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    <B>andre999</B> 
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<PRE>Florian Hubold a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i> Am 19.08.2011 19:48, schrieb Shlomi Fish:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:21:22 +0200
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anne nicolas&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt;  wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Back online. We are planning our next meeting for 24th of august, 19h
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> UTC on #mageia-dev. In between we will work on some burning subjects
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (backports incis meetiluded) so that we can take final decisions
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> during this meeting.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As usual and as it's a long time we did not have any meeting, you can
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> propose some topics to be added. We will need a review on current
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mentoring (Andr&#233; ?) and secteam (Stew ?).
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well, one thing that had bitten me twice is that with my ATI Radeon 
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> HD cards,
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the Mageia installations from the dual CD were unusable on two computers
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I tried due to the lack of the &quot;radeon-firmware&quot; package. After I 
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installed
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that package, and  rebuilt the initrds, then the problems were 
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> solved. Still,
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it didn't look good at all.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is this fact peculiar to the dual CD, and is better in the DVDs or do 
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we not
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> use radeon-firmeware by default globally? I'd like this discussed in 
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the next
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> meeting.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     Shlomi Fish
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> I'd like to add another thing to the meeting topics:
</I>&gt;<i> The discussion about non-free / tainted, which lasted really long,
</I>&gt;<i> but AFAICS there is no concensus or decision, and the discussion
</I>&gt;<i> has effectively reached a standstill. My tries to get this going again 
</I>&gt;<i> have not succeeded so far.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> For reference, have a look at those:
</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/006382.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/006382.html</A>
</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/007001.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/007001.html</A>
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> For some people the situation seems really clear, also to me,
</I>&gt;<i> this viewpoint is what tmb expressed in his mail:
</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/006560.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/006560.html</A>
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> But in the end we need a definitive decision.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>In the last reference, tmb responded to my post by noting that the 
original mirror policy put _all_ packages subject to patents or similar 
restrictions in some countries in &quot;tainted&quot;.

Since then, I have noticed that packages in non-free are tagged 
&quot;non-free&quot; (in the file name), and almost all packages in &quot;tainted&quot; are 
tagged &quot;tainted&quot;.

So a simple solution, considering that the consensus is to keep a third 
repository, is to tag all packages subject to both conditions as both 
&quot;non-free&quot; and &quot;tainted&quot;.
And leave them in the &quot;tainted&quot; repository.
We could even have a filter to avoid showing &quot;non-free&quot; items in the 
&quot;tainted&quot; repo, for those so concerned.
In any case, if we put both tags for such packages, &quot;non-free&quot; would 
always show up in the package name (under &quot;revision&quot; in rpmdrake).

BTW, I think it was an excellent idea to tag the packages with their 
repo/classification, if not in &quot;core&quot;.
(I still think we could have a better name than &quot;tainted&quot;, since there 
is nothing intrinsically wrong with the packages.)

-- 
Andr&#233;

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