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I think a preamble is needed so +be patient, please. If you have no interest, jump to =AdminPanel= :-) + +=Preamble= + +This feature results from the merge of the DrakXtoolsReview feature +(started by Angelo and me) to the Steven's one because of the common aims. + +DrakXtoolsReview was aiming to make mcc (and the drakx* tools more in +general) indipendent from gtk: +- - to avoid the installation of gtk stuff on qt-oriented installations +and viceversa +- - to avoid the installation of gtk stuff on text-oriented +installations (i.e. without gui at all) +- - to make drakx* tools like rpmdrake usable from a text user interface +(tui, e.g. curses, console mode). + +Important note: we are trying to avoid a full rewrite of the code +already available to reduce our efforts also considering that the +current tools are still working fine. That's why we mainly used perl. + +After a few weeks of work to add qt support to drakx we (anaselli and +me) have faced some big issues mainly related to the different ways +gtk and qt do their job. + +Here it comes UIAbastraction4mcc and its added value: the YUI library. +YUI is a library aiming to simplify the developers lifes allowing them +to write code once and executing it as a qt, gtk or ncurses +application. This lib was originally developed by SuSE for its tools +(i.e. yast). + +So we decided to join our forces and start working on this new +subject, currently known as AdminPanel. + +I started packaging libyui and its bindings (perl, python, ruby) +immediately while Steven (aka tuxta) and Angelo began writing a lot of +(very readable) perl code to build the foundations of AdminPanel. + +After some initial test we faced some nasty bug imputable to yui. +That's why Angelo (anaselli) started contributing a lot of C++ +code/patches to the upstream project (we can almost consider himself +the upstream :-P ). Angelo does also a great job helping me +maintaining the yui packages for Mageia. + +Once base classes were complete, Angelo wrote a simple test module +using C++ and YUI, demonstrating that adminpanel was working +correctly, while I wrote a perl module -namely Privileges- allowing +AdminPanel to acquire administrator privileges (i.e. think at how the +current Mageia Control Center behaves when it ask you for the root +password). The current MCC solution works with pam only while the +current implementation of Privileges allows adminpanel to gain root +privileges using three "backends": +- - sudo +- - polkit +- - pam +It's not only a matter of porting but we also try to improve things +when we are able to do it. + +I've to thanks Guillaume Rousse (guillomovitch) for his precious +feedbacks on this side. + +=AdminPanel= + +Currently AdminPanel[3] can be considered like a launcher namely an +application able to collect and execute other applications. + +There comes the hard part of the job: trying to "migrate" current +tools to the new framework (yui). +Angelo has already successfully ported logdrake (new name logviewer) +and he found the way of improve it adding a basic support to +journalctl (man journalctl). +I'm currently working on rpmdragora, the rpmdrake port to yui, but it +will require much more time compared to logdrake. It's not only a +matter of changing gtk methods with the yui counterparts, we often +need to rewrite entire routines used to build and/or to populate +graphical items (labels, tables, views, etc). +Yesterday we released some screenshot of rpmdragora, but a lot of work +is still needed to make it fully functional. + +Important note: we used different application names to avoid confusion +between the tools but trying to preserve -when possible- the roots. + +Another important note: as already said, libyui give us the ability to +run an application using two different GUIs or a TUI but this ability +has a cost: nice themes and shiny styles are not always portable; +Angelo is working on the YUI source code to improve also this aspect. + +- From a i18n perspective (I'm also part of the i18n-it team after all) +I want to highlight the ability to reuse for example the translations +already available for rpmdrake with no extra efforts. We still need to +deeply investigate this aspect but, as you can see from the Angelo's +screenshots[4] of logviewer, it appears already localized (Italian in +that case). + +I hope I've been thorough and not too boring :-P +If you have answers feel free to ask :-) + +Regards + +[1] <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:UiAbstraction4mcc">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:UiAbstraction4mcc</A> +[2] <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:DrakXtoolsReview">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:DrakXtoolsReview</A> +[3] <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/AdminPanel/trunk/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/AdminPanel/trunk/</A> +[4] <A HREF="https://plus.google.com/u/0/109802167766760530845/posts/4dwkYHrd5tX">https://plus.google.com/u/0/109802167766760530845/posts/4dwkYHrd5tX</A> + +/matteo +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - <A HREF="http://enigmail.mozdev.org/">http://enigmail.mozdev.org/</A> + +iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQ7D+GAAoJED3LowjDDWbNbMcIAKAc/+UKHEJDj4FauEGnEqNN +n69qFxYizSTa4w8Y2Ypx7+Zt7WKbb5lwrzXPnOnbsTpGGnoo9dPO75dYy/OwtGdn +TfFpTszjjle3MLdVsXorvW5vaI5GrpxbkdM32IciAl2CsQMxGkHN/ukCSuThRwRw +Pdu0p0/3ebY0/NT2brPUaGFuEs5whijvAN10+57CC5OW4aLaDL8P4ix77Edf/PTp +QzU82Qj4b0SEViP7hAHVr7NeQjhml95qGFcNWZcl+1KF2qq88802aYWpPYyZf7Rb +5cnz6V57k4pXvIN9DrMn/yWYySuwaH4YjB674fD8TU6ug3AYcnNlFhiOp9EM0OM= +=7YCn +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003823.html">[Mageia-i18n] ro translations +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003826.html">[Mageia-i18n] rpmdragora: AdminPanel and the UIAbastraction4mcc feature +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3824">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3824">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3824">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3824">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">More information about the Mageia-i18n +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |