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[Was: forking mandriva]</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BCooker%5D%20Re%3A%20Transparency%20%26%20open%20invitation%20to%0A%20a%20united%20foundation..%3F%20%5BWas%3A%20forking%20mandriva%5D&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinn%3D6WqMPEzZH%2B_Tmp0ZTJhRwZTQDXN8t6t4e02%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva]">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Sep 21 18:35:31 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000603.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name "mageia"? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000530.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#504">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#504">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#504">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#504">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 17:58, Laprévote Arnaud +<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">arnaud.laprevote at mandriva.com</A>> wrote: +><i> I am definitely in favor of creating a foundation. In fact, I think that it +</I>><i> should have been done much, much sooner. +</I> +Indeed. + +><i> I still think that we must do it. In such a foundation, Mandriva (the +</I>><i> company) would be a voice among others. +</I> +Well... + +><i>From my point of view (which I may share or not with many people from +</I>the pre-board team who can confirm/contradict me here): + + 1. I don't trust Mandriva existing and coming management, neither +investors. Years spent over there as an employee, seeing things from +the inside taught me that this company is, sadly, structurally broken, +from the very top (investors) down to management and its practices - +and for quite some time. Fixing it is an option, although very costly +and requiring exceptionnal skills and commitment from management; I +don't see this over there at this time. + + 2. Mandriva plans are non-existent at this time to me (yesterday's +blog post is empty to me). + +Otherwise, wonder why would we have started this fork? + +This is my personal point of view and I encourage other people +involving themselves into Mageia to be true to themselves and speak +up, in one way or the other. And, I am in no way critical to this +project now, even by being in the "launch" team. And provided an +independant, not-for-profit, community driven structure is set up to +drive the project and keeps control out of the hands of one single +company, I'm happy to leave. + +I just won't welcome a Mandriva person into the first board at least. + +That won't prevent Mandriva developers to contribute or even use +Mageia projects. + +Then, after some time, if Mandriva plans and behaviour confirm +themselves, consolid and seem to match our roadmap and values, sure, +we will welcome collaborators and share the fun - that's what +collaboration is about. + +Collaboration requires trust. Mandriva (as a company, as a structure, +as a project) does not have my trust anymore. Or prove me wrong (you'd +have a hard time). But that's just me. + +Romain +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000603.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name "mageia"? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000530.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#504">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#504">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#504">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#504">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |