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[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem

+ Antoine Pitrou + solipsis at pitrou.net +
+ Thu Apr 12 00:18:18 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
+Hello,
+
+Just had the following error with the latest security updates:
+
+2 transactions d'installation ont échoué
+
+Une erreur est survenue pendant l'installation des paquetages :
+
+le fichier /usr/include/openssl/cms.h de l'installation de
+lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.x86_64 entre en conflit avec le
+fichier du paquetage libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.i586
+
+le fichier /usr/include/openssl/cms.h de l'installation de
+libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.i586 entre en conflit avec le fichier
+du paquetage lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.x86_64
+
+
+Regards
+
+Antoine.
+
+
+
+ + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)

+ TJ + andrewsfarm at gmail.com +
+ Thu Apr 12 00:47:21 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On 04/11/2012 01:27 PM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+> 2012/4/11 Anne Wilson<annew at kde.org>:
+>>
+>> On 10/04/12 20:53, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote:
+>>> On Tuesday 10 Apr 2012 10:57 my mailbox was graced by a message
+>>> from Anne Wilson who wrote:
+>>>> True indeed, but if someone wants to commit suicide we do have a
+>>>> moral duty not to supply the gun and teach him how to load it.
+>>>
+>>> We may have a duty to point out to him that we think his idea is
+>>> not good, but if he is decided, our duty then is to help him,
+>>> including acting as kaishakunin if he asks us to.
+>>>
+>> Your idea of moral duty is obviously different from mine.  I doubt if
+>> the law would see it your way either.
+>>
+>
+> Depends on what you see in Mageia. Is Mageia a mere provider of a
+> technical system who does not care further than uploading the
+> software? If so we don't need to discuss questions, we don't need to
+> give warnings about anything, etc. Or do we have a sense of moral duty
+> which goes beyond that? I am happy to see the decision of Mageia
+> showing that they care.
+>
+Whether I agree with the results or not, I get annoyed when people 
+presume to do my risk assessments for me. I would rather do it myself in 
+most cases. And this is one of those cases.
+
+TJ
+
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem

+ Manuel Hiebel + manuel at hiebel.eu +
+ Thu Apr 12 00:27:57 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
Le 12/04/2012 00:18, Antoine Pitrou a écrit :
+> Hello,
+>
+> Just had the following error with the latest security updates:
+>
+> 2 transactions d'installation ont échoué
+>
+> Une erreur est survenue pendant l'installation des paquetages :
+>
+> le fichier /usr/include/openssl/cms.h de l'installation de
+> lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.x86_64 entre en conflit avec le
+> fichier du paquetage libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.i586
+>
+> le fichier /usr/include/openssl/cms.h de l'installation de
+> libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.i586 entre en conflit avec le fichier
+> du paquetage lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.x86_64
+>
+Why do you have rpm in x86_64 and i586 ?
+
+ + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)

+ R James + upsnag2 at gmail.com +
+ Thu Apr 12 04:41:50 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Tony Blackwell <tablackwell at bigpond.com> wrote:
+> As the OP, I'll comment that although the config was AllowRoot=true, in
+> /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc, all previous versions of Mandriva/Mageia going
+> back a number of years, right up to M2beta1 after online updates, have
+> supported setting this flag as allowing graphical root access to gnome as
+> well as kde environments.  I hear the impassioned objections of some of our
+> leaders, and admit that the weight of expressed opinion in this thread is
+> against it, but a number of us have found the ability to do this useful at
+> times and I request its restoration.
+>
+> I'd be happy as ftg commented that it still have the same red screen warning
+> etc etc as before - agree it makes sense not to be obvious.
+>
+
+[root at localhost ~]# LetMeLoginToXasRoot
+bash: LetMeLoginToXasRoot: command not found
+:-(
+
+[root at localhost ~]# vi LetMeLoginToXasRoot
+{clickity click, clackity clack :wq}
+
+[root at localhost ~]# cat LetMeLoginToXasRoot
+#/bin/sh
+echo
+echo "So you want to be naughty?...OK ;o)"
+sed -i 's/user != root//' /etc/pam.d/kdm
+sed -i 's/AllowRootLogin=false/AllowRootLogin=true/'\
+ /var/lib/mageia/kde4-profiles/Default/share/config/kdm/kdmrc
+echo
+echo "Enter: service dm restart"
+echo "Then have a lot of fun!"
+echo
+exit 0
+EOF
+
+[root at localhost ~]# chmod 744 LetMeLoginToXasRoot
+
+[root at localhost ~]# ./LetMeLoginToXasRoot
+
+So you want to be naughty?...OK ;o)
+
+Enter: service dm restart
+Then have a lot of fun!
+
+[root at localhost opt]# service dm restart
+:o)
+
+[root at localhost opt]# GetMeABeer
+bash: GetMeABeer: command not found
+
+[root at localhost opt]# sudo GetMeABeer
+sudo: GetMeABeer: get your own #!@$ Beer!
+;o)
+
+HTH - RJ
+
+"Unix was not designed to stop its users from doing stupid things,
+as that would also stop them from doing clever things." - Doug Gwyn
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
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[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)

+ Kevin Bulgrien + kbulgrien at att.net +
+ Thu Apr 12 06:18:04 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
>[root at localhost ~]# LetMeLoginToXasRoot
+>bash: LetMeLoginToXasRoot: command not found
+>:-(
+>
+>[root at localhost ~]# vi LetMeLoginToXasRoot
+>{clickity click, clackity clack :wq}
+>
+>[root at localhost ~]# cat LetMeLoginToXasRoot
+>#/bin/sh
+>echo
+>echo "So you want to be naughty?...OK ;o)"
+>sed -i 's/user != root//' /etc/pam.d/kdm
+>sed -i 's/AllowRootLogin=false/AllowRootLogin=true/'\
+> /var/lib/mageia/kde4-profiles/Default/share/config/kdm/kdmrc
+>echo
+>echo "Enter: service dm restart"
+>echo "Then have a lot of fun!"
+>echo
+>exit 0
+>EOF
+>
+>[root at localhost ~]# chmod 744 LetMeLoginToXasRoot
+>
+>[root at localhost ~]# ./LetMeLoginToXasRoot
+>
+>So you want to be naughty?...OK ;o)
+>
+>Enter: service dm restart
+>Then have a lot of fun!
+>
+>[root at localhost opt]# service dm restart
+>:o)
+>
+>[root at localhost opt]# GetMeABeer
+>bash: GetMeABeer: command not found
+>
+>[root at localhost opt]# sudo GetMeABeer
+>sudo: GetMeABeer: get your own #!@$ Beer!
+>;o)
+>
+>HTH - RJ
+>
+>"Unix was not designed to stop its users from doing stupid things,
+>as that would also stop them from doing clever things." - Doug Gwyn
+
+
+Awesome on so many levels...
+
++10
+
+-- 
+Sent from my Android tablet. Please excuse my brevity.
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
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[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem

+ Oliver Burger + oliver.bgr at googlemail.com +
+ Thu Apr 12 09:28:48 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
Am 12.04.2012 00:18, schrieb Antoine Pitrou:
+>
+> Hello,
+>
+> Just had the following error with the latest security updates:
+>
+> 2 transactions d'installation ont échoué
+>
+> Une erreur est survenue pendant l'installation des paquetages :
+>
+> le fichier /usr/include/openssl/cms.h de l'installation de
+> lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.x86_64 entre en conflit avec le
+> fichier du paquetage libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.i586
+>
+> le fichier /usr/include/openssl/cms.h de l'installation de
+> libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.i586 entre en conflit avec le fichier
+> du paquetage lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.x86_64
+>
+When posting to this list (or the forums) could you add "LC_ALL=C" 
+before the command, so the error messages will be in English?
+
+Thanks,
+
+Oliver
+
+ + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem

+ Antoine Pitrou + solipsis at pitrou.net +
+ Thu Apr 12 11:41:46 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:28:48 +0200
+Oliver Burger <oliver.bgr at googlemail.com>
+wrote:
+> Am 12.04.2012 00:18, schrieb Antoine Pitrou:
+> >
+> > Hello,
+> >
+> > Just had the following error with the latest security updates:
+> >
+> > 2 transactions d'installation ont échoué
+> >
+> > Une erreur est survenue pendant l'installation des paquetages :
+> >
+> > le fichier /usr/include/openssl/cms.h de l'installation de
+> > lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.x86_64 entre en conflit avec le
+> > fichier du paquetage libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.i586
+> >
+> > le fichier /usr/include/openssl/cms.h de l'installation de
+> > libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.i586 entre en conflit avec le fichier
+> > du paquetage lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.x86_64
+> >
+> When posting to this list (or the forums) could you add "LC_ALL=C" 
+> before the command, so the error messages will be in English?
+
+It's not before a command, it's in the upgrade tool which pops up from
+the notification area.
+
+That said, here is what "urpmi --auto-update" says:
+
+Installation failed:	file /usr/include/openssl/cms.h from
+install of lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.x86_64 conflicts with
+file from package libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.i586
+file /usr/include/openssl/cms.h from install of
+libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.i586 conflicts with file from package
+lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.x86_64
+
+
+Regards
+
+Antoine.
+
+
+
+ + + + +
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[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem

+ Antoine Pitrou + solipsis at pitrou.net +
+ Thu Apr 12 11:43:47 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:27:57 +0200
+Manuel Hiebel <manuel at hiebel.eu> wrote:
+> Le 12/04/2012 00:18, Antoine Pitrou a écrit :
+> > Hello,
+> >
+> > Just had the following error with the latest security updates:
+> >
+> > 2 transactions d'installation ont échoué
+> >
+> > Une erreur est survenue pendant l'installation des paquetages :
+> >
+> > le fichier /usr/include/openssl/cms.h de l'installation de
+> > lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.x86_64 entre en conflit avec le
+> > fichier du paquetage libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.i586
+> >
+> > le fichier /usr/include/openssl/cms.h de l'installation de
+> > libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.i586 entre en conflit avec le fichier
+> > du paquetage lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.x86_64
+> >
+> Why do you have rpm in x86_64 and i586 ?
+
+Because I use both (or at least I used both at least once).
+
+Regards
+
+Antoine.
+
+
+
+ + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem

+ Antoine Pitrou + solipsis at pitrou.net +
+ Thu Apr 12 11:51:05 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:18:18 +0200
+Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net> wrote:
+> 
+> Une erreur est survenue pendant l'installation des paquetages :
+> 
+> le fichier /usr/include/openssl/cms.h de l'installation de
+> lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.x86_64 entre en conflit avec le
+> fichier du paquetage libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.i586
+> 
+> le fichier /usr/include/openssl/cms.h de l'installation de
+> libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.i586 entre en conflit avec le fichier
+> du paquetage lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.x86_64
+
+I removed libopenssl-devel so that the upgrade goes fine.
+Now I can't reinstall it:
+https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5365
+
+Damn.
+
+Antoine.
+
+
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem

+ Kevin R. Bulgrien + kbulgrien at att.net +
+ Thu Apr 12 13:37:56 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On Thursday, April 12, 2012 04:51:05 am Antoine Pitrou wrote:
+> On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:18:18 +0200
+> 
+> Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net> wrote:
+> > Une erreur est survenue pendant l'installation des paquetages :
+> > 
+> > le fichier /usr/include/openssl/cms.h de l'installation de
+> > lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.x86_64 entre en conflit avec le
+> > fichier du paquetage libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.i586
+> > 
+> > le fichier /usr/include/openssl/cms.h de l'installation de
+> > libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.i586 entre en conflit avec le fichier
+> > du paquetage lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.x86_64
+> 
+> I removed libopenssl-devel so that the upgrade goes fine.
+> Now I can't reinstall it:
+> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5365
+> 
+> Damn.
+> 
+> Antoine.
+
+What happens when you run:
+
+$ urpmq --whatprovides libopenssl-devel
+
+Are two different names displayed?  If so, can you install by using the more 
+detailed name?
+
+Kevin Bulgrien
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem

+ Antoine Pitrou + solipsis at pitrou.net +
+ Thu Apr 12 13:43:58 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:37:56 -0500
+"Kevin R. Bulgrien" <kbulgrien at att.net> wrote:
+
+> On Thursday, April 12, 2012 04:51:05 am Antoine Pitrou wrote:
+> > On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:18:18 +0200
+> > 
+> > Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net> wrote:
+> > > Une erreur est survenue pendant l'installation des paquetages :
+> > > 
+> > > le fichier /usr/include/openssl/cms.h de l'installation de
+> > > lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.x86_64 entre en conflit avec le
+> > > fichier du paquetage libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.i586
+> > > 
+> > > le fichier /usr/include/openssl/cms.h de l'installation de
+> > > libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.i586 entre en conflit avec le fichier
+> > > du paquetage lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.x86_64
+> > 
+> > I removed libopenssl-devel so that the upgrade goes fine.
+> > Now I can't reinstall it:
+> > https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5365
+> > 
+> > Damn.
+> > 
+> > Antoine.
+> 
+> What happens when you run:
+> 
+> $ urpmq --whatprovides libopenssl-devel
+> 
+> Are two different names displayed?  If so, can you install by using the more 
+> detailed name?
+
+$ urpmq --whatprovides libopenssl-devel
+lib64openssl-devel|lib64openssl-devel|lib64openssl-devel|lib64openssl-devel
+
+Which doesn't look right to me.
+
+Regards
+
+Antoine.
+
+
+
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[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem

+ Kevin R. Bulgrien + kbulgrien at att.net +
+ Thu Apr 12 13:51:25 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On Thursday, April 12, 2012 06:43:58 am Antoine Pitrou wrote:
+> On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:37:56 -0500
+> 
+> "Kevin R. Bulgrien" <kbulgrien at att.net> wrote:
+> > On Thursday, April 12, 2012 04:51:05 am Antoine Pitrou wrote:
+> > > On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:18:18 +0200
+> > > 
+> > > Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net> wrote:
+> > > > Une erreur est survenue pendant l'installation des paquetages :
+> > > > 
+> > > > le fichier /usr/include/openssl/cms.h de l'installation de
+> > > > lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.x86_64 entre en conflit avec le
+> > > > fichier du paquetage libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.i586
+> > > > 
+> > > > le fichier /usr/include/openssl/cms.h de l'installation de
+> > > > libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.i586 entre en conflit avec le
+> > > > fichier du paquetage lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.x86_64
+> > > 
+> > > I removed libopenssl-devel so that the upgrade goes fine.
+> > > Now I can't reinstall it:
+> > > https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5365
+> > > 
+> > > Damn.
+> > > 
+> > > Antoine.
+> > 
+> > What happens when you run:
+> > 
+> > $ urpmq --whatprovides libopenssl-devel
+> > 
+> > Are two different names displayed?  If so, can you install by using the
+> > more detailed name?
+> 
+> $ urpmq --whatprovides libopenssl-devel
+> lib64openssl-devel|lib64openssl-devel|lib64openssl-devel|lib64openssl-devel
+> 
+> Which doesn't look right to me.
+> 
+> Regards
+> 
+> Antoine.
+
+How about the output of:
+
+$ urpmq --list-media
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem

+ Antoine Pitrou + solipsis at pitrou.net +
+ Thu Apr 12 14:24:49 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:51:25 -0500
+"Kevin R. Bulgrien" <kbulgrien at att.net> wrote:
+> > 
+> > $ urpmq --whatprovides libopenssl-devel
+> > lib64openssl-devel|lib64openssl-devel|lib64openssl-devel|lib64openssl-devel
+> > 
+> > Which doesn't look right to me.
+> > 
+> > Regards
+> > 
+> > Antoine.
+> 
+> How about the output of:
+> 
+> $ urpmq --list-media
+
+$ urpmq --list-media
+Mageia - 1 - x86_64 DVD
+Core Release
+Core Release Debug
+Core Updates
+Core Updates Debug
+Core Updates Testing
+Core Updates Testing Debug
+Core Backports
+Core Backports Debug
+Core Backports Testing
+Core Backports Testing Debug
+Nonfree Release
+Nonfree Release Debug
+Nonfree Updates
+Nonfree Updates Debug
+Nonfree Updates Testing
+Nonfree Updates Testing Debug
+Nonfree Backports
+Nonfree Backports Debug
+Nonfree Backports Testing
+Nonfree Backports Testing Debug
+Tainted Release
+Tainted Release Debug
+Tainted Updates
+Tainted Updates Debug
+Tainted Updates Testing
+Tainted Updates Testing Debug
+Tainted Backports
+Tainted Backports Debug
+Tainted Backports Testing
+Tainted Backports Testing Debug
+Core 32bit Release
+Core 32bit Release Debug
+Core 32bit Updates
+Core 32bit Updates Debug
+Core 32bit Updates Testing
+Core 32bit Updates Testing Debug
+Core 32bit Backports
+Core 32bit Backports Debug
+Core 32bit Backports Testing
+Core 32bit Backports Testing Debug
+
+
+Regards
+
+Antoine.
+
+
+
+ + +
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[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)

+ Rolf Pedersen + rolfpedersen at mindspring.com +
+ Thu Apr 12 16:05:23 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
TJ <andrewsfarm at ...> writes:
+
+> 
+> On 04/11/2012 01:27 PM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+> > 2012/4/11 Anne Wilson<annew at ...>:
+> >>
+> >> On 10/04/12 20:53, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote:
+> >>> On Tuesday 10 Apr 2012 10:57 my mailbox was graced by a message
+> >>> from Anne Wilson who wrote:
+> >>>> True indeed, but if someone wants to commit suicide we do have a
+> >>>> moral duty not to supply the gun and teach him how to load it.
+> >>>
+> >>> We may have a duty to point out to him that we think his idea is
+> >>> not good, but if he is decided, our duty then is to help him,
+> >>> including acting as kaishakunin if he asks us to.
+> >>>
+> >> Your idea of moral duty is obviously different from mine.  I doubt if
+> >> the law would see it your way either.
+> >>
+> >
+> > Depends on what you see in Mageia. Is Mageia a mere provider of a
+> > technical system who does not care further than uploading the
+> > software? If so we don't need to discuss questions, we don't need to
+> > give warnings about anything, etc. Or do we have a sense of moral duty
+> > which goes beyond that? I am happy to see the decision of Mageia
+> > showing that they care.
+> >
+> Whether I agree with the results or not, I get annoyed when people 
+> presume to do my risk assessments for me. I would rather do it myself in 
+> most cases. And this is one of those cases.
+> 
+> TJ
+> 
+I didn't see any agreement, rebuttal, or acknowledgment of my suggestion that
+"there are consequences from "user's choice" resulting in a machine distributing
+spam, bots, malware, including damage to the reputation/adoption of FOSS, that
+reach beyond the demise of one individual"
+
+You have given this a lot of thought.  Perhaps you could answer.  To put it
+another way, if a user of a networked machine performs a risk assessment that
+leads him to conclude it's safe to open an email attachment, for example, and
+
+1. his machine has not been configured to prevent the deployment of the malware
+embedded in that attachment,
+2. his networked machine proceeds to distribute the effects of that malware
+across the internet,
+3. many thousands of machines are exposed to/infected with this unwanted
+software and/or more tangentially compromised by such consequences of
+administrative privileges exposed to the internet as spam or DDOS, e.g.
+
+is there not more than just bad outcomes for the bad choices of the,
+notwithstanding, annoyed, however, mistaken risk assessor?
+
+Sure, my example sounds exactly like a description of the environment created by
+Microsoft, who, apparently, did not anticipate all the consequences of writing
+software such that it is more easy to run.  Sure, Linux is not Windows (and I'd
+like to see it stay that way).  Sure, Linux is touted as more secure than
+Windows and does not, yet, have such a horrific history of waste and
+destruction.  However, there are vulnerabilities in Linux that are continuously
+being patched and, should Linux come to be run on a more significant percentage
+of machines, the number of eyes of ne'er-do-wells scrutinizing those
+vulnerabilities will, most likely, increase.
+
+Are the parallels not clear to anyone else?  Are you suggesting I should be
+comfortable to trust the risk assessment of each and every user who would eschew
+the wisdom of Unix-->Minix-->Linux developers and employ risky policy?  I am
+not.  Do you believe that what happens on one machine has no potential effect on
+any of the other connected machines, so Linux should be made to be whatever any
+consumer of FOSS might like?  I do not.   To sum, again, Linux is not merely a
+matter of an individual's choice.  
+Rolf
+
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)

+ Renaud (Ron) Olgiati + renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org +
+ Thu Apr 12 17:03:54 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On Thursday 12 Apr 2012 10:05 my mailbox was graced by a message from Rolf 
+Pedersen who wrote:
+>  To sum, again, Linux is not merely a matter of an individual's choice.  
+
+So you will impose your choices on a community, 
+because you know better than they do ?
+
+"Resistance is futile..."
+ 
+Cheers,
+ 
+Ron.
+-- 
+                        Silent enim leges inter arma.
+                             -- Marcus Tullius Cicero
+                                    
+                   -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
+
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)

+ Wolfgang Bornath + molch.b at googlemail.com +
+ Thu Apr 12 19:01:57 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
2012/4/12 Renaud (Ron) Olgiati <renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org>:
+> On Thursday 12 Apr 2012 10:05 my mailbox was graced by a message from Rolf
+> Pedersen who wrote:
+>>  To sum, again, Linux is not merely a matter of an individual's choice.
+>
+> So you will impose your choices on a community,
+> because you know better than they do ?
+
+Yes. And as a member of this community in such a case I have not the
+slightest problem with that.
+1. I have no technical background, not on paper nor in reality. Ergo I
+am not qualified to do a risk assessment like the developers are able
+to do (and are doing it for me).
+2. I am one, the developpers of FOSS (even in a rather small group
+like at Mageia) are a swarm with a level of knowledge which is more
+than any non-technical user can achieve.
+3. If I had a technical skills to do such a valid risk assessment then
+I'd also be able to change everything those developpers did.
+
+So, nobody imposes anything on you or anybody else where it is not
+necessary.  This is Linux, you can change everything you don't like if
+you have the necessary skills. If you don't have the needed skills you
+are a valid object of the choice of the expert's measurements.
+
+Let me repeat a quote which matches the situation much better than a
+misplaced movie quote:
+"Only kids who know not (yet) complain about wearing a helmet when
+riding their bicycle."
+
+-- 
+wobo
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)

+ Rolf Pedersen + rolfpedersen at mindspring.com +
+ Thu Apr 12 19:21:45 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On 04/12/2012 08:03 AM, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote:
+> On Thursday 12 Apr 2012 10:05 my mailbox was graced by a message from Rolf
+> Pedersen who wrote:
+>>   To sum, again, Linux is not merely a matter of an individual's choice.
+>
+> So you will impose your choices on a community,
+> because you know better than they do ?
+>
+> "Resistance is futile..."
+>
+> Cheers,
+>
+> Ron.
+
+Nonsense.  I spoke a reasoned opinion about overarching concerns of a 
+community versus unsupported claims, such as this, that these choices 
+are merely a personal matter.  I have no power to impose anything, save 
+an expression of my point of view, within constraints.  The security 
+policies, in general, have been in place for a long time for good, 
+traditional reasons.  If there is any imposition on community it is the 
+unfounded demand for ignoring these reasons.  Even the tiny bite you 
+excised from my post has no logical relation to your insinuation.  Bah. 
+  Such dishonest straw dogs as this are what annoy *me*.
+Rolf
+
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot

+ Olav Vitters + olav at vitters.nl +
+ Thu Apr 12 20:52:58 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 01:14:25PM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+> You are right with the criterium "an application I use". But here we
+> are talking about handbooks of every single little KDE app being
+> forced upon the user, whether he wants/needs it or not.
+
+Suggest to refrain from saying that you're forced. I don't see how
+you're being forced what I think is the common understanding of it
+(http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/force). Nobody is forcing you to install
+this (not having an option != forcing) and you have the freedom to
+either change (e.g. rm -rf). Saying you're being forced when clearly
+this is not forcing is IMO incorrect.
+
+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
+
+ + + + +
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[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)

+ Oliver Burger + oliver.bgr at googlemail.com +
+ Thu Apr 12 22:15:54 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
Am 12.04.2012 19:21, schrieb Rolf Pedersen:
+> On 04/12/2012 08:03 AM, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote:
+>> On Thursday 12 Apr 2012 10:05 my mailbox was graced by a message from
+>> Rolf
+>> Pedersen who wrote:
+>>> To sum, again, Linux is not merely a matter of an individual's choice.
+>>
+>> So you will impose your choices on a community,
+>> because you know better than they do ?
+>>
+>> "Resistance is futile..."
+>>
+>> Cheers,
+>>
+>> Ron.
+>
+> Nonsense. I spoke a reasoned opinion about overarching concerns of a
+> community versus unsupported claims, such as this, that these choices
+> are merely a personal matter. I have no power to impose anything, save
+> an expression of my point of view, within constraints. The security
+> policies, in general, have been in place for a long time for good,
+> traditional reasons. If there is any imposition on community it is the
+> unfounded demand for ignoring these reasons. Even the tiny bite you
+> excised from my post has no logical relation to your insinuation. Bah.
+> Such dishonest straw dogs as this are what annoy *me*.
+> Rolf
+>
+Apart from not seeing any sense in logging into a de as root (you can 
+always start single applications as root, if you need them), I was 
+looking into the changelog and the patches and saw nothing about 
+disabling the root login.
+So I have to assume it's an upstream change and if you want to discuss 
+it, best do it there...
+
+Oliver
+
+ + +
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[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)

+ Olav Vitters + olav at vitters.nl +
+ Thu Apr 12 22:22:23 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:19:27AM -0400, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote:
+> And remember too that Linux is all about user's choice; none of the "We are 
+> XXXXX of Borg, resistance is futile, you will do exactly what we tell you".
+
+http://www.islinuxaboutchoice.com/
+
+Aside from above, what is the benefit of having loads of options to me?
+I just want it to work. If there is an option I have to check before it
+works then it requires work to make it just work.
+
+I want the freedom that source code gives me. Choice? Don't care.
+
+Maybe I should subscribe to mageia-really-offtopic ;)
+
+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
+
+ + +
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