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Insert such a list of options but give it an "expert" tag. +</I>><i> >>> 3. The most important: make a search result visible also if the result +</I>><i> >>> is something which would be hidden otherwise. +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> Example: +</I>><i> >>> gstreamer-plugin-devel (don't care about the name) would be hidden in +</I>><i> >>> standard view. But if the user writes "gstreamer" into the search +</I>><i> >>> field it shouold be displayed in the search result view. +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> This way we could even keep the current order with "programs with gui" +</I>><i> >>> as default. When the user no searches for 'mc' he will see it in the +</I>><i> >>> list of search results, although 'mc' would not be displayed in +</I>><i> >>> "Programs with GUI" view. +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> Does anybody understand what I wrote? Can't explain it in better words. +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> :) +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> Excellent point. This mirrors something I suggested in another thread +</I>><i> >> about rpmdrake and repositories. Show anything, if it's asked for, +</I>><i> >> whether the source is "disabled" or not. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > OTOH for new users, this overwelming choice of programs can be quite +</I>><i> > overwelming. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I would propose to have a bydefault hiding of most of the programs (more +</I>><i> > or less like now); but when once clicked off, to be remembered for next +</I>><i> > time. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Umm, you *did* read the bit about how the would existing "hidden" +</I>><i> choices would be hidden by default ? +</I> +maybe not, there's a lot of email... + +><i> > OR +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > when you search and find nothing; to get a display that the view is +</I>><i> > switched to all; because it couldn't find your package +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, maybe a popup to the effect that if you change your view you might +</I>><i> see what you wanted... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > OR +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > have the results in two collapsable regions; where the first one contains +</I>><i> > the "GUI" packages and the 2nd is collapsed by default (when the first +</I>><i> > one is empty, it's collapsed and the 2nd one is open? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think the above popup would do. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > I want this to be usefull for new users (while not being unusefull for +</I>><i> > contributers like myself) my dad, for instance, absolutely loves that by +</I>><i> > default the GUI packages are listed; because he never uses any console. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hmm. Does your dad really care, or are you just projecting onto him ? +</I>><i> In other words, did he actually use rpmdrake back when "All" was the +</I>><i> default and have a problem with it, or are you just assuming that he'd +</I>><i> want GUI packages by default because of what you know he likes ? +</I> +i put him on Mandriva for a while now; and he's the type that doesn't know +much about computers, but likes to experiment a little, and install and try +some programs; since he never uses konsole; in the past he's installed quite +some programs that he couldn't find in the menu. + +He did mention that he found it odd that there were less programs, (he +remembered there being more programs), but they were almost all locatable in +the menu, and i specifically remember him mentioning this to me. +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002689.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002694.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2690">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2690">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2690">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2690">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |