[Mageia-discuss] Package management system

Wed Sep 29 20:06:32 CEST 2010

On Wednesday 29 September 2010 07:23:28 Renaud MICHEL wrote:
+> On mercredi 29 septembre 2010 at 01:47, Richard wrote :
+> > Does this mean that I can find the KDE packages which "depend" on Pulse
+> > and  re-package them such that Pulse is only "recommended"?
+>
+> Here (2010.1 x86_64) KDE does not have a dependency on pulse audio.
+> Gnome has, because pulseaudio (actually the package is pulseaudio-esound-
+> compat) provides esound, which is required by gnome.
+>
+Sorry I was so careless in my comment. I was working from memory and those 
+memories are heavily dosed with frustration and annoyance. What I should have 
+done is give a concrete example. When I select lib64pulseaudio0 for removal, 
+rpmdrake lists 526 dependencies (direct and, presumably, indirect) which must 
+also be removed. 
+
+Only 39 of these have the string "kde" in the package name, but some of these 
+are quite central to the operation of KDE;
+
+kdepasswd-4.4.3
+kdenetwork4-core-4.4.3
+kdemultimedia4-core-4.4.3
+kdegraphics4-core-4.4.3
+kdegames4-core-4.4.3
+kdeutils4-core-4.4.3
+kdelibs4-core-4.4.3
+
+...for example.
+
+Many many more are kde applications. This is 2010.1 x86_64
+>
+> Anyway, you can simply disable pulseaudio from the control center, so it is
+> not a problem to have the package still lying around.
+
+That is, of course, the first thing I do when installing new systems. I don't 
+think that I can agree that it is not a problem for me to have all of this 
+Pulse stuff lying around. I find it quite tricky enough to get all required 
+applications working as I want them without having to worry about whether 
+something somewhere thinks it can still use Pulse because the support files 
+are still present.
+
+Worse still are the applications which presume Pulse must be present and are 
+configured with that incorrect default assumption, but that's another gripe 
+for another place.
+
+Richard
+
+
+