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You can also add some administrative fees +</I>><i> > ( bank account, sending letter to association members, etc ). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > So the bare minimum is quite low. But with it, you do not do much. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > With more money, well, better and more servers can be bought ( faster +</I>><i> > build, more services, spare hardware in case of problem ), developers +</I>><i> > travel and so on. For example, Opensuse have invited us to come at their +</I>><i> > conference in Nuremberg, but that's a little bit too far and expensive +</I>><i> > for me, so I guess I will have to decline. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > You can also see how Mozilla foundation, or Wikimedia does and spend +</I>><i> > their money, but their need are far greater than ours. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Usually, this is the available funds that decide what can be done, and +</I>><i> > not the reverse. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well written, Michael! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Such explanation makes it easier to open the purse. +</I>><i> Could some text like this be linked from the donation page? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Linked, so it need not be translated every time it is updated; +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It would be nice if it would be updated with what the money is planned to be +</I>><i> used for, and have been used for so far, in the future. +</I> +That's the plan , explain each month what were spent. I hope not a full +blown report, because this would put too much work on the poor soul in +charge of this. But I guess a blog post for this would be ok . + +So far, no money of donation have been spent at all, everything was paid +out of our pocket ( in fact, I fear mainly out of Romain pocket ). +Romain used his gandi account for the DNS, so I assume he paid it too, +and IIRC, he did the various papers for protecting the trademark ( not +so expensive in the long run, but you pay one time for 10 years afaik ). +I think that some very basic tshirts have been made too for Open World +Forum today, I guess this would be for one time 50 euros spending. + +If I take a look at the spending of AUFML or other associations, you +would also count "printing papers" and "printing posters", even if +papers are usually printed at work by members. And for a linux +distribution, money could be spent on cd and sending them ( personally, +I do not like this from a ecological point of view, but well ). + +Right now, Anne, Romain, Damien and others are at the open world forum +in Paris, so if you are in Paris, you can ask them, and if you have the +chance of living elsewhere, you will have to wait if you have more +questions. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001659.html">[Mageia-discuss] keep on donate or AUFML full transparency +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001645.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1665">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1665">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1665">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1665">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |