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[Mageia-dev] Cinnamon

+ Colin Guthrie + mageia at colin.guthr.ie +
+ Mon Nov 26 15:11:25 CET 2012 +

+
+ +
Hi,
+
+[friendly request: please try and post in plain text to mailing lists -
+makes it much easier when you're reading numerous different messages
+every day to not have to adapt to the different styles]
+
+
+Firstly thanks for your work.
+
+'Twas brillig, and Joseph Wang at 26/11/12 13:38 did gyre and gimble:
+> 
+> 
+>     There has already been zillions of discussions about this. We will not
+>     have Cinnamon. We already have enough environments and not enough
+>     maintainers. And it will cause troubles maintaining different versions.
+> 
+> 
+> I volunteer to maintain cinnamon.  I've already ported it from fedora. 
+> I did
+> it because no one told me not to do it.
+
+Unfortunately this has been discussed a few times in the past on this
+list. Your mentor should maybe have highlighted this to you when you
+discussed packaging cinnamon with them. They maybe missed these
+discussions also however.
+
+> 
+>     Please try to follow this. An open source project does not mean anybody
+>     can do whatever he wants. We must keep some kind of logic and stay
+>     realistic given the resources we have at the moment.
+> 
+> 
+> There's this thing about not pushing away resources that are being
+> volunteered.
+
+This is true, and there is no doubt that we need more resources, but in
+this case it could cost more than it gains. We have had issues in the
+past of the packages for these alternative DEs causing issues for the
+core DEs due to the packages satisfying dep's required by the core packages.
+
+So while you may have packaged Cinnamon and tested that *it* works, have
+you tested it in a repository along with all the other packages we have,
+installing e.g. a gnome install and double checking that none of the
+cinnamon packages have been pulled in to satisfy deps (incorrectly)?
+
+Perhaps you have, but the "resources" required to support a new DE is
+not simply on the packaging. It's in the QA and it's in the testing of
+the fallout to other installs when those packages simply exist in the
+repos. This is what often takes the most resources.
+
+There is a lot more to this than simply making a bunch of packages.
+
+> I've packaged cinnamon because I want to install it on my own machine. I
+> spent
+> 10-12 hours a day taking orders from my boss, and working on community
+> projects
+> is the way that I relax.  If you want to use my work then that's great. 
+> If it turns out
+> that the X hours that I put into making cinnamon work on mageia is a
+> waste, then
+> I'll wipe mageia and install fedora or ubuntu or scientific linux or mint.
+> 
+> I have very little tolerance for politics or long winded discussions or
+> strategy
+> discussion.  I get enough of that in my day job.  I've just packaged
+> cinnamon and
+> nemo.  If someone says thank you, provides some suggestions for fixing
+> things,
+> and then takes it, I'll be happy.  If not, then I'll wipe my disk and
+> work on another distro.
+> 
+> So what do you want me to do?
+
+Well you've clearly put a lot of work into this. While we have decided
+in the short term to not support cinnamon, this is not necessarily a
+"forever" decision, however at this stage of the release, it's likely
+one that will not be able to be reverted until post-mga3, and even then
+there is no guarantee.
+
+All of your work is in Subversion. I'm personally fine if they stay
+there and are not svn rm'ed and you can continue to keep them up-to-date
+as per your own uses should you wish.
+
+If you are keen to push this through, then I'm afraid you likely will
+have to get involved in discussions about it.
+
+
+Also, if you really do wish to have this supported, then you should
+likely keep on packaging and hopefully find some of the many
+unmaintained packages to adopt and prove that you will be sticking
+around for a while and not abandon maintenance in the future for
+whatever reason.
+
+
+Cheers
+
+Col
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+http://colin.guthr.ie/
+
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+  Tribalogic Limited http://www.tribalogic.net/
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