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Register a personal account at <A HREF="https://identity.mageia.org/">https://identity.mageia.org/</A> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > 1.5 : ask to be added to the proper i18n group ( or you will face "your +</I>><i> > account is expired" error message ) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Won't it be better that willing translator is added automatically to the +</I>><i> "proper group" after he/she has joined the team (i.e. either after clicking +</I>><i> to join or after coordinator has approved him/her)? It would be more +</I>><i> logical, woudn't it? +</I> +Short answer, that's a technical limitation, tx do not know how to +change this in ldap. + +Long answer, for now, we do have : +- a list of accounts in a ldap directory, used everywhere ( ie, it can +be used from bugzilla to forum and svn ). + +- modification of the directory is only done by catdap ( the software +running behind the website identity.mageia.org ). We did as this is +easier at first to secure everything on one point, but we could indeed +relax this to let some group be writable. + +- we do have a list of group, with various access right ( for those +technically inclined, the ldap configuration of transifex is here : +<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/transifex/templates/45-ldap.conf?revision=1291&view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/transifex/templates/45-ldap.conf?revision=1291&view=markup</A> ). + +On the topic of tx, there is 3 access levels ( like any django +application, django being a web framework, a lists of modules used by +transifex ): + - active users, + - staff + - admin + +active users can log and use the website. + +staff can modify some stuff, in the case of ldap : +add project, add ressources, and some others things + +admins can do anything. + +Tx admin group is mapped to the current sysadmin team in ldap. + +Tx staff are people in the mga-i18n-commiters ldap group, and this is +decided by each team ( ie the local team leader usually ). That the +concept of those that can commit translation to svn. + +Active users are people in the mga-i18n ldap group, which is for the +moment filled by hand. People ask to their team to be translator, the +team leader send it to the i18n leaders ( wobo/oliver) that send it to a +sysadmin ( technically any of the admin could do it but it seems to be +me each time ). + + +There is room for improvement for sure, and being a lazy sysadmin, the +first one would be to remove me from the equation, ie let wobo and +oliver directly edit ldap for the i18n group. While I think this is +doable, we need a interface for that, and we didn't have time to look at +it. + +The second step would to cut the middle man again and let people be +approved by the local team leader. This one would unfortunately requires +to either patch transifex ( may be intrusive ), or modify catdap ( that +we plan to do too ). So it may take a substantial amount of time before +it happen unless someone start to code right now ( or dig to tx and see +it already do, i didn't really searched much ). + + +So yes, we can find a better process, and we likely will but we have +work to do for that, and time is a scarce ressource. We felt it was more +important to have thing running fast, relatively well and painless to +change rather than having the perfect setup if it required to wait a +long time. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001097.html">[Mageia-i18n] Tx - short guide and faq +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001100.html">[Mageia-i18n] Tx - short guide and faq +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1099">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1099">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1099">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1099">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">More information about the Mageia-i18n +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |