to find all pending requests.
+
+--
+Sander
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+<PRE>On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 05:56:34 PM Mustafa Muhammad wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 01/15/2013 03:42 PM, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mustafaa Al-Hamdaani skrev 15.1.2013 14:35:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Are features still accepted for Mageia 3? I have these three:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 1) Enable vertical two finger scrolling by default, simple but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; important.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 2) Desktop greeter (like kaptan of pardus or its fork for Chakra,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; kapudan):
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan">http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 3) catalyst-legacy for AMD cards 4xxx and before.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This one depends on AMD.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; They have not released any legacy driver since 12.6 last summer,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and that is not supporting x11-server 1.13 we use.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I know, I just hoped we can ship x11-server 1.12 and 1.13 and only one
+</I>&gt;<i> of them is installed, the power consumption with the open source drivers
+</I>&gt;<i> is just insane, especially for a laptop (and the quality too).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I asked yesterday and the answer was &quot;too late&quot;, but if this is technically
+possible, I think it will make a huge difference for a big number of Mageia
+users, maybe 25% of all users use those AMD cards, so please would you
+reconsider shipping catalyst-legacy if it is technically feasible.
+For such a benefit for the community, I think it worth considering (from
+catalyst maintainer and others).
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I know there is a policy for features, but I am asking, can I request
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; features now or it's too late?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Mustafa Muhammad Hadi
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+<PRE>&#22312; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 02:24:09 +0800, Colin Guthrie
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;&#23531;&#36947;:
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+</I>&gt;<i> So are you saying that you cannot login, but you also cannot reboot?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is that not a &quot;stale mate&quot; or &quot;catch 22&quot; situation?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Sorry for replying again and again.
+
+Today I use the power button to force shutdown and boot,
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+everything works now. Col you gave the right solution!
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+ <B>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou</B>
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+ <I>Wed Jan 16 16:31:16 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>On 16/01/13 15:05, Frank Griffin wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 01/16/2013 09:51 AM, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It is probably linked to the RPM group change. Sorry.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I can patch
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/rpmdrake/trunk/Rpmdrake/icon.pm?revision=6429&amp;view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/rpmdrake/trunk/Rpmdrake/icon.pm?revision=6429&amp;view=markup</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> if tv does not beat me to it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Best,
+</I>&gt;<i> OK, can you let me know what new package(s) to look for when I rsync ?
+</I>
+Well, it'll be in a new rpmdrake and maybe new installer, because there
+is more than just the file mentioned above to modify.
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+Best,
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mustafaa1987 at yahoo.com</A> at 16/01/13 15:18 did gyre and
+gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 05:56:34 PM Mustafa Muhammad wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 01/15/2013 03:42 PM, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mustafaa Al-Hamdaani skrev 15.1.2013 14:35:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Are features still accepted for Mageia 3? I have these three:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1) Enable vertical two finger scrolling by default, simple but
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> important.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2) Desktop greeter (like kaptan of pardus or its fork for Chakra,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> kapudan):
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan">http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3) catalyst-legacy for AMD cards 4xxx and before.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This one depends on AMD.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> They have not released any legacy driver since 12.6 last summer,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and that is not supporting x11-server 1.13 we use.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I know, I just hoped we can ship x11-server 1.12 and 1.13 and only one
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of them is installed, the power consumption with the open source drivers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is just insane, especially for a laptop (and the quality too).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I asked yesterday and the answer was &quot;too late&quot;, but if this is technically
+</I>&gt;<i> possible, I think it will make a huge difference for a big number of Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> users, maybe 25% of all users use those AMD cards, so please would you
+</I>&gt;<i> reconsider shipping catalyst-legacy if it is technically feasible.
+</I>&gt;<i> For such a benefit for the community, I think it worth considering (from
+</I>&gt;<i> catalyst maintainer and others).
+</I>
+Being realistic, shipping two x servers is simply not going to happen in
+time.
+
+It'll need lots of extra work including more h/w detection and automatic
+installation of the legacy x server (assuming the user wants the
+proprietary drivers only, the free drivers will of course want the
+latest xserver instead).
+
+I feel it's just too much complication at this late stage to do this.
+
+Perhaps someone can do some clever edits on the binaries to make them
+work with the newer xserver...
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>Colin Guthrie skrev 16.1.2013 17:34:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mustafaa1987 at yahoo.com</A> at 16/01/13 15:18 did gyre and
+</I>&gt;<i> gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 05:56:34 PM Mustafa Muhammad wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 01/15/2013 03:42 PM, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mustafaa Al-Hamdaani skrev 15.1.2013 14:35:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Are features still accepted for Mageia 3? I have these three:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1) Enable vertical two finger scrolling by default, simple but
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> important.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2) Desktop greeter (like kaptan of pardus or its fork for Chakra,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> kapudan):
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan">http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3) catalyst-legacy for AMD cards 4xxx and before.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This one depends on AMD.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> They have not released any legacy driver since 12.6 last summer,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and that is not supporting x11-server 1.13 we use.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I know, I just hoped we can ship x11-server 1.12 and 1.13 and only one
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> of them is installed, the power consumption with the open source drivers
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> is just insane, especially for a laptop (and the quality too).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I asked yesterday and the answer was &quot;too late&quot;, but if this is technically
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> possible, I think it will make a huge difference for a big number of Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> users, maybe 25% of all users use those AMD cards, so please would you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reconsider shipping catalyst-legacy if it is technically feasible.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For such a benefit for the community, I think it worth considering (from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> catalyst maintainer and others).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Being realistic, shipping two x servers is simply not going to happen in
+</I>&gt;<i> time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+or ever...
+
+&gt;<i> It'll need lots of extra work including more h/w detection and automatic
+</I>&gt;<i> installation of the legacy x server (assuming the user wants the
+</I>&gt;<i> proprietary drivers only, the free drivers will of course want the
+</I>&gt;<i> latest xserver instead).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I feel it's just too much complication at this late stage to do this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+There is way too much stuff integrated / interacting with x11-server,
+to sanely provide 2 of them without introducing regressions on
+either side...
+
+&gt;<i> Perhaps someone can do some clever edits on the binaries to make them
+</I>&gt;<i> work with the newer xserver...
+</I>
+Nope. No can do... that would violate the license.
+
+--
+Thomas
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+<PRE>I've been re-running /boot/grub/install.sh from within chroots for years
+with no problem. But today when I tried doing this, I consistently got
+Error 21: no such device. After googling a bit, I noticed that if I
+started grub in the rescue system and did &quot;grub&gt; geometry (hd0)&quot;, I got
+a correct response, but when I did the same thing from a chroot, it got
+Error 21.
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+If I bind-mount the rescue system's /dev to the chroot's /dev, it works
+fine.
+
+This makes perfect sense, except for the fact that I've never had to do
+it before. Any idea what changed ? This has the potential to screw up
+a lot of folks who were used to the old way.
+
+Maybe /dev/sdX entries are no longer static, and so don't exist on the
+root partition unless it is the booted system ?
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Frank Griffin at 16/01/13 16:03 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> I've been re-running /boot/grub/install.sh from within chroots for years
+</I>&gt;<i> with no problem. But today when I tried doing this, I consistently got
+</I>&gt;<i> Error 21: no such device. After googling a bit, I noticed that if I
+</I>&gt;<i> started grub in the rescue system and did &quot;grub&gt; geometry (hd0)&quot;, I got
+</I>&gt;<i> a correct response, but when I did the same thing from a chroot, it got
+</I>&gt;<i> Error 21.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If I bind-mount the rescue system's /dev to the chroot's /dev, it works
+</I>&gt;<i> fine.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This makes perfect sense, except for the fact that I've never had to do
+</I>&gt;<i> it before. Any idea what changed ? This has the potential to screw up
+</I>&gt;<i> a lot of folks who were used to the old way.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe /dev/sdX entries are no longer static, and so don't exist on the
+</I>&gt;<i> root partition unless it is the booted system ?
+</I>
+It's quite possible that the lack of static nodes is what's messing
+things up.
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+Personally I've been bind mounting /dev, /proc and /sys for years
+whenever doing any rescuecd etc. stuff. Partly because I have several
+LVM volumes where a static /dev/ wouldn't help anyway...
+
+But bind mounting /dev has just been part of my chroot routine for as
+long as I remember.
+
+Col
+
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+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+ <I>Wed Jan 16 17:25:40 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Kira at 16/01/13 15:29 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> everything works now.
+</I>
+Excellent.
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+&gt;<i> Col you gave the right solution!
+</I>
+I don't hear that often enough :D
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+Hope it's smoother from now on :)
+
+Col
+
+--
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>&#22312; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:25:40 +0800, Colin Guthrie
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;&#23531;&#36947;:
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Kira at 16/01/13 15:29 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> everything works now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Excellent.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Col you gave the right solution!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't hear that often enough :D
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hope it's smoother from now on :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>But I still keep the rtkit not updated...XD
+
+After the job on my WS is done I will do further report.
+
+I remember that it stuck up at the post-installation script.
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+ <B>Liam R E Quin</B>
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+&gt;<i> Personally I've been bind mounting /dev, /proc and /sys for years
+</I>&gt;<i> whenever doing any rescuecd etc. stuff. Partly because I have several
+</I>&gt;<i> LVM volumes where a static /dev/ wouldn't help anyway...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But bind mounting /dev has just been part of my chroot routine for as
+</I>&gt;<i> long as I remember.
+</I>
+Knowing about this would have saved me several days after trying to
+install the mageia beta (I now have it running with the
+3.6.5-tmb-desktop-3.mga3 kernel as the 3.8 one is broken without a fix
+to the recursive panic problem, which is fixed upstream). It's not
+obvious to people who don't do it often :-)
+
+Why not add a command to the rescue disk,
+bind-mount dir - mount /dev, /proc and /sys as /dir/dev etc for chroot
+
+Liam
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+Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, <A HREF="http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/">http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/</A>
+Pictures from old books: <A HREF="http://fromoldbooks.org/">http://fromoldbooks.org/</A>
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+today i saw that there are at least 2 devices ready to distribution in next
+weeks/month:
+<A HREF="http://pengpod.com/products/pengpod1000">http://pengpod.com/products/pengpod1000</A> (CPU A10 - price ~150 &#8364;)
+<A HREF="http://makeplaylive.com/">http://makeplaylive.com/</A> (CPU A9 - price ~200 &#8364;)
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+would we try to prepare a build also for this arm platform ?
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+regards
+Armando
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+&gt;<i> Today I use the power button to force shutdown and boot,
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+I used to do that too, untill I stumbled across a tip about the SysRq key.
+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Uses">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Uses</A>
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+&gt;<i> On Wednesday 16. January 2013 16.29, Kira wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Today I use the power button to force shutdown and boot,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I used to do that too, untill I stumbled across a tip about the SysRq
+</I>&gt;<i> key.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Uses">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Uses</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now I only use the power button when the SysRq sequence ain't working.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>In my cases, all system hotkey don't work. I have tried Ctrl+Alt+Backspace.
+
+X won't restart. Maybe this should be noted with further testing.
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+Scilab 5.3.3 doesn't built anymore on cauldron.
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 16:24 +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Personally I've been bind mounting /dev, /proc and /sys for years
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; whenever doing any rescuecd etc. stuff. Partly because I have several
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; LVM volumes where a static /dev/ wouldn't help anyway...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But bind mounting /dev has just been part of my chroot routine for as
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; long as I remember.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Knowing about this would have saved me several days after trying to
+</I>&gt;<i> install the mageia beta (I now have it running with the
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.6.5-tmb-desktop-3.mga3 kernel as the 3.8 one is broken without a fix
+</I>&gt;<i> to the recursive panic problem, which is fixed upstream). It's not
+</I>&gt;<i> obvious to people who don't do it often :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why not add a command to the rescue disk,
+</I>&gt;<i> bind-mount dir - mount /dev, /proc and /sys as /dir/dev etc for chroot
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Liam
+</I>
+because in fact, it's not really the correct solution (and there's multiple
+solutions for this too)
+
+A) mount --bind solution (in fact, only /dev is required) ; mount /proc and
+/sys can be done inside.
+B) in fact, udev people told us for a while now, you'd better just run udev
+inside the chroot, instead of mount --bind 'ing it.
+C) of course, udev is not inside systemd, so it appears the new way is now to
+somehow spawn a systemd process inside the chroot (maybe systemd-nspawn?)
+
+oh well, rescuing is for advanced users, so i don't really see the need here.
+rescue should be as small as possible anyway.
+
+i have no clue how you'd be successfull without binding; i didn't think disk
+devices were statically made anyway, at least not sdX.
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 16/01/13 09:53 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cool, so I had this still on my list to check. Seems the &quot;fix&quot; (which
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; was just ghosting the files) wasn't correct and as I mentioned in a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; previous mail about tmpfiles stuff, it would be wise to check the Xen
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; package to see what was done about adding tmpfiles support.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; AL13n reckoned that fedora just ghosted the files, but on closer
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; inspection they do also add tmpfiles support...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/xen.git/tree/tmpfiles.d.xen.conf">http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/xen.git/tree/tmpfiles.d.xen.conf</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'll fix it up.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Should be fixed by:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=388627">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=388627</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (assuming that the error really was about that file :D)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>
+i kind of doubt it, it looks more like xc isn't available (xenconsole?)
+(thanks anyway, colin :-) )
+
+btw: @tv, any reason why you're using xend? the xl toolchain doesn't require
+xend at all.
+
+i was planning on removing xm and xend support.
+
+perhaps closer should be to find out what libvirtd isn't working?
+
+of course, i did ask to maintain this, but it isn't easy for me to actually
+test it :-(. i had planned to test this at work, but other work has made me
+unable to actually run it for a while...
+
+anyway, i had to patch some stuff about xenconsole, but maybe i should take a
+closer look into what other patches fedora has. well, i should at least try to
+find some hardware i can use for this.
+
+also, i had planned on dropping internal qemu, but it upstream told me to wait
+for the next major version.
+
+if anyone can help me out with xen, i'd appreciate it.
+
+
+@tv:
+ - did you manually make another boot entry in grub with the hypervisor as
+kernel and the kernel as module and the initrd as another module? (that is
+necessary)
+ - could you check if the xl command does work?
+ - could you possibly give logs for libvirtd (and maybe do: 'systemctl list-
+units' ?)
+
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+<PRE>Op woensdag 16 januari 2013 17:43:36 schreef Thomas Backlund:
+&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie skrev 16.1.2013 17:34:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 'Twas brillig, and <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mustafaa1987 at yahoo.com</A> at 16/01/13 15:18 did gyre and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 05:56:34 PM Mustafa Muhammad wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; On 01/15/2013 03:42 PM, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Mustafaa Al-Hamdaani skrev 15.1.2013 14:35:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Are features still accepted for Mageia 3? I have these three:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 1) Enable vertical two finger scrolling by default, simple but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; important.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 2) Desktop greeter (like kaptan of pardus or its fork for Chakra,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; kapudan):
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan">http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 3) catalyst-legacy for AMD cards 4xxx and before.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; This one depends on AMD.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; They have not released any legacy driver since 12.6 last summer,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and that is not supporting x11-server 1.13 we use.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I know, I just hoped we can ship x11-server 1.12 and 1.13 and only one
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; of them is installed, the power consumption with the open source drivers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; is just insane, especially for a laptop (and the quality too).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I asked yesterday and the answer was &quot;too late&quot;, but if this is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; technically
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; possible, I think it will make a huge difference for a big number of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; users, maybe 25% of all users use those AMD cards, so please would you
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; reconsider shipping catalyst-legacy if it is technically feasible.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; For such a benefit for the community, I think it worth considering (from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; catalyst maintainer and others).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Being realistic, shipping two x servers is simply not going to happen in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> or ever...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It'll need lots of extra work including more h/w detection and automatic
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; installation of the legacy x server (assuming the user wants the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; proprietary drivers only, the free drivers will of course want the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; latest xserver instead).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I feel it's just too much complication at this late stage to do this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is way too much stuff integrated / interacting with x11-server,
+</I>&gt;<i> to sanely provide 2 of them without introducing regressions on
+</I>&gt;<i> either side...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Perhaps someone can do some clever edits on the binaries to make them
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; work with the newer xserver...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nope. No can do... that would violate the license.
+</I>
+it's sad, i too have one that's just not supported by AMD anymore, but that's
+simply the way it is... AMD doesn't think 3y old hardware needs to be
+supported, you need to buy new stuff instead... :-(
+
+i found it annoying, but ah well, i'm just running it with open source driver
+on my media center, and at least the video performence is adequate...
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+<PRE>Op donderdag 17 januari 2013 01:23:12 schreef Kira:
+&gt;<i> &#22312; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:49:01 +0800, Johnny A. Solbu &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cooker at solbu.net</A>&gt;&#23531;&#36947;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Wednesday 16. January 2013 16.29, Kira wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Today I use the power button to force shutdown and boot,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I used to do that too, untill I stumbled across a tip about the SysRq
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; key.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Uses">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Uses</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Now I only use the power button when the SysRq sequence ain't working.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In my cases, all system hotkey don't work. I have tried Ctrl+Alt+Backspace.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> X won't restart. Maybe this should be noted with further testing.
+</I>
+iinm Ctrl+Alt+Backspace is now disabled by default in X?
+
+in any case SysReq keys are quite different, they work directly in kernel, so
+you could try that...
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+<PRE>Op dinsdag 15 januari 2013 12:32:27 schreef Johnny A. Solbu:
+&gt;<i> On Tuesday 15. January 2013 11.43, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sounds like one of your media couldn't be updated or something. Not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; directly related to urpmi-proxy per-se but it could certainly confuse
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the issue :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just for good measure, I ran &#171;urpmi.upfdate -a&#187; just now, and the count
+</I>&gt;<i> didnt change. No media where unable to update, and I only have one repo
+</I>&gt;<i> configured. (<A HREF="http://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors">http://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors</A>)
+</I>
+just mentioning, that the disadvantage to urpmi-proxy, is that it hides
+connection errors to repositories, since it will use cache if it fails. you
+can look at the logfile if it mentions HIT_AFTER_FAIL (which means it gets you
+cache after it failed)
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+lately, i've been testing with 2 repositories and changing the timeout value
+to very low values (5s)
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+as first repos, i choose one that is fast, and as second repos, i use what is
+always up2date. considering MD5SUM would be asked for both repositories (it's
+a specially configured file for that), it would get you always up2date results,
+since the first would fail to have the file and the second one would be asked
+for it.
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+for me, this gave alot better results especially for cauldron during the mass
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+<PRE>I am indeed interested in helping to establish this kind of infrastructure
+and I think I could reallocate some time to help with that effort. But,
+that would only make sense, if Mageia would adopt and use the system at the
+end - if it proves to be useful.
+Do you think that would be the case? What would be the next step? Is there
+some way to express a formal proposal?
+
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+2013/1/10 Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> Le 10/01/2013 14:18, Jochen Breuer a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks Guillame. I wasn't aware of this and did not manage to find that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in the wiki. I thought the only tests performed where RPM lint checks,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> manual checks by the QA and some undefined checks by the maintainers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anyhow, I assume the 'make test' is performed on the build server. Your
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> experiences might prove me wrong, but wouldn't it be better to perform
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tests on a different installation?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Probably, indeed, because the environment would be closer to an actual
+</I>&gt;<i> usage environment. But this is hardly measurable.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And you have to balance the added value of those additional tests with the
+</I>&gt;<i> manpower needed to setup a new test infrastructure, integrate it with
+</I>&gt;<i> current build system, and maintain it... I heard the sysadmin team was
+</I>&gt;<i> looking for volonteers, if you're interested :P
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> BOFH excuse #174:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Backbone adjustment
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 20:48 +0100, AL13N wrote:
+&gt;<i> Op woensdag 16 januari 2013 11:30:27 schreef Liam R E Quin:
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+&gt;<i> &gt; Why not add a command to the rescue disk,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; bind-mount dir - mount /dev, /proc and /sys as /dir/dev etc for chroot
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> because in fact, it's not really the correct solution (and there's multiple
+</I>&gt;<i> solutions for this too)
+</I>
+Then add some documentation about how to use the mounted partitions with
+chroot.
+
+&gt;<i> oh well, rescuing is for advanced users, so i don't really see the need here.
+</I>&gt;<i> rescue should be as small as possible anyway.
+</I>
+Let's not be dismissive of people. If we felt that way, we'd tell
+everyone to use NetBSD :-) Why is there something to install drivers
+when an advanced user can look at the boot log and use modprobe? Heck,
+I've seen a live Unix (V7? BSD 4.1? I forget) kernel patched by
+editing /dev/mem.
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+Since people sometimes do need to use chroot, it's an opportunity to
+improve the rescue disk.
+
+&gt;<i> i have no clue how you'd be successfull without binding; i didn't think disk
+</I>&gt;<i> devices were statically made anyway, at least not sdX.
+</I>I wasn't successful without binding, although there are other ways to
+get access to sdX devices in the chroot'd partition.
+
+Liam
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+&gt;<i> &gt; Now I only use the power button when the SysRq sequence ain't working.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> In my cases, all system hotkey don't work. I have tried Ctrl+Alt+Backspace.
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+If the SysRq sequence doesn't work, you are not able to do anything. and everything is frozen. and I really do mean everything.
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and AL13N at 16/01/13 20:10 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 17 januari 2013 01:23:12 schreef Kira:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#22312; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:49:01 +0800, Johnny A. Solbu &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cooker at solbu.net</A>&gt;&#23531;&#36947;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Wednesday 16. January 2013 16.29, Kira wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Today I use the power button to force shutdown and boot,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I used to do that too, untill I stumbled across a tip about the SysRq
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> key.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Uses">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Uses</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Now I only use the power button when the SysRq sequence ain't working.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In my cases, all system hotkey don't work. I have tried Ctrl+Alt+Backspace.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> X won't restart. Maybe this should be noted with further testing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> iinm Ctrl+Alt+Backspace is now disabled by default in X?
+</I>
+You need to hit it twice to kill X these days I think.
+
+Col
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and AL13N at 16/01/13 19:48 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Op woensdag 16 januari 2013 11:30:27 schreef Liam R E Quin:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 16:24 +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Personally I've been bind mounting /dev, /proc and /sys for years
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> whenever doing any rescuecd etc. stuff. Partly because I have several
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> LVM volumes where a static /dev/ wouldn't help anyway...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But bind mounting /dev has just been part of my chroot routine for as
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> long as I remember.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Knowing about this would have saved me several days after trying to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> install the mageia beta (I now have it running with the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3.6.5-tmb-desktop-3.mga3 kernel as the 3.8 one is broken without a fix
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to the recursive panic problem, which is fixed upstream). It's not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> obvious to people who don't do it often :-)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why not add a command to the rescue disk,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bind-mount dir - mount /dev, /proc and /sys as /dir/dev etc for chroot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Liam
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> because in fact, it's not really the correct solution (and there's multiple
+</I>&gt;<i> solutions for this too)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A) mount --bind solution (in fact, only /dev is required) ; mount /proc and
+</I>&gt;<i> /sys can be done inside.
+</I>
+True. Tho' I've always favoured the bind mount for some unknown reason :)
+
+&gt;<i> B) in fact, udev people told us for a while now, you'd better just run udev
+</I>&gt;<i> inside the chroot, instead of mount --bind 'ing it.
+</I>
+Really? I could swear Kay told me recently that it's only really
+sensible to run one udevd... Hmm, will ask him again when I see him
+online next.
+
+&gt;<i> C) of course, udev is not inside systemd, so it appears the new way is now to
+</I>&gt;<i> somehow spawn a systemd process inside the chroot (maybe systemd-nspawn?)
+</I>
+Personally I think that's overkill.
+
+&gt;<i> oh well, rescuing is for advanced users, so i don't really see the need here.
+</I>&gt;<i> rescue should be as small as possible anyway.
+</I>
+Indeedy :)
+
+Col
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and AL13N at 16/01/13 20:22 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Op dinsdag 15 januari 2013 12:32:27 schreef Johnny A. Solbu:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tuesday 15. January 2013 11.43, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sounds like one of your media couldn't be updated or something. Not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> directly related to urpmi-proxy per-se but it could certainly confuse
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the issue :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just for good measure, I ran &#171;urpmi.upfdate -a&#187; just now, and the count
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> didnt change. No media where unable to update, and I only have one repo
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> configured. (<A HREF="http://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors">http://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> just mentioning, that the disadvantage to urpmi-proxy, is that it hides
+</I>&gt;<i> connection errors to repositories, since it will use cache if it fails. you
+</I>&gt;<i> can look at the logfile if it mentions HIT_AFTER_FAIL (which means it gets you
+</I>&gt;<i> cache after it failed)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> lately, i've been testing with 2 repositories and changing the timeout value
+</I>&gt;<i> to very low values (5s)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> as first repos, i choose one that is fast, and as second repos, i use what is
+</I>&gt;<i> always up2date. considering MD5SUM would be asked for both repositories (it's
+</I>&gt;<i> a specially configured file for that), it would get you always up2date results,
+</I>&gt;<i> since the first would fail to have the file and the second one would be asked
+</I>&gt;<i> for it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> for me, this gave alot better results especially for cauldron during the mass
+</I>&gt;<i> rebuild...
+</I>
+Interesting idea. Never thought about using two mirrors in the config.
+
+I fought with urpmi-proxy today for a while. No matter what I tried,
+when downloading a synthesis via the proxy it always ended up too small
+and with md5sum failures. Requesting the same file direct from the
+mirrors worked every time. I noticed that the file never ended up in the
+cache tree, just in the tmp dir. Time wasn't on my side, so I didn't
+debug further... one to fight another day.
+
+(this is with urpmi-proxy-0.3.2-1.mga2 on mga2 FWIW)
+
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+Col
+
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+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
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+&gt;<i> you can look at the logfile if it mentions HIT_AFTER_FAIL
+</I>&gt;<i> (which means it gets you cache after it failed)
+</I>
+# grep -i HIT_AFTER_FAIL /var/log/urpmi-proxy.log |wc -l
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+Please push mojarra, this is a new version ( previous one do not build
+with java7 ), i tested and the 2 deps of mojarra still builds OK ( no
+API changes )
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+Mojarra is important in the java stack and need to be kept, only this
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+<PRE>Op woensdag 16 januari 2013 21:22:22 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and AL13N at 16/01/13 20:22 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op dinsdag 15 januari 2013 12:32:27 schreef Johnny A. Solbu:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Tuesday 15. January 2013 11.43, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Sounds like one of your media couldn't be updated or something. Not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; directly related to urpmi-proxy per-se but it could certainly confuse
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; the issue :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Just for good measure, I ran &#171;urpmi.upfdate -a&#187; just now, and the count
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; didnt change. No media where unable to update, and I only have one repo
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; configured. (<A HREF="http://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors">http://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; just mentioning, that the disadvantage to urpmi-proxy, is that it hides
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; connection errors to repositories, since it will use cache if it fails.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; you
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; can look at the logfile if it mentions HIT_AFTER_FAIL (which means it gets
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; you cache after it failed)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; lately, i've been testing with 2 repositories and changing the timeout
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; value to very low values (5s)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; as first repos, i choose one that is fast, and as second repos, i use what
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is always up2date. considering MD5SUM would be asked for both
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; repositories (it's a specially configured file for that), it would get
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; you always up2date results, since the first would fail to have the file
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and the second one would be asked for it.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for me, this gave alot better results especially for cauldron during the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mass rebuild...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Interesting idea. Never thought about using two mirrors in the config.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I fought with urpmi-proxy today for a while. No matter what I tried,
+</I>&gt;<i> when downloading a synthesis via the proxy it always ended up too small
+</I>&gt;<i> and with md5sum failures. Requesting the same file direct from the
+</I>&gt;<i> mirrors worked every time. I noticed that the file never ended up in the
+</I>&gt;<i> cache tree, just in the tmp dir. Time wasn't on my side, so I didn't
+</I>&gt;<i> debug further... one to fight another day.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (this is with urpmi-proxy-0.3.2-1.mga2 on mga2 FWIW)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>
+so, either a partial file, or out of disk space? better make sure the cache
+tree is the same partition as the tmp dir it uses.
+
+in any case, using multiple mirrors isn't supported...
+
+(yet)
+
+i'm just trying them out this way.
+
+i had alot of troubles with cauldron due to mismatches with MD5SUM and the
+synthesis files, because the MD5SUM doesn't match the synthesis files
+
+but, sometimes, i do have some oddness in files (i think maybe i need better
+error-checking) like if you get a partial result, it doesn't get removed from
+cache. so if it does fail, i delete the file from the cache tree for now.
+
+don't forget to do that in all your cascading urpmi-proxy's...
+
+i actually have tested 3 cascading urpmi-proxy's.
+
+in normal usage, i have an urpmi-proxy at my local lan. one at my desktop
+itself, and then once i tested urpmi-proxy in a VM on my desktop.
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+the one on my desktop has an &quot;extra&quot; repository (and changes which ones are
+default), and the one on the server has now 2 sources (http mirrors), with
+very small timeouts (i may have used 3 or 5 seconds)
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+since i have an urpmi-proxy at work, my work-laptop had always 2 sources which
+i uncommented constantly, but perhaps i should actually set them both, with
+very small timeouts... maybe with a 3rd slow one?
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+<PRE>Op woensdag 16 januari 2013 22:33:10 schreef Johnny A. Solbu:
+&gt;<i> On Wednesday 16. January 2013 21.22, AL13N wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; you can look at the logfile if it mentions HIT_AFTER_FAIL
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (which means it gets you cache after it failed)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> # grep -i HIT_AFTER_FAIL /var/log/urpmi-proxy.log |wc -l
+</I>&gt;<i> 0
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So that's not the issue. :-)=
+</I>
+then it looks like you're up2date after all...
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+glusterfs won't build (autoreconf bails), but also it's a new version
+which was never pushed (presumably because it didn't build then?)
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+Anyway, there is an even newer version now, so I've packaged that up.
+
+Not all features are enabled (Fedora package is much cooler) so I'd
+propose to make it a lot more useful (it sounds like an interesting
+system to me generally) and use a lot of the patches etc. from Fedora if
+we can.
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+But for the short term, please push it as it's better than what we have
+now (i.e. it builds!).
+
+Might have missed some new deps so it might not build first time on BS.
+
+Col
+
+--
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+Open Source:
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+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>Em 16-01-2013 23:06, AL13N escreveu:
+&gt;<i> Op woensdag 16 januari 2013 21:22:22 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I fought with urpmi-proxy today for a while. No matter what I tried,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> when downloading a synthesis via the proxy it always ended up too small
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and with md5sum failures. Requesting the same file direct from the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mirrors worked every time. I noticed that the file never ended up in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cache tree, just in the tmp dir. Time wasn't on my side, so I didn't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> debug further... one to fight another day.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (this is with urpmi-proxy-0.3.2-1.mga2 on mga2 FWIW)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> so, either a partial file, or out of disk space? better make sure the cache
+</I>&gt;<i> tree is the same partition as the tmp dir it uses.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I experienced something like this when I tried to have urpmi-proxy cache
+and temp dirs in different partitions. Putting them in the same one
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and zezinho at 16/01/13 22:56 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Em 16-01-2013 23:06, AL13N escreveu:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Op woensdag 16 januari 2013 21:22:22 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I fought with urpmi-proxy today for a while. No matter what I tried,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> when downloading a synthesis via the proxy it always ended up too small
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and with md5sum failures. Requesting the same file direct from the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mirrors worked every time. I noticed that the file never ended up in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> cache tree, just in the tmp dir. Time wasn't on my side, so I didn't
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> debug further... one to fight another day.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (this is with urpmi-proxy-0.3.2-1.mga2 on mga2 FWIW)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so, either a partial file, or out of disk space? better make sure the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cache
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tree is the same partition as the tmp dir it uses.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I experienced something like this when I tried to have urpmi-proxy cache
+</I>&gt;<i> and temp dirs in different partitions. Putting them in the same one
+</I>&gt;<i> fixed it.
+</I>
+In this case they are both on the same partition and there is plenty
+free space :s
+
+Col
+
+
+--
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Open Source:
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+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> glusterfs won't build (autoreconf bails), but also it's a new version
+</I>&gt;<i> which was never pushed (presumably because it didn't build then?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyway, there is an even newer version now, so I've packaged that up.
+</I>
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+<PRE>David Walser skrev 17.1.2013 01:07:
+&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> glusterfs won't build (autoreconf bails), but also it's a new version
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> which was never pushed (presumably because it didn't build then?)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anyway, there is an even newer version now, so I've packaged that up.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1 as the new version also fixes CVE-2012-4417.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Submitted.
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+--
+Thomas
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+ <B>Davy Defaud</B>
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+<PRE>Dear Mageia packagers,
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+Now that it's time for polishing, I'd like to give a feedback on my own
+experience with mga3 beta1.
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+I've installed a mga3 beta1 x86_64 (DVD GNOME install) as soon as it has
+been released on a brand new SSD (one of my two 6 year old 320MB old
+disks mounted as a striped LVM was agonizing and corrupting my
+filesystems...). Here's a (not so) quick review of my installation.
+As I wanted something modern, simple and performant, I decided to give a
+try to btrfs as my root partition without separated /boot (hence why I
+was a waiting beta1 for GRUB2) nor /var and, of course these days, no
+/usr neither. My /home remains in ext4, as I'm aware of the btrfs' fsck
+not considered as something reliable enough...
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+First of all, I've noticed that when you choose a customized size for a
+partition, each time you edit the size (resize button) of a partition
+and then cancel without any change, the size is decremented by a couple
+of MB. Not a blocking bug though, but it should be fixed, IMHO.
+I've also noticed that the installer hasn't automatically proposed GRUB2
+as the default bootloader, whereas my root partition wasn't accessible
+from GRUB legacy and I had no independent ext3 /boot. Of course, this
+shouldn't be a problem if GRUB2 becomes the default bootloader for the
+final mga3...
+The rest of the installation went seamlessly and brought me to GDM.
+
+However, after the installation there were some &quot;anomalies&quot;:
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+- my kernel was the server version one (kernel-server), even though I
+haven't selected any server configuration&#8239;;
+
+- more annoying, there was no syslog daemon and I had to install rsyslog
+by myself. It seems that none of the core packages is requiring a syslog
+daemon (unless systemd is supposed to handle the syslog in a way I'm not
+aware of);
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+- I was unable to mount a CD/DVD as a normal user, but only as root. A
+really annoying bug (#8405) for end users IMHO, but I finally found a
+simple stupid solution: get rid of the cdrom entry generated in the
+fstab and let the magic udev/udisks do the trick! This cdrom entry
+should probably not be generated by the installer anymore...
+
+- I own a DVB card, but its firmware (dvb-fe-tda10046.fw) is not
+provided by any mga package. We used to find it in a Mandriva PLF rpm
+before. It would be nice for end users to find it in a Mageia package
+somehow. Moreover, the module and its dependencies (saa7134,
+saa7134_dvb, saa7134_alsa) don't work after resuming from suspend.
+Unfortunately, a dedicated script in /etc/pm/sleep.d/ doesn't help since
+it doesn't seem to be called. But anyway, this bug should have been
+fixed for a long time as a patch has been proposed to the kernel
+subsystem maintainer (Mauro Carvalho Chehab), but... see the most
+interesting part of the story here:
+<A HREF="http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.video-input-infrastructure/46854">http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.video-input-infrastructure/46854</A>
+Perhaps Thomas, our dear kernel master, could include it in the next mga
+kernel, so I could give my feedback on the patch?...
+
+- Another very annoying thing too is that some packages (easytag, and
+also thunar when installing XFCE although you choose nautilus as your
+favorite filemanager) are replacing Nautilus for handling folders and
+mounted removable drives (SDcard, USB key...). The fix is to remove
+these &quot;inode/directory&quot; entries of the desktop files in
+/usr/share/applications/ and also from
+/usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache (or at least put nautilus.desktop
+as the first one in mimeinfo.cache) ;
+
+- Still no easy way to convert my Bluetooth DiNovo keyboard &amp; mouse
+combo into a generic purpose Bluetooth receiver (the usual fix doesn't
+work at all: neither hiddev* nor hidraw* in
+/lib/udev/rules.d/97-bluetooth-hid2hci.rules is working anymore)...
+
+- Default GTK+ configuration seems to be &quot;non standard&quot; (gtk-theme-name
+is set to oxygen-gtk and gtk-icon-theme-name is set to oxygen-gtk both
+in /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc/ and /etc/gtk-3.0/settings.ini instead of
+respectively &quot;Adwaita&quot; and &quot;gnome&quot;) causing some glitches (for example,
+when you change the volume with mutimedia keys, the OSD sound volume
+background image is missing and replaced by an ugly gray)&#8239;;
+
+- grub2 + early plymouth experience remains not very good, we are still
+far from a flicker free boot. Resolutions are limited to 4:3 ratios and
+up to 1600&#215;1200 (my display is a 16:10 1920&#215;1200 driven by a free r300g
+KMS driver), but I guess this kind of things belongs to upstream. For
+instance, although grub2 is configured as graphical and quiet, I'm still
+seeing some text mode screens during the boot. Isn't plymouth supposed
+to avoid it?
+
+- mediatomb has to be patched in order to work with the recent Samsung
+SmartTV models (2012 &quot;E&quot; series like the UE46E7000). I've rebuilt our
+latest package applying the patch (found here:
+<A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&amp;aid=3532724&amp;group_id=129766&amp;atid=715782">http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&amp;aid=3532724&amp;group_id=129766&amp;atid=715782</A>)
+and, after some tweakings in the config file (custom_header and changes
+for mkv mime-type) and the firewall rules, it now plays successfully
+everything I tested.
+
+- GDM dialogs (or pam ones) are still not localized (passord, login
+errors...), but I guess it's normal for a beta1...
+
+Last thing, I think it would be smart to install or suggest, some
+packages that could be considered essential to any kind of installation
+(at least those connected to a network, i.e. 99.9%). For instance:
+- bash-completion;
+- ntp;
+- ssh.
+
+Please, let me know which of the reported problems deserve some bugzilla
+entries. And I apologize if you think my post is too long or irrelevant
+for this mailing list.
+
+HTH,
+
+Davy
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+<PRE>Thomas Backlund skrev 17.1.2013 01:09:
+&gt;<i> David Walser skrev 17.1.2013 01:07:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> glusterfs won't build (autoreconf bails), but also it's a new version
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> which was never pushed (presumably because it didn't build then?)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Anyway, there is an even newer version now, so I've packaged that up.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +1 as the new version also fixes CVE-2012-4417.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Submitted.
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130116230917.tmb.valstar.1955/log/glusterfs-3.3.1-1.mga3/build.0.20130116231002.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130116230917.tmb.valstar.1955/log/glusterfs-3.3.1-1.mga3/build.0.20130116231002.log</A>
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+<PRE>D.Morgan skrev 16.1.2013 23:41:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please push mojarra, this is a new version ( previous one do not build
+</I>&gt;<i> with java7 ), i tested and the 2 deps of mojarra still builds OK ( no
+</I>&gt;<i> API changes )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mojarra is important in the java stack and need to be kept, only this
+</I>&gt;<i> version will allow this.
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+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> D
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+<PRE>Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+&gt;<i> David Walser skrev 17.1.2013 01:07:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; +1 as the new version also fixes CVE-2012-4417.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> Submitted.
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and David Walser at 16/01/13 23:13 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> David Walser skrev 17.1.2013 01:07:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +1 as the new version also fixes CVE-2012-4417.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Submitted.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks, but it needs BuildRequires: openssl-devel added.
+</I>
+Done that now. If you could resubmit when you can and I'll see what the
+next error is :D
+
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+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+ <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B>
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+<PRE>On Thursday 17. January 2013 00.10, Davy Defaud wrote:
+&gt;<i> Last thing, I think it would be smart to install or suggest, some
+</I>&gt;<i> packages that could be considered essential to any kind of installation
+</I>&gt;<i> (at least those connected to a network, i.e. 99.9%). For instance:
+</I>
+&gt;<i> - ssh.
+</I>
+As long as you're not talking about the ssh server. Installing a server by default where one can login is insecure!
+Anyone having a need for a ssh server is capable of installing it manually, one way or another.
+
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+<PRE>Colin Guthrie skrev 17.1.2013 01:17:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and David Walser at 16/01/13 23:13 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> David Walser skrev 17.1.2013 01:07:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +1 as the new version also fixes CVE-2012-4417.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Submitted.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks, but it needs BuildRequires: openssl-devel added.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Done that now. If you could resubmit when you can and I'll see what the
+</I>&gt;<i> next error is :D
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Done.
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+<PRE>Funda Wang skrev 16.1.2013 15:31:
+&gt;<i> ping?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ------------------ Original ------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> From: &quot;Funda Wang&quot;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at fundawang.name</A>&gt;;
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 08:23 AM
+</I>&gt;<i> To: &quot;mageia-dev&quot;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: [Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ibus, ibus-anthy
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could ibus and ibus-anthy be pushed into core/release? We target at 1.5.x for mga3, and we now have 1.4.9x beta versions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS, you must remove corresponding packages from core/updates_testing before pushing them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+Removed and pushed.
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+<PRE>Funda Wang skrev 15.1.2013 16:06:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could scribus 1.4.2 be pushed? It features a hunspell based spellchecker, which obsoletes aspell checker. Thus, we could finally throw all aspell related pacakges in mga3, as planed. \o/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+Sounds good to atleast being able to drop some deps...
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+Pushed.
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+--
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+<PRE>Claire Revillet skrev 16.1.2013 21:10:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please push scilab 5.4.0.
+</I>&gt;<i> Scilab 5.3.3 doesn't built anymore on cauldron.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Claire
+</I>
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+ <B>Luc Menut</B>
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+<PRE>Le 16/01/2013 15:51, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 16/01/13 14:27, Frank Griffin wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I seem to remember a bug report go by which had something to do with not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> offering package groups during Package Selection that aren't actually on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the install media, and that Thierry reported it fixed. That may be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> related to what I'm seeing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I just tried a fresh network install against a local copy of cauldron
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that was just synced, and when I choose &quot;Custom Desktop&quot; and get to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Package Group Selection, the only groups shown under Workstation are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Game Station, Internet Station, Console Tools, Multimedia Statio,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Configuration, and Documentation.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Under Server, there is only Firewall/Router.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Under Graphical Environment, there is only LXDE Desktop and Other
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Graphical Desktops.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any idea what's goin on ? I don't think the other categories got wrapped
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> into these, because checking them all only gives me a total size of 4864
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> instead of the usual 8000-9000 value.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It is probably linked to the RPM group change. Sorry.
+</I>
+
+not sure, it may be a problem in this change
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=388363">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=388363</A>
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+&gt;<i> &gt; C) of course, udev is not inside systemd, so it appears the new way is now to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; somehow spawn a systemd process inside the chroot (maybe systemd-nspawn?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Personally I think that's overkill.
+</I>
++1 and systemd works badly with chrooted prcesses itself as I
+experienced recently with squid :-( I'd like to have more time to
+experiment with LXC, maybe a easier solution for systemd usage (but not
+for what you tried to achieve).
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+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%0A%20mesa-9.1.0-0.git20130114.1.mga3&In-Reply-To=%3C20130116191927.5c46e5dc%40SuperSize.eslrahc.com%3E"
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+<PRE>On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 23:06:48 +0100 (CET)
+cjw wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Name : mesa Relocations: (not
+</I>&gt;<i> relocatable) Version : 9.1.0 Vendor:
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia.Org Release : 0.git20130114.1.mga3 Build Date:
+</I>&gt;<i> Wed Jan 16 22:55:25 2013 Install Date: (not installed)
+</I>&gt;<i> Build Host: jonund.mageia.org Group :
+</I>&gt;<i> System/Libraries Source RPM: (none) Size :
+</I>&gt;<i> 5537681 License: MIT Signature : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager : cjw &lt;cjw&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL : <A HREF="http://www.mesa3d.org">http://www.mesa3d.org</A>
+</I>
+
+What happened to tainted?
+
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+ The ability to bear with calmness the misfortunes of our
+friends. ----------------------
+Mageia release 3 (Cauldron) for x86_64$
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+<PRE>Charles A Edwards skrev 17.1.2013 02:19:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 23:06:48 +0100 (CET)
+</I>&gt;<i> cjw wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Name : mesa Relocations: (not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> relocatable) Version : 9.1.0 Vendor:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia.Org Release : 0.git20130114.1.mga3 Build Date:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Wed Jan 16 22:55:25 2013 Install Date: (not installed)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Build Host: jonund.mageia.org Group :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> System/Libraries Source RPM: (none) Size :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 5537681 License: MIT Signature : (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Packager : cjw &lt;cjw&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> URL : <A HREF="http://www.mesa3d.org">http://www.mesa3d.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What happened to tainted?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Just submitted...
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+--
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+ <B>Charles A Edwards</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%0A%20mesa-9.1.0-0.git20130114.1.mga3&In-Reply-To=%3C20130116200525.713d0fda%40SuperSize.eslrahc.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release mesa-9.1.0-0.git20130114.1.mga3">CAE at eslrahc.com
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+<PRE>On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 02:28:35 +0200
+Thomas Backlund wrote:
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+&gt;<i> &gt; What happened to tainted?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> Just submitted...
+</I>
+Thanks.
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+Would trying/testing nouveau OpenGL acceleration with 9800GTs be of
+interest/useful?
+
+
+ Charles
+
+--
+I need to discuss BUY-BACK PROVISIONS with at least six studio
+SLEAZEBALLS!! ----------------------
+Mageia release 3 (Cauldron) for x86_64$
+On SuperSize....<A HREF="http://www.eslrahc.com">http://www.eslrahc.com</A>
+Registered Linux user #182463
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Feedback on Mageia 3 beta1">sander.lepik at eesti.ee
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+<PRE>17.01.2013 01:10, Davy Defaud kirjutas:
+&gt;<i> - more annoying, there was no syslog daemon and I had to install rsyslog
+</I>&gt;<i> by myself. It seems that none of the core packages is requiring a syslog
+</I>&gt;<i> daemon (unless systemd is supposed to handle the syslog in a way I'm not
+</I>&gt;<i> aware of);
+</I>FYI: <A HREF="http://www.zarb.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-October/019581.html">http://www.zarb.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-October/019581.html</A>
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+ <B>Hugo Pereira Da Costa</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Feedback%20on%20Mageia%203%20beta1&In-Reply-To=%3C50F7BDE9.6030503%40oxygen-icons.org%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Feedback on Mageia 3 beta1">hugo at oxygen-icons.org
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+<PRE>Hi Davy
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - Default GTK+ configuration seems to be &quot;non standard&quot; (gtk-theme-name
+</I>&gt;<i> is set to oxygen-gtk and gtk-icon-theme-name is set to oxygen-gtk both
+</I>&gt;<i> in /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc/ and /etc/gtk-3.0/settings.ini instead of
+</I>&gt;<i> respectively &quot;Adwaita&quot; and &quot;gnome&quot;) causing some glitches (for example,
+</I>&gt;<i> when you change the volume with mutimedia keys, the OSD sound volume
+</I>&gt;<i> background image is missing and replaced by an ugly gray)&#8239;;
+</I>
+This (the use of oxygen-gtk) is 'on purpose', to have a consistent look
+and feel across DE, and across toolkits.
+Now, there might indeed exist rendering bugs with oxygen-gtk + gnome.
+They deserve a bug report (so that I can fix them, on the 'upstream'
+oxygen-gtk side. Either at <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/,">https://bugs.mageia.org/,</A> or (even better) at
+bugs.kde.org. Product being oxygen, and component gtk2-engine or
+gtk3-engine, depending on which is the underlying toolkit. Screenshots
+also appreciated.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Hugo
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Bruno Cornec at 16/01/13 23:41 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie said on Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 09:17:46PM +0000:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> C) of course, udev is not inside systemd, so it appears the new way is now to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> somehow spawn a systemd process inside the chroot (maybe systemd-nspawn?)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Personally I think that's overkill.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1 and systemd works badly with chrooted prcesses itself as I
+</I>&gt;<i> experienced recently with squid :-( I'd like to have more time to
+</I>&gt;<i> experiment with LXC, maybe a easier solution for systemd usage (but not
+</I>&gt;<i> for what you tried to achieve).
+</I>
+Perhaps squid is not configured right, but systemd works very well with
+chrooted processes - it's one of the core features to make chrooting
+easier and prevent the need for boiler plate setup in numerous packages.
+That said some changes may be required to make best use of this.
+
+See part 6 in the (currently) 20 part series of blog posts regarding
+systemd for administrators:
+
+<A HREF="http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/changing-roots.html">http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/changing-roots.html</A>
+
+(for full list see here:
+<A HREF="http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd">http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd</A> and look for &quot;The
+systemd for Administrators Blog Series&quot;)
+
+
+Depending on the need for access to socket paths (e.g. for unix sockets)
+then the /run on tmpfs can cause some problems (e.g. with cyrus-sasl
+auth and chrooted postfix - previously hardlinks were used to allow the
+chroot and host to see the &quot;same&quot; socket, but this was hacky at best as
+there was no guarantee the chroot and host were on the same filesystem -
+now they are guaranteed not to be on the same fs).
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+If you would like to detail the problems with squid and point at a
+detailed bug report I can take a look or at least advise on the best
+steps to take to get a really solid system.
+
+Col
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+<PRE>Colin Guthrie said on Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 09:45:27AM +0000:
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+&gt;<i> If you would like to detail the problems with squid and point at a
+</I>&gt;<i> detailed bug report I can take a look or at least advise on the best
+</I>&gt;<i> steps to take to get a really solid system.
+</I>
+I've detailed my feedback here:
+<A HREF="http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/a-mageia-based-firewall-with-auto_inst-and-lots-of-other-stuff-like-chrooted-squid/">http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/a-mageia-based-firewall-with-auto_inst-and-lots-of-other-stuff-like-chrooted-squid/</A>
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+Bruno.
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Bruno Cornec at 17/01/13 10:35 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie said on Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 09:45:27AM +0000:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you would like to detail the problems with squid and point at a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> detailed bug report I can take a look or at least advise on the best
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> steps to take to get a really solid system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've detailed my feedback here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/a-mageia-based-firewall-with-auto_inst-and-lots-of-other-stuff-like-chrooted-squid/">http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/a-mageia-based-firewall-with-auto_inst-and-lots-of-other-stuff-like-chrooted-squid/</A>
+</I>
+I've not read fully, but you don't even appear to have written a systemd
+unit to tell systemd about your chrooted environment or customised the
+init script for squid to run inside a chroot.
+
+Systemd has one of the best set of documentation available on any
+project I've worked on. There are so many man pages, wiki posts and
+blogs documenting the various features.
+
+I appreciate you may not like it but it really simplifies things
+generally. Instead of two screens of bash you need to read you've got
+half a dozen attributes to read.
+
+As detailed in the link I already sent it should be quite trivial to
+configure things in a chroot and systemd is expecting to find a pid file
+from somewhere then that will be listed in the initscript or systemd
+unit both of which can be easily customised to look for that file
+directly inside the chroot.
+
+In the case of squid, it's the &quot;pidfile&quot; line of the initscript:
+
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/squid/current/SOURCES/squid.init?view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/squid/current/SOURCES/squid.init?view=markup</A>
+
+See line 12.
+
+Just editing that and including the correct path would have &quot;made
+systemd happy&quot;.
+
+
+Really this is just a (perfectly understandable) lack of understanding.
+I appreciate with any change it takes an amount of effort to learn new
+things. But really sysvinit was not &quot;simple&quot;. There are lots of gotchas
+to watch out for (like a user doing a restart and having the daemon
+inherit the users execution environment which can have many weird
+effects and fallouts and which will cause things to behave differently
+on next boot; and like not knowing if some process is started by an
+initscript or via inittab and why you should use a script vs. inittab
+entry (the latter having some kind of trivial restart logic built in
+being the usual reasoning)). Lots of things come out of the woodwork
+when you really dig in to it. Systemd's not perfect and I accept that
+but it is getting there and the breadth and depth of the documentation
+is still one of the major benefits IMO. sysadmins of tomorrow should
+have a much, much clearer understanding of what's going on on their
+systems and how they work.
+
+YMMV of course :)
+
+Col
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+Le 17/01/2013 10:01, Hugo Pereira Da Costa a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi Davy
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Default GTK+ configuration seems to be &quot;non standard&quot; (gtk-theme-name
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is set to oxygen-gtk and gtk-icon-theme-name is set to oxygen-gtk both
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc/ and /etc/gtk-3.0/settings.ini instead of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> respectively &quot;Adwaita&quot; and &quot;gnome&quot;) causing some glitches (for example,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> when you change the volume with mutimedia keys, the OSD sound volume
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> background image is missing and replaced by an ugly gray)&#8239;;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This (the use of oxygen-gtk) is 'on purpose', to have a consistent look
+</I>and feel across DE, and across toolkits.
+&gt;<i> Now, there might indeed exist rendering bugs with oxygen-gtk + gnome.
+</I>They deserve a bug report (so that I can fix them, on the 'upstream'
+oxygen-gtk side. Either at <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/,">https://bugs.mageia.org/,</A> or (even better) at
+bugs.kde.org. Product being oxygen, and component gtk2-engine or
+gtk3-engine, depending on which is the underlying toolkit. Screenshots
+also appreciated.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hugo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Ok, I will do it tonight...
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+ <B>Davy Defaud</B>
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+<PRE>Le 17/01/2013 09:39, Sander Lepik a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 17.01.2013 01:10, Davy Defaud kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - more annoying, there was no syslog daemon and I had to install rsyslog
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> by myself. It seems that none of the core packages is requiring a syslog
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> daemon (unless systemd is supposed to handle the syslog in a way I'm not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> aware of);
+</I>&gt;<i> FYI: <A HREF="http://www.zarb.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-October/019581.html">http://www.zarb.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-October/019581.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thank you for the hint Sander!
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+ <B>Sandro CAZZANIGA</B>
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+<PRE>hi,
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+I'm asking here before add any changes, but is this page up to date?
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_3_development">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_3_development</A>
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+I thought version freeze has began yet.
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+ <B>Claire Robinson</B>
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+<PRE>On 16/01/13 23:10, Davy Defaud wrote:
+&gt;<i> Dear Mageia packagers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now that it's time for polishing, I'd like to give a feedback on my own
+</I>&gt;<i> experience with mga3 beta1.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've installed a mga3 beta1 x86_64 (DVD GNOME install) as soon as it has
+</I>&gt;<i> been released on a brand new SSD
+</I>
+Hi Davy
+
+Can I tempt you into joining the QA team to help us in pre-release
+testing? We're currently testing beta2 ISOs. I think it's something you
+might enjoy.
+
+If you'd like to get involved please subscribe to qa-discuss mailing
+list [1] and send a Hello. It takes your mageia registered
+email/password to log in rather than username/password.
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+If you then add your details as a tester [2] I'll send you a login and
+some information on what and how to test.
+
+[1] <A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/qa-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/qa-discuss</A>
+[2] <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_ISO_testers">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_ISO_testers</A>
+
+Sadly we get many more people enrol to do testing than actually do any
+testing so we're always looking for interested people.
+
+Thanks
+Claire (MrsB)
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+<PRE>On 01/16/2013 06:40 PM, Luc Menut wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 16/01/2013 15:51, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 16/01/13 14:27, Frank Griffin wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I seem to remember a bug report go by which had something to do with
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> offering package groups during Package Selection that aren't
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> actually on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the install media, and that Thierry reported it fixed. That may be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> related to what I'm seeing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It is probably linked to the RPM group change. Sorry.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> not sure, it may be a problem in this change
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=388363">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=388363</A>
+</I>
+Whatever it is, it is still present in the installer that arrived overnight.
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+ <B>Damien Lallement</B>
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+<PRE>Le 14/01/2013 17:16, Damien Lallement a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please push libburn and libisofs.
+</I>&gt;<i> New version 1.2.6 is a bug fix release and API update:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://libburnia-project.org/wiki/Releases">http://libburnia-project.org/wiki/Releases</A>
+</I>
+Ping #1?
+--
+Damien Lallement
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+ <B>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Freeze%20push%3A%20texstudio%202.5.2&In-Reply-To=%3C50F81716.9020107%40rhul.ac.uk%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: texstudio 2.5.2">pierre-malo.denielou at rhul.ac.uk
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+ <I>Thu Jan 17 16:21:58 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>On 16/01/13 00:45, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou wrote:
+&gt;<i> Please push texstudio, which I updated to version 2.5.2.
+</I>&gt;<i> Upstream says that it is a bug fix release.
+</I>
+ping?
+
+I forgot to copy-paste the changelog:
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+&#183; new %BEGIN_FOLD ... %END_FOLD comment to mark arbitrary regions as
+foldable
+&#183; add support to display CJK and Cyrillic in PDF viewer
+&#183; increased maximum possible tab width to 32
+&#183; fix basic input method support
+&#183; fix crash when saving as an already open file
+&#183; fix viewer might change size because of long status messages
+&#183; changed shortcuts for next/prev document to Ctrl+PgDown/Up
+&#183; several small corrections
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+ <B>Maurice Batey</B>
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+<PRE>On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:10:35 +0100, Davy Defaud wrote:
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+&gt;<i> I've also noticed that the installer hasn't automatically proposed GRUB2
+</I>&gt;<i> as the default bootloader, whereas my root partition wasn't accessible
+</I>&gt;<i> from GRUB legacy and I had no independent ext3 /boot. Of course, this
+</I>&gt;<i> shouldn't be a problem if GRUB2 becomes the default bootloader for the
+</I>&gt;<i> final mga3...
+</I>
+Defaulting to GRUB2 would likely confuse many newcomers to Linux, so -
+at least for the time being - I hope it will not be the default**.
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+Those who *know* that they need GRUB2 would still be able to get it.
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+ (** Except where the installer detects that the machine *must use*
+GRUB2, which can then be flagged to the user. )
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+--
+/\/\aurice
+ (Retired in Surrey, UK) Registered Linux User #487649
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+Please let in firefox-aurora.
+It doesn't impact anything in the distro and nothing depends on this package,.
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+<PRE>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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+<A HREF="http://docteam.mageia.nl/en/MCC/content/index.html">http://docteam.mageia.nl/en/MCC/content/index.html</A>
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+and tell us whether you see any mistakes.
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+We'd like to correct them before this manual goes into Mageia 3.
+
+Thanks :)
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+(btw, we know there are still pages that need to be written)
+
+Marja
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+please push maven-jaxb2-plugin this allow it to build against new
+maven/java7 ( important rpm we can't get rid of )
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+Regards,
+D.
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+<PRE>Le 17/01/2013 21:55, D.Morgan a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> please push maven-jaxb2-plugin this allow it to build against new
+</I>&gt;<i> maven/java7 ( important rpm we can't get rid of )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> D.
+</I>
+done
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+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A>
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+please push new abbot, this new version only add build fixes with java7.
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+<PRE>Le 17/01/2013 17:36, Maurice Batey a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:10:35 +0100, Davy Defaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've also noticed that the installer hasn't automatically proposed GRUB2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as the default bootloader, whereas my root partition wasn't accessible
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> from GRUB legacy and I had no independent ext3 /boot. Of course, this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shouldn't be a problem if GRUB2 becomes the default bootloader for the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> final mga3...
+</I>&gt;<i> Defaulting to GRUB2 would likely confuse many newcomers to Linux, so -
+</I>&gt;<i> at least for the time being - I hope it will not be the default**.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Those who *know* that they need GRUB2 would still be able to get it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (** Except where the installer detects that the machine *must use*
+</I>&gt;<i> GRUB2, which can then be flagged to the user. )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+So did the swith from LiLo to GRUB...
+The old GRUB version you still prefer is now called GRUB legacy, I guess
+you understand what that means: no further developement, a dead end !
+GRUB2 is the way to go despite its far more complicated configuration,
+it has really nice modern features. And the decision to use it as the
+default bootloader for Mageia&#8239;3 was taken several months ago :
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/FeatureMageia3_Review">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/FeatureMageia3_Review</A>
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:Grub2AsDefault">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:Grub2AsDefault</A>
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+<PRE>On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:58 AM, D.Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> please push xmlrpc this is a merge between xmlrpc3 rpm and xmlrpc ( we
+</I>&gt;<i> don't need version 2 anymore so no need to have 2 rpms )
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+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> D.
+</I>
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 18 janvier 2013 02:00:11, Davy Defaud a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> So did the swith from LiLo to GRUB...
+</I>&gt;<i> The old GRUB version you still prefer is now called GRUB legacy, I guess
+</I>&gt;<i> you understand what that means: no further developement, a dead end !
+</I>&gt;<i> GRUB2 is the way to go despite its far more complicated configuration,
+</I>&gt;<i> it has really nice modern features. And the decision to use it as the
+</I>&gt;<i> default bootloader for Mageia&#8239;3 was taken several months ago :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/FeatureMageia3_Review">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/FeatureMageia3_Review</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:Grub2AsDefault">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:Grub2AsDefault</A>
+</I>
+Another interest is Ubuntu which already use Grub2.
+I had to add a Mandriva or Mageia (I don't remember) on a PC with Ubuntu.
+It was not easy to make them work with a double boot.
+Uniformity of the boot loader is necessary.
+It will be easier to help people migrating from Ubuntu to Mageia.
+
+--
+Pierre Jarillon - <A HREF="http://pjarillon.free.fr/">http://pjarillon.free.fr/</A>
+Vice-pr&#233;sident de l'ABUL : <A HREF="http://abul.org">http://abul.org</A>
+Microsoft est &#224; l'informatique ce que McDonald est &#224; la gastronomie
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+<PRE>Le 17/01/2013 00:23, Johnny A. Solbu a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Thursday 17. January 2013 00.10, Davy Defaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Last thing, I think it would be smart to install or suggest, some
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packages that could be considered essential to any kind of installation
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (at least those connected to a network, i.e. 99.9%). For instance:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - ssh.
+</I>&gt;<i> As long as you're not talking about the ssh server. Installing a server by default where one can login is insecure!
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyone having a need for a ssh server is capable of installing it manually, one way or another.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+You're right, I forgot that some people don't even know what is SSH...
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+<PRE>Le 17/01/2013 14:27, Claire Robinson a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 16/01/13 23:10, Davy Defaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Dear Mageia packagers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Now that it's time for polishing, I'd like to give a feedback on my own
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> experience with mga3 beta1.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've installed a mga3 beta1 x86_64 (DVD GNOME install) as soon as it has
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> been released on a brand new SSD
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Davy
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can I tempt you into joining the QA team to help us in pre-release
+</I>&gt;<i> testing? We're currently testing beta2 ISOs. I think it's something you
+</I>&gt;<i> might enjoy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you'd like to get involved please subscribe to qa-discuss mailing
+</I>&gt;<i> list [1] and send a Hello. It takes your mageia registered
+</I>&gt;<i> email/password to log in rather than username/password.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you then add your details as a tester [2] I'll send you a login and
+</I>&gt;<i> some information on what and how to test.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [1] <A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/qa-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/qa-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> [2] <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_ISO_testers">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_ISO_testers</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sadly we get many more people enrol to do testing than actually do any
+</I>&gt;<i> testing so we're always looking for interested people.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i> Claire (MrsB)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hi temptress ;)
+
+If you don't need too much reactivity, I could be your man.
+I've always hesitated to become a packager because I was afraid of not
+being able to a be reactive enough.
+But give some time to QA, when I have some, should be doable...
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+<PRE>Le 18/01/2013 02:23, Pierre Jarillon a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Another interest is Ubuntu which already use Grub2.
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+Not only Ubuntu, but also Fedora, openSUSE, Mint, Arch Linux... and even
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+<PRE>On Fri, 2013-01-18 at 02:39 +0100, Davy Defaud wrote:
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+&gt;<i> You're right, I forgot that some people don't even know what is SSH...
+</I>Doesn't matter in any case, as an ssh server won't be reachable by
+default unless you punch a hole in the firewall, which _is_ set up by a
+default install...
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+&gt;<i> Pierre Jarillon composed:
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> Another interest is Ubuntu which already use Grub2.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Not only Ubuntu, but also Fedora, openSUSE, Mint, Arch Linux... and even
+</I>&gt;<i> the next Debian Wheezy!
+</I>
+I have nothing against Grub2 being available or even preferred, as long as
+I'm not forced to chose between Grub2 and no bootloader at all. Grub2 remains
+immature and overly complicated, with inconsistent docs scattered about, and
+it's largely inconsistent with Grub Legacy and its docs.
+
+I have more than a dozen multiboot systems with Mandriva, Mageia, Fedora,
+Debian, Knoppix, Gentoo, *buntu and openSUSE. On all of them I maintain
+legacy BIOS MBR code exclusively, and reserve the rest of the boot track for
+my own use. As Grub2 devs all but insist Grub2 must be installed to the MBR,
+it is not yet a viable option for me as a Grub Legacy replacement, or even
+adjunct. I do allow *buntu to install Grub2 to its / partition in order to
+watch development progress of Grub2, but in no other case is Grub2 now or for
+the foreseeable future going to be on any other / or /boot or any MBR of mine.
+
+On the many systems not requiring features of Grub2 lacking in Grub Legacy,
+the complications and requirements of Grub2 are unwarranted. Grub Legacy
+maintenance absence is a non-issue, as it just works, as long as no attempt
+is made to use it for anything it doesn't support. So if Grub Legacy gets
+dropped from a distro without allowing an option to install no bootloader at
+all, I drop the distro. Likely there are other multibooters who feel the same
+way.
+--
+&quot;The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
+words are persuasive.&quot; Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
+
+ Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
+
+Felix Miata *** <A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/">http://fm.no-ip.com/</A>
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+<PRE>On Friday 18. January 2013 03.41, Liam R E Quin wrote:
+&gt;<i> Doesn't matter in any case, as an ssh server won't be reachable by
+</I>&gt;<i> default unless you punch a hole in the firewall, which is set up by a
+</I>&gt;<i> default install...
+</I>
+Untill someone need to setup samba, and does what they always do in Windows to make it work, disable the firewall all together.
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+I still believe that a login server is something the user should install manually if they need it.
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+ <B>Anne Nicolas</B>
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+<PRE>Le 18/01/2013 01:57, D.Morgan a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:58 AM, D.Morgan&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> please push xmlrpc this is a merge between xmlrpc3 rpm and xmlrpc ( we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> don't need version 2 anymore so no need to have 2 rpms )
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> D.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ping
+</I>done
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+ <B>Anne Nicolas</B>
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+<PRE>Le 18/01/2013 01:24, D.Morgan a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> please push new abbot, this new version only add build fixes with java7.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> D.
+</I>
+done
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+ <B>You-Cheng Hsieh</B>
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+<PRE>2013/1/18 Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> here
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://docteam.mageia.nl/en/MCC/content/index.html">http://docteam.mageia.nl/en/MCC/content/index.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and tell us whether you see any mistakes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We'd like to correct them before this manual goes into Mageia 3.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Please add input method info in localedrake page.
+<A HREF="http://docteam.mageia.nl/installer/content/selectCountry.html">http://docteam.mageia.nl/installer/content/selectCountry.html</A>
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+ <B>Claire Robinson</B>
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+<PRE>On 18/01/13 02:02, Davy Defaud wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 17/01/2013 14:27, Claire Robinson a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 16/01/13 23:10, Davy Defaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Dear Mageia packagers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Now that it's time for polishing, I'd like to give a feedback on my own
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> experience with mga3 beta1.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I've installed a mga3 beta1 x86_64 (DVD GNOME install) as soon as it has
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> been released on a brand new SSD
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi Davy
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can I tempt you into joining the QA team to help us in pre-release
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> testing? We're currently testing beta2 ISOs. I think it's something you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> might enjoy.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you'd like to get involved please subscribe to qa-discuss mailing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> list [1] and send a Hello. It takes your mageia registered
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> email/password to log in rather than username/password.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you then add your details as a tester [2] I'll send you a login and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> some information on what and how to test.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [1] <A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/qa-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/qa-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [2] <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_ISO_testers">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_ISO_testers</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sadly we get many more people enrol to do testing than actually do any
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> testing so we're always looking for interested people.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Claire (MrsB)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi temptress ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you don't need too much reactivity, I could be your man.
+</I>&gt;<i> I've always hesitated to become a packager because I was afraid of not
+</I>&gt;<i> being able to a be reactive enough.
+</I>&gt;<i> But give some time to QA, when I have some, should be doable...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Davy
+</I>
+There are two main things we do in QA. We test the ISOs before they are
+released to try and find any bugs before they are sent to the mirrors.
+We also test every update made to stable releases.
+
+See here for more info: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_Team">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_Team</A>
+
+We're currently in the middle of testing for 3beta2, waiting for a 2nd
+build at the moment, if you'd like to get involved in that. It tends to
+be a mad week of long days.
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+Our 'bread and butter' work is in testing updates though.
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+See you on the list! (or IRC)
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+Claire (MrsB)
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+Hello, Could somebody push ruby 1.9.3-p374 into cauldron? As said in its changelog, it fixed randomly SEGV problem regarding rails, and it suggested to be updated by upstream, if currenty p362 is being used, which is the current case for cauldron. Thanks.
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+Hello, Could amaork 2.7.0 stable be pushed into cauldron? We target at 2.7.x for mga3, and we currently have 2.6 beta version in cauldron. Thanks.
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: maven-changes-plugin">dmorganec at gmail.com
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+<PRE>hi,
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+please push maven-changes-plugin this new versions compiles with maven
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+Regards,
+D.
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+<PRE>Le 18/01/2013 10:32, fundawang a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello, Could somebody push ruby 1.9.3-p374 into cauldron? As said in its changelog, it fixed randomly SEGV problem regarding rails, and it suggested to be updated by upstream, if currenty p362 is being used, which is the current case for cauldron. Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>done
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+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A>
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+<PRE>Le 18/01/2013 10:43, D.Morgan a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> please push maven-changes-plugin this new versions compiles with maven
+</I>&gt;<i> and Java7, and fixes use of new xmlrpc name change.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> D.
+</I>done
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+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A>
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+<PRE>Hi...
+
+I have a curious problem...
+I have a box with tow drives, the first one has Windows7 and the second
+Mageia Cauldron.
+I tweaked the W7 bootloader to add an entry for the second drive with EasyBCD
+(it gets wrong the hd1,1 part for its grub entry, it shoud be hd1,0, but that
+is another story...).
+
+I can boot Mageia from W7 bootloader, so my linux disk is sdb, and win
+is sda. Root is right as it should be, /dev/sdb1:
+
+direwolf:~# lsscsi
+[0:0:0:0] cd/dvd HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH22NP20 2.00 /dev/sr0
+[2:0:0:0] disk ATA ST3400833AS 3.AA /dev/sda
+[3:0:0:0] disk ATA ST3250310AS 3.AA /dev/sdb
+
+direwolf:~# df
+Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
+rootfs rootfs 244G 6.1G 226G 3% /
+devtmpfs devtmpfs 1.6G 0 1.6G 0% /dev
+tmpfs tmpfs 1.6G 87k 1.6G 1% /dev/shm
+tmpfs tmpfs 1.6G 877k 1.6G 1% /run
+/dev/sdb1 ext4 244G 6.1G 226G 3% /
+tmpfs tmpfs 1.6G 0 1.6G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup
+tmpfs tmpfs 1.6G 13k 1.6G 1% /tmp
+/dev/sda2 fuseblk 400G 134G 267G 34% /media/win
+
+I rewrote GRUBs device.map like:
+
+(hd0) /dev/sda
+(hd1) /dev/sdb
+
+and menu.lst to use (hd1,0) as root.
+
+But every time I install/update a kernel, GRUBs files get rewritten to invert
+the disk mapping, so (hd0) is sdb, and menu.lst changed to boot from (hd0,0),
+and install.sh to write grub on hd0.
+But that settings do no work on boot, after EasyBCD chainloads to second drive,
+it is still the _second_ drive...and grub runs to hd0 to look for kernel/initrd...
+AFAIK, the map hd0-&gt;sdb is only usefull for grub installation, once the boot
+sector is stored it is just something like 'ask bios which is the first drive',
+so it fails.
+
+Why do bootloader-utils (I think?) change device.map, menu.lst settings ?
+Why forces the boot disk to be always hd0 ?
+Is there anyway to tell them I dont want to change anything ?
+
+TIA
+
+PD: is there an easier way to tell 'boot from the second drive' in the
+Win7 boot menu than using EasyBCD (I think it is doing some things not so well,
+like numbering first partition in second drive as hd1,1 instead of hd1,0...).
+
+--
+J.A. Magallon &lt;jamagallon()ono!com&gt; \ Winter is coming...
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+ <B>Funda Wang</B>
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+Regards.
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+[1]: <A HREF="http://drupal.org/SA-CORE-2013-001">http://drupal.org/SA-CORE-2013-001</A>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Feedback on Mageia 3 beta1">maurice at bcs.org.uk
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+ <I>Fri Jan 18 13:38:43 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:00:11 +0100, Davy Defaud wrote:
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+&gt;<i> GRUB2 is the way to go despite its far more complicated configuration,
+</I>&gt;<i> it has really nice modern features. And the decision to use it as the
+</I>&gt;<i> default bootloader for Mageia&#8239;3 was taken several months ago
+</I>
+ So be it, but the Mageia-3 installer will provide an *option* to use
+GRUB Legacy, won't it?
+
+One of the things that attracted me to Mageia was that it was
+staying with GRUB Legacy!
+
+--
+/\/\aurice
+
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+ <B>Maurice Batey</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Grub2%20vs.%20Grub%20Legacy%20in%20M3%20%28was%3A%20Feedback%20on%0A%09Mageia%203%20beta1%29&In-Reply-To=%3Cpan.2013.01.18.12.42.13.659448%40bcs.org.uk%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Grub2 vs. Grub Legacy in M3 (was: Feedback on Mageia 3 beta1)">maurice at bcs.org.uk
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+ <I>Fri Jan 18 13:42:13 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:09:41 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
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+&gt;<i> As Grub2 devs all but insist Grub2 must be installed to the MBR,
+</I>
+ I had overlooked that restriction. Another black mark for GRUB2...
+
+&gt;<i> it is not yet a viable option for me as a Grub Legacy replacement,
+</I>
+ +1
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+--
+/\/\aurice
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+ <B>Maurice Batey</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Grub2%20vs.%20Grub%20Legacy%20in%20M3%20%28was%3A%20Feedback%20on%0A%09Mageia%203%20beta1%29&In-Reply-To=%3Cpan.2013.01.18.12.39.41.730412%40bcs.org.uk%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Grub2 vs. Grub Legacy in M3 (was: Feedback on Mageia 3 beta1)">maurice at bcs.org.uk
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+ <I>Fri Jan 18 13:39:41 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:09:41 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
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+&gt;<i> I have nothing against Grub2 being available or even preferred, as long as
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not forced to chose between Grub2 and no bootloader at all. Grub2 remains
+</I>&gt;<i> immature and overly complicated, with inconsistent docs scattered about, and
+</I>&gt;<i> it's largely inconsistent with Grub Legacy and its docs.
+</I>
+ +1
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+--
+/\/\aurice
+
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+<PRE>On 18 January 2013 12:42, Maurice Batey &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:09:41 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As Grub2 devs all but insist Grub2 must be installed to the MBR,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I had overlooked that restriction. Another black mark for GRUB2...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it is not yet a viable option for me as a Grub Legacy replacement,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> /\/\aurice
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+The above reason don't apply to me that much, however, my experience
+with grub2 and the general installation of other OS's ala Fedora 18 i
+have found the process to be far more complex the Mageia's offering. I
+feel that we should stay with grub-legacy until such a point where the
+install looks as smooth as it does with grub-legacy.
+
+&gt;<i>From an artwork point of view, I find it to also be a blocker for this
+</I>as we still don't have the background for MGA3, and I don't know if we
+have anyone who can do the processing required for grub2....
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+<PRE>Hello,
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+It seems that libfreeswitch is requring devel libs, is it wanted?
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+$ rpm -qp --requires libfreeswitch1-1.2.3-14.mga3.i586.rpm |grep devel
+devel(libcrypt)
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+ <B>Oliver Burger</B>
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+<PRE>Am 15.01.2013 16:15, schrieb Oliver Burger:
+&gt;<i> Sorry for the trouble, but I didn't get to do it in time (and Anne told
+</I>&gt;<i> me on IRC, this would be possible).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I updated the gis software stack, because parts of it were quite out of
+</I>&gt;<i> date.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please submit these packages in the following build order:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> geos (new minor version)
+</I>&gt;<i> gdal (rebuild)
+</I>&gt;<i> postgis (new version, 1.5 was really out of date)
+</I>&gt;<i> grass (rebuild)
+</I>&gt;<i> libspatialite (new package needed by new qgis)
+</I>&gt;<i> libspatialindex (new package needed by new qgis)
+</I>&gt;<i> qgis (somebody already updated it in svn but never built it successfully)
+</I>&gt;<i> mapserver (new version)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> They all built locally on an up to date cauldron, so it shouldn't make
+</I>&gt;<i> any problems. If it does, just contact me.
+</I>
+ping
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thx,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+--
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+<PRE>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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+On 18/01/2013 09:45, You-Cheng Hsieh wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2013/1/18 Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> here
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://docteam.mageia.nl/en/MCC/content/index.html">http://docteam.mageia.nl/en/MCC/content/index.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and tell us whether you see any mistakes.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We'd like to correct them before this manual goes into Mageia 3.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please add input method info in localedrake page.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://docteam.mageia.nl/installer/content/selectCountry.html">http://docteam.mageia.nl/installer/content/selectCountry.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+Thanks for the reminder :)
+
+Can you please check it?
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+<A HREF="http://docteam.mageia.nl/en/MCC/content/localedrake.html#input_method">http://docteam.mageia.nl/en/MCC/content/localedrake.html#input_method</A>
+
+If it is OK, I'll save it more permanently
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
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+<PRE>&#22312; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 05:14:51 +0800, Colin Guthrie
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;&#23531;&#36947;:
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and AL13N at 16/01/13 20:10 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Op donderdag 17 januari 2013 01:23:12 schreef Kira:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#22312; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:49:01 +0800, Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cooker at solbu.net</A>&gt;&#23531;&#36947;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Wednesday 16. January 2013 16.29, Kira wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Today I use the power button to force shutdown and boot,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I used to do that too, untill I stumbled across a tip about the SysRq
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> key.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Uses">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Uses</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Now I only use the power button when the SysRq sequence ain't working.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> In my cases, all system hotkey don't work. I have tried
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> X won't restart. Maybe this should be noted with further testing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> iinm Ctrl+Alt+Backspace is now disabled by default in X?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You need to hit it twice to kill X these days I think.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Yeah, twice to kill X.
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+I had tried the update and everything works now.
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+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please let in firefox-aurora.
+</I>&gt;<i> It doesn't impact anything in the distro and nothing depends on this package,.
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> i was planning on removing xm and xend support.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> perhaps closer should be to find out what libvirtd isn't working?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> of course, i did ask to maintain this, but it isn't easy for me to actually
+</I>&gt;<i> test it :-(. i had planned to test this at work, but other work has made me
+</I>&gt;<i> unable to actually run it for a while...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> anyway, i had to patch some stuff about xenconsole, but maybe i should take a
+</I>&gt;<i> closer look into what other patches fedora has. well, i should at least try to
+</I>&gt;<i> find some hardware i can use for this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> also, i had planned on dropping internal qemu, but it upstream told me to wait
+</I>&gt;<i> for the next major version.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> if anyone can help me out with xen, i'd appreciate it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> @tv:
+</I>&gt;<i> - did you manually make another boot entry in grub with the hypervisor as
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel and the kernel as module and the initrd as another module? (that is
+</I>&gt;<i> necessary)
+</I>
+no since that's automatic with grub2
+
+&gt;<i> - could you check if the xl command does work?
+</I>
+&quot;xl list&quot; works but not libvirt users
+
+&gt;<i> - could you possibly give logs for libvirtd (and maybe do: 'systemctl list-
+</I>&gt;<i> units' ?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> thanks a bunch
+</I>
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at localhost</A> ~]# service libvirtd status
+Redirecting to /bin/systemctl status libvirtd.service
+libvirtd.service - Virtualization daemon
+ Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/libvirtd.service; enabled)
+ Active: active (running) since Fri, 2013-01-18 16:56:53 CET; 12min ago
+ Main PID: 867 (libvirtd)
+ CGroup: name=systemd:/system/libvirtd.service
+ &#9500; 867 /usr/sbin/libvirtd
+ &#9492; 1214 dnsmasq
+--conf-file=/var/lib/libvirt/dnsmasq/default.conf
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+Jan 18 17:01:28 localhost libvirtd[867]: Unable to issue hypervisor
+ioctl 3166208: Permission non accord&#233;e
+Jan 18 17:01:28 localhost libvirtd[867]: Unable to issue hypervisor
+ioctl 3166208: Permission non accord&#233;e
+Jan 18 17:01:28 localhost libvirtd[867]: Unable to issue hypervisor
+ioctl 3166208: Permission non accord&#233;e
+Jan 18 17:01:28 localhost libvirtd[867]: Unable to issue hypervisor
+ioctl 3166208: Permission non accord&#233;e
+Jan 18 17:01:28 localhost libvirtd[867]: erreur interne impossible de
+se connecter &#224; Xen
+Jan 18 17:01:28 localhost libvirtd[867]: unable to connect to
+'localhost:8000': Connexion refus&#233;e
+Jan 18 17:01:58 localhost libvirtd[867]: No response from client
+0x8ec290 after 5 keepalive messages in ...conds
+Jan 18 17:04:53 localhost libvirtd[867]: erreur interne impossible de
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+Jan 18 17:04:53 localhost libvirtd[867]: unable to connect to
+'localhost:8000': Connexion refus&#233;e
+Jan 18 17:04:53 localhost libvirtd[867]: End of file while reading
+data: Erreur d'entr&#233;e/sortie
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+# systemctl list-units|grep xen
+proc-xen.mount
+ loaded active mounted /proc/xen
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+ loaded failed failed LSB: Start/stop
+xenstored and xenconsoled
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+<PRE>So we will have firefox 17.0.2, firefeox-19.0-beta, and firefox-20.0-aurora, but no firefox 18.0?
+
+------------------ Original ------------------
+From: &quot;Thierry Vignaud&quot;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;;
+Date: Fri, Jan 18, 2013 11:51 PM
+To: &quot;Mageia development mailing-list&quot;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;;
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+Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push: firefox-aurora
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+On 17 January 2013 18:21, Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please let in firefox-aurora.
+</I>&gt;<i> It doesn't impact anything in the distro and nothing depends on this package,.
+</I>
+
+ping?
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+ <B>Bruno Cornec</B>
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+<PRE>AL13N said on Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 08:27:46PM +0100:
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+&gt;<i> Op maandag 7 januari 2013 15:39:30 schreef Eatdirt:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 10/23/2012 02:53 PM, Bruno Cornec wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Helo,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I'm in the process of redeploying automatically my firewall machine,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; using Mageia. For that I'd like to have a very minimal install.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; However, I'm ending up with 580 packages, among them a lot of X11
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; content, whereas I want a text base install only.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; +1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I agree with this, we have some &quot;bugs&quot; in package dependencies. Please,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; don't hesitate to report them on bugzilla for the next bugfest!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We should also try to fix them. I reported this one months ago, Colin
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ???? :)))
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7960">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7960</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i'm always up for lowering the minimum install.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> a while ago, i did some work on that, but they are not easy.
+</I>&gt;<i> in particular the X libs are pretty difficult to get out.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I don't know who did that great job, but I'd like to congratulate this
+community, as with the beta of Mageia 3 I'm now able to install a very
+minimal distro for a firewall with 340 packages &quot;only&quot; without doing any
+urpme in my postinstall script !! Very happy about that, please keep up
+the good work !
+
+Greetings,
+Bruno.
+--
+Open Source &amp; Linux Profession Lead EMEA <A HREF="http://opensource.hp.com">http://opensource.hp.com</A>
+EMEA Open Source HPISC Chief Technologist <A HREF="http://hpintelco.net">http://hpintelco.net</A>
+FLOSS projects: <A HREF="http://mondorescue.org">http://mondorescue.org</A> <A HREF="http://project-builder.org">http://project-builder.org</A>
+Musique ancienne? <A HREF="http://www.musique-ancienne.org">http://www.musique-ancienne.org</A> <A HREF="http://www.medieval.org">http://www.medieval.org</A>
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+&gt;<i> So we will have firefox 17.0.2, firefeox-19.0-beta, and firefox-20.0-aurora, but no firefox 18.0?
+</I>
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+<PRE>On 18/01/13 18:19, Bruno Cornec wrote:
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+&gt;<i> I don't know who did that great job, but I'd like to congratulate this
+</I>&gt;<i> community, as with the beta of Mageia 3 I'm now able to install a very
+</I>&gt;<i> minimal distro for a firewall with 340 packages &quot;only&quot; without doing any
+</I>&gt;<i> urpme in my postinstall script !! Very happy about that, please keep up
+</I>&gt;<i> the good work !
+</I>
+YEAA! Mageia got the systemd-Colin Machine that seriously rocks!!!!!
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+<PRE>On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:09:41 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
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+&gt;<i> As Grub2 devs all but insist Grub2 must be installed to the MBR,
+</I>
+ Thus preventing the use of such bootloadcers as GAG, and Extipl. so in
+that respect GRUB2 is a retrograde step.
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+/\/\aurice
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+ <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B>
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+<PRE>It's a bugfix only release:
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+* fix build issues with clang
+* fix building of master server
+* add teamcolortext/teamcolorfrags vars for disabling team-colored game and
+frag messages if desired
+* workaround for minimap not showing properly if the map changes while the game
+is minimized
+* adjusted server browser columns width to avoid twitching
+* fix ctftkpenalty not working
+* fix issues with the @ character appearing in names
+* fix blob shadows showing on the underside of geometry
+* fix kickbans not banning
+* fix clip/waypoint bugs in damnation
+* fix clip on phosgene and nucleus
+* fix map credits in eternal_valley
+* fix noclip causing shadows
+* bump score limit in collect modes to 50
+* fix spawnwait handling in server
+* fix ctf map listing
+* include missing server-init.cfg
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+--
+Juancho
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+<PRE>Le 18/01/2013 22:20, Juan Luis Baptiste a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> It's a bugfix only release:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * fix build issues with clang
+</I>&gt;<i> * fix building of master server
+</I>&gt;<i> * add teamcolortext/teamcolorfrags vars for disabling team-colored game and
+</I>&gt;<i> frag messages if desired
+</I>&gt;<i> * workaround for minimap not showing properly if the map changes while the game
+</I>&gt;<i> is minimized
+</I>&gt;<i> * adjusted server browser columns width to avoid twitching
+</I>&gt;<i> * fix ctftkpenalty not working
+</I>&gt;<i> * fix issues with the @ character appearing in names
+</I>&gt;<i> * fix blob shadows showing on the underside of geometry
+</I>&gt;<i> * fix kickbans not banning
+</I>&gt;<i> * fix clip/waypoint bugs in damnation
+</I>&gt;<i> * fix clip on phosgene and nucleus
+</I>&gt;<i> * fix map credits in eternal_valley
+</I>&gt;<i> * fix noclip causing shadows
+</I>&gt;<i> * bump score limit in collect modes to 50
+</I>&gt;<i> * fix spawnwait handling in server
+</I>&gt;<i> * fix ctf map listing
+</I>&gt;<i> * include missing server-init.cfg
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Juancho
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+What a lot of fix for a good game :)
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+ <B>David W. Hodgins</B>
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+<PRE>On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:06:00 -0500, JA Magall&#243;n &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jamagallon at ono.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Why do bootloader-utils (I think?) change device.map, menu.lst settings ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Why forces the boot disk to be always hd0 ?
+</I>
+The bootloader-utils assume the sdb will be hd0 at boot time, which
+is the case on my system.
+
+&gt;<i> Is there anyway to tell them I dont want to change anything ?
+</I>
+Have you tried making the file read only? No idea if that will work.
+
+&gt;<i> PD: is there an easier way to tell 'boot from the second drive' in the
+</I>&gt;<i> Win7 boot menu than using EasyBCD (I think it is doing some things not so well,
+</I>&gt;<i> like numbering first partition in second drive as hd1,1 instead of hd1,0...).
+</I>
+I use f8 on my system, during boot, to get to a boot menu, then
+select the second drive (my bios remembers the last selection,
+and keeps it, on reboots).
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+When I select the second drive, as far as grub is concerned, it is
+hd0, while as far as the kernel is concerned, it's sdb.
+
+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+<PRE>Le Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:19:24 +0000
+Maurice Batey &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>&gt; a &#233;crit:
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:09:41 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As Grub2 devs all but insist Grub2 must be installed to the MBR,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thus preventing the use of such bootloadcers as GAG, and Extipl. so in
+</I>&gt;<i> that respect GRUB2 is a retrograde step.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> /\/\aurice
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
++1
+
+Same philosophy as gnome3 : only me.
+My choice is the goof choice according to myself (Im a dev so I can't be
+wrong)
+Same philosophy as Apple : users (like people) are children ! Elite
+have to show them the &#171; good way &#187;.
+
+Alleluia !
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+--
+A.Sala&#252;n
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+<PRE>On 18/01/13 21:34, David W. Hodgins wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When I select the second drive, as far as grub is concerned, it is
+</I>&gt;<i> hd0, while as far as the kernel is concerned, it's sdb.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards, Dave Hodgins
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Try swapping your SATA data cables over.
+The sda / sdb thing is determined by the detection order i.e. SATA
+channel IIANM.
+
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+<PRE>On 18/01/13 21:50, Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:19:24 +0000
+</I>&gt;<i> Maurice Batey &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>&gt; a &#233;crit:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:09:41 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As Grub2 devs all but insist Grub2 must be installed to the MBR,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thus preventing the use of such bootloadcers as GAG, and Extipl. so in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that respect GRUB2 is a retrograde step.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /\/\aurice
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Same philosophy as gnome3 : only me.
+</I>&gt;<i> My choice is the goof choice according to myself (Im a dev so I can't be
+</I>&gt;<i> wrong)
+</I>&gt;<i> Same philosophy as Apple : users (like people) are children ! Elite
+</I>&gt;<i> have to show them the &#171; good way &#187;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Alleluia !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+All FUD
+
+Have any of you actually installed grub2 in Cauldron and read
+/usr/share/doc/grub2/README.Mageia and then actually tried it?
+
+This can be done without upsetting your grub legacy installation in any way.
+
+I have been using grub2 with Mageia since Mga1 and multibooting a dozen
+or more distros including grub legacy and grub2.
+
+I am currently running Cauldron with only grub2 installed and NOT to the
+MBR.
+
+I have just net installed current cauldron (so really mga3b2) with grub2
+(not in MBR) and can multiboot straight into it.
+(at present there is an issue with the installer so the install just
+needs to be aborted at the bootloader install stage to do this)
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8742">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8742</A>
+
+As regards the background - grub2 picks up the current default Mageia
+artwork from the system on install, so this should be automatic.
+
+All these fears are, AFAICT unfounded.
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 18 januari 2013 17:14:28 schreef Thierry Vignaud:
+&gt;<i> On 16 January 2013 21:02, AL13N &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i was planning on removing xm and xend support.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; perhaps closer should be to find out what libvirtd isn't working?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; of course, i did ask to maintain this, but it isn't easy for me to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; actually
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; test it :-(. i had planned to test this at work, but other work has made
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; me
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; unable to actually run it for a while...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; anyway, i had to patch some stuff about xenconsole, but maybe i should
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; take a closer look into what other patches fedora has. well, i should at
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; least try to find some hardware i can use for this.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; also, i had planned on dropping internal qemu, but it upstream told me to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; wait for the next major version.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; if anyone can help me out with xen, i'd appreciate it.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; @tv:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - did you manually make another boot entry in grub with the hypervisor as
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; kernel and the kernel as module and the initrd as another module? (that is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; necessary)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> no since that's automatic with grub2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - could you check if the xl command does work?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;xl list&quot; works but not libvirt users
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - could you possibly give logs for libvirtd (and maybe do: 'systemctl
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; list-
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; units' ?)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; thanks a bunch
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at localhost</A> ~]# service libvirtd status
+</I>&gt;<i> Redirecting to /bin/systemctl status libvirtd.service
+</I>&gt;<i> libvirtd.service - Virtualization daemon
+</I>&gt;<i> Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/libvirtd.service; enabled)
+</I>&gt;<i> Active: active (running) since Fri, 2013-01-18 16:56:53 CET; 12min ago Main
+</I>&gt;<i> PID: 867 (libvirtd)
+</I>&gt;<i> CGroup: name=systemd:/system/libvirtd.service
+</I>&gt;<i> &#9500; 867 /usr/sbin/libvirtd
+</I>&gt;<i> &#9492; 1214 dnsmasq
+</I>&gt;<i> --conf-file=/var/lib/libvirt/dnsmasq/default.conf
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Jan 18 17:01:28 localhost libvirtd[867]: Unable to issue hypervisor
+</I>&gt;<i> ioctl 3166208: Permission non accord&#233;e
+</I>&gt;<i> Jan 18 17:01:28 localhost libvirtd[867]: Unable to issue hypervisor
+</I>&gt;<i> ioctl 3166208: Permission non accord&#233;e
+</I>&gt;<i> Jan 18 17:01:28 localhost libvirtd[867]: Unable to issue hypervisor
+</I>&gt;<i> ioctl 3166208: Permission non accord&#233;e
+</I>&gt;<i> Jan 18 17:01:28 localhost libvirtd[867]: Unable to issue hypervisor
+</I>&gt;<i> ioctl 3166208: Permission non accord&#233;e
+</I>&gt;<i> Jan 18 17:01:28 localhost libvirtd[867]: erreur interne impossible de
+</I>&gt;<i> se connecter &#224; Xen
+</I>&gt;<i> Jan 18 17:01:28 localhost libvirtd[867]: unable to connect to
+</I>&gt;<i> 'localhost:8000': Connexion refus&#233;e
+</I>&gt;<i> Jan 18 17:01:58 localhost libvirtd[867]: No response from client
+</I>&gt;<i> 0x8ec290 after 5 keepalive messages in ...conds
+</I>&gt;<i> Jan 18 17:04:53 localhost libvirtd[867]: erreur interne impossible de
+</I>&gt;<i> se connecter &#224; Xen
+</I>&gt;<i> Jan 18 17:04:53 localhost libvirtd[867]: unable to connect to
+</I>&gt;<i> 'localhost:8000': Connexion refus&#233;e
+</I>&gt;<i> Jan 18 17:04:53 localhost libvirtd[867]: End of file while reading
+</I>&gt;<i> data: Erreur d'entr&#233;e/sortie
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> # systemctl list-units|grep xen
+</I>[..]
+
+perhaps libvirtd cannot connect because of some kind of thing not being being
+enabled... i would like to see more of the libvirtd log, from the beginning...
+it seems like there's more earlier logs.
+
+also, perhaps libvirtd might be trying to connect to the server as if it were
+a kvm server... so need more logs and possibly config files.
+
+with xl, can you actually start a VM (para/hvm), that you can get into with
+the xenconsole?
+
+I might soon get a test system meant for virtualisation for personal use
+later... i plan on doing a complete test with it. and try to enable kvm and
+xen at the same time /o\ if that would be possible... (i doubt it)
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+ <B>Barry Jackson</B>
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+<PRE>On 18/01/13 12:38, Maurice Batey wrote:
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+&gt;<i> So be it, but the Mageia-3 installer will provide an *option* to use
+</I>&gt;<i> GRUB Legacy, won't it?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+<PRE>On 2013-01-18 23:04 (GMT) Barry Jackson composed:
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+&gt;<i> All FUD
+</I>
+There's no dispute that upstream Grub2 is more complicated than Grub Legacy,
+differs in several significant respects from Grub Legacy, or that upstream
+strongly recommends against installing it anywhere except on MBR on BIOS systems.
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+&gt;<i> Have any of you actually installed grub2 in Cauldron and read
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/share/doc/grub2/README.Mageia and then actually tried it?
+</I>
+As I wrote up-thread, I have many multiboot systems, and limit Grub2 to
+*buntu installations. The differences in basics between Grub2 &amp; Grub Legacy
+are too many to be tracking what's what and where when 80+ distro
+installations among 12+ systems are involved. That Mageia's Grub2
+implementation may be better than average doesn't interest me. Grub2 as a
+complete rewrite remains v1 software in spite of its version claim, and
+therefore not yet ready for my use.
+--
+&quot;The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
+words are persuasive.&quot; Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
+
+ Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
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+Felix Miata *** <A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/">http://fm.no-ip.com/</A>
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+<PRE>On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:36:07 -0500, Barry Jackson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">zen25000 at zen.co.uk</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On 18/01/13 21:34, David W. Hodgins wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> When I select the second drive, as far as grub is concerned, it is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hd0, while as far as the kernel is concerned, it's sdb.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regards, Dave Hodgins
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Try swapping your SATA data cables over.
+</I>&gt;<i> The sda / sdb thing is determined by the detection order i.e. SATA
+</I>&gt;<i> channel IIANM.
+</I>
+I should have added, that I'm doing this intentionally. I currently
+have grub2 on sda, while qa testing the Mageia 3 beta 2 iso images,
+with grub legacy on sdb for my Mageia 2 installation, just in case
+there are problems with Mageia 3 or grub2 detecting or booting my
+Mageia 2 installation.
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+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+<PRE>Hi,
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+please push eclipse-jgit, this is a fixed version that compiles
+against latest eclipse ( needed to fix the whole eclipse stack )
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+Regards,
+D.
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+<PRE>D.Morgan skrev 19.1.2013 02:34:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> please push eclipse-jgit, this is a fixed version that compiles
+</I>&gt;<i> against latest eclipse ( needed to fix the whole eclipse stack )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Submission errors, aborting:
+- eclipse-jgit-2.1.0-5.mga3:
+ - Current or newer revision(s) already exists in core/release for
+cauldron: 2.1.0-5.mga3
+
+
+--
+Thomas
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+<PRE>Thomas Backlund skrev 19.1.2013 02:37:
+&gt;<i> D.Morgan skrev 19.1.2013 02:34:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> please push eclipse-jgit, this is a fixed version that compiles
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> against latest eclipse ( needed to fix the whole eclipse stack )
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Submission errors, aborting:
+</I>&gt;<i> - eclipse-jgit-2.1.0-5.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> - Current or newer revision(s) already exists in core/release for
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron: 2.1.0-5.mga3
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Seems to have been a temp. problem...
+
+Now submitted...
+
+--
+Thomas
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+please push eclipse-egit this version compiles with new eclipse.
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+Regards,
+D.
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+<PRE>D.Morgan skrev 19.1.2013 03:05:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> please push eclipse-egit this version compiles with new eclipse.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Submitted.
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+--
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+please push eclipse-testframework , this version is compatible with
+current eclipse
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+Regards,
+D.
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+ <B>Sam Bailey</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Auto%20building%20a%20Mageia%202%20Vagrant%20box%20with%20VeeWee&In-Reply-To=%3C50FA3B34.90907%40cyprix.com.au%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Auto building a Mageia 2 Vagrant box with VeeWee">cyprix at cyprix.com.au
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+ <I>Sat Jan 19 07:20:36 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>Hello everyone,
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+Many thanks to everyone who has helped get the auto install
+documentation updated on the wiki. It's allowed me to get a Vagrant box
+auto building with veewee.
+
+For those interested in more info and the code:
+Post with details - <A HREF="http://thatsamguy.com/2013/01/mageia-2-vagrant-box/">http://thatsamguy.com/2013/01/mageia-2-vagrant-box/</A>
+GitHub Repo - <A HREF="https://github.com/thatsamguy/veewee-definitions">https://github.com/thatsamguy/veewee-definitions</A>
+
+Comments and suggestions are highly welcome!
+
+Many thanks again,
+
+--
+Sam Bailey (thatsamguy,cyprix)
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+ <B>Luc Menut</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: amarok">lmenut at free.fr
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+<PRE>Hello,
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+Le 18/01/2013 10:34, fundawang a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello, Could amaork 2.7.0 stable be pushed into cauldron? We target at 2.7.x for mga3, and we currently have 2.6 beta version in cauldron. Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+ping
+It would be nice to have amarok 2.7.0 final release in upcoming beta 2;
+it seems to fix crashes reported in release_blocker #7748 (it fixes
+crashes for Nikita Krupenko, and myself with a local build of amarok 2.7.0).
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7748">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7748</A>
+
+regards,
+Luc
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+--
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+ <B>Robert Wood</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20What%27s%20the%20point%20of%20the%20latest%20nvidia%20update%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C50FA7AA9.8000509%40apostrophe.co.uk%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] What's the point of the latest nvidia update?">robert.wood at apostrophe.co.uk
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+<PRE>I have a modern nvidia graphics card on my desktop that necessittated
+having to get the very latest nvidia driver from the nvidia site and
+manually install.
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+So, when we had a nvidia pakcage update on my laptop, I thought I'd give
+the Mageia package another go, but it makes sack-all difference, it
+still just sits there doing nothing and says:
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+Failed to start Wait for Plymouth Boot Screen to Quit
+
+So I went and looked on my laptop and it looks like it's v 295.49
+whereas the very latest version is 304.43. I need this for my modern
+graphics card or the desktop refuses to boot. So, why bother with
+v295.49 when there's a much more modern one?
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+ <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B>
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+<PRE>&#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; 19/01/2013 10:51:21 Robert Wood &#941;&#947;&#961;&#945;&#968;&#949;:
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+I have a modern nvidia graphics card on my desktop that necessittated having to get the very latest nvidia driver from the nvidia site and manually install.
+
+So, when we had a nvidia pakcage update on my laptop, I thought I'd give the Mageia package another go, but it makes sack-all difference, it still just sits there doing nothing and says:
+
+Failed to start Wait for Plymouth Boot Screen to Quit
+
+So I went and looked on my laptop and it looks like it's v 295.49 whereas the very latest version is 304.43. I need this for my modern graphics card or the desktop refuses to boot. So, why bother with v295.49 when there's a much more modern one?
+
+
+You can follow this guide with your own risk:
+
+3. Installing proprietaty video driver for Nvidia from Mageia Russian Community repository
+Be careful! That are unofficial repo and unofficial driver package! That can do some problems with your system like x-server don't start at system launching, etc.
+If you don't know what you doing - don't do these actions!
+
+for i586
+su
+urpmi.addmedia --wget --distrib MageiaLinux.ru-i586- <A HREF="http://packages.mageialinux.ru/mageia2/i586/">http://packages.mageialinux.ru/mageia2/i586/</A>
+exit
+
+for x86_64
+su
+urpmi.addmedia --wget --distrib MageiaLinux.ru-x86_64- <A HREF="http://packages.mageialinux.ru/mageia2/x86_64/">http://packages.mageialinux.ru/mageia2/x86_64/</A>
+exit
+
+Open RpmDrake GUI and use search.
+You need find and install x11-driver-video-nvidia-current and dkms-nvidia-current packages with version 304.60 and prefix 1.mrc.mga2. Installation will be long.
+After installation you need reboot your PC.
+
+<A HREF="http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/1/846939071448270483/">http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/1/846939071448270483/</A>
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+--
+Dimitrios Glentadakis
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+ <B>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n</B>
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+<PRE>Le Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:04:13 +0000
+Barry Jackson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">zen25000 at zen.co.uk</A>&gt; a &#233;crit:
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+&gt;<i> On 18/01/13 21:50, Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:19:24 +0000
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Maurice Batey &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>&gt; a &#233;crit:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:09:41 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; As Grub2 devs all but insist Grub2 must be installed to the MBR,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Thus preventing the use of such bootloadcers as GAG, and Extipl. so in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; that respect GRUB2 is a retrograde step.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; /\/\aurice
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; +1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Same philosophy as gnome3 : only me.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; My choice is the goof choice according to myself (Im a dev so I can't be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; wrong)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Same philosophy as Apple : users (like people) are children ! Elite
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; have to show them the &#171; good way &#187;.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Alleluia !
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All FUD
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Have any of you actually installed grub2 in Cauldron and read
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/share/doc/grub2/README.Mageia and then actually tried it?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This can be done without upsetting your grub legacy installation in any way.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have been using grub2 with Mageia since Mga1 and multibooting a dozen
+</I>&gt;<i> or more distros including grub legacy and grub2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am currently running Cauldron with only grub2 installed and NOT to the
+</I>&gt;<i> MBR.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have just net installed current cauldron (so really mga3b2) with grub2
+</I>&gt;<i> (not in MBR) and can multiboot straight into it.
+</I>&gt;<i> (at present there is an issue with the installer so the install just
+</I>&gt;<i> needs to be aborted at the bootloader install stage to do this)
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8742">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8742</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As regards the background - grub2 picks up the current default Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork from the system on install, so this should be automatic.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All these fears are, AFAICT unfounded.
+</I>
+So it'is a fud launched by grub2 developpers when they recommend
+installing it only on the MBR.
+
+Since the apparition of grub2 all that is almost unclear.
+
+Lack of communication or understandability I don't know but the fact is
+that grub2 is a problem for many users.
+
+If we add EFI UEFI (of course not linux fault) it is a easyless
+installing one or different Gnu/linux systems than 3 years ago.
+
+But perhaps I am a stupid linux user since 13 or 14 years and I should
+have to buy Apple product or W8 ;-)
+
+--
+A.Sala&#252;n
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+ <B>Samuel Verschelde</B>
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+I updated playonlinux to the minor release 4.1.9, which is said by the
+developers to be meant to be the last of the 4.1.x branch, including lots of
+stability improvements, bugfixes (but also a few improvements).
+
+Changelog : <A HREF="http://www.playonlinux.com/en/commentaires-1133.html">http://www.playonlinux.com/en/commentaires-1133.html</A>
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+Thanks!
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+<PRE>Le samedi 19 janvier 2013 13:22:08, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I updated playonlinux to the minor release 4.1.9, which is said by the
+</I>&gt;<i> developers to be meant to be the last of the 4.1.x branch, including lots
+</I>&gt;<i> of stability improvements, bugfixes (but also a few improvements).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Changelog : <A HREF="http://www.playonlinux.com/en/commentaires-1133.html">http://www.playonlinux.com/en/commentaires-1133.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel
+</I>
+I meant &quot;freeze&quot; push, of course :)
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and EatDirt at 18/01/13 17:26 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 18/01/13 18:19, Bruno Cornec wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't know who did that great job, but I'd like to congratulate this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> community, as with the beta of Mageia 3 I'm now able to install a very
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> minimal distro for a firewall with 340 packages &quot;only&quot; without doing any
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> urpme in my postinstall script !! Very happy about that, please keep up
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the good work !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> YEAA! Mageia got the systemd-Colin Machine that seriously rocks!!!!!
+</I>
+Actually I think it was me who *caused* a lot of the required pkgs
+issues with dracut. I did mean to strip it out after mga2 release but
+totally forgot. Someone else actually removed some of those not strictly
+needed deps which likely helped a lot in with this issue.
+
+Col
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%0A%09firefox-17.0.2-5.mga3&In-Reply-To=%3CCAONrEtZO2EieAe25SPZ8TLknbe2g7H-it2Y%3DpHrydrCb0RNVUg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+ <I>Sat Jan 19 15:08:14 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>On 17 January 2013 23:57, pterjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> pterjan &lt;pterjan&gt; 0:17.0.2-5.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 389233
+</I>&gt;<i> - Add Mageia parameter to DuckDuckGo url
+</I>
+we should do the same on firefox-beta &amp; -aurora
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+ <B>Barry Jackson</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Update question about python-pygments">zen25000 at zen.co.uk
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+ <I>Sat Jan 19 15:41:50 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>In order to fix <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7906">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7906</A>
+which is about the poor display of many spec files in ViewVC.
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+We need the latest version of python-pygments which has just been
+released with RPM spec lexer included.
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+This would also need to be installed on the ViewVC server.
+
+The new version is 1.6 rc1
+<A HREF="http://pygments.org/download/">http://pygments.org/download/</A>
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+It is not in svn yet and I have not yet managed to contact the
+maintainer (philippem), although I have built it locally, and it's ready
+to upload.
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+ <B>AL13N</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20What%27s%20the%20point%20of%20the%20latest%20nvidia%20update%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1493576.andncOzThQ%40localhost%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] What's the point of the latest nvidia update?">alien at rmail.be
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+<PRE>Op zaterdag 19 januari 2013 10:51:21 schreef Robert Wood:
+&gt;<i> I have a modern nvidia graphics card on my desktop that necessittated
+</I>&gt;<i> having to get the very latest nvidia driver from the nvidia site and
+</I>&gt;<i> manually install.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, when we had a nvidia pakcage update on my laptop, I thought I'd give
+</I>&gt;<i> the Mageia package another go, but it makes sack-all difference, it
+</I>&gt;<i> still just sits there doing nothing and says:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Failed to start Wait for Plymouth Boot Screen to Quit
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I went and looked on my laptop and it looks like it's v 295.49
+</I>&gt;<i> whereas the very latest version is 304.43. I need this for my modern
+</I>&gt;<i> graphics card or the desktop refuses to boot. So, why bother with
+</I>&gt;<i> v295.49 when there's a much more modern one?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> **
+</I>
+for mga2, the driver update (meaning no new functionality, just bugfixes is
+295)
+
+for mga3 (beta1) the latest driver is atm 310...
+
+if for mga2 you want a newer driver you should ask for a backport request, ie:
+to have 310 on mga2 as well.
+
+plz file such requests at <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/">https://bugs.mageia.org/</A>
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+ <B>Barry Jackson</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Update%20question%20about%20python-pygments&In-Reply-To=%3C50FAB30D.9000305%40zen.co.uk%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Update question about python-pygments">zen25000 at zen.co.uk
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+ <I>Sat Jan 19 15:51:57 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>On 19/01/13 14:41, Barry Jackson wrote:
+&gt;<i> In order to fix <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7906">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7906</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> which is about the poor display of many spec files in ViewVC.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We need the latest version of python-pygments which has just been
+</I>&gt;<i> released with RPM spec lexer included.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This would also need to be installed on the ViewVC server.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The new version is 1.6 rc1
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pygments.org/download/">http://pygments.org/download/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It is not in svn yet and I have not yet managed to contact the
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainer (philippem), although I have built it locally, and it's ready
+</I>&gt;<i> to upload.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I forgot the questions :/
+
+Will it be possible to include this in Mga3 or should it wait until Mga4
+Cauldron?
+
+If it waits, then will we be able to install the Cauldron version on the
+server to fix this bug before Mga4 ?
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+ <B>Thomas Spuhler</B>
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+ <I>Sat Jan 19 17:26:35 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>The following packages don't build anymore.
+The php-5.4(zend) patches have been applied, but there are a lot of other issues.
+All of them haven't seen any upstream activities fir 2 years.
+
+I propose to move them to obsoletes if nobody complains or steps I will do it early next week:
+
+php-archive
+php-bcompiler
+php-colorer
+php-courierauth
+php-ecasound
+php-event
+php-filepro
+php-framegrab
+php-funcall
+php-gtk2
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+php-ps
+php-python
+php-syck
+php-tcpwrap
+php-tdb
+php-teng
+php-tk
+php-xslcache
+php-yp
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+--
+Best regards
+Thomas Spuhler
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 19/01/13 16:26 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> The following packages don't build anymore.
+</I>&gt;<i> The php-5.4(zend) patches have been applied, but there are a lot of other issues.
+</I>&gt;<i> All of them haven't seen any upstream activities fir 2 years.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I propose to move them to obsoletes if nobody complains or steps I will do it early next week:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> php-xslcache
+</I>
+Oh this looks useful... but that said I've always just created a custom
+package with a catalog and copies of the XSLs I use regularly which does
+much the same trick system-wide.
+
+None of the packages look super crazy useful to me and probably won't be
+missed.
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
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+Open Source:
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+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Barry Jackson at 19/01/13 14:51 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 19/01/13 14:41, Barry Jackson wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In order to fix <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7906">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7906</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> which is about the poor display of many spec files in ViewVC.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We need the latest version of python-pygments which has just been
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> released with RPM spec lexer included.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This would also need to be installed on the ViewVC server.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The new version is 1.6 rc1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pygments.org/download/">http://pygments.org/download/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It is not in svn yet and I have not yet managed to contact the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> maintainer (philippem), although I have built it locally, and it's ready
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to upload.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I forgot the questions :/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Will it be possible to include this in Mga3 or should it wait until Mga4
+</I>&gt;<i> Cauldron?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If it waits, then will we be able to install the Cauldron version on the
+</I>&gt;<i> server to fix this bug before Mga4 ?
+</I>
+Assuming the upstream is not deprecating anything and is aiming for api
+compatibility etc. then I think we should probably include it in mga3,
+but that's just my opinion.
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+<PRE>Is anything used by something else?
+
+Do most of them have replacements or are obsoleted by others?
+
+php-bcompiler ... iirc, i donno if there is a replacement for this
+php-archive ... sounds like it's obsoleted by others
+php-xslcache ... is this obsolete too?
+php-gtk2 ... is there a php-gtk3
+php-tdb ... this might be used for samba stuff
+
+and:
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+php-perl &amp; php-python &lt;--- WTF?
+
+Op zaterdag 19 januari 2013 09:26:35 schreef Thomas Spuhler:
+&gt;<i> The following packages don't build anymore.
+</I>&gt;<i> The php-5.4(zend) patches have been applied, but there are a lot of other
+</I>&gt;<i> issues. All of them haven't seen any upstream activities fir 2 years.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I propose to move them to obsoletes if nobody complains or steps I will do
+</I>&gt;<i> it early next week:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> php-archive
+</I>&gt;<i> php-bcompiler
+</I>&gt;<i> php-colorer
+</I>&gt;<i> php-courierauth
+</I>&gt;<i> php-ecasound
+</I>&gt;<i> php-event
+</I>&gt;<i> php-filepro
+</I>&gt;<i> php-framegrab
+</I>&gt;<i> php-funcall
+</I>&gt;<i> php-gtk2
+</I>&gt;<i> php-mcache
+</I>&gt;<i> php-mnogosearch
+</I>&gt;<i> php-perl
+</I>&gt;<i> php-ps
+</I>&gt;<i> php-python
+</I>&gt;<i> php-syck
+</I>&gt;<i> php-tcpwrap
+</I>&gt;<i> php-tdb
+</I>&gt;<i> php-teng
+</I>&gt;<i> php-tk
+</I>&gt;<i> php-xslcache
+</I>&gt;<i> php-yp
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+<PRE>On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 4:35 PM, AL13N &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Is anything used by something else?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do most of them have replacements or are obsoleted by others?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> php-bcompiler ... iirc, i donno if there is a replacement for this
+</I>&gt;<i> php-archive ... sounds like it's obsoleted by others
+</I>&gt;<i> php-xslcache ... is this obsolete too?
+</I>&gt;<i> php-gtk2 ... is there a php-gtk3
+</I>
+[5-Aug-2010] Dropping by to let the PHP-GTK community know that
+development is still happening! The project is being split up into
+different projects, PECL/Cairo, GLib, GObject, etc.
+
+The cairo one seems to be the only one existing so far...
+
+Last commit on <A HREF="http://svn.php.net/viewvc/gtk/php-gtk/trunk/">http://svn.php.net/viewvc/gtk/php-gtk/trunk/</A> is 2 years old
+
+&gt;<i> php-tdb ... this might be used for samba stuff
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> php-perl &amp; php-python &lt;--- WTF?
+</I>
+That's the other way around from
+<A HREF="http://search.cpan.org/~mob/PHP-0.14/PHP.pm">http://search.cpan.org/~mob/PHP-0.14/PHP.pm</A> or
+<A HREF="http://search.cpan.org/~aff/PHP-Interpreter-1.0.2/">http://search.cpan.org/~aff/PHP-Interpreter-1.0.2/</A>
+
+&gt;<i> Op zaterdag 19 januari 2013 09:26:35 schreef Thomas Spuhler:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The following packages don't build anymore.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The php-5.4(zend) patches have been applied, but there are a lot of other
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> issues. All of them haven't seen any upstream activities fir 2 years.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I propose to move them to obsoletes if nobody complains or steps I will do
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it early next week:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> php-archive
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> php-bcompiler
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> php-colorer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> php-courierauth
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> php-ecasound
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> php-event
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> php-filepro
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> php-framegrab
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> php-funcall
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> php-gtk2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> php-mcache
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> php-mnogosearch
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> php-perl
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> php-ps
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> php-python
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> php-syck
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> php-tcpwrap
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> php-tdb
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> php-teng
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> php-tk
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> php-xslcache
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> php-yp
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+&gt;<i> Why do bootloader-utils (I think?) change device.map, menu.lst settings ?
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+Good question. While trying to figure out a problem with upgraded VMs to Cauldron, installing kernels in the chroot system using the Rescue
+feature of the installer caused device.map to have all hd entries wiped out and all that was left was fd0. I had to restore device.map from
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] What's the point of the latest nvidia update?">juancho at mageia.org
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> if for mga2 you want a newer driver you should ask for a backport request, ie:
+</I>&gt;<i> to have 310 on mga2 as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> plz file such requests at <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/">https://bugs.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>
+This means that backports at last are opened ??
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+--
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+ <B>Claire Robinson</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20What%27s%20the%20point%20of%20the%20latest%20nvidia%20update%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C50FADF04.2010205%40gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>On 19/01/13 17:52, Juan Luis Baptiste wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 9:44 AM, AL13N &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> if for mga2 you want a newer driver you should ask for a backport request, ie:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to have 310 on mga2 as well.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> plz file such requests at <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/">https://bugs.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This means that backports at last are opened ??
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://is.gd/RPG8NO">http://is.gd/RPG8NO</A>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] What's the point of the latest nvidia update?">alien at rmail.be
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+<PRE>Op zaterdag 19 januari 2013 17:59:32 schreef Claire Robinson:
+&gt;<i> On 19/01/13 17:52, Juan Luis Baptiste wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 9:44 AM, AL13N &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; if for mga2 you want a newer driver you should ask for a backport
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; request, ie: to have 310 on mga2 as well.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; plz file such requests at <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/">https://bugs.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This means that backports at last are opened ??
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://is.gd/RPG8NO">http://is.gd/RPG8NO</A>
+</I>
+this blocks backports, but this has been decided to fix soon-ish.
+
+so, soon backports is opened (hopefully), but perhaps sooner if there are more
+backport requests.
+
+be advised that asking for a backport means you in combination with maintainer
+will have make sure you have at least 2 people (i586/x86_64) who can QA test
+it for QA validation. (since we could use more help on QA when we're opening
+backports).
+
+i think your request is a sensible one and hope you're willing to help out to
+get it into mga2.
+
+I would advise you if you find those people to state so in the bug report.
+
+The, hopefully that bug will be finished and backports will be opened.
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+<PRE>Op zondag 6 januari 2013 23:54:22 schreef AL13N:
+&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 4 januari 2013 10:08:04 schreef AL13N:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op donderdag 3 januari 2013 22:14:51 schreef AL13N:
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+just a reply to note that /dev/dvd does not exist, making playing DVDs in
+media players not working:
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+[]# ln -s /dev/sr0 /dev/dvd
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+i am unsure of course if this link will be there next time? is /dev on tmpfs?
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+did i forgot to install some packages that have udev rules in it? or is there
+something more going on? i do remember even going to deviceinfo in MCC, so...
+i would expect that at least to tell me what would need to be installed...
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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+<PRE>This is a bug fix release:
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+0.6.19
+- fix missing used function in emi and ulri
+- use unique tmpfile for dumping macros
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+ <B>eatdirt</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Freeze%20push%20wxsvg%20for%20bug%238727&In-Reply-To=%3Ckdfbcb%24v27%241%40ger.gmane.org%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Freeze push wxsvg for bug#8727">dirteat at gmail.com
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+ <I>Sun Jan 20 00:48:30 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+please push wxsvg, that's a bumped version to 1.1.11 that fixes
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8727">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8727</A>
+
+on dvdstyler. As far as I can test, dvdstyler does not need a rebuild,
+but feel free to do it if you juge so.
+
+urpmq --whatrequires lib64wxsvg0
+dvdstyler
+lib64wxsvg-devel
+lib64wxsvg0
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+so nothing else should be affected.
+
+Cheers,
+Chris.
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+ <B>Liam R E Quin</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Grub2%20vs.%20Grub%20Legacy%20in%20M3%20%5Bplay%20nice%2C%20people%5D&In-Reply-To=%3C1358643938.24783.164.camel%40localhost.localdomain%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Grub2 vs. Grub Legacy in M3 [play nice, people]">liam at holoweb.net
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+<PRE>On Sat, 2013-01-19 at 12:42 +0100, Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n wrote:
+[...]
+&gt;<i> But perhaps I am a stupid linux user since 13 or 14 years and I should
+</I>&gt;<i> have to buy Apple product or W8 ;-)
+</I>
+I've been using Unix since V7 days and have been told on this list I
+shouldn't be using Cauldron because it's for more advanced users.
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+Please people, let's be respectful and also welcoming.
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+A lot of people get heavily involved with computers because they aren't
+&quot;people people&quot; or because they feel more comfortable with absolutes and
+certainty than with the warm fleshly reality of humanity, so we need
+also to understand people are not necessarily deliberately being
+offensive or dismissive, especially if English might not be their first
+language.
+
+Regards,
+
+Liam
+
+--
+Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, <A HREF="http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/">http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/</A>
+Pictures from old books: <A HREF="http://fromoldbooks.org/">http://fromoldbooks.org/</A>
+Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org freenode/#xml
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+ <B>D.Morgan</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: eclipse-texlipse">dmorganec at gmail.com
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+ <I>Sun Jan 20 03:06:56 CET 2013</I>
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+Please push eclipse-texlipse, this is a new version that compiles with
+new eclipse
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+Regards,
+D.
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20freeze%20push%3A%20firefox-aurora&In-Reply-To=%3CCAONrEtan12vT%3Dyzp0T1pHKLRaZ_Ph6PYzv3VeYDkAuobQKAXmA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] freeze push: firefox-aurora">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com
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+ <I>Sun Jan 20 11:13:54 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>On 18 January 2013 16:51, Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please let in firefox-aurora.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It doesn't impact anything in the distro and nothing depends on this package,.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ping?
+</I>
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+ <B>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil</B>
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+<PRE>hello,
+
+can you please let &quot;trousers&quot; go through the freeze ? this have been updated
+by oden and fixes memleaks.
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+thanks a lot
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+ <B>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil</B>
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+<PRE>Hello,
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+a user asked on irc if we can update python-cython to the last stable version
+( because we write of software needing it and would like to have mageia 3
+compatible with )
+
+Looking to the changelog it seems we have an old version ( around april ) and
+that the new fixes a lot of issues .
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+I think this would be without any harm to add it.
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+WDYT ?
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+ <B>Maurice Batey</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Grub2%20vs.%20Grub%20Legacy%20in%20M3%20%28was%3A%20Feedback%0A%09on%09Mageia%203%20beta1%29&In-Reply-To=%3Cpan.2013.01.20.11.44.04.916244%40bcs.org.uk%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Grub2 vs. Grub Legacy in M3 (was: Feedback on Mageia 3 beta1)">maurice at bcs.org.uk
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+ <I>Sun Jan 20 12:44:05 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:42:13 +0000, Maurice Batey wrote:
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+&gt;&gt;<i> As Grub2 devs all but insist Grub2 must be installed to the MBR,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I had overlooked that restriction. Another black mark for GRUB2.
+</I>
+ Seems the installer *will* put GRUB2 on the root patition, but one
+has to search a little for the option...
+
+There is an illuminating presentation on whole subject at:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.zdnet.com/multi-booting-with-legacy-grub-and-grub2-4010022073">http://www.zdnet.com/multi-booting-with-legacy-grub-and-grub2-4010022073</A>
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+--
+/\/\aurice
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+ <B>AL13N</B>
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+<PRE>after complete update,
+
+it seems due to plymouth working, it chooses the first mode from HDMI probe
+(which seems to be 640x480 (the resolution plymouth ran on?), right before
+1920x1080.)
+
+the old log file has 1920x1080 as first mode.
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+atm, i set xorg.conf fixed on full HD resolution.
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+<PRE>after updates, it failed to work. even thought the devices exist and it's
+being sent that way, the volume on the sender is there, and the volume on the
+receiver is 0.
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+<PRE>On 01/20/2013 06:44 AM, Maurice Batey wrote:
+&gt;<i> There is an illuminating presentation on whole subject at:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.zdnet.com/multi-booting-with-legacy-grub-and-grub2-4010022073">http://www.zdnet.com/multi-booting-with-legacy-grub-and-grub2-4010022073</A>
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+According to this article, grub and grub2 each support chainloading the
+other. So I really don't see why there's a problem. I've never
+understood why anyone would set up multiboot architectures that
+*weren't* based exclusively on chainloading. That enforces maximum
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Barry Jackson at 19/01/13 14:51 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 19/01/13 14:41, Barry Jackson wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> In order to fix <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7906">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7906</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> which is about the poor display of many spec files in ViewVC.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We need the latest version of python-pygments which has just been
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> released with RPM spec lexer included.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This would also need to be installed on the ViewVC server.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The new version is 1.6 rc1
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pygments.org/download/">http://pygments.org/download/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It is not in svn yet and I have not yet managed to contact the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> maintainer (philippem), although I have built it locally, and it's ready
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to upload.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I forgot the questions :/
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Will it be possible to include this in Mga3 or should it wait until Mga4
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cauldron?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If it waits, then will we be able to install the Cauldron version on the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> server to fix this bug before Mga4 ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Assuming the upstream is not deprecating anything and is aiming for api
+</I>&gt;<i> compatibility etc. then I think we should probably include it in mga3,
+</I>&gt;<i> but that's just my opinion.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+OK - Since time is passing, I have committed the new version and patched
+a minor bug.
+
+Please can we push python-pygments to fix Bug 7906 so that ViewVC will
+display spec files correctly.
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+I have changed Subject line accordingly.
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+&gt;<i> According to this article, grub and grub2 each support chainloading the
+</I>&gt;<i> other. So I really don't see why there's a problem
+</I>
+ Note that he says:
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+ &quot;I then login to that, edit the menu.lst file as desribed above to
+ add the new Grub2 installation, and then restore Legacy Grub
+ as the primary bootloader&quot;
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+So I suspect that he (like me) does not know how to boot a GRUB Legacy
+install from a GRUB2 boot menu.
+ (Yes, I know GRUB2 boot menus do show options to boot existing
+GRUB Legacy installs, but in my experience (with Ubuntu and Mint) they
+*fail* to boot them.)
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+Despite my requests in various newsgroups, NO ONE has offered a
+description of how to get a GRUB2 boot menu to successfully boot a
+GRUB Legacy install.
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+Can you, please, Frank?
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+<PRE>On 01/20/2013 07:55 AM, Maurice Batey wrote:
+&gt;<i> So I suspect that he (like me) does not know how to boot a GRUB Legacy
+</I>&gt;<i> install from a GRUB2 boot menu. (Yes, I know GRUB2 boot menus do show
+</I>&gt;<i> options to boot existing GRUB Legacy installs, but in my experience
+</I>&gt;<i> (with Ubuntu and Mint) they *fail* to boot them.) Despite my requests
+</I>&gt;<i> in various newsgroups, NO ONE has offered a description of how to get
+</I>&gt;<i> a GRUB2 boot menu to successfully boot a GRUB Legacy install. Can you,
+</I>&gt;<i> please, Frank?
+</I>
+I've never used grub2 myself. But the article states that if you have
+grub2 on the MBR and define a chainloader menu.lst entry for a partition
+that has grub on the PBR, it works.
+
+That makes sense. Chainloading simply means that the MBR bootloader
+reads the PBR into memory and passes control to it exactly as the BIOS
+reads the MBR into memory and passes control to it. Assuming that both
+grub and grub2 support chainloading correctly, neither one of them
+should have any idea whether it's an MBR that was loaded by the BIOS or
+a PBR that was chainloaded by an MBR.
+
+This glosses over other sources of problems like UEFI and GPT, but it
+has always been the case that if you want to support multiple boot
+loaders, you have to use a lowest common denomination architecture that
+they all support.
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+<PRE>On 20/01/13 12:55, Maurice Batey wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 07:41:28 -0500, Frank Griffin wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> According to this article, grub and grub2 each support chainloading the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> other. So I really don't see why there's a problem
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Note that he says:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;I then login to that, edit the menu.lst file as desribed above to
+</I>&gt;<i> add the new Grub2 installation, and then restore Legacy Grub
+</I>&gt;<i> as the primary bootloader&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I suspect that he (like me) does not know how to boot a GRUB Legacy
+</I>&gt;<i> install from a GRUB2 boot menu.
+</I>&gt;<i> (Yes, I know GRUB2 boot menus do show options to boot existing
+</I>&gt;<i> GRUB Legacy installs, but in my experience (with Ubuntu and Mint) they
+</I>&gt;<i> *fail* to boot them.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Despite my requests in various newsgroups, NO ONE has offered a
+</I>&gt;<i> description of how to get a GRUB2 boot menu to successfully boot a
+</I>&gt;<i> GRUB Legacy install.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you, please, Frank?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+There is no problem at all.
+
+Your issues with Ubuntu etc in the past were probably due to a bug in
+os-prober which was fixed in version 1.53.
+
+Mageia grub2 will correctly detect and boot legacy grub systems.
+
+If you install the grub2 package (assuming you did not at install time)
+then you can test this quite easily.
+
+Installing the grub2 package will not impact your current bootloader in
+any way.
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+Once it's installed read /usr/share/doc/grub2/README.Mageia to find how
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+ <B>Maurice Batey</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:08:57 +0000, Barry Jackson wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Installing the grub2 package will not impact your current bootloader in
+</I>&gt;<i> any way.
+</I>
+ Installing GRUB2 where, Barry?
+(MBR or Root partition?)
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+If - as I did with Ubuntu 12.01 - GRUB2 goes into the MBR, then I can
+no longer boot from its menu into a GRUB Legacy install, a I said
+earlier (despite the GRUB2 boot menu purporting to do so).
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+&gt;<i> Once it's installed read /usr/share/doc/grub2/README.Mageia to find how to
+</I>&gt;<i> add an entry to your existing menu.lst to boot into the new grub2 menu
+</I>&gt;<i> from your existing legacy grub.
+</I>
+ As I said earlier, I already know how to do that.
+What I still don't know (and still no one has described!) is how to get
+a GRUB2 boot menu to successfullly boot a GRUB Legacy install.
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+--
+/\/\aurice
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+ <B>Joseph Wang</B>
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+<PRE>Just wanted to bring people's attention to this bug
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+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8757">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8757</A>
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