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It's not going to be some people +</I>>><i> > will be in charge of decision making forever. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > If you look at the association board itself, you'll see that it'll be +</I>>><i> > replaced by third every year; it's built this way. So even a new +</I>>><i> > packager, once he proves his commitment/competence, becomes an old +</I>>><i> > packager. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That is o.k., you (or it's better tosay we) just have tomake sure, there are +</I>><i> nounneccessary obstacles fora padawan tobecome a master. +</I>><i> I wasjust concerned by Romains words in his original posting +</I>>><i> > > The idea is that Masters have voting power within the team (for +</I>>><i> > > decisions or leader election) +</I>>><i> > > [...] +</I>>><i> > > Apprentices have no voice yet +</I>><i> That sounded a lotlike creating two castes, one with power, one without. But +</I>><i> as he wrote later, it was just a matter of putting it in the wrong words. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> > Note that a period of time is needed for a new guy who starts +</I>>><i> > working/contributing in a new place to gain people's trust/confidence. +</I>>><i> > (trust is gained not given, right?). +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > (For example you, in MUD, you have a packaging team; say you, +</I>>><i> > doktor5000 and tigger-gg are the old packagers (though girls never get +</I>>><i> > older than 30 ;)); a new guy wants to contribute, he must will take +</I>>><i> > some time to prove his worth / that he can be trusted / competence +</I>>><i> > before you give him decision-making privileges. He'll be the new guy +</I>>><i> > until a new new guy joins.). +</I>><i> That's logical and as I wrote, I have no problemat all with being tutored by +</I>><i> some experienced packager who will be able to teach me many things I don't +</I>><i> know yet. +</I>><i> After all "you have much to learn, young padawan". +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> P.S. I forgot to say I like the term "padawans" too. +</I>><i> :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Oliver +</I>><i> +</I> +As you may know, i'm not an experienced packager but the only Mandriva +Turkiye community repo packager and maintainer; i'd like to be trained +by experienced packagers (masters) and become padawan. So i think +masters-padawans structure is a good beginning. Also, i think masters +should listen and try to cope with padawans opinions but at least at +the beginning, say until the first release, masters should make +decisions as padawans are not well know build system and deeper +components of the distro. "May the force be with you" :) + +My 2 cents... +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002245.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia governance model draft +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002234.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia governance model draft +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2250">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2250">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2250">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2250">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |