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    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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<PRE>2011/11/10 Frank Griffin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>&gt;:
&gt;<i> On 11/10/2011 02:25 AM, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
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</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In other words, you would prefer to have non-free drivers to remain in the
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;core&quot; tree because otherwise some hardware may not work? (Did i understand
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you correctly?)
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</I>&gt;<i> If we're going to have core and non-free to begin with, then non-free stuff
</I>&gt;<i> shouldn't be in core. &#160;That being said, it isn't the problem here. &#160;The
</I>&gt;<i> problem is that non-free isn't as available as core. &#160;It should be, based on
</I>&gt;<i> prompting the user during install. &#160;Those who want a totally free system
</I>&gt;<i> that lacks non-free functionality just have to say no.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> If it makes a philosophical difference, then have no default and require the
</I>&gt;<i> user to explicitly answer yes or no, and get treated accordingly. &#160;Putting
</I>&gt;<i> non-free stuff in core is an attempted solution to the problem that enabling
</I>&gt;<i> and using non-free in an installed core-only system is much more complicated
</I>&gt;<i> than it ought to be. &#160;By the time a user boots his installed system,
</I>&gt;<i> non-free stuff should already be there if he wants it there.
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By the time a user boots his installed system he either has the online
repositories already set (after install from liveCD) or is just a
mouse click away from setting them. When the online repos are set the
non-free repo is available if the user wants to have it.

Again it boils down to the decision whether Mageia wants to distribute
non-free in her installation media or not. This decision has been made
long ago and discussing the same settled issue over and over again is
wasting time.

-- 
wobo
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