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My name is Michael Scherer, and for those +</I>><i> that do not already know me, I am a member of the Mandriva packaging +</I>><i> community, and one of the 4 zarb.org admins. I am also involved in the +</I>><i> launch of the Mageia project since the start some months ago. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I just went back from FUDCON 2010 Zurich yesterday evening and I have +</I>><i> been quite overhelmed by the amount of discussion that is going on at +</I>><i> the moment, and I must confess that I feel more than stressed by +</I>><i> everything that is going on, to the point I still didn't connect to irc +</I>><i> yet. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of course, we are all happy of the tremendous support of the community, +</I>><i> but more than 500 messages in 2 days is a little bit too much for me to +</I>><i> digest, and so I would like to share a few points : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - please try to avoid sending emails like "i would like to help to +</I>><i> $FOO". While we are quite happy to see such mails, they are not very +</I>><i> helpful at the moment since we have to sort everything, and we cannot +</I>><i> accept help on $FOO yet. We have started to think about how we can +</I>><i> manage this, and we will likely soon setup a temporary wiki so people +</I>><i> can add their name ( likely tomorrow, once we have sorted the really +</I>><i> urgent stuff ), but in the mean time, I think people should wait a +</I>><i> little. I would also like to remind you that you can also wait for us to +</I>><i> ask for help, ie once we will need it. Let's say someone want to +</I>><i> translate the distribution in french. If you want to do it, do not say +</I>><i> "I want to translate". Just wait until we have something to translate +</I>><i> when we will ask for help, and then sent the email. Or add your name on +</I>><i> the wiki once it will be set up and announced. By acting this way, we +</I>><i> will be more efficient as we will not have to search back in the +</I>><i> archives to see who offered what, and have less mails to read +</I>><i> ( especially when we are very very busy ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - please try to not start long discussions about technical details +</I>><i> ( like the thread about kernel-libre, about server component ). While of +</I>><i> course we need to have technical discussions as every technical project, +</I>><i> I must remind everybody that we do have any kind of infrastructure for +</I>><i> the moment, so this is a little bit early to start. And discussing it +</I>><i> now when we have nothing to commit or anything is IMHO distracting us +</I>><i> from our priorities, and a source of future frustration for people, as +</I>><i> we shouldn't make any decision in a hurry. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - please do not forget there is some priorities in setting up. As +</I>><i> someone who boast of having non existant skills in website on his blog, +</I>><i> I am quite delighted to see people are eager to do the work, but I think +</I>><i> we should first have a server to host the website before discussing of +</I>><i> the logo. And so one. The same goes for codename, flickr account or +</I>><i> others. So will I am happy to see that people are doing stuff that I +</I>><i> will never be able to do properly, I think they need to realize that we +</I>><i> are not ready to get contributions yet, and so that it will take time, +</I>><i> and waiting can be frustrating, so please cope with us. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - in the same idea, while it is wonderful to see that people want to +</I>><i> start user groups in various country, I must remind the harsh reality +</I>><i> that we have nothing to use yet. So there is no hurry yet. If people are +</I>><i> really interested, I think it would be wiser to plan a little bit more +</I>><i> the creation of the and try to get information on what is needed to +</I>><i> manage a community, by reading books like "The opensource way", or "the +</I>><i> art of community". I have plenty of ressources on the subject for those +</I>><i> that want it, and I think it can take some time to digest. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> and, as a more personal note, please do not register every possible +</I>><i> variation of the domain name. One of the few problems we faced while +</I>><i> searching for a name was that a good part of all names were already +</I>><i> used. And we painfully discovered that good names are a scarce +</I>><i> ressource. So in order to be good netizens, I think we should act +</I>><i> responsibly, and let others people use names even if not related to the +</I>><i> project. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Now, I must be clea, I do not ask to people to stop all discussions, far +</I>><i> from it. You can discuss everything you want, but I would like to remind +</I>><i> everybody to think a little bit of those that will read all the emails +</I>><i> ( like me ), and how much time this will cost to them. If I spend 1 +</I>><i> minute on every mail since the start ( as I need to get them from the +</I>><i> web interface ), and since there was 520 mails in 2 days, this make 8 +</I>><i> hours to read everything properly ( without counting the 15 mails that +</I>><i> appeared in the mean time. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And while I will be reading this, I will not be setting the +</I>><i> infrastructure or anything. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thanks for reading my boring mail and I hope to be back on you soon with +</I>><i> more interesting news. +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Michael Scherer +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I> + + +-- +Alles is onmogelijk, als je het maar wil. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100920/255df05c/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000295.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000283.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#269">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#269">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#269">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#269">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |