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+<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Dear Team Mageia,<br>
+I seriously wanted to love your OS, but I was not even able to connect
+to the internet via wifi.  I&#39;m not green--I&#39;ve been using computers for
+30 years and building them for about 15 of those years.  I have
+installed about every OS known to man, but much as I wanted to LOVE
+Mageia, it just DOESN&#39;T WORK WITH MY WIFI ADAPTER.  After several hours
+of chat logs and discussions, I decided that it wasn&#39;t worth it.  There
+are other OS&#39;s.  I am running a Dell with an Intel i3 and  I have to say
+ that every single OS loads fine and recognizes my wifi adapter with no
+hassle at all. Mageia is different.  It just doesn&#39;t work.  There is so
+much I have to do to get it to recognize my Intel adapter--it&#39;s crazy
+and far beyond what any rational person would go through to get their
+computer connected to the Internet.  I seriously hope that this is fixed
+ because I really look forward to using Mageia.  It looks great, but
+without the ability to get online, it&#39;s useless to me.<br>
+<br>
+Thank you,<br>
+Jason Kaiser<br></div></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Dear Team Mageia,<br>
+I seriously wanted to love your OS, but I was not even able to connect
+to the internet via wifi.  I&#39;m not green--I&#39;ve been using computers for
+30 years and building them for about 15 of those years.  I have
+installed about every OS known to man, but much as I wanted to LOVE
+Mageia, it just DOESN&#39;T WORK WITH MY WIFI ADAPTER.  After several hours
+of chat logs and discussions, I decided that it wasn&#39;t worth it.  There
+are other OS&#39;s.  I am running a Dell with an Intel i3 and  I have to say
+ that every single OS loads fine and recognizes my wifi adapter with no
+hassle at all. Mageia is different.  It just doesn&#39;t work.  There is so
+much I have to do to get it to recognize my Intel adapter--it&#39;s crazy
+and far beyond what any rational person would go through to get their
+computer connected to the Internet.  I seriously hope that this is fixed
+ because I really look forward to using Mageia.  It looks great, but
+without the ability to get online, it&#39;s useless to me.<br>
+<br>
+Thank you,<br>
+Jason Kaiser<br></div></div>
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+<div class="gmail_quote">On 23 March 2013 05:12, AL13N <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:alien@rmail.be" target="_blank">alien@rmail.be</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Op vrijdag 22 maart 2013 07:38:56 schreef Frank Griffin:<br>
+&gt; On 03/22/2013 07:20 AM, Glen Ogilvie wrote:<br>
+[...]<br>
+&gt; &gt; 1. How does the src tar.xz file for drakx-installer-stage2 get<br>
+&gt; &gt; created?   I assume it comes from a<br>
+&gt; &gt; build of svn://<a href="http://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk" target="_blank">svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk</a><br>
+&gt; &gt; &lt;<a href="http://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk" target="_blank">http://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk</a>&gt;, but can&#39;t find how it<br>
+&gt; &gt; ends up as a tar.xz<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I&#39;m maybe about two days ahead of you on this, but here&#39;s what I think<br>
+&gt; happens, FWIW.  You do your checkout, and then in the mdk-stage1<br>
+&gt; subdirectory, do a &quot;make dist-svn&quot;.  This should produce the tar.xz in<br>
+&gt; the mdk-stage1 directory.<br>
+[...]<br>
+<br>
+&quot;make dist&quot; actually...<br>
+<br>
+it will target make &quot;dist-svn&quot; or &quot;make dist-git&quot; depending on if you&#39;re using<br>
+git-svn or not.<br>
+<br>
+be advised that dist-svn uses the BASE and any uncommitted change will not be<br>
+applied.<br>
+<br>
+dist-git however, you can commit without pushing them and that will be used.<br>
+<br></blockquote><div><br>I&#39;ve had a good play around with make dist.<br>It seems to me, like running make dist in the perl-install directory, (svn://<a href="http://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk/">svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk/</a> )<br>
+does not produce the same tar.xz file as found within drakx-installer-stage2 sources.<br>For example, the tar.gz produced by &quot;make dist&quot; does not contain the &quot;kernel&quot;, &quot;perl-install/install&quot; directories, etc.<br>
+Also, inside the tar, the first directory is: &quot;drakxtools-15.29&quot;, rather than &quot;drakx-installer-stage2-15.29&quot;.  It is also<br>only 2.4MB instead of about 4.3MB.<br><br>Any suggestions?<br><br>Regards<br>
+Glen<br></div></div>
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+<div class="gmail_quote">On 23 March 2013 05:12, AL13N <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:alien@rmail.be" target="_blank">alien@rmail.be</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Op vrijdag 22 maart 2013 07:38:56 schreef Frank Griffin:<br>
+&gt; On 03/22/2013 07:20 AM, Glen Ogilvie wrote:<br>
+[...]<br>
+&gt; &gt; 1. How does the src tar.xz file for drakx-installer-stage2 get<br>
+&gt; &gt; created?   I assume it comes from a<br>
+&gt; &gt; build of svn://<a href="http://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk" target="_blank">svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk</a><br>
+&gt; &gt; &lt;<a href="http://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk" target="_blank">http://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk</a>&gt;, but can&#39;t find how it<br>
+&gt; &gt; ends up as a tar.xz<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I&#39;m maybe about two days ahead of you on this, but here&#39;s what I think<br>
+&gt; happens, FWIW.  You do your checkout, and then in the mdk-stage1<br>
+&gt; subdirectory, do a &quot;make dist-svn&quot;.  This should produce the tar.xz in<br>
+&gt; the mdk-stage1 directory.<br>
+[...]<br>
+<br>
+&quot;make dist&quot; actually...<br>
+<br>
+it will target make &quot;dist-svn&quot; or &quot;make dist-git&quot; depending on if you&#39;re using<br>
+git-svn or not.<br>
+<br>
+be advised that dist-svn uses the BASE and any uncommitted change will not be<br>
+applied.<br>
+<br>
+dist-git however, you can commit without pushing them and that will be used.<br>
+<br></blockquote><div><br>I&#39;ve had a good play around with make dist.<br>It seems to me, like running make dist in the perl-install directory, (svn://<a href="http://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk/">svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk/</a> )<br>
+does not produce the same tar.xz file as found within drakx-installer-stage2 sources.<br>For example, the tar.gz produced by &quot;make dist&quot; does not contain the &quot;kernel&quot;, &quot;perl-install/install&quot; directories, etc.<br>
+Also, inside the tar, the first directory is: &quot;drakxtools-15.29&quot;, rather than &quot;drakx-installer-stage2-15.29&quot;.  It is also<br>only 2.4MB instead of about 4.3MB.<br><br>Any suggestions?<br><br>Regards<br>
+Glen<br></div></div>
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+Hi,<br><br>I&#39;ve been trying to test the installer change below before RC4, thinking that it might be quite helpful.<br><br>I am having a little bit of trouble however.  Could someone point me in the right direction on a couple<br>
+
+of things.<br><br>1. How does the src tar.xz file for drakx-installer-stage2 get created?   I assume it comes from a<br>build of svn://<a href="http://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk" target="_blank">svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk</a>, but can&#39;t find how it ends up as a tar.xz<br>
+
+<br>2. When I&#39;ve built a new stage2, any tricks on getting it into an ISO?<br><br>I tried building an ISO based on beta3, with the new stage2, using something like:<br>  mkisofs -o ~nelg/Mageia-3-beta3-x86_64-DVD/Mageia-3-beta3-x86_64-DVD-stage2.iso -b x86_64/isolinux/isolinux.bin -c boot.catalog  -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -iso-level 4 -J -R /tmp/tt/<br>
+
+<br>This is clearly not right.  Is the a documented method I should use to build a new ISO with a modified stage2? <br>In the docs I have read: <a href="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Drakx-installer_tips_and_tricks#rebuild_the_stage_2" target="_blank">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Drakx-installer_tips_and_tricks#rebuild_the_stage_2</a><br>
+
+and svn://<a href="http://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk/docs/README" target="_blank">svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk/docs/README</a>, I have not been able to find instructions on actually putting together an ISO.<br>
+<br>Is: <a href="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/How_to_remaster_a_personal_Mandriva-based_ISO" target="_blank">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/How_to_remaster_a_personal_Mandriva-based_ISO</a>  relevant for Mageia?  I guess not, as mkcd does not seem to exist in Mageia.<br>
+<br>So, a quick howto, or pointing me to the right documentation would be great :)<br><br>Regards<br>Glen Ogilvie<br><br>
+<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 22 March 2013 12:15, Thierry Vignaud <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:thierry.vignaud@gmail.com" target="_blank">thierry.vignaud@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+
+Hi<br>
+<br>
+Please let in drakxtools &amp; drakx-installer-stage2<br>
+<br>
+drakxtools:<br>
+========<br>
+- bootloader-config:<br>
+  o do not build initrd if no bootloader is detected and<br>
+    --no-initd argument is supplied<br>
+- diskdrake:<br>
+  o actually preserve UUID when formatting (mga#9428)<br>
+- drakauth:<br>
+  o install nss-pam-ldapd instead of nss_ldap (mga#9375)<br>
+<br>
+drakx-installer-stage2<br>
+================<br>
+- do not disable module autoloading (mga#9428)<br>
+- authentication:<br>
+  o install nss-pam-ldapd instead of nss_ldap (mga#9375)<br>
+- partitionning:<br>
+  o actually preserve UUID when formatting (mga#9428)<br>
+<br>
+thx<br>
+</blockquote></div><br>
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+Hi,<br><br>I&#39;ve been trying to test the installer change below before RC4, thinking that it might be quite helpful.<br><br>I am having a little bit of trouble however.  Could someone point me in the right direction on a couple<br>
+
+of things.<br><br>1. How does the src tar.xz file for drakx-installer-stage2 get created?   I assume it comes from a<br>build of svn://<a href="http://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk" target="_blank">svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk</a>, but can&#39;t find how it ends up as a tar.xz<br>
+
+<br>2. When I&#39;ve built a new stage2, any tricks on getting it into an ISO?<br><br>I tried building an ISO based on beta3, with the new stage2, using something like:<br>  mkisofs -o ~nelg/Mageia-3-beta3-x86_64-DVD/Mageia-3-beta3-x86_64-DVD-stage2.iso -b x86_64/isolinux/isolinux.bin -c boot.catalog  -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -iso-level 4 -J -R /tmp/tt/<br>
+
+<br>This is clearly not right.  Is the a documented method I should use to build a new ISO with a modified stage2? <br>In the docs I have read: <a href="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Drakx-installer_tips_and_tricks#rebuild_the_stage_2" target="_blank">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Drakx-installer_tips_and_tricks#rebuild_the_stage_2</a><br>
+
+and svn://<a href="http://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk/docs/README" target="_blank">svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk/docs/README</a>, I have not been able to find instructions on actually putting together an ISO.<br>
+<br>Is: <a href="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/How_to_remaster_a_personal_Mandriva-based_ISO" target="_blank">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/How_to_remaster_a_personal_Mandriva-based_ISO</a>  relevant for Mageia?  I guess not, as mkcd does not seem to exist in Mageia.<br>
+<br>So, a quick howto, or pointing me to the right documentation would be great :)<br><br>Regards<br>Glen Ogilvie<br><br>
+<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 22 March 2013 12:15, Thierry Vignaud <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:thierry.vignaud@gmail.com" target="_blank">thierry.vignaud@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+
+Hi<br>
+<br>
+Please let in drakxtools &amp; drakx-installer-stage2<br>
+<br>
+drakxtools:<br>
+========<br>
+- bootloader-config:<br>
+  o do not build initrd if no bootloader is detected and<br>
+    --no-initd argument is supplied<br>
+- diskdrake:<br>
+  o actually preserve UUID when formatting (mga#9428)<br>
+- drakauth:<br>
+  o install nss-pam-ldapd instead of nss_ldap (mga#9375)<br>
+<br>
+drakx-installer-stage2<br>
+================<br>
+- do not disable module autoloading (mga#9428)<br>
+- authentication:<br>
+  o install nss-pam-ldapd instead of nss_ldap (mga#9375)<br>
+- partitionning:<br>
+  o actually preserve UUID when formatting (mga#9428)<br>
+<br>
+thx<br>
+</blockquote></div><br>
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+<div class="gmail_quote">On 23 March 2013 07:37, Thierry Vignaud <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:thierry.vignaud@gmail.com" target="_blank">thierry.vignaud@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+On 22 March 2013 12:20, Glen Ogilvie &lt;<a href="mailto:nelg@linuxsolutions.co.nz">nelg@linuxsolutions.co.nz</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; I&#39;ve been trying to test the installer change below before RC4, thinking<br>
+&gt; that it might be quite helpful.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I am having a little bit of trouble however.  Could someone point me in the<br>
+&gt; right direction on a couple<br>
+&gt; of things.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; 1. How does the src tar.xz file for drakx-installer-stage2 get created?   I<br>
+&gt; assume it comes from a<br>
+&gt; build of svn://<a href="http://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk" target="_blank">svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk</a>, but can&#39;t find how it<br>
+&gt; ends up as a tar.xz<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; 2. When I&#39;ve built a new stage2, any tricks on getting it into an ISO?<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I tried building an ISO based on beta3, with the new stage2, using something<br>
+&gt; like:<br>
+&gt;   mkisofs -o<br>
+&gt; ~nelg/Mageia-3-beta3-x86_64-DVD/Mageia-3-beta3-x86_64-DVD-stage2.iso -b<br>
+&gt; x86_64/isolinux/isolinux.bin -c boot.catalog  -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size<br>
+&gt; 4 -iso-level 4 -J -R /tmp/tt/<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; This is clearly not right.  Is the a documented method I should use to build<br>
+&gt; a new ISO with a modified stage2?<br>
+&gt; In the docs I have read:<br>
+&gt; <a href="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Drakx-installer_tips_and_tricks#rebuild_the_stage_2" target="_blank">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Drakx-installer_tips_and_tricks#rebuild_the_stage_2</a><br>
+&gt; and svn://<a href="http://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk/docs/README" target="_blank">svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk/docs/README</a>, I have not been<br>
+&gt; able to find instructions on actually putting together an ISO.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Is:<br>
+&gt; <a href="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/How_to_remaster_a_personal_Mandriva-based_ISO" target="_blank">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/How_to_remaster_a_personal_Mandriva-based_ISO</a><br>
+&gt; relevant for Mageia?  I guess not, as mkcd does not seem to exist in Mageia.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; So, a quick howto, or pointing me to the right documentation would be great<br>
+&gt; :)<br>
+<br>
+stage2 != ISO<br>
+<br>
+ISO is basically the stage1.<br>
+stage1 is build by drakx-installer-images from:<br>
+- some packages listed as BR, mainly the kernel drivers &amp; firmwares<br>
+- drakx-installer-binaries that provide the actual stage1 binary<br>
+<br>
+=&gt; generates what is copied in isolinux/alt0 &amp; in install/images/<br>
+(*.img + *.iso)<br>
+<br>
+stage2 is build by drakx-installer-stage2<br>
+<br>
+=&gt; generates what is in install/stage2: mdkinst.sqfs (a squashfs image)<br>
+there&#39;s also rescue.sqfs there that is an alternate stage2 used when<br>
+using the rescue.<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+stage1 is basically a special initrd that loads the appropriate<br>
+modules according to detected<br>
+hardware and to what is specified on command line (eg: the DVD tells<br>
+it to directly load<br>
+stage2 from the DVD image).<br>
+if not instructed to do sg, it displays the text menu asking from<br>
+where to install (dvd, hard disk,<br>
+network: http/ftp/nfs).<br>
+It&#39;s a small statically linked program + init + a dhcp client +<br>
+rescue-gui for the rescue menu<br>
+<br>
+it then loads stage2 (install/stage2/mdkinst.sqf or rescue.sqfs) from the URL<br>
+<br>
+stage2 is real system, with dynamic libraries, that starts:<br>
+- an X11 server (if supported and if not asked for text mode)<br>
+- udev<br>
+and then go the install steps (language, license, partitionning,<br>
+installing, summary, updates, ...)<br>
+</blockquote></div><br>Hi Thierry,<br><br>I appreciate you taking time to reply and let me know these details. It confirms<br>my understanding.  What I would like to know is how to create / master the DVD<br>installer ISO, and make that  master contain a stage2 that I have built.<br>
+<br>I have been able to build a stage1 boot.iso, but what I would like is build a<br>DVD image, based on Mageia-3-beta3-x86_64-DVD.iso, with just a different<br> stage2, and maybe a rebuilt stage1 if needed.<br><br>I guess someone must know how Mageia-3-beta3-x86_64-DVD.iso, and the<br>
+other images get created.  I don&#39;t want to rebuild all the packages that go in<br>them, just assemble one with the same packages as<br>Mageia-3-beta3-x86_64-DVD.iso, and a updated install/stage2/mdkinst.sqf file.<br><br>
+Once this is figured out, I will happly update the Mageia wiki with details, which<br>I think will be helpful for anyone wanting to make customised Mageia DVDs.<br><br>Regards<br>Glen Ogilvie<br>
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+<div class="gmail_quote">On 23 March 2013 07:37, Thierry Vignaud <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:thierry.vignaud@gmail.com" target="_blank">thierry.vignaud@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+On 22 March 2013 12:20, Glen Ogilvie &lt;<a href="mailto:nelg@linuxsolutions.co.nz">nelg@linuxsolutions.co.nz</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; I&#39;ve been trying to test the installer change below before RC4, thinking<br>
+&gt; that it might be quite helpful.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I am having a little bit of trouble however.  Could someone point me in the<br>
+&gt; right direction on a couple<br>
+&gt; of things.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; 1. How does the src tar.xz file for drakx-installer-stage2 get created?   I<br>
+&gt; assume it comes from a<br>
+&gt; build of svn://<a href="http://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk" target="_blank">svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk</a>, but can&#39;t find how it<br>
+&gt; ends up as a tar.xz<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; 2. When I&#39;ve built a new stage2, any tricks on getting it into an ISO?<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I tried building an ISO based on beta3, with the new stage2, using something<br>
+&gt; like:<br>
+&gt;   mkisofs -o<br>
+&gt; ~nelg/Mageia-3-beta3-x86_64-DVD/Mageia-3-beta3-x86_64-DVD-stage2.iso -b<br>
+&gt; x86_64/isolinux/isolinux.bin -c boot.catalog  -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size<br>
+&gt; 4 -iso-level 4 -J -R /tmp/tt/<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; This is clearly not right.  Is the a documented method I should use to build<br>
+&gt; a new ISO with a modified stage2?<br>
+&gt; In the docs I have read:<br>
+&gt; <a href="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Drakx-installer_tips_and_tricks#rebuild_the_stage_2" target="_blank">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Drakx-installer_tips_and_tricks#rebuild_the_stage_2</a><br>
+&gt; and svn://<a href="http://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk/docs/README" target="_blank">svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk/docs/README</a>, I have not been<br>
+&gt; able to find instructions on actually putting together an ISO.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Is:<br>
+&gt; <a href="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/How_to_remaster_a_personal_Mandriva-based_ISO" target="_blank">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/How_to_remaster_a_personal_Mandriva-based_ISO</a><br>
+&gt; relevant for Mageia?  I guess not, as mkcd does not seem to exist in Mageia.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; So, a quick howto, or pointing me to the right documentation would be great<br>
+&gt; :)<br>
+<br>
+stage2 != ISO<br>
+<br>
+ISO is basically the stage1.<br>
+stage1 is build by drakx-installer-images from:<br>
+- some packages listed as BR, mainly the kernel drivers &amp; firmwares<br>
+- drakx-installer-binaries that provide the actual stage1 binary<br>
+<br>
+=&gt; generates what is copied in isolinux/alt0 &amp; in install/images/<br>
+(*.img + *.iso)<br>
+<br>
+stage2 is build by drakx-installer-stage2<br>
+<br>
+=&gt; generates what is in install/stage2: mdkinst.sqfs (a squashfs image)<br>
+there&#39;s also rescue.sqfs there that is an alternate stage2 used when<br>
+using the rescue.<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+stage1 is basically a special initrd that loads the appropriate<br>
+modules according to detected<br>
+hardware and to what is specified on command line (eg: the DVD tells<br>
+it to directly load<br>
+stage2 from the DVD image).<br>
+if not instructed to do sg, it displays the text menu asking from<br>
+where to install (dvd, hard disk,<br>
+network: http/ftp/nfs).<br>
+It&#39;s a small statically linked program + init + a dhcp client +<br>
+rescue-gui for the rescue menu<br>
+<br>
+it then loads stage2 (install/stage2/mdkinst.sqf or rescue.sqfs) from the URL<br>
+<br>
+stage2 is real system, with dynamic libraries, that starts:<br>
+- an X11 server (if supported and if not asked for text mode)<br>
+- udev<br>
+and then go the install steps (language, license, partitionning,<br>
+installing, summary, updates, ...)<br>
+</blockquote></div><br>Hi Thierry,<br><br>I appreciate you taking time to reply and let me know these details. It confirms<br>my understanding.  What I would like to know is how to create / master the DVD<br>installer ISO, and make that  master contain a stage2 that I have built.<br>
+<br>I have been able to build a stage1 boot.iso, but what I would like is build a<br>DVD image, based on Mageia-3-beta3-x86_64-DVD.iso, with just a different<br> stage2, and maybe a rebuilt stage1 if needed.<br><br>I guess someone must know how Mageia-3-beta3-x86_64-DVD.iso, and the<br>
+other images get created.  I don&#39;t want to rebuild all the packages that go in<br>them, just assemble one with the same packages as<br>Mageia-3-beta3-x86_64-DVD.iso, and a updated install/stage2/mdkinst.sqf file.<br><br>
+Once this is figured out, I will happly update the Mageia wiki with details, which<br>I think will be helpful for anyone wanting to make customised Mageia DVDs.<br><br>Regards<br>Glen Ogilvie<br>
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+Hi Colin,<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 23 March 2013 01:11, Colin Guthrie <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia@colin.guthr.ie" target="_blank">mageia@colin.guthr.ie</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+&#39;Twas brillig, and Glen Ogilvie at 22/03/13 11:20 did gyre and gimble:<br>
+&gt; 2. When I&#39;ve built a new stage2, any tricks on getting it into an ISO?<br>
+<br>
+I tend to have a urpmi-proxy setup and configure it to not check for<br>
+updated stage2 (which is the default IIRC). I then just build the stage2<br>
+image and copy it to the urpmi-proxy.<br>
+<br>
+Then with a simply boot.iso, I point the http install to my server with<br>
+urpmi-proxy installed and it download *my* stage2.<br>
+<br>
+That&#39;s how I generally test my modifications and seems quicker than<br>
+building ISOs etc.<br></blockquote><div><br>Thank you, that will work, and I will try that later on today. <br><br>I would still like to be able to build a complete iso (not just a boot.iso, but one that contains stage2, packages, etc).<br>
+I&#39;ve been able to build a stage1 boot.iso.<br><br>Glen<br></div></div>
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+Hi Colin,<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 23 March 2013 01:11, Colin Guthrie <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia@colin.guthr.ie" target="_blank">mageia@colin.guthr.ie</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+&#39;Twas brillig, and Glen Ogilvie at 22/03/13 11:20 did gyre and gimble:<br>
+&gt; 2. When I&#39;ve built a new stage2, any tricks on getting it into an ISO?<br>
+<br>
+I tend to have a urpmi-proxy setup and configure it to not check for<br>
+updated stage2 (which is the default IIRC). I then just build the stage2<br>
+image and copy it to the urpmi-proxy.<br>
+<br>
+Then with a simply boot.iso, I point the http install to my server with<br>
+urpmi-proxy installed and it download *my* stage2.<br>
+<br>
+That&#39;s how I generally test my modifications and seems quicker than<br>
+building ISOs etc.<br></blockquote><div><br>Thank you, that will work, and I will try that later on today. <br><br>I would still like to be able to build a complete iso (not just a boot.iso, but one that contains stage2, packages, etc).<br>
+I&#39;ve been able to build a stage1 boot.iso.<br><br>Glen<br></div></div>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 23 March 2013 11:57, Pascal Terjan <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:pterjan@gmail.com" target="_blank">pterjan@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<p dir="ltr"><br>
+On 22 Mar 2013 22:21, &quot;Glen Ogilvie&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:nelg@linuxsolutions.co.nz" target="_blank">nelg@linuxsolutions.co.nz</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; On 23 March 2013 05:12, AL13N &lt;<a href="mailto:alien@rmail.be" target="_blank">alien@rmail.be</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; Op vrijdag 22 maart 2013 07:38:56 schreef Frank Griffin:<br>
+&gt;&gt; &gt; On 03/22/2013 07:20 AM, Glen Ogilvie wrote:<br>
+&gt;&gt; [...]<br>
+&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; 1. How does the src tar.xz file for drakx-installer-stage2 get<br>
+&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; created?   I assume it comes from a<br>
+&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; build of svn://<a href="http://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk" target="_blank">svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk</a><br>
+&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &lt;<a href="http://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk" target="_blank">http://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk</a>&gt;, but can&#39;t find how it<br>
+&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; ends up as a tar.xz<br>
+&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; &gt; I&#39;m maybe about two days ahead of you on this, but here&#39;s what I think<br>
+&gt;&gt; &gt; happens, FWIW.  You do your checkout, and then in the mdk-stage1<br>
+&gt;&gt; &gt; subdirectory, do a &quot;make dist-svn&quot;.  This should produce the tar.xz in<br>
+&gt;&gt; &gt; the mdk-stage1 directory.<br>
+&gt;&gt; [...]<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; &quot;make dist&quot; actually...<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; it will target make &quot;dist-svn&quot; or &quot;make dist-git&quot; depending on if you&#39;re using<br>
+&gt;&gt; git-svn or not.<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; be advised that dist-svn uses the BASE and any uncommitted change will not be<br>
+&gt;&gt; applied.<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; dist-git however, you can commit without pushing them and that will be used.<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I&#39;ve had a good play around with make dist.<br>
+&gt; It seems to me, like running make dist in the perl-install directory, (svn://<a href="http://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk/" target="_blank">svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk/</a> )<br>
+&gt; does not produce the same tar.xz file as found within drakx-installer-stage2 sources.<br>
+&gt; For example, the tar.gz produced by &quot;make dist&quot; does not contain the &quot;kernel&quot;, &quot;perl-install/install&quot; directories, etc.<br>
+&gt; Also, inside the tar, the first directory is: &quot;drakxtools-15.29&quot;, rather than &quot;drakx-installer-stage2-15.29&quot;.  It is also<br>
+&gt; only 2.4MB instead of about 4.3MB.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Any suggestions?</p>
+<p dir="ltr">Yes, you need to go into install subdirectory (if I remember the name correctly)<br>
+</p>
+</blockquote></div>Ah, great.  Thank you.. That does the trick. :)<br><br>Would anyone mind if update <a href="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Drakx-installer_tips_and_tricks">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Drakx-installer_tips_and_tricks</a>, and then update the URL in the spec file of drakx-installer-stage2 to point to it, along with a comment on how to create the source tar.xz<br>
+Current URL in the spec is: <a href="http://wiki.mandriva.com/Tools/DrakX">http://wiki.mandriva.com/Tools/DrakX</a>  (which just goes to Mandriva&#39;s main wiki page)<br><br>Regards<br>Glen Ogilvie<br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 23 March 2013 11:57, Pascal Terjan <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:pterjan@gmail.com" target="_blank">pterjan@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<p dir="ltr"><br>
+On 22 Mar 2013 22:21, &quot;Glen Ogilvie&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:nelg@linuxsolutions.co.nz" target="_blank">nelg@linuxsolutions.co.nz</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; On 23 March 2013 05:12, AL13N &lt;<a href="mailto:alien@rmail.be" target="_blank">alien@rmail.be</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; Op vrijdag 22 maart 2013 07:38:56 schreef Frank Griffin:<br>
+&gt;&gt; &gt; On 03/22/2013 07:20 AM, Glen Ogilvie wrote:<br>
+&gt;&gt; [...]<br>
+&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; 1. How does the src tar.xz file for drakx-installer-stage2 get<br>
+&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; created?   I assume it comes from a<br>
+&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; build of svn://<a href="http://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk" target="_blank">svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk</a><br>
+&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &lt;<a href="http://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk" target="_blank">http://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk</a>&gt;, but can&#39;t find how it<br>
+&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; ends up as a tar.xz<br>
+&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; &gt; I&#39;m maybe about two days ahead of you on this, but here&#39;s what I think<br>
+&gt;&gt; &gt; happens, FWIW.  You do your checkout, and then in the mdk-stage1<br>
+&gt;&gt; &gt; subdirectory, do a &quot;make dist-svn&quot;.  This should produce the tar.xz in<br>
+&gt;&gt; &gt; the mdk-stage1 directory.<br>
+&gt;&gt; [...]<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; &quot;make dist&quot; actually...<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; it will target make &quot;dist-svn&quot; or &quot;make dist-git&quot; depending on if you&#39;re using<br>
+&gt;&gt; git-svn or not.<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; be advised that dist-svn uses the BASE and any uncommitted change will not be<br>
+&gt;&gt; applied.<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; dist-git however, you can commit without pushing them and that will be used.<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I&#39;ve had a good play around with make dist.<br>
+&gt; It seems to me, like running make dist in the perl-install directory, (svn://<a href="http://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk/" target="_blank">svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/drakx/trunk/</a> )<br>
+&gt; does not produce the same tar.xz file as found within drakx-installer-stage2 sources.<br>
+&gt; For example, the tar.gz produced by &quot;make dist&quot; does not contain the &quot;kernel&quot;, &quot;perl-install/install&quot; directories, etc.<br>
+&gt; Also, inside the tar, the first directory is: &quot;drakxtools-15.29&quot;, rather than &quot;drakx-installer-stage2-15.29&quot;.  It is also<br>
+&gt; only 2.4MB instead of about 4.3MB.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Any suggestions?</p>
+<p dir="ltr">Yes, you need to go into install subdirectory (if I remember the name correctly)<br>
+</p>
+</blockquote></div>Ah, great.  Thank you.. That does the trick. :)<br><br>Would anyone mind if update <a href="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Drakx-installer_tips_and_tricks">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Drakx-installer_tips_and_tricks</a>, and then update the URL in the spec file of drakx-installer-stage2 to point to it, along with a comment on how to create the source tar.xz<br>
+Current URL in the spec is: <a href="http://wiki.mandriva.com/Tools/DrakX">http://wiki.mandriva.com/Tools/DrakX</a>  (which just goes to Mandriva&#39;s main wiki page)<br><br>Regards<br>Glen Ogilvie<br>