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+<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Samuel Verschelde <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:stormi@laposte.net">stormi@laposte.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+Le dimanche 12 juin 2011 15:27:59, Samuel Verschelde a écrit :<br>
+<div><div></div><div class="h5">&gt; Hello to everyone,<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I&#39;m sure there&#39;s someone among you who wants to help Mageia but hasn&#39;t<br>
+&gt; found yet the good way to do it. Today is your lucky day, because there&#39;s<br>
+&gt; a job that&#39;s available and can be really useful and interesting:<br>
+&gt; coordinating the packagers mentoring program.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; You know that one key point of success for Mageia is in the ability to<br>
+&gt; welcome new packagers. The better we will be at it, the better the distro<br>
+&gt; will be. The packagers mentoring program has been created for that reason<br>
+&gt; and several packagers have been or are being mentored. But we have some<br>
+&gt; difficulty knowing who is being mentored by who and who hasn&#39;t found a<br>
+&gt; mentor. And we need also to find more mentors and more apprentices.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; During a packagers weekly meeting, misc invited us to read the following<br>
+&gt; article about mentoring programs in open-source projects:<br>
+&gt; <a href="http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2011/05/31/effective-mentoring-programs/" target="_blank">http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2011/05/31/effective-mentoring-programs/</a><br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I invite those who haven&#39;t read it yet, to read it. I&#39;ll quote one of the<br>
+&gt; mentoring best practices that were given: &quot;In bigger projects, keeping<br>
+&gt; track of who is a mentor, and who is mentoring who, and inviting new<br>
+&gt; mentors, and ensuring that no-one falls through the cracks when a mentor<br>
+&gt; gets too busy, is a job of itself.&quot;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I&#39;m looking for someone who could fill that &quot;job&quot;.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Description of the job:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; - keep track of:<br>
+&gt; -- who&#39;s being mentored by who, how well it&#39;s going<br>
+&gt; -- who needs a mentor and hasn&#39;t found one yet (this is one of the most<br>
+&gt; important parts: no volunteer must be forgotten, volunteers are too<br>
+&gt; precious !)<br>
+&gt; -- who can mentor more apprentices (and sometimes convince packagers to<br>
+&gt; become mentors or accept one more apprentice)<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; - be available for questions from apprentices or mentors, by mail, and if<br>
+&gt; possible, to be present on the IRC channel #mageia-mentoring on freenode<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; - help mentors with gathering &quot;junior tasks&quot; (bugzilla is a never empty<br>
+&gt; reserve that can be used for that. Maybe ask the bug triage team to help<br>
+&gt; identify such tasks. Maybe a &quot;junior task&quot; keyword in bugzilla would do the<br>
+&gt; trick)<br>
+&gt; -- small bugs to fix<br>
+&gt; -- new small packages to import in the distribution<br>
+&gt; -- backports<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; - promote mentoring (empower users into contributers. Working with the<br>
+&gt; marketing team would be great I think):<br>
+&gt; -- make the mentoring program known (MLs, forums, web, etc.)<br>
+&gt; -- look for new apprentices<br>
+&gt; -- look for new mentors<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Some useful skills:<br>
+&gt; - be autonomous (ie no need to check that you&#39;re doing the work)<br>
+&gt; - good written english (communication is very important in this job)<br>
+&gt; - knowledge about packaging is a plus but not mandatory (the key aspects<br>
+&gt; can be taught to you)<br>
+&gt; - being or having been a mentor, or having been mentored would be a plus,<br>
+&gt; but not mandatory<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; More information about the job:<br>
+&gt; - does not require a big amount of work, but real committment to the task<br>
+&gt; and regularity<br>
+&gt; - remember that you have a coordination role, not an authoritative role.<br>
+&gt; The difference in that is that you&#39;re not here to give orders but to<br>
+&gt; facilitate the mentoring program.<br>
+&gt; - you don&#39;t have to be alone to do this job if it&#39;s too much for one<br>
+&gt; person: you can find other helpful people wanting to help you if needed<br>
+&gt; and rely on the other teams (but finding them *is* part of your job ;) ).<br>
+&gt; -  this &quot;job offer&quot; concerns everything that revolves around the mentoring<br>
+&gt; of new packagers, but if it&#39;s successful maybe other teams can follow the<br>
+&gt; same approach (i18n, QA, etc... ).<br>
+&gt; -  depending on your level of confidence, experience and will, you could be<br>
+&gt; helped in your work. Maybe someone from the council can supervise and help<br>
+&gt; you at least at the beginning; or, if no one steps up, I can help you<br>
+&gt; bootstrap and organize your new &quot;job&quot;.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; So, who&#39;s in?<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Samuel Verschelde<br>
+<br>
+</div></div>Hello to all,<br>
+<br>
+First, thanks to those to offered to help.<br>
+<br>
+We had 3 candidates, plus one who offered help whoever will be in charge. 2<br>
+candidates were retained (Kharec has too many duties already to take the job),<br>
+who I interviewed on IRC to try to see who would fit best.<br>
+<br>
+The 2 candidates were good, which complicated my task because I had to make a<br>
+choice, but I finally came to a decision : I propose andre999 as a mentoring<br>
+program coordinator (or facilitator, if you think it fits the job better).<br>
+<br>
+What made me choose him over Daniel Kreuter (whose candidacy was good, I<br>
+repeat it) is the fact he already showed interest in this subject before the<br>
+&quot;job offer&quot;, has been mentored (even if the mentoring has not been completed<br>
+for now), and I already had enough occasions to exchange with him in the past<br>
+to think that he will have the required communication skills and diplomacy to<br>
+do the job.<br>
+<br>
+Now, it doesn&#39;t mean he has to be alone, so I hope than magnus will help him,<br>
+for example to bring an IRC presence at hours where André is not available due<br>
+to his timezone, and if Daniel is still interested in helping for those tasks,<br>
+I&#39;m sure André will be glad to receive his help.<br>
+<br>
+If you have any questions or remarks, don&#39;t hesitate to comment.<br>
+<br>
+To ennael and misc : do you want to take part in the boostrapping of André&#39;s<br>
+work ? I think it could be good to avoid any misunderstandings and be sure we<br>
+set the good direction.<br>
+<br>
+Best regards<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+Samuel Verschelde<br>
+</font></blockquote></div><br>Congratulation andre999 for the job. If you need my help feel free to ask me.<br><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Mit freundlichen Grüßen<br><br>Greetings<br><br>Daniel Kreuter<br><br><br><br>
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