1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,000 Paris, oct - 2010 2 00:00:05,700 --> 00:00:10,000 Hello everyone, welcome to the TV set of Open World Forum 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,000 We will now turn to another topic with our 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,700 new guest Anne Nicolas, Hello 5 00:00:14,700 --> 00:00:15,700 (Anne Nicolas) Hello 6 00:00:15,700 --> 00:00:19,200 So you work for a community called Mageia 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:20,000 Absolutely 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,400 But then there are our listeners are saying 9 00:00:21,500 --> 00:00:23,000 "but never heard Mageia speaking, 10 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,000 what is it that the promotion of this new thing" 11 00:00:26,100 --> 00:00:29,400 is a Mageia fork of Mandriva? 12 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:30,400 Quite 13 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,000 It remembers Mandriva, 14 00:00:32,100 --> 00:00:34,200 Mandriva I had left in my head a time when 15 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,000 there were many financial difficulties, 16 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,000 it was not well what it was going to give. 17 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,500 Tell us a little bit what happened 18 00:00:40,500 --> 00:00:43,000 and what made you want 19 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,500 to create this Mageia fork. 20 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,000 This fork Mageia came 21 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:53,000 a whole lot of uncertainties that reside in Mandriva, 22 00:00:53,100 --> 00:00:57,100 I was myself employed by a subsidiary of Mandriva. 23 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,000 It was felt there had been 12 years 24 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,000 of tremendous work performed on this distribution 25 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,000 and need to sustain this effort 26 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,000 and we wanted 27 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:15,000 to abstract from the presence a company 28 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,000 that had high and low economic level 29 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,000 and we decided to fork, ie 30 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,000 resume distribution Mandriva Linux 31 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,000 one point from a copy simply 32 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,000 because the license allows 33 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,500 and assembling a new project from there and only Community 34 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,000 within an association 35 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,000 and the project is called Mageia. 36 00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:41,500 So it's very fashionable because ultimately what you have done, 37 00:01:41,500 --> 00:01:44,200 people from the MySQL community did 38 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,000 at the time of acquisition by Oracle, 39 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,000 they accepted the takeover by Sun, 40 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,500 they have not accepted the takeover by Oracle. 41 00:01:49,500 --> 00:01:52,000 We learned yesterday that the OpenOffice community 42 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,000 was doing the same thing too 43 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,500 because they do not agree with the direction of Oracle. 44 00:01:56,500 --> 00:01:59,000 So finally for those who do not know 45 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,000 where all these terms, a Forking 46 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,500 is that you can resume the original source code 47 00:02:04,500 --> 00:02:06,800 and create for the moment exactly the same thing, a true copy? 48 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,000 Altogether, it does not reinvent the wheel, 49 00:02:09,100 --> 00:02:10,100 since I mentioned earlier, 50 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,000 we believe many technology integrated 51 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,500 with Mandriva Linux, 52 00:02:15,500 --> 00:02:18,700 we think it's really a strong point, 53 00:02:18,700 --> 00:02:22,000 but it would work differently 54 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,000 in the development of future distribution 55 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,700 Mageia So it'll be a 1901 association therefore non-profit? 56 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,000 Quite 57 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,000 built around the community, 58 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,400 developers in fact, 59 00:02:33,500 --> 00:02:34,500 it is community developers 60 00:02:34,500 --> 00:02:35,500 who are members of the association? 61 00:02:35,500 --> 00:02:38,000 Then the members of the association will overlap 62 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,000 with the full scope of that affect people 63 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,000 directly or indirectly to a distribution. 64 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,000 It will be developers, people who are 65 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,000 packaging software, testers translators, 66 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,000 but also because today what users. The strength 67 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,000 of a distribution is the ability of its community 68 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,000 users to promote the distribution 69 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,000 so they have a part quite predominant and essential 70 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,000 in the association. 71 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,000 So it begs the question 72 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,000 why an association? 73 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,000 You think today is the best way 74 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,500 to work together on a project like this? 75 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,000 Found that the values of freedom today 76 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:23,000 are that it can be a little demanding 77 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,000 on the necessity of sharing 78 00:03:25,100 --> 00:03:28,000 the sustainability of the software, etc.. 79 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:35,000 and given the history and challenges of the time, 80 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,000 Mandriva has been estimated that a community project 81 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,000 was more appropriate and 82 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,000 the association is only there to regulate 83 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,000 the use of resources organization, so yes there is a 84 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,000 community project but organized in a lasting way. 85 00:03:51,500 --> 00:03:54,000 At the same time we must live, 86 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,000 you were employed by a company 87 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,000 that working on Mandriva, 88 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,000 you may have wanted to find a job and back wages 89 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Yes, it would be nice. 90 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,000 It must be that all that great, 91 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,500 how is what generates the income fully associative structure? 92 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,500 Then the association is one thing, 93 00:04:08,500 --> 00:04:12,100 it produces a product that Mageia 94 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,000 which is called a distribution. 95 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,000 We can consider a perfectly 96 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,000 commercial structure that will act in the periphery of the association and 97 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,000 will based on the distribution called Mageia and 98 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,000 will offer a whole lots of service as support, 99 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,000 consulting, development, 100 00:04:28,100 --> 00:04:32,000 thereby help the company take this product 101 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,000 has tremendous community strength 102 00:04:35,100 --> 00:04:40,200 and integrate it into its array of solutions it may have. 103 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,200 So now you're faced with a number of needs, 104 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,000 urgent first need we will try to answer them all 105 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,000 is to make a bit of noise around Mageia 106 00:04:48,100 --> 00:04:50,200 because nobody knows. 107 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:57,000 Nobody knows the outdoors in the little world of open source. 108 00:04:57,100 --> 00:05:00,000 I admit that we were very pleasantly surprised 109 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,000 by the return because not Mandriva only the present community 110 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,000 has reacted to the announcement and acceded 111 00:05:08,100 --> 00:05:12,000 but also because people using Mandrake at the time 112 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,000 and returning because he believes 113 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,000 it is a little more to their expectation that they and their vision 114 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,000 of an open source distribution. 115 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,000 Be careful what is called the 116 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,000 navel syndrome, which that people who know you and 117 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,000 you know how difficult it is to ensure that those who do not know 118 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,000 you have the reflex to go see Mageia 119 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,000 rather because he must say things very clear shot of you 120 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,800 become a little competition from Mandriva? 121 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,000 Quite 122 00:05:36,100 --> 00:05:39,700 How is what you do to try to promote this new brand, 123 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,000 because it costs money as all that? 124 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,000 Is finally starting very small 125 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,000 since the initiative was made very short time, 126 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,200 we launched an appeal for donations 127 00:05:51,300 --> 00:05:56,000 which currently meets extremely well, we had solutions 128 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,000 to enable us to host our entire infrastructure, a 129 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:07,000 nd we will try to sustain it in companies adhering to the association, 130 00:06:07,500 --> 00:06:14,000 and finally it becomes account that there are many users who understand 131 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,500 that the Free software is not necessarily free and 132 00:06:16,500 --> 00:06:20,000 that I can to support the distribution rather than put a little money 133 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,000 every month by example 134 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,000 since I know that this money will be used so transparent 135 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,000 and maintaining a number of value. 136 00:06:29,100 --> 00:06:32,500 We have many returns on that front. 137 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,000 And do you think that you will generate enough money eventually 138 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,000 pay people who will permanently work 139 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,000 distribution? 140 00:06:40,300 --> 00:06:43,000 Immediate not within the Association, 141 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,000 cons in a business structure 142 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,000 that offer services can be more traditional 143 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:52,000 here we can actually generate income 144 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,000 and that income may possibly be 145 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,000 used to fund developments 146 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,000 additional distribution 147 00:06:58,500 --> 00:07:02,000 Very good transition, is what you have already thought about it 148 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,000 should evolve within Mageia that it continues to meet required? 149 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,000 At the same time Mandriva 150 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,000 was in trouble for some time that therefore 151 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 may be missing a bit of development, 152 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,000 is what you want do new things? 153 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,000 So yes, there are plenty of things we want to do, lots of things. 154 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,000 Among others, there is a huge strength is the 155 00:07:22,100 --> 00:07:25,000 control center, the Linux Control Center 156 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,000 and now it's to change, 157 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:33,000 the rejuvenate because it's true that it is a little older and then 158 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:38,000 why not move towards architectures 159 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,000 that are increasingly used as shelves for example, 160 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,000 and can also switch to 161 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,000 openness to services like cloud, etc.. 162 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,000 so all that they are guidelines 163 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,500 that will define in the coming weeks. 164 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,500 You have a real functioning associations, participatory? 165 00:07:53,500 --> 00:07:55,000 Quite 166 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,000 You will meet regularly? 167 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,500 While meeting a little bit special as they will because the virtual 168 00:08:00,500 --> 00:08:04,400 community Mageia is international, 169 00:08:04,500 --> 00:08:09,500 ie, it's a lot in Europe, South America, so 170 00:08:09,500 --> 00:08:12,000 in these cases we do can not do real meetings, 171 00:08:11,100 --> 00:08:14,000 the fact remains that these are people who are accustomed 172 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,000 to working in that way, remote, 173 00:08:16,100 --> 00:08:19,000 so yes it will meetings, as each interest group, 174 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,000 we will have a board to manage the association 175 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,500 to make a strategic decision, 176 00:08:23,500 --> 00:08:27,000 especially so many communication, perhaps what we missed. 177 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,000 Okay, we hope to have made our small contribution, 178 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,500 good luck in this project. 179 00:08:32,500 --> 00:08:34,000 Thank you 180 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:40,200 We will continue elsewhere if we want to know more the website is 181 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,000 mageia.org 182 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,000 m-a-g-e-i-a 183 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,000 Anne Nicolas, thank you very much. 184 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,000 Thanks