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There was no "incomplete transfer of information". +2. Nobody was excluded or "not fully informed" unless he missed all +the numerous information on all possible Mageia related places all +over the net. But in this case he should have missed the complete +issue at all. + +Wherever you looked at any time during the whole proposal stage you +met a pointer to the guidelines - except if you never looked at the +blog article about the logo process, never looked into the mailing +list discussions, but only read about the logo issue on one single +tweet or on a poorly edited 3rd-party website where they reported +about the logo and gave the upload directions but not the link to the +guidelines. I must admit that I saw such a website myself (in German). +We will never ever be able to avoid such cases, short of answering +every single proposition with a detailed mail, still we can't be sure +that the person in question will read that mail. + +About all those comments (BTW: there are more comments in favor of the +decision) - does it occur to you that those who are complaining only +started to care about the whole thing after the show? IMHO these +complaints are the usual wave of complaints which will wash the beach +after each and every decision, no matter how transparent or democratic +the decision finding process was. + +One nice example: on our website (mandrivauser.de) we had a pointer to +a competition (writing an article for our magazine), the pointer was +printed in fat red letters and was placed in the header of the forum +page (the most visited part of the whole website) for more than 6 +weeks. After the deadline was over and we announced the results there +were people who complained, they would have participated if they only +knew... + +What I want to say: we do believe that people who are interested in +our project are able to read more than one tweet before they design, +upload and never look back. + +If you still insist, may be next occasion you should be appointed to +organize the whole thing and do all that what you think has been +missed this time. This would have 2 benefits: first you will see how +much extra work you are proposing and second you will see that there +will not be one single complaint less than this time. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003203.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003205.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3204">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3204">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3204">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3204">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |