[Mageia-dev] boot-nonfree.iso ?

[Wolfgang Bornath]

2011/12/30 Thomas Backlund <tmb at mageia.org>:
> 30.12.2011 02:25, David Walser skrev:
>>
>> Thomas Backlund wrote:
>>>
>>> 29.12.2011 22:39, David Walser skrev:
>>>>
>>>> David Walser wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thomas Backlund wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now this does not fix the radeon-firmware issue, as this is only to
>>>>>> get installer running on all hw. (I probably will remove
>>>>>> radeon-firmware
>>>>>> again as it's not needed/used by the installer)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the radeon-firmware (and other nonfree firmware) issue, we still
>>>>>> need to fix stage2 installer.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have a reference for this issue?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is it https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1471 or something else?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, it's exactly that.
>>>
>>> the free DVD does not contain anything from nonfree, so radeon fails to
>>> load until the firmware gets installed.
>>>
>>> So we are trying to solve this issue cleanly.
>>> One thing I'm working on is a separate firmware iso to burn (or put
>>> contents on usb stick) to satisfy this need.
>>>
>>> The other option for radeon users is to install using livecds.
>>
>>
>> I want to make sure I understand you correctly, as I'm planning to upgrade
>> a MDV 2010.2 machine with a Radeon HD 4650 to Mageia 1 tomorrow.
>>
>> The referenced bug makes it sound like the installer works fine, but since
>> it doesn't have access to the nonfree firmware, the initrds it
>> generates in the bootloader installation part doesn't contain them, so
>> booting the installed system is problematic if you don't do
>> radeon.modeset=0.
>
>
>
> This is correct.
>
> The other option on Mageia 1 is to do a online upgrade, and it will pull the
> needed firmwares from nonfree during install.
>
>
>>
>> Listening to you in this thread I'm getting worried DrakX itself may not
>> work without access to the firmware.  Did I misread you?
>>
>
> DrakX/installer will work as it does not rely on hw specific drivers, as it
> runs in framebuffer mode.
>
> The point of fixing stage2 is that when installer detects hw that needs
> firmware from nonfree, it should notify the user and ask if he/she wants
> to install it, either from an additional media or from online repos.
>
> The problem with upcoming radeon hw, is that it wont work with
> radeon.modeset=0 as the only supported mode is KMS.
>
> I'm also looking into have the radeon driver refuse to load if it does
> not find its firmware, and maybe instead load vesa. But no ETA on that part.

And yet another important issue is wifi firmware to enable
notebook/netbook owners to install from dvd + extra cd/stick.

-- 
wobo