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Hodgins skrev 24.10.2010 11:07: +><i> On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 02:08:18 -0400, Thomas Backlund<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tmb at iki.fi</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> You dont need to find the packager... +</I>>><i> Just enter a bug (enhancement) report and BugZilla and it will know... +</I>>><i> (and if bugzilla is way off, Triage will assign it...) +</I>>><i> Thats all that is needed... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I wish that were true. Actual bug reports, ... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=45605">https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=45605</A> +</I>><i> Reported almost two years ago. Still present in Mandriva. +</I>><i> Minor, cosmetic bug, but still a bug. +</I>><i> +</I> +Yeah, +this one points out one known problem... + +we have more packages than maintainers, and if no maintainer steps up, +the conclusion Pacho made is unfortunately true. + + +><i> <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=51794">https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=51794</A> +</I>><i> Reported in 2010.1 alpha 1. Still present in final release. +</I>><i> +</I> +Well, one problem in this is that its not easy to reproduce, +as I know several users do test the installer, me included both +with DHCP and with static IP and it has always worked for me... + +But this bug should have been triaged more and asked for a installer +bug report (typing "bug" and it would dump data to either floppy or usb) + +><i> I've participated in the testing of every release, since mdk 10. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> During the alpha/beta testing of 2010.1, I gave up testing, and +</I>><i> reporting bugs. In my opinion, the primary goal of those tests +</I>><i> should be getting the installer working correctly. All other +</I>><i> bugs can be be fixed, by updates. Only one of the bugs I reported +</I>><i> on the alpha 1 installer was fixed before the actual release. +</I>><i> +</I> +The installer is tested many times, but unless someone can either +reproduce it, or ask for the right info, it wont be fixed. + +><i> Every time I spent 26 hours downloading the installation dvd, after +</I>><i> alpha 1, and testing the install, seemed like a complete waste of +</I>><i> my time. I will not participate in Mandriva alpha/beta testing +</I>><i> anymore, due to this. +</I>><i> +</I> +Sad to hear, even if I do understand your frustration. + +><i> I'm hoping Mageia will place a much higher priority on getting +</I>><i> the installer right. I do understand, that it will likely have +</I>><i> very few developers assigned to it, as most will be busy getting +</I>><i> all of their other packages ready, but really, it goes into the +</I>><i> iso that gets released, and can not be fixed by updates. It +</I>><i> should be the highest priority part of the distribution. +</I>><i> +</I> +It's wery important yes... + +><i> Any problems with the installer will not be fixable, till the +</I>><i> next release. +</I>><i> +</I> +Here I'd like us to change the procedure to update the installer +on the mirrors, so you can then start from an updated boot.iso, +get the updated installer and then point it to the initial cd/dvd +for the rpms. + +I've done this myself in the past, so I know it atleast used to work. + +><i> I'm also hoping you will not take this as a personal insult. I +</I>><i> was frustrated enough by the above, that I was already looking +</I>><i> for a better distribution, when Mageia was announced. I'm sure +</I>><i> whoever was responsible for the installer, was doing the best +</I>><i> they could, with their workload on other packages, but it does +</I>><i> get annoying, when bugs, that clearly should be high priority, +</I>><i> do not get fixed. Replying to your message above, seemed like +</I>><i> a good opportunity, to let out this rant. +</I>><i> +</I> +It's no insult when pointing out problems and potential improvements... +We should always be open to changes, and if sometimes a change is not +desired, clearly explain why... + + +><i> As to your actual message, bug reports don't always work, and +</I>><i> when they don't, the users get very frustrated. +</I>><i> +</I> +Very true, + +this is a normal feeling when one have a bug report or an issue +with something be it programs, computers, cars, houses or whatever... + +if no satisfying response (or none at all) then most people get +frustrated... + +-- +Thomas +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002597.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002593.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2600">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2600">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2600">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2600">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |