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+2010/11/9 Oliver Burger <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:oliver.bgr@googlemail.com">oliver.bgr@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+&quot;Erin Wilkins&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:erin@sea-dragon.net">erin@sea-dragon.net</a>&gt; schrieb am 2010-11-09<br>
+<div><div></div><div class="h5">&gt; Maarten Vanraes &lt;<a href="mailto:maarten.vanraes@gmail.com">maarten.vanraes@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; &gt; the i686 _IS_ the default one for x86 cpus<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; In the standard installer. But I believe ONE uses 586 to be able to run on<br>
+&gt; as wide a range of hardware as possible.<br>
+</div></div>Exactly! The problem is: the One shell run on all possible machines, so it<br>
+uses the i586 kernel. And there just is not enough space on a CD image to put<br>
+another kernel on it.<br>
+When you&#39;re installing from a Free you get the best kernel for your system.<br>
+With a 32bit system using less then approximately 4GB RAM you&#39;ll get the<br>
+Desktop (i686) kernel, when using more you&#39;ll get the Server kernel.<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+Oliver<br>
+</font></blockquote></div><br>Thats may be correct, I dont know I never used the &quot;free&quot; one. The problem is that people with light DSL ( like I do ) cant get the &quot;Free&quot; version of Mandriva ( Mageia ) and the only option is to DL the One Iso. Thats also what I think of. Most people get the One Iso because it is:<br>
+<br>1. A smart Iso, fits on a CD.<br>2. Has all componens Out of the Box ( driver and stuff like that )<br>3. Only ~700MB to download and not 2-3GB ;)<br><br>Thus our main &quot;consumer&quot; are going to DL the One iso. So we have to focus on that. And when there is a Kernel which is going to slow down my System I am not going to use it anymore. I mean what are the main diffrents of them? Only a few configs right? Maybe we do it dynamic and he is autodetecting the System and config the Kernel that way. Is that possible or is then a new building of the Kernel needed? Maybe thats the sulution. I mean where are going to discuss here and it would realy be an improvment, when we allow People to use a modern and fast kernel and not a kernel which is going to slow the system ( well only a bit ) just because there are some people who are proud the use a Pentium II CPU just to be cool. You can get a 64-bit CPU computer for less then 200€. Thats not the problem in my eyes.<br>
+Sure it is correct, that they should use 64-Bit Mandriva. But not everyone is doing it. We talk about general configurations and not about a short group of people. Maybe we should think that way.<br><br>I hope you guys understand what I mean ;)<br>
+<br>Greetings<br><br>Egon<br>
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+2010/11/9 Oliver Burger <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:oliver.bgr@googlemail.com">oliver.bgr@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+&quot;Erin Wilkins&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:erin@sea-dragon.net">erin@sea-dragon.net</a>&gt; schrieb am 2010-11-09<br>
+<div><div></div><div class="h5">&gt; Maarten Vanraes &lt;<a href="mailto:maarten.vanraes@gmail.com">maarten.vanraes@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; &gt; the i686 _IS_ the default one for x86 cpus<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; In the standard installer. But I believe ONE uses 586 to be able to run on<br>
+&gt; as wide a range of hardware as possible.<br>
+</div></div>Exactly! The problem is: the One shell run on all possible machines, so it<br>
+uses the i586 kernel. And there just is not enough space on a CD image to put<br>
+another kernel on it.<br>
+When you&#39;re installing from a Free you get the best kernel for your system.<br>
+With a 32bit system using less then approximately 4GB RAM you&#39;ll get the<br>
+Desktop (i686) kernel, when using more you&#39;ll get the Server kernel.<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+Oliver<br>
+</font></blockquote></div><br>Thats may be correct, I dont know I never used the &quot;free&quot; one. The problem is that people with light DSL ( like I do ) cant get the &quot;Free&quot; version of Mandriva ( Mageia ) and the only option is to DL the One Iso. Thats also what I think of. Most people get the One Iso because it is:<br>
+<br>1. A smart Iso, fits on a CD.<br>2. Has all componens Out of the Box ( driver and stuff like that )<br>3. Only ~700MB to download and not 2-3GB ;)<br><br>Thus our main &quot;consumer&quot; are going to DL the One iso. So we have to focus on that. And when there is a Kernel which is going to slow down my System I am not going to use it anymore. I mean what are the main diffrents of them? Only a few configs right? Maybe we do it dynamic and he is autodetecting the System and config the Kernel that way. Is that possible or is then a new building of the Kernel needed? Maybe thats the sulution. I mean where are going to discuss here and it would realy be an improvment, when we allow People to use a modern and fast kernel and not a kernel which is going to slow the system ( well only a bit ) just because there are some people who are proud the use a Pentium II CPU just to be cool. You can get a 64-bit CPU computer for less then 200€. Thats not the problem in my eyes.<br>
+Sure it is correct, that they should use 64-Bit Mandriva. But not everyone is doing it. We talk about general configurations and not about a short group of people. Maybe we should think that way.<br><br>I hope you guys understand what I mean ;)<br>
+<br>Greetings<br><br>Egon<br>